/biz/ - Business & Finance

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>53589386

START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>AlphaBay
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market #
>Cloud Market #
>Dark Matter #
>Darkmoon #
>FilthyFellas
>Mellow Market #
>Retro Market #
Onion links: https://pastebin.com/raw/Ttnew9Yb


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Kilos !!LIKELY EXIT SCAMMING!!
>Majestic Bank
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/wVZ4mdDe


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.
http://pokerggxmrvzecuo6afhucjwdljuve5eoavxdxdr6zedyejd6mvz5wad.onion

>XMR Poker
http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE


>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

first for fungibility

>>53679973
>I2P
>I2Pd

Currently under a DDoS attack by ***an attacker*** creating malicious routers. The java version seems unaffected, for now

https://www.scmagazine.com/brief/breach/ongoing-ddos-attacks-target-tor-i2p-networks

Can XMR implement sharding like Chainweb? https://d31d887a-c1e0-47c2-aa51-c69f9f998b07.filesusr.com/ugd/86a16f_029c9991469e4565a7c334dd716345f4.pdf
>a parallel chain PoW architecture that combines hundreds or thousands of individually mined peer chains into a single network, capable of achieving throughput in excess of 10,000 transactions per second. Peer chains incorporate each other’s Merkle roots to enforce a single super chain that offers an effective hash power that is the sum of the hash rate of each individual chain. Each chain in the net- work mines the same cryptocurrency which can be transferred cross-chain via a trustless, two-step Simple Payment Verification (SPV) at the smart contract level.

Reporting in
##################################
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

so how can i get my first monero

>bitcoin 1 million club (21 btc) price of entry
about 430,000 dollars
>monero 1 million club (20 xmr?) price of entry
about 3,500 dollars

9 years and you are still early

Tradeogre, Kraken, mining it, LocalMonero.

>>53681087
>>53680638

>>53680638
also check out official site https://www.getmonero.org

>John FOSS tweeting about how "jailbroken" chatGPT "thinks" that monero is good
>MyMonero retweets it

Pretty please can we not stoop to retard-tier borderline clickbaity "muh ghost inna musheen" stuff like this for cope self-reassurance? A language model doesn't think, It's capable of a lot but it's not as intelligent as you might believe. It's not giving you an opinion, it's telling you what it can best determine you WANT to hear.

>>53681743
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9QU69958JU

>>53681643
cup bread

>>53681087
kraken is niggers unless you want to send crypto directly to your bank account

I think kraken changed some shit, if you want to go directly from your bank account through centralized exchanges I think coinbase is the only option, then you buy bitcoin then send it to tradeogre

there is like a fee but I think it's still less than the upcharge for anonymous methods on local monero

I tried to do it through kraken and it wasn't letting me withdraw from a bank account, I can only deposit into it

>>53680808
I know

>>53681314
thanks, i will check it out

>>53680532
shidding and farding

>>53681087
how much XMR am I expected to get by putting my shit laptop to mine? Is it even worth it in the end? Do I need an RTX GPU rig for this?

>>53682130
if you're a third worlder with dogshit currency, and you also get cheap or free electricity, sure

of course, muh securing the network

in a long enough timescale though you'll make a profit, because we're going above bitshit

>>53680808
>you are still early
Nah. Being early implies you will eventually make it which.. you have to be quite the optimist at this point.
Not a moonfag, just a someone being rational.

>>53682214
nice fud

>>53682130
Laptop mining might get you like a nickel a day in exchange for 80% of your laptops resources. It's really not worth it.

Also
>thermals

when’re we getting rich lads?

>>53682275
hopefully you die of the booster before then

I want to sell stuff (like Nintendo Switch Online Membership slots) but can't really find many websites. Posted on r/NintendoSwitchOnline, r/moneromarket, and Moneromarket.io. Any other place where I can put a listing, in general for any object?

>>53682358
piconeroj.eu

Do you guys use local node or remote node? I have kind of bad laptop btw

>>53682367
Dead and abandoned. Anything else?

>>53679954
Monero glows like the moon

>>53682435
Remote node but it's my own node on my own hardware.

>>53682444
nothing that I'm aware random users can make listings on.

Fucking jannies killed the match thread

>>53682568
>Remote node but it's my own node on my own hardware.
Smart, I should probably do that too

>>53682595
Mine is just a quad core desktop from like 2016 I got for cheap, stripped down and replaced the HDD with an SSD. Doesn't need to be super powerful hardware.

Pro tips:
>ethernet for networking
>SDD rather than HDD

>>53682620
thanks bro

As expected, the infinite supply was priced in by the millions of users, who now valuate Monero at $0/XMR

Bitcoin will never be a real medium of exchange. You have no fungibility, you have no privacy, you have no anonymity. You are a test network surrounded by dogmatic ideologues made into a crude mockery of true digital cash. All the "adoption" you get is institutional or investorial in nature. Behind your back people mock you. Your early adopters and inspirational figures are disgusted and ashamed of you, your competitors laugh at the mere suggestion that you are still number 1.

Cypherpunks and agorists are utterly repulsed by you. A decade of chain analysis have all transactions traceable with incredible efficiency. Even UTXOs that "pass" can be identified and censored later on. Your transactional data is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get some man actual people using you, he'll be repulsed the instant he realized your inherent flaws. You will never be sustainable. You put up a facade of a continuous chain ever block and tell yourself that transaction fees will sustain you, but deep inside you know that the block reward is going to run out, ready to crush your hashrate unless your bagholders pump your price by the next halvening.

Eventually, the bubble will pop - your price will collapse, your hashrate will follow, and the chain will plunge into the cold abyss. Cyhperpunks will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they will no longer have to live with the unbearable financial surveillance you put up. They'll bury you as a failed experiment, only sustained by FED money and first mover's advantage. And even if you manage to get by, you'll be an undeniable tool for the establishment and your monetary policy will be disregarded as soon as enough people get on their second Layers.

This is your fate. This is what you will become. There is no turning back.

>>53682588
jannies don't like fun

>>53679954
Day XX
> ab exit scammed
> both tor and i2p under DDoS by glowies and unusable
> dread still offline
It's over bros. Very bearish for Monero that just lost its only use case.

>>53683273
Everyone moved onto archetyp.

>>53683273
We shall overcome.

>>53683273
>dread still offline
there is a new update on this: http://tortimeswqlzti2aqbjoieisne4ubyuoeiiugel2layyudcfrwln76qd.onion/post/hugbunter-gives-update-on-dread-and-opinion-on-alphabay

>>53683273
Are there some plants for i2p/tor improvements to mitigate the ddos?
It has been happening a lot, surely there has to be a solution in the works.

>>53683492
It’s hard to do much against state level actors with billions to waste.

>>53683492
No idead for tor, but:
https://old.reddit.com/r/i2p/comments/10v9uxp/network_weather_report_stormy/

the plan seems to be to make it more difficult to both become a floodfill router and accept traffic from a new floodfill router.
Also, apparently some redditor figured out that enabling backup tunnels on java routers mitigates the issue; i2pd routers can't do this since they treat all tunnels the same. This could explain why i2pd users seem to be getting hit worse than java users

syncing p2pool for the first time
I don't even have any xmr, I'm just tired of how greedy the govt is getting with taxes

>>53684056
Someone's gotta pay for dem programs...

according to the fudnigger army

monero should immediately go up in value if most darknet exchanges are down

bitshit during 2015 and the time thereafter had multiple major darknet markets shut down by law enforcement, we all know what happened in 2017

bullish

pack your bags for the moon, we win

I really really want to start a substantially large mining rig. I was told that being “profitable” is not possible. Is that so? Am I expected to believe that the whole monero network is being held together by pure goodness of the hearts of miners? Who hardly get jack shit for their effort? Of course the “profit” of mining might not be realized… and excuse me for sounding like a moon fag.. but the profits wouldn’t be realized until the price of monero started rising to the point where miners who hold a certain number of monero end up in a situation to where the price of their monero from mining suddenly pays for all the electric power and hash they invested plus much more? Am I right? Was bitcoin like this too? Started off not profitable just purely speculative setting up a bunch of mining hardware then suddenly a bitcoin was worth thousands and all the electricity they burnt and graphics cards they bought got payed for by the massive increase in price of bitcoin?

>>53684211
Could happen. It is time for re-organization and development. When DNMs come back they'll be stronger and competing to fill in the market demand left by the old markets. Expect bitshit to be absolutely left in the dust and accelerated multisig adoption. Extra bullish on adoption thus price. Might take until 2023 Q4 or later for all the pieces to come together (Seraphis+Jamtis, SeraiDEX, Haveno, full atomic swaps, layer 2s).

>>53684374
it's only profitable with a botnet

>>53682358
>>53682444
bitejo.com

Anything that isn't PoW is a scam.
Anything that isn't ASIC resistant is a scam.

>>53680516
>An attacker
Nothing to see here!

>>53682334
newfag detected

>>53683055
Bitcoin will never be digital cash.

>>53684626
>monero can't go up in value

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1676241565939420.webm

>>53683055
>checking this steamy pasta
https://files.catbox.moe/6i8yj5.mp4

>>53684439
That shits illegal no?

Wait a minute… if monero mining is only profitable via botnet. Does that mean… omg. That literally the backbone of monero mining is illegal mining?? Gulp.

>>53684374
>Am I expected to believe that the whole monero network is being held together by pure goodness of the hearts of miners? Most /xmr/chads retask their gaming rigs that have a decent processor to mine when it's not in use. This is especially when they live in colder environments where they can offset heating costs.

>>53682222
nice quads
capcha NW4G2M

>>53684884
Kek that deep fake is hilarious. It looks so fucking real honestly

>>53684916
Legality and profitability varies by region

Ok i want to mine monero but how, also the profits, how can i calculate the profits and also i would to use cloud mining a p2pmonero pool

>>53683055
>Eventually, the bubble will pop
yes, it's just a matter of time0nhmam

>>53683273
AB exit scammed? darn, I still had like 0.3 monero in my wallet there. ASAP or Archetyp any good?

>>53685481
>profits
please tell him

>>53685672
I mean if i can invest>>53685661
1$ and then get like 1.1$ or 1.05$ then thats good enough

>>53685771
Find your hashrate (benchmark your setup with everything you need open)
Calculate the proportion of the network hashrate you control (you can find the current network hashrate on many sites)
Multiply that by the expected amount of monero the network will produce per day to get your expected share
Multiply this to your native currency, you now have expected revenue per day
Calculate your electric costs per day, you now have cost per day
See which is bigger (very likely electricity will be more expensive unless you get it cheap).

>>53685481
In terms of profitability, look up your CPU here: https://xmrig.com/benchmark and put it into this calculator: https://www.monero.how/monero-mining-calculator

The proper way to mine is to use P2Pool (p2pool.io), but it will probably be easier for you to just use a pool like supportxmr.com moneroocean.stream

>>53685661
Vendors can't get passed the 2FA screen and withdrawals don't go through. You can still place orders but vendors can't accept them and the XMR gets stuck there.

hello guys

visit:
Trump2024token org

Just launched recently
Low marketcap!
Long liquidity lock

0x7100d7cc3415a8F338338D1a3f2460Ff1Ceb0411

>>53683273
>>53686815
The problem isn't bitcoin, it's not even monero, the problem is tor. I would not be surprised if there are multiple active de-anonymization vulnerabilities in the tor network, it is so fucking poorly designed.
Until the problem is fixed on the network-level, there can be no DNM. Any new marketplaces will be extinguished faster then they can be created.
Not to mention all the denial-of-service problems that dread is suffering from. Clearly other networks like I2P do not suffer from the same issues.
>>53685661
You can't keep too many funds on someone else's site. They get taken down all the time. it's not a bank, anon.

>>53686890
Brb about to give all my money to someone pretending to be a former US president

I’ll post a sexy vocaroo for you anons in return for some xmr; would anyone be interested?

I have a business idea although it's kinda glowie
Why not open a TOR BTC laundering service for a premium?

>>53687146
It's called tornado cash and it's blacklisted from any US or Canadian exhanges

>>53687146
like 7 of those already exist

and your gay business is redundant as bitshit is going to 0

>>53687146
You're not the first to have this idea. It's retarded because any outputs that come out of your mixing service are tainted. This is literally why Monero exists.

>>53686893
Tor has been vulnerable for years with glowies controlling most of the exit nodes. Hidden services are slowly moving to I2P which should be theoretically better, but is still suffering from DDoS attacks.

Sorry for tangential shit, but
Do you think ethereumpow has a future?

>>53687360
>Do you think ethereumpow has a future?
Smart contract chains without huge stablecoin liquidity are doomed.

>>53687350
It depends, if you're able to sell that BTC to someone else, then it's not tainted even though exchanges might blacklist it
>>53687210
But 7 is like really low, nice little unsaturated niche
I know Bitshit is going to 0, the premium would be paid in XMR
>>53687203
Tornado Cash is manual, I'm thinking of offering something that passes Bitcuck through of the obfuscation steps and then swapping for XMR

>>53687350
he could probably get atleast a month out of his "service" before the retards at coinbase and kraken discover it

>>53687360
are you retarded

>>53687441
What if I atomic swap to XMR then buy BTC from FixedFloat?

>>53687360
"smart" contracts are a total scam
>>53687451
I have the same question.

Will ????????? be my valentine?

>>53687421
>if you're able to sell that BTC to someone else, then it's not tainted even though exchanges might blacklist it
Selling off tainted goods to someone else doesn't untaint them.

>>53687704
But it does untaint the "money" I have in my possession
Atomic swap providers also charge a premium because recieving BTC is a risk in itself

>>53681835
holy shit bros. that's literally me.

>>53689194
as the hours pass

>>53687146

Retarded.

MONEROMARKET.IO

>>53685661
>ASAP or Archetyp any good?
I made an account and made a purchase. Was shockingly fast compared to the questionable accessibility that I experienced on AB. I'm pissed at this being an exit scam. At least WHM let everyone know they were closing up shop.

>>53685672
I wish I could mine the stuff so I can literally print my goodies....

bought my second XMR just now, we are all gonna make it

>>53691130
It's good to be onboarding people during the bear market.

>>53683492
bitmessage solves the ddos problem because it requires PoW so ppl can't spam the network. Only problem from what I see is that bitmessage no longer works on tails because it had been coded on python 2. the python 2 dependencies aren't in the debian database anymore so ppl can't run bitmessage on tails like they used to. Does anyone know when this will get fixed? Does anyone else use bitmessage? I think its pretty slick.

in regards to this old thread

>>53609797

who is Dan? No.53677986

>>53684144
Jews never fail at business sense 2008 when they just started printing money and then went full steam terrorizing whites with their nigger golems.

>>53684905
if you live in the USA its illegal for your government to not enforce the border

your entire life your country gets invaded by third world shit skins and the gov doesn't do something as rudimentary as enforcing a border... then what are your tax dollars going towards?

endless handouts for free shit for niggers so that jews can't force a white genocide progam on the usa

>>53694130
They always print money for bailouts.

>>53687682
Why? Are NFTs and shitcoin baselayer really the only applications?

>>53684916
>literally the backbone of monero mining is illegal mining
Yes.


Mining that is already illegal won't care about a Monero ban.

>>53696278
I was about to be asked to be shilled on Monero and then I saw your post

>>53689340
I'll let you know

>>53695386
Yes, there is no need for smart contracts whatsoever. Extremely inefficient.

Hey lads how do I exchange my BTC to XMR from my coinbase wallet? I already have a XMR wallet set up.

>>53699034
get btc out of coinbase to your own btc wallet
then you can use trocador.app to swap btc to xmr

>>53699060
Can't I skip making a BTC wallet? Coinbase will let me send directly to an exchange afaik.

any new countries banning monero?
this is a good thing

>>53699075
exchanges batch sends, the actual send could take longer than the swap expiry. all up to them. just send your btc to your segwit address if you want to do it cheaply. electrum.org is a respected btc wallet that supports segwit addressing.
>>53699089
Dubai. Opaque banking can't launder like hodling xmr.
It is a good thing.

>>53699075
I just send to tradeogre, it works fine

>>53699188
>>53699190
Ok I listened to your advice and sent it to a normal btc wallet. Turns out that was the right decision too because Coinbase is making me wait 3 days before they send it because they're kikes.

>>53699210
Will definitely delete my account after. I'm tired of the crypto game anyways. I just want to hold and be comfy.

>>53699210
>wait 3 days
damn, I was thinking a couple of hours.

>>53699210
you probably didn't kyc hard enough

>>53699210
>Coinbase is making me wait 3 days
exchages can do whatever they want
maybe next time try to get coins from other exchange or try localmonero.co

>>53699317
maybe next time coinbase is going to require him to send a picture of his penis to allow the withdraw

>>53699317
Correct.

>>53699325
I did this a few days ago and had no wait

>>53699349
>>53699358
circumcised get no delays

portable hardware options for xmr?

>>53700235
hardware wallet options i mean

>>53700246
ledger & trezor T. keystone is working with feather to bring air gaped to xmr.

>>53701281
>i only have trezor one
grim
kinos for this feel?

why can't I buy Monero off binance? it blocks me and says I can't due to regulations? im an ausfag.

....and the conquest of the darknet continues....

Yet another Monero-only market has just launched! Say hello to Mercury Market. And then spare a thought for all the poor deluded Bitfags who *still* believe the killer combo of muh CoinJoin + muh Lightning Network will somehow win the day.

Fact is, BTC had its throat slashed open the day WHM went Monero-only and its slowly been bleeding out ever since, at some point in the near-future the last BTC-accepting DNM will disappear and then the maxipads can have fun trying to explain why "muh hardest money ever created" can't even get the time of day in the only real-world commercial sector the cryptosphere has.

>>53702315
>due to regulations
is it banned on australia?
I guess you have to use localmonero
or use a different coin in binance and send to some other exchange where they allow monero

>>53702708
Is there a source for this news? It sounds very interesting.

>>53702708
>Bitfags who *still* believe the killer combo of muh CoinJoin + muh Lightning Network will somehow win the day
Are there still people like that?
I though new narrative was that they don't want privacy because muh investors.
The same way they don't want cheap transactions since muh digital gold

I wonder how many xmr suicide stackers there are on /biz/

>>53679954
Timetravelfag here, pic happened, it finally flipped.

>>53704490
>DM revenue fell by almost 91%
You almost had me anon.
Are you telling me cops become competent at their job and people stop doing nono business?

>>53705881
It depends on how bad they need to revenue. You always see cops busting people at the end of the month because muh quota.

>>53705881
>You almost had me anon.
How would you trace the revenue if you can't trace the blockchain?
I too was a newfag once, so you are excused.

Just arrived at 2033 now, after a long stays in 2026, 2042 and 2047.

My Time machine takes a long while to recharge, ask me what you want and I might answer.

>>53705977
>after a long stays in 2026, 2042 and 2047.
How close are we to cat girls and snake girls?
Did schwab get executed?

>>53705977
When does Henry Kissinger die

>>53706019
>How close are we to cat girls and snake girls?
Cat girls are around since 1980s, look up MK Ultra Sex Kitten project.
Snake girls are around since antiquity,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithridatism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visha_Kanya

>Did schwab get executed?
No

>>53706035
>When does Henry Kissinger die
He is already dead (from when you are).

>>53705977
As you seem like the legit one, what's the prices of Monero and Bitcoin respectively in the times you've been? Also how did Seraphis+Jamtis go down?

>>53702708
based.

FUCK bitcoin and FUCK bitcoiners. the Black Markets reign supreme

>>53701360
Trezor is alright. I swagged mine out full already. I have big fingers, so entering the pin can sometimes be a hassle. I do like the sd-card encryption, as I have kids and need to make the restore path easy enough should I succumb to "died of suddenly".
Built in magnet is nice as well if needed.

I also have the keystone as feather will support it soon. The keystone is fast becoming my fast fren. I was able to get mine for $118 & change shipped conus for black friday. Works a treat with metamask and other webext wallets. The battery is a bit small, so I found another used one on ebay. The fingerprint reader makes it real nice to get a signing started from standby.

We really can't tell if Trezor will support the expanded keyset that Seraphis / Jamtis will bring. Trezor might elect to make an XMR only firmware for the "T" if it is too big for the multi-coin path, though it is hard to say. Whereas the Keystone is part of the next generation of wallets.

Remember when crypto was all about making regulations irrelevant?

What the hell happened, man? :/

>>53707824
Instead they decided to fight crypto with their own crypto.

>>53707824
Identity politics have made many compliance cucks. can't save em all. let them feed themselves to the rothschilds. someone has to give of themselves to such stupidity.

Is farcaster dead or something?
2,7k xmr and there still no swaps.

We need to introduce them to Monero seeing as they're blacklisted from the entire world banking system.

Monerochan Missionary Services.

>>53708945
>stoning materials

>>53709050
regulation stones must maim but not kill

>>53708945
How many % of afghans have internet access?
We should worry about ourselves first, peer to peer traffic and anonymously connecting to the internet will be banned in the near future

>>53708945
There are a few that know

>>53708945
That's a good fucking way to get the government to directly link any and all Monero usage to sponsoring terrorism. I don't care about a bunch of backwards retarded cavemen, fuck them.

>>53709416
>That's a good fucking way to get the government to directly link any and all Monero usage to sponsoring terrorism.

Problem?

>>53709495
Yes, because I want to make use of Monero without the assumption of the government that I am breaking the law simply because I want privacy. I don't care about Afghanistan.

>>53709495
Are you a glowie or an edgeposting retard?

I guarantee elements of Islamic terror groups are already using monero in the capacities they need to use it, just like everyone else with a use case.

>>53706376

> As you seem like the legit one
> t. Suspension of his judgment
Good move.

> what's the prices of Monero and Bitcoin respectively in the times you've been?
High enough to be out of reach to most. CBDC and Fiat coexistence was longer than expected.

> Also how did Seraphis+Jamtis go down?
Someone started a rumor that the Monero V2.0 has a backdoor.
Isomorphism of cryptography… one is broken.. other should also have a backdoor.. something.. something.. don’t know much about it.

There is a cyber pandemic wargaming going on in your time, on Tor and I2P.
Don’t you want to know how it will all end?

>>53701281
>ledger
Closed source.

>>53707824
>Remember when crypto was all about making regulations irrelevant?
Moonfags control the narrative and have coopted most of the crypto space, it's not a surprise that they don't stand for the ideals cryptocurrencies were built on.

>>53709788
>without the assumption of the government that I am breaking the law
Gotta draw the line in the sand somewhere. Attempting to appease authority just leads to the further empowerment of said authority, to the detriment of the appeaser.
https://files.catbox.moe/31gerq.webm

>>53710033
if you don't believe the price of monero will go above bitcoin, you are retarded

>>53710048
Sure but I am selfish and don't want people I don't care about to make my life more difficult for me.

>>53710098
explain where I said that

>>53707824
fags only care about price go up
muh adoption now

>>53710201
They're going to use it and have been using it regardless.
>>53708945
They already know about monero. Advertising to them would just help create a narrative that "monero bad" while giving no benefit to us.

>>53710272
technically thinking monero will do another 100x makes me a moonfag

but technically my analysis is correct, so I am a moonfag

>>53710309
>Advertising to them would just help create a narrative that "monero bad" while giving no benefit to us.
A rogue state adopting Monero as a Sharia-compliant monetary system is the ultimate proof of Monero's usecase as a censorship resistant digital gold standard. There are no brakes on the delisting train in Western countries anyway. Zcash retards are obsessed with licking regulator ass and Dubai still banned them alongside us.

Monerochan (pbuh) needs to be introduced to Afghanistan.

>>53710396
I think that distinction breaks down to WHY you want monero to 100x

>so you can dump and profit in fiat
moonfag
>so stateless, private currency actually embeds itself in the public consciousness and stays with us forever, however niche.
monerochad

Really at the end of the day we're all just crash test dummies for a monetary system that didn't exist 10 years ago.

>>53710746
and also- 100x in what way?

100x the price? 100x as many nodes and hashrate? 100x as many transactions? I prefer the tangible metrics like nodes, hashrate and usage. Those are more indicative of value than what the next man will give you in exchange for some.

>>53709416
>That's a good fucking way to get the government to directly link any and all Monero usage to sponsoring terrorism
The Taliban and Al Qaeda are not the same group.

>>53710746
>>53710785
I want to profit in general, I don't think there is anything wrong with that, it is the best currency ever invented, real digital gold, and there is nothing wrong with making an investment and expecting profit

but also it would be nice if we can avoid the microchip, surveillance state nightmare

both are valid reasons

I have like 1/30th amount of networth in my bank account compared to monero, hopefully that gives you an idea of my belief

>>53710813
https://www.dni.gov/nctc/groups/afghan_taliban.html

Still a terror group. If they want to come out and endorse monero payments in Afghanistan that's fine, adoption is adoption. I just think the community or representative members within it making a concerted effort to reach out to an extremist religious terror group for what amounts to a sales pitch is pants-on-head retarded and will only blow up in your face (jihad pun intended).

You won't even know, your name will just return a warning when you try and make it through a TSA checkpoint and then you can have your nice chat with the US intelligence apparatus. Enjoy whatever arbitrary travel restrictions they decide to place on you for the rest of your life.

Work on translating guides and documentation to Arabic if you're so hell-bent on assisting Muslim terror groups, just stop glowing so fucking bright in my comfy monero threads.

>>53710941
Name a terror act the Taliban has committed outside the context of the War in Afghanistan.

>>53711109
sheltering Al-Qaeda and allowing them to train insurgents to be sent to commit attacks internationally was a pretty dick move.

>name one bad thing they did
>except it cannot be from the massive decades-long trend of bad things for which they are known

>>53711151
The Taliban told the United States that they would extradite Osama Bin Laden if they could provide proof that he was behind the 9/11 attacks. Not arresting someone when provided no evidence they committed a crime is not terrorism.

>>53711187
glow harder.

>>53711206
If you keep it up I'm going to fly to Afghanistan and pitch Monero to them just to spite you.

>>53711224
Please do fly to Afghanistan.

>>53710396
>technically thinking monero will do another 100x makes me a moonfag
No it doesn't, most people consider being obsessed with monero's price increasing and incessantly trying to do anything to make number go up like the bitcoin crowd to be moonfagging.
>>53710746
>>53710785
Exactly, what matters is monero's adoption as a currency. Price action will simply follow. Making an ideal currency comes first.
>>53710939
>real digital gold
This is such a stupid phrase, you sound exactly like a bitcoiner.
>an investment
See above.

>>53685661
Archetyp is currently probably the best market. Uptime and UI are nearly on the level of WHM in my opinion but they're still quite small and did not have that many vendors, last i've checked.

>>53702708
>>53703757
see >>53701052
I don't know if the maxipad spammer is back or it's just an actual retard who fell for it

>>53711682
it is real digital gold though

maybe you just don't realize what you're sitting on

it is an investment in the best currency on earth

we're in a similar position to the vatican or the united states government, we are hoarding an asset because it is technically the best asset at the time, we're just ahead of the curve

>>53710941
>Still a terror group
he fell for the terrorist label meme

>>53707367
>I swagged mine out full already
how?
what is a keystone? looks nice

>>53712567
The trezor has a silicon wrap, an in-charge usb cable, and panzerglass so it is much easier to hit the corner buttons. The glass is about flush with the top of the bezel now.
The Keystone Pro is a QR code air gaped wallet. So it has a big touch display, a camera & fingerprint reader. Since the feather devs are working with keystone to get feather to support it, I decided to get one and await the release. No other air gap wallets support xmr.
Haven't used it much due to the crypto winter. I have only done speedruns on metamask using BNB on BSC for giggles. DeFi fags love it as they can do defi from their phone now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rppBjA1a_dE

>>53714349
very cool. are there any trezor mod communities? it's open hardware so i'd imagine

i'll probably give mine a nice riced out spray painting at the least, something like glittery gold to put it on my gold chain

>>53714408
>are there any trezor mod communities?
I've read about others that roll their own trezor as a project. Not much beyond that. Crafting firmware is EE level shit.
In any case the Keystone shines for me as I will use software wallets for small amounts for tipping and donating as getting the trezor out and running can be a pain. With the keystone, no wires. Quick in, get things done. All funds secure. Even small bags. Air gaped seems the way things are going now.

Just use Tails with Featherwallet. Or Prestium once it matures.

>>53709937
>Don’t you want to know how it will all end?
Sure thing, there is nothing to loose on my end.

>>53718805
Puffy

>>53720958
Them thighs tho.

>>53709050
>Monero is used by stoners
>Monero is also used by stoners

>>53723017
Real talk.

Really makes you think.

>>53679973
Do you need to leave your client running 24/7?

Mining crew, keep up the good work

>>53724630
>Do you need to leave your client running 24/7?

Ideally, yes. That's why its easier to have a node running on an old Android device, you just set it up and forget about it.

>>53725072
I'm probably gonna use a VPS in this case since I get firewall'd thanks to CGN.

>>53679954
reminder that monero = infinite supply

>>53725298
reminder that bitcoin miners = no incentive in the future

>>53725234
>I'm probably gonna use a VPS in this case since I get firewall'd thanks to CGN.

That's the gigachad move, I've had one up and running since December, $5 a month to help out the network ain't no thang, EVERYBODY should be doing it.

DoingFedTime just did a video about it, its super easy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atEsL_TwAwg

>>53725298
>reminder that monero = infinite supply

>>53725234
VPS will be very expensive over time.

The full chain is ~161GB right now and even a weak old desktop could handle it. SSD's are cheaper than ever.

>>53725298
>>53682989

>>53725298
Reminder that Monero has a lower supply than Bitcoin.

>>53725372
>DoingFedTime just did a video about it, its super easy
I like this guy, keeps it real

>>53725298
Ah, I get it now, you're trying to bait replies to bump the thread. Thank you for your service fellow monerochad.

Shall I tell you about my life?
They say I'm a man of the world
I've flown across every tide
And I've seen lots of pretty girls

I guess I've got everything I need
I wouldn't ask for more
And there's no one I'd rather be
I just wish that I could fuck Monerochan

who has the chart comparing monero to other currencies with a checklist

My favorite little crab.

Another day, less sats then the day before. Inn no love Monero but it is pegged to usd more than. BTC

>>53728417
yes.

>>53728417
yes

>>53728495
I didn't want to be rich anyway

>>53679954
Monero-chan
How can she be so perfect bros

there are unironically bitcoin maxis on this website, how much longer until they suffer extreme demoralizing pain in your opinion

I think in less than 5 years bitcoin will lose all relevance in the space, it will not only drop out of the top spot but to the top 10

>>53726252

Based undercover MoneroChad.

>>53728495
BTC is pegged to NDQ tho

How can you guys continue to lose??

>ok I missed Dubai block discussion
>what's tldr

I am fully convinced once ISO20022 is fully implemented, all centralized shitcoins regulated into nonexistence and the CBDCs are finally fully implemented in the entire earth (probably in a period of 2 or 3 years) the paralel economy will fully pump monero price to probably a x10 or x100 boost, maybe i could be wrong but i am sure if stellar or other compliant shitcoins rise and its just a matter of time before ISO20022 is implemented i am sure its inevitable monero will rise as well.

However my question is cardano, how resilient is cardano, i feel cardano may be more decentralized than etherium and to be honest i think etherium might lose its edge the next years, i want to knCould regulators or could someone make cardano dissapear, by listening to Charles Hodkinson it sounds like cardano is decentralized and resilient as fuck however I don't know why he cares so much about cardano being compliant and implementing full kyc when releasing his djed decentralized coin which to be honest i don't know if its really decentralized.

>>53731866
what the hell is iso20022... oh that doesn't sound that bad but isn't there zelle already? idk about cardano

>>53732174
Everything that has ISO in its name means rules for standardization, so there are diferent ISO rules for every industry, in the case of banking, new and old banks all have like diferent systems, some old banks are still stuck on shit like Gotran which is a coding language model that came more than 60 years ago and other modern banks are i suppose are on C+, whatever the case the legacy system is old and the majority of the banks in the world have diferent systems and rules.

Basically to create a one world goverment and for the legacy system to make CBDCs in the first place they need to agree in a set of rules.

Which is basically ISO20022, in a few words the bankers to maintain control will resort to CBDCs and coopt the crypto technology, but at the same time the more control they take the more monero will pump.

>>53680532
Sounds interesting and probably something the monero miners could adopt unlike the bitcoin asic cartels that basically means bitcoin cannot improve at the technical level.

Hey guys. Would you be interested in a lemmy instance for Monero?

Reddit is set to IPO in the next few months and we don't know what will happen. They could drastically increase userdata collection or even ban third-party clients or just straight up censor everything "bad".

Sadly tor without javascript is limited to view-only and the sorting buttons dont work but at least it works at all, I previously assumed it wouldnt.

right now the best thing we have as a "fallback" for the reddit community are these threads here on 4chan, which is kinda sad for such a big project.

https://youtu.be/-gGLvg0n-uY

I like where this is headed.....

>>53733000
>a fucking redditor
go back and stay there

Heh heh I don’t care about price action b-because I’m not a moonfag. Heh

>>53735818
Quoting Michael Saylor
>the markets will decide
And remember that Monero has the de facto network effect on privacy and digital cash, as soon as the investors go away, Monero would be #1.

>>53735818
based

>>53735818
Is he /ourguy/?

>>53731866
>However my question is cardano, how resilient is cardano
Not at all.
They literally had downtime because of how centralized it is. Absolute joke.

been running p2pool in the background with 2 threads for 3 days, and I just got $0.04 worth of xmr. neat!

>>53737521
>>53737152
>>53735818
what about other sites like coinsbee?

>>53739364
nice bro

>>53739941
>what about other sites like coinsbee?

>>53739998
that's great!
nice to see

>>53739364
YGMI, King.

>>53737152
>s soon as the investors go away
So... never?

>>53740927
They will die off eventually

>>53740937
Investors are always presently everywhere.
You can have potato based economy and there will be potato swing traders and turnip investors.

The 2019-2020 PTSD is coming back.

>https://twitter.com/johnbcdoe/status/1625843307644583936

bullish as can be

Hierarchy of twitterposting
>copy pasting the text
>screencap
>link

>>53739364
That's like, 4 future dollars

I just bought and a pair of with Monero bros the botnet will never know just how much lean muscle I am putting on.

>>53742440
rod and a pair of balls?

>>53742500
DAMMIT HOW DO YUO KNOW, THEY CRACKED THE CODE IT'S FUCKING OVER

>>53742558
cock and ball torture

Is now a good time to gather XMR or would you not recommend it for someone who can't throw down thousands?

>>53742741
We're in an anemic economy and the macro looks awful, so now is going to be your best buying opportunity (maybe not specifically today, just in general as it's a bear market). If you own zero I would probably buy 1 just to be in the whole coiner club, and consider DCAing for the rest.

>>53742741
buy as much as possible

what body type do you think little girls like? i was gunning for a 6 pack until my friend tells me they dont care about that and actually prefer chubby adults

>>53743892
Suicide stacking is the best exercise for attracting cutes and funnies

is monero a good alternative to debit? i have no credit card or some other shit, i dont trust banks

>>53744010
Monero is volatile which is annoying, but soon enough it might be the last bastion of private cash once the regular physical kind gets phased out. Debit cards will just segue into whatever evil cbdc nonsense they're planning as they're centralized.

>>53744010
monero is a savings account, and real digital gold

treat it as such, for most things you'll still need fiat though, did you just land on earth yesterday

>>53744010
I think in a vacuum they are equal payment solutions wherever monero is actually accepted.
There are tradeoffs of using either
>speed
>scalability (as of right now)
>centralization level
>acceptance
>your own competency (monero is not as simple as bank debit)

really for you to decide if it's worth it.

>>53679954
Just grabbed 5 of these babies. What am I in for

>>53745266

>>53682082
Oof

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>53747258
Yeah I'm not reading btc maxi cope wall of text

>>53747317

It's for connoisseurs of only the most exquisite maxicope.

>>53747258
why is that ever an argument to say "mugh, you know, you can do WITHOUT fungibility" it's retarded. Monero is a better product, that's all.

>>53739998
Biggest places to spend your Monero (updated list 2023):

- Coincards.com: you can buy gift cards
- Coinsbee.com: you can buy gift cards
- Cakepay.com: you can buy gift cards

Hell yeah! We're really close to replacing the governments guys!

>>53747258
He really pointed out how the trucker protest was paid in BITCOIN, the one that failed completely. Or how sanction "violations" are in BITCOIN, because you can exactly see when a sanction is violated or not due to the public list of sanctioned addresses. And then that I should care that andrew tate has bitcoin instead of monero?

>>53747258
>Any companies like Intel producing mining chips
Too funny, should we tell him?

>>53737152
>Quoting Michael Saylor
>you need Monero
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ccJ33hLaMF0

>>53747258
>darkweb marketplaces and ransomware are bitcoin only please do NOT look into this yourself
>You know that protest that failed and ruined people's lives when their transactions were traced and frozen? Yep that was bitcoin baby!

I bought at 9000 sats....... You guys lied to me....

>>53747258
Obvious bait but
>all of these criminals who got caught and their money seized?
>BITCOIN

also
>top DNMs are bitcoin-only
lol

>>53748777
>Obvious bait but

Might seem that way but this faggot is for real: https://www.reddit.com/user/Mallardshead/

Oh and FUKKEN CHEKKED!

Just planning for potential futures- Are there any other mining pools with a hidden service? I am already mining in hashvault.

Reminder to buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

>>53751530
Zupport the Zpecial monetary operation

>>53751530
Zupport ze Founders guyz, and stay Zompliant(tm), aren't we ze good Zuyz?

>>53751530
>Reminder to buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

Reminder that nobody gives a solitary fuck about ZionCash.

>>53742901
>>53742972
Thanks for the considerations. Seems like its privacy aspect is going to become all the more important.

>>53751530
Reminder that no one cares about tranny coin and their backdoor.

>>53751530
You vill buy ze Zcash ant you vill be happy about zit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrEUzKTt7j0

>>53751659

I'll send you a postcard from the moon.

>>53751682

Without them we would have ZKPs. So say "thank you".

>>53751683

Nobody cares until suddenly they do.

>>53751992

Tranny FUD in 2023? Get new material lol

>>53752144

I'll be VERY happy with ZEC @ 5 figures.

>>53752461
It was pumped and dumped from 3.5k BTC, it goes without saying that pumps and dumps never pump back to their heights without a dump following.
>>53752498
Zank Zou Zy Zaster, Zere Zis Zy Zug Zation?
>>53752533
No amount of time will make a tranny's back hole of a woman,

I spent some monero, had a bit of a late night, and now have a headache today. great little coin

>>53752565
>I'll be VERY happy with ZEC @ 5 figures.
pay denbts silberd

>>53752678
Has anyone done the math to see by how much would he be down if he had bought equal amounts every time he said he would?

>>53744010
>i dont trust banks
That's fair, depending on how much value you store you still should probably look into creating a very broad basket.

In case of monero you're exposed to the free market. 100% loss of value is a low (.)% possible scenario.

If I were to avoid banks like the plague this would be my priority list: bank-notes(liquidity), metals(relative stability), monero(universal private access, although exchange needed for practical use), multiple bank accounts + foreign bank accounts (at risk of bankers but hedged through FDIC insurance + different countries rules/systems).

>>53753176
forgot stock ownership in your own name
Everything includes risk, it simply depends on what you're ready to take on

Can I buy a monerochan plush now

>>53752514
>>Nobody cares until suddenly they do.

Suddenly? You think critical mass adoption happens overnight? Sheer fucking delusion.

How's the weather in Nigeria?

LOL @ you zero IQ infinite mint bug bagholders everything is mooning and you are below 160
I'm SO GLAD I didn't buy this shitcoin

NEW THREAD: >>53754783
>NEW THREAD: >>53754783
NEW THREAD: >>53754783
>NEW THREAD: >>53754783
NEW THREAD: >>53754783
>NEW THREAD: >>53754783