/biz/ - Business & Finance

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the good guys win again

>>53703920
N

told you boboids it was all priced in already

why the fuck is the futures market up

I dont understand this market

Need this chad to tell me more about his peer to peer lending portfolio
>>53703896

Bears are fucking DESPERATE for a bad inflation print, which sounds a lot like "betting against America" to me. Good luck faggots, used car prices came down almost 2%. The writing is on the wall.

WOW IT TURNS OUT INFLATION IS WAY MORE FUCKING LONG TERM THAN PEOPLE REALIZED

ITS ALMOST LIKE PRINTING 25% OF THE MONEY SUPPLY IN 2 YEARS AND DROPPING INTEREST RATES TO 0% IS A REALLY FUCKING BAD IDEA

>>53703939
But Cassandra said sell, and she's never wrong

To be fair DAN said the crash would be on the 15th

they are still buying
holy fuck this much cope.. hedgies must be underwater

>being so behind the curve you care about cpi events

How do you soft land anything with an inflation that doesn't go down?

My puts will expire worthless

THEY DID IT

THE BASTARDS REALLY PRICED IT IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FUCKING FAKE PUMP
BULL TRAP

>>53703920
>BUY SOXS
>SELL SOXL

>>53703958
KEKK
>>53703960
TY SIR

>>53703952
the trend hasnt change. A bump in the road for January numbers is expected. Its winter, utilities are expensive, bjt it has been so little its bullish

>>53703958
Check the prize

what were the bots thinking? those things need some retuning

Inflation still shows lower than 6.5 last month. If we get a print >6.5 for Feb we'll get new lows

>>53703968
hope you have a stop loss

Plot twist: it wasn't actually priced in

>>53703955
You literally fucking can't. This is the same fed that was coping about inflation being transitory and the result of the "supply chain" and not the weimar levels of money printing.

We could be looking at years of very high inflation ala the 80s. Aka get into LTT now

Really, what need this fucked up market to tank?

autism market
algos said "buy buy buy"
real people said "shit, inflation 'is back' - sell sell sell"

Right anon, I bought puts STAGFLATIONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Stocks go up forever

>0.5% m/m inflation is now normal
lol, lmao even

*ssttsss*
yup
*sip*
higher inflation means higher yields on bond and divvis.
*sip*
also means more cheapies

*sip*

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>53703990
"inflation is back" That is dumb as shit anon, inflation is very clearly coming down

hot inflation is good news you chuds.

>>53703989
a target that isnt the equivalent of spx 7K eoy and bears have non 2800. nobody is taking the risk

on tradingeconomics whats the dffference between consensus and forecast?

>>53703984
> stop loss for 1% drop
zoom out

>>53703933
silly option gamblers

>>53704011
>inflation is very clearly coming down

Just shut down the stock market forever, it’s too fucked up to exist

can't wait for the open and the 0DTE fookers go nuts

>>53703920
Listen you fucking chuds!!!! Read the report!!! THE ALL ITEMS INDEX INCREASED 6.4% FOR THE 12 months ending IN JANUARY…THIS IS THE SMALLEST INCREASE IN INFLATION SINCE OCTOVER 2021…..BULLISH

WHY THE FUCK ARE WE DUMPING ON LITERALLY NO NEWS!????

>>53704022
I can tell you the similarities, they're both always wrong

SELL SELL SELL REDDIT SELL
LE CPI IS HOT!

Here is the truth. Inflation numbers and CPI aren't important anymore. We all know they printed a gorillian dollars and there would be mass inflation. The important thing is what happens to the signal created by prices to supply/demand through such a shrouded market

Prices, money, etc are meant to be convey signals to suppliers about demand. Abnormal signals create inefficient markets. The big issue coming out of markets since 2020 is how fucked or how managed this abnormal signaling is to the market. CPI is fucking smoke for retards to follow and think about.

>>53704022
one is there house internal tealeaf readers the other is an aggregator of others. the number is irrelevant, the trend counts

>>53704023
we're not even open wait for the big volume

SKYT NIGGAS...

WE WON

>>53704028
They really believe that. Don't they?

even with the blatant bs methodology of only using 2021 prices inflation is still increasing KEK

>>53703949
this is bullish

I LOVE GETTING RAPED IN PREMARKET BECAUSE FRACTIONAL SHARES SECOND CLASS CITIZEN

>>53704011
we were at +0.1% last month, now we are at +0.5%
+0.1% is fine - this is in line with 2% inflation over time
+0.5% is not, if every month we had +0.5% inflation we would have a yearly inflation of 6.168%
we also are seeing commodities rise post SPR release end - just yesterday it was announced the SPR buybacks will resume, which will push oil higher
we also have the Russian cuts + China reopening that will push oil / gasoline higher

Fuck

so much bobocope in this thread LMAO close your shorts niggers

>>53704059
lol what brand of mental illness is this?

>>53704049
Well I'm not a trader so I don't care that much. I hope you make some money today though.

>>53704066
Oil prices will not stay high once we get a drill baby drill president. Prices will come crashing down again

>>53704079
We will be lucky if we end the day flat.

>>53704028
>>53704053
>>53704066
Do you dumb motherfuckers not see the very clear decline on that chart? Are you looking at it upside down? Christ

>>53704082
you can't trade fractional shares in premarket on robinhood atleast, the order queues and doesn't hit until 9am (after the pump / dump)

>>53704048
So what matters going forward is how stable the market is after record easing and stimulus into massive interest rate changes.

Luckily people lock in rates for the long term and there is obviously a long delay mechanism. But there is still big problems in the functioning of world economies with the piling of debt, shrouded nature of pricing signals, etc

Tldr pricing signals are fucked, human behavior is short sighted in terms of say spending glut into stimulus: think California just spending down all of its excess income instead of saving/investing usefully.

Everything is WAY more fucked than the market things

>>53704086

I'm not gonna get excited until the trading day is done. For all we know it's going to be a slurp day

>>53704048
they never were. inflation means nothing for a stock that doesn't pay dividends or do value increasing buybacks. there was no value in most american stock to begin with. its all money from you and other fools that fell for a pyramid scheme

The retarder it pumps, the harder it dumps.

lol, this fucking inflation isn't defeated. It's fucking red hot, and being shoved up everyone's ass because of this senile commander in chiefs inability to fucking do fuck about fucking anything,.

>>53704093
>just wait until after november 2024
>that's when inflation will start to come down

>>53703945
Not a Chad at all. Opened the account Christmas of 2018. Needed someplace to stash cash after my divorce. I focus on debt consolidation loans that I would take out if I needed the money. Hand pick every loan. And besides the other factors I look at how much they are borrowing and their amount of revolving debt, to see if what they are borrowing makes sense. At one point I wanted it to be a major part of my retirement income. But they have no TOD so I refuse to have my balance there be over $10K.

>long but the spike didn't hit my take profit point

>>53704079
no

Market won't crash. They don't care. It's too early. They want maximum rates before they pull their money out.

>>53704098
Assume they are advertising and begging their particular thesis, the more pseudo scientific it sounds the more desperate they are trying to convince anybody to buy into their bullshit.

Just shorted CS on 10x leverage.
BRING
IT
ON

>>53703968
>A bump in the road for January numbers is expected.
All you faggots have been saying for weeks is that Jerome is gonna pivot next meeting.
That shit's clear not gonna happen.

unless the shit and piss 500 shifts to gap down a full percentage point today at the open, i'd say it looks like we're going back to a "normal" market. it literally doesn't matter if some reports look a certain way or that earnings are fucked. the market is simply being forced back to make the line go up until the next big happening. the volatility will still be there because there's money to be made on it, but i fully expect us to slowly creep up to 2021 highs by the end of the year. we're "back", it seems

>>53704093
First you get 4 more years of Joe Biden and Sheenequa Harris.

>>53704098
>he doesn't understand how yearly vs month over month calculations work

Reminder, today's #CPIdata will be calculated using updated weights that incorporate data from the 2021 Consumer Expenditure survey and reflect only one year of spending data (vs two years under old methodology).

This will create a positive (inflationary) bias on the data.

PLTR bros let us see how the volume carries us today.

>>53704128
>you get 4 more years of Donald J. Trump
ftfy

>>53704123
This. We are on the cusp of a bull market that will last into early 2024. Bears will be fucked

>>53704126
no "we" are saying that after the March 25 bepis its likely going into pause until Q4

>>53704000
Yeah. It was supposed to decline.
Mumubros getting way too cocky

>>53704107
Yes, of course investing and actually making wealth into a sick system like ours requires certain pessimism and optimism combined. Aka doombullism. That the market and institutions will not recover but predict how they will staple the wound shut to hide it a bit

>>53704127
In other words a "return to normal" you could say.

>The core inflation rate excludes the impact of volatile oil and food prices and is often tracked on a year-over-year basis. Core inflation is what the Federal Reserve is talking about when it says its target for inflation is 2%. That's the rate the bank says is needed to maintain a healthy economy.
So the inflation rate excludes.... things people actually need to live on a day to day basis? That seems like it's designed to mislead, rather than inform.

>>53704132
>(((updated weights)))

>>53704145
It IS declining you shortsighted faggots
>>53704011

>>53704126
>All you faggots have been saying for weeks is that Jerome is gonna pivot next meeting
No one actually thinks this. However, the next several rate hikes are already pic related.

>>53703945

>>53704145
I'm pretty sure it got priced in on Friday.

Tuesday February 14 2023 Actual Previous Consensus Forecast
06:00 AM
US
NFIB Business Optimism Index JAN 90.3 89.8 90.5
08:30 AM
US
Inflation Rate YoY JAN 6.4% 6.5% 6.2% 6.3%
08:30 AM
US
Core Inflation Rate YoY JAN 5.6% 5.7% 5.5% 5.4%
08:30 AM
US
Core Inflation Rate MoM JAN 0.4% 0.4% 0.4% 0.3%
08:30 AM
US
Inflation Rate MoM JAN 0.5% 0.1% 0.5% 0.4%
08:30 AM
US
CPI JAN 299.17 296.797 298.66 298

>>53704154
It was literally invented in the 1970s inflation cycle as a cope

>>53704114
>10k over 5 years becomes 30k just on paybacks+interest
Those interest rates were like 28% APR right? That's a fucking killer, that.

I'm buying puts right before the bell, DAN please help me tomorrow

>>53704165
The market heard cpi is down and is pumping hard.

>>53704143
I had calls and long positions for half this bear market rally. Don't be a retard and stuck holding this shit bag. The situation has not changed at all with massive fuckery in money systems

> doomp eet

are we bullish?

>>53704127
Monies is just flowing into shit stocks and assets (art in airports??). Wow what a great economic.

>>53704163
as if i needed another reason not to get into peer-to-peer loans

>>53704139
Holding 50 calls @ $7, it’s gonna be okay isn’t it fren?

>>53704182
bear crab

>>53703920
Why is it going up instead of down, 6.4 is worse than 6.2????

>>53704182
we hook as many mumutards as possible

>>53704183
Or retarded AI that basically returns some dumb statistical average of words.

>>53704193
first time?

>>53704172
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Eckstein
>codified by eckstein
>eckstein was born in a jewish
Ah of course.

>>53704193
I have no idea

>>53704193
It always pumps on fedspeak days and then dumps for 3 days straight

>>53704142
bet they will just eliminate him like they did to that one president in the past. that unless the goal is actually to fuck things up

>>53703948
government shilling shooting down random balloons and ayys:
>US commits act of war by bombing Russian pipeline
>Biden's Katrina X100 (ohio)
>Covid-19 found to be American Bio-Weapon
>Vaxx stats on deaths shooting through the roof (countries now stop reporting access deaths)
>All significant economic stats are lied up front then changed weeks later to horrific data

No one is betting against America, we are betting against its failing and incompintent management.

>>53704111
Eat shit and die, Baggie. Kike faggot.

>Shelter and medical care both rose 0.7% m/m
this is fine - +0.7% MoM for housing is totally sustainable, and will not cause any problems in the economy for house affordability

>>53704142
>ftfy
That would be based as fuck. Just imagine the levels of Twitter shitposting and seething.

>>53704114
How much do you invest in each loan? I stick with the minimum of $25

>>53704181
Are you brain-damaged?

Sometimes DAX pumps the hardest, then again shits the bed the hardest, kek.

>inflation fell!
>but the picture is mixed
So inflation didn't fall you're just fucking lying to me.

>>53704219
DOD and CIA leaking to media blob about their clandestine activities is very 2022 too

>>53704179
Yikes.

holy shit schizo futes just pick a direction

It's dumping.

>>53704147
That is why crypto has so much appeal. Its a straight forward pyramid scheme. Why pretending that some shitco is growing and its stock will increase by 2% because, reasons when you can get pyramid and ponzi running 100%+ daily

>>53704227
Are you not looking at the futures market? Shit is green

>Real weekly earnings +0.7% vs +0.1% prior
this is fine - this surely will not cause an increase in spending, reinforcing inflation from wage price spirals

>>53704219
That pretty much sums it up for the week

>>53704244
By a whisker

>>53704154
>>53704172
>>53704202
>Food prices might be up +100%-300% in three years but don't worry about that goyim, it's volatile* and therefore not real inflation!
>
>*there's no downwards volatility

>>53704174
Unfortunately you read that wrong (it is a cool number). Principal is paid back, loaned out again, paid back again. Net return is about 6%/year.

Is it worth it to try building up a dividend portfolio if I'm 30?

I have about $600K in liquid cash/crypto and small retirement accounts (say $30K total) already in index ETFs. I am still working and plan to work for another 3-5 years. I will buy a primary residence and pay it off during the next 3-5 years while working.

I'm considering maxing out some tax-advantaged accounts into index ETFs. It seems like I'd have to put a considerable amount of money before earning anything significant in dividends. Even $500K would only average like $1200/month and hitting $500K invested would take a while.

But I'm really not sure what else to do to earn an income from my money? My income is quite high (>$240K/annual). Aside from earning interest in a "high yield" account, dividends seem like the next safest bet - keep in mind I'm talking purely income here and not speculative gains.

>>53704238

Another moment that was shocking to me was an email from an FBI agent named Elvis Chan in San Francisco to Twitter, and they're setting up this Signal group which is going to include all the top, sort of, censorship executives at all the big companies, and it is a word document that has all the phone numbers of all these important executives. And the subject line reads, "Phone numbers" and the Word document is just called "secret phone numbers." And I'm just thinking, this is how they taught you to do it at Quantico?

>>53704251
Actually it's up by a whisker and a half

>>53704241
You don't get it. We are heading into the 30+ year nikkei crab market for the rest of our lives.

holy fuck every jewmedia trying to sell this hot print as a positive
I hate (((them))) so god damn much
how stupid do they think people are to buy into it after this print?

>>53704251
The fact that it hasn't dumped means that the market is still expecting Powell to cut rates soon. Remember he said inflation is definitely disflating and the market seems to want to pump

DXY shaky

>>53704244
>he's looking at delayed futures
retard confirmed

>>53704269
feds having shit opsec is honestly some of the funniest shit in the world

>>53704221
>Eat shit and die, Baggie. Kike faggot.
Don't hate the player, hate the game; you socialist schlong sucking double nigger tranny

>>53704280
>every correction is a 30 year bear market

>>53704244
Anon fren tradingview is 10 minutes behind

>>53704268
Yes. With 600k you could invest in aristocrats and be making 30% yields in 30 years. And that’s without having reinvested those dividends.

Bull trap day, #DAN the Man

>>53704290
you start to sound like the December pivot fags, likely the same posters.
Nobody calls or expects cuts this year, just a pause

>>53704288
Because the idea of CPI prints is to entice action they can front run then bet against
Look at december cpi. They front run the pop then dump this shit on retards. Retail is fully enthusiastic because their shitty stocks are off the bottom

>>53704288
Gotta get that exit liquidity for their paymasters.

Are you ready for the bull run, biz?

>>53704295
That is the clearest indicator about how comfortable they are in their corruption.

Again:>>53704219

>>53704268
BUY SOXS

My entire portfolio is YANG, BOIL, March-May puts and cash. 3900 by Monday, 3750 by March. Thanks for buying the top again retards

PLTR
>PLTR
PLTR
>PLTR

imagine you could of bought at 6 and sold to reddit at 40

>>53704314
This is good news for gold and oil since it's more likely than ever for DOW to tank tomorrow.

>>53704326
Oh hell yes i am.

Here we go again
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

SOXL NIGGAS WILL BTFO YA'LL BOBOS SHORTING IT. YA'LL NIGGAS SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN BEARS. YA'LL NIGGAS GON REGRET SHORTING FUTURE AI WAIFUS.

>>53704331
Let's face it semiconductors are crack in all but name.

PRICED IN
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>PRICED IN
PRICED IN
>PRICED IN
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Imagine not being short banks RIGHT NOW.
Trust is literally GONE.

CPI was hot, market is going lower, Bobo wins.

>>53703983
Nah. We will have a dip, but not as bad as last fall.

>LET'S GO DIXIE
>103
>LET'S GO DIXIE
>103
>LET'S GO DIXIE
>103

>>53704315
>Nobody calls or expects cuts this year, just a pause
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/14/dollar-eases-as-inflation-in-focus-boj-governor-nomination-awaited.html
>Money markets show traders are pricing for U.S. interest rates to peak at around 5.2% in July and ending the year at 4.9%, moving away from earlier expectations for sharper rate cuts later this year.
>expectations for sharper rate cuts later this year.
>rate cuts later this year

>>53704355

Sorry but the market is reacting to a soft inflation print because that how CNN is covering it. Don't blame me I don't write the shit

>>53704335

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>53704226
I opened the account with $1,000 and stuck with $25/loan until I hit $2k (I contributed $300/mo) then stuck mainly with $25/loan unless there was something about it I really liked, then I'd do $50. Now, if it's not worth putting $50 in, I don't invest, and will do as much as $100/note.

SOXL NIGGAS IT'S AT A DISCOUNT RN AND YA'LL NEED TO KEEP BUYING!!! KEEP STACKING UP THEM BAGS BECAUSE LAMBOS AIN'T COMIN YO WAY IF YOU AIN'T PUTTIN YO WHOLE LIFE SAVINGS INTO THIS ONE TRADE!!! GIVE IT EVERYTHING YOU GOT!!! TAKE OUT 5 MORTGAGES AND PLACE IT ALL ON SOXL MY NIGGAS!!!!!

>>53704364
>quotes and add blog that lost 80%+ of its readers in 5 years
I am not even going to entertain the thought clicking or reading your attempt at some prehistoric appeal to authority

>>53704315
>just a pause

Doubt. Expecting a bearish pivot later on this year. Powell is beyond a retard.

>>53704367
Ah yes, the algos are like "What the fuck are numbers? We've gotta wait to see what a 23 y/o journalism major vomits up for CNN after 30 minutes".

>>53704367
Hmmm yes lets trust what the news says now this time

>>53704380
soxl are trannies

>>53704362
>LET'S GO DIXIE
>104
>LET'S GO DIXIE
>104
>LET'S GO DIXIE
>104

>>53704382
lol. ok. you're retarded. the market expects rates to rise to 5.2% and then fall to 4.9% by the end of the year. this is cuts. the market is expecting cuts this year.
to extra spoon feed you
>5.2% is higher than 4.9%
>to get from 5.2% to 4.9%, you have to cut rates

>>53704379
Thanks. What were the yields like when rates were 0 after covid

>>53704280
Don't people who compare US market with Nikkei feel shame? You're comparing small island that has no way to expand with a country that has whole continent at their disposal. Not only that, US lures in talent from all around the world to their country while Japan hates immigrants.
Ehh whatever, I'm wasting my keyboard.

>>53704355
yeah i don't see this going well - fucking 5.5 predictions lmao and they even changed the methodology

>>53704384
maybe. Q4 is open ended. but assuming March is the last one until later this year, you wont expect the market to not rally would you?

<Futes

OOOOOAAAAAAOOOOOAAAAOOOOAAAAAOOOOOOOAAAAAAAA
The bell hasn't even rung yet jesus christ

BTU beat earnings. Those puts I sold are gonna expire worthless again.
The gift that keeps on giving.

I want Cathy to go bust and be forced to suck penis for a living.

>>53704397
anon your wasting air

>>53704392
>BOBOS ARE TRANNIES!!!
IF YOU'RE A BEAR, YOU'RE A FUCKING TRANNY AND SHOULD KYS!!! YOU HAVE NO PURPOSE BUT TO WORK YO WHOLE LIFE AS A WAGIE AND PUMP MY MUMU'S GREEN DICK TO FUCK UP ALL YO SHORT POSITIONS!!!!

>>53704268
that's very much in the range of what boomers use to live off REITs so yes you can do it

>>53704385
there are bots that do headlines. we call them boomers.

Why is UVXY such a piece of shit

>>53704393
it's climbing

>>53704315
>>53704382

>muh CNBC
>muh CNN
just use futures to gauge the markets fed expectations like a real man

https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>>53704411
Checked and wow rude + not very innovative

>>53704355
I need more copium for bobo to win

>>53704422
oh yeah baby.... DIXIE finna be going back to 108-110

New BoJ president incoming...

>>53704400
Honestly a bit of warm weather, something so simple, yeah probably but he hasn’t got control of inflation so will have to raise

I'm a bear, but I'm tired of this scamwick plays.

>>53704428
Here you go

>>53704423
>taking third party interpretations of limited data as gospel
could as well just read cnn women studies degree drivel then. Both are part of the same isolated group

>pathetic dump

BOBOS WE FINNA CLOSE GREEN

ABORT ABORT ABORT

>>53704444
is ur id telling me to buy soxl

>>53704421
>wonders why is a derivative of an index that itself is a derivative of derivatives a steaming POS

Unless you can time a black swan UVXY is trash

I sold sqqq.

>>53704268
if you are looking to make a dividend portfolio, you could unironically consider buying treasury bills
6 month t-bills are yielding 5% risk free, which is better than a lot of dividend stocks you'd be going after
you can buy them directly yourself from the treasury website
you would avoid market risk from the recession and still be yielding 5%
however if you are bullish, you would miss out on capital gains appreciation
>is it worth trying to build up a dividend portfolio if I'm 30
in general, the younger you are the less your portfolio should be focused on dividends, and the more it should be focused on growth
with that said, you have said that you only plan to work for another 3-5 years, so you are not a 30 going to work to 65, so it's a little different for you
if you are looking to retire in 3-5 years, then creating income streams from dividends / bonds isn't a bad route to go
just know, that on a long enough time frame, the appreciation from capital gains far, far exceeds the gains you get from dividends

OK, I'm gonna go get breakfast, I expect something massive between now and 5 minutes that completely fucks my portfolio. This is your warning.
>>53704417
The question for him, is when you're comfortably middle class like that, why not work part time? Why not sell yourself as consultant and do 3 month stints at a time cleaning up the shit that the diversity hires left behind.
That way you may outlast total burning of your neighborhood.

Why no dump on hotter than expected CPI? They had to cook the books to get this and its still not good

what a fucking disaster

>>53704396
Here's my actual returns.

>>53704444
nice get

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

YA'LL BOBOS CALLED THAT A DUMP?!?! IS THAT ALL YOU GOT??? SOXL WILL REACH $50 END OF WEEK AND IT'LL BE $150 END OF MONTH!!!! YA'LL NIGGAS GONNA REGRET BEING BEARS THIS MONTH!!! BIG GREEN BULL DICK FUCKING YA'LL BEAR ASS!!!!

>>53704413
It's not going to waste. I'm producing lots of CO2 and Methane to speed up global warming.

Every single day
And every breath I take
Every fart I make,
Every night I smell
I'll be collapsing you (modern civilization)

https://youtu.be/OMOGaugKpzs?t=33

>>53704454
Anon..

>>53704444
nibba you can just do it yourself and come up with the same sh!t if you want to get autistic.

Go take eurodollar futures and SOFR 3M futures and do it yourself then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoQq3PGtZH0

Mumu I suggest you run for the hills to make this nteresting

>>53704461
I feel nobody even cares about anything anymore

>>53704477
eurodollar futures yes
3m sofr no, too narrow

>>53704421
VIX is rigged

Truff? I'm gonna buy the shitcoin what say u?

>>53704471
look at yields. if yields had continued to fall as they did post announcement, I would be on your side. they are rising now - bonds are selling off, market is pricing in higher interest rates
across the board on all months FFR on fedwatch have also gone up
dollar is also rising, after having gone down ~0.6% only down 0.15% now
dollar and bonds are saying we go lower

We are closing at 4000 max today this is a BIG disaster

I'm waiting on Lt. DAN tomorrow

>>53704501
NIGGA EVEN VIX IS DOWN RIGHT NOW!!! IT'S A FUCKING BULL RUN TODAY NIGGA!!!!

>>53704199
>System whose output is strictly dependent on the quality of input gives me only retarded mid answers
Oh anon...

>>53704511
will you bring him some ice cream at least?

>Black Tuesday

>>53704518
vix is up 3.3% off of the lows post announcement
vix is also completely worthless now, with the extreme rise of 0dte trading

>>53704494
no choice but to start using SOFR

https://www.cmegroup.com/articles/faqs/transitioning-from-eurodollar-futures-and-options-to-sofr-faq.html

>muh 3rd party

CME rules the casino. Just suck the damn dick if you want to b!tch and moan about the table games.

>>53704421
>why is VIX going down after a CPI print against which people hedged
geez I wonder

>>53704297
That's rich coming from an ugly with a disgusting slant whore that probably has a cock. I'll beat your bitch ass. No one likes you, nigger. Kill yourself.

>>53704501
Not without another scamwick in 10 minutes

>>53704524

wtf was that futures dump?

>>53704520
i convinced my gookfu to get the hime cut, its very nice, makes me coom just thinking about it.

YA'LL ENJOY THIS BEAR TRAP AND KEEP SHORTING!!! SOXL WILL SQUEEZE YO ASS AND GET IT TIGHT ENOUGH IT FEELS LIKE A BRAND FUCKING NEW POCKET PUSSY!!!!

>>53703960
built for bbc

I told everyone about the Dow history

People misunderstand dividends and their compounding effect. Companies that grow their dividend yearly beat the S&P when dividends are reinvested. A retard looks at one of these companies and says 2% that’s nothing. However if a company raises their dividend by 10% a year (common for aristocrats) your yield will double in 7 years. Not only are you earning money on your initial investment but also on all of the dividends already paid out to you. “4% yield after 7 years that still sucks!” Now it’s 8% after 14 years. 16% after 21 years. 30% after 28 years. People see 2% and think that’s it but there is so much more to it. The entirety of my Roth IRA is an S&P tracker and dividend aristocrats

>>53704531
Your statement is invalid for multiple reasons. You should probably stop hanging around the basketball courts, their low IQ is rubbing off on you.

>>53704537
good morning sleepyhead

>>53704441
Thanks anon

>>53704464
Very respectable

>>53704523
Sure

>>53704553
F* off boomer. America won't even exist in 5.

Go big or go home.

>>53704553
I'm not paying $300 to make $1 a quarter when I can make $2.40 a month

>>53704527
more appeal to authority for a group of people that have lost a giant chunk of attention over the past years? Their interpretations get taken into consideration by less and less capital. And I said ""3m"" sofr futures is retarded, too narrow

>>53704417
>>53704459
I'm currently working and plan to continue working part-time after the 3-5 year period. However, I'd like to know I have a few K coming in to cover the bills if I decide to not work for a while.

>>53704457
I'm considering t-bills as well. Right now I utilize high yield savings which is about 4% so I haven't moved my money over yet (as I need the liquidity for right now). I'm less concerned about gains and more concerned about consistent cashflow.

> 30% after 28 years
Oh nice, how will that compare to the 300% inflation?

>>53704163
Bleh what is this? The guy at the top left and the guy at the bottom left do all the work. Let me know when they cut everyone else then I'll buy in

>>53704553
>However if a company raises their dividend by 10% a year
we're in a climate where companies are more likely to decrease their dividends anon; also what another anon said: most of the time the capital you're locking up for the dollars gained per Q just isn't worth it

if you have a huge portfolio and can allocate 50k to a single dividend stock and still have plenty to meme around with then it makes more sense for diversification purposes

>>53704553
I'd rather just buy a stock that trades at a good valuation today, than hope some ponzi economics and a decaying US dollar will eventually bring me big gains.

So we going up at open or what?

>>53704570
"appeal to authority"

WTF are you even about.

They literally run the damn casino. Holy sh!t. 0DTE hedgies ready to go up your "narrow" SOFR vag.

>>53704568
And that’s fine. The strategy I suggested was for someone looking for reliable income during retirement. It’s like having a pension but not having to put up with a shitty job for 30 years

>>53704475
There's a little more carbon in the air today
>that's my breath up there
It's the same volume gain as yesterday
>that's my breath up there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZlRX03BzeA

>>53704553
and then your company cuts their dividend and does a GE fucking your ass when you're 60 years old and forcing you to work an extra 20 years.

>>53704594
Fair enough.

>>53704589
did you short?

>>53704589
no

Did anybody create a Fidelity account, fund it with $50 and get $150 added to the account? I did, but the $150 is not reported on my 1099. I don't know d something similar with Discover Bank, but they added the extra to my 1099, so I can report it.

>>53704579
30% yield yearly is great.
>how does it keep up with inflation
Ask someone who’s been doing it for the last 30 years

>>53704333
I bought at DPO and have held all the way up and back down.

stop selling until I buy puts at open. Retards crushed the VIX 4% hahahahahaha please hold it there for me!!!!

SKYT just broke $13 pre-market

>>53704593
>LOOK AT THIS INTERPRETATION OF DATA
>ITS THE BESTEST INTERPRETATION
>READ IT AND CONSIDER IT
>GIVE MY FAVORITE ATTENTION WHORES INTERPRETATIONS ATTENTION
No

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>>53704586
>we're in a climate where companies are more likely to decrease their dividends anon
Proof? Why would someone like KO whose been increasing their dividends for 80 years suddenly stop? They wouldn’t. Same for utility giants like NEE

>divvy aristocrats and boggle head dcaers still refuse to acknowledge JEPI is the superior tool in every way with regards to payouts, reinvestment and risk management

I'm not buying shit until 3900 though.. maybe closer to 3750. Sold all my JEPI yesterday

>>53704618
+16%

>>53704606
i did and i churn bank account bonuses as much as i can and i never ever report it. i'm not doing the irs job for them fuck those fat negresses if they want more money they can tell me i owe more and ill pay it my time aint free

>>53704589
oh i'm sure, because I have a bunch of short buys queued at open and instead the market turbo shorted at premarket when i couldn't profit at all

>>53704587
I’d rather buy a company with a long history of paying out to shareholders than hope my stock pick increases in value while returning nothing to me while I hold it

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Is it safe to short TSLA now

>LET'S GO DIXIE
>104
>LET'S GO DIXIE
>104
>LET'S GO DIXIE
>104

>>53704606
why the hell would that be reported on a 1099? and why do you want to pay the IRS on some "free promo" money kek

>>53704619
ok retard keep being ignorant on the changeover.

>LIBOR will reach its final retirement on June 30, 2023. It’s critical for businesses to understand how they may be affected as markets, regulators and companies acclimate to life after LIBOR and the various transition deadlines.
>New rates like SOFR replace LIBOR
>It’s imperative businesses learn about replacement benchmarks. Regulators around the globe have developed more robust and transaction-based risk-free rates (RFRs) that are compliant with IOSCO financial benchmark standards for almost $400 trillion of wholesale and consumer products.

>>53704636
1 second early
Shamefur display

>>53704636
>09:29:59
it's over, red day confirmed

How does this happen? How does a corporation like that lose everything?
Is it just because of online shopping killing their business?
Makes me wonder how many of the corpos I invested in today will be killed by innovations withn the next decade. Feels like even investing in corpos is gambling.

>>53704619
you're retarded.
>>53704315
>Nobody calls or expects cuts this year, just a pause
this is wrong, multiple people have demonstrated to you that this is wrong with data showing positioning that has been taken on for FFR to fall by years end
>muh appeal to authority
they are pricing in cuts.

>>53704598
Why would I only invest in one company? Aristocrats are proven. They have a history of returning value to their shareholders.

WOOP WOOP

SKYT almost +19%

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I AM GETTING BRUTALLY UNHEEMED

>>53704640
Free promo money is income. And let's just say that my reasons that I don't want to be audited exceed the $100 in extra taxes that I would pay.

>>53704642
>didn’t know inflation is seasonal and housing, housing services and oil are about to increase

>>53704627
JEPI is great if your in a hurry but will they increase their dividends yearly? That’s way less attractive to a longer term investor

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

SAY IT WITH ME ANON:

HIGHER FOR LONGER

Whenever I feel confident on how the market will react is when I most wreck myself. How do I stop failing?

>he really thought hot CPI was priced in
lmao can't beat Mumutardation

>>53704640
You boomers start to sound like jehovahs witnesses.

>>53704654
happy for you anon

I TOLD YOU RETARDS TO BUY SOXS YESTERDAY
TECHNICAL ANALYSIS FLAWLESS VICTORY

WHY ARE WE DUMPING ON LITERALLY NO NEWS??

>>53704643
Just get an ETF and let people who are smarter than you rebalance your portfolio for you

anyone have the pic of the euphoric bobo over a -1%?

>>53704680
based fuck soxl trannies

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH with an H

Long oil
Long boil
Long vix
Short tech

>>53704659
if it's not reported to the IRS how would they know?

I got the same kind of deal for etrade. No problems for me. But if you're really nervous cuz you're doing some shady sh!t then go report extra income and be a good boy.

>>53704676
I an't a boomer. You're just a GME type schizo.

>>53704684
STOCKS ONLY GO DOWN FAGGOT FUCK YOUR CALLS

Soft Landing
> Soft Landing

>>53704686
Yeah, the more I think about it the more I realise I'm too stupid to buy individual stocks.

>>53704689
How's this dance for you?

>>53704720
>>53704720
>>53704720
NEW
>>53704720
>>53704720
>>53704720
NEW

>>53704639
It was not

>>53704645
in a world of narcissists reality becomes obsolete, and only who who manages to get the most of the main currency, attention, can shape it

>>53704688
Checked

>>53704705
why then do you pay attention to this random epistemic community with declining reach like if what they say was the words of god?

>>53704635
I don't need an increase in value. When I sell BTU puts, all I need is for it to not decrease in value for me to collect my 5-10% monthly options premiums.
When a company valued at 3.5b earns 500m per quarter, the sheer weight of the huge earnings makes it difficult to push down. A shareholder payout is inevitable within a few years max.

The point of buying something at a great value is that you don't need to hope for an increase. You just wait a bit and get paid out quickly.
The irony is that YOU are the one relying on hope. You've convinced yourself that the past 30 years of success guarantees you another 30. This is pure hope. Most companies fail eventually. Trends change, or business management rotates in someone incompetent. Corruption creeps in. It's an inevitability.

If you want to be a winner, buy today's winners. Buy tomorrow's winners. Don't buy yesterday's winners.

>>53704674
change what you're using to make your play, and hold longer.
if this fails, reconsider to whom you are appealing for information

>>53704751
>random epsitemic community

need I say more? 4chan is the peak of internet comedy

I shouldn't have bought puts at open

>>53704631
Wouldn't it be considered a gift anyway?

>>53704475

>>53704783
They are like a tick tocker that was once big and now, nobody really remembers their name. Attention is the currency and the boomerstutions dont have much credit left

SOXL bros..Why didnt I listen

SKYT chads, I kneel.

>>53705250
I asked if you were ready for a bull run.
You didn't listen.