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depends entirely on whether you blow the entirety of your enlistment and re-enlistment bonuses on sweet cars and then marry the stripper with the biggest fucking tits you ever saw and then find out she fucked literally everyone in town while in your car while you were away and now shes taking half your shit and moving out oh fuck my life

no.

>>53613773
They make you think you get a hot military girlfriend and a baboon ass with their propaganda but what they don't tell you is that recruits have to choose one or the other, they don't let you have both.

>>53613773
u should ask Ben Mallah

>>53613773
what jobs even still exist that offer an actual retirement plan lime the pensions boomers got? Like 2

Probably the worst time to join the military since the early 60s. Two war monger US parties with a disaffected populace and a loosening grip on world trade. And desperate nations taking advantage of the financial crisis to attempt landgrabs.
It's just pure rng whether you'd get deployed and survive a drone swarm.

>>53614126
Future soldiers will carry light weight back packs and/or Big Dog robo-mules that project emp/maser energy shield defenses against swarms.
Drone swarms won't be a problem for properly equipped infantry, so humans are still relevant in combat.
The big problem is soldiers posting their locations to social media mid-battle from their smart phones.

>>53613773
You could get some easy meme degree then enlist in military as an officer. Kind of wish I had done this, too old now

>>53614165
Ok sounds good join the military fr

>>53613773
The military destroys your soul

>>53614186
Not until infantry doctrine is fully updated to the realities of modern technology. Half the kill videos on the Ukraine war subreddit are consumer tier drones gerry rigged to drop grenades on infantry.

I found the paychart online. https://www.dfas.mil/Portals/98/Documents/militarymembers/militarymembers/pay-tables/2023%20AC_RC%20Pay%20Table1.pdf?ver=NUrUfCrNLYPqk6TT20HCXw%3D%3D

You could literally make more just selling cars at a car dealership. Who the fuck would join the military, enlisted or officer?

What’s a good branch to join for a 39 year old

>>53613773
Have fun dying for kikes

>>53614288
You're not accounting for the fact living costs are mostly all paid for plus bonuses

>>53613773
it's only worth it if you're an officer.

>>53614165
But I need my updoots...

What branch would take me as a 30 year old with a gimpy foot?

>>53614493
none all the people in the military lie about their medical conditions. you have to act like you're in perfect health because of VA disability, but GOOD FUCKING LUCK PASSING BASIC, OR CARRYING HEAVY SHIT FOR MILES LMFAO

>>53613773
no because it's not like that anymore. there are a couple of veterans who have social media accounts, and beyond advocating for zog they actually are honest enough to admit that AT THE MOMENT the only thing the military is worth is prettying up a resume same thing you could do going into a community college attempting to transfer. if you're under the impression you can live through the military good fucking luck.

>>53614231
Yeah, it'll be so much better when they have integrated grenade launchers mounted to LM-built drones instead.

>>53613773
>20 year retirement
uhhh... Who's gonna tell him?
https://www.usa.gov/military-pay

>>53613835
Once a boot, always a boot lol.

It entirely depends on what branch you decide. First thing is to get a good ASVAB so you’re not just relegated to infantry, no matter how hard a recruiter may push you. The benefits are all the same once you retire: whether you did that in the Army/Marine Corps as a grunt with countless mental scars and possibly physical ones, or rather you skated by in a comfy office in the Navy/Air Force.

>>53614288
That is more like your disposable income than your total salary. A young enlisted guy is always cash flush but poor as shit, for a multitude of reasons. I came home from my deployment with 25k

>>53613773
If you're literally a teenager and otherwise a massive fuckup at life, yes go do four years of service. I regret not doing it myself at that same point in my life. If you're over 25 and have any health issues at all or worse are overweight, don't even fucking think about it. They probably won't want you since you'll be too old and set in your ways to be broken and molded into what they want. Otherwise if you can deal with it being a constant shitshow and hating most of the people above, below, and at your level then there's worse jobs out there. If you're not a complete retard you can even get some certification or experience in a civilian relevant field, and there's far worse things than being a diesel mechanic with experience working on tanks and trucks.

>>53613773
no.
The only maybe is if you 100% career orient around rank advancement. If you can make officer and make it to major MAYBE its sort of ok, you will have a poverty line pension at 39 and have given up your best years in what is currently the shittiest and most woke military on earth.
i have a good friend that is 9 years into af right now, which is the gayest branch by far, but the stories he tells are actually straight out of the onion.
if you actually care about not participating in something completely pozzed, don't do it.

A drone is going to drop a grenade onto your fucking head and you won't even know what got you

>>53613773
pro tip:

Join rotc

go to undergrad with military paying for all/most of it.

when you are about to graduate, say you want to go to dental school.

Get military to pay for it and also give you living stipend

become dentist.

RThen choose your own adventure:

> do 5 years fixing the horrid teeth of all the complete trash enlisted people. then separate from service and find a 50 year old private practice dentist that specializes in family dentistry in the wealthy suburbs of whatever city you want to live in. Work for him for 5 years, then become partner. You are now 32 years old and he is 57 and ready to retire. Buy practice from him. at age 40, buy beach house or ski chalet (your choice). age 42, buy rental properties. age 45, buy boat or other vacation/rental property. take on ex service dentist like you were and start working 3 days a week. age 50, go to 2 days a week and start selling practice to new guy. add another young dentist to increas competition for buying your practice and making it more valuable. age 55, sell practice with right to work up to 100 days a year and also get 20% residuals for 20 years.
fully retired with $8 million in assets (adjust for inflation) and steady passive income of $150-200k by age 57

> Stay in military for 25 years, making good money with good benefits and invest it. Get resign bonuses every 2-4 years of up to $150k. invest 100% of these bonuses in something like a shwab dividend etf. Buy beach house and rental houses (or ski house). separate at age 50 or so and collect military pension. work for a corporate dental provider 2-3 days a week 40 weeks a year and emergency on call and make additional $200k+ a year. Do that til you don't feel like doing that anymore.

>>53613773
The full 20 years is hardly guaranteed, you could get force reduced by year 5

>>53616311
force reduce is mostly to cull the freeloaders. They say its for whatever reason, but if you are actually a valuable member of service you won't get reduced.

>>53616339
Has nothing to do with performance at all, more like which MOS you picked and whether they decide it's overstaffed one day. If you want the full 20 you have to consider retraining at least once in your career, likely in a combat role

>>53615668
Tell us a story. It was bad already in 2010s, I want to see how much worse it has gotten.

>>53615668
Is AF gayer than Navy? Pretty much every fag I know was in the Navy and had orgies on air craft carriers.

Interestingly, tho, never heard a gay story about a submariner.

>>53616416
I think aligns with what I meant. If you are actually worth a shit and smart enough to follow the bonuses through the "right" MOS, you can avoid it.

best bet, tho is to try for Non-com if you can't get to college and become full officer.

the other part is non-coms are the most hirable outside of service.

>>53613773
I commend the military for going with the times with this ad, yet this is just as useless as the old ads where you turned into a helicopter and fought a dragon. At least those were cool.

no. the pay rates haven't increased in 20 years and you will qualify for food stamps.
however, WWIII has started and odds are good you won't live to see 20 years.
Join the FFL and learn French and get a French passport and become a real fucking man.

Dumb niggers, they vaccinate the shit out of you to make sure that you can’t even move or die after retirement.

>>53613773
Propaganda

>>53616814
>qualify for food stamps
Ha I remember an article about that. It’s pathetic and humiliating.
As for which is gayer, that is a battle still going on today. The first tranny I saw was an ftm nigger in the navy, but around the same time I saw furries in the af. Both trannies and furries are more widespread and in other branches now. It’s demoralizing to be a normal person in the military and I’m happier not in that shit.

>>53616885
they rescinded the covid vaccine requirement because their recruitment numbers dropped so drastically. Everyone that got kicked out for not taking the vaccine is back in, with no vaxx needed.

>>53614296
Suicide Squad. It's very top secret. They recruit you and pump you full of all sorts of experimental chemicals and technology because they figure you're the walking dead already.

>>53613886
It's a fucking tiktok-tier comedy sketch. The guy having a huge ass is clearly just to gather more attention, probably his shtick.

Stop thinking everything is propaganda trying to get to you. It's not healthy.

>>53616994
You still have to take all of the “regular” shots, enjoy Gulf War Syndrome.

>>53617050
you are propaganda.
Everyone on this site knows the law against the USA government and military to wage propaganda campaigns against it's own civilians was repelled.

The communist/connectionist conspiracy is literal species suicide as it is being committed in tandem with the rise of machine intelligence.

>>53616973
I dont actually GaF about fags in the military or women, but I think we need a war so we can move the trannies and furries to fronts and accidentally gas our own troops.

It's not likely to make you rich by itself, but it's not a bad move either.

30 years ago, yes. Those pensions were insane, they literally had to create a program to try and convince people to get out early because it was so unaffordable for the government. I have multiple relatives making six figures in retirement from it.
Now, no. The program is largely self-funded (similar to a 401k) with only a small pension tied to it. Benefits are still good though, and I think it's a viable career path if you're looking for a reliable way to get out of poverty.

>>53617214
They’ll be in the rear, physically and figuratively. It’s like how niggers are put in Logistics to (poorly) man a warehouse instead of fucking up elsewhere, or Administration or some other bullshit job. They are all like women, a hindrance to the job. However, that job is to be pawns for israel so let it all collapse under its own stupidity.

>>53616488
>airman of the month award given
>little celebration/gathering
>cake is bought(its summer)
>cake has fruit decorations in frosting
>one of them is a watermelon slice, amongst many
>official complaint of 'dats racist filed'
>full investigation ordered by wing commander

>>53617302
It's actually pretty impressive how badly they have fucked up recruiting by alienating their traditional recruiting base. Between vaccine mandates, picking sides in the culture wars, and forcing woke policies on actual combat units, our enemies couldn't have devised a more effective way at collapsing the military from the inside.

>>53617515
its insanity
>shats

>>53613773
If you want bitches, just hit up army wives. Those whores spread their legs for anyone that isn't their husband

>>53613773
>is it a good idea to die for zog?

>>53617515
You seem to think our enemies didn't devise this plan and cultivate a divisive cult of victimhood aty either end of the political spectrum to make sure it was instituted.

I'm moving to Portugal where they have reasonable abortion laws and generally ignore trannies and such without offcially coddling them.

>>53617716
When I was in the Coast Guard a long time ago, the T-Shirt read "Coasties make better lovers. Ask a Navy Wife"

>>53617173
Ok schizo, keep focusing on false enemies to feel awoken by believing you got some arcane knowledge or whatever.

>>53613773
yeah, join either the russian or ukranian army

>>53613773
/fit/ here
how do i get my ass that big?

>>53617050
I didn't even look at the reply you were responding to.
this post
>>53613886
is a joke you dummy. IDK why you said my post was insinuating that OP was propaganda. I said literally nothing about propaganda in that post.

>>53613773
>Haha big booty on da man and da mutt girl wif da makeup
Military recruitment is the only part of the government I still support. Taking the most retarded people in the country and letting afghans or whoever maim and murder them is beyond based. Wish they would send troops to mexico so we could kill two birds with one stone.

>>53616676
there is NOTHING gayer than the navy, this isn't even about one navy or another. All naval officers are gay as fuck. Army is pretty gay too, full of butt fuckers.
>t. my cousin joined navy and became a flaming faggot unironically.

>>53617763
I'm sure soviets/ russians, chinese, and israelis did encourage it, but that's just it. Help the radicals push their ideology until it starts destabilizing the country. The seeds were already planted thanks to individualism and women's liberation, but America at least was able to balance them out.

>>53613773
Yeah man. Get that sign on bonus. Go enlist in the army or marines right now, or even go for a fuel tech in the air force or an electrician in the Navy. Go CB or mechanic. Go infantry now so you'll be ready when we go to war with China. Too late for valor in Ukraine, you'll be right on time to be a hero in Taiwan.

Go an hero, anon.

>>53618269
The reason why division is taking place is because of the hivemind effects of social media. There is no room for dissent or reasonable conversation of any kind and hivemind like tactics are used to surveil and control opposition. Ironically it is the diminishing of individuality in society by the internet and social media that has destroyed the ability for groups to have meaningful conversations or express critical thinking publicly. In my opinion at least.

Or you know what? Go shack up on post and report at 5am day after day after day for PT and field drills. Be like Rambo. Be like Terminator.

Go be a hero, son.

>>53616676
>>53618148
Tell me some gay kinky stories. I want to hear more about it. Also how gay is the Marines? Do they also have all male orgies too? Asking for a friend.

All the skanky INNER CITY BLACK AND LATIN*X clam chowder you CAN HANDLE. So many possibilities.

Just do it anon.
Go kill yourself.

>>53616265
this is actually the best life advice I've yet to see on this board, everyone should just do this. Dentist or orthodontist is literally the cushiest doctor and getting it all paid for by the military is the absolute ascended giga-brain S+ play.

>>53613773
Both of them are in transition. That's the joke.

>>53614223
The American military where you're surrounded by literal Africans and weird little south Americans, and your commandersare literal transgender pup-play bdsm mulattos, maybe. But in white, non satanic countries, it's 9/10, would recommend.

>>53618054
squats

>>53613773
>Thirsty for barracks bunny
>Fucks mostly BBC
>Manage to get past her solar system of beta orbiters who do most of her work
>Talk to girl outside of professional topics
>Catch multiple EO/SHARP violations
Ngmi to 20 years bro. This retired after 20+ years. AMA.

>>53618843
but i have been!
>>53618873
did you go rich consultant or bitter disability claimer on your way out?

>just join the military bro, our country is so great it's worth giving your life for it!
yeah, no government is worth giving your life over

Is it smart to join the navy or the army at 36 if I’m /fit/ as fuck with no health issues? Or is it too late?

>>53616265
Do the first one plus natty guard to keep the pension growing

>>53614183
>Officer
Only in the Air Force. Maybe the Navy. You won't get an interesting job with a meme degree. Cutthroat competition between your "friends". If you suck max dick and never fuck up, you might be able to retire as O-5 with 20 years.

>>53614231
Most jobs in the military are something like working at the post office or DMV.

>>53615337
Oh, shit. That's right. They are on the BRS now. Is high 3 completely gone?

>>53616265
This, or other medical specialty. If, you actually want to go into medicine. You'll hate it if you don't love it.

>>53617291
Yes. Making about $90k+ just on retirement. Don't hate.

>>53617345
Accurate.

>>53617515
>They fucked up
I can assure you, they have their best people on this.

>>53617716
Accurate.

>>53618789
Accurate.

>>53618909
Bitter disability claimer. The psych interview is your time to shine. Dig deep. Put on the performance of your life. I did everything short of getting my guns taken away and put on a watch list.

I still could get a contracting job. People I know from service call me all of the time to work with them as a contractor. I have my own businesses. Multiple income streams. I fired the last bad boss I will ever have.

>>53619138
>I can assure you, they have their best people on this.
Fucking it up more, or fixing it? I saw the military begrudgingly admit their latest recruiting campaign (the woke cartoon one), completely backfired, but I'm curious if they are even partly aware how all this woke shit is being used effectively as counter-propaganda.

>>53618989
>36
I am pretty sure they still take you up to 40yo. It all depends on what sort of work you want to do.

>>53619218
>Fixing it
Lol. Lmao even. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
>Woke
I think the word you are looking for is Bolshevik.

>>53619278
>Lol. Lmao even. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
Roger, that's what I wanted to know.

>>53613773
somebody get this dude on aromatase inhibitors.

>>53618989
you have to be pretty desperate to join at 36. pay will be shit compared to where you'd be if you were successful at that age.
try air force because you won't have to work as hard

>>53619330
We use to call that plan B. Old guys knock around for a few years then decide to "get their life together" by joining the military.

>>53615337
Sounds like it used to be socialist and they fixed it.

>>53613773
Army infantry? No. Space Force cyber warrior? Yes.

>>53616732
A grunt with no degree who can't translate skills to civilian life is the most hirable outside of service. They'll surely dazzle the HRs and managers who only know value the university system, they definitely won't be treated as second class citizens in the civilian world

If you train in something with civilian value, you're at risk of being sent home early, with a GI Bill and benefits. If a 20 year military career matters to you, you'll take the meat shield combat jobs, or something else that has no value outside the military, other than private security or police. CTE or missing legs or your face burnt off will score you government checks

>>53613773
this reminds me of how funny it is when you see a couple and the dude's ass is bigger than his gf's

>>53613773
how dumb are you zoomer?

>>53614183
>>53619138
You don't enlisted as a commissioned officer, that's why it's a commission. If you have a meme degree or less than 3.5 gpa most recruiters won't help men become officers either. NCOs are enlisted 'officers' who are all subordinate to daddy's little whore in the officer academy. Joke force.

>>53614362
>>53615483
>25k
Again he can make more selling cars living with his parents or some shit.
>paid for by the military
Living in a shitty bunk is not living.
>plus bonuses
Which you get from literally being deployed lmao.

>>53615337
>system designed to benefit boomers the most
>everyone else can eat shit
Kek of course.

>>53616265
Literally the only time I've seen someone say "join the military" and the advice wasn't total fucking garbage kek.

>>53617515
The empire doesn't care. Once you realize boomer mentality is that "it runs itself" you realize why everything is falling to shit. Because it doesn't run itself.

>>53613835
Many such cases!
>>53614183
A good path, I'd recommend the ROTC scholarship to any anon. Definitely stay either air force or navy fr. Pay is waaayy better than enlisted and you'll essentially get free education before and after when you leave the service with the GI bill
>>53614223
No arguments here senpai
>>53614382
Absolutely, enlisted pay and life is hell
>>53613773
No. There are diminishing returns after a 4 year stint. Full 20 is absolutely essential and a good financial move if you are book dumb and will never go to college and are on your way to the trades anyway. If you're gonna break your body for a living may as well get the early pension plus veterans disability, healthcare, and benefits.
If you are smart and college is a possibility then officer pay and benefits are much more competitive early on, however once you have 4+ years experience there's a lot more money to be made outside the service especially if you have specialized MOS, security clearance, etc

>>53619330
>you have to be pretty desperate to join at 36. pay will be shit compared to where you'd be if you were successful at that age.
I literally don't understand why people keep making stupid ass posts like this when we had the covidcession 3 years ago and now we're having the tech recession. It's like americans are physically unable to admit the economy is falling apart.

>>53613773
Maybe if you started 22 years ago and didn't get mandated to take the vaccine, and you weren't going to be fighting China for the right of Chinese men to experience gay anal love

>>53616885
This. EVERYONE I know who joined the military got fucked up in some way. The lucky ones just had knee and joint problems. Those who saw combat developed substance abuse problems, and some had PTSD. The really unlucky one had permanent nerve damage, and can barely move without being zonked out his gourd on pain meds. His job in the air force (loading bombs onto planes) put him in contact with extremely dangerous chemicals, but the retard actually believed the military when they told him the damage came from standing on pavement for too long! Make money elsewhere, its not worth crippling yourself for ZOG and Raytheon.

>>53614165
They will carry field use dilators and reference books for everyone individuals soldiers' pronouns

>>53616265
Don't you still have to qualify and get accepted to dental school though? Like medical school it's not a done deal and getting accepted is the hardest part

>>53613773
It is. Didn't have a single thought about being able to retire at 38 when I joined at 18, but glad it worked out for me. I enlisted as a 11B (infantry) because I was young and wanted to shoot and fight in a war. 9/11 happened while I was in training and shipped out about 6 months after tech school graduation. After my first enlistment, I had my fill and lucked out not getting injured/killed. I retrained in communications (RF trans/SATCOM) and spent the rest of my career there. Retired at E-8 which I luckily got promoted about 2 years before I retired. It was more of a place holder and didn't have to be real master seargant. I just layed low since I knew I wanted to get out. Then I worked for Raytheon and L3 communications, working on the same equipment but on the civilian side making 3 times more and way less stress lol. Truly double dipping collecting my retirement from military and my normal pay check. Im also eligible for "free" medical but Id rather pay through my civvy job since my premiums are low, and the VA service fuckin sucks balls.

>>53613773
I still new to the military but personally I've more or less already made my decision to not reenlist, it's not for me (so far, that could change) but I would see if there are any other options

>>53618054
>calls himself /fit/
>doesn't know how to glutemax
It's more disappointing than surprising given the absolute fucking state of the board these days with all the cunts constantly raiding the board but there you go
Squats
Hip thrusts
Hyperextensions for working the areas around dem cheeks
Oats. lots and lots of oats

>>53613773
Only if you're facing homelessness, even then just do 4 years and get out.
Talk to any enlisted vet; you will not make it to 20 without significantly reducing your lifespan due to health complications. The only reason the government can afford the retiree plan is because these people don't live nearly as long as civilians. Also they cut the 20year thing sometime in the mid2010s, you'll get less than any of those guys by 10% I think.

Assuming you aren't a recruiter shill, go ask /k/ and hopefully they'll talk you out of your idiocy.

>>53613773
yes just before WW3 start. Genius anon. pic related is your GF when you are getting shot

>>53617515
What the actual fuck are you talking about? I fucking hate vets that go full right once they leave the service larping like that's how people actually are in the active forces. Pro tip
>It was always gay
>It always sucked ass
>X service members back in 'MY day' were stronger and tougher than today's soft buttercup pussies
Quit being a faggot anon

>>53621452
>What the actual fuck are you talking about?
>https://www.moaa.org/content/publications-and-media/news-articles/2022-news-articles/facing-a-perfect-storm-the-military-recruiting-crisis/
>Not only does the American South supply roughly 40% of all military recruits, but around eight in 10 people who sign up to serve in the military also have a close family member who has worn the uniform.
I'm asking if all the new policies that the Military is bringing it that could be perceived as "woke" are hurting recruiting from their traditional base, i.e., poor white people from the south. The military is ~25% under recruitment goals. That's a big deal.

>>53621018
you have no idea what you are talking about.

non-coms are perfect for government jobs and civil engineering firms and construction companies because they are good at following the rules and telling dumbasses to get back to work, which are like the two things people who weren't in the military suck at.

>>53621593
The military is a jobs program. It's full of DEI just like the civilian work force. Only a very small percentage of the force has a combat related job. Only a percentage of those people are actually good at combat. Basically, you need a force of over 1 million just to get <100k actual fighters. The rest of the force just looks at you like you're retarded.

>>53621315
sort of. there is a dearth of new dentists in the US.

So yes, you have to get good grades and shit and take the right classes, but if its your plan, you do that.

>>53614165
Future soldiers will still just be Cannon fodder. Nobody cares if you die, why do you think you will be the one getting the limited top tier gear?
You will be handed an AR and told to do as your owner says

>>53621659
Lol, no. Most NCOs are horrible managers. The military is simply another government agency with the usual government efficiency.

>>53621713
>Future soldiers
Future former soldiers will just collect government gibs just like the current crop.

>>53619234
Thank you anon. I just want to make some decent money and get that pension. I’ve been working dead end jobs, and saved up $40k but I feel that isn’t enough.
>>53619330
Air Force sounds fun. I’ll look into it. Thanks anon. I’m looking ti secure my future since covid hit my finances hard taking care of my parents & ill brother.

Only like 15% of military make it to 20 for various reasons, and there is a good argument to be made that those that do stay are at best mediocrities because the best of the best got out already for high paying civilian or contractor jobs. I don't know why anyone with a secret or top secret clearance would stay the 20.

>>53621820
Tricare for life is pretty lit.

>>53613773
I did 4 years. They get more than 20 years of wrok/damage out of your body and you work more than 40 hours a week often. Not ideal for raising kids/ having a wife. you can make more on the outside, just invest

>>53613773

Some people make the right moves and it pays dividends. My dad did 21 years in the military and now he has a pension on top of another six-figure salary doing some jazz with space equipment.

Others fuck it up magnificently like the Senior Chief I knew who thought the $50k he saved up was going to get him to actual retirement age. He was a moron. Don't be like him

>>53616814

>Join the FFL

Yes, because getting yelled at by Africans and Slavs wanted for murder in their home countries is much preferred

>>53621841
Is it worth sticking it out in a job that pays 1/4 of what you could be making in the private sector and demands essentially unpaid OT?

>>53621820
>top secret clearance would stay the 20.
yup that's why I did 4

>>53613773
Yes. Don't get killed.

>>53619138
>Accurate
The worst of it really, beyond the fact that the person that filed the complaint was not hazed to point of being suicidal, is instead coddled, given easy duty, counseling offered.
The person complaint is lodged against is guilty, no recourse, has to, with a straight face sit and be explained how they are a racist asshole, everything they have done is tainted, and generally spoken to like they are a mongoloid.
The entire thing is 100% performative and everyone knows its, but they all participate in the lie.

>>53613773
i'd recommend not to die for israel

He looks like a chorizo, what's up with that body type?

>>53622033
Coin flip. So many variables. It depends on your job. If you are doing something you like to do, or is so unique it really doesn't exist in the civilian world. The civilian sector is full of unpaid OT - especially if you are a contractor. I know so many people who became contractors. They were doing the same job. They just got more pay. Many had fewer benefits. Government contracting can be pretty merciless. You don't get fired, just replaced. You can easily be out of a job. Try to fire an incompetent SNCO.

>>53621593
The south also has 40% of the US population you retard

>>53617798
based coastie, if anyone wants to join, join the CG

>>53621659
Sure, if they're even selected by libtard HRs or hired by blue state urbanites. The non-coms you're describing are skipping the job hunting charade and starting their own business. It's a skill you'll find in non-coms but it's not a skill that all or even most of them have

>>53613773
She's an ugly Ana de Armas

>>53613773
just join for a few months and claim PTSD like everybody else

>>53621820
Staying the whole 20 only raises your risk of a security incident ruining an automatic hire 6-figure civilian job. You're not Hillary, incidents and failed inspections through no direct fault of your own will kill your clearance

>>53621820
I mean Health Care (yeah its shit but it's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy less if not free)

>>53622632
>The south also has 40% of the US population
No shit. They also skew heavily conservative, same with the legacy recruits. So I'm wondering if the 25% miss in their recruitment goal has any correlation to those two traditional recruiting bases saying no to the new woke military.

>>53621746
I think you may not understand how civil engineering and construction firms operate.

>>53623478
interesting enough, libtards rarely own civil engineering or construction firms

Even blue stte urbanite government jobs usually have a military preference built in to the screening.

>>53613773
What the fuck is this clip?

>>53613773
probably. get in, and use their benefits to go to school asap. get a job in military, quit after 20 years to get a pension. find some other government job that's easy and you don't hate. quit after 20 years and have 2 pensions.

>>53613773
staying ALIVE in the military for 20yrs probably isnt even possible right now granted the whole WW3 right around the corner thing.

being a citizen in ANY super power nation isnt a smart move at all bc dying on some battlefield bc ur ass got drafted into service aint no way to /makeit/ at all.

also kys for recruiter posting
>soldiers dont make SHIT
>literally a mcdonalds worker can out perform a soldier financially by just investing in crypto and they have a 0% chance of dying on the job

>>53623932
Let me ask you a question. What is the military's requirement to become an officer? A commissioned leader and decision maker of the armed forces?

>>53613773
no

>>53624042
this guy is a fed

>>53614126
Most grunts who see combat have room temperature IQs. If you have at least average intelligence you can go into a skilled position where you are unlikely to be killed and also can apply that skill in the real world after you get out.

>>53621678
Not everything is related to your snowflake sensitivities anon. Look at Russia's performance, they couldn't run a 30 mile convoy, soldiers still reenacting ww2 with minimal food and material because logistics are fucked (not by Ukraine, completely self inflicted), etc. Support roles are important to conducting actual warfare, way to live up to a grunts room temperature IQ

>>53614126
>probably the worst time
Peacetime is the worst time to be in. Minimal congressional funding means less promotions and smaller pay increases. Force levels also lower so no guarantee to be able to reenlist and definitely no sign on bonuses. No war means a lot of bullshit training and fuck fuck games since there's literally nothing to do until the next conflict starts. So yeah it's one of the shittiest times to join but not for the zoomer COD ones you mentioned

>>53621148
This is incorrect. You enlist as a commissioned officer candidate in the Army. Every other branch is street to commission. In the army you must go through standard enlistment basic training before you get a shot at OCS. Once you start OCS, you are promoted to SGT(E5) or SSGT (E6) depending on your OCS timeline (Traditional, Federal, State or Hybrid). Your service obligation (enlistment contract) gets nulled once you accept a commission and from their your service obligation restarts.

>>53613773
I think so? many of those who did that are not very well either, maybe it is a bit safer than using crypto, I have enough problems with binance that I had to move to dextools, try it, after all the least you can lose is time

Join the military for 20 years to earn money? Lol, you don't join the military to make money....Its a resource for someone you doesn't know what to do with their lives or if you simply feel patriotic. It ain't a walk in the park either, you're better off just going to school and getting a job. That way you have more freedom and you can see your family whenever you want.

>>53613773
If you are too retarded to work white collar or learn a trade it might be the only option you have

>>53628402
You have more freedom as a soldier than a civilian. You have zero concept of the capabilities of the modern surveillance complex. Society no longer operates under the assumption of "rights" but instead under the assumption of "privilege". Your privileges are dictated by your social role. A soldier has more privileges than a civilian. It's that simple.

>>53624458
a relevant college degree
But I am talking non-comms; NCOs

Basically the requirement for them is following the rules and having demonstrated practical knowledge. Like a non-comm Sr. Chief might be under the Sr. Supply officer and his job is basically to make sure the food is ordered properly, stored properly and meals shifts staffed properly and menus planned properly do the Supply Officer doesn't get in trouble. If the Sr. Chief is doing his job correctly, he is mostly sitting around drinking coffee and yelling at the E1-3s whil keeping is uniform properly pressed so he doesn't look shabby. Considering he is likely 35lbs overweight, it doesnt matter tho.

>>53621240
>americans

>>53623784
It does.

>>53614223
>The military destroys your soul
Working retail (especially dealing with customers at the registers) already did that a long time ago.

>>53621593
I was rejected from air force OTS, which i thought was weird.
I ended up getting a job offer from a more prestigious government agency. I don't really understand military recruiting, seems like they just want to fill it completely to the brim with retards

Lujan starting to look busted as hell.

>>53614223
>>53630531
Both correct and if one must corrupt their soul for a chance at making it, then military should be a no brainer

>>53633415
She was always mid it’s just that this video doesn’t have filters on