/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>53974964
Hey

I NEED HOPIUM NOW

>>53974964
are we going lower so i can throw more chump change into this or nah?

>>53974964


The daily reminder that POOlyjeet is a curry scam coin with bots and paid shills, also paid fake and gay useless "partnerships"

sell while you still can

Instead, buy LUNC

everybody hates jeets and smelly jeet scams

>>53974964
>>53975128


https://vocaroo.com/1eeMGweiI5jm
https://vocaroo.com/1eeMGweiI5jm
https://vocaroo.com/1eeMGweiI5jm

same was the case with the Queen

>>53975070
just as long as bitcoin keeps shitting the bed..otherwise, pump to 0.00150 again , at least..

>>53975137
God save the based queen

I don't have any coins staked. I'm terrified of the price pulling an act of God and somehow doing a 10000x overnight, and me not being able to sell. I already have sell orders set up all the way to $1 in case this happens.

The last thread archived with only 200 posts. It’s unironically, supersonically, hypnotically, funky freshiously over. I knew it would be over the day I was born. FUCK!

Hello Lunchads, I havent been keeping up with the recent events. I know there was a prophecy of Cz and the hot wallet on his hip. Does anyone know if this is still true and can provide some insight?
Also dubs and we baboona before joona

>>53975477
Checked and based

>>53975802
>>53975842
Don't lose faith
is already written as a prophecy in Lunchad's holy book. Wagmi

as long as CZ still burns MONEY from his OWN POCKETS in a "dead" coin and hold his gigastack wallet... there's hope

>>53975842
The latest news is people are trying to kick Zaradar off the team for lack of professionalism. lunc is a circus at the moment, if you're determined to hold best just stake it all and leave crypto for awhile, this shit is going to drag out.

>Alex Foreskin behind the Zaradar removal prop
Who the FUCK are we supposed to even side with anymore?

>>53976554
Noone, lunc is a shitshow at the moment

hodl fast luncsisters

>>53976554
it's simple, you side with your frens!

>>53976554
Just whoever is truly for the project at any given moment as it seems a month after someone gets a following to restore lunc they jerk off their egos too hard and get rejected by the community shortly afterwards. We need more accountability and not just dick sucking whatever mediocre developer is currently in the spotlight.

>>53977330
This

Death to terra rebels and death to niggers and kikes. I will not sell because I am a big gay FAGGOT heheheheohogogohshs

All you had to do was to listen.

so how do we meme this back to $100

have we started the shake out, brother?

>>53977388
Checked
I really need lunc to moon, I'm literally fucking 100% demoralized by everything rn. Why are people so awful? I just want to be happy and feel free. Can someone please just fix lunc or even just say they will.

just let it go

>>53978061
You're a big guy

I fucking hate Shibu Inu. I wanted to buy OpenBetAI, but the gas fees were too high, so I had no other choice but to buy shiba inu. As soon as I clicked buy I was DMed by a jeet and the entire chat was jam packed with 3rd worlders. I locked my metamask wallet and tried to get them to stop spamming 'ser' , only to listen to them rant about generational wealth and the village. The main jeet mindlessly yapped about microtransactions and staking. Not at anyone in particular, but purely as a learned npc jeet habit. I got ready to log off in disgust, when another jeet DMs me and he says, 'don't call us racist hate terms like jeet or you will get banned from the shiba inu chat'. The fucking audacity of this jeet. I am a white man and this cunt with the net worth of four costco hotdogs tells me to watch my language? So I blocked him and googled for five minutes to find a high def version of goatse. I start spamming the goatse image in the shibu inu chat with my ten alts using a python script i wrote with chat gpt in five minutes because my IQ is higher than room temperature; and the jeets start reeeeeeing. I finally logged off. Never again am I buying that gay dog coin that the jeets love.................https://openbetai.io

*BUMP*
Don't worry guys, I got you

>>53975030
>I'm a nigger that put an inappropriate amount of money into this gookcoin and now I'm desperate for fake news like a third world minority would be.
You're not cut out for this son.

I have been trying to find out what the actual progress that the L1 taskforce has made. This article claims that they are ahead of schedule and planning to add more goals. This is very different from what is claimed on /biz. How can we verify one or the other?

Article from Feb 20th:
https://cryptolifedigital.com/2023/02/20/joint-layer-1-task-force-to-launch-terra-classic-v1-1-0-upgrade/

Does there need to be any conflict between Nova and the L1 team? Aren't L1 focusing on the actual chain development whereas any swap and burn mechanism would be layer 2?

Also what is the mars protocol that the Nova guy was talking about?

>>53978836
Here we are 20 years later, in the year 2043, and pajeets are still convinced Do Kwon is still a part of LUNC even after his confirmed death to the New Neo Aryan robotic death squads. Find something new.

BINANCE DELISTING LUNA AND LUNC. EXIT NOW.

>>53979258
Sweet the great shakening might finally begin. 2023 into 2024 is gonna be our year bros, sitting on 10milly and it's either 0 or multimillionaire status for me

>>53978966
I think someone mentioned in the last thread that the L1 does weekly AMAs, but they’re highly moderated/controlled. I haven’t been following any of them but I suppose that would be the place to ask questions as long as they aren’t deemed “fud”. Maybe the frens/ nova can give us a qrd on everything that’s happened in Q1.

>>53979286
> it's either 0 or multimillionaire status for me
May holder here. I have more than beer money invested in this (bought in around 00010), so I’m still in the green. Having said that, I’ve got other coins that are doing surprisingly well, so I’m not as worried about holding this to absolute 0 if needed. I’m just not confident that the current team is going to get us anywhere, so, outside of schizo theories, how lunc will legitimately succeed is anyone’s guess.

Glad to see pholuna taken off the list and that poor scumbag ll69 put on it

He only got 48000 lunc
Is he homeless

>>53979407
I'm currently not invested in anything else because I'm waiting to see what the US government has planned, so pulled out of everything else but lunc was a cheapo ticket relative to everything else I owned so gonna let it ride. Not sure as well what the fuck is going oncwith the dev teams but I won't worry until I hear about CZ dumping his sack.

Feels like i keep seeing connections between NOVA and Alex Foreshaw. That being said, how are we sure NOVA isn't actually a subversive faction?

>>53980223
We're not. They are sus af. If they actually wanted to help, they would've tried to do some PRs on the GitHub to build their reputation before seeking to replace them. Instead, they're just trying to remove the L1 team with no one to replace them.

>>53979142
>be me
>LUNC Investor
>Year 2043
>LUNC still eternally crabbing for 20 years straight
>L1 Devs making $150,000 a month
>Binance stopped burns 15 years ago
>Burn tax stopped 20 years ago
>L1 Devs keep minting
>Still no repeg
>Still no swaps
>Still no dapps
>Hopium running low

>>53974964

>>53979496
The moment you hear about cz dumping his bags, it will be already far too late to do anything about it. I hope it won't happen of course.

>>53980463
Explain to a retard pls

>>53980398
What does the L1 team actually do? The last update had to be fixed by TFL to keep the chain running. The only way to get any information about them is their “community representatives” who are a bunch of grifting YouTubers that they pay out of the community pool.

>>53981678
This is an official representative of the L1TF and TGF approved by Ed Kim and Zaradar as who they want to represent them.

>>53981761
This community representative is currently in an AMA if you want to ask a few questions about the L1TF

>>53981761
See >>53975802

>>53980463
Explain to another retard. Pls
>>53974964
It's over. I'm selling at 000139. I'm down $300
And throwing my $12k stack at something else...
When the great shackeout or any real burn/non mexican repeg plan made by a white man or asian happens.. i'll buy back

I sold. This is a DIRTY, ROTTEN, STINKY, SHITTY, CUM-DRENCHED, MOTHERFUCKING SHITCOOOOOIIIIIINNNN

Retards

>>53978245
For me

Everything's down
Absolute spastics for selling

>>53981427
>>53982040
if you shake it more than 3 times you're playing with it

>>53980463
>>53981427
>>53982040
the brainiac is basically calling you baggies with that picture

>>53980478
Why should cz selling?

>>53975477
kek

>>53984136
It was an hypothesis. He wouldn't simply sell his 2 trillions, he'd find a way to make an exit pump first.

>>53984513
He wouldnt sell his 2 trillions because most of that 2 trillon are user coins

So any hopium news? Come this or next month?

>>53985081
Also what's causing the price to drop? Paper hands?

Runchas..... We fall...

>>53975802
According to the faggots it's over for the millionths time and the now gloating smug midwit haters will be back crying a river about how they thought it was over this time for real and missed out on a fortune in a not too far future.

>>53985121
This is the beginning of the Great Shakeout. It's written.

>>53979258
>Your deposit address under LUN A will be retarded on 2023-04-07 10:45:29 UTC
what did she mean by this bls halp im midwit

>>53979258
Dose this mean CZ has found the best way to burn his trillions of LUNC?

>>53979434
>He only got 48000 lunc
He's got close to 300 million LUNC.

>>53985615
>what did she mean by this bls halp im midwit
Binance is changing the LUNC wallet addresses for their users. There's no delisting, anons are just fucking with you. You'll get a new address for your LUNC wallet. Binance only published a reminder because a lot of people have a whitelist of addresses they regularly send to/from, so Binance wants to make sure everyone starts using the updated ones. Most people are retarded so there's a chance they'd still keep using the old addresses, and would lose their coins. That's all this is - a public service announcement.

>>53986006
Thanks based anon.
>fudds can rope.

>>53985329
I’m a tranny and I can confirm that it’s fucking over. Anything else is straight cope

so fucking mad i still have 8 days left
to unstake
this shit will be 00005 by then

why did it have to end like this. fuck it. not selling. guess I have to wait til 2028 for do kang to get jailed and this shit to pump

>>53986709
>why did it have to end like this.
Back to the grind

it's almost low enough that i'll slurp up more
tax season and all that

>>53986769
jesus that's not even real pizza it's the microwaved frozen shit

I'm a barb1e girl in a barb1e world
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Hhhhhjh

>>53983853
I'm not selling I'm shorting.

>>53986573
>staking
>after Kucoin restaked and fucked over everyone's rewards by draining the community pool even faster
>after the SEC seeks to ban staking
>after "le 5% minimum" jew proposal passed.
The writing was on the wall months ago. If you didn't have a massive sell limit at 0.00015 to save your money in case a crash happened, you fucked up.

Wtf wtf is happening with the price?
I'm already down by $800
When moon sers?

Fucking shitcoin , only crabs and dumbs and almost never pumps..

What the fuck are these shitty devs doing?
Any real progress at least?

Q2 is close and i bet these fags will ask for more money or hold development hostage..
It's over

>>53988343
Dumps*
Captcha A AARFK

>>53988343
With how things are going, it's entirely reasonable to say it'll go back to 0.00005. dead shitcoin.

>>53988396
If it does, I'll 10x my stack

>>53988396
I say thanks to OP for creating these threads. I'll keep coming for daily news or happenigs, but i feel the copium and need to ropium now..i'm selling and i'm buying later..

My main concern are the slow work from the devs.
Nobody cares about what i'm saying but yeah, it's my rant

>>53988638
Fuck my nigger phone keyboard and fat fingers
Happenings*

>>53988622
Same, i'll buy 100mil if that happens.. but now i'm getting my lunc money back in something else

>>53988638
>>53988666
happenigs is a perfectly fine description for this at this point.

>sell low, buy high
Lunc dumped to around .00012 a couple months ago before shooting back up. for anyone thinking about selling now and buying back later, think a little harder.

>>53989179
I sold from 30mil to 10mil
If something happens great.
If not, I'm gonna look for something that'll actually move.

>>53989179
i have 20 mill lunc. as soon as it undelegates (10 more days) im dumping this shitstack for DBI. fuck lunc.

>>53989895

Tell us more about the greasy shit coin you’ve been shilling here for the past fortnight

>>53989910
GREASEY IS RIGHT. it's a trailer trash coin secretly backed by the top exchanges (except coinbase). and that's why i love it. lunc terra rebels are cuck faggots.

>>53974964
>>53975128
>>53975137
very based on LUNC making us quadrillionaires
we wuz CZ's favorite chosen folx after all

>>53989970
>yfw the price crashes to .0000000000001, CZ buys up the whole extra supply for a few cents, sends it the burn wallet and repegs what's left to USTC

>>53989964

By your own logic, isn’t LUNC also being backed/supported by the biggest crypto exchange (Binance)?

Yet you still choose to shill your coin here instead of your own general?

A Greasy Greg just as I suspected

>>53988622
>>53988666
See, these posts right here are exactly why this whole "great shakeout" theory that some anons keep pushing in order to increase ownership of the supply by certain "insiders" is just retarded
If some orchestrated bad news happens to LUNC then yeah, of course some people are going to lose faith, sell and sink the price. But there will always be other people waiting to buy even more cheap
At this point, I believe most of the people who are in LUNC now are staying in even if another major crash happens, so it doesn't make sense to orchestrate another shakeout and to further fud the token
They need to just find a way to quickly burn the supply, starting from the way things are right now. That needs to be the top priority
There HAS to be a fucking way to get LUNC holders to altogether voluntarily burn trillions of the supply from their own stacks, while making it profitable for them to do so
All of the big-brains involved in LUNC right now, yet NOBODY can think of anything? Even all the big brains that claim to frequent this very board?
I refuse to believe it's impossible, there has to be a solution that's right there in front of us but it's just hard to see and may be difficult-but-possible to implement

>>53990112
dumb nigger i give you golden gems to invest in and you respond like that? suck my dick

>>53990152
You got btfo, just own it

>>53989895
>im dumping this shitstack for DBI.
>after 8 days
anon. DBI will make a new ATH and Lunc will be at another monthly low. Take out a loan of $2000-3000 for DBI before you get priced out of a suicide stack. Or miss a possible x2 if BTC recovers.

>>53990116
It needs to be a core feature in the terra station app to burn a percentage or convert a different token to Lunc then burn. Binance US needs to list it, and coinbase needs to list it with a burn tax or burn feature. And in my opinion, most importantly, they should remove the burn cap so the supply can go as low as it wants. As soon as the world sees the burn rate increasing exponentially we are off to the moon and the burn rate goes nuclear. Seriously this coin is a nuke about to go off and everyone is on standby waiting for it to happen

>>53989895
I sold some of my lunc for DBI early on, but I ended up deciding not to sell it all. If you can afford to hold a few mil and just keep it parked on a cex, that's what I would do desu. There's always that chance something happens

>>53989910
>2,000,000,000 total supply
>down to 1.4b after the burns
>more burns to be announced (ie. deflationary)
>new aths
>collabs / interactions with CZ, Jesse Powell, altcoinsdaily, Winklevoss, to name a few. More on the way
>Twitter followers increasing by the thousands daily
>NFT release in a few weeks
Those are just come things that come to mind. I shilled this here at 005 and you retards shot it down, although some were smart enough to listen. Early buyers have slow liquidated their stack, some exiting completely. Wallet counts increasing, sell off being less impactful. It's not too late to make money on this

>b-but CZ backs lunc
I have a bag of lunc too, but give me a fucking break. Without a legit burn mechanism in place, lunc won't be doing shit

>>53989895
I sold some of my lunc for DBI early on, but I ended up deciding not to sell it all. If you can afford to hold a few mil and just keep it parked on a cex, that's what I would do desu. There's always that chance something happens

>>53989910
>2,000,000,000 total supply
>down to 1.4b after the burns
>more burns to be announced (ie. deflationary)
>new aths
>collabs / interactions with CZ, Jesse Powell, altcoinsdaily, Winklevoss, to name a few. More on the way
>Twitter followers increasing by the thousands daily
>NFT release in a few weeks
Those are just some things that come to mind. I shilled this here at 005 and you retards shot it down, although some were smart enough to listen. Early buyers have slowly liquidated their stack, some exiting completely. Wallet counts increasing, sell offs being less impactful. It's not too late to make money on this

>b-but CZ backs lunc
I have a bag of lunc too, but give me a fucking break. Without a legit burn mechanism in place, lunc won't be doing shit

All alts are dying. Won't survive this recession.
Lunc was a gamble and looks like selling that x5 in september would have been the right move. The rest of us...well, our fault for having some faith left.
it has been a good ride. Full of memes, pajeets, battles. It has been fun. This time didnt work but I wish you all luck for the next bullrun (if any).
Be happy anons. Good luck

>>53986769
>tfw bought lunc
expected to be drinking champagne in monaco
instead get a pizza while working in a tesco
not even a real pizza
a microwaved instant pizza
thanks biz.

>>53993180
>All alts are dying
Imagine not reading the posts directly above yours

ded

>>53990116
desu the how is not really the problem. its the who would implement it, maintain it and upgrade it. on top of that you also need to make sure its not shut down by bad actors or otherwise altered and take into account the vote system which takes ages, validators doing validator things, terralabs interfering, individuals doing weird shit like alex and zaradar etc.
this shit is just dead unless someone takes it into their own hands and just implements the swaps or whatever without caring what others say, with no voting and no begging for money.

Can someone explain to me like I'm a retard (which I am) what the fuck happened to the whole Q1 2023 SWAPS LIVE idea?

>>53993180
dude chill. Lunc will rise, just hold for 7-8 years for a cool 8% gainz

>>53993588
Zaradar happened, he is idolized by the jeets and faggots. It's truly over until the supreme chink gets tired of this bald furry
>>53993703
Get the meme right you retarded nigger. You have to hold lunc for years to get sweet x2-x5

>>53993801
>putting the "x" before the number
Also mine wasn't a meme.. let that sink in

>>53974964
GOOD MORNING BAGGIES!

>got an email telling me my luna deposit address is going to expire and i need to generate a new one
>doesnt tell me how to generate a new one
>the stupid button in the email saying press here to generate a new one doesnt actually generate a new one
did i just got phish and about to lose all my luna ????
i actually clicked on the link and log in my acc with it

>>53993913
see this:
>>53986006

>>53993913
rip

>>53992894
New ath btw

Apparently binance is going to use USTC. Please explain to a retard such as I how that benefits LUNC?

>>53995209
Don't recall any news like this? Care to share a link/source?

>>53995209
Salsa or didn't happen.

You mean you believed the larp about "Binance using USTC ,the SEC and lunc executives"?

that's fake and gay, anon

>>53995227
>>53995255
https://fxcryptonews.com/binance-announces-trading-pair-for-terraclassicusd-ustc-usdt/?fbclid=IwAR04uFmjygF9g0g-Kx4uZO9EZV9T3gnpFqqBIijxib0sOF2O9W_dl6PSrkg

>>53995298
nope, definitely nothing to see here. sell all of your classics of luna and buy other coin better ser

>>53995298
So does this mean more pressure to get swaps going? I’d think so

>>53995419
Lol people really gave up so easily, didn't they? All they had to do was hold. Not dca, not swing. Just hold. Oh well.

You just couldn't hold, could you? You sold lunc and now look at you. I hope DBI pump was worth it.
https://fxcryptonews.com/binance-announces-trading-pair-for-terraclassicusd-ustc-usdt/?fbclid=IwAR04uFmjygF9g0g-Kx4uZO9EZV9T3gnpFqqBIijxib0sOF2O9W_dl6PSrkg

>>53996060
>>53995298
I'm retarded, what does this imply for LUNC?

>>53996109
Utility. Swap and additional burn mechanism will eat up tons of lunc.

>>53996109
right now literally nothing because lunc is still a dumpster on fire and nobody has implemented the fabled swaps

>>53996176
But ustc utilization was a big part of that. Swap didn't do any good because it was just sitting there. Now that's there will be real utility, a swap will burn a fuck load of lunc, especially if it's a replacement for busd. But yeah, if this goes through and gets utilized, we will NEED to have swaps enabled. Otherwise this is just good for ustc and literally nothing for lunc.

>>53995419
>>53995298
It's literally just a trading pair like ustc/busd you imbeciles.

>>53996176
It means insider was no larp. This is the most bussin news since the burn as give insight into cz’s bag and interest.

>>53996163
Why hasn't the price moved up at all then?

>>53996352
Look at the date of the announcement. Also, it's more bullish for ustc now then lunc. All depends on swap.

Lets look at the facts:

>binance specifically requested governance proposals
>binance is in direct contact with TGF & L1 team
>binance has resumed burns
>binance has specifically stated Lunc devs can apply for funding
>binance has added ust/ustd pairs
>binance has increase lunc/ust apr
>cz has stated dk had the right idea but did it in the wrong way

Lunc/ust are the chosen tokens for the east v west crypto war, CZ will happily shake you out while leading the faithful to the promised land

>>53997027
So, CZ bring us to 1$?

>>53997039
Always has been.

>>53997027
Binance is really taking their time. Hopefully CZ is nearly done with whatever he wanted to do, this long dump/crab cycle has been fucking terrible.

>>53997978
its gonna get a lot worse and take a lot longer. buckle in or bail out. the princely reward of a 2-3x is only for the determined!

>>53997978
no one said it would be easy fren, ed was brought in during his sabbatical to bring the chain up to speed, once that's done we off

if dan the man reads this, fuck vybs

>>53998146
Yeah I hope it kicks off this year. I really need some fucking money.

With everything going on in my life rn these new developments have given me true hope. Are we all still gonna meet up? Was it in Italy or what city did we decide on?

>>53998264
Monaco fren.

>>53998248
>I hope it kicks off this year
Imo the next six months are pivotal. Also some of us believe that Zaradar and L1 task force are gonna rage quit so keeps some funds on exchanges for that gigadip.

>>53997978
Due to many countries (and definitely the US) having a much smaller capital gains tax rate if an asset is held longer term, I wouldn't expect anything crazy until at least a year after the crash plus cheapy accumulation buffer

>>53999116
My thoughts exactly. Now, think esotericly, 4/20/23 is solar eclipse. Witch says 3/20 is the start of some planetary goodness.

>>53998614
Thanks fren, btw nice kek id

Well, that was fun

Have you niggers considered a new project made by /biz for /biz?

>tibetancybersheckels
Just dropped a couple days ago. Responsive dev, decent market cap for its age/number of holders. Join the fun, and make some money in the process
$ooooo

>>53998264
How's that hopium going now fren? KEK

>>54001277
I recall a pretty much identical post from a few months ago about PEPL.

>>54001277
invested $20 dollars for "le lulz" and i'm already down %50 since yesterday

>>53974964
I haven’t checked in months, was wondering why this coin is shitting the bed. So the discord faggots won? Because there was a lot of hype in reviving this coin, the burn, etc. Seems like as usual the faggotry of the few outweighed the wants of the many. Still holding this shitcoin but I could use some good news

>>54001581
Never heard of it. What's the ticker?

Ded thread, ded coin
It's so fucking over...

>>54001863
Thanks for the bump retard

>>54001728
Have you looked again recently? It's up a bit.

This has all been a moon or zero play for me.
Neve selling this until it hits moon status.
Later shills.

>>53997027 >>53997978
If Binance hired his own dev team and had them working with Zaradar or Nova, then it'd be the most bullish thing yet.

>>54001881
Anytime, m'lady.

>>53993286
Honestly i bought LUNC right after the crash. A month later found out i would be losing my job. Got delusional and was thinking LUNC might actually be saved and moon just in time for me to be laid off. Now i work at fucking Hobby Lobby barely making ends meet..... but at least i still have my 12 mil LUNC

>>54002078
It's okay, at least your great great great grandchildren will all be billionaires.

>*ahem*
HOW TO FIX LUNC SUPPLY

NFT burn protocol on contract with lunc supply purchases. Discount lunc value at a %over current market. 1 nft= 1.2 million lunc approx. Equivalent value burned at snapshots. Snapshot nft holders for support and burn. More nfts, more burn. More burn=less supply=more value per lunc. NFTs can be traded, again at +20% current market value of lunc at all times.

>>54002147
NOTE: value can be higher if shakeout acceleration is deemed important for those wanting out of the boat, and likewise wanting the exit pump effect to be significant.

>>54001973
>working with Zaradar
Lunc wont survive as long as zaradar is in the picture

>>54002078
>hobby lobby
Sounds boring. How many customers do you get a day?

>>54002324
Yeah yeah. Make amends and work together already. One of us in Nova has to infiltrate into the L1 team and change it from the inside.

>>54002396
Wasn’t Jacob supposed to be that guy? That didn’t work very well

>>54002529
Jacob sperged out and ruined the plan. Send someone slightly less autistic and with thicker skin.

>>54002396
Nova has been acting shady lately. Most of the posts on the discord are about some other chain called Mars. I get that they want to validate on multiple chains but their emphasis seems to be moving away from LUNC.

>>54002365
Honestly thats why i chose hobby lobby. Mostly work with decently cute roasties and not a ton of customers, and most that come in know exactly what they want and where it is so i dont have to help them. Also this might sound faggy, but i always kind of found Hobby Lobby somewhat relaxing.

>>54001973
This is the sort of shit that sometimes makes me doubt exactly how much CZ/binance is truly involed/cares what happens to the chain.

>>54002626
Nova has always been shady. Ill remind you of their connections to one Mr.Alex Foreskin

>>54002626
Nova got on here to explain that last week or something. Mars is a loan protocol. They have a plan to integrate it with LUNC to giga burn LUNC or something. You Zaracuck retards and your soft FUD can go fuck yourselves.

>>54002626 >>54002686
>Nova has been acting shady lately.
sigh. I'm gonna sit this one out. Telling obvious lies in a general with the same posters every week. Who are you fooling?

>>54002686
haha foreskin lol i get it

>>54002794
Dude, there is no "Zaradar" team against Nova like they're trying to meme. He's aware of it too from his PMs. What we're all waiting for is a proposal on Agora and then have this majority voted Yes so it can get moved on with a little magic of CZ Binance supporting us.

This whole east vs west war within Lunc is gay af. My only enemy is the fucking birds and Terra Rebels.

>>54002619
Does nova even have devs capable of working on the chain? If so, I’d imagine it would have to go through voting and all that other bullshit to get them on the L1 team, right?

>>54002922
> it would have to go through voting and all that other bullshit to get them on the L1 team
Not really. They do that to "look" professional. But really, they need all the devs and free work they can get. lol
Just message them with your idea and concept. They won't say no. They're desperate.

>>53984136
it's no wonder they are selling, everything is falling apart, I'm waiting for my vinu nfts not to get screwed, we just need to survive another wave of more bears

>>53975030
C.Z. will instarape all LUN1 holders when the time is right. LUN3 going to become the Bogs' official money laundering machine. We win.

>>54002803
Yeah i saw the posts. A bunch of words and no real substance that of course ended with "we have a plan just give us two more weeks". Typical NOVA bullshit

still holding
no hope

So based knowing frens, how do we cope with being rich?

>>54005246
Shiposting. I made that Pepe.

>>53998219
Fuck vybs brodem

>>54002995
They wont say no to..........listening to your idea? Oh wow ah gheeze retards 4 sure! I talk with the team being put together currently for the whitepaper that's going to be introduced. Every potential dev involved is more than capable of shitting the bed like the current team in charge lol. But it would be fair to say that they're capable of far more. Bilbo by himself is more capable than anyone that has their hand on the wheel currently. But obviously one man cant run the entire show. It takes a team of non retards and they're being assembled as we speak you absolute fucking faggot.

>>54005246
we shit post, forever

>>54005246
I'm figuring out where to move in the next state over for a tax advantage, unironically.

What even caused the price to go down so heavily this time anyway?

bros i cant...

>>54006682
Bank shit

buttcoin is going to 16k
i can't stand this lunc bleeding
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

All will be well soon.

>>54007988
Checked and based.

>>54002899
Nova anon here. This isn't about Nova vs. Zaradar or Zaradar vs. Nova. This is about what's best for the chain. Do you honestly think Zaradar is putting the best interests of the chain above his own interests based on his actions to date? If you do, what actions has he done that make you feel that way?

Fill my low order at the very fucking least.

>>54007988
Yeah, just not for you LMAO

>>54008021
>Do you honestly think Zaradar is putting the best interests of the chain above his own interests based on his actions to date?
No. but there's a reason to this method.

If he holds the "keys to the code" so to speak. Then it would be our best interest to convince him and the L1 team that Nova's interests will ultimate benefit everyone and his own. He never said "no" even to failed ideas like Duncan's proposals.

Besides that. I do believe that only he and Ed are in contact with CZ Binance. If Nova is going to gain support and power to execute the plan, it'd be great to contact CZ through Zaradar. Even if that's not the case, keeping the peace and influencing him to achieve our goals for us would be easier than seizing control by removing him any other way.

What I disagree with is becoming an adversary to someone else, just because they're interest is different from yours. Both of you want LUNC moon past $1, $10, or even $100 right? No one on either side is shorting this to zero like a few of the enemies we know.

Other than that. I am concerned about validator rivalry. Allnodes and everyone under their thumb hates Nova. I think the past few months should've gone differently so it wouldn't look like FUD for concern about Allnode's potential threat to the community. People should get educated about Nova's cause, not gatekept by lies told on here or Twitter. People tend to vote based on the person/drama presented, rather than the idea itself. We need more people staking with us. We need our ideas out there. We need to become part of the L1 team to change it from the inside out.

Tl;dr - What's best for the chain is to convince Zaradar to support our cause. Rather than fighting an uphill battle against those who has been around longer and gained too much power. Not about working together, but to form an alliance to get what we want.

>>54008236
He doesn't hold the keys to the code, the chain is permissionless and I've had conversations with Ed already where he's committed to put forth his "No canonical repo" proposal up for vote (since it should have been put up anyways), and we know that proposal will pass, so no one holds the keys to the code in that system.

I get your perspective, and would agree with it if Zaradar's interests and ours *were* aligned, but I'm not convinced they are right now, *because* of his actions. If he doesn't have the chain's best interest at heart, then that means he has no interest in having the price go up, and that this is just a community pool grift to him.

Zaradar has been doing power plays since day one to try and take over the chain to extract value from it. Do you see how he manipulates his followers on Twitter by lying to them and attacking people when they point out that he's wrong on something? It's the same clowns as Terra Rebels in L1 JTF, it's just a different circus.

Again, my concern is that this is a grift, and he'll draw it out as long as he can while doing the bare minimum to keep it going. We need to be prepped for the BTC halving. Have you seen the code he did for the v1.1.0 change? I am happy to talk about it in a follow up post if you're interested.

Also, compromised validators hating Nova right now may be seen as a bad thing in the short term, but will be seen as a good thing in long term. The compromised validators are in the wrong here. This is people's fucking money we're dealing with here.

Running a validator is a big responsibility, and they are ignoring that responsibility. I can fight this battle all day. Ed *agrees* with me on this too, and has talked about forcing compromised validators to remake their validators before in the past via code changes so I'm not exactly alone in thinking this way either.

What's best for the chain is for people to stop acting in their own self interests at the expense of the chain and community.

>>54001457
Going great, usury is gay and all financial systems will break.

>>54008528
>Have you seen the code he did for the v1.1.0 change? I am happy to talk about it in a follow up post if you're interested.
Tell me more

i sold

>>54008528
>I'm not convinced they are right now, *because* of his actions. If he doesn't have the chain's best interest at heart, then that means he has no interest in having the price go up, and that this is just a community pool grift to him.
Then why can't we take action and call him out in a "not so obvious way". His plan seems to be drawing out rebuilding lunc for as long as possible. However, that doesn't make sense, since the profit he'd get for fixing lunc is worth millions. Even the previous TR team's plan was to grift 150,000 and then pump their USTC bags by printing more trillions of lunc, then shorting one and longing the other.

For Zaradar to just stage the development of lunc to last for a long time (2-5 years from his AMA) then I understand why it seems like grifting, if he's doing it on purpose. I thought it would take a long time because there's not a lot of coding done in the L1 team and Ed does most of the work. Wouldn't an option to have Nova work and code with them speed up the process tremendously?
>Do you see how he manipulates his followers on Twitter by lying to them and attacking people when they point out that he's wrong on something?
He's all hope with little action. His followers defend him like a religion BECAUSE they're afraid of him rage quitting and leaving Lunc for the wolves. Or worse, pissing off CZ so the burns would stop and the one thing that sets this coin above many others is gone. Not the burns... just the fact that CZ wants this to make him money. Zaradar leaving is the biggest FUD yet, because the normies don't know about Nova or that it Lunc can be saved months before the next halving.

>The compromised validators are in the wrong here.
Understood. But can that issue get fixed after we solve the inflated supply problem? I don't think Allnodes would shoot themselves in the foot to crash the chain by hijacking the voting power. Why would they lose potentially 100s of millions by destroying their own reputation?

cont.

>>54008741
Sure, first off let's look at the changes from v1.0.5 to v1.1.0: https://github.com/classic-terra/core/compare/v1.0.5...v1.1.0

First off: This change is pretty huge, with 444 files changed, which makes it pretty hard to review. Ideally some of these changes had been batched in smaller semver releases, especially changes that are just renaming of repos from terra-money to classic-terra, but I'll let it slide this time and assume next release will have less changes that need to be reviewed (I hope). The more changes there are, the harder it is to review a release, and the more likely an issue will slip in. Anyways. Moving on.

We have 33 commits in this release. Of those 33 commits:
- 16 were inon-man (48.48484848%)
- 11 were nghuyenthevinh2000 (33.33333333%)
- 5 were Tobias Anderson (15.15151515%)
- 2 were ZaradarTR (6.06060606%)
- 2 were fragwuerdig (6.06060606%)
- 2 were dependabot (6.06060606%)
- 2 were edk208 (6.06060606%)

ZaradarTR and Tobias Anderson are the same person, so we'll combine those commits and give them 7 commits out of 33 (21.21212121%). It's clear that inon-man and nghuyenthevinh2000 did the lions share of the commit work in this release, with minor contributions from frag and Ed.

Alright, let's walk through ZaradarTR's 2 commits first then before we dig into Tobias Anderson's commits (even though they're both "Zaradar" accounts).

commit 3152f0c: https://github.com/classic-terra/core/commit/3152f0c3d517f2021ffdacc11cfc686f18b03eb9
commit 402a23b: https://github.com/classic-terra/core/commit/3152f0c3d517f2021ffdacc11cfc686f18b03eb9

These commits are incredibly simple, both of them being one line changes to the same file, and all they're doing is shuffling around an apk update command and removing dependencies on zlib and libssl. Okay. So nothing super of note there. Commits are only one vector of work contributed, so let's give him the benefit of the doubt that he's doing work elsewhere and move on.

>>54009095
The validators aren't even the most important issue right now. It's the do-nothing validators draining the community pool and the low burn tax that has to get addressed and fixed first. I read on the general that a dynamic tax proposal to charge more on wallets with billions of lunc so they're forced to break up their stake amounts to smaller wallets. We could also impose a staking limit so no wallet can stake more than 20 million lunc to one validator. (This could be skipped by having multiple wallets, but it's a hassle to set up)
Anyway, we got a lot more problems to fix before talking trying to fix compromised validators. Especially when some can't afford the tech to make their own so that's why they're renting from Allnodes.

>Have you seen the code he did for the v1.1.0 change? I am happy to talk about it in a follow up post if you're interested.
Yes please. We need to fix this before summer swings into full force. It's gonna be a slow rise into the halving and we don't want to get left behind.

>What's best for the chain is for people to stop acting in their own self interests at the expense of the chain and community.
To get someone to stop and change, you gotta make your interest seem like it's their own. He needs devs to code, he needs us. That's why it's so easy to change his interests when he depends on us. If you know what I mean.

>>54009184
Okay, so we've looked at ZaradarTR's 2 commits, now let's look at Tobias Anderson's 5 commits.

commit 402a23b: https://github.com/classic-terra/core/commit/0eced5e5f2ca37d78627afb9378537cf4f64d563

This commit is mainly simple version bump changes and some minor changes to Github CI workflow tests. Nothing interesting to see here, moving on.

commit b3b9038: https://github.com/classic-terra/core/commit/b3b903842f097eb9aa0dd636b3e20c3cd7f89e56

Minor change to the Dockerfile that was changed by commits 3152f0c and 402a23b, and a bunch more version upgrades from Snyk patches. Nothing super noteworthy here. Moving on.

commit f429a07: https://github.com/classic-terra/core/commit/f429a0740a61fd85e7e2a2f71d458aef33c25ec7

All this change does is literally just adds some very minor text to feature_request.md. Literally a complete nothing burger. Moving on.

commit bdcb896: https://github.com/classic-terra/core/commit/bdcb8964afc890704578549002ca5a4842a9cdef

Literally all this change does is adjust some spacing in the file and add distribution keeper to the ante handler, an incredibly basic change overall. Nothing noteworthy here, moving on.

commit f0ad7d8: https://github.com/classic-terra/core/commit/f0ad7d865ad89c54fda29f1e5529887133236817

Okay. This is literally the only commit that Zaradar has done that has code changes of any sort of substance worth looking at, so let's look at it and see what Cosmos based L1 changes he's done to the code base. Huh... it's primarly just Dockerfile changes... nothing substantial to the L1 code done at all. The entire gist of this commit is basically that he's trying to dockerize creation of a validator. Why? What does this have to do with the 1.1.0 release? To what purpose is he doing this? Let's check the Pull Request: https://github.com/classic-terra/core/pull/105 - what's this "Terra Operator" that he's talking about in the pull request?

>>54009195
Oh look, there's a repo here called Terra Operator: https://github.com/classic-terra/terra-operator - oh it's just a fork of code in a "be-heroes" repo (https://github.com/be-heroes/terra-operator)) that Zaradar wrote in December 2022 and is rolling into Classic Terra now. Okay... speaking as a validator, it seems like a solution looking for a problem. Zaradar sure does seem to love his Docker and Kubernetes. Seems like his comfort zone, but none of this code here is really adding *that* much value to the chain, in my opinion; nor is it what the chain has paid for him to be doing.

Interesting, while I'm looking at pull requests, it also looks here like he also merged in this commit that was actually broken functionality without it being peer reviewed and had to be reverted when inon-man (the one doing the majority of the work) called him out on it:

pull 51: https://github.com/classic-terra/core/pull/51
pull 82: https://github.com/classic-terra/core/pull/82

Comments where inon-man calls out Zaradar for merging the commit unchecked:

https://github.com/classic-terra/core/pull/82#issuecomment-1411681800
https://github.com/classic-terra/core/pull/82#issuecomment-1411926024
https://github.com/classic-terra/core/pull/82#issuecomment-1411927491

You can also see Zaradar trying to justify himself here:

https://github.com/classic-terra/core/pull/82#issuecomment-1411922370

You can also see another developer (lehajam) piping in and explaining why the pull request itself was fundamentally wrong:

https://github.com/classic-terra/core/pull/82#issuecomment-1411792252

>>54009210
So let's see here, for the 1.1.0 release Zaradar did:
- Merged a pull request in that had broken code into the codebase without testing or proper peer review, got called out by inon-man for it, made some excuses, and ultimately had to revert the change because the code was fundamentally wrong
- Did some a multitude of very simple version changes or superfluous one line changes
- Set up some Dockerfiles and forked in an unrelated Terra Operator project that has commits dating back to before Terra Rebels, and that the commmunity (and especially validators who would be the ones running this kind of project) have never asked for

Those don't seem like very substantial changes, do they? Do those changes feel worth $37,500 from the community pool to you when you contrast the actual "L1 work" he's done with the problems he's caused in the change and the wider community because of his divisiveness?

This isn't how someone who is working in the best interest of the chain acts. Why is he acting like he's doing all this programming work when it's provable that he's not? The only answer I can think of is that he thinks he can get away with it, because the community believes in him that blindly. All he has to do is say some nice sounding programmatic bullshit that makes any professional developer's eyes roll, and the community will eat it up and he'll just keep grifting the community pool while whining about not being paid enough.

I get shit on because I'm the only one calling this shit out, and that's because I'm actually trying to warn people before we get another Terra Rebels again, because I've seen far too many red flags. If this shit wasn't happening you wouldn't be hearing from me. I'd rather be building out Nova. But we saw it with Terra Rebels, we're seeing it again now, and hopefully you guys see it now too.

>>54009095
>Then why can't we take action and call him out in a "not so obvious way"
I've called him out on Twitter. He'll just call you a liar, say you don't know what you're doing, and if you prove him wrong by demonstrating undeniable competence he'll run away. That's why I'm calling out his playbook now, so other people start to see it for what it is: complete bullshit.

>His plan seems to be drawing out rebuilding lunc for as long as possible
This seems to be the case, and it's a problem. In one of his AMAs he recently was saying that LUNC is a generational play. I'm not fucking making this up, just give this a listen. I'm sure another anon in here who's listened to this AMA can give you the timestamp as well since I can't recall off the top of my head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlnI1VJNup0

>Wouldn't an option to have Nova work and code with them speed up the process tremendously?
The problem is that Zaradar seems impossible to work with. It's a non trivial part of why I've stayed away, because I sniffed much of this out during the Terra Rebels era along with other friends of Nova, but good luck getting the community to hear you out back then. I don't necessarily have an issue with the L1 JTF as a whole, so long as they're doing THE RIGHT work to move the needle on reviving the chain I've got nothing to say. It's only when they deviate from that and put the chain at risk that I have to speak up, which unfortunately has been often as of late.

>But can that issue get fixed after we solve the inflated supply problem?
If you ask me, it'll be harder to solve after the inflated supply issue is resolved, because the financial upside for a malicious actor would be larger, and the stakes for a compromised validator to remake their validator would be higher. Cosmos key rotation is a possible solve but we don't have that yet. I don't think Allnodes would do anything bad, but they are at risk all the same.

>>54009184
>>54009237
what's your personal or insider opinion about CZ?

If he and Ed's or L1 is in direct contact with him and binance wants to make money...why the slow progress?
can't CZ just threaten them or fire their asses or fucking something?
Zaradar needs a fucking beating , in the sense of getting serious scolded...
he does nothing but shitpost on twitter and doing shitty jewtube videos with some dumb black dude..

JUST MOON THIS FUCKING SHITCOIN ALREADY
REEEEEE

I'm tempted of selling my luncies for ETH while is cheap and buying back later ....

>>54009192
>The validators aren't even the most important issue right now.
Sure. But that doesn't mean we let the issue slide. Also, validators don't get paid out of the community pool, they get paid out of the Oracle Rewards pool via commissions. The VP distribution is a problem that needs to be solved though, yes. It's entirely possible compromised validators self solve over time as their nodes become unprofitable to run and they shut down (we've already seen this happen with one compromised validator, perhaps we'll see it with more)

>Yes please.
I give a breakdown here >>54009184

>That's why it's so easy to change his interests when he depends on us. If you know what I mean.
I get you. Ideally the community would just see him for what he is though.

>>54009326
CZ runs the show but needs people to think he doesn't run the show, is my bet. Could be wrong though. Regardless of CZ I just want to try and fix the chain and secure giga make it bags for me and my delegators. That's really all it is.

The fact people think this problem is unsolvable is what compels me to try and solve it.

>>54009237
Thanks for the great work educating us. I really appreciate the run down here. I used to think Zaradar was a top tier coder like Ed, but it seems he's a klutz within the coding job and directing the community on Twitter.
>while whining about not being paid enough.
Yeah, even I called out his bullshit on that. I thought he was trolling the TR team back then. I thought he was just being based and countering Alex's grifting. How wrong I was.

>But we saw it with Terra Rebels, we're seeing it again now, and hopefully you guys see it now too.
I see it now. Question is, how do we stop him? If he can't listen to reason, then can't we just put in our own code if he doesn't have the keys to it?
>i've called him out on Twitter. He'll just call you a liar
About the compromised validators or about Zaradar's updates himself. You'll have to target one specific guy rather than targeting entire groups of people at once with their own armies of followers. Else everyone will think you're fudding the entire community.
>The problem is that Zaradar seems impossible to work with
He can be countered by hard hitting facts and cornered by getting his devs to stand against him. Ed is already on your side. Why not convince the rest of them?

All in all, godtier posts fren. This is what we need to throw out there so that everyone sees Zaradar for who he is. Then Lunc and the community will finally change for the better.

>>54009403
>Thanks for the great work educating us. I really appreciate the run down here.
Happy to do it.

>I used to think Zaradar was a top tier coder like Ed
Both are capable of coding and have knowledge. Not denying that. It's just Zaradar's intentions that I question right now, and I do think there are better developers out there in the ecosystem then them for sure. They're not dumb though, especially Ed. I just think the love of his audience has gotten to Zaradar's head and inflated his ego, perhaps. I don't know. All I know is that we need to be prepped before the halving, and we're nowhere near where we need to be.

>Yeah, even I called out his bullshit on that. I thought he was trolling the TR team back then. I thought he was just being based and countering Alex's grifting. How wrong I was.
You worked with the information you had. Now you have more. In six months we'll all know more too. What matters is moving the needle.

>I see it now. Question is, how do we stop him? If he can't listen to reason, then can't we just put in our own code if he doesn't have the keys to it?
Ed's "No Canonical Repo" proposal will help with this. A proper testnet being set up to bang on will be good too.

>About the compromised validators or about Zaradar's updates himself.
Both.

>You'll have to target one specific guy rather than targeting entire groups of people at once with their own armies of followers. Else everyone will think you're fudding the entire community.
I'm definitely guilty as charged of doing that. Staying the course and just repeating the facts has helped with this, though. At the end of the day it seems like it's garnered me more respect then hatred, and the people who do dislike me aren't adding value to the chain anyways so they don't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

>He can be countered by hard hitting facts and cornered by getting his devs to stand against him.
He'll just slander the devs that stand up to him too. Saw that with Jacob.

>>54009474
>Ed is already on your side. Why not convince the rest of them?
I wouldn't say he's entirely on my side about Zaradar, just that the Allnodes situation is a problem. I'd fully expect him to still be on Zaradar's side. Would make sense to me. But who knows.

>All in all, godtier posts fren. This is what we need to throw out there so that everyone sees Zaradar for who he is. Then Lunc and the community will finally change for the better.
Thank you. With everything that's happened, people may have a reason to feel pessimistic about the future of the chain, but I'm actually more optimistic then I was when I first got into this chain because I know I'm not in this alone.

>>54009184
Meanwhile, nova has 0. Maybe do something other than complaining, at least. Nobody's going to trust some idiots who keep talking shit about zaradar if they haven't proven they can contribute to the repo and is committed to lunc.
that's how frag became part of the L1. He added prs and contributed to the ibcs reopening and proved he could code.
What the fuck are nova doing? Complaining and stirring up drama. You guys want to be taken seriously by the community? Contribute something.
Even unmerged code would say something.

>>54010356
>also has zero
So I shouldn't read your wall of text, either. correct?

Damn, it's broken through the December bottom

let the nukes fly already, fuck this

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>54010587
it's ogre.

It's over, i hate the NIGGER and THE JEW. 88 JEWS WILL MEET THE GENOCIDE THEY DESERVE.

>>54010356
You didn't read anything at all, right? You fucking illiterate nigger. External fudfags trying to fud on nova are just pathetic. This is all you got lunaticniggerlover69?

I suck at shorting.

>When almost all tokens are mini pumping and lunc back to dump and crab city..

Piece of shit token AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

It's over

Are we even sure the inflated supply issue can be resolved?

1 pbtid shitstorm

Just DCA you dummies, I hope we dip to the .00005-8 levels so I can triple my bag

>>54015615
This. I found out that we had 30 bucks left on an "economic impact payment" debit card from the pandemic. I threw it into LUNC this morning. It's a drop in the bucket on top of my 30 million LUNC but hey - more LUNC is more LUNC.

Suck my dick, fudders.

>>54010356
>Meanwhile, nova has 0.
We're not being paid $37,500 for a quarter to work on the L1 codebase. Zaradar is. If we were being paid you'd see commits from us. Really that simple.

>Maybe do something other than complaining, at least.
You'll realize how silly this statement is when we release the whitepaper, but until then you perceiving us as "doing nothing but complaining" is understandable. You're not in the spaces where we *are* contributing, and we're doing a lot of the work on our own because as has been shown the intentions of some of the "leaders" in this chain can't be trusted, based on their actions.

>Nobody's going to trust some idiots who keep talking shit about zaradar if they haven't proven they can contribute to the repo and is committed to lunc.
Pointing out real issues with Zaradar that can be pointed to and aren't denied isn't talking shit. You want to wait for a year while he strings the community along and we ultimately get nowhere?

>that's how frag became part of the L1. He added prs and contributed to the ibcs reopening and proved he could code.
We have no desire to be part of the L1. This chain is supposed to be decentralized. There should be able to be multiple L1 teams, not just the L1 JTF. If we join the L1 JTF we become beholden to a power dynamic that we don't control, and the chain becomes more centralized and loses one of the differentiators that made it interesting to developers after the crash compared to other chains. The only way to keep the power dynamic balanced is to have our own L1 team that answers directly to the community, not the whims of Zaradar. You should try talking to people from Terra Rebels about how Terra Rebels was while Zaradar was there. Competition amongst multiple L1 teams would be a *good thing*, and would force all L1 teams to get their act together and work in the best interest of the chain instead of themselves. It's simple balancing of incentives.

>>54016352
>What the fuck are nova doing? Complaining and stirring up drama.
Pointing out facts that the community doesn't like to hear isn't complaining, nor is it stirring up drama. The community reacting negatively to an undeniable truth that they don't want to hear and creating drama from it by attacking us for saying the truth is their fault, not ours.

>You guys want to be taken seriously by the community? Contribute something.
We've contributed plenty already that you're not acknowledging, and we'll be contributing even more when we release the whitepaper. Until then feel free to have this negative perception based on your limited information and context of what we've been doing.

>Even unmerged code would say something.
We'll just have our own repo when the "No Canonical Repo" goes up for vote and passes.

>>54016352
>We're not being paid $37,500 for a quarter to work on the L1 codebase. Zaradar is. If we were being paid you'd see commits from us. Really that simple.
Shouldnt the massive amount of money you gain by saving the chain incentive enough? And yes same logic towards Zaradar, that fucking faggot should have had plenty of incentive as well.

>>54016827
Correct. It should be, and it is. We're motivated to do what we're doing either way. But this is where I talk about "right greed" and "wrong greed". I'll be blunt. We're being greedy by wanting to be paid for our work, and we're not hiding from the fact. The more LUNC and USTC we get paid, the more money we stand to make later as the chain recovers. It's the difference between becoming multi-millionaires or becoming billionaires. It's still a risky play because there is a chance we could fail in our efforts to revive the chain, but it's a risk worth taking because if we're right, we're right huge. So naturally you'd want to stack your bags for that day, which of course... aligns our incentives with other investors in the chain like you. We all want the price to go up, and benefit from doing so. Right greed.

Wrong greed is what seems to be happening now with Zaradar, where there's no incentive to actually fix the chain, and he can just sit back and siphon money from the community pool and punt off fixing the chain for as long as possible. In a dynamic like that, he has no reason to care what the price of LUNC is since he's getting paid anyways and the community will just buy whatever narrative he happens to be selling. Remember when he was talking about how he could burn LUNC 50,000x faster then the burn tax? Where did that go? Guess it never existed, since now he's saying that LUNC is a multi-generational play that could take decades to burn down the supply. Wonder what made the narrative change as soon as he started getting paid? Interesting how unaligned his incentives are with that of investors, isn't it? Wrong greed.

>>54017650
Based novaanon

>>54016352
>make some prs
>point to it as proof you can code
>make a proposal to be ONE of the L1 teams
everything is just excuses.

bullish on LUNC desu ne

>>54019257
You must really love centralization don't you?

>>54015528
Yes, we just need 10 Billions in liquidity, goy.

>>54021807
Kek

I'm wondering why even in the biggest fud episodes or happenings, 2UNA never goes below $1 while lunc is full of paperhanded faggots
look at the price right now...

can anyone explain?
does King Tae Do kwon do injects capital everytime his scamcoin is trying to rug or is somebody fucking with lunc everytime?

I can't even retire my funds from Terra station app. What the hell.

>>54024524
>does King Tae Do kwon do injects capital everytime his scamcoin is trying to rug or is somebody fucking with lunc everytime?
The latter, faggot. (((They))) can't let us win