/biz/ - Business & Finance

Do you hate money? If I'm starting a gym I want to get as many people in there as possible. Women in particular will pay out the ass for dumb shit like PTs and group training.

>another scamdemic hits
>government closes down your gym

>>53615881
>I want to get as many people in there as possible
lel no you dont

>>53615881
Yeah PT is one of the biggest grifts of all time. People literally pay extortionate amounts for "advice" and diet plans purely because they are lazy and stupid

>>53615856
Why not start small
Like maybe a gym class to build capital.
Or get a few friends and open a garage gym
Probably with 5-10gs you guys can buy equipment and start?

>>53615856
>dim lights
Women love dim lights. Should be prison fluorescents that highlight every pore and facial defect. Maybe include some black lighting too to enhance stains, cum stains on her leggings, on her mouth, etc.

>>53615856
There is a gym like this around the corner from me.

A little pricey, but its also exclusive and a limited membership so it doesn't get too crowded. They put it into some random warehouse too so rent can't be that bad.

>>53615856
>Tranny thinks it has a right to call others losers
He should have focused on not losing his dick.

Anyway what was your gay question to the bait image? Eh doesn't matter, OP I doubt you'd ever be able to make money doing anything besides sucking dick at a truck stop, go do that.

>>53615915
>Why not start small
>Like maybe a gym class to build capital.
>Or get a few friends and open a garage gym
>Probably with 5-10gs you guys can buy equipment and start?

That's not a bad idea. Get a space in the warehouse district or something.

>>53615856
>loudass metal rock music gym, rusty metal, few mirrors

You really think clients with a lot of money is going to come to this? This is niche and was already a meme a decade ago the markets already crowded and the clients you'd pull aren't big spenders just look at old fitness culture videos on youtube for ideas. You need a male only gym that pulls ex FAGMAN workers complete with whatever indie shit /mu/ talks about and the cleanest stale looking gym appearance possible maybe some arcade machine corner kek. Now those guys have money to throw at things.

>>53615856
>Open gym
>New Covid variant hits
>Gets shut down
>Lose money

Biz has the most genius business ideas.

>>53615856
I think a calisthenics-based gym would be the easiest shit ever. It would have like MINIMAL upkeep costs. Just make sure you own the land and you can charge minimal member-fees and still turn a profit.

>>53615856

Can someone tell me if I should join a gym or buy a home gym? I have a house with a basement and there’s plenty of space for a power rack, I’m a skinny DYEL rn. My company covers 2000 a year for health and fitness related shit so I was thinking of buying a rogue fitness power rack, barbell, plates, and bench. I’ve been to gyms in the past but it was always a pain to drive there since I live sorta far out, and sometimes equipment would be occupied. Only thing I’m worried about is lifting alone without a spotted.

What should I do bros… moneys not really an issue I just want to work out effectively and conveniently

>>53616247
you can work out effectively at home with zero equipment

>>53616247

As a longtime lifter, I prefer the gym. But if you have to do home gym, invest in a power rack and an adjustable bench. Stick primarily to dumbbell workouts. Doesn't take much.

>>53616097
>Biz has the most genius business ideas.

Where I live will never lockdown again.

>>53616276

I do that rn

>>53616294

Do you get better gains in the gym? I’m worried I won’t be able to push my limits alone lifting to failure

>>53616307
so why are you asking a retarded newfag question?

>>53616332

I like having all the equipment at my disposal. My primary leg workout now is machine leg press since it hits legs hard without sacrificing your spine, and that's too hard to buy and install at home.

Idk, maybe just a habit at this point. You can get plenty gains at home.

>>53615856
nowhere is safe bros, i've gone to a gym like this already for years - it's being taken over by thots as we speak.

>>53615900
Its to show off not lazy or stupid

>>53615977
when i see a ripped guy i actually think "damn this guy hit the genetics jackpot / love his roids"
the last thing i think is "he's boring". roidheads beat any faggot cartoonist anyday on that front

>>53615856
There is actually a demand I've seen firsthand for gyms that cater more to bodybuilding than cardio and meme shit. At every gym I've gone to they only have a few squat racks and a few benches, you overhear everyone complaining all the time that there isn't enough barbell equipment while 70% of the gym is cardio shit that doesn't get used. If you were to open a standard gym but with 2-3x the amount of benches, dumbells, squat racks, etc. I think you'd have a pretty good business model on your hands. Not only is that stuff cheaper than machines, it's more popular right now. The majority of gyms haven't caught up to what the young people are doing. Most of the girls are doing barbell stuff like squats deadlifts hip thrusts now.

>>53616376
I stopped going to the gym quite a while ago.

I've opened my home gym

>>53616247
>Only thing I’m worried about is lifting alone without a spotted
Use a safety bar. Problem solved

>>53615856

There is very little money in owning a gym. If you don’t pay rent on the property you can probably barely make it work but you’ll probably still make less money than if you were to just rent it to someone else as a commercial unit. Think about how much a membership is and how many you’ll need to cover overheads (electricity, replacing equipment, insurance etc) and pay yourself a wage.

The reason the CrossFit model worked was because they charged a lot more since it was mostly class based. Globogyms make money through PT rent, sometimes even offering unpaid work to use the place to train clients for free etc. also a huge amount of memberships that barely use it but it’s cheap enough they keep paying it anyway because they’ll ‘start using it next month’.

Basically unless it’s a passion project and you’re happy to make enough money just to keep the place running then a spit and sawdust gym is a terrible investment.

>>53616628
>There is actually a demand I've seen firsthand for gyms that cater more to bodybuilding than cardio and meme shit. At every gym I've gone to they only have a few squat racks and a few benches, you overhear everyone complaining all the time that there isn't enough barbell equipment while 70% of the gym is cardio shit that doesn't get used. If you were to open a standard gym but with 2-3x the amount of benches, dumbells, squat racks, etc. I think you'd have a pretty good business model on your hands. Not only is that stuff cheaper than machines, it's more popular right now. The majority of gyms haven't caught up to what the young people are doing. Most of the girls are doing barbell stuff like squats deadlifts hip thrusts now.

Yeah these popular meme gyms are pretty gay. Dumbbells don't go up that heavy. Missing some of the basic stuff. Catering to phone and tv watching cardio queers.

>>53616928
>There is very little money in owning a gym. If you don’t pay rent on the property you can probably barely make it work but you’ll probably still make less money than if you were to just rent it to someone else as a commercial unit. Think about how much a membership is and how many you’ll need to cover overheads (electricity, replacing equipment, insurance etc) and pay yourself a wage.
>The reason the CrossFit model worked was because they charged a lot more since it was mostly class based. Globogyms make money through PT rent, sometimes even offering unpaid work to use the place to train clients for free etc. also a huge amount of memberships that barely use it but it’s cheap enough they keep paying it anyway because they’ll ‘start using it next month’.
>Basically unless it’s a passion project and you’re happy to make enough money just to keep the place running then a spit and sawdust gym is a terrible investment.

Thanks for the feedback.

>>53615856

I like it nice and quiet in my gym. It's my dream one day to have a gym that's guys only. It's gonna be called Guy Heaven.

>>53615977
This cartoon is the biggest bunch of sour grapes cope I've seen in months. Working out feels good. Women lust after muscles like guys lust after boobs even and especially when they deny it. If you cut out netflix goyslop you can easily be musical, well read, and strong.

>>53615977
>ackhtually i'd rather do all these things to enhance my mind over my body
>spends all day on his phone not doing anything of note or merit
>body is a flabby piece of shit

>/biz/ at the gym

>>53615897
Depends. If he has the ability to get the capital necessary to open an Equinox in an area that doesn’t have one, women will flock there and pay the ridiculous monthly dues just be seen and post social media pics in the cafe area. Guys will follow suit just to chase ass and justify it that way. Odds are if that a local dungeon gym that’s been around for ages exist in almost every area so it would be very hard to start one up and expect massive profits.

>>53615856
Made me realize I kinda miss my old high school gym. Even though they blasted shitty rap half the time, it was all male and you could go as loud as you wanted.

>>53617601
Those tattoos look so fucking stupid

>>53615930
>Should be prison fluorescents that highlight every pore and facial defect
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

>>53616298
>again
If you had one, you can have another one.

>>53616783
That guys knees gotta be fucked from that

I guarantee this bitch doesn’t even workout, otherwise she wouldn’t be hiding behind a fucking cartoon character for her profile picture

The gym I go to right now is horrible. It's like a night club. You have a bunch of stupid thots running around video taping everything. You have fucking gangs of zoomer males roaming around such that even moving through the place is like trying to break the ranks of an ancient military formation. You have people who work there clearly using steroids who have the same energy as the neighborhood statutory rapist from the 80s and almost certainly have felony sexual assault charges on their record. Everyone there is like one bad misunderstanding away from a full fledged brawl breaking out. This only within the last 2 years that it has gotten this bad, so no idea what happened. I don't even know what rules you could implement to improve it, but it isn't women necessarily because even the guys at the gym I go to are vaginal insecure narcissists now. It's bizarre.

>>53615856
Mirrors do help with form though, so still have mirrors

>>53615977
The guy that made that comment hasn't read a book since high school, whereas I literally bring a book to me each time I go to the gym ( reading "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" atm)

>>53618252
>The gym I go to right now is horrible. It's like a night club. You have a bunch of stupid thots running around video taping everything. You have fucking gangs of zoomer males roaming around such that even moving through the place is like trying to break the ranks of an ancient military formation. You have people who work there clearly using steroids who have the same energy as the neighborhood statutory rapist from the 80s and almost certainly have felony sexual assault charges on their record. Everyone there is like one bad misunderstanding away from a full fledged brawl breaking out. This only within the last 2 years that it has gotten this bad, so no idea what happened. I don't even know what rules you could implement to improve it, but it isn't women necessarily because even the guys at the gym I go to are vaginal insecure narcissists now. It's bizarre.

My biggest pet peeve is zoomers who take up equipment sitting there playing games on their phones. Game playing in the gym would be banned.

>>53618270
>Mirrors do help with form though, so still have mirrors

Yeah was thinking that.

>>53617601
who the fuck came with the stupid idea of training with a fucking mask?
do you want me to suffocate and fail at chest and necking myself?

also how the fuck does a mask helps me avoid caughing covid but not by touching other people or sitting in their sweat in every machine?

fuck NPC's dumb fags who allowed this stupid and unlogic ideas to be enforced

>>53618141
Nah, he went on to become a world champion in squats for his weight class

>>53618252
Best way to get away from this shit is just spend the money and go to higher end gym, undesirables are priced out of entering

>>53618160
>this bitch

>>53617601
Are these people retarded, unironically? It's like putting a loaded gun up to your temple and pulling the trigger, gee what will happen next?

>>53618377
anyone with pronouns in his username is probably a troon

>>53615977
I guess that dude hasn't heard the term
healthy body, healthy mind

>>53618252
>but it isn't women necessarily because even the guys at the gym I go to are vaginal insecure narcissists now. It's bizarre.
Not defending those fags but they mostly act that way because females are around. It's crazy how annoying and faggy dudes act to get female attention. We live in a peacock culture. Men are obsessing over designer shoes, haircuts, and other gay fashion now to impress whores. Male and female spaces were separated for a reason. Women aren't genuine and don't care about anything but attention. Men can only get things done when they're alone. As soon as you add a female, everything will revolve around her. Men will act like retards to impress her. Rules will revolve around keeping the female happy.

Gyms would improve 1000% if women weren't allowed. Or at least separated

>>53615856
>pronouns
>cartoon pfp
>Powerpuff girls at that
Troon.

>>53618377
Yup. Definitely a troon. Man face and man hands

>>53615977
>pic
yes, the gym takes up 100% of your focus and waking hours leaving no time to listen to read, draw or listen to music with your frien

>>53615881
tell me how i know you never worked in a business before?

You dont want all customers, you want the customers that give you minimum problems. (ie not niggers, women, jews etc)

>>53615856
i don't know but having a gym is probably the most future-proof investement you can make, since AI will never steal the people's need to improve their body

>>53619191
>since AI will never steal the people's need to improve their body
While true, endless cake and circus does take away people's drive to self improve...

>>53619237
those people will either go to your gym or die from diabetes or a stroke

I sho hope dis stock do a lil sumpin I gotsa pay dem beelz

>>53617601
>>/biz/ at the gym

That's exactly what I don't want.

>>53617469
You’re such a low iq retard. Women lust after BONES. The jawbones, cheekbones, height of the leg bones, clavicle bones

>>53615856
getting women will also attract men, just like for discos, it pulls more one hair of puss than a wagon of oxen

how is this in any shape or form a "loser" thing?

you couldn't frame it this way even with advanced pilpul techniques

Why are our fellow bros over at /gme/ such a bunch of salt bags?

>>53615856
I really want to open a gym like this too. Powerlifting, oly lifting, boxing/jiu jitsu/mma lessons, sleds, turf, etc. Would have an outdoor and indoor area and a pool too. $100/mo for classes and pool, $40/mo for gym and pool, $30/mo for gym. 6am-11pm erry day, and maybe a premium 24 hr membership addon to each tier. It's my dream.

>>53621291
Actually calisthenics/gymnastic area too so people can get them planche gains and learn backflips n shit.

>>53621291
>>53621318
What you are describing is like a fitness wonderland and would be incredible. You’d have to charge alot more though, I’d say $150 a month for access to gym and pool and $300 a month to include classes. It’d be an elite gym and if it’s branded properly and is as great as you make it out to be tons of people will sign up and especially so if it becomes a status symbol to be apart of your gym. Elite gyms though only take on so many members though as they don’t want their facilities to be over crowded at any given time

>>53619772
yeah, the german bitches couldn't keep their hands off the "jews in auschwitz" that's how the jews burned to death, sexual friction
this is the secret jews don't want you to know

Just make it a private club/massage parlor where you can have gay sex in the showers and you're set.

>>53616247
If you're skinny DYEL, start out at a gym. This will give you an idea of what equipment you like/what you need/etc.

Personally, I am a home gym gang member and I enjoy lifting naked and not having to wait for other people.

>>53616376
My boxing gym got big on tiktok and a bunch of retard chinese women came in. They dont even listen to the coach in class, they stay in a group and giggle to themselves in chinese, every single day. Its fucking annoying.

>>53621419
I'd want it to attract all those people who want to lift like strongmen but can't afford it or don't live near anyone. If I could raise money some other way like hosting local tournaments or contests with entry fees I'd like to make it work. Might have to bump up prices a bit though, but yeah that's the plan if I ever get enough funding

>>53621755
Any gym*
>>53621546
How did you get started? Is it boxing only? I assume that has a little less overhead than getting a lot of other equipment needed in big commercial gyms

>>53617601
ironically probably got a better workout than intended

>>53615856
I could be wrong here but I think most gym business models actually rely on its members signing up and only going casually or preferably not at all.
How profitable a gym like this could become is questionable since it's only going to attract serious lifters who also are going to use your facilities minimum of 3-4 days per week.

>>53615881
every market has its niche sects

>>53615856
Gay men everywhere will rejoice once you open up that male only gym

>Every January the gym gets full of fatbodies who told themselves "this is the year I get /fit/!”
>They all stop coming by Valentine's Day
>Keep getting charged anyway

Thanks for subsidizing my comfy gym tubbos

>>53617469
>Women lust after muscles
>he doesn't know
The only people who care about your muscles are other men. Women like lean builds with good definition but they think being bulky is gross.

>>53615881
gyms make money from people not showing up

>>53616783
>the bar bends before he does
i kneel

ZOMG WHAT A HECKIN LOSER INCELARINO HOW DARE HE OPPOSE COMMUNIST TALKING POINT #5: NO DIFFERENCES CAN BE NOTICED BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN. MEN ARE WOMEN. WOMEN ARE MEN.

>>53622610
>Lean
>Bulky

I bet you think they like dadbods too kek. Women cannot measure things and have poor depth perception; don't listen to them when they say stuff like this

>>53615856
>HER
Doubt.

>>53615856
I watched a dude get called a creep on social media for just looking in the general direction of a woman. I am not gong back to the gym.

>>53616928
You also have to compete with nonprofits like YMCA who offer all the same shit as you, plus more, for a cheaper price. But somehow they aren't considered businesses, they get all kinds of tax loopholes and the board members make shitloads of money for not doing anything.

If you know someone who owns a local gym ask them how they feel about ymca, or the nice new 10 million dollar gym that the state university built next door with public funds.

>>53615856
>fujoshe/her
pottery

>>53615856
>one dedicated bench for dumbbells

Why

>>53616137
The whole point of calisthenics is you can do them at home with minimal to no equipment. I know this shit is popular on YouTube right now but fuck, people are opening calisthenics gyms?

That’s retarded on multiple levels.

>>53616247
Home gym 100%. If you can get it paid for you, home gym 1000%.

I got one for my house and it’s a game changer. Pays for itself in gym memberships within 12-18 months anyway, and you can sell the equipment later on if you don’t want it anymore.

>>53615856
nice vibe to gym

>>53618292
Based and Heinleinpilled

>>53619826
Any man that goes to the gym only to leer at women is probably a rapist, and soon your gym will be closed down for allowing in rapists. Checkmate atheists.

>>53625830
I don't think it's that retarded. There's a lot of calisthenics exercises that are kinda difficult to do at home (an actually good rings set-up, back hyperestension apparatus, and bodyweight leg curls).
Not to mention, you can throw in like 2 -3 barbells to the calisthenics gym.

>>53616137
so, crossfit?

>>53626559
No not crossfit. Crossfit is an exercise methodology. I am not proposing a methodology, literally just provide people the barebones equipment. No expensive machines / treadmills - just bars, gymnastics rings, and *some* free weights. Similar to pic related.
You could charge something like $1/entry, people would have an auto-reloadable scan-in card similar to what they use on public transport systems. So I guess you would earn something like $3/person/week. If you had 30 customers you'd get $90/week. Nothing to write home about but there's literally no maintenance cost.

>>53627173
Oh, I forgot to add the important part.
>If you had 30 customers you'd get $90/week.
That's excluding personal / group-training that you could run. You could charge people $5/person/group-training session, you'd make a lot of money for free. Personal training would be at any rate you like.
NO UPKEEP COSTS.

>>53617401
>"Guy Heaven"
Sounds like a goddamn gay bar...

>Gym rule #1, no videos or recording
Woman and faggot problem has now disappeared

>>53615856

If you own the building than it could be a good idea.
While you will have a smaller pool of potential clients some people will come to your place especially because they can grunt, pump iron and talk shit without getting complaints.
Those clients are unlikely to leave and since your business costs are low (get a Mexican to clean the place 2 times a week and on the other days just wipe the seats before closing) you can also operate at a profit with less people.
Women will likely always flock to the newest and fanciest gym (or the closest one) so trying to compete for female clients with the 2 million dollars gym down the road might not be worth it.
Real money in rusty iron gyms is made by selling anabolic steroids but that is not very legal.

>>53627242
make it a bannable offense

>>53616247
All you need is a power rack and the 5x5 workout to get stronger. But if you are a complete noob you want someone to check your form initially

>>53627173
>bars rings and free weights
>no maintenance costs
>90 dollars a week profit
>need to provide scan cards
My man, bars are expensive and require maintainance/replacement, your weights will be handled by people who don't give a fuck so they will split, and the rings will constantly have issues because people will act like retards.
You will get reamed by your insurance company, but if you don't have insurance somebody will pop a shoulder on the rings and you will be in debt for the rest of your life.

>>53621291
My local gym unironically has all of that (except the pool), 24 hours, for 8usd/week.
I work there as one of the mcdojo trainers. The job is litty.

>>53627408
>bars are expensive and require maintainance/replacement
Just to be clear, I meant "pull up bars and parallel bars". And no they are not expensive and require virtually no maintenance. My local outdoor park has some pullup bars which haven't been maintained in decades and it's still useable. Any indoor bars will have virtually endless lifespan.
>but if you don't have insurance somebody will pop a shoulder on the rings and you will be in debt for the rest of your life.
This sounds true but should be disputable in court with adequate waivers and signage instructing proper/safe usage of the equipment. You're right though about injuries being a liability for getting sued. This can be counteracted with a simple "NO JEWS ALLOWED" sign posted on the front of the gym.

Actually I think there is a market for this.
Where I am all fitness are full light mode with stupid bullshit music, coaches sounds gays if there are not, this is kinda weird. I come here only to do some basic training pulls up muscle up etc & I don't do any machine (only leg press). If I could pay 50% less and go to a basic based gym there's no hesitation I would go there.

t. ironman triathlons

I like your idea I actually think If I had to start something it would be this.
But not too much rock'n roll bullshit either it's not for gay motorbikes retards. A simple masculine / mature environement.

Also with real trainers coaches, boxe trainer, an army veteran, a reputable runner things like these

>>53616783
>can lift like a Viking
>have a söylent face with 2/10 facial aesthetics and no hair so it doesn’t matter anyways
Why is god so cruel?

>>53616374
Leh press does fuck up your spine though since the angle is unnatural

>>53615881
Why would they go to your gym instead of more established ones if you have nothing unique to offer? You'll never be successful.

>>53615930
my fucking sides

>>53627173

Uhhh... No one will pay for whatever the fuck that photo is lol

>>53617601
>no spotter
kek

>>53627893
it's because you're gay stop projecting

>>53615977
This is sour grapes cope
you can change your body with 4-5 hours a week doing a 6-8 rep 3 day split routine as long as you're redlining every set to failure. (not actually that difficult and you wait inbetween sets so its not that difficult. your muscles just stop when they're done at that rep range, little burn desu)

If you can do cardio you can read, fat burning cardio like long slow 120bpm minutes cardio you can read or listen to an audiobook

I never understood people who don't go to gym especially overweight women apart from the fact they were never taught or they just never put the time and effort into learning what to do then just don't go.(last one fair call cause there's alot of confusion)

>>53629516
Really under 3 hours a week, if you're in a rush you can get through a gym session in 45 minutes or close to it but well under an hour.

I get people who work 40-60 hours a week don't go, but most people really can go

>>53629566
most people work 40 hours a week anon

>>53617601
How do these videos get out to the public? Did this chick really record herself failing and think "yeah this looks good" or was this leaked? recording yourself doing menial shit it so dumb.

>>53615856
OP, the reason gyms like this arent everywhere is because they barely make money. every guy who guys into a gym hates the banks of cardio machines, useless weighted machines, and massive floorspace dedicated to niche calisthenic shit, whilst that same gym only has two benchpress stations. nobody, not even thots, like that shit, however, by filling commercial gyms with crap nobody uses, they cut down on maintenance costs massively. most damage to gyms and equipment is done by the hardcore lifters and freeweights users. so they keep just enough 'useful' equipment in so people still use it, but without it being prohibitively expensive to maintain. additionally, gyms dont want people to get injured and sue, which is why they have to take maintenance seriously. your alpha male gym would be great, until you realise that after a couple months all the cable machines are broken, the benches are on the verge of collapsing (which could lead to broken necks and ribs) and all need replacing. sure maybe 99% of the bros there are cool, but maybe the one asshole who shows up hurts himself and sues, then you are liable for hundreds of thousands because of some obscure building code violation.

besides. gyms like these exist, but often you have to be invited and are ran not for profit, but for passion, typically be retired competition bodybuilders. personally I know of at least 2 gyms like this in my hometown and you cannot just walk in, you have to apply to be a member. your idea has a good spirit but I think every gym goer has wondered why modern gyms are 75% useless gay lighting, worthless cardio machines, mirrors wall to wall etc.
in fact, here in the UK, there used to be a chain like you described called Xercise4Less. it was cheap, dirty, and all of their gyms had fuck loads of freeweights and practically no instagram niceties. I loved it and it had a real good crowd. it went bankrupt and got bought out by a clothing brand, now they are instagram gyms.

>>53616247
Home gym is better long term when you have a family and want to raise your kids to be strong and athletic and aesthetic

>>53616247
I’ve been lifting for ~15 years consecutively.
I’ve literally outlived like 4 gyms I’ve been a member at and I haven’t left the area I grew up in.
Prices are higher now than they were 15 years ago but whatever. Let’s say with everything included I still averaged $50/mo over 15 years.
That’s exactly $9,000.
It would easily cost you that much just for a good quality power rack, adjustable bench, bar, and plates. We haven’t even gotten into dumbbells (a home gym luxury), other gym pieces like a hamstring curl, calf raise, or reverse hyper.
But whatever fuck it let’s say you get your gym outfitted for $9k anyway just for the sake of the conversation.
You’re paying upfront and you’re going to need to workout for 15 years total for it to have broke even. Is that worth it to you? For what? Not having to drive 20 minutes each way or wait for a machine, and to be even more socially isolated than you already are? Btw if you break something you’re the one replacing it.
Oh and you have to have somewhere to put it in the first place, that’s a pretty important part.

>>53618292
>"The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" atm
>"The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" ass to mouth

>>53618252
>even moving through the place is like trying to break the ranks of an ancient military formation
my fucking sides

>>53627780

I've found many of the built in weight leg press machines (vs. the free weight leg press machines) are actually quite ergonomic if you do them right, and with full ROM blast your legs hard. With squatting you're limited by how long your torso can go without fatiguing out, with leg press you can go until your legs are melting.

>>53615856
Gym owner here
You are effectively cutting 50% (actually more) of your customer base while gaining almost nothing in return
I guess you are free to do it if you dont care about money but rather you want to create a place where you throw sausage parties

>>53630460
> while gaining almost nothing in return
You’re not thinking like a closeted gay incel

>>53619177
Bingo. You want to select for the 20%.

>>53619177

You also want the customers that are easiest to part with their money (women)

>>53621831
Most gyms like that charge more than planet fitness type gyms. The heavy gyms near me are at least 125 a month

>>53615856
>dim lights
>rusty plates
>no machines
>be as loud as I want
Why would I pay for that when I already have it going on in my garage and basement?

>>53619177
>>53630631
Idiots.

>>53630245
You can build a perfectly adequate home gym for 1050.

Decent, but not great rack like a Titan T-2 -350.

Good barbell like Texas Power Bar - 300

Assortment of Plates from craigslist - 400

That right is all mosr really need and you can add more over the years.

>>53630982
If you’re really thrifty with the way you use dumbbells it can get even cheaper. I dropped a few hundred on a good bench but outside of that scooped up iron weights for practically pennies on craigslist and got dumbbell bars from Walmart for something like 5 dollars each. Between goblet squats, DB deadlifts, lateral squats, etc, you can get a damn good leg workout just from those alone. That was really the only barrier I found to not being able to find a good deal on a squat rack but you can always work around it.

>>53629516
you can unironically get shredded doing 90 minutes of cardio a week if you commit to HIIT training.

>>53615856
I used to prepare the tax returns for a client who owned a few gyms. He was making bank. Wife divorced him and got fat alimony. He always drove a high end Mercedes that was leased and paid by his corp. He had Golds or Worlds gym franchises though. Know your market before you invest in all that equipment.
I currently have a client who has a small gym, non franchise. He makes like 40k a year.

>>53615856
Dungeons are getting closed down by Planet Shitness. I went to a dungeon for a long time before the guy closed his doors. Not enough participants

>>53615930
>Blacklight
>Cumstains
Uhh, you know this would impact all the gym bros too right? Average /fit/ bro would glow 10 times brighter under a blacklight than the sluttiest roastie

>>53616087
tech workers aren't interested in bodybuilding. I worked at Facebook for several years and the only employees lifting at the company gym were 22 year olds fresh out of college. By the time they turn 25 they've all given up on lifting because they're afraid of "toxic masculinity" and they notice that all the managers and directors and VPs only do cardio exercise, never bodybuilding.

>>53615856
Make sure to have a smallbooth with couch table and tv but only ps2 with fighting/pes games and play important sport matches on the tv

>>53617601
Why is she recording herself lifting 115

If I had a shit ton of money, I would love to start a boxing gym.

>>53630982
in college (10 years ago) I set up my home gym for like $100:

doorframe-mounted pull-up bar: found one for free in the trash outside a frat house (you can also buy one on Amazon for like $20)

rusty 1980s bench and barbell including 200 lbs of plates: purchased on craigslist for $60

two adjustable dumbbells with 80 lbs of plates: purchased on eBay for $40

yoga mat: repurposed from my camping gear, free

using only those four items I got so muscular I looked like a TikTok himbo. People called me "ripped" and asked me for diet and bodybuilding advice. I started wearing long-sleeve shirts because I was uncomfortable with how much people were staring at my arms.

Anyone who says they can't afford equipment for bodybuilding is full of shit; even ten years later I'm confident you can achieve something like my college setup for under $200.

>>53615856
>>53618377
>calls himself the japanese word for "rotten woman"
>isn't even a woman
So a gay dude loudly declares he jerks off to gay cartoon porn is calling men participating in healthy exercise free of distraction losers?

>>53633494
>I started wearing long-sleeve shirts because I was uncomfortable with how much people were staring at my arms.
This part sounds like an old /fit/ shitpost lmao but you're absolutely right about the price of equipment not being much. The shit lasts forever and if you know where to look I'm sure you'll find someone who never uses their shit and just wants some quick cash for it.

>>53615856
These retards all have shitty advice. It can most definitely be done anon. Don't fall into the trap of buying shiny new equipment, I think the average rate for dumbbells is around $2 per pound the dumbbell weighs if its new, which will add up. If you or someone you know is handy, try building some of the equipment yourself, my gym has custom made equipment and it works great. In order to get customers, I'd recommend going to some of the corporate gyms in the area, find the biggest fuckers there, and offer a few of them deals where they can workout at your gym for six months if they sign up a friend (or some permutation of that deal, just something to get a customer base started)

>>53619177
Do kikes even gym?
I'm kekking hard thank you faggot.

>>53633258
>fighting and sports games
sounds ok in theory, but you know blacks will actually start fights and kill eachother over those games, right?

>>53616628
Because they can either try to run on profits or accept cheap printed money to be intentionally garbage.

>>53615915
>>53615977
There's been a recent trend of "microgyms," where people with multiple car garages, storage units, etc. put maybe 2 treadmills, a squat rack, a rowing machine, dumbbells, barbells + weights in their garage and essentially rent it out in a pay-by-the minute (or whatever, maybe they do it by half hour or per workout) model. Seems like a cozy little income stream until someone snaps their hamstring or dislodges their kneecap in your garage, I assume that would be a legal nightmare even if you do make the sign waivers

>>53633559
>this part sounds like an old /fit/ shitpost lmao
lol, it's less about bragging/shitposting and more to emphasize that one can get really shredded with a cheap, four-item setup

>>53625848
This, OP get 1) a squat rack (doesn't have to be a fancy Titan one, hell buy it used on FB Marketplace, solid deals there) 2) a rowing machine 3) an adjustable bench 4) barbell + weights and 5) adjustable dumbbells, I had all of this in a small barely-one-car apartment garage and made huge gains. Could blast TOOL all I wanted, if it was hot (this was in Texas) I'd just get naked and lift, it was peak existence. Honestly you could probably buy everything except the adjustable dumbbells on FB for > $1000, then splurge on the dumbbells. There is ALWAYS someone who tried to homegym and gave up after 6 months and is trying to sell their shit at a loss

>>53615856
i like the idea just because it's a place that doesn't commonly exist otherwise, but it's a pretty bad business model to design it in a way that half the gym-going population (thots + dudes that actually WANT thots around in their gym) wouldn't be interested from the start

>>53634134
I go to a gym like this. it's been around since 1999 I believe.
There are no mirrors. There are barely any machines.
There is chalk. There is no rap music playing, it's pretty much either punk or metal depending on who's working.
Most the gyms that I see come and go are fad gyms. They all want to be the Golds Gym of yore or whatever.
Here's what happens.
As soon as the ownership stops being present every day and giving a fuck it all goes to shit.
The members are one tier above planet fitness but only in IQ.
Most of the members are vain and self-absorbed. It's girls with leggings wedged up their ass cracks and 5'4 dudes on 2grams of misc steroids since before they were old enough to drink
Those people bring in all the retards who aspire to be like them or think they are them (leg press max plate loader) and it turns away all the normal people who think they're both a bunch of bozos.
Eventually all the competitive bodybuilder types get sick of the people they rightfully view as plebeian and go elsewhere. What remains are the bottom of the barrel members, these are you zoomers, your guys who think screaming louder than everyone else makes him stronger than everyone else, the white guy who raps lyrics out loud, and the black guy who does retarded functional training.
Contrast this with the 'shitty' gym I mentioned has been open for almost 25 years.
They form strong bonds with members and foster a community. People look after the gym, and one another. Education is a facet of gym. There is coaching, group classes, special workshop days, guests brought in from the world level. Everyone kind of knows each other and no one really tolerates too much fuckery.

>>53618378
You probably can't even bench the bar.

>>53615856

That gym looks cramped as fuck. Also fuck your cringe flags and the gay ass music. Not saying it would be any worse than the bullshit you put up with in a commercial gym but all I want is a place where I can squat, deadlift, bench, has enough plates, a few dumbbells, and maybe a few accessory machines.

>>53615881
Businesses are about more than money, they are a vehicle by which you may influence the socioeconomic climate

>>53621801
And a free hernia and broken jaw for he struggles

>>53615856
It's true. I moved and the nearest gym is run-down and there are few women even though there are plenty of cardio machines. Honestly I miss the cuties from my old gym they always gave good motivation

>>53615856
the liability insurance for a gym is massive
people will literally go in to find a hazard and injure themselves

>>53633292
I think it's 75 kek

>>53617601
step bro, help, i'm stuck

>>53627748

the guy looks like a dwarf. he's probably like 5'3". he's strong but imo going to a gym is not about being a powerlifter. you're there for your health, and doing this amount of weight and also with little regard to safety is bad for your health. people that are power and olympic lifters sacrifice their health for sport/competition. 'normal' people should realize there's no point. lift what's comfortable, what you have a reasonable range of motion with, and what feels good for your body. we're not on fit so the only thing i'm concerned with in my fitness is it improving my health so i can live longer and spend more of the money i can accumulate as well as have my dick hold out longer so i can fuck my wife and thots into old age

>>53617601
Are women really this weak? She doesn't look that small either

>>53637122
women have almost no upper body strength. they're far behind in lower body strength as well, but the gap with men there is smaller.

>>53615856
>wanting only sweaty bro dudes around you
sounds kinda gay ngl

>>53615856
Stabil

>>53618329
>sweat transmits covid
>skin to skin transmits covid

I’m embarrassed for you

>>53615977
i dont know, spending hours each day on strength training is a bit of a waste of time, but you only need to do 15 minutes a day to be healthy without needing a gym.

>>53637388
Covid doesn't exist as it's just the flu so yeah.

>>53616247
>>53630245
all i need is a pull up bar that hooks into your door frame. thats 40 bucks or so. Still I respect your dedication.

>>53615856
Dude try some sort of thing you can do at the park like eagle fang. Like a yoga group at the park and get them to pay $599 upfront so they feel like they have to show up. And do a deal with one really hot yoga pants chick to be there each time. So maybe approach a hot chick with your business plan. So yeah get money upfront for nothing and no expense location. Maybe fake a legal thing and get basic liability insurance just in case.

>>53637492
YOU GOT A DOOR? YOU GOT A GYM
Honestly though man, when I was a teenager I was able to make progress just from doing pushups and fucking around with some dinky weights at home.
When your baseline is 0 you don't need a ton of stimulus to see results. As you go on throughout time and progression then obviously more stress is required to stimulate a response and especially as you get older and injuries accrue there are going to be less and less things you'll be able to do.

Why the fuck are there so many nu/pol/ faggots on /biz/? I hardly ever used to see them now they are all over the fucking place.
>>53615856
I got a solution for you instead of being antiwhite fuckhead who hates white woman why not just put a ban on phones and pictures. If you are seen taking photos you are banned and have to pay your yearly fee up front or some shit.

>>53618329
Damn you stupid nigger

>>53615881
The only thing that keeps me from going to a gym is women. Every single personal trainer class now is just the same fucking "booty boot camp" shit. The gym is packed with whores, or at the very least with women wearing whores' uniforms. I refuse to put myself in a situation where someone can feign discomfort simply because I'm standing in the same space as them.

>>53615856
Can't you just exclude women from the gym? There are women only gyms, why go the extra mile to somehow decorate a gym so women don't like it? Just make it men only you fucking asswipe

>>53633933
Simple, only allow blond aryans to be members