/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>53877273
All you need is a firm handshake the rest of it takes care of itself.

>>53877273
stop job hopping when you reach manager. that's my plan, at least.

>>53877273
>best way to get a higher salary is to job hop every year or two

is this actually true or just for super goofyass SWE fields? The boomers at my company are probably clearing 200k with huge fucking pensions that get adjusted for inflation

>>53877309
Maybe its just faang faggot shit, I dunno but it seems the norm.

>>53877309
they get tax breaks and benefits because they're not familylet incel losers and actually a useful reproducing part of society, hence they're rewarded

pop a xanny and you won't sweat any social interaction

>>53877300
Even then, you have to be at a big company where there's room to move laterally and try new things. I'm in a medium sized company and a manager there's two other people whose job j can move into, and both are 30 something with no desire to go anywhere. Maybe I'll get w decent raise or bonus, but unless the company blows up, I will likely be stuck in my position. I'm working on some certs and trying to get into a big company. Job hopping sucks man, I hope this is the last one

>>53877273
I wish this wasn't the case. The old 30+ year career at one company would be so much easier.

>>53877399
my Dad gave me a couple of his xannies when I went through a mental spell and was having routine panic attacks, but I've been sane for a close to two years now. Have some left over too. I just use them for interviews and rizzing tinder bitches.

>>53878079
*I should just use them

>>53877273
Job hop until you Meet The Right One. It's like dating. Meeting new people is stressful and usually doesn't work out. But if you don't meet new people, how else are you gonna meet your wife? The point is not to settle down with the wrong one. Don't stick around in a job unless it's either good for you (in terms of pay and work/life balance) or provides opportunity for you to grow either into the position you want, or into someone-who-is-qualified-for-the-position-you-want in another company. They call that a Monkey Branch, in both dating AND work.

>>53877309
Younger generations aren't getting any of the compensation and perks boomers had as their birthright, in case you haven't noticed yet. For white collar work you'll almost always get more money with a new job than you will staying at the same place forever. Most companies will give a 1-3% annual raise. That's just to keep pace with inflation, and with how inflation is now you're losing money every year if all you get is that minuscule cost of living raise. Even if you land a promotion it likely won't be more than a 10-15% raise unless you're moving into management or executive ranks, and some companies won't promote their best wagies to those positions because they're more valuable to the company as wagies than as managers/executives.

I'm a white collar wagie (not tech or IT or sales) and I've negotiated raises of 20-50% from new companies hiring me to do basically the same thing I was already doing, so thanks to job hopping I'm getting raises that are big enough to improve my life without even moving into a manager/executive role. If I stayed at the first white collar office that hired me I'd be making less than half what I make now, even if I was promoted every couple years. If I wanted to go back to that company I could command a much higher salary now than if I had stayed there for the last dozen years. The reason this dynamic exists is because HR and boomer "leadership" fried their brains into thinking it's better to spend money poaching talent from competitors than it would be spending that money on retaining their proven talent to keep them from getting poached. It's retarded but companies decided this is how they want to allocate their personnel budget so play along if you want to profit.

>>53877273
You can't do it forever either, eventually they choose cheap young graduates over you.
Your experience counts for shit when everything is re-invented every 4-5 years or so.

>>53877299
Underrated

>>53877273
It’s the truth. Interviewing and learning a new job is stressful for a couple weeks, but is that worse than a lifetime of stress from not being paid what you’re worth? My personal experience below:
$12/hr part time
>quit
$17/hr full time
>quit
$43k salary full time
>quit
$58k salary
>stayed 3 years and got 3-5% raises each year
>quit
$105k salary

I known people will shit on my salary and tell me they make $300k or something, but I’m very proud of my progression and willingness to take risk in order to advance when I feel I’m stagnating. Never give up

I'm a fed and it's comfy to never be fired but I wish I earned like 50% more

>>53877273
i don't know where the job hop meme came from but i'm buyside asset management and i've gotten 10%+ raises every year for 5 straight years

maybe you just need to try harder

>>53877273

You job hop in order to promote, and you can promote every two years or so. Just enter your interviews giving glowing praise about your current employer, your work and how much you've learned. Then lament that you know you proven that you're capable of so much more, as evidenced by your expanded responsibilities, but they just don't have an opening for you at the moment.

You're only ever 6 promotions from being a director. You can literally go Target Cashier, phone banker, Jr analyst, Analyst II, Senior Analyst, associate director, to director. Hell, department vice president is only one more promotion beyond that.

Once you've reached a comfortable level you chill. Maybe keep your ear to the ground and be ready to jump ship should things look hairy.

>>53880037
>I known people will shit on my salary and tell me they make $300k or something, but I’m very proud of my progression and willingness to take risk in order to advance when I feel I’m stagnating. Never give up

Never give up and never give a fuck what others think. Everybody will always find a way to hate something if they want to. A person that laughs, ridicules and hates others, most certainly has some other problems (health, psychological, pain, whatever)

>>53880219
>director
Middle management is still a wagie
I used to fall for the director meme until the vp of my company was canned with zero notice because the female boomer svp doesnt like him. Everyone is expandable unless you are a jew that sits on the board

>>53877300
This is only true to the extent that moving up past manager typically requires nepotism/schmoozing, but if you're able to sell yourself effectively you can go from manager to director to VP in a few jumps.

>>53877273
have you tried being satisfied with what you have you entitled faggot

>>53880519
Idiot it's not about wanting more for nothing, it's wanting more because you can due to some stupid trick. It wouldn't exist if they original employee would also raise your pay by an equal amount. This practic simply expresses that your work is undervalued at your past job (if the new one is essentially the same).

>>53880519
cattle brained take

>>53880037
Proud of you, anon, I have a similar path to yours. Fuck anyone who shits on a $100k salary, you worked hard and made the right moves at the right times which isn't an easy thing to pull off.

>t. dumb psych major who is getting consistently $180K/year after base salary+ commissions in a sales job because I worked hard for a decade out of college. I'm making more than even the most advanced salaries in my original field of study

Btw, and I know I'm on 4chan here and you're mostly autists, but soft skills really do go a long way in getting you a good career. If you can get people to like you, and you interview well, you really don't even need to be that good at your job.

>>53880455
>Make enough to comfortably retire in 6 years in a middle class lifestyle, or a cushy lifestyle in 15
>If fired find a job making comparable salary more easily, and even only making 75% would keep you at a high standard of living.
>”W-Wagie.”
Lol. Lmao even

>>53877273
Depends what job you are in. Job hopping may work to your disadvantage if you’re actually competent. You may get overlooked for promotions and just treated as a mercenary. Yes your rate will be good as you simply go to the company who’s most desperate, but they understand what you’ve done and how you simply leave when the job isn’t fun. Companies want brainwashed wagies that will accept fair pay and still give the job their all and have loyalty

>>53878079
>That business car pepe

Please tell me I can buy this somewhere

>>53880533
>>53880541
Nah mostly just jealous because I'm a dropout and these things aren't available to me

>>53880601
Yeah everyone says companies will say you're a red flag. But what is the disadvantage of being a red flag

>>53880601
>how you simply leave when the job isn’t fun
Why are you implying anything about job hopping has to do with "fun"? It's about money. What, do you think ping pong tables are better than a raise?

>>53880634
You are right, that people should strive to be satisfied with what they have. But that doesn't mean that they should let themselves be exploited.

>>53878335
>The reason this dynamic exists is because HR and boomer "leadership" fried their brains into thinking it's better to spend money poaching talent from competitors than it would be spending that money on retaining their proven talent to keep them from getting poached.
Amen.

Just over 5 years at the same company now. Went from 52k to 60k to 70k. Plus 15-20k per year in mileage and expenses like home internet and phone shit and a yearly bonus of 6-10k. Mix of field work and working from home, salaried, average work week is maybe 30 hours but I get a ton of flexibility like this week I'll have field work Thursday and basically nothing the rest of the week. Summer time can get busy though with 50 hour weeks depending and the longest shift I've had was 18 hours.

>>53877273
It gets easier the more you do it and it’s better than sticking with low pay and holding the bags. All the shit that’s wrong will stick to you because you were around when it happened. Doesn’t matter if you had nothing to do with it.

>>53877273
based anon.

Professional job hopper here.

Longest job i ever held was 4 years. And the shortest was probably 3 months.

Depending on the job after a year or two i start looking elsewhere. Primarily from boredom and hating routine.

Had over 16 jobs in my life.

Consistantly kept moving up.

Working for the feds can be quite a shortcut but comes with loads of shit to deal with in numerous ways.

Always keeping your ear to the ground always looking for new things and always applying for shit even if you aint qualified can end up surprising you.

Youll never know if you never try.

Mr cant never could.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/pqSzK4UOsGmd/

>jump jobs
>make 20% more at new job
>tax bracket literally Cuts that down to half, 7k
>doesnt matter wont be able to afford to buy a house anyway
Id rather chill in my current job and Grab a promotion here and there. Would also be a shame to give up my 41 days vacation
t. Kraut from socialist hellhole

Isn't it suspicious for potential employers if you have over half a dozen companies on your resume with barely a year each? Why would anyone want to hire you knowing that you're highly likely going to bounce after such a short tenure? Also how on Earth are you going to have anything worthwhile to talk about after just a year? From my, albiet limited, experience you need 2.5-3 years MINIMUM to make something noteworthy.

>>53880455

Yeah, that's the name of the game. Nobody is safe. Might as well climb as high as you can and grab as much cash as you can on the way up. Best part is that you don't have to kiss nearly as much ass at your current employer on the day to day hoping to promote. Just loot and scoot.

The real pros see the writing on the wall and bounce before it's too late. Wagie is wagie. Make the most of your situation. Or don't and stay poor. Up to you.

>>53881337

Because "companies" don't make decisions. Individual people do. Individual people are motivated by self interest, and are myopic as fuck. If you check the boxes it all comes down to "Will I enjoy working with this person for the foreseeable future?". A lot of them are gonna loot and scoot in a couple years anyway, so they really don't care about the long term.

Once you're in a position that requires a degree or similar credential then yeah, I'd say you need at least two years and some projects you "led" that you can talk about. The first jumps from cashier, to call center to Jr analyst can all be done in sub 1 year.

A lot on them just get off to the idea of poaching talent. Whether or not that's effective is none of my concern, though new hires would bring in information about how things were being run at the competition.

>>53877273
you're only supposed to do that in your 20s

>>53877300
nope - won't work.
here is what your company will do:
> increasingly make you focus on non-transferable skills
> you think you are becoming more and more critical
> ask for a raise
> they say fuck you
> you say I'll get another job
> you find out you lose your skills

lesson: only focus on transferable skills that you can use to force your company to pay you for or another company to pay you for.

> but won't they be loyal

everyone is a mutt cunt now

All it takes is one person to ruin everything at your job. I had been working for one company for 5 years, was promoted a few times, had gotten a few raises, although none of them were really any good. But I was making enough to live on, and then a new general manager guy got hired. For some reason, he did not like me, and he decided to make everything difficult or impossible for me. 5 years hard work, establishing connections, going through all that nonsense, ruined just because they hired some crazy manager guy with a higher position than me. The whole setup of modern employment is awful, you never get enough money, and with inflation rising as quickly as it does, you never get a real raise, because you would need a 5 percent raise every year just to keep up with inflation. I just don't know what to do, it seems that no matter what you do, it's all a huge game of chance. Even at big companies, making decent money, the employees are alwasy terrible. Loud, annoying, coming in high, drunk, always yelling and doing crazy shit. I feel like starting a business yourself is the way to go, even if you make a little less or you have to work a few more hours.

>>53880632
Buy? He clearly just printed it out.

>>53878079
>>53879497
>>53880632

>>53881116
This. It isn’t like it used to be in that you could stay at a company for decades and retire. The way inflation slowly (and lately, rapidly) has eaten away at every possible thing you need to function as an adult, it just doesn’t make any sense to stay loyal to a company. Especially when it’s as easy as it is to roll over your 401k and save in a Roth IRA on your own. Eventually down the road you may even have enough capital to become self employed in whatever field it is you’re in. And companies have been becoming increasingly jewish with how they simply refuse to scale their wages along with their rapidly increasing profits.

>>53877309
It feels true even in non-IT fields but man once you start getting nice benefits like purely remote working, 38 hour weeks, overtime, no micromanager, good work culture etc. it starts to really get difficult to job hop to find the same good benefits

>>53877273
https://youtu.be/HzKmtm2MI64

>>53879477
That is also true if you just stay there with sloooooow wage increases over 10-30 years. So the risk is still the same, the difference is how much *more* money you've managed to earn in that period and put aside as a reserve buffer against that same risk.

>>53877309
>The boomers at my company are probably clearing 200k with huge fucking pensions that get adjusted for inflation

This is exactly why it's true. Pensions were commonplace in the boomer era of work. Companies basically never offer pensions anymore, and to keep those salaries and pensions boomers need to fuck over zoomers.

Every year companies increase the salary rate for the exact same role that you were hired for. If you spend 3 years in the same role, your company will be offering new hires something like 10-15% more than you were offered. This is why it's always better to just find a new job. YoY the salary rate for taking a new job is always higher than the standard rate of salary raise.

>>53880037
Nice job. Doesn't it get really suspicious for interviewing companies when you do this though? I get that it works in tech because there aren't enough experienced programmers to go around (at least that's what we're told), but in most fields I dunno...seems a bit sketchy

>>53877273
I lucked out by starting my career at Publix. I get at least a 3.5% raise with my performance evaluation once a year and occasional market adjustment raises. I started at $52 per hour in 2015 and currently at $74.50 an hour.

>>53877273
Kick back with a company for 20 years and get 2% raise every few years or jump around for 5 years and get 500% raise. Choice is yours.

>>53877309
SWE are earning 200k three years out of college. Point proven

>>53877273
interviewing/ job searching is pure hell these days, Its quite literally a lottery

I don't even have the energy to apply to new jobs because I have PTSD searching for jobs during the 2009 recession and 2015 oil price crash

>jobhop
>get criticized for job hopping
>don't jobhop
>get told you don't have enough experience to qualify

not just that but applications are terrible. the roast beef HR cuntoid doesn't approach it as, "does this person have the qualifications for this role?" but as "how can we catch them in a gotcha to knock them out? how can we disqualify this candidate so we can cut down our stack of applications?" their approach from out the door is 100% hostile.
>apply for job
>they want you to take a skills test
>don't take it, get auto rejection email 2 days later
>take it, get full marks, still get rejection email but this time a whole week later
>never speak to a human being the entire time
>>53877309
boomers pulled the ladder up. meanwhile irl in modern times jobs are still trying to pay an accountant 40k. that barely qualifies for rent on the shittiest cockroach apartment in the tristate.

>>53878335
inflation is now 15% a year. even if you got a 10% raise every year you'd still be making less and less money in terms of purchasing power. the powers that be want venezuelan hyperinflation so it makes the GDP look good, but don't want the venezuelan daily wage adjustments that go with it. employers are completely delusional and mad with powertripping.

>>53880219
>giving glowing praise about your current employer, your work and how much you've learned
and this shit drives me nuts. why do i have to fellate people. i do work, i get money. a plumber doesn't need to give a song and dance to get paid for his work. you have excel files to type in, i can type in those excel files. instead we have to dance through all this cocksucking and brownnosing. when in reality everything you say can be interpreted by HR however the fuck they want to. 2 differnet candidates say the same thing. for 1 they rationalize it as him being super qualified and a great cultural fit, because they already decided they like him. the other guy they use it to disqualify him by twisting things around in the other direction.

the hiring process is utter crap. and for all the shit they pull it doesn't even work. the other day some schizo with a blog full of hitler references and talking about his mental disorders and what drugs he's on, who just got hired at microsoft, went and stabbed a random employee to death. meanwhile microsoft would never even give me an interview. so their hiring process doens't fucking work, they spend a lot of money on HR so they can play mind games with candidates, and qualified candidates are screened out for retarded reasons while they hire the next columbine shooters. do you think the candidates they rejected for that role will ever get an apology? do you think their hiring process will be analyzed and improved? no. nope. no way.

>>53881337
so alternatively, i'm supposed to waste 4 years of my life making $23/hr, living with 6 roommates in the same flop house that busboys and cashiers use?

it's not realistic.

>>53886038
You don't job hop every 6 months, but even if it's less than 2 years per role, they'll understand it if there's a clear upward progression. If you were just bombing out of job after job and making lateral moves every 6 months it would be sketchy. But there's a clear narrative in this guy's resume (even if he gives few details in the post) and it reflects well on him that he's seeking growth and opportunity.

>>53877399
>>53878079
I got the job 2/2 times i have gotten an interview, popped a half valium both times on an empty stomach. I still feel the stress though

>>53886526

Because the person making the hiring decision is looking out for what's best for them. What's best for them isn't what makes the company the most money. If all the candidates can fill out the spreadsheets equally well, then what's best for them is a person who isn't a total grump/asshole. It makes their job more enjoyable, and easier to bear emotionally.

A plumber doesn't have to have the same day to day personal interactions, so of course those interpersonal skills are less valuable. They still need to keep their work clothes clean, can't be seen spitting tobacco into the grass out front, and is expected to maintain some degree of professionalism.

>>53880037

I actually make $300k+ and my salary progression wasn’t much different than yours. Only larpers will tell you it’s easy or make fun of someone with a lower salary. Took me 15 years to get here as a non-SWE

Good luck anon

>>53887299

Exactly.

If your resume shows clear, upward promotion at each step it doesn't hurt you. It shows that you only left because you got something better/higher responsibility. It shows ambition. They see "This is a guy who's always improving himself and his skill set".

If you're leaving one burger shack for another burger shack they have to wonder what happened at the first burger shack. Even worse if you take a major demotion. That says "What the fuck happened here that nobody else in the industry wants to touch it?".

>>53889764

It's like I said in my post here >>53880219. He's only two or three more promotions from those kinds of numbers. 6 promotions to go from cashier to director.

>>53880254
>I'm a software engineer and I make 950 million dollars a year and work 5 jobs but only 10 minutes a week

>>53889764
>$300k compensation
How much of that is equity awards? I hate stock compensation, gets taxed when awarded and again when you cash it out, heavily. Honestly there's a point where additional direct compensation doesn't add much to the bottom line. Any luck negotiating other types of comp like a higher 401k/HSA match or more vacation time in lieu of more direct comp?

>>53890368
>colonist gets a tax on tea, goes to war
>modern cucc gets quadruple, quintuple, hextuple, and decaduple taxation, kicks dust and payfags to the IRS

>>53880578
I have no soft skills at all and am good at getting completely ignored and forgotten about. It has kept me out of trouble at my job but I feel this is going to be a prime source of my troubles as I get older.

>>53877273
I unironically pay a Filipina $4 an hour to apply to jobs for me every 1-2 years for the last 3 jobs and it has resulted in an average 62% increase in pay each time. Of course I update the resume each time. Always be seeking.

>boomers went to college
>graduated at 25 with a degree in underwater basket weaving
>put on their best suit
>shook that hand
>got promoted to manager within 6 months
>became an executive within 10 years just by holding down their job
>wiggity woo
I was gonna write more but basically my thinkarino is that you get 300k a year if you're a senior software engineer in silicon valley. Houses are like 2-3 million there. None of the 'good' jobs actually pay good, adjusted for the cost of everything. It's just that poorfags are even poorer.

>when does it end
When you die. Boomers sucked and fucked society and every problem can be traced back to them.

>>53883854
>>53883695
>>53886431
COMPANIES AVOID HIRING TO SAVE BUDGET FOR PENSIONS
COMPANIES AVOID PAYING DECENTLY TO SAVE BUDGET FOR PENSIONS
THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING BANKRUPT AND WILL RAISE TAXES TO PAY FOR PENSIONS
BIRTHRATES ARE CRASHING TO ZERO AND THE COUNTRY IS SWARMED WITH FOREIGNERS BECAUSE OF PENSIONS

IT ALL COMES BACK TO BOOMERS JACKING UP THEIR PENSIONS COMPARED TO THEIR PARENTS AND NOT ACTUALLY WORKING FOR IT, TRUSTING THEY COULD SCAM THEIR KIDS ONE LAST TIME

>>53877273
hey nigger, it's only stressful if you have shit skills. fucking moron. sick of you useless job hopping niggers

>>53887299
>a clear narrative
>progression
>to the next role
Genuinely hoping old man joe starts WW3 fuck you nigger it's a job not a fucking bible.

Hey I'm all for people getting as much money as they can get. But what if you didn't start life out in the debt hole as bad? IE college. That'd give you a leg up right there. Yes I know this flies in the face of everything you've been taught. But consider; your starting your working life without that fuck huge college debt bag dragging behind you. So therefore you've got more money "just there" to put back for retirement v.s punting it toward paying off college. Net result is you don't have to kill yourself as much trying to move up the pay scale.

>>53877273
It ends when you turn 40. Trust me. The tech giants only want to hire 28 year old zoomers. They think you're old and know nothing despite forgetting more than zoomers will probably ever learn before their jobs get taken over by AI. You can job hop around while you're in your 20s and early to mid 30s but you pass 35 and try job hopping and it's
>why have you only worked at company X for 2 years anon?
>anon probably has kids, better not hire him
>anon is over 35 and has cognitive decline etc
by all means do it, but when you find the job that lets you fuck about and pick your hours while throwing money and stonks at you, stick around for a bit. Before you become an oldfag. Or don't and then end up doing some BS job for your remaining golden years paying down your debts (if you're stupid enough to still have debts by then).
HEED.

OP here, I'm just going to settle being a fed. Fuck this nigger bullshit. I'll take $160k a year in a LCOL area and make it work. I really just would rather spend my time shooting guns and doing cool shit than grinding leetcode

>>53891710
just lie on your resume and be 32 permanently

>>53877273
>not give a fuck
>work for the feds

pick one

>>53891806
Fortunately for me, I have a babyface and I look at least 10 years younger than I am, especially when I shave. If I had to apply for another job today you'd bet I'd leave off the dates I graduated and some of my earlier experience. But I keep up to date on my knowledge and since I'm on 4chinz I can learn the ways of the younger folk. Life today has a way of making you feel like you're ready to cash in your pension at 40 (I'm 39 but whatever, might as well be a boomer as well as some people are concerned) but good point anon. If I have to find another job (likely, i'm in tech) I'm leaving out that I know unix and novell and other ancient boomer shit.

>>53891500
just file bankruptcy on the pension funds and sidestep the obligations. what are the old fucks going to do, quit in protest? they're already retired. fuck these greedy boomoids

>>53891849
im 39 this year and what you say is true. the companies dont want to hire above 40. im also starting to leave my D.O.B off my resume. my resume is a pack of fabrications anyway

>>53891710
Why does it feel like everything in modern society is just designed to fuck you over.
>spend years in college learning shit that should take you a few months
>spend years trying to hop to a decent job
>if you get bamboozled by a recession then they hired some kid instead because fuck you
Why does no one want to work anymore?

>>53892067
They'll hire over 60 they just won't hire you. Boomers and zoomers only.

>>53892105
maybe the only way for us 30+ year old boomers is to create our own rugpulls and scams

>>53878335
Also, why pay for training/retention of good employees if they're just going to get poached/job hop for a raise? It's a vicious cycle, once started.

>>53886431
kek, I saw an accounting position in Seattle recently. Starting salary was like $34k for a fresh grad.

>>53891525
It's not a bible, it's your life. What have you done with yours?

retire to an asian country and build a harem

>>53877273
This works for tech jobs like software dev but not every industry. I like it either way because it keeps things interesting

>>53891710
I'm 30 years old and have stayed at the same company since graduating university at 22. I feel completely trapped in it and am getting pushed into an up-or-out scenario.

I straight up have no idea what to do but I am already 30 and never hopped anywhere, I don't even know how; I bomb interviews

>>53892067
Not a financial advise start to invest in crypto and now is the time to grab a few alts boomer.
Crypto and fiat will work together
you can and spend crypto anywhere across the globe.
Start buying tokens or coins with projects related to web3 payments, AI, Privacy and security.

>>53892957
>bookkeeper job in area where 'cheap' rent is like 1500 a month for a studio
>offering 40k
>but they were looking for a full time worker, who was also supposed to be a college student
>mfw imagining some 22yo kid going back and forth commuting from campus to this 20/hr job 50 hours a week between work and commute, then having to study for their finals as well
>nigga working 80 hour weeks to make 40k a year
They told me that a student could "negotiate a better wage, later on" so a promotion wasn't even built into the position they were just going to work some college kid to the bone and then ghost him when the contract was up lmao.

>>53892968
Call people like you faggots on the internet for pushing HR-tier bullshit about "life narratives". Luckily tech companies are dumping people like you in favor of people who can actually work.

>>53893310
I've worked in places that poach on dumb fresh grads, pay them dogshit, and work them to the bone, all while waving a carrot in front of their face of eventual promotion. By the time they burn out the company kicked them to the curb, in resume terms leaving them for dead.

meanwhile boomers were welcomed in, coddled, and given 40 year careers out of the gate that could afford a house, a car, a family, and an annual vacation.

>>53893318
Well said anon rather working under some one I prefer to make my money by investing in crypto.
Complete financial freedom where I make solid money and I can spend crypto directly from any part of the world. I recently got myself a redmagic gaming phone with USDT I had and I'm making money while I play games.
Web3 is the future and I am embracing it

>>53877300
>>53880037
Gj bro

>>53881337
I've been in IT for 10 years now. Everybodys will try to fuck you at some point. Have no loyalty to you company especially if it is global. It always about the money, nothing personel kid.

>>53877299
i finally understand, boomers knew the game was rigged. they were just trolling

>>53877273
the world is a better place because of the white man.

>>53893232
I would like to give you advice, but i doubt you would heed it.
Anyhow I'll just say - you have learned enough in those 8 years that you can most likely get a real good raise by hopping company. However it depends on your situation - if your boss is cool and you want to stay, tell him you have an offer for 70k a year and ask if they can match it. Depends man, but don't feel trapped it's only a workplace lol. There is thousands of them

>>53893318
Holy fuck the seething by low iq tradecucks is embarrassing. You aren’t doing “real work” just because you are cleaning someone’s toilet. And you aren’t “earning 100k” either just because that would be your pre tax income working 100 hours a week.
I can actually move up switching jobs while earning more money doing less work because I have a degree and brains, while you have back that’s going to be broken in 10 years.

>>53893747
>if your boss is cool
my boss is a chode and treats me like I'm retarded
>tell him you have an offer for 70k
my base salary is $95k and after stock options I exercise biannually the total compensation is $110k in the Midwest

It is unlikely I will ever do better than this

>>53893309
i was investing in crypto before you even knew whatit was zoomer. enjoy your chinese spyware gay ming phone you faggot

>>53893309
RAIL, ZEC, FRIN and Azero. Anything to add?

>>53880578
What's the secret to improving soft skills?

>>53896724
Just lie

>>53877273
getting a new job every year or two is the best way to kick back you tard.
>stay at job
>get 1% wage increases every year along with more and more responsibilities
or
>job hop, instantly get 20%+ raise
>spend the first 6 months "onboarding" doing fuckall
>pick up a few new skills over another 6 months, hop to another job once they start actually making you work
its retarded but these kike companies wont learn.

>>53893318
seriously. it's no business of the company what my personal life is like. i dont want to tell them about my hobbies. who the fuck are they? and i say that as someone with admirable hobbies. i dont want my coworkers to know a thing about me. i go in, i do my fuckign job, i get paid. HR roastoids and neurotypicals try to make work into a social club. fuck off and do your job you stupid bitch. no one wants to be your friend, especially not your coworkers.

>>53898602
Fair with but how long can you keep this up? Mid thirties?

Is pretending to work as a manager more stressful than pretending to work as a regular white collar wagie? My company is retarded as fuck and doesn't give my team anything to do, but I don't want to be the one responsible for tasking other people when I'm not given any direction myself. Maybe I should just try to get promoted through some sort of "technical expert" path where I don't need to manage anybody.

>>53877273
Am about to change my job after 17 days
>got paid for feb

>>53899429
for me a lot of my work is project based, so that should help me jump around for a while but yes at a certain point you do need to settle down for longer at each one at least.

>>53899571
really depends on the people above and below you, it's a lot more jerking off peoples egos and getting them to do what they need to than actual work. If that sounds better than being a code monkey go for it.

>>53899729
It sounds awful, but I also want to continue progressing in my career in some way. I don't want my life at 25 to be the same as my life at 65.

>>53899571
Working as manager is even easier, since you actually don't have to work, you delegate work

>>53877273
It ends with AGI.

You have approximately 2-5 years until the house of cards either falls or becomes encased and gilded by post human corporate gods (in the case of Ai not being decentralized and open source)

So you’re either very free soon or the plaything of malicious real life nigh immortal super humans.

I hope that helps your existential dread

>>53900136
AGI is a meme and it wont happen in our lifetime