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Look at the dollar index retard, 5% in an amerimutt garbage coin is still garbage

Shorting crypto. Literally free money.

>>53711613
Because it's going to be 10% in 6 months.

>>53711634
What's a better alternative that's easy to buy in the US?

>>53711697
Bitcoin

>>53711613
Anything is better than bonds the returns are trash just stick with stocks or bitcoin

>>53711713
But sometimes Bitcoin drops like 60% in six months.

>>53711749
On average up 100% per year over the last 10 years.

>>53711749
The dollar is down over 99% anon, and they just doubled the supply in a year

UBER corpos yielding 6.5% for a decade.

>>53711803
You mean the dollar is down 99% in terms of Bitcoin? It's not down 99% in terms of goods and services over the past few years.

>>53711613
>%5
>good investment

Dude your inflation is at the very least at 6% but it's actually more than double that using the old CPI calculation(which is more precise).

You may as well be poor

>>53712199
>I hated to tell him

Yes, you can buy 100 times the goods and services with what a dollar was in 1913. Heard of 'penny candy'?

>>53712240
Double-posting to mention that data is from 2013, so it's probably about twice as bad now and getting worse.

>>53711613
Can someone help?
Does this mean you get 5% in 6 months? Or is this for a whole year?

call me when the 5 year yields 5, and even then i will just default to stable coins

>>53711613
Guaranteed loss to inflation.

>>53711749
All stores of value drop 60% in a year anon.

>>53711799
>Past performance does not indicate future performance

>>53712272
bump

>>53711647
Then just buy 4 week tbills if you think that.

>>53712544
Yield Curve? Never heard of her

>>53711613
bitcoin went up 40pct already in one year dude. who the fuck is going to hold fucking scam dollars for a 5pct gains. anything under 20pct im not even thinking about getting scam dollars

>>53712922
checked
If rates go up 100% over the next 6 months like he implied it would make more sense to reinvest at 4 week intervals and ride that rate increase upwards, even if the yield curve punishes 4week over 6mo bills.

>>53711613
bump. in Tbill ETF: VUSB SHV

bumperino. Where do you fucking park your cash ? tell me NOW or i may get violent

>>53711613
Oh cool, what happened after 2007?

>>53712272
It's 5% annualized. So it's around 2.47% over six months.

>>53712233
You are a fucking retard you're being paid to keep your money liquid and ready to strike when the time is right or do you prefer another 35 percent down

>>53713445
Thank you, anon.

>>53711645
That's a position that makes people lose sleep. Even if you're right that crypto prices will go down over time, they occasionally shoot up crazily high.

>>53711613
No

>>53713421
Was hoping this was first post, disgusting it took this long

>>53711613
OIL

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>>53713766
it may be smart. wont it go down if they crash economy ?

>>53711749
Zoom out... Only brainlets buy treasuries

>>53711743
But volatility matters in addition to long-term returns. Sometimes you suddenly want cash but selling your stocks and bitcoin gets you very little.

Aren’t they are a pain to buy directly and you end up paying some (((commission fee))) to get in and out easily?

How to buy tbills? Tbill ETFs have shit (~4%) yield. Halp

>>53714147
You can buy them through the TreasuryDirect website. It's easy and there are no fees. To sell it before it matures, you need to transfer it to your brokerage first.
You can also buy them through a brokerage without using TreasuryDirect at all. The fees, if any, depend on your brokerage.

>>53714163
You can buy them directly through the TreasuryDirect website or through a broker.

>>53711749
>But sometimes
kek..... got iiiiiiiimmmmmm

>>53713795
did he die?

>>53714746
Bitcoin might be a legitimately good long-term hold. But some people want an investment that doesn't randomly lose 60% of its value in a few months.

It’ll be zero in a year lol

>>53713593
Bitcoin won't hit 40k again until after stocks capitulate and rate hikes reverse. A 1.5x or 2x short here is free money with zero risk.

>>53711613
Gold. Historic average yearly return zince 1972 is 7.6%

any futures
gas, oil, food
OP, show us your bond purchase so we can laugh at you

can you guys help a brainlet anon out.
It says 3rd party price 99.xx but surely that cant be right, these bills are sold per $1000. meaning ~5% of 1000 = 50. obviously no one is going to pay 99 fucking dollars to get 50 in interest and be down 49 from their initial investment so what am I not understanding here

>>53715524
>>53715524
You get the principal back fuckface

>>53715524
>>53715555
Kek I read your shit wrong. Check em fags

>>53715555
1000-99 to close the sale for the bond
$50 in interest after the year. why.jpg or why is that there what does that mean

>>53711613
Ibonds. 6% over the next 6 months, indexed to inflation

>>53715569
I believe that’s the price other trades happened at not involving fidelity. It’s like a market history. It’s the $/100 face they paid I think

>>53715569
Read this

>>53715619
thx m8 much better now

>>53714763
No, but it was extremely painful.

>>53715524
The price is expressed as a percent of the bond's par value, so if the price of a bond with $1000 par value is quoted as "99.0" that means the price is 99.0% of $1000, or $990.

2. Treasury bills don't really pay interest. With typical bonds, you get an interest ("coupon") payment every six months, but T-bills don't work like that. You simply receive the par value when the bond matures and no other payments.

>>53713795
Yeah, there's generally less demand for oil and other commodities when economic growth is weak.