/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>53777760
silver is going to $5

>>53777798
>$5 silver
My body is ready

>>53777798
good imma slurp

>>53777798
Paper traders will seethe

>>53777798
>he didn't invest into numismatic silver

No counter-party risk

>>53777798
More cheapies?
>>53777814
Is your wallet though?

>>53777760
good evening gentlemen

Learn the difference, it can save your life.

What’s with all these new meme rounds?

>>53777858
this red on grey kills my eyes, which graphic designer do i need to murder

>>53777858
My wallet is also ready. I might freeze on spending until this summer. Slurping $12 oz with an $8 premium isn’t too bad.

>>53777879
That has been around for a year this version is from June last year.

>>53777860
beautiful stack

>>53777860

>>53777798
Based if true
My wallet will be ready to slurp it all up

>>53777798
I'm not worried. My stack was bought with money I could have set on fire without going broke.

Copperchads WWA?

>>53777879
put me down for 5 of these already. YARRRRR that's some fine looking booty.

Bought the silver out of one coin collection. Spent half of my tax refund on it. Here are the best parts. I've never bought Morgan dollars or any half dollars until now. Looking at buying out another that is mostly half dollars.

>>53778088
I posted my pipe haul in the old thread. It’s all the copper known other than like 2 pre 1981 pennies or whenever the American cut off was

>>53777798
Hell yes! I’m going straight into junk silver if this happens! Hopefully it happens soon. What’s the ETA?

>>53778088
copper is the metal of the future! Silver is money, copper is what runs the world.

If you're stacking lead with your PMs, be sure to pay cash
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/discover-begin-tracking-purchases-gun-retailers-starting-april

>>53778088
Each one contains $40 fv of pre-1982 cents. Those were sorted by hand 10 years ago. I'm planning on getting a Rydale sorter to continue my work.

>>53778192
I do, but thanks for the heads up, fren.

>>53778192
>If you're stacking lead with your PMs

Nah I keep my lead stack in the garage.

>>53778088
i got you

>>53777798
excellent, more just-in-case resources

>>53777798
>$5 sillver
>98
>he didn't even get dubs
no.

>>53777971
>>53778031
ty frens

>>53778126
Weathered silver. Uniquely comforting.

Just bought 10 oz of copper coins to finish my 10th tube.

Copper is the sleeper hit, bros. You heard it hear first.

>>53778234
Good work

>>53778141
very nice, YGMI
>>53778144
based panchad droppin' truthbombs
>>53778234
bigger nigger copper digger, I kneel.
>>53778256
good to see ya methfren

>>53778281
Stacking Pennys is the only way to stack copper though

>>53778314
and to you

>>53778276
I was trying to play with lighting to make it look nice. What I find crazy is that this collection sat in a safety deposit box presumably for decades. With the threat of bail ins and the FDIC being basically worthless, a bank is the last place I'd keep real money.

>>53778314
I actually have $137 fv, just need more ammo cans and to get them put in paper rolls. They all were sitting in plastic coffee cans, but I recently thought that was too unorganized.

I have a favor to ask of you all! If any of you see one of these coins while snooping around online, please post a link or point it out! I had no idea the Silver Standard Mine had these done, and i am now looking for one. Its a piece of history i would be thrilled to have!

These were minted in 1996, 50 year Anniversary celebration of Silver Standard as a company.

>>53778359
It costs a pretty penny to get a camera that can convey the beauty just like seeing it in person. I shined up a 2017 round today. I should look into what happens when coins like yours get shined up. I'm sure it's been done as an experiment here and there.

>>53778386
>I actually have $137 fv, just need more ammo cans and to get them put in paper rolls.
Dang, that's great anon. When i was a retarded teen I deposited about $50 of copper cents from the 70s in the bank, incidentally also stored in an ammo can. Still workin' on gettin' them stacks back up.

>>53778126
>I've never bought Morgan dollars or any half dollars until now.
Old coins are primo, how do you like them now that you have some in-hand?

Any updates from MintAnon on the Boomer coin??

>>53777760
https://fortune.com/2023/02/18/fbi-civil-war-gold-dents-run-pennsylvania-lawsuit-dennis-parada-finders-keepers-detectorist/amp/
Who treasure hunts and notifies the fbi of their find, have they not heard about what happens when they find gold silver treasure in the EU the governmentalways takes it , didnt know my fellow americans were so fucking dumb.

>>53778639
He posted the sample a few threads ago, I will assume two weeks and then a week or two of shipping. I want to put my hands on them.

Got a bit of a sneak peak at what King Charles' effigy will look like on coins outside the Royal Mint's official coinage. It is definitely going to be a different version, I just hope its not going to look as nasty as Elizabeth's alternative effigies like the one from the Canadian Mint.

When do gilded megumins ship???????

Hi, /pmg/. What do you think about 1kg silver bars? I am going to pick one up for $2 over spot, pretty good price. My concern is its liquidity.

In general what kind of weights do you favor and why? I think there are lots of arguments to be made here. Obviously diversifying is a good idea but I have seen people argue that you should not buy big bars until you have hundreds or even thousands of single 1 ouncers. Thoughts?

Dafuq's going off in Australia.

>>53778727
>“King”

>>53778639
No. It’s too hard for him to give weekly updates.

>>53778759
I flew there a few years ago and before we landed the pilot blessed the aboriginal people over the intercom. It was something like “as we fly over this area of exceptional natural beauty we give thanks to the aboriginal people who cherish and guard these lands amen”. I’m just smiling ear to ear because it’s /pol/ memes come to life. Have a good laugh thinking about it to this day.

One more beer, then

>>53778088
A little diversification...

>>53778816
Kek imagine worshipping petrol niggers

>>53778854
y-you paid for copper?

WHERE IS GREG WHERE IS GREG WHERE IS GREG WHERE IS GREG WHERE IS GREG WHERE IS GREG WHERE IS GREG WHERE IS GREG WHERE IS GREG WHERE IS GREG WHERE IS GREG

Ahhh, that's better

>>53778883
Sort of.
Art in copper.

>>53777866
>zero mention of central banks stealing your literal life energy via currency debasement

>>53778902
Shiney rocks are shiney rocks, my friend.

crypto nerds will seethe

>Biden and Trump debating the country's debt

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1676336396003634.webm

>>53778940
Yep!
Luv 'em all!

>>53778757
i have a couple hundred rounds probably. switched to kilos because i like the size and buying that amount of silver at a time. liquidity is a meme, walk into anywhere and theyre going to buy a kilo off you. get a hundred ounces of rounds for the barter scenario, if actually believe in all of that. i wont pay the premium jew for govt rounds.

someone is seething >>53777930

It's turns out the Norfeds I got on reddit were fakes.

>>53779210
>reddit

>>53779099
Lol and checked

who here stuffing their portfolio with platinum

>>53778854
How big is that big boy in the upper right? 10 kilos?

>>53779249
Yep. That too.

>>53779271
>in the upper right? 10 kilos?
Yep. It's this one:
>>53779003
:

>>53779003
Goddamn, where’d you find it? I thought I was the only copper lover here.

>>53777760

from last thread
>>53776602
Good shit man, Owning land is by far the best and most feeing feeling in the world

>>53779308
I got it off ebay in 2013, $124.

>>53777760
I want to fill my box. Got about twice as much now as when I took this picture, but it's still nowhere near full.

>>53779338
Just did some hand clearing on that lot today. I’m excited to see how the wildflowers do this first year. We may have a brook or very low flowing spring poking out of that quarter acre lot and if that’s the case I’m digging a pond and posting my new kookaburra with ducks.

>>53779367
Have you seen the price of copper bullion rise over the last decade?

>>53779370
Mirin, I’m looking forward to just filling my first tube with junk.

>>53777879
>>53777931

>>53779210
you deserve it
how can you trust a redditor
I hope you learned a lesson bro

>>53779388
Constitutional is my favorite way to stack. Premiums have come down recently, and it's the cheapest way to get fractional. Also helps me avoid the taxman in my state.

And hey, it's also 10% copper.

>>53779388
>price of copper bullion rise
Indeed I have. Almost triple, though spot has risen a bit less than twice.

When do we convert our metals into currency again? Or are we going into a situation where pm will be the real currency?

>>53779470
you convert it to real-estate and you become a slumlord.

>>53779380
Nice, we are on an acre right now but are moving to the new spot. Gonna keep this as a rental probably cause the other house is bigger and real close to my parents property. There is also a stream running down the center of our backyard during the winter/rainy season! not as flat so gardening is gonna be a bit more rough but the location is killer.

>>53779432
90% silver is my favorite as wells. Cheap premiums for fractional.

>>53779479
Okay but do we have any estimates on what the price would be? I know currently in venezuela a few gold coins can buy a home. In weimar Germany during hyperinflation five gold coins could buy a home. What about now? How does one even equate that sort of thing to modern history?

>>53779493
I don’t know if I’ve broken somebody’s water line or that we’ve just been blessed with a tiny creek opening at the edge of a small town.

>>53779426
redditors are lower than worm shit
kill redditors, behead redditors, etc

>>53779515
dated picture but 500 or under is a possibility

Really want a 10 oz Britannia bar but it's hard to want to pay the premium

>>53779588
>800oz for a house
THE RAGE
I CAN FEEL IT
FLOWING THROUGH MY VEINS

>>53779519
You in a mountain area? Could very well be a wash of some sort, you should put your pond right in that area! Have you gone up stream from there?

>>53779588
The $50 silver was such a coming to Jesus moment and was shut down so hard, when the manipulation finally ends, the extreme gains in purchasing power will make everyone's heads spin like the freaking exorcist.

>>53779588
Yeah but homes weren't even 50k back then, what would be the equivalent to the modern day overvalued home?

>>53779608
What makes you think they will keep being overvalued? Me think the downturn who already began few months ago will continue and get ever more drastic. All the macro indicators point toward this direction.

>>53779604
$50 hunt brother squeeze was manipulation you retards

>>53779641
I'm just trying to get estimates. Also I don't have a clue what home prices will be after the housing crash, the credit crash and every other crash happening.

>>53779641
I think that they want to purchase up the bits in the city by any means. And they like to move the squatters around them out too, restructure it to fit the needs of a proper hyper concentrated metropolis and rebuild it while trashing everything around it, that means overall it should go down. As far as you have the right or means to purchase it, not sure they’d like that either,

>>53779700
>it's only manipulation when someone else does it
>noooo stoopp you can't just accumulate physical commodities you're ruining my precious derivatives market noooooo my fractional reserve scheme nooo my futures contracts stop it stop it now

>>53778864
>>53778816
>>53778759
the abos seem sick yo, don't know what you fags are talking about. they make some awesome movies too.

>>53779700
Considering a short squeeze is only possible when far too many positions are short, I would argue that in this case the manipulation needed to be equal and opposite to the short side for this even to be even possible. Furthermore, we have no idea if the price would have naturally regressed to a 'mean price' if the market were allowed to set on its own. The regulators were interfering in this situation almost immediately, which is extremely uncanny and almost by itself indicates that those in control opposed $50 silver. The Hunt brother's lives were absolutely destroyed over this to an extent that far exceeds the repercussions that modern day market spoofs life SBF of FTX for example have suffered.

>>53778648
It was gold bullion being transferred to the US mint making it US property, and the US doesn't have a statute of limitations for manners involving the property of the state. If it did the 1933 double eagles would be legal.
It's still incredibly gay but if the guy took the gold, didn't tell them and they somehow found out they'd make a Ruby ridge incident out of him for holding a United states asset he wasn't cleared to have. A judge wouldn't dare even think to look at the guy favorably. This way there's actually a chance to make the FBI disclose something.

>>53780085
The way the durations and the quality of the portraits decrease towards the collapse always mildly unsettles me, it's like the anglo-saxon kings but in reverse.

>>53779099
still seething >>53780050

>>53778424
Older than me. Nifty. That's a pretty cozy scene. I'm after a snow scene of my own featuring some wildlife. In a sense it is a shame how many nice designs are only on PMs. Other formats would be welcome for various reasons.

>>53780703
Silver Standard was a really good company, they left my region long before i was born, and the Silver Standard mine was long abandoned by then too, but I wandered around its ruins many times growing up. It would be nice to have a piece of that place, other than the piles of ore.

>>53780728
The does sound very compelling in your case. I couldn't even find it by punching in terms or reverse image searching. No clue how you found that image. Ebay maybe? I hope you find it sooner than later.

>>53780830
it was brought to my attention by a friend through facebook, apparently the company made about 100 of these coins and sent them out to former employees though more ended up at the local community hall and vanished from there. I ll have to keep an eye open next time i am in that region.

Bump & Good night!

Pan man, can I pick your brain for a bit? I was reeing about high water last thread, but I got some view at my spots with flowing water now, while on stroller duty.
I’ve been moderately successful everywhere here (water at low water is beyond the blue line) but the spot i’ve marked in yellow should be where I ought to focus?

>>53781362
Of course this high-ish water is far from the flood conditions where gold moves, but it should not be that different flow.
There’s a chain of rocks like the one on the left under the yellow line with large gravels and pebbles behind the rocks. Oddly enough, I don’t see any signs of digging there, but it seems like no one bothers since that’s a straight part or even a bit outside bend-ish. However I got quite a good take from a similar, smaller structure 10m upstream so I figure that should be good too. However, if I start that, I need to finish it. Had it happen a few times that I start a spot and when I come back, someone else finished the job.
If it is any anon from this thread: dude! Stop it! How about we join forces? (Obligatory: no homo, I won’t murder-rape you!)

>>53781388
Now I haven’t taken a closer look at this one yet (too many other spots) but the more I think about it, the more interesting it seems. The circle is like at the apex of an inside bend (but not a very sharp one) and at low water it’s dry (concrete foundations of the bridge? Large boulders? Haven’t yet been on the other side, the baby will wake up if I cross the bridge) but should have some cracks worth cleaning. Probably with my hand pump, if underwater. And there’s a gravel bar at the yellow downstream (slack water between the two spots). Really got to try those spots too, it seems to me.

>>53779603
It’s a sloped lot alongside a curved road and at about 4 different spots there are slow streams of water coming out. We’re south of a massive mountain range that may be seeping through the spring and the slope sees a lot of water drain from further up.

Here’s my game plan over the next few months:

>broadcast sow cover crop and wildflowers before every rain (worked great with the neglected lawn we’re turning into garden and a neglected slope that I cleared a bunch of trees and leaves out of.)
>cover crop grow in dry spots while consistently wet spots fail to germinate or wash seed along the perimeter.
>come summer the spring may dry out and the lot should be established with cover crops except for the areas that were previously washed out and underwater.
Dig into the highest points of those blank patches of space and make four distinct small ponds to slow, stop, and spread the seasonal water.

I got no idea how it’s going to go but I’m currently just stoked there’s water running and my system of throwing seed at the problem is working really well. Had a four day stretch of frozen ice and my oat, turnip, and pea seedlings didn’t give a shit about freezing temps and being buried in ice. They’ve been sown in pulses since December and are currently between 1-5 inches tall!

>>53778192
>>53778239
>lead
It's actually suprising how much lead can accumulate in river sediments together with gold and other heavies (loads of buckshot and fishing wheights, but also got some bigger ones and what I believe to be battery anodes). Looked at some scientific papers and doing some back of the envolope maths I'm often way above what is considered a lot of lead in random grab samples.
>>53778757
>hat do you think about 1kg silver bars?
I think everyone should have one. Look at that subtle off-silver coloring. The tasteful thickness of it. Oh my God, it even has a hologram...
But yeah, if you're doomsday prepping, focus on smaller stuff.
>>53779249
Damn, that's a neat dildo? Where do I get one? (Asking for a friend)
>>gardening posts last thread
Damn, I really need a large garden too! Someone mentioned asparagus as a cash crop, that's actually quite clever (though they're only growing well on light, sandy soil, probably could take my fines from panning home (and get heavy metal poisoning, lot's of neat stuff in there, even naturally…)). Personally, I would save a lot of money just growing some for myself. I'm in europe, so supermarket fruits and vegetables are not actively trying to kill me like in the US, but the taste is often rather bland. A while ago I had some celery that was really eye opening. Or some beefsteak tomato I got last summer. Made a soup from it and holy shit, it was like I had added concentrated tomato taste to it (but non-artificial). Damn, now I'm hungry.

https://www.paydirt.co.nz/forums/yaf_postst768_Where-to-find-gold-at-a-river.aspx

>>53781505
Growing what you want to eat is the secret to falling in love with your garden. I’d kill for fresh okra so putting in the effort and sweat now is so much more rewarding than effectively bullying myself into eating kale.

bump

>>53779408
with crosshatched "PMG" incorporated into sail as patches (rough)

Good morning I hate (((bankers)))

The Rothshilds summoning a fucking retard to fuck with me over delivery costs (0.4% of the whole order) when I'm trying to offload my milk spotted kangaroos (they were nasty anyway) to replace with something else (not a kangaroo).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8JH9ibHXTk

>>53781543
> Growing what you want to eat is the secret to falling in love with your garden
Obviously. I grew up with a small garden, so that’s also why I miss it, I guess, but it never hurts to learn some new things.

Good morning!

>wonder why beef tallow and coconut oil aren't used in restaurant cooking anymore, as they are incredibly healthy fats
>both were removed because of one mans effort
>also tried to get rid of milk that wasn't skim
>basically ruined American nutrition as we know it, only beginning to recover nearly 40 years later
>name was Phil Sokolof
>early life senses tingling hard
>confirmed.jpg
jesus, they really can't help but ruin everything can they

>>53780070
They cornered the market, they were the market, and they made the market. They did the same thing with basedbeans earlier. They just wanted to make money. The true price of silver still wasn't discovered because the market wasn't operating normally. I just laugh when tards act like a squeeze price is a normal price, a baseline for where things should be. Strips all credibility away from anything they have said or will say ever again. Inevitably, they either hold large positions, or are involved in selling the commodity they are shilling.

>>53782979
>also tried to get rid of milk that wasn't skim
Joke's on them. I'm GOMAD whole milk + powdered milk. I'm 47 and making gains like a high school senior. My stack is making gains as well.

TL;DR
Do the opposite of what the tribe suggests.

>paying for copper
>not stealing it from construction sites
>not stealing it from the tweakers who stole it from the construction sites

>>53783352
>stealing it from the tweakers who stole it from the construction sites

Based, all is fair in love and war. Anyone have some pure copper dishes? They're unironically more rare than solid sterling dishes, someday soon plebian silverkeks shall kneel to patrician copperchads.

>>53783533
I don't think copper dishes are a thing. Cookware, yes.

>>53783564
I have plates that have historical depictions etched in copper.

>>53783628
U can find copper cups, they're popular for Moscow mules

>>53783654
ya I have a few because I’m a father of small kids and plastic is for faggots

>>53783826
Enjoy ur copper toxicity

>>53778126
what did you pay

>>53783869
have been for years since my entire house is piped using copper

>>53783887
Not really comparable. Those should get a layer of some kind of copper oxide/hydroxide/calcareous whatever rather quickly. Same thing with lead plumbing. Problems only start when you change something (cough, cough, Flint).
Still, lead is much more toxic than copper, so I’d rather not anyways and there’s a few more things that can go wrong, giving you leaded water.

>>53777798
>someone hasnt post the squirrel pic

>>53783826
Copper toxicity fag is mostly retarded, but it IS a small risk

You should use a silver cup instead, looks better IMO, actually kills germs, and makes your drink cold as shit

>>53783933
didn’t ask, don’t care. fuck off back to r*ddit with the rest of the midwits who for some reason also think they are the smartest man alive.

Which alt metals do you all stack?

>>53784108
bullets, anything else is just retarded cope

>>53783994
U sound emotional
Maybe u should write a poem

>>53783533
>[Copper dishes are] unironically more rare than solid sterling dishes,
There's a reason for rthat. Also why copper pots are lined with tin.

>>53784108
Copper, platinum, brass, lead.

>>53783994
I was supporting your point, fag! But apparently understanding why Cu isn’t a big deal is too big of a deal for you.
You sure you got copper and not lead pipes? Because lead is bad for your brain and yours clearly has some issues.

>>53784152
fuck off gay nigger
you gay ugly fag nigger
your anus has herpes

>>53784108
"Stack" to me means for the purpose of financial gain. So only the Big Three: Ag, Au, and Pt. But I also have a fair bit of Cu ( >>53778854 ), and some proper bullion samples of a few other metals (pic related), plus unmarked chunks or little bullion ingots (think buffalo pattern 1-oz avdp) of may others.

"Oh, you're back so soon. Is it the auto-zepplin again? ...No? Why are you here, human?

Oh my, that's a lot of Mercury dimes.

Human, what exactly is it you wanted me to get to work on?"

>>53777760
im a degenerate who keeps spending all of my money so think i should get into precious metals this allows me to consume and save at the same time. whats the best way to buy gold/silver in the uk and avoid vat

>>53778892

Why did jews started hoarding fiat paper and fiat digital numbers on screen instead of hoarding metals? why the change? were they losing control with metals? wanted more control on "money"(fiat) ?

>>53784557
why would they hoard “assets” they create freely without limit?

Uhmmm I fucked up guys. Uhh this is embarrassing but true. I got a decoy safe that only has a few pieces of silver in it. Some pretty nice eagles and some old 1964 half dollars. I shoved some of me and my wife’s lingerie, sex toys and… even lube in there. And the lube cap wasn’t on very good. It leaked and now safe is moist inside. The eagles are in one of those single polyester coin pouches. But I feel like the moist environment is probably still working at the coin a bit. What do anons? Are my coins fucked? Or will they be ok if I dry them off and place in new coin pouches and get the safe dry? I mean even tarnished silver still has same melt value right?

>>53784448
Thanks fren. missed you.

>>53784137
I stack
Silver
Gold
Copper
Lead

>>53783872
I don't recall the exact amount of face value that I bought. I think it averaged around 29.5x fv. The silver dollars really drove that number up. Plus there were a bunch of steel cents and common date wheat cents in the total price I gave.

>>53784647
so regular bullion you gave a couple over spot? and for the silver dollars maybe like 30 a piece? i'm in a similar situation and want to give fair prices but don't wanna pay full price either

>>53781604
den why hoarde their asset over silver and platinum lol...
> inb4
my ratio is:
silver : platinum : gold
400 : 2 : 1

>>53784591
No platinum??? Silly.
Copper? Wtf? I hope you own a copper mine or something and got metric tons of it stashed cuz that’s the only way coppers worth stacking.

>>53784732
There’s just certain copper rounds which catch my eye. I need to start stacking some platinum

>>53784751
I’ve fallen behind on my copper stripping. I have at least 30kg of wire scraps to strip. thinking of just burning it off like a bum would

>>53784779
Hmmm now I’ve heard salvaging scrap copper is a pretty lucrative side hustle. Anyone got some stories? I guess if you owned a junkyard or something and got lots of trash cars and shit you could strip the catalytic converters without being charged with theft cuz… it’s your own garbage lol

>>53784857
I spend a lot of time working around new housing construction. only good for small bits of wire and the odd pipe piece. it’s more about it not getting lost in the dirt than it is for the money. I’ve never cashed in my scrap copper and I would rather cast it into things as a hobby than ever sell it. just not the right stage of my life for that yet because of the small children.

>>53784108
>Which alt metals do you all stack?

With Tin at $26.50/kg (a year ago we broke $50/kg) I eagerly stack all the cheap scrap pewter I come across while out and about IRL hunting for antiques and cheap PMs, I have somewhere over 300lbs stacked so far. The fundamentals are strong and it's a fun safe low melting-point metal to play with, I'll sell when it goes over $100/kg later this decade. I also collect free lead found while hiking around and sometimes sift bullets to melt into bars and collect the fired brass at the shooting range but that's more just to satisfy my acquisitive autism not for profit, I believe the real money from base metals will come from pewter/tin.

what stage of empire do you think we are in anon?

>>53784914
I’ve also got autism. But I couldn’t imagine running around grabbing tin lol. I just buy stonks and metal and stack it without worrying about fancy collector features like coin errors and stuff. Nor do I melt the metal myself and do projects I just stack. Simple. And easy. Satisfies my autism just as good. And I get outdoors on long hikes without hunting for metals or valuble mushrooms.

>>53784955
Idk man it could collapse tomorrow or we’re just on our way to bug eating and pod living. They can’t keep up the charade forever…r-right?

>>53784955
22 years into a century-long collapse

>>53784955
Fuck those golden eagles. The 50$ gold buffalo coin is actually pure gold. Gold eagles are like 90% gold. Way to impure for me.

>>53785015
92.5% commonly known as crown gold. I feel the same away about it.

>>53784660
Sounds pretty close. I don't really pay much attention to spot price especially on constitutional silver. 20- 25x fv for dimes, quarters, and halves. 28-$30 for peace dollars and 35-$40 for Morgans.

>>53785015
They're 22k
Have a full ounce of gold in them
And look the best

>>53785007
There won’t be “collapse” like there was with recessions, depressions, war, shit like that. Famine only exists in modern times because there’s lots of brown people these days that can’t keep up with the modern temperament of successful whites or asians. Unless a meteorite crashes earth or a massive amounts of nukes are launched there really isn’t going to be a “collapse”. Slow and steady decline in culture to degeneracy and shit? Yes. But this will just be nonviolent perpetual misery people will be like they were in the old Charleston Heston classic “Onions green” with just a few happy people. The rest won’t have jobs. Because burger flippers and semi truck drivers will be replaced by AI. And most people will exist without purpose. That will be the crisis of the mid 21st century not the usual war/famine. All the people shilling weird ideas about ww3 or muh civil war are just tin foil hat wearing retards.

>>53781362
>>53781388
this is a fairly flat flowing river, without any major rapids, twists, turns or stopping points. Gold will be fairly evenly distributed across the bars and bedrock in this sort of flow, but anywhere the current is eddying out there should be better gold. You need a major storm surge to move more material around I think.
>>53781409
Thats a bit heavier current, fine gold wont settle here, its being transported to the next slow zone. I would need to be on the ground to actually see how best to work on this. That spot below what looks like a support pillar looks interesting, top left corner of the shot. Have you tried there yet?

>>53784573
:3

>>53785051
>All the people shilling weird ideas about ww3 or muh civil war are just tin foil hat wearing retards.

Of course anon, it's not a world war until your nation's masters say so, right.

>>53784779
Why? It’s worth more as insulated wire. Copper is unironically better to stack by collecting pipe and wire.

>>53785015
>still get a full oz gold. Has silver and copper mixed in.

Seems like the best to me

>>53785346
Are golden eagles 22k like krugs? I love the copper content of krugs over the constant fear that looking at a gold maple will scratch it.

>>53785499
>scratch
Get plastic fren.

>>53785499
They have silver and copper, Krugs just have copper

>>53780260
>quality of the portraits decrease towards the collapse always mildly unsettles me
That's because it's so easy to draw an analogy with our current collapse.

>>53785328
not when it comes in lengths of 2-6”

>>53785599
It’s fine. Just have a series of junction boxes and pigtail them together.

>>53784490
>whats the best way to buy gold/silver in the uk and avoid vat
ebay

>>53785649
something tells me I wouldn’t get an insurance payout after the fire

Just starting out should I buy a tube of silver or a 1/4 oz of gold?

>>53785684
silver is more rewarding

>>53785536
>They have silver and copper, Krugs just have copper
FYI this isn't true, despite what wikipedia or their own sites will tell you

see pic rel for a .917 with the remaining alloy all copper, it's a rose-ish gold

Krugs alloy is much heavier in copper than others, but they still have some silver

.900-.917 fine coins ALL have a varying degree of silver and copper as their alloy, only the American mint is upfront with the specific alloy composition

>t. have seen and owned a lot of old coins, wondered this, and went heavy down the rabbit hole

>>53784914
>I believe the real money from base metals will come from pewter/tin.
Smart fren. Ppl have no clue how rare tin truly is. It's actually less abundant than uranium in the earth's crust, with a ppm of 2.3.

>>53785684
Read this to help you in your decision.

>>53785684
you will likely get more bang for your buck with a quarter ounce of gold. silver is much more fractional so dealers can get away with charging higher premiums on it

>>53784569
You probably lost most if not all premium on the eagles assuming that they have lube residue on them, I'd try letting them sit in acetone and then pat dry to get it off. the 1964 halves are whatever though because nobody was paying much over spot for them anyway.

>>53785736
Looks the same as a krug

>>53785750
stfu

>>53785801
it's not, i've had both in my hands, a krug is lighter

>>53785808
You've had ample opportunity to do an alternative. The fact you haven't says it all that you have nothing to add, only dismissals.

>>53785684
buy gold silver is gay

>>53785684
Silver because fractional gold's premium is too high.

>>53783972
Copper kills germs too
Something about silver and copper being reactive to sulphide groups in proteins

>>53785829
Me 2

>>53785750
>Silver is le bad
Kys nigger.

>>53785891
that's hogwash, you could get an LMU or a sov which have approximately a quarter ounce of gold for 5-10% premiums. Silver would be more like 15-20%

>>53785936
>Spreading bullshit about me again
KYS Mutt.

>>53785684
My personal preference would be the gold, but everyone has a different conditions in life that affect what's best. Taxes? VAT? Room/House-mates? Move a lot? Plan on accumulating more?
You have to decide for yourself.

>>53785923
fair enough anon

the two i held were noticeably different, maybe my conclusions are off, but i'm not convinced they have the exact same alloy, someone is fibbing somewhere

Let's say hypothetically that the Russia crap turns into ww3. What would you want PMs-wise and just in general?

>>53786006
>trying to manipulate newfags into buying overpriced fractional Gold or low liquidity junk Gold instead of Silver
>respond with an ad hominem when I call you out
You're using the same strategy that the Gayhorse shills used to manipulate newfags away from Silver.

>>53786213
>overpriced fractional Gold
Fractional gold has the same bullshit premiums as silver but with better YOY returns and far more portable

>>53786213
I don't manipulate, I tell the facts. I've told anons like you many times in the past to get off your arse and do your own guide for noobs, but you don't because you've go no argument at all. I'm going to keep posting it and you're going to seethe over it.

>>53786140
Soviet and American coins cuz one of em is going up in price if one country glasses the other.

Are their any modern Russian gold and silver coins? Panda are the only modern commie coins I know.

>>53786048
I believe u believe it. I've noticed my 78 krug is darker than my 22. Chalked it up to toning. Would be interested to see a fire assay on one

>>53786213
Silver sisters get enraged at the thought of pepo buying gold. That's why you'll see these posts asking what to buy. It's just to le epic troll u.

>>53785595
>the (((base))) of the table

bros... where's my monday morning cheapies beatdown...

>>53785121
Thanks, appreciate your input!
>Gold will be fairly evenly distributed across the bars and bedrock in this sort of flow,
Yeah, so far virtually all cracks in this bedrock and all gravel spots have given me colors, no matter where.
>but anywhere the current is eddying out there should be better gold.
Neat. Fits what the was thinking, but of course it’s difficult to 100% get to the spot you saw under water, when the water is gone and it all looks different.
>You need a major storm surge to move more material around I think.
Yes. It should have at least a meter more of water in spring freshet, but that has been canceled the last few years. I think the last big flood was 2-3m more.
>Thats a bit heavier current, fine gold wont settle here, its being transported to the next slow zone. I would need to be on the ground to actually see how best to work on this. That spot below what looks like a support pillar looks interesting, top left corner of the shot. Have you tried there yet?
I was thinking some should work into the cracks in the bedrock/concrete at this spot. The spot below the pillar is rather deep. I only get dry ground at the marked spots. Guess I have to do a few test pans at some point.

>>53786256
>I don't manipulate, I tell the facts.
You only tell the facts that are convenient for you, which most people would call manipulation. You fail to mention that Gold is only a couple hundred bucks below its ATH or how 50% of Gold demand comes from the jewelry industry. There's very little upshot potential for Gold compared to Silver right now given that Silver is at less than half of its ATH and has a lot of industrial uses (such as the batteries for missiles) which will bolster its price more than Gold in the coming years.
>I've told anons like you many times in the past to get off your arse and do your own guide for noobs
I prefer letting anons absorb facts organically rather than spoonfeeding them my agendas and biases.

>>53786048
krugs are alloyed with copper. Gold eagles have 3% silver along with copper. Hence, the eagles are more silvery while krugs are a bit more rosy until they patina.

>>53785859
all PMs are beautiful in their own way

>>53786411
>You fail to mention that Gold is only a couple hundred bucks below its ATH or how 50% of Gold demand comes from the jewelry industry.

BECAUSE IT'S A MOTHERFUCKING NOOB GUIDE!

What in the fuck is wrong with you. Do you think giving kids a master thesis to learn when they go to school for the first time. The whole point of the noob guide is to give BASIC information and direction TO GET THEM ON THE PRECIOUS METALS LADDER AND THEN WORK OUT THE REST FROM THERE AT THEIR OWN PACE.

>>53786254
Sovs are fine for europoors. But in the US, you probably shouldn’t stack them. Though some euro gold coinage is cool like the lucky angel, so buy some if you really like them.

>>53786406
remember to check any ground thats been water washed at the old high flood mark, you would be surprised what might pop out.

>>53786511
>The whole point of the noob guide is to give BASIC information and direction
Basic information that just happens to be heavily biased against Silver? Sure thing buddy.

>>53786411
The fact that silver has more industrial applications make it less convenient as a store of value. During times of economic hardships when these specific industries slow down, the demand of silver would go down, thus making it cheaper and not a great place to have your money on during hard times.
Gold only has 10% industrial uses, that's why its a much better store of value, because 90% of its demand comes from people looking to own fancy things and saving money.
If you are investing in things based on its potential demand in the future you are better off buying stocks or crypto, not fucking metals.

I do agree with you on the fact that is not a great time to buy gold.

>>53786597
It's not fucking against silver, and if your complaint is that out of the two gold is preferred over silver then this goes back to my argument in the past that you need to do your own fucking noob guide, which you haven't. So fuck off until you do.

>>53786670
Did you even read your own 'Noob Guide'?
>Only stack silver if you have enough gold for you.

>>53786719
Yes, and that gold can be fucking zero.

>>53777760
Bongbros, just saw young head Victoria sovs on Atkinson's for under £400. Would I be a retard not to purchase? Much cheaper than anywhere else. Getting some numi goodness without too big a premium.

>about to pay my APMEX order.
>they reject my card
>it can't be a debit card, only credit
Its over

>>53787099
>can't be a debit card
That's horse shit. I've used my debit card before with them. Then I found better sights and never bought from APMEX ever again.

>>53787117
FUCK
I'm ordering from APMEX because they deliver to Mexico. So the problem with my card is probably my bank or some shit.

>>53786978
Up to you anon. That's the problem with being a numismatic fag, you pay premiums for the piece of history that it is.

>>53786567
That too. Had one of those spots a while ago. Lots of weird metal objects but sadly not much gold. Will try again at some point t.

>>53787142
>Mexico
Yeah carry on fren. Though you were a fellow burger.

>>53785655
i was looking on ebay and the prices were higher than proper precious metal websites

>>53787184
Ebay is a scammers paradise, there's too much risk buying a fake even if the precious metal content is there.

>>53787212
well im sure its fine if the sellers have good ratings but paypal + ebay fees are like 15% so the prices will still be marked up

>>53777838
This is the most profound part about stacking. We are so accustomed to paper dollars that I think we have all lost sight to what this fiat-dollar racket is doing. The banks are just imbibing ALL of the worlds' capital and resources and labor and they are moving it around with the creation of IOUs. And they leverage up their own assets and pay people interest/dividends to counteract the inflation they are causing. People basically chase after digits rather than actually acquire real wealth. It is essentially a bogus place-holder. Think about how money is set aside for the likes of insurance, pensions, social security. Think about how much borrowed money/leverage is tucked away inside real estate and stocks. We are essentially buying in to a system that is saturated with bogus IOU paper notes and all of this is going to actualize itself as big fat fucking ZEROS/losses.
Take your money and give it to Wallstreet to invest until you are 65. Invest in insurance companies that hands your money over to the government to spend. Your healthcare industry keeps you on the verge of bankruptcy unless you work until you are 65 so you can qualify for Medicare. We are on the cusp of a deflationary depression unless someone is spending massive amounts of credit which is destroying the country with credit cards, student loans, 30 year mortgages, 7 year car loans etc. It's all a farce and what is being covered up: a SEVERE lack of real wealth. Capital is NOT liquidity. You cannot operate a country based on consumption/spending and now we get to live with the fact that we are all broke.

>>53784569
>I mean even tarnished silver still has same melt value right?
can probably just polish them with a cloth and metal polish cream stuff

>>53786600
lack of silver will reduce production, not lack of demand.

copper bros where you at

Finally dried out some three test pans worth of stuff from some tiny ass gravel bar.
a) fuck, did I fuck up this pic
b) is that Mercury tainting my gold?
I thought we never had mercury use at that river and I only once had a tiny spot that looked like it on a flake so far.

>>53786600
>silver is useful in industrial applications
>silver is useful
>poor store of value

da fuck????

>>53787321
Start here:
>>53778088

>>53786256
A gazillion guides exist already you lying kike. And who needs the worthless shit you are rambling in your png?
>ur dur where do i buy gold
>teehee you buy in shop selling gold
WOAH
I'm not even mad about your biased takes, i'm mad because you think you wrote the 10 commandments when in truth it's the worse written shart imaginable. This entire png could be summed up in 2 sentences.

>>53787345
Something that’s extremely useful can’t be used as money because the market would demand that it would be consumed not stored and traded. I don’t think silver suffers from that atm, maybe if it gains more application in the future.

>>53787322
mercury can appear naturally in gold deposits, it could also have shown up in the creek by other industrial uses. You can check if its mercury with acids, nitric acid can clear it off. Do it outside! Dont breath any vapors!

>>53787388
>A gazillion guides exist already you lying kike
But not a single one of them is striped down to the basics, they're all walls of text that overload the new stacker with info they don't need to know yet, or even at all.

>>53787321
I have over 100 pounds of pennies and it is a comfy part of any stack. These materials are invaluable and the entire globes' mining capacity/infrastructure is under developed that I think it will do very well. It's also a great way to enjoy stacking without breaking the bank.
after seeing Nickel and Zinc pop off it is only a matter of time those prices move and never come back down. No matter how much the authorities want to hide it, we all know where this is going. $1.52 in copper pennies is a pound, so you might as well go ahead and multiply a pound of copper by 15-20x to find out its true purchasing power.

>>53785595
As a French, this truely hurt me to see what this inhuman shithead of macron did to the Elysee.
Fuck this degenerate """person"""

Keep an eye on the spot tomorrow lads, something might be happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4NnZPeMt24

>>53779426
Meh, r/pmsforsale is allright, I’ve gotten some legit deals there.

>>53787438
Yeah it's nothing more than a humiliation ritual to desecrate everything our ancestors accomplished.
And to funnel public money to kikes, this ""portrait"" have been bought with taxpayers' money. And for something like 200K€. These vultures are plundering us.
Wouldn't be surprised if the original painting was sold for 200€ to a rich jew and directly sent to a Tel Aviv's private collection. At our expenses ofc.

>>53787424
>striped down to the basics
Pretty sure you could make it shorter. Like i'm not sure how fudding silver is supposed to help the buyer for example.

>>53778989
kek

>>53782767
Saw those birds the other day. Before I got a good look at them I thought it was whale-themed. I've seen that theme too.

>>53787512
If I remember correctly, things are not sold but sored.
So if the next president wants to have the old painting back (which I fucking hope they do), they can.
But, hey, between theory and practice, there is a large gap...

>>53787158
I won't be going full numisfaggy any time soon, but that's not much of s premium over beet value.

>>53787512
>Pretty sure you could make it shorter.
I could, but I felt this was the sweet spot for noobs.

>Like i'm not sure how fudding silver is supposed to help the buyer for example.
Stop saying it's fudding silver because that's a lie. Again, make your own list why silver is better than gold for noobs because then you will have your ideal stacking guide.

>>53787345
Yes you double idiot. Didn't you read what I said?
During an economic crisis the price wont hold up as good as gold's price because its price is too tied to industries.

>Silver reaches ATH
>I know I know I am sorry, it's just I aint buying it until it stabilises, ahahahaha!
How do you respond?

>>53787724
I'd be selling
All of it

>>53787724
I'm not planning on selling until after I see some resolution to the bond market. If I am going to sell anything PM related, I will be de-risking my mining portfolio.

>>53787724
We had a similar debate about this in the previous thread, that buying up all the registered silver would expose the real price of silver as the banksters can no longer use future market derivatives to suppress the price.

>>53781467
Solid solid plan, I gotta plan carefully what and when we grow cause all 4 seasons hit hard. We get massive rain in the fall that washes a bunch out. Does bring flood gold down from the mines to the south of us
Having running water is a huge plus! I love AZ cause there are no laws prohibiting the collection of rainwater as well. I gotta get a few more tanks put in before i really do anything big. My list goes more water storage, bee hives (cause wild flowers grow real ez up here and are super ez to plant) then build up fencing to keep the wild life out

>>53787775
It wouldn't expose the real price, the market would be broken.

I hear the call of the numi... (but just one)
>Beaver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lQ7-tASddM
>Polar Bear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj4M7NlMvXE
>Caribou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um6ZhJ5DITc
In person, under the right light, it's like looking at starlight and constellations.
A very pleasant surprise. Works especially well with the Caribou being a night scene.

>>53787803
>It wouldn't expose the real price, the market would be broken.
Well, we all know the 'market price' is phony for a lot of things so this will be no different. Its real value will be in communities if they break the market reporting. Banksters gonna bankster.

>>53787687
>Again, make your own list why silver is better than gold for noobs because then you will have your ideal stacking guide.
But i made dozens of them back in 2019-20, who have been posted countless times. You know it because you already were around here back then. It's just that i don't feel the urge to post them.
And i don't think one is better than the other, it's up to you to decide which one you prefer, might be depending on your needs and future expectations. One have more applications, while the other is built on wide societal and legal recognition as store of value.
All i want is for this general to not devolve into a petty war of which rock is best, and many anons here agree on this, but portions of your pics are clearly trying to stir some shit.
>Stop saying it's fudding silver because that's a lie
>post 100% fud just above
bruh...

>>53787790
Sick to hear, man. Got the cleared lot sown with wildflowers, cover crop (oats, rapeseed, and turnip), and a 40 pound bag of sunflowers. Still keeping a neurotic eye on how the water is flowing but I think even if it’s seasonal I can catch the water into the pond rather than letting it wash out.

Once the roof is redone and gutters are installed we’ll have rain catchment and grey water runoff flowing into the greenhouse connected to the south side of the house. Shout out to AZ and everywhere else that don’t fuck with self-sufficiency. Can’t believe niggas are getting fined for catching their own rain for home and garden use.

>>53784226
Guns and bullets are thankfully illegal in my country.

>>53787775
If the silver prices go wild like my pic related, what's stopping coin shops and bullions deals from not buying it. The ATH in my picture was for 1 month before it crashed to earth.

>>53787908
>Guns and bullets are thankfully illegal
imagine being proud of being defenseless

>>53787917
Bullion dealers will have a metric fuckton of people looking to BUY at those prices as well. And because their inventory will likely be wiped out, they will want to restock in order to continue generating revenue. Of course there is risk, but they will have a good gauge of the amount of buyers they have at those prices. With enough time/planning they could buy large stacks and then hedge so their positions are net-zero.

>>53787879
>Image
You see, this is nothing but a wall of text that tells nothing about getting into precious metals for a noob. You even name it "Silver Ultimate Guide" and talk about the properties of silver, the ratio it is dug out of the ground and it being an endangered element. Why in the fuck would someone starting out even care about this. You just gave a kid a book about quantum physics when all they asked for was to be pointed to the start.

>post 100% fud just above
In comparison to gold. Again, do your own noob guide why you think this is wrong.

>>53787581
Whale coins? I think I saw one of those. It was about 50 dollars. Didn't get it. 2019 Canada 2 ozt?

>>53787928
>defenseless
I'm an amateur level boxer, I'm in my 30s and I've never been in a street fight in my life. Defence from what?

>>53787241
Don't do that. Use the baking soda method.

>>53787835
It would be a phoney squeeze price because you just sucked up the supply suddenly. One reason the hunt manipulation failed later on in the scheme was they took delivery, and ounces started pouring back on the market because everyone everywhere started cashing in on the price. So instead of paying the paper price to settle the contract, they were able to pay the hunts in silver. Retards got over leveraged anyway, it was bound to fail.
A more functional market that would find market value would be to cut down on the naked shorts.

>>53784569
unless your wife farted or stuck eggs in your safe, there's no reason to worry

>>53787393
Not so. The question is which use has greater demand: use as money or use as something else. Needless to say, the use for money is enormous. Half of every economic transaction in the world uses money. If silver is remonetized, the demand for it as money will outstrip almost any conceivable industrial use.

>>53788073
Use the dip method
>>53788106
It's very handy to pay for stuff long distance. At all.

>>53788001
Sounds about right. Silver, but gold plated.

I think we can all appreciate a little eagle nest live stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4-L2nfGcuE

>>53788010
Tyranny, for one thing, punchy.

>>53788135
I just wanna be a birb flying around and eating bugs. Why did god curse me with thumbs?

>>53788228
>I just wanna be [...] eating bugs
i see you klaus

>>53787241
>>53788073
>>53788118
>polish them with a cloth and metal polish cream stuff.
>baking soda method.
>dip method
Which method is best? I have some tarnishy bars I want shiny again.

>>53788245
try each and report back

>>53788245
I don't know what is in that dip, but the baking soda method turns tarnish back into silver through the magic of electrochemistry..

>>53788245
If they're just bars, I would just get some polish at the grocery store

>>53788083
You make good points. However, I'm not really into precious metals for shorting it. I actually want to see a return to sound money because I'm sick of this fake economy controlled by mega corporations who have a speed dial to the money printer. Would be nice to simply buy a house in gold and silver weight.

>space rock in shiny rock
I am finding all sorts of surprising things today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG5YKOrSrKg

A whole series it seems but the only other footage I can find is of the Panda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUn_fjrsiJk
The Germania Mint one is pretty pricey

>>53788300
Correction: this video actually shows all of them

>>53785736
I prefer my gold to be...gold.

The presentation in this one is real nice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwdGScPg-OA

>>53787117
>I've used my debit card before with them. Then I found better sights and never bought from APMEX ever again.
Are you, me?

Any fellow eBay chads buy silver there?

>>53788650
yes just depends on the seller

>>53788650
>Does a bear shit in the woods?
Yes. Any question in particular on your mind?

>>53788650
Yup, I've bought over 100kgs of silver on eBay.

>>53787212
>Ebay is a scammers paradise
Bullion dealers, almost all of them, have Ebay stores.

>>53787419
>Dont breath any vapors!
Bet you're real fun at parties...

>>53788696
>over 100kgs
Scrap-sama, i kneel..

>>53788696
Gotdamn, just a kilo at a time or are their rounds in that total?

>>53788681
>>53788691
I don’t know why anons demonize ebay so much. You get just as good prices for bulk orders of 5 oz or more and as long as you’re actually buying from a mint or someone with good reviews and sales you’re safe.

Auctions sorted by ending soonest give me the gambling rush my ex-crypto degenerate self craves.

New stacker here

>>53787099
>buying from Apmex
lol, lmao

>>53788010
>It's never happened, therefore it will never happen. No need to be prepared.
Enjoy your bugs.

new
>>53788969
>>53788969
>>53788969

>>53788454
I remember having a sticker collection as a kid. Was cool, but I outgrew it.

>>53788931
dat pamp

>>53788252
>>53788271
After a considerable amount of brain scratching, I will be going with what this Anon suggested >>53788266
Reason being dubs (checked) also metal creams and dips I am sure have some harsh chemicals as where baking soda does not and I would rather my silver stay as pure as possible. My silver is basically not taking it, the chemicals that is.

>>53785834
This pic is way older than your anti-silver trash.

>>53778663
>>53778800
checked. where can I buy them?

>>53784557
they do hoard metals for themselves (JP Morgan has the largest silver stockpile in the world)

They do fiat currency so they can do unlimited debt slavery to the goyim.

>>53787241

>>53789925
At this point in time? eBay

>>53786261
St George is modern Russian. They are pricey though. Unfortunately our dear friend at OldSilver is not able to contact anyone in the West anymore (nor can we contact him). He did send me one with my last purchase from him though, pic related. Alternatively you could stack Soviet kopecks.