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you just know this shit is going to get blamed on all the vaxxies dying en masse

>>53692712
nah they'll die in 2 more week, cancer takes time

>>53692692
Source? I wanna flex on the east coast fags.

>>53692724
>he hasn't heard of the vaxx induced turbocancer

>>53692692
in Revelation it says when a thing doesn't belong in the sky, drop everything and leave the cities

>>53692692
It's amazing what right wing retards will latch onto, and how quickly they teach each other what the correct thing to worry about is. Within a week every corner of the chudverse, from Q boomers on Facebook to mutt incels on /pol/ have decided this derailment (of which 1700 occur every year) is a conspiracy to poison Ohio and cover it up.

>>53692751
>chemical train exploding and polluting the atmosphere around it is a right wing conspiracy

>>53692763
It kind of is. Deregulation, a favorite of the right wing, caused this derailment to become a national disaster.

Another nothingburger inbound

>>53692801
Didnt biden force the unions to set their employees back to work?

>>53692801
biden personally quashed the strikes that preceded this disaster

>>53692801

Regulation surrounds everything around this, and failed to prevent it, retard

>>53692751
It’s not just right wingers
At this point you have to be retarded to think it’s a good idea to burn toxic chemicals and arresting reporters for covering it
Fuck you faggot and your right vs left identity politics

>>53692828
>>53692831
>>53692833
Republicans wanted to force even worse conditions for the union. What biden did isn't good, but republicans want to destroy this countryl.

>>53692890

retarded MSNBC boomer comments section tier post

>>53692751

>>53692801
Deregulation is a left wing liberal ideal.

>>53692692
corporate leeches vs the people

pepsi vs coke pleb politics same sugar water

>>53692692
don't care, doesn't matter.

>>53692912

"Deregulation" itself is a meme word. It describes nothing. Saying people aren't allowed to collect rainwater is a regulation. Removing that law would be deregulating. And yet the law was utterly fucking stupid and useless anyway.

>>53692834
Ironically getting rid of these divisions is actually their end goal. A globally homogenous culture, a globally homogenous religion, and a one-world government sitting at the top. So us uniting to fight them ends up achieving their initial objective, funny isn't it.

>>53692902
What did I say wrong? Elucidate me.

>>53692692
You will die a terrible terrible death.

>>53692979

You said "50% of the country just wants to destroy the country", very insightful

liberal talking heads and conservative talking heads live in the same neighborhood where everyone is a millionaire

>>53693182
Correct. Again, how am I wrong?

>>53692801
>>53692763
The railroads are owned by the central bank
As with all issues in this world, it was directly caused by the bankers

>>53693213

You aren't, you're very right. *pats head*

>>53692961
You’re fucking retarded
Agreeing on one subject doesn’t mean a one world government
You must be a glowtard because no one thinks your reasoning is coherent
>resisting a new world order is actually what they want anons
Everyone should just give up then right fag?

>>53693213
>uses retarded hyperbole as a talking point
tiippy tappy hes writing his next useless message

>>53693277
Cope, even the other guy agrees with me.

>>53692751
People will fall for this bait, but it is hilarious to see real libs on social media not give a shit about an ecological disaster visible from outer space on account of their ideological enemies being upset by it. Normies left and right fall rank and file into the same overall goal imposed on us which is total division and everyone is going to get what they deserve for being gullible.

>>53692890
>republicans want to destroy this country
That's the left. How often do you need to be told to your face by them that they want to defund the police, abolish boarders, fundamentaly transform the US, support the great reset, incite violent riots quote the soviet union wct before you figure out that the left isn't on the side of western civilization? The destruction of the country is an active goal.

>>53692692
I live right on the border of Washtenaw county in MI, just barely missed the mark for 200 miles, am I safe anons?

The people who want to destroy this country are the people who hate/dislike the most things about this country. And we know exactly who that is. Usually most of what they say starts with "look at what [insert other country here] is doing!!"

>>53692890
lol, derailing trains and unleashing poisonous gases into the air and water is a way to actually destroy a country. What's it going to take for lefties to see how bad this administration is?

I think WW3 has already started and this was done by China or Russia. Same thing with all those farms that keep burning down. This might be the future of warfare.

Is this going to reach Southern Ontario? I might make the move to Alberta if it is worse than reported so far.

>>53692692
>200 mile radius
Retard take. The wind was strongly blowing northeast the days during and after the burning. South and West of East Palestine are likely fine. Northeast beyond 200 miles is likely fuck.

>>53692692
Ah shit I didn't realize this was going to get into the great lakes. Good job mutts, the world's largest fresh water source is ruined.

>>53692801
lol we live in the most regulated time of human history and everyone hates it and is miserable.

>>53693246
Calm down, fag. He's right, you're wrong. Global homogenization has been part of the elite agenda for over a century.

Imagine being such a retarded driver that you derail a vehicle that goes in a straight line on a track

>>53692692
It just needs to go another 50 miles.
I want DC to be within the affected zone.

>>53692692
that's a lot of white people

>>53692692
I LITERALLY JUST BOUGHT A HOME IN THE FUCKING AREA ARE YOU KIDDING ME GOD???? I LOSE LIFE SAVINGS IN STOCK MARKET TRADING LIKE RETARD THEN SAVE UP AGAIN OVER 5 YEARS AGAIN TO BUY HOUSE WHERE THERE IS HUGE CHEMICAL INFECTION GAH DAYUMN I AM SO BAD AT THIS I GIVE UP AND WANT TO DIE I JUST DONT WANNA WORK 50 HOURS A WEEK TO STILL BE BROKE AS FUCK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>53695235
WHAT ARE THE FUCKING ODDS I BUY 3 DAYS BEFORE THE SPILL

>>53692751
Why must you faggots make everything into a left vs right thing. Why can't you just see things for how they are instead of dividing everything into those 2 groups.

>>53692692
Anybody have a link to the video of the train axel on fire? Supposedly a defect detector picked of a bad axel a few miles before the derailment and someone got cell phone vid of it, but the only link I can find is behind WSJ paywall.

>>53692692
Vinyl chloride causes glioblastoma multiforme, go long on northwest biotherapeutics and novocure

>>53695267
Thanks for playing

>>53692692
/biz/ check out this post
>>53695346
how retarded is this or is it plausible?

Lots of mentions of northeast winds so as as southern onterrible anon should I be worried? This thing cutting across lake erie?

>>53695480
There's nothing to worry about citizen. Unfortunately there have been a string of new covid cases in your area recently and we need you to stay in your home unless absolutely necessary. Thank you for your cooperation.

>>53695480
Yes! Please God blow it back their way damn it!! East coast faggots and Canadians deserve it!

>>53693730
lmao yeah sure.

>>53693386
In this specific case, the left strongly supported the unions. This is one of the things they went on strike about, longer trains and less employees meant less time to inspect each car. It went from a few minutes, to like 30 seconds per car. Centrist Joe made them all get back to work.

>>53692890
Right wingers keep covering up all of trumps nerve gas attacks!

I'm western mass, should I be worried?
I work from home, should I unironically be flying to Florida for a few weeks or something?

>>53693730
the cops blew it up actually. the derailment itself could have been, i guess, but more likely it is just a case of corruption and incompetence all geared around protecting the train company which is owned heavily by vanguard and warren buffet

>>53692692
That’s me in Washington DC.

>>53692692
It is just a coincidence that the village that got gassed the hardest was called East Palestine village?

>>53692724
The vax (the boosters at least) also reduces your ability to fight cancer

>>53695832
You're fine in western mass, but lol at "a few weeks". The burning of vinyl chloride creates dioxin, this will be in the water supply for decades. The regions effected by this are fucked for years to come.

>>53695992
I don't doubt that
my immediate concern was with that cloud of chemicals blowing this way and being in my air
I'm aware that there are going to be longterm repercussions, it's really scary

This isn't like something that will just affect a few people that were in the immediate area. Dioxin is the shit that made agent orange so terrible. This being in the water, and it could get in the topsoil and such, means all the crops in the region are fucked too. This is a Chernobyl sized event and our media isn't covering it for shit.

>>53692834
This pic says it all really

It's 246 miles for me to drive to East Palestine. Fortunately I'm not dependent on the Ohio river for water....but Jesus Christ shit like this is just going to become more common as American infrastructure decays due to the greed of the gerontocracy and the workforce becomes lazier and more neggrified.

>>53692692
verification not required

copypasting from another thread:

This spill was localized and will not noticeably affect any area outside of East Palestine, Ohio. But there's something else that makes this thread stupid, possibly more important than that:
THIS CHEMICAL
HAS A HALF LIFE
OF 28 DAYS
It's not going to affect the value of property here because 99% of it will LITERALLY NOT FUCKING EXIST a year from now.
Seeing all these threads about this spill has been so tiring because nobody talking about it has any fucking clue how the thing spilled even works. It's so fucking retarded. Just like everything that comes out of /pol/, it's a nothingburger. You will not hear about this a year from now. Nothing of significance will come from this. It's not as if it's not being reported on because there's some conspiracy, it's not being reported on because anyone with a brain can tell IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.
Now stop posting about a shit tier /pol/ nothingburger (or go to /pol/ to do so, I don't care what you do on your containment board) and MAKE THREADS THAT ACTUALLY FUCKING RELATE TO FINANCE.

>>53692692
Source?

>>53696212
The burning of it creates dioxin, a very toxic chemical with a half life of 25-100 years. This region of Ohio and Western PA are absolutely fucked.

>>53696212
that's retarded. chemicals don't have half life's, only radioactive shit does.

>>53692751
>ACSSHUALY chuds, dumping millions of cubic meters of toxic gas is a Good Thing

>>53695309
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ohios-apocalyptic-chemical-disaster-rages
The hell are you doing on WSJ? There's a vid of it here at the usual place.

lmao

>>53692745
>airplanes

This is enough to set the spark to end Biden. He forced these workers to go back to unsafe conditions knowing what could happen.

It about to get really interesting.

>>53697358
The lawsuits that are about to come from this are going to astounding, RIP dem's and their ukraine money laundering operation.

>>53692692
This map is woefully unrealistic.
One would need to take a Gaussian dispersal model to show any real effects.
That would put the toxins in New York, pa, Maine and Canada.
Not western Ohio, eastern Michigan, and place west or south of the fire.

>>53692692
>>53696063
>>53696377
>>53697384
What if I live in central indiana?

Ok, now I’m paranoid

>>53692692
Good.
Republican retards in Ohio get what they fucking deserve.

What are the ramifications for Michiganfags near Ohio

>>53692733
Bro you can have those 2 ky counties they'll be alright. Im just worried about what jet stream is picking all this up and where it's headed.

>>53692751
This. Republican retards vote to deregulate things then when that has consequences they want to flip out and act like it's a big conspiracy. It's nice that at least in this case, it's going to primarily be Republicans dying for their actions. If you all would have elected Hillary Clinton things like this would not happen.

>>53697573
being west of the disaster is certainly better than being east of it. The nastiest chemicals are in the smoke cloud that will be carried east and fall across the land.

>>53698092
lmao, yes republicans dergulate and cause this shit, but the neo-lib dems are no better. Biden is the one that forced the worker strike to be over, when better safety standards were a big thing union were fighting for. Dems in the house also voted overwhelmingly to break the strike.

This event brought the shills out like nothing else

>>53697962
Michigan is safe, winds and the jet stream are heading NE.
You’re good.

> the dilapidated shantytowns of O-HI-O

So glad I live in Florida where nothing crazy like this ever happens

>>53696963
Ahahaha you guys picked up my drops!? Lol yeh man, I was eatin wings and fries with my boy at the bar. Kinda hard to stay sly and keep up in a sticky.

>>53696212
Shut up faggot jew, there's a river and mouth to the gulf. There's jet streams.
Flint Michigan, jew

>>53692949
You didn’t say anything

>>53692712
>2 more weeks

If you don’t buy the red rabbit token I will fuck your mother my bloody bitch

>>53692751
>"A carcinogenic chemical is going into a water reservoir... and that's a good thing! (if you disagree you're le extreme right wing q trumptard)"

>>53692751
because the "left" self identify by their refusal to ever believe in anything that goes against what the government tells them. the actual left wingers and not the lumpenprole left like yourself are fully capable of admitting the government can't be trusted. you'd be surprised how often leftypol and pol see eye to eye on an issue while still hating each other.

Buy the rabbit token my bloody ser

>>53692692
>wipes out metro Detroit
>rest of state untouched

PLEASE BE REAL

Man the FBI's disinformation jannies are out in force today. They really don't want people talking about the glowing sea.
This is like the 5th thread thats been totally derailed by 4 posters from Langley IP's.
Gotta justify an increase in next years budget

>literally nobody is checking if southern ontario is safe
sigh

>>53698520
The top article on CNN Health is about the derailment and its health concerns, there is no coverup.

>Black Swan event
This is the sign we've been waiting for. It's been prophesized that the switch will be flipped 2 weeks after the event and XRP will moon to $2000 overnight

Every thread on 4chan about this just turns into far more shit-slinging than usual, almost like there's power and money behind not wanting people to legitimately talk about this. I still don't know what the fuck happened. So somebody tell me what the fuck happened, I can't sift through this bullshit

>>53698554
the official news stories say there is no longer any concern, air levels are safe, everyone can go home. i'm sure that's very reassuring to anyone still capable of believing the official stories from government and media.

>>53698602
Thats what I was saying.
The jannies don't want us actually talking about it, just arguing over which color of tie is more evil.
Do we have any confirmed deaths yet?

>>53698602
>train derailed
>then depending on the source you're reading from either the train caught on fire or it was lit on fire on purpose as a controlled burn. not sure why official sources are giving two different stories here, maybe they're both true
>toxic gasses severe enough that residents of east palestine ohio were evacuated
>air levels monitored and now declared safe, residents allowed to return home
thats the official story so far

Sorry, but this is what happens when you don't keep the population in harmony with nature. Whoops.

>>53698637
oh, and it was pvc mostly and maybe some other things. but mostly seems to be the pvc people are worried about. yeah i am also surprised to hear that pvc has a liquid form i dunno, its the material our pipes are made from in plumbing and other things.

>>53698654
>yeah i am also surprised to hear that pvc has a liquid form i dunno, its the material our pipes are made from in plumbing and other things.
PVC is a polymer made of vynil. The thing that got spilled into the air was vynil chloride which is the precursor for that.

>>53698690
ah makes sense now, thankyou
its spelled vinyl by the way noy vynil

>>53698092

It's called the Great Reset, and you will be reset.

>>53698602
The environment is fucked.

>>53695267
I feel you. Life isn't a winning game.

>>53692692
East Palestine
>me thinking it was in the Middle East.

>>53692692
Haha just reading the replies i can see the boomer posting here reeks of brainworms boomer newfags. What has become of this place?

>>53692912
You’re either a turboretard or a republican glowie I can’t tell which.

>>53692751
>typical sub 50 iq leftie reply

Wasn’t there just a shitty movie on Netflix released about an event like this? Predictive programming isn’t a joke

>>53697962
All Michiganiggers will fucking hang.

>>53694046
the more regs, the more corruption.
the more corruption, the more money is lost to grift, usually ending up in corrupt government employee pockets and assorted virtue signaling that would otherwise normally be spent on things that make regulation unnecessary.
you need severe punishment for entities that do wrong. the law as it exists today is mostly a scam, like almost everything else.

>>53694041
That's what you get for dissing Cali almond farmers

>>53695275
Because they are faggot glowies, literal state-paid sockpuppets

>>53695988
>Your body
>fight cancer
What the fuck am I reading

>>53692801
Such incidents would never occur under Republican Railroad Inc.

>>53696776
The half-life is on the EPA documentation for the chemical, you absolute mongoloid.
https://19january2017snapshot.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2016-09/documents/vinyl-chloride.pdf
A half-life is the time it takes for something to be reduced by half, and this measurement is general & accurate enough you can apply it to chemical reactions.

>>53699985
That's in an ideal stable state tho
And from what I can gather, it's being treated somewhat less than ideally, is probably long morphed into some other shit entirely and is (unargued) mixed in with fuck knows what else. They probably don't even know wtf they let loose now themselves. Chemi is Fun.

>>53700015
I'm assuming wide dispersion of the Vinyl Chloride in atmosphere and sunlight will allow it to break close to the provided half-life since there will be fewer complicating factors than what's happening in the crucible of toxic goo at ground zero. Burned materials, reactions with other chemicals, currently undocumented cars - it's anyone's guess really. All I know is that those townspeople and probably the people in the surrounding counties and beyond are fucked.

>>53698949
No I just understand political philosophy beyond what your neoliberal two party brain can comprehend.

>>53700268
What are you talking about? Haven't you seen how bad Blue Babylon is? Doesn't that really inspire you to go do your civic duty and vote for red Babylon to stop them?

>>53698602
>So somebody tell me what the fuck happened,
train derailed in palestine oh. 5 tanker cars were carrying pressurized vinyl chloride. bad shit as it is. the authorities decided on breaching the tankers and burning off the chloride, and making a bunch more nasty.

>>53695235
I WENT ALL IN ON BINGUS TOKEN

I'm unsure you guys noticed but the TV series white noise from 2022 has the same kind of plot as this train derailment, it's eerily similar, you should take a look at the trailer.

>>53701218
>1700 train derailments happen annually
>OMG a TV show about a train carrying hazmat derailed is similar to a real life event!
>it’s predictive programming!!!

The train fucking derailed because a weld failure on an axel. Do any of you faggots have actual jobs? I know it’s hard for you to get a job as a high school dropout, but there’s these jobs called preventative maintenance. You see someone did not do their job or made a mistake! Or it wasn’t in their SOP to inspect those welds because it’s such a rare occurrence when they fail (least likely)

So because a chuckle fuck maintenance guy messed up at his job suddenly it’s a huge conspiracy. I’m so sick of you utter morons

>>53701275
This is probably the correct answer
It's probably a giant nothingburger
Burnt into the air, 50mi away probably feels nothing
Also wind literally doesn't even blow in the southern direction or westward the only way it affects those outward areas is via ground pollution MAYBE
I refuse to be schizophrenic about this, it's far more believable that an old money railroad company was cheap and Jewish, they were probably told this area of track is a problem, they probably said "okay yeah we'll get to that" and then they just didn't.
That sounds like what happened
I doubt the government or WEF is that concerned with killing off eastern Ohio, there's nothing important there.

>>53699679
Your immune system can kill cancer cells.

well let's see what's got the nazi's panties in a twist today

subparbowl?
satanic rock stars?
chinese expeonage?
aliumvasion?
vaccine genocide?

huh. It's just a drove my chevy to the BLEVE but the BLEVE was dry

>>53701445
If it was documented and not taken care of then someone is going to get fucked. If it was never documented the maintenance person may get a slap on the wrist best case scenario

>>53700105
While it does degrade rapidly in air, the stuff that gets into groundwater is a completely different story. Shit could stick around for years.

>>53702121
Err anon a half life of 28 days would mean 99% of it would have dissipated in 6 months, and for 110 days, 2 years. So this is all a nothingburger. People in the immediate vicinity of the spill will have to get their water from elsewhere for a while - by immediate vicinity I mean those in the town where the spill occurred. And that's basically all.

>>53702166
I’m looking at the anerobic number.
I don’t think groundwater is typically an oxygenated environment.