/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>5393159
Dont disclose your gains

MCO looks sexy as fuck right now

uh yes?
why is /biz/ so scared of family/friends asking for handouts lol, just say no
would you ask for a fucking handout if someone was doing well? fuck anyone who asks

>>5393187
*until your a millionaire neet then rub it in their wagecuck faces

>>5393208
It's not about hand outs anon, it's more that they think they're better than me because I "have nothing" and they like to shit on me for being a neet.

>>5393208
t. family member

don't do it OP

>>5393208
Its not the handout questions, its the fact that a lot of them will start resenting you.

t. self-made rich anon

>>5393159
No, don't do it.
All these money leeching asswipes want the money you have as a "duty".
DONT DO IT ANON

>>5393159
no don't. never.

>>5393159

Don't tell people shit.

Let them hassle you all they want, who gives a fuck? You get to do what you want all day.

>>5393159

Well done good sir.

>Christmas party again this year
>entire family will be there
>hot niece will be there

Help bros.

>>5393252
then they were shit anyways, my cousin has been making fucking bank with his career and I'm nothing but happy for him

>>5393159
drop it, stop being beta

dont do it at anon, revealing your power level is allways a big mistake. normies are bitter and hateful

at the very most just say 'yeah i've been doing okay with the stock market this year' or some normie shit

The point of wealth is the inner peace that comes knowing you can buy anything and be safe.

Much like you won't think of crypto in terms on fiat once you're ready, you won't mind people bragging about their jobs once you make it.

Living well is the best revenge.

No, not worth it. Just keep accumulating. One day, when you are content with your wealth, buy a nice house, nice car, and move away saying nothing and cut all ties. Family like that are leaches

>>5393159
Don’t trust anyone

>>5393159
Wait a little more itll be worth it. You can buy yourself something to show off, but dont forget to be humble as well.

>>5393159
NOTHING I TOLD THEM, NOTHING

>>5393159
never reveal your power revel OP, if you're 21yo and you don't want to see them just. don't go faggot

>>5393159

You must hide your power level anon. Once the normies discover you have crypto they will surely try to take it from you. Resist the urge to flatter your own ego and you will prosper.

>>5393308
Youre a good person then. I tell select people I trust.

But unfortunately most people are shit. I generally try to see if someone has an entrepreneurial mindset himself before talking about things like that.

>>5393303

>>5393159
Don't tell them anything. They will berate you and if you really make it, they will ask for tips. If those tips turn out not so great, they will berate you again.

>>5393371
this

>>5393159
>Should I drop the bomb on them this year /biz/?
No

>>5393159
Tell them and convince them to invest too, theyll thank you in a year.

They hate you anyway so what difference does it make if you reveal it? Now they act superior to you and if you reveal it they will act resentful.

>>5393443
>"NAH MAN I DONT GAMBLE ITS A PONZY SCHEME THEY SAID SO ON THE NEWS"

>>5393159
Don't. You'll regret it.

>>5393159

wailt til 1mil.

200k is a nice gain - but if you're otherwise unemployed and got nothing going on - it isn't going to get you very far.

>>5393159
keep quiet let your success do the talking

Never explain

>>5393159
shut your fucking mouth until you reach 1mil+
then delete all their info get a new phone number and move to a new country

Idk man. Our moms will never respect it, in fact they'll probably resent it. Our dads will probably get sad about wage cucking their entire life.

Maybe if you gave them some bitcoin for Christmas.. I've been thinking about doing that as a way to break the news. Plus if you give it to them on a hardware wallet you'll get it back after they die.

tell them you do freelance work on the internet and that you make enough to make a living
if they start prying, tell them the nature of your work involves NDAs, so you are not allowed to discuss it with them
tell them you make enough to get by comfortably

They're just worried because they care anon. They love you, they're your family. Don't listen to the edgy bitter frogs on here. You can tell them or not, that's your call but they just want to see you happy and aren't aware that you're well on the way. How could they?

>>5393791
Finally, a voice of sanity!

>>5393159
never show your power level

>>5393159
buy a rolex or something and just wear it without saying anything
Normally i think luxury products are bullshit but it might be fun to fuck with them. Sell it after or something

>>5393238
>>5393159
>>5393587
You will make it.
RIGHT NOW don't tell them anything, DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, they will hate you even more because they see you as inferior and will try to FUD crypto with something like "well it was just a gamble! just as you made 200k, you could lose it all tomorrow,get a real job,200k don't last for ever!!.

But ONCE you make it, they will know, yes they will, you won't NEED to tell them, they will fucking know, and they will envy you and feel like the worst shit ever. That's the point where you have won my friend. Keep going.

>>5393791
not everyone has a faggot family like you faggot

>>5393159
Don't, you will only be a shitmagnet

To all of you who might have the question "Should I disclose financial gains to my family"

The answer is always NO.

Understand that in Capitalism, there is a slave class and a ruling class. The slave class are indoctrinated from birth into values of "hard work" and believing in government / bank scams that will increase their net worth somewhat but keep them working forever. Their ENTIRE LIVES and world views are based on these axioms, which they are taught from the education system, the job market, mass media etc. This situation influences their beliefs, faith, love life, their entire lives are based on axioms they were taught, and have not challenged.
The ruling class have either got no sense for money whatsoever (e.g. Instragram kiddies who lead bizarre rich people lives, look it up) OR they have so much sense that they see through the system and start exploiting its bullshit for themselves. They gain perspective far detached from the "hard work" narrative. Others get woke, and organise themselves to live free lives.

Now, what happens if you break the narrative? Those with unchallenged delusions about the world begin to LOATHE you. It's difficult to be told that decades spent contributing to the narrative, were essentially superseded by someone who deals in bullshit, and makes x10 as much as them - even though the rich on TV do exactly that! But on TV, it's so detached, they just accept it.

With you? Reality stares them down in the face, they awake from the American dream. Scared, they immediately become defensive, they will often blame you instead of the narrative that jails them, because it's just an easier hill for them to die on.

Get woke / get rich, or die trying.

Screenshot for future use

>>5393159
Drop the bomb, but say you have like 30k instead of 200k. It'll have essentially the same effect (that's like the yearly income of a low income person).

Some seriously autistic fucks ITT.

How come everyone hates their family here? I got my 60 year old blue collar dad involved in crypto and made a portfolio for him and he's nearly x2 already.

He is starting to learn memes and chatting about shitcoins is a bonding activity.

Extended family maybe don't reveal but your own parents?

They will see it like lottery winnings and expect you to share.

Keep hold of your 'fuck you money'.
And don't tell people. Telling them will be satisfying for a second and then you'll regret it.

>>5394010
>Some seriously autistic fucks ITT.
You're retarded if you think all families are the same, some parents are shit.

>>5394010
Parents depends on family but friends is a NOGO

>>5394010
Its as if everyone here has shit family and trust issues

>>5393791
>but they just want to see you happy and aren't aware that you're well on the way. How could they?

hahahahHAHAHAAHAHAHA

Money brings out the worst in people mate, even family

>>5394156
THIS

>>5394010
because in the end of the day even your mother, father etc are also only humans. listen to >>5394156
i had to learn it the hard way

>>5394156
My parents would be ecstatic to know im well off.

>>5393213
This

>>5394143
>its as if most people that are redpilled got that way by being exposed to a non-fairytale-esque reality

>>5393208
They'll steal it or kill you if they have to. Never underestimate the sick mind of a normal scum.

>>5393159

No.

Tell them that you've given up materialism for a life of religious piety and that you've found your way to Jesus.

NEVER NEVER NEVER NO MATTER HOW TEMPTING

>>5394241
Then tell them you are well off, see what happens. Tell your siblings and cousins too.

Im going to assume you're not "well off" yet and havent experienced the fact the people start to believe they value your own money more than you do, hence they deserve handouts on virtue of the fact that you already have money.

Especially if its because OP didnt earn it within socially acceptable parameters. If OP said that he made 200k on the stock market for example he would be the genius of the family, but because the media is portraying crypto as either tulip mania 2000 or some shady ponzi scheme they will look down on OP as underserving of his wealth, even if he spent the time or took the risks to explore a new emerging market by his own free will.

You're not an angel, neither are your friends, nor are your family. There is a reason why the wise men of all ages have told us over and over again that we can only change ourselves if we want to better the world, meanwhile you have to put up with the completely un-selfaware masses believing they are all perfect beings who do no wrong and for some bizzare reason deserve the entire world for nothing. Funny thing is for us, the crypto world quickly teaches us that we aren't smarter or more deserving than anyone else.

>>5393159
Are you financially independent?

If you are, just tell them that you're actually making some decent money on the stock market.

If you aren't, you deserve to be bullied by your family.

>>5393406
>>5393303
Is it wrong to engage in sexual relations with a step-cousin?

>>5394393
Not everyone is the same. My brothers, family and friends would never ask anything of me and would be happy for my success. Sorry you dont hang around people you can trust.

>>5394010
>How come everyone hates their family here? I got my 60 year old blue collar dad involved in crypto and made a portfolio for him and he's nearly x2 already.
>He is starting to learn memes and chatting about shitcoins is a bonding activity.

That made my heart warm a little, thanks anon.

Listen to me:
Never, ever, tell anyone about how much money you actually have.
You don't understand how jealous and greedy other people can be.

I told my family that I have over 2 million dollars in my name and they don't even see me as a family member because I don't give them anything.
My sister, mother and grand-mother are leeching of me and beg for money everytime we speak on the phone and/or see eachother.
They see me as anything but a family now.

You family WILL turn against you if they know that you are rich. It's human nature to be greedy and fuck anyone else over for their own gain.

You can't cash out anyway so you're still a failure; why brag about it?

>>5393159
Look up what happens to lottery winners. There’s a Reddit post about what to do if you win, and it has a TON of examples of family stealing and killing spouses for it, etc. don’t do it

>>5394534
Oh, and you can kiss your friends goodbye.
I bought a nice brand new BMW with some of my money and they instantly knew I was rich.
Every subject we talk about always ends up with me being rich. You are forced to find new rich friends because your old ones will not leave you alone and talk to you as they did when you weren't rich. I hate this. I just want my family back. I wish I never told them anything.

>>5394547
What did he mean by this?

>>5394480
What kind of step cousin

>>5393159
DO NOT TELL THEM SHIT! JUST LEAVE AN LAUGH AT THEIR STUPID ASSES FROM YOUR LAMBO! LET THEM LAUGH! SOON THEY'LL CRY, BEG AND PLEAD AND YOU'LL SEE HOW MUCH OF A "FAMILY" THEY REALLY ARE!

The Age of NEETs has come!

>"Have you bought bitcoin anon?"
>"Fuck yea i did you should too"

This is how you maintain healthy relationships.
Making it is only half the battle gentlemen.

>not gambling with your mommy's money
>not telling your relatives to make them rich too
>not telling your boss you are making a killing compared to pennies he pays you and he better start looking for replacement

>>5394625
nocoiner cope/hyde community cope

>>5393953

Nobody ever says what "get woke" means. I am woke. Woke enough to make 110k salary. But I know I'm being rused regardless and will never become rich outside of saving 50% of my income for 30 years.

I have a cousin who started begging in the streets in Europe 20 years ago, in ten years he owned hotels, then lost it all in the financial collapse. He borrowed 200 bucks from me ten years ago. This year he came out at as a multimillionaire.

I'm woke, but I don't see the path forward.

Bruv do not tell them shit. Sick and tired of normies dude. Let them wage cuck for the rest of their lives. It's great having an upper hand in life for once.

I have a cousin that makes bank at his job, working for a major media corporation. People ask him for free shit all the time and he just started telling me how he's starting to cut people off. Tell them, if they treat you like shit leave them behind.

>>5393159
Don't tell them. Never disclose how much you have.

lol OP. $200k isnt enough to justify being an unemployed neet. they are rightly concerned about you. Get a job.

Order a lambo from your phone during dinner

>>5394502
>The one guy who hasnt actually made it ITT saying everyone else is wrong
>Several stories ITT from people who have made it saying otherwise

Again, get there first before stroking your dick over yourself.

>>5393159
i swear OP, you need to stay poorfag perception

i made the mistake to disclose it to my mom, guess what, she asked me if i can loan her money for a car - yeah.. fuck me amirite

never disclose it even to close family, it is somehow a ticket to irresponsible lifestyle

>>5393159
Dont tell ur family anything bro. Tt has bit me in the ass, oo lets be honest, EVERY FUCKING SINGLE TIME I HAVE TOLD ANYONE. (besides old crypto buddies)

>>5393159
>even going
wew lad. think of the gains you might miss. if you're at all anxious about it or don't feel like going just don't

>>5393159
Just tell them you have other prospects and you're doing just fine.

>>5393375
This, most people don't even understand what money is. They hear $300 and think of an xbox. You should hear it as a unit of measurement, not some "thing".

>>5394010
>How come everyone hates their family here?
i don't know about other people here but my parents tend to lock horns every time they are upset with something. they usually take it out on the person with the least amount of authority and that's me

>>5393953
high quality post

>>5395086
>dividends from my online business ventures
>pimping out digital cats

>>5394638
A hot one

>>5393159
Get to Lamon land beforehand you reveal your power levels.

>>5393325
This. Revealing your crypto gains is asking for the 5 dollar wrench treatment

you do need another source of profit after 5 years unless you invest in REQ

>>5394422
LOL. Then in the next family meeting arrive in a Lambo with some hookers

>>5395212
what's he like

>>5393238
you don't own shit til you cash out u useless neet pos, nothing but a drain on society and your parents with your imaginary internet meme money

>>5395489
>implying cashing out is difficult

>>5395515
Yeah is this bait or just bitter no coiners?

>>5393238
Just tell them you made 200k without having to wageslave every day from 8 to 5 like they do.

>>5393238
>>5393159
It's not worth it anon, don't be a petty little bitch like them who needs to tell everyone how great he is to feel better. Rise above this shit, you're already making it with crypto.

>>5393953
Top quality post right here

>>5393159
same story but my portfolio is 90k. it sucks, but i look like a bum and have a giant beard lol, im waiting till it hits moon mission.

>>5393953
Instagram kiddies are not part of the ruling class anon. Rich celebrities like nigger rappers, edm djs, top youtubers and pop singer girls usually have very low intelligence and they're propped up by the actual ruling class as a distraction. They are representing what the slave class would behave and look like if they suddenly became rich (which is exactly what happens as well, they take random poor people and make stars out of them). They're loud, scandalous, always buy shiny and expensive things, go on expensive holidays, have hot model sluts/boytoys in their instagram pictures etc.
In a sense normalfags feel like they have a connection to these people because they're just like them if they became rich and this keeps them chasing the non existent dream, keeps them thinking that they themselves have just as much potential than someone who has made millions, and keeps them believing in the system. In the mean time (((They))) who oversee and control everything get to pretty much play Civ V

>tfw your mom and dad gave you 4K of their money to invest, and in return you get to take 10% of the profits

Make them ride the wave with you and they won't resent you
It's a win win but it only works if you have reasonable parents

>>5393238

Anon you will truely start living when you stop giving a fuck what other people think.

You don't need them to validate you.

>>5396112

Lol you don’t know what you’re talking about. When instagram first launched the children of Michael Dell etc. were posting their lives in public Instagram profiles. Obviously, security details cracked down and it’s not as obvious anymore but for a year or so everybody got to see what the job creators lived like, and hint, it was just the kind of degenerate lifestyle that having more money than you could ever spend would lead you into.

>>5393896
>sees family member who is unemployed
>looks like he has no money for a while
>All of sudden has lots of money to spend

Better question, how do you do this without making it look like your a fucking drug dealer?

>>5393159

OP think of it this way

you're running a race
everyone around you can't tell how well you're doing

you haven't actually won yet, so don't get cocky
you're doing well but a couple of bad decisions could bring you down significantly

assuming you will win, then you'll have your opportunity to brag
if you do end up failing miserably, in their eyes nothing has changed

it'll be a lot worse if you start talking about how you're kicking ass,
then you lose a shit ton of money and have to jump ship to wageslaving

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGcTCJxnQuI

>>5396236
>illuminati confirmed

>>5393159
Never under ANY circumstances tell your family that you have money.

>>5396236
But the kids themselves are completely delusional and are detached from reality. They would never make it on their own. Also I thought anon was referring to celebrities in general by "instagram kids".
>it was just the kind of degenerate lifestyle that having more money than you could ever spend would lead you into
Who would have fucking thought. Michael Dell tier people are still small tadpoles compared to the real big boys though

Absolutely not. You haven't made anywhere near an amount worthy of bragging. And when you do make it, you won't have to talk about it, it will be evident. Whose new benz is parked on the driveway? Oh it's anon's, he's moving in to his new house in 2 days.

>>5393159
Anon you don’t have to be autistic about it, just get a nice watch, some nice clothes, a day at the spa and maybe a haircut. They’ll go from bulli about you being unemployed, to asking what you do. Just say you’re a freelancer or something ez.

>be me
>few of my friends make fun of me for being jobless and practically poor
>they all work as bartenders for 10 FUCKING euros per day
>i sell my S7 galaxy for 500$
>start trading and lurking /biz/ for moon missions
>make 1500$ in one week (more in one week than they all make in one year of hard labor)
>they accused me of ''hacking'' because they don't know what are cryptos
>feelsgood.jpg

definitely don’t. normies WILL try to leech

You guys scare me. I think my dad will be happy for me because he is a /biz/niszman who knows whats important.

My mom is to consumerist. I think that when my gains are larger than 200 euro she will call me crazy for not cashing out 100%

>>5396112
Words of wisdom

>>5393159
>Should I
No. Don't care about impressing others.

>>5396501
where the fuck are you living that they're paid 10 euros a day

>>5396618
Eastern Europe

>>5396501
You clearly have shit friends.
Also, only poor people has problems talking of money with family, my parents would never ask me a single penny no matter what.

>>5393159
Never reveal your Power Level to anyone.

>>5394010
I explained Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, TRON, and Confido to my dad while I was daytrading on GDAX
He always asks me how my coins are doing when he stops by

>>5396591
Never trust women's opinion when money is involved. Never.

>>5394534
What if one of your friends is the new Bill Gates or Steve Jobs and he needs an investment of 10k to start his company, giving you 20% of all profits.

He'll never ask you for help because he thinks you're a broke NEET. You should be able to tell something, maybe not all, but creating opportunity is never a bad thing desu
> hey friend I got some money, you got some money? lets build something together

>>5394713
>not gambling with your mommy's money

I thought I was the only one doing this, kek

>>5393371

Too late for me. It was going to be obvious when I start traveling the world.

>>5393159
NEVER TELL ANYONE.

Knowledge is power, therefore disclosing your wealth gives others power over you and in return gives you nothing but a short-lived sense of superiority.

This applies to family as much as anyone else.

>>5393159
Drop it like it's "just a dip"

Don't tell them anything. Mine got extremely jealous when I told them I made $500 with one trade that took under 10 minutes. Just suck it up and leave as early as you can, especially if your family is not upper class.

>>5396769

Some women are very good at conserving and saving money. Making it that's another story.

>>5393159
Patience friend, wait until you are cruising around them in your lambo

>>5393159
Have you tried, umm, not going to the party? Don't tell me mommy and daddy are making you go.

Never tell until you cash out

>>5393413
this a thousand times

>>5393159
Tell them nothing. Let your confidence from your success do the talking. If asked, be vague and playful. This is a game, have some fun.

>>5393159
Don't tell them unless you have supportive senpai

>>5393213
*until you have enough to live comfortably for the rest of your days.

>>5393213
This. You shouldn't disclose your gains until you are well out of their reach and influence.

>>5393208
1) Because NEETs have been living on handouts all their lives. It would be hard for them to say no without being guilt-tripped.

2) Many NEETs are paranoid and suspicious of other people by nature. They have no standards for themselves but hold other people to high standards. They expect everyone to be open and transparent but they keep everything they do a secret.

>>5393886
>luxury products are bullshit
They really aren't.
I have stupidly expensive doorknobs and they are a life changer.
Fucking doorknobs.

>>5393763
>Plus if you give it to them on a hardware wallet you'll get it back after they die

fucking kek

>>5393208
Nice try, OP's aunt. You'll never learn that your nephew has 200k no matter how hard you try to trick him into telling you.