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>risk free gov bonds now above 5% (soon 6%)

this kills real estate
this kills precious metals
this kills stocks
this kills crypto

if you arent 50% cash right now you are dumb

>> No.53780330

who is this whore?
>gov
>bonds
>5%
>cash
kek

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>>53780304
>mexicutie3.jpg

>> No.53780343

thats a man

>> No.53780344

>>53780304
What if i have 25% in real estate, 25% in precious metals, 25% in stocks, and 25% in crypto?

>> No.53780351

>>53780330
i thikn shes itali

>> No.53780362
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>>53780344
its over for you

>>53780337
>>53780343
>>53780351

>> No.53780402

I’m cash maxing. Took out all of my crypto back at the beginning of ‘22 and have been waiting for this. Now I just need WWIII to start so I can go into SPY when it bleeds 60% a day after Ukraine is nuked.

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>>53780362
>its over for you

>> No.53780411

>>53780402
>>53780403

warren buffet is 80% cash right now. michael burry is short

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>>53780411
>warren buffet is 80% cash right now. michael burry is short

>> No.53780453

>>53780362
>>53780337
>>53780330
I recognize her! That’s Sinaloagirl from KC /int/. She’s from Mexico. I was in a tiny chat room with her once with other >bernds
No, she doesn’t do nudes

>> No.53780454

>posting goblinas
>posting FUD
Just back the fuck off?!?

>> No.53780488

>>53780304
Did you used to post on KC int OP?

>> No.53780507

>>53780304
>risk free gov bonds
how do i buy these?
I've got more money in fiat/dollars (in my checking account) than I want to ... I'd be happy to put some of it into bonds but I don't know how to proceed.

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>>53780488
yes i did

>>53780454
>goblinas
no need to be rude

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>>53780453
>No, she doesn’t do nudes
Only if you're non-white.

>> No.53780567

>>53780537
Her nose job ruined it. I remember seeing this girl when I was like 16-17 so she has to be like 30 now and probably ugly. There was another girl on KC named Pilka from Russia. She said she liked me but I was too autistic to follow up on it

>> No.53780606

>>53780304
>this kills precious metals
I will continue stacking until the end of time, and there's nothing you can do about it, kike.
>>53780507
Fucker, buy silver, gold or invest in those new mining companies that are opening in Mexico. Don't be a retard.

>> No.53780629

>invests in bonds at the top when the fed will literally slash rates by 250 points at once later.

Lowering rates doesnt work the same as raising them.

It’s hilarious watching retards new takes on things like this when 24 months ago they barely knew what inflation was let alone rates

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53780636

Which KC tc grill is the most successful?

My money is on kit. The rest seem to be refugees, chubby marijuana junkies or have autistic kids

>> No.53780667

>>53780636
Damn you just unlocked a memory. I don’t remember too many girls but I know there was a Brit girl and an American guy who met on tinychat and I think they got married: Nikki and hedgerow.
Also, the big titty Turkish girl in London named Norah, those were good pics

>> No.53780680

>>53780636
Also some more tc memories I just had
>nordamerikano
>drunk Finnish man who always showed me his knives
>some American living in the Uk named nick (or something else) who everyone said was autistic

>> No.53780697

>>53780636
Is it a rule that these girls have to be fugly? Her head is a fucking rectangle.

>> No.53780698

>>53780629
Durr fycjubg retard, if the Fed slashes rates the value of your bonds on the secondary market go through the roof and you can sell them for a profit just like stocks. Your coupon rate on the bond you hold doesn't change just because the Fed issues new bonds with lower coupon rates at a fresh auction you fucking moron.

>> No.53780722

>>53780606
>Fucker, buy silver, gold or invest in those new mining companies that are opening in Mexico. Don't be a retard.
You're fucking dumb. Higher interest rates and a stronger dollar kills precious metals. If you were smart you would invest all your cash in bonds and use their high fixed income returns as a vehicle to buy into precious metals as they begin to turn go lower during this next wave of tightening.

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>>53780697
No, I mean these were the autistic losers that hung out on the chatroom for the /int/ board of krautchan. It was an extremely obscure place to begin with.

>> No.53780860

>>53780698

At which point it is way too late to get in at floor prices on assets. That’s the point you melt. You need to be ahead of the game

>> No.53780917

>>53780860
Too late? The Fed isn't going to slash rates until at least another year at this point with the awful inflation numbers we got this past week. You do understand that Bond prices fall when the Fed raises rates right? And vice versa?

>> No.53780928

>>53780507
You can buy them on most brokerages like Charles Schwab, minimum increment usually $1,000

>> No.53780972

>>53780304
>negative return after inflation
I guess it beats being in cash.

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>>53780771
.............

>> No.53782631

>>53780304
You are a moron

>> No.53782660

>>53780680
>drunk Finnish man who always showed me his knives
Knives are underrated in europe and america because it's cheap to replace them.
Good, sharp, knives are essential for wives everywhere else.
It's a mans job to keep the knives sharp.

>> No.53782741 [DELETED] 

>>53781144
That Clement Lasagna, the CTO of Kleros

>> No.53782783

>>53781144
Where's my money Sam

>> No.53782819

>>53780507
treasurydirect dot gov
Do not listen to the other anons, buy direct

>> No.53782841

>>53780411
Now lets see you provide evidence of your bullshit claim.

>> No.53782941

>>53780304
>>53780362
>>53780537
>>53780558
CVTE

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>>53780304
>risk free gov bond
>risk free

>> No.53782977

>>53780304
Risk free until US crumbles, either naturally economically or via WW3

>> No.53782990

>>53780453
Those pics are like 10 years old, she probably has like 5 kids and is fat now.

>> No.53783044

>>53782961
>>53782977

If we get to the point where the US is unable to pay its bonds, no assets short of guns, ammo, farming equipment, and maybe PMs will matter at all.

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>>53780304
I'm like 90% in cash right now. What's my next best move?

>> No.53783459

>>53782961
>>53783044
Its not "risk free" when its paid for by money printing. Its only 5% because inflation is 6%. You gain nothing, you are actually losing proportional ownership, its just the digits that are going up. Like a ponzi shitcoin that pays a high APY with minted tokens. Its not risk free when the tokens will just be diluted more than the yield you get.

>> No.53783597

>>53780771
Damn I still remember them.
Yeah I tried looking for Norah’s nudes but can’t find them. They were good though

>> No.53783607

>>53780304
>> 6pct
lmaooo not selling my bitcoin. sorry. I'm just not gonna sell it that's all

>> No.53783747
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53783747

They will kill economy by reducing the amount of money in circulation. Check out US history between 1866 and 1886. Afterwards they will solve a problem that they created themselves with CBDCs or what ever. Defenitly debt based money. It's a slves owners tool. Meanwhile the earths population will be reduced drastically which is the main intent. So beeing in cash and on a safe island (sbf style) isn't a bad move.

>> No.53783843

>>53783747
I’d rather be in gold and silver because that’s money everywhere. cash is for suckers and the first people to stop accepting it will be the ones who grow the food.

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>>53783843
Everyone has to pay his debt first (also farmers). And this happens in national currencies. Afterwards you are right commodities and companies in countries favoured by globohomo may be a good option. The chinese central bank is lowering its interest rates right now for example. But I think they wont let the common man participate in this market.

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>>53780411
Time in the market beats timing the market

>> No.53784337

6%? So I'll basically break even in real returns. Not bad

>> No.53784365

>>53783597
Nvm found one
https://m.smutty.com/s/ZowZs/

>> No.53784369

>>53782819
Retard

>> No.53784420
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>>53780636
Not even close

>> No.53784470
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I put the majority of my liquid net worth into 2 yr T Notes last week yielding 4.62%. Was this smart or am I gonna get crushed when the Fed raises to 6%?

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>>53780330
>>53780304
"5%" ?

>> No.53785333

>>53784470
I’ve been keeping it shorter term (<6 months) and rerolling since it’s higher and fed will prob keep raising rates, and if they cut rates other things will be more desireable

>> No.53785600

>>53784470
>locking yourself into the cuckCage for 2 years
well, i guess if you are a degen with no impulse control, that's one way to prevent yourself from wasting it all on shitcoins and fast food.

>> No.53786345

>>53784470
>>53785333
Checked. And rolling 4 week to 3 month notes is the better play. As the fed raises rates, you roll into a higher yield. The 2yr has little duration risk, and would moon (relatively) if the fed cuts rates. So all-in 2yr makes no sense. The yield curve is so inverted I wouldn't buy anything past the 5yr. And I'd overweight 1-3 month bills vs any notes/bonds

>> No.53786565

>>53783459

The nominal return is absolutely risk free, which is why government bond returns are often lower than inflation. Imagine if you'd purchased 30-year bonds in 1979 though. You'd make a handsome, guaranteed profit.

>> No.53786602

>>53780304
>above 5% (soon 6%)
>above 5% (soon 6%)
>5%
>5%
>5%
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.53786657

>>53786565
And image if you bought 30 year bonds in 2021. You'd be down like 50%. That's not "risk free," retard. Yes you can gain if inflation drops, but you lose if inflation and rates rise. Nominal means nothing because the interest is all paid with supply inflation / money printing.

>> No.53786837

>>53786657

You're splitting hairs. Real returns of all assets are impacted by inflation. Even if you expect inflation to outpace the bond's coupon rate it can still potentially be a good investment if other asset classes perform worse. The nominal returns being risk-free is an important consideration even in an inflationary environment.

>> No.53786936

>>53786837
No, idiot. Assets with scarcity will rise with inflation in the long term. Because there is more dollars against the same supply. And if you are a company, and your input and output costs rise 5% from inflation, your profit rises 5% too. So in the long term, inflation is priced into stocks too - its just short term unexpected spikes that hurt stocks.

Bonds do not recover from inflation. So inflation is a risk for them. Real returns are all that matters. If you get 5% in bonds, but inflation is 6%, you lose 1%, while a scarce asset will appreciate on average 6%.

Real return are all that matters, not fake digit nominal returns that are only high because inflation is high and money is printed.

>> No.53787961

>>53780558
cringe.

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>>53780722
>>53780722
>If you were smart you would invest all your cash in bonds
Opinion immediately discarded. Only a retard would purchase bonds in a market that is literally burning, where the only solution that doesn't involve a complete depression, instead has interest rates over the ACTUAL CPI.
The time to buy metals is now, because by the time everything stock and bond related is evaporating, the average joe won't be able to access the vaults via any legal means.
>>53780917
>The Fed isn't going to slash rates until at least another year at this point
Thats a fucking rosy scenario you're describing mate, we're going to see 8% interest rates in 12 months, assuming we don't see the stocks tumbling and the people rioting in the streets for food.
>>53782961
Based
>>53782977
All of the above, the reason this is happening is because the entire system is ruled by (((them.))) Either they'll fuck everything up at the same time on purpose, or by being absolutely incompetent by nature.
>>53784151
>The chinese central bank is lowering its interest rates right now for example. But I think they wont let the common man participate in this market.
Even if they did, you don't want to throw your money into anything chinese, the CCP is too likely to fuck you somehow.
>>53786345
>The 2yr has little duration risk, and would moon (relatively) if the fed cuts rates
Willing to wager the fed will do no such thing.
>>53786936
>And if you are a company, and your input and output costs rise 5% from inflation, your profit rises 5% too
Not if consumers are impacted to the point where they stop consuming what said company produces.

>> No.53789410

>>53787961
butthurt incel

>> No.53789539

>>53789365
>Not if consumers are impacted to the point where they stop consuming what said company produces.
impacted by what? Contrary to what most people think of inflation, it doesn't just happen out of the blue, inflation is caused by people having too much money. Prices then go up, because consumers are already spending more, meaning higher profits for companies once they raise prices to counteract that.

The reason stocks went down in '22 was because the unexpected rise in rates, but over the long term inflation just changes the amount of dollars there are against any asset, it will be priced in. If you get 5% nominal because inflation is 6%, non-dollar assets are already inflating at a base of 6%. Inflation only permanently impacts returns of dollar-denominated assets like bonds.

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>>53780411
I am 3x short as well, though it has cost me over -30% so far. Good times.

>> No.53790774

>>53780304
>risk free
LMAOOOOOOOOOO

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>>53780304
Really, nigga?

>> No.53790946

>>53783747
earths population is not being reduced. Africa is projected to grow like crazy over the next 100 years. population will stagnate as they replace populations with low birth rates

>> No.53791146

>>53790946
Let's see. There's evidence everywhere. For example the pharma industry is mixing mercury and aluminium in children's vaccinations since the 90s to chain them tothehealth system and reduce their lifespans.
>>53789365
>the CCP is too likely to fuck you somehow.
I would like to know if they really are or if it's just fud from the mainstream media. China used to be a well developed culture long before Europe. I will probably travel to China some day to get to know them by myself.
>The time to buy metals is now
Central banks are in full control of the money supply and it looks more like deflation right now. Also they hold a lot of gold and control silver producers because they need to buy and sell with dollars. Check out this guy for a analysis of the matter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTPopNG6LRM

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>>53780411
Be sneedy when others are feedy?

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>>53780507
You can buy direct from the US treasury at

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/

like the other Anon says. I personally wouldn't trust a broker or whatever because you dont really need one.

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>>53791146
>I will probably travel to China some day to get to know them by myself.
You're better off not visiting, unless you're going to be making a six figure salary off the bat in a very nice section of one of their cities where the infrastructure has proper standards.
>>53791146
>Also they hold a lot of gold and control silver producers because they need to buy and sell with dollars.
That doesn't mean shit because the entire world is emptying the comex at the speed of sound collapse. They're trying to produce as much silver as they possibly can, in order to keep the system breathing as long as possible.
>>53789539
>impacted by what?
>The reason stocks went down in '22 was because the unexpected rise in rates
Those rates are going to have to be raised above the ACTUAL CPI for a solid two years after an initial progressive increase over three years, if a realistic recovery to the trillions of dollars of liquidity printed since 08' is to be successfully reached. We all know those numbers are baked and most likely, that would call for 15% to 20% interest rates. The longer this debaucle of a battle between the FED and wall street investers goes on, the harder of a depression we're going to have. There's no avoiding this, there is no soft recovery happening where we don't see massive hyperinflation.

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>>53789365
>The time to buy metals
t.everyPMtardsensethefuckin60s

>> No.53792985

If you're in mainly cash and/or bonds right now.... after everything, with all this info available to you. Idk what to tell you, you're just fucking retarded and I'm sorry but nothing will save you.

>> No.53793027

>>53780304
Speaking of, mexican CETES are at 11%

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>>53793027
>the average inflation rate of the mexican peso is 19.2% per year
>8% YoY 2023
No thanks.

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>>53792926
Nah, pms are controlled opposition tokens. I don't want to single handed end the system. I just want to identify the future marketplace/leading country.

>> No.53793937

>>53780304
>risk free gov bonds now above 5% (soon 6%)
The US economy is about to collapse and become insolvent there is no way I trust anything but Bitcoin right now.

War bonds can get fucked, I honestly have no idea who would win in a real war between USA and Russia I therefore trust BTC more than the so called US gov.

>> No.53794346

>>53789539
>Contrary to what most people think of inflation, it doesn't just happen out of the blue, inflation is caused by people having too much money.
Not at all, inflation is caused by the currency losing value in real terms, the world has lost faith in the dollar and the American economy so the cost of goods which represent real value goes up while the value of the currency which represents the faith that the rest of the world has in the future of your nation goes down.
All that is currently propping America up is the fact that so much of the world is tied into their system that they're all on the brink of going down with them, Putin was 100% correct when he said that in the near future it will be nations who are productive and have abundant resources to sell that will be the most prosperous.

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>>53780304
>soon 6%
hey OP, come back when it at 24

>> No.53795095

>>53780304
bonds arent cash, you literally dont have the cash, why do i have to share the board with you people!?

>> No.53795140

>>53780411
>Bury is short.
In other news, water is wet.

>> No.53795820

>>53784470
Turns out this was a bad idea.

>> No.53796563 [DELETED] 

>>53780441
Source? Should I do the same even if everything is pumping?

>> No.53796690

>>53780411
Source? Should I do the same even if everything is pumping?

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>>53780304

AI is going to smash all these whores and android will replace them.

Simps will unite in attempt to destroy tech and create legislation against androids and AI porn.

>> No.53797279

>>53784470
>buying debt from someone who's about to default