/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>53668541
Thank you for being inclusive.

FIRST. BUY SOXL NIGGAS!!!

Natural Gas

>>53668549
literally the first image when you google female broker lmao

>>53668549
FUCK YOU NIGGA!!!

>>53668541
>>53668555
THAT BITCH AIN'T WEARIN GLASSES SHE AIN'T A REAL BROKER, THIS PICTURE IS FAKE AF. PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPOSED TO COMPUTER SCREENS ALL DAY WEAR LIGHT REFLECTOR GLASSES.

last one ill post but this was fun. ty for the suggestion

i lied. you will suffer much tonight

I miss scoopsies...

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=bjnFA3VIGio&feature=share

>>53668551
>>53668558
>>53668572
scoopsies, is that you?

So how does cointegration work? You smooth the data to find the area under the curve (approx), then compare the curve shapes to each other?

at least until i pass out

why do 3D bitches be mad ugly, it pisses me off.

>>53668632
are you a zoomer? they used to be cute. ah 2010.

>>53668554
Fuck it I'm holding lean hog futures till expiration.

I hate weekends. All these normies are like "OMG IT'S THE FREAKIN WEEKEND!!! I CAN'T WAIT TO CONSOOOOOM!" and I'm just over here waiting for Sunday night futures.

Yields are beyond fucked.

When does theta become a very concerning factor? Doesn't the value of a contract decrease exponentially over time?

If I buy a contract that has an exp a month out. When will theta start really affecting the value?

>>53668554
I bought LNG. Looking for it to move to 170~ by march on news of it reopening its exports.

>>53668674
Explain yourself, what does it mean bond wizard?

>>53668644
yeah, i blame the jews for this.

>>53668674
I'M GUNNA INVEEEEERSE

>>53668675
Theta killed options today. I had puts and calls and they lost premium from opening bell to close

>>53668687
jews didnt make you all eat like hogs. youre probably fat too.

>>53668699
>”inversion of yield curve unlikely to signal recession”
>has literally predicted every recession in the past 50 years
why are the jews like this?

>>53668675
Most theta decay really starts to ramp up 30-45 days out. Thats thest best time to write. Buying something with less than that is asking for trouble

>>53668675
If you read the OP, which no one ever does, You can find the options calculator. You simply feed it the data and it will tell you what to expect.
Great little tool for questions just like this.

>>53668722
why are you letting the tripfags live in your head rent-free, anon?

>>53668717
To be fair, its not the inversion, its when they stop inverting and cross the 0 line

>>53668675
30 days and under is pretty bad relative to further out expiration dates. 2 weeks and under is terrible and you better be confident in a big move for your trade during that time frame. The average ultra conservative Boomer method of Options trading is to buy contracts with a minimum of 60 days to expiration. I like 5 weeks personally for a combination of decent options prices with a nice small buffer against theta decay.

>>53668616
>>53668613
NAH I AIN'T SCOOPSIES NIGGA. BUT IMMA LEARN YA'LL SOMETHING TONIGHT SINCE ALL THE NORMIES ARE OUT OF THE BOARD.
ALWAYS BET AGAINST RETAIL INVESTORS. MONEY IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF RETAIL INVESTORS, CORPORATIONS AND INSTITUTIONS AIN'T YA'LLS FRIENDS NIGGA. WHEN THEY NOTICE THAT YA'LL RETAIL INVESTORS ARE PUTTING MONEY IN A STOCK AND IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO MOVE VOLUMES BUT ENOUGH TO MOVE IT, THEY WILL BAIT YOU INTO PUMPING IT BEFORE THEY DUMP THEIR HEAVY BAGS AND TAKING PROFITS OFF WITH THEM. TIMING IS ESSENTIAL MY NIGGAS. THEY HAVE HAWKISH EYES ALWAYS PRAYING ON WHERE RETAIL INVESTORS WILL BE PUTTING THEY MONEY ON AND BET AGAINST IT.

>>53668672
Aren't we all...
>>53668674
T-bills are going to be the best play until the recession. Rates haven't peak yet though.

>>53668733
What causes that to happen though? Future growth goes down so they sell the long dated treasuries and buy the short term ones?

>>53668715
wrong.
>>53668675
the greeks are just a calculation nigga fr. the last 30 days are the rape zone look up theta decay curve

>>53668750
Im waiting for the market to stop playing with fire trying to squeeze the bears. Its just going to make the next leg down hurt more.

>>53668743
>t.

we got a cover!

DR SniSUS: Cits Nehai Fooes (clearly means Citizens Greet Foes in degraded future language, "nehai" coming from "nihao" of course.)

>>53668759
Theta risk is easy to understand. Pin risk is impossible to account for.

Do you guys remember when EU oil and gas companies almost went bankrupt, despite prices being at record highs, because they shorted their own commodities predicting they would go down?
Yeah
I was in EQNR at the time. That one hurt.

page one? somehow gritty is involved.

>>53668729
well he's was an attention whoring tripfag right? so no problem posting his little fagface as often as possible to make cocksuckers like you seethe

>>53668675
What's most important is DvegaDtime: DvegaDtime is the negative value of the partial derivative of vega in terms of time to maturity and it measures how fast vega is going to change with respect to the time decay. Picrel chart is a visual representation of its fluctuations with respect to the underlying asset S.

The graph clearly displays that the influence of time decay on volatility exposure measured by vega is mostly felt in the ATM area especially for options with short time to maturity. The fact that DvegaDtime is mathematically expressed as negative derivatives makes sense because time decay is clearly a price that every options holder has to pay. In order to make things easier have a look at the plots of vega and theta because you will immediately realize that both volatility and time decay have their highest and lowest values in the ATM area. It goes without saying that ATM options have the highest volatility potential and therefore vega will be effected the most by the passage of time when the strike of our hypothetical options and the underlying price gets very close.

The have a name for other second order Greek derivatives like vomma, vanna, volga, vera, charm, gamma, etc,

But they don't have one for DvegaDtime

Let's come up with one my white bhenchodes

>>53668763
It won't hurt at all if you're stacking Benjamins.

>>53668675
>>53668804
let me spell this out in simple plain ass english. theta decay is most relevant for ATM options because that's where the volatility (IV%) changes the most / is most sensitive

I fucking HATE vaxxworld

>>53668804
Zega

>>53668822
I MAY HAVE SAID SOMETHING INCORRECT HERE ABOUT THE RATE OF CHANGE OF VEGa WITH RESPECT TO THETA AHHHH FUCK NO NO NO NON ON NO NO NO MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP I HATE THE ANTICHRIST

He's here.

>>53668743
hey gookposter, why you larping as a negro now?

>>53668824

>>53668831
Futa

>>53668815
Im trying to lock in a mortgage before it sails past 4% on long dated treasuries. Im holding cash, tmv, drv, and a call on LNG expecting natural gas prices to mature back to around 3.5-4$ for an mmbtu.

>>53668837
WHO TF IS GOOKPOSTER NIGGA

I'm kidding DvegaDtime is not fucking important

Idiots

Morons

I would punch you guys in the nose if this was a bar

>>53668849
your obnoxious writing style didn't change

>>53668849
>>53668743
This is just cringe as fuck can you please stop. if youre going to niggerpost you can be funny about it but this is just all caps spamming and saying nigga once in a while

>>53668791
Yes I remember when EQNR was shilled at its local high as well

>>53668859
>>53668867

>>53668541
she cute

>>53668873
We all try to force our stupid gimmicks, i do too. but this is just borderline spamming unreadable unfunny horseshit in all caps

>>53668743
Why would they waste time and energy going after retail? Retail is just a small drop in the bucket liquidity wise for any major ticker. It's the institutions that are buying and selling millions at any given time, not retail. On yesterday's 5m chart of AAPL, each candlestick is about 300,000 shares of volume. Around 150 a share that means each 5m candlestick is 45 million dollars in activity. Retail is pretty much irrelevant in that ocean of money, they're not trading millions every five minutes.
Wouldn't it be more lucrative for them to try to stop hunt another institution and take their millions? Why bother with Joe Schmoe's peanuts?

>>53668804
this one is already called veta

>>53668867
>>53668883
reminds me of this guy i knew in high school who would do this all day in aim chats sometimes. darryl if thats you fuck off

i lost my birthday money, about 80 bucks i had left from my Godfather and Godmother, shit hurts more than losing thousands of money in the market or that time i got drunk and lost my wallet at the airport with 200 bucks.

>MFW someone around me thinks the market will go meaningfully lower from here.

What about “generational bottom” don’t you understand?

>>53668934
junk bond kings gonna play seminole bingo.

>>53668947

So when is the CPI going to be announced?

>>53668958
Tuesday

>>53668885
NIGGA IF EVERY SINGLE TRANSACTION EACH PERSON DOES COST A PENNY, THAT PENNY ADDS UP OVERTIME AND WITH MILLIONS OF TRANSACTIONS BEING MOVED EACH DAY EVERY BIT OF THOSE PENNY TRANSACTIONS COUNT AS PROFITS. THIS AIN’T A GAME FOR AMATEUR RETAILERS TO WIN, YOU KEEP THINKING JEWS WONT HELP OTHER JEWS PROFIT OFF THE GOYIM AND SEE WHERE THAT TAKES YOU. THERE’S A REASON WHY COINS HAVE REEDED EDGES NOW. IT USED TO BE CLIPPED BY JEWS BIT BY BIT, BUT DUMB FUCKS LIKE YOU DON’T EVEN NOTICE DETAILS LIKE THAT EVEN IF THEY’RE LITERALLY DOING IN FRONT OF YOU TO THIS DAY.
>“WHY WOULD JEWS CLIP OFF BITS OFF THE GOLD COIN WHEN THEY LITERALLY WORK FOR THE BANKS HANDLING THOSE COINS?”

>>53668958
Wednesday

>>53668883
NIGGA YOU SOUND LIKE YO IQ THE SAME NUMBER AS YO SHOE SIZE STFU

>>53668974
>>53668964

please leave

>>53668839
Nah I can’t just give up and watch the world burn. Gotta put in the work and try to make things better.

>>53668699
They say this every inversion lol

>>53668987
YOU DON’T OWN THIS BOARD NIGGA SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>53668699
>Debt ceiling might not be raised this time
>Inversion of yield curve no longer recession sign
>Inflation not going away and might rise up again

What the fuck kinda year is this?

>>53669011
>YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY BY 2030 GOYIM

>>53669011
It's a year of vocal delusional idiots who are going to lose their shirts when CPI comes in hot again and JPow hikes another 50 bps during the next FOMC.

>>53668964
>IF EVERY SINGLE TRANSACTION EACH PERSON DOES COST A PENNY, THAT PENNY ADDS UP OVERTIME
But it's irrelevant in the context of a 40 million dollar five minute candlestick. There'd be no point in spending effort slowly milking retail over months and years for peanuts when you could instead overpower a candlestick to stop out the other institution and get millions in less than an hour.

>>53669011
>Debt ceiling might not be raised this time
You don't really believe that do you?

>>53668613
scoopsies is dead

LONG LIVE SCOOPSICUS

>>53668541
Thanks OP for this inclusive thread were all members of the BBC+ can have a civil discussion

>>53669026
LMAO HOW LONG DO YOU THINK JEWS HAVE BEEN DOING THIS? THEY’VE BEEN LITERAL MERCHANTS FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS DOING THAT SAME EXACT THING.

>>53669033
And T

>>53669031
I didn't but after seeing the recent bullshit with their incompetence over a fucking balloon, now I do.

>>53669011
the year of absolute cope
they know it's going to be a shit show after everything breaks down
how went Jpow from uberhawk to pussydove within 1 (one) month anyway?

>>53669024
God I hope so, seems like higher inflation is pretty much guaranteed with the way the rest of the world is going recently but a 50 bps increase would bring me around 30% to my retirement goal of having enough money to get 50k annual dividends.

>>53669051
what are you gonna do then? fart until you die?

the rate should be 40%

>>53669026
DO YOU EVER TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR RECEIPTS? WHERE DO YOU THINK THOSE SO CALLED “TRANSFER FEES” GO TOWARDS? NOW COMPOUND THAT WITH MILLIONS OF TRANSACTIONS HAPPENING EACH DAY FOR EACH PERSON OWNING A CARD OR TRADING IN BROKERAGE ACCOUNTS MAKING PURCHASES. IT’S NOT NECESSARILY LITERAL PENNIES, PER SAY.

>>53669037
But you're acting like they're focused on retail when instead they can make big money fast fucking over another institution. You can't make big money within hours fucking over retail because the millions in liquidity simply isn't there like it is with other institutions as your competition.

>>53669085
There's no transaction fee nowadays for somebody buying and selling AAPL or SPY. Even if there was retail wouldn't make up a significant amount of money on any given day.

>>53669094
quite true - muh rothschilds didnt make a fortune pulling pennies from peasants, they made it bilking bullion out of barons, dukes and kings.

does anyone else here use calendar spreads to farm theta and volatility?

>>53669094
NIGGER HOW OLD DO YOU THINK THESE INSTITUTIONS ARE? AND DO YOU REALLY THINK JEWS WONT HELP OTHER JEWS STEAL FROM GOYIMS? THEY LITERALLY GET BAILED OUT BY THEIR FRIENDS IN THE GOVERNMENT EACH TIME TO SAVE THEM FROM DEFAULTING IF THEY FUCK UP ONCE IN A WHILE.

>>53669108
SHORT STOCKS DURING HOLIDAY SEASON

>>53669042
It would be disastrous if they didn't raise and the US loves to spend money so I think they're just gonna kick the can down the road again. The balloon was just political theater

>>53669105
WHERE DID THE BARONS, DUKES AND KINGS AMASSED THEIR FORTUNES? OH THAT’S RIGHT, BY MAKING THEIR PEASANTS PAY TAXES.

>>53669109
wait until another vaxxed NFL player has a heart attack on the field only this time at the Superbowl
maybe this 2000 year pump is finally over

BOIL bros what are the odds that natty gas jumps to 3$ next week?

>>53669109
What does this have to do with the fact that within the competition of trading, it's more attractive to make a big amount of money quickly. And the only way that's possible is getting it from another institution? Retail cannot make them tens or hundreds of millions within hours because they simply don't total up to that kind of money. They're ants. /ES, EURUSD, AAPL, SPY. It's all institutions fucking over other institutions. To pretend that retail is significant to the real action is delusional.

>>53669132
And what do you think will happen when all retail investors who have been buying those tickers pull out all their money at the same time? I’ll give you a hint, Bernie Madoff

>>53669040
does she pretend like she has a baby at home?

What are some good ways to bet against the housing market other than shorting real estate companies?

>>53669128
they werent the jewish ones, though, so im not sure what your point is.

>>53669154
we are the baby

>>53669158
short your neighbor, short his dog, short his kids, short his wife

>>53669143
Nothing because they're a few percent of the volume, that's the whole point. EURUSD or SPY doesn't need retail to buy it.

>>53669167
NAME EVERY SINGLE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION THAT DOESN’T HAVE A JEW IN ANY TYPE OF INFLUENTIAL POSITION IN THAT VERY COMPANY NIGGA I’LL WAIT

>>53669191
what if its just all jews jewing jews?

>>53669190
DO YOUR DD NIGGA

FUCK BASTARD BEECH DR. JAN ITOR FUCK
I used my 3 day vacation to practice some more swing trading. I am for sure more confident in my entries now. Exits and playing the upside are the next piece I will figure out.

>>53669194
It’s jews helping jews jew the goyims, a jew only jews another jew when that jew didn’t want to contribute to their cause. Those jews gets thrown under the bus.

>>53669158
You really think housing will go down?

>the future

>>53669231
It’s already going down

>>53669158
Shorting reits

>>53669259
>trusting Canadians

>>53669131
Take a look at future contracts. They are pricing in natural gas rising once Cheniere goes back to exporting 2% of the entire US nat gas supply daily.

>>53669259
>the future
built for BBC

>>53669259
The future is eating magic mushrooms to connect with the world creature beneath oregon.

>>53669271
Where?

Taxation is theft

>Bullish on my puts

When does it all come crashing down?

>>53669339
I was not expecting that.
Cute

I am assembling a team of those who can get dubs.
YOU IN?
Also,
>HOGS YTD
The SHORTS will PAY

>>53669339
(((they))) will cook the CPI so this fake and gay rally can continue until they revise it one month later (again)

>>53669353
Looks like you're out

>>53669339
it happened in november, 3490

you did buy right?

>>53669353
SOXL GIGA CHADS WILL RISE UP, TREND IS BULLISH TO SHOOT UP TO $50/SHARE

>>53669353
im in

>>53669367
Bros... the aroma...

>>53669363
It was just a test. This general has been found..wanting.
BEHOLD, TRUE DUBS
>>53669376
Who is this semen demon (male)?

i really want to see what happens if this soxl guy's dreams come true

>>53669401
Soxl will probably go below 12$ again and he vanishes like every shill

>>53669367
harder for longer

>>53669259
What the fuck is wrong with these freaks, I use psychedelics but they never made me into a fucking weirdo like this bitch

>>53669407
soxlsama has been surprisingly resiliant to the point obviously playing straddles. no other way he would still have money .

>>53668717
It's unironically different this time. Rates being this high means that fed has more tools available to them in case of troubles. Same goes for reduction in M2. The moment things go south they will cut rates and start printing again.
Economy is strong right now thanks to Biden, and Fed is using this to clean up the mess created during last decade.

>>53669026
Retail, dividends, buybacks and M&A are the only sources of fresh money in the system. Zero-sum game would be boring. Although retail is a very small part of the game still.

>>53669444
If they start printing again inflation will skyrocket again and things will go even further south

>>53669026
Also explain why big money invests into high frequency trading which they use together with orders list routed to them from brokers like Robinhood? They obviously want to scalp retail.

>>53669339
This months CPI print is too optimistic. I think it's May

>>53669481
Inflation going up only affects middle class and poors. I think central banks are ready to make such sacrifice.

>>53668541
>can't buy SPY in a normal way in EU
Fucking bureaucrats...
I wonder if I can get something like CSPX?

>>53669489
HFT, PFOF, market making and so on has nothing to do with the fact that on liquid tickers hundreds of millions are being traded in short periods of time. It's not retail that's doing that, it's institutions. The big money would then be in defeating another institution so you can take their liquidity.

>>53669030
I miss that little nigga like you wouldn’t believe

So as it turns out, animals are raysis. Coons don’t want to live with coons. What are the financial implications of this?

>>53669518
Inflation going up is what causes instability and revolutions. That's the last thing non-middle-class-and-poors want.

Any good stocks to short on regarding sports like golf?

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ominous-sign-internet-searches-cancel-golf-membership-jump

>>53669367
I don't need it to shoot up. Would prefer a nice long crab.

>>53669815
Successful revolutions don't just sprung up they are financed, peasant revolts are crushed.

>>53669044
>how went Jpow from uberhawk to pussydove within 1 (one) month anyway?
He's a nice guy giving everyone a chance to exit before the big dump. But instead people are retard pumping so the institutions can exit.

>>53669858
Then who financed the first revolution?

>>53669858
Whatever inflation causes is bad for profits. Margins get cut. Niggers burn shit. The fed is going to prioritise inflation over your bags.

IS THE IMMINENT ALIEN INVASION BULLISH?

This market is gay

>>53669894
Wdym?
>>53669902
Deflation is even worse for profits. Negroes burn shit in good and bad times. The FED is going to inflate after unemployment rises and the recession hits.

>>53669259
>start to think you're crazy
>see this webm
>wow i'm actually pretty fucking normal

>>53669935
Negros have been conditioned to believe times will always bad for them. This makes it easy to summon them up when you need a little chaos in the streets.

>>53669259
yeah ayahuasca triggered her mental illness she had.

>>53669812
Why pepo less likely to chimp out and attack the animals than the blak pepo. But I wonder if population is lowest in yellow pepo neighborhoods

>>53669968
That is a factual statement.

anyone here playing around with options? any tips for a newbie aside from "just don't"?

>>53670035

Man these threads are so dead on weekends lol.

>>53670088
yeah lol. it's not like the market is closed or anything haha wtf

>>53670102
It should be open. I want my dopamine.

>>53670088
best time to be in these threads desu. comfy, best convos.

>>53670035
Buy with at least 30 days till expiration

Buy when IV Rank is low, at least below 50, preferably below 30

Keep your strike price as close to At The Money as you can afford to. Buying In The Money strikes is more conservative and safer than Out The Money strikes because your break-even is lower, but In The Money strikes are more expensive and some of the leverage is lost a bit. The further Out The Money the strike, the higher the break even and more risky the trade is.

>Russia cut output by 500,000 barrels daily
>Kazakhstan is conducting unscheduled maintenance on one of its biggest oil fields with an output of 230,000 barrels a day
>Still not clear to what extent the oil terminal in Turkey that handles 2% of global oil flow was damaged by the quakes, insiders say the extent of damages will be clear by late next week
Bullish for oil?

>>53670153
only time i ever did good betting on oil was during the pandemic when i bought it when it was basically zero. every time since I guess wrong. I feel like oil should go up in the summer like usual.

Are all of the weird shit happening with lasers in Hawaii, UFOs in Alaska and toxic clouds in Ohio bearish for USA stocks?

>>53670153
Demand is also subject to change, don't tunnel vision on supply.

>>53670041
Why’s the mobster declining the drink?

I hate fats and women

>>53670262
there is a new weight loss drug people are using a bunch but I don't know if it's a public company or not. trying to find it now. lots of rich people using it to drop weight, i think originally it was a diabetes drug

>>53670153
Idk man trading commodities is hard especially when it's on headlines

>>53670274
And equities arent? Earnings Season, FOMC, CPI, Unemployment, PPI, JPow saying some stupid bullshit, the movement of the Dollar, etc etc. Every single day theres some new fucking "pivotal day" in the equities market that could completely 180 your trade and send you back to 0 literally overnight. Sometimes it really is easier just to say fuck it and trade commodities or ETFs.

>>53670291
equities you can value a company at least, you can see if it's being priced cheap or expensive by looking at their 10Ks and 10Qs and seeing what their earnings estimates are. You can also see if the product is good or not.

For oil it's very dependent on things you can't look up.

Which of these would you say aren't recession-proof?

>>53670225
its filled with options..

>>53670298
None of that matters any more when the stock of these individual companies are now all tied up in Sector-based ETF baskets that all the big money use. These ETFs will drag your stock deep into overvaled/undervalued valuations for months on end. Theres a reason why the price action of multiple different types of stocks in the same sector all move exactly the same way on the charts, regardless of each stocks valuation. Their movement now is all just based on the movement of whatever ETF theyre tied to.

>>53668541
Anons, can you explain some things to a noob?
If you do your regular boomer eft investing, if inflation is around 2% you just stick more cash into stocks. If it's deflation you go for cash. But what do you do for hyperinflation or stagflation? I assume eft are not so hot then. Gold, real estate? But real estate as such is too costly for me.

>>53670355
hyperinflation is oil and gold for sure. also risk-on sectors like tech and crypto. maybe bonds if the result of hyperinflation is interest rates suddenly being cut and financial conditions loosening.

stagflation is puts and shorts on everything. at that point everything is fucked.

Uranium

POWW is going to miss earnings next week

>>53670355

Ive been telling you niggers to buy JEPI since October.

KOLD/DRIP anon here, havent posted in a month or so. Finally sold my KOLD and buying BOIL now. Sold my YANG for a nice gain but kinda regret not holding it. Quit my job and moved to live with a friend. Made more trading last year than working pretty based.

Time for puts I think? I am gonna wait until after the CPI I guess. Next week should be spicy. Any of you gaylords actually make any good plays recently?

>>53670416
Im looking at Natural Gas also for next week. UNG tho instead of BOIL.

>>53670351
actually can work in your favor if evaluating a company individually and holding it for a long time, because the indexes and brainlets can drag good companies down to really cheap territory and then you can buy it. most stocks I own I own for 3-4 years or more so I haven't found the day to day stock market movements matter much other than having a list of things I want and the price I will pay for them.

>>53670355
Diversification - start putting some into gold, bitcoin, and real estate. If you don't want to physically own land, REITs are better than nothing. In my boomer vanguard portfolio I have about 75% VTI, 20% REIT and 5% other (gold, btc). Any extra pocket money goes into /smg/ overleveraged gambling etfs

Oil Barons. They Thought We Were Finished. We Were Just Getting Started.

>>53670347
Cars are among the first delayed purchases when people expect bad times ahead or have to budget harder.

>>53670355
>>53670443
Oh, also ibonds are good right now. In the case of true hyperinflation, we're all fucked and there is no way to beat it other than just having physical assets / commodities

>>53670348
Yeeew options

Why is there no trading on weekends? Why wouldnt they open it 24/7 ?

>he didn't all in NOG at open

>>53670469
Wtf I love Nogs now.

>>53670463
>>53670416
>>53670388
thanks

>>53670468
so people can rest and have lives? the worst thing about crypto is it's 24/7 imo.

>>53670455
That‘s yesterday‘s news

>>53670460
True this: during covid times Wife wanted a newer car. I was like "hell no" Partly cause the cost, partly cause all her car needed was a bit of work done and it'd last another 5 years (or more).

>>53670519
Oh yeah well I am reading it today. How about that.

last time jpow said they're not done raising rates, wouldnt that mean buying puts on bond etfs is easy money?

>>53670443
Nice. Another newfag here. This is what I came up with after thinking about it for 2 months.

50% cash (which I'm losing very fast gambling on tqqq/sqqq)
25% VWRL (UK version of VT)
10% REITs (VICI/MAA)
10% VUTY (Treasury notes/bonds)
5% RMAP (papergold)

Comfy being a boomer.

I only have AGG in my portfolio. What other bonds should I look into?

hope you bought the generational dip

>>53670468
If markets were open on weekends, it would hurt the retail investor much more as institutions / funds would have paid teams devoted to trade the overnight hours + weekends, they would be able to cover the 24 hours a day with no issues
you cannot - you have to eat, sleep, attend to your life
A bank with 100 employees wouldn't care, just put people on those shifts. you do not have that flexibility, you have a life
The markets would become even more controlled by big money and algos - it would be much easier for them to manipulate prices during times of low liquidity - if every hedge fund has their algo set to sell at 2:00am, the market will dump hard, and retail investors would not be awake to buy during that time
Panics would be greatly exacerbated, as people would keep selling and panicking overnight - the only buyers would be the institutions; wealth would become even more concentrated in the hands of the banks. Currently market closing at 4 EST and weekends + 5:00-6:00pm EST futures closed gives time for markets to 'cool off' and get their shit together. Humans are emotional and having a night or weekend off helps markets stay more rational - people are able to take a step back and look at all the data, and some may realize that now is the time to buy, helping markets be more two sided with buyers and sellers, instead of just sellers (in times of panic)
Having set hours 9:30am to 4:00pm promotes the most liquidity during that period, instead of having liquidity split up throughout the day. The higher liquidity is, the more fair markets are, the less spread on prices, the more buyers and sellers compete for the best price
Also as mentioned, because even bankers / traders have lives, and want to have days to live them, without having to worry about the markets

>>53670547
In theory yes. But if I'm not mistaken, a lot of hedge funds are making that bet too at this moment so there's always the possibility of a meme squeeze. The other thing to keep in mind is, the gov itself has a ceiling it needs rates to be under so it can pay back it's debt. If something like Yield Curve Control ever comes into play bond shorters will be BTFO. Not saying the bond bear thesis isn't valid just that it's not free money.

When will I get this back? I have no form of income other than a measly divvie that I get which is a drop in a pond. I can't even buy any dips or DCA into anything. I am relying on bidan to give me 10k in student loan forgiveness so I can actually buy back and salvage these losses.

>>53670547
Yes, although I don't about all that decay stuff.

>>53670584
sounds like Im too late in the game again and with my luck the meme squeeze and YCC will happen.

>>53670619
5 years or so. Hang in there.

>>53670582
Thank you for that answer.

>>53670619
>I have no form of income ... I am relying on bidan to give me 10k in student loan forgiveness

>>53670657
To be fair, I never needed any tuition and I payed all of my college myself and graduated with out a single cent in debt. I was just seeing if I still some how can manage to qualify for it cause of the time I spent. Would be pretty funny if I got 10k still.

hahah would it not be funny if natgas shot back up to 4.5$ hahahah

Congress says U.S Govt is running out of money and wants to cut spending (so they say). Now if I wanted to keep myself in congress would I touch S.S or Medicare, two programs a lot of people rely on? Hell no. I'd might as well resign if that happened. The backlash would be extreme. Everything else though would be on the cutting block.

>>53670582
> the only buyers would be the institutions; wealth would become even more concentrated in the hands of the banks.
What does that say about bitcoin always being active then? Those do fine always being open. Does that mean its the banks and institutions doing most of the price action that happens?

>>53670555
Nice. Boomer approved. If you don't need the cash immediately see if there are any short term bonds available which have decent aprs. But one year of shit inflation won't really hurt any cash positions and I think there will be buying/slurping opportunities during that time. I guess the thing I learned is to be patient and not panic with the headline of the day.

>>53670686
If I were president I would sign an executive order to immediately end SS and medicare payments on the grounds that mandatory spending is a national security risk since it can cause a default. Nobody in my generation is going to get any of those dollars anyways might as well collapse the ponzi scheme now.

>>53670416
The guy who was shilling SKYT for months ended up being right about it.

>>53670689
the market cap of BTC is $418 billion
the cap of the bond market is $119 trillion worldwide, $46 trillion US
stock market $40.5 trillion US
BTC is traded worldwide, and still has very low liquidity, even at just $418 billion cap
there is not enough liquidity in overnight trading to support $119 / $46 trillion & $40.5 trillion assets
>does that mean its the banks and institutions doing most of the price action
yes, but that is true of every asset class

>>53670673
Why do you think the 'loan forgiveness' would be in the form of a $10,000 check?

>>53670747
Because in this case , I was in college when the pandemic hit and the way they worded it on their site, I could be qualified for it even if I didn't actually take out a loan. Simply attending during that window of time could be enough. But this argument is all moot anyways since this shit immediately got tied up in court which is hilariously on brand.

>>53670685
Is that even possible? I thought natural gas only went downwards

>>53670769
its really low if you check the chart
laws of the universe state line go up again
refilling season is coming
im not saying it will, but it could

>>53670695
Cheers mate.
>short term bonds available which have decent aprs
I've actually been thinking about this because I already lost nearly 20% of my cash gambling. I'll see how it goes on the cpi. If I lose again, I'll accept that I suck and definitely find a t bill fund. Shocking how easy it is to lose big.

>>53670262
>my vagina stinks so badly that i can smell it even covered by layers of fat

always go with ur gut so u cant blame anyone else except smg

my gut tells me to fomo back into oil but i have no cash and i dont want to sell my other tickers

>>53670832
buy brapgas and fuel my long

The only stocks/ETFs I will buy is NEE, DOLE, O, KO, JNJ, CAT, and VOO

You ARE long on orange juice, right anon? You won‘t just let the Jews take all the profit for themselves… right?

>>53671219
i dont like pulp

>>53671219
>orange jews

The liquid jew, no thanks

>>53671219
There aren’t any good orange juice plays to be made. I hope you have a large portion of your portfolio tied up in orange juice plays.

So currently 20+ bonds are below the fed's yield and not even 4%
Is this because there is a delay with LTT catching up? Like since the fed rate is 4.75% can we expect LTT to eventually hit or go above that?

>>53670525
How hairy is your wife’s pussy?

dead thread

>>53671573
It's a Saturday, it's always dead. This was also a week heavy with spergouts so I suppose everyone needs some rest

What do you think of Samudera Shipping?

DCF here: https://valuestock.substack.com/p/samudera-shipping-line-ltd

>>53671315
SEXXOOO PANTYHOSEEE
>lookup image
>already have it favorited
heh

>>53670262
semaglutide, (Ozempic, Wegovy and Rybelsus) for appetite suppression. Novo Nordisk, NVO.

and metformin as a diabetes treatment also with longevity benefits.

“ Produced under license by Bristol-Myers Squibb, Glucophage was the first branded formulation of metformin to be marketed in the U.S., beginning on 3 March 1995.[147] Generic formulations are now available in several countries, and metformin is believed to have become the world's most widely prescribed antidiabetic medication.”

That one might not be investible due to being older.

I’m typically an Oil Chad, not a drug investor. but health and wellness is an area of interest

>>53670769
Nah it actually should go up any week now. Normal trading range should be between 3.5 and 4.5$.
The RSI is really fucking low for a whole month now.
Highly oversold in my opinion.

>>53670262
The cope is really hard with this one.
A healthy normal vagina of a healthy girl shouldnt smell like almost anything.

>>53670455
Networth back up 1mm yesterday. Days like that make me a little nervous. But I held through the slump to see the end of SPR dumps, so I’m gonna hold for now and watch the fireworks.

>>53671315
FFR has nothing to do with long term bonds. If anything from the Fed would affect long term rates it would be reduction of their balance sheet.

THREAD THEME
https://youtu.be/U2wtIIT9hMU

>>53670416
Sold some OXY and rolled into DO at 7.28 average. Also averaged into BORR at 5.30 before they diluted, which sucked. But it’s come alive in the last couple days.

Been living off withdrawals on margin until I’m ready to make a withdrawal from my big boy retirement account. Have worked a day in 14 months.

>>53670035
you are competing against models smarter than chatGPT but tailor made to fleece newbies like you

>>53670388
Tech doesn’t do well in inflation because they will keep raising rates.

Tech and Oil are nearly inverse

https://youtu.be/Iv4x0TC-1Qg
Sup smiggers

>>53671315
what's LTT stand for?

>>53671996
long term trans

I‘m super long on WTI oil contracts. Excpext a poomp to around $85 a barrel next week, especially with the damage to that Turkish oil terminal. Wanna diversify later and just buy Exxon and sit on that.
Your thoughts?

>>53672035
XOMs activist board members made me nervous so I rolled into OXY. Which warren buffet fueled to the best performing SP500 stock of 2022.

He’s been cleared to buy a controlling stake, so that remains possible.

XOM has also done well despite the rats on the board and it pays a fat dividend. It’s become a bit of a hedge fund hotel, which makes me nervous. But oil still has lots of upside imo.

>>53669830
VSTO?

I wonder what Tesla has planned on the 1st. I’ve heard they’re working on a really low cost EV for everyone in the $20k range. Like Hitler and the beetle, but for modern times. Will he do it bros?

>>53672268
I hope he announces the $100k price hike for the cybertruck he ranted about last year.

>>53671985
don't call me a smigger!

>>53672281
They’re doing something right. I never really took them seriously, but the recent earnings call was one of the only positive calls I listened to this season.

>>53672351
>$9,5k per car
holy fuck what a ripoff

>>53672332
Dont tell me what to do, smigger.
https://youtu.be/oMGvuiZfS_o

>>53672351
>Ford

what the fuck are these clowns doing?

>>53672364
And yet they’re flying off the shelves. Weird. Even people in mobile home parks have teslas. I don’t want one as my skyactiv fits my needs perfectly, but I do want to buy a power wall soon. I’m honestly more interested in their energy storage which only currently makes up 9.5b of their income.

>>53672400
Laying off thousands of employees. As someone who drives a Ford I can tell you confidently that you should never buy a Ford.

>>53672400
Losing money, apparently.

>>53672376
here have a better version of that gif. i'm tired of you posting that shit one

>>53672415
Seeing those numbers i would rather buy a NIO as you get more value per buck.

>SKYT up 0% today
Wow...

>>53672433
Better run to your nearest NIO dealership then.

>>53672433
>buying chink cars

anon...................

>>53672351
Long TSLA short NIO pair?

>>53672429
Дpyзья мoи, бoльшoe cпacибo!
https://youtu.be/mtsv9ezc_pQ

>>53672457
What about the device you are typing on right now?

>>53672433
Anon you don't want anything that has an engine, built by chinks. Trust me.

>>53672400
making the deadliest car in america apparently

>>53672457
Buying chink...
Oh wait a moment. Nearly 90% of all Items i use are produced in china.
Hell, most parts of german cars are produced in china.

>>53672498

>>53672498
Mexico builds better shit than chinks

>>53672523
Oh really? So apple should move their factories to mexico?

>>53672534
apple has moved a shitload of production out of chyna already

>>53672534
Yes, Intel and other companies are already making plans to open semiconductor facilities in the northern part of the country.

>>53672523
Dont know anon, i dont own anything produced in mexiko.
Do they actually produce something?
Except gore videos and drugs?

>>53672523
its pretty widely agreed that the Teslas built in China are better made than the ones built in the US lol

>>53672549
To where? India, Mexico, Vietnam?

>>53672559
https://oec.world/en/profile/country/mex

Mexico is one of the greatest producers of electronics and cars.

>>53672577
india

also, weekend /smg/, should I short Funko? Hasbro keeps talking about how they're struggling from toy sales being down.

>>53672586
Lol did you see that indian factory? LOL LMAO EVEN

YEAH, I STARTED FROM THE BOTTOM
AND I'M STILL AT THE BOTTOM
AND I SPENT THE NIGHT IN JAIL
TURNED OUT IT WASN'T THE BOTTOM
AND MY LIFE IS LIKE A PILL
THATS HARDER TO SWALLOW

>>53672599
>your life

It's just cope. Reshoring chinese production will take decades and most technology will be lost forever.

>>53672594
What a strange way to cope, chinkman

>>53672643
See >>53672635
I am a realist. Not a chink. You are delusional.

>>53672611
I thought they were professionals

>>53668541
Yo i would slide my WIENER in between those FAT lips.

>>53668541
>REMEMBER WHEN TIM WORKED HERE?

Who's Tim?

>>53672611
>stopping the timer before he reached the finish line
I wish they would have kept it going and called that his official time, both for a laff and to respect his dedication.

Who’s going to win the Super Bowl

>>53672794
Whoever runs the best ad

>>53672577
>>53672583
CEO of JPM appatently said in an interview offhandedly that Mexico has a secured supply chain and cheap labor. I wanna funnel lots of cashmoney into EWW

why is natty gas dying so hard?

>>53672872
copypaste from a previous discussion
This is the bear case for natural gas, not trying to convince you to take a position either way - I have no position - presenting solely as what a natural gas bear would say
>this is the #1 most important:
https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/drastic-shift-in-natural-gas-outlook/
>Assuming Europe does not experience a prolonged cold spell in the current heating season, the region should exit the 2022/23 winter with storage above 50% full. This is significantly higher than the 26% seen at the end of the last heating season and above the five-year average of 34%.
having storages 2x last year, 1.5x longterm averages means that there is a huge surplus of supply. not only is this surplus of supply suppressing prices now, but the higher storages make it much easier to fill them by next winter, a lot of months to refill them = less stress on supply, they have until november to fill to 80%, and they'll already be at 50%
>this is the #2 most important
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-01/mild-february-will-help-extend-europe-s-gas-storage-buffer
the weather. it has been an extremely warm winter (resulting in storages being more full) and it is likely to continue to be warm based on heating degree days estimates
not only is the weather in Europe very warm, it is very warm in the US and Asia. There have been cold spells that create fear - but they've all cleared up in less than a week; there has been a lot of fear about the weather suddenly getting cold this whole season, and it has never materialized
the weather is the most important decider for natural gas - if you believe that you can predict future weather greater than individuals with access to the top weather data / their own proprietary models it is a difficult market to create an edge in
>natural gas production is very high in the US
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-natgas-output-hit-record-high-2023-demand-fall-2023-01-10/

>>53672872
have you been outside all winter?

>>53672872
>>53672903
if you want to inform yourself on natural gas, heating degree days, weather forecasts, modeling etc, read everything put out on this website
https://www.naturalgasintel.com/
use archive. ph to avoid the subscription
also would recommend frequently searching google with time filter to last week
>bloomberg natural gas
to stay on top of international news in natural gas markets

>>53672903
ty. yeah i watched some charts and they look like made some nice bear moves. maybe its too late now.

>>53672904
maybe

new
>>53672943

>>53672943

>>53672943

>>53671996
long term treasuries
i.e. probably the most ignored asset class and a big sleeper