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BOILsisters...

>futures

My Mom told me shes been having shortness of breath, unusual fatigue and chest pressure. What stocks to I buy to make Pfizer go bankrupt?

>>53594514
Service Corporation International SCI

>>53594514
who cares not your personal blog

RORKLER
HOWS COMES MY SCRIBER COUNT BEEN BIGGR N SHEET EVRY TIEM I CHEK IT N SHEET LAST FEW DAYS N SHEET???
NUMBUH BIGGUH EVRY TIEM I PULL DOEN N SLL DAT SHEET
HOWS COMES IT B LIEK DAT RORKLER???

just finished seeing the last rocker update and im glad the clipboard paper headers are back. thank you based rocker

>>53594546
oh my god... he has 7 likes

I dont watch rocker because he's fat
every time i see him post his e-whore internet girlfriend i think of his chin rolls

>>53594542
you cared enough to reply. thanks, it means a lot to me. i know you dont want to come out and give me support in front of your friends but i know deep down you care.

>>53594579
This
I hate fat people so much
:)

>>53594581
not my problem you're a vax cuck
now you need to live with the consequences of being a sheep

>futures

HD and LOW have the exact same chart

>>53594597
no one in your family took it?

>futures

buy CPUH b4 march is over
i did alot of ENLV research but I need to look at financials next.
XBI test 95$

someone recommend good divvy stocks, im lookin at KDP mayb

>>53594612
Most of my family is old. If old people took it I don't really blame them since they actually were at risk of covid. It's the young people that never should have but they caved to peer/media/job pressure

GNS short squeeze

>>53594618
also this is a bit of a projection but stop smoking weed and eating slop, the vax or just covid in general does alot of hidden dmg to ur stats u know? conspiracies aside, they want the population vaping cannabis or nicotine to narrow your blood vessels, then covid and burgers do the rest. its funny how invulnerable the avg under 30's i know feel.

Good night smg, see you in the morning ;)

>futures.

>>53594655
False

Based on the >futures posting webms in this thread I have absolutely no idea whether futures are up, down, or flat ???

>>53594656
She knows what she's good for

Gnight anon

>>53594661
>futures

>>53594577
my top video has 172 of those

DXY has bottomed. That's all you need to know. Position wisely.

>futures

>>53594704
Lmao

>>53594704
dxy depends on bonds
bonds>dxy>stocks>indices>cryptos

Palestine Ohio is set to explode, bearish for commodities and stocks?

https://twitter.com/IntelPointAlert/status/1622418434179858435

>>53594704
>yields rising
>dxy rising
>vix rising
can't get more obvious.
it's over for mumus

>>53594728
>>bonds>dxy>stocks>indices>cryptos
FED>bonds>dxy>stocks>indices>cryptos

>>53594655
theres something wrong with the weed they sell at dispensaries (outside california anyway) i s2g. none of it makes me feel any different than literally just smoking cbd for more than maybe 5 minutes. its subpar even compared to the random shit my friends had in highschool, and this isnt just rose glasses either, i had some cali grown blue dream a few months ago and it was good shit, weed like i remembered weed being. i guess they arent even trying to hide it though really, everything at the dispensaries here is either indica or "hybrid," and imo indica is nigger weed for putting niggers to sleep, its basically just lean.

>>53594753
so wait I am confused. Do you want to invest in bonds when interest rate are high and yeilds are high? Or the otehr way around?

>>53594739
>some shithole in the middle east blows up
SPY would be at $10 if we dumped every time that happened

>>53594773
I recently tried a thc/cbd bath bomb and I will say it was quite nice

>>53594779
its a traincar in ohio lol. honestly i love train derailments, so cool. i used to clip pictures of them from magazines

>>53594739
>Jews once again expelling people from Palestine

Buddy look at 10 year yield computer

>>53594777
bonds down -> yield up
bonds up -> yield down
the peak on the 2y was 4.88% not even fed target so you want to invest when bonds gets sold off again. this happens because investor see their locked-in 4% yield but interest rates going to 5%+ so they sell bonds. therefore yields go up so it makes it attractive again to buy again

What is going to go up 50% today?

>>53594840
SPY 404 puts?

>>53594840
your chance of sudden death

>>53594840
my dick inside your mum
#PWND

>>53594679
why is all of your shit flowcharts?

>futures

Shit Tyrone (me) get it together

>All those carry trades against JPY
They usually hedge with forward contracts, no?

>>53594862
Your TA implies that you're trying to swing trade it
It has 800 volume. Why?

>>53594821
>you want to invest
to invest in stocks right?

>>53594777
Bonds have a coupon rate, and time until maturity. They also have yield, duration, and convexity, which are derivatives of these values.
Duration is not time until expiry.

>>53594859
it involves the niche that I do :^)

>>53594679
nice youtube videos lmao

>>53594905
gottem

holy shid scoopsies doxxed. its joever now

>>53594657
Did he died

>>53594875
I use swing trade strategies to find good buy spots for long term holds. Is that dumb?

>>53594777
you want to buy a bond when the interest rate is at its maximum it will be for that time period. ie buying a 10 year treasury at 4.40%. Then yields go down, as inflation/growth expectations come down, and now youre 4.4 yielding bond is worth moire because new bonds at 2% yielding.

>>53594860
>The same fag keeps posting this shit even though futures are on down half a percent.

>>53594909
im calling rocker asap

>>53594939
So I dont want to buy any bonds until the top of the next bullrun? Thanks for the advice friens.

>>53594909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ale7Fn921GQ
>hey guys

>>53594935
I suppose not, you're just buying the dip

>>53594907
>It's real
Rocker btfo. 4 months in and already a bigger youtuber. Sadly this likely means goodbye to our favorite black software engineer.

>>53594954

no listen, yields are always flucuating. the ideal situation is buying a bond at the PEAK yield for that time period. lets say 4.40%. bond yields flucuate based on a lot of things, and lets say yields go down. now new bonds yield 2%, but yours still yields 4%. you can sell your bond for a profit. so lower bond yields make bond prices go up, and bond yields going higher make bond prices go down. you want to buy bonds when interest rates are high, and stock market valuations are low. because higher bond yields put downward pressure on stocks(as bond become more attractive alternative investment to stocks)

its hard to predict where bond yields will go. maybe theyve already peaked? maybe inflation will surge again and we'll have 6% bond yields its hard to say

>>53594487
fukkkk

>>53594907
>>53594909
>>53594955
oh shit, you found me guys! XD
time to spam some tranny porn in the video comments, right???? :^)

>>53594984
no its time for me to become educated

>>53594964
That's my goal. My old self was clearly horrendous at buying the dip. I've gotten better recently with the hops of swing trading, but throughout my trials runs buying and holding has always yielded more profit (example is WEN).

>>53594939
Is any bond actually worth buying other than series I bonds?

>>53594987
I SAID ITS TIEM TO FUKKN SPAM SOM TRANNY PORN IN THE GODDAM COMMENTS; NOW FUKKN DO IT YA NIGGERKIKEBICHMONKEY

>>53594984
we're a family scoopsies we weouldn't do that to you

How do I profit off pooshits getting found out as scammers?

>>53594984
Scoops idk you that well because I've only been here like a year but I come here in UK time so that may be why I never see you (also think tripfags are niggers) but that's a pretty based channel you got there faggot and you should be proud of it, I do DevOps but I'm going to be checking it out later.

>>53594969
Ahh, I see. So how do I understand when bond yeilds are highest and are you telling me it's better to trade bonds rather than allow them to mature?

>
its hard to predict where bond yields will go. maybe theyve already peaked? maybe inflation will surge again and we'll have 6% bond yields its hard to say

It's possible to know what the highest yeild for a bond is though right?

fourth of july is coming up boys. good long term hold practice.

>>53595001
>>53595007
there’s literally enough information lying around to doxx me. I might have to delete it now.
The apartment was literally nothing because there’s like 1000 people in this building, but the channel has legitimately identifiable stuff on it.

>>53595014
all I can get is your tiny face

>>53595014
well get rid of some of it, i am not crazy, but someone could be, so start scrubbing

>>53595014
I seriously have no fucking idea why rocker is so comfortable with having his face in his videos.

>>53595017
hahaha. no, it’s way, way worse than that.
you’ll know it when you see it.

>>53595021
im sorry bro whyd you have to use apple paint brush to cover stuff

>>53595014
It's too late. Some autist has probably already downloaded all of them.
Un-doxxing is impossible.

>>53595030
I went over it a good number of times
I thought I was fucking solid

>>53594505
>>53594598
>>53594617
>>53594657
>>53594673
>>53594709
>>53594860

What's wrong with the futures?
Are they crashing because of the Chinese balloon or something?

do not dox anons :(

>>53595033
your hubris has destroyed you

>>53594993
Those won't yield 6+ percent forever. There's some decent corpos you can snag now that yield 6-8% now. I think those will go up as the FFR approaches its terminal rate.

>>53594989
Do you use any other indicators, like fib levels or baselines?

>>53594877
in a "normal" market you would expect low yield -> higher stock and high yield -> low stocks so a 60/40 boomer portfolio made sense.
yields are rising again you expect stocks lower.
as you have seen last year the 60/40 didn't do shit due sell-off in stocks and bond, because investor rather go in cash and demand a higher yield for their risk - that's what I think is playing out again right now

>>53595062
That exercise was done solely with volume profile. The strategy involves waiting for the price to slip out of the value area, panic dropping far below it, and waiting for the smouldering rubble to cool before buying cheapies. Comparing the 1/3 month ones worked a lot better than just the 1 month one. I'm still figuring out when to sell (if ever) but paying attention to the nosedives out of the value area got me buying near the local lows (until the next one showed up LUL).

>>53595033
sorry bro. where is the op sec???

All the bond stuff is interesting in theory but I don't see how it matters in practice. Bones are for when you want to be ultra conservative but still want to beat just holding cash. Sure, it's nice to get bonds when they are at the highest yield but the difference is quite tiny. I can't imagine people are actually swing trading them either because liquidity is low and fees are potentially high. I have treasury bonds and don't give a cat what the yield is. It's just a way for me to hold my cash for the time being when I think the stock market is too risky

>>53595094
Leveraged bond trading exists. You can go 100x at some brokerages.

>>53595113
>>53595094
to be expose to bonds, you use an etf or directly the bonds ? Bonds require lots of capital, dont they ?

this is the best /smg/ ever

I JUT GOT BACK FROM A FUCKING DOORDASH RUN WHERE I WENT TO THE GROCERY STORE TO BUY 1 PACKAGE PF MAXI PADS AND NOTHING ELSE.

I HAD TO THEN DRIVE 8 MILES TO A STUIPD APARTMENT COMPLEX WHICH WAS LOCKED WITH A GATE AND THE FUCKING SKANK WOULD NOT ANSWER HER PHONE AND DID NOT LEAVE ANY FUCKING CODE OR INSTRUCTIONS IN THE APP. I WAITED AROUND FOR FUCKING 18 MINUTES UNTIL SOME FAGGOT WAS LEAVING AND THE GATE OPENED SO I WENT IN AND IT TOOK A NOTHER FUCKING 2O MINUTES OF DRIVING AROUND GETTING OUT OF THE CAR AND BACK IN AGAIN TRYING TO READ THE FAGGOTY NIGGERHIVE COMPLEX NUMBERS IN TEH GODDAMN DARK. OF COURSE THERE IS NO FUCKING PARKING BECAUSE ITS ALL TENANT RESERVED SPACES AND FIRETRUCK RED LINES ON THE CURB SO I HAVE TO DUBLE PARK LEAVING MY FLASHERS ON HOPING NOBODY WILL COME OR LEAVE WHILE IM BLOCKING AND GET MAD.

THEN I HAD TO WALK AROUND ON FOOT TRYING TO FIND THIS WHORES DOOR WHILE SOME SKETCHY LOOKING MEXICANS WERE SMOKING WEED OUTSIDE AND STARING AT ME.

I MADE $3.78 FOR THE DELIVERY AND DID NOT GET TIPPED. THIS FUCKING LITERAL NIGGERBITCH NAMED ALIZE DID NOT TIP. I AM A LITERAL MAXI PAD DELIVERY MAN THIS IS SUCH FUCKING BULLSHIT

JUST FUCKING TELL ME WHAT STOCK WILL DO 200%+ TOMORROW SO I CAN BUY A CALL ON IT AND RETIRE IM SO TIRED OF THIS FUKING BULLSHIT

>>53595083
How are you identifying levels with volume profile? Also, doesn't it depend on the bars you have displayed on screen, so that moving it even a little bit gives you completely different data?

According to my TA, it should have just entered an uptrend and will probably go up a bit, though who knows what ER will do. As for fib levels, 46.17, 43.06, and 41.13 seem important.

>>53595134
it's EU time we're civilized here.
you see the quality drop as soon as burgers are awake

>>53595134
The best threads are the ones where all your frens post in

>>53595125
>>53595113
Didn't know about leveraged bonds. That's cool. Can you short them or use CFDs as well, then?
I know about levered etfs, there's a 3x on one of the treasuries iirc.

>futures

>>53595014
I doubt anyone cares/hates you enough for it to matter. Just saying it's not worth destroying a channel over this.
Also why the fuck taunt these fuckheads with redacted screenshots? Everyone knows we have a rep for this shit. What were you even expecting lmao idiot

>The total number of credit cards in the US has hit an all-time high of 518.4 million

Ooohhh fuck me, I feel like this is the calm before the crash, like in summer of 1929

>>53595167
>17 months before the crash: investors were buying monkey jpgs for millions.
>wall street says: bubble? nonsense. buy buy buy.
I expect something like this in the future about [current market]

>>53595140
No refundZ also niggers always stiff its dry culture

>>53595035
Nobody?

>>53595142

I'm from freedom land - where it's always freedom time. We have guns and pussy just grows on trees.

I'm ignorant and arrogant - but at least I'm not British.

>>53595200
I just hope that we don't get stuck in another 2000 again.
>Surely this is the bottom for 3 years in a row after dotcom bubble pops
>SPX finally reaches its 2000 high in 2008, right before everything goes tits up

wtf man, converse is owned by nike now? thats gay as a fucking fag

>>53595220
that's bait, right?

>>53595220
Check dixie bro

>>53595230
I've been away all weekend, I have no idea what happened.

>>53595236
You mean everything below the Maxon-Dixon line?

>>53595241
probably fuck all. line go up, line go down. most importantly, did retail drop pennies on Friday, and if so, how deep are they now?

>>53595220
it's jsut an autist

>>53595140
wow

i regret buying the dip on friday

>>53595140

Now this funny.

>>53594909
How did u do it?

>>53595241
ok I'll spoonfeed you ..
despite all the rate hikes
>unemployment rate lowest level since 1969
>payroll 5x more than expected
>inflation still at 6.5%
>economic growth re-accelerating
>rate hikes not done
>VIX 52w low last week (rising again)
>yields almost below 4% (rising again)
>DXY rising
>CPI (MoM) rising
>megacap earnings bad + bad guidance
>recession inc
and most important sell signal:
>RETAIL GOT HOOKED AND IS BUYING CALLS (pic)

>>53595140
What you need is a side hustle doing pressure washing, car washing, dog sitting or something, and when you go into these places, carry some business cards and literature, and leave them on the appropriate doors. that way, you're doubling your productivity.

>>53595284
So nothing happened, got it.

>>53595296
well in this case: soft landing. rates peaked. inflation down. no recession. BUY BUY BUY

>>53595284
Good think I only sell options.

Another red day for natgas kek

Only 1 hour was needed to destroy all momentum since week open kek

>>53595220
bonds up

>>53595307
It's like magic.
Fair value at $0

>>53595307
Natgasfags will never ever learn

>>53595307
>>53595312
>>53595318
please, have mercy on my bags...

Oh, Turkey had a really fucking big earthquake. Confirmed 175 dead already, with hundreds to thousands more possibly trapped.
Don't know what the fuck that has to do with US futures, but there it is.

>Futes

>>53595325
Natgas does regular 5/6% drops after going up a little within the day. Why would you buy this?

8 red weeks, historic dumping and lows and people still want to catch the knife?

just got done locking down a fuckload of stuff.
probably still getting doxxed preddy easy.

huge thanks to the anon with more subs than me that dropped a comment… that helped a bit, but I unfortunately have about a thousand instances of saying the magic word that libtards hate (on top of so much more) tied over here, so not quite as easy to brush off the risk over here with the sheer amount of autism that I perform

>>53595334
I'm in too deep to pull out now

Demography brass tacks

What are the economic implications of a shrinking population for an investor?

>>53595307
imagine trading the widowmaker natgas spread
but it's still pretty funny how it got just one direction (down) week after week.

>>53595359
I do admit its relentless. Youd expect a rebound week or something, +20% to liq bear fags

>>53595336
>>53594907
>>53594909

Crazy you can change couple contrast/ exposure levers to look through black paint. Thanks for this teachable moment scoops.

>>53595341
I ll pray for you

They expect one of us in the wreckage brother

>>53595336
if you feel retarded now, just wait until your triple leveraged etfs drop another 90%. btw make a video about G.E.B.

>>53595364
yeah I think I would go insane if I held bags, every day a high digit down day week after week with not even one (1) fucking relief in between

>>53595364
it would only rebound if you had sudden unexpected cold weather and if countries had problems with their natgas reserves, since neither are true you cannot expect a rebound
the weather itself is only going to get warmer from now on, so natgas will only lose value
Natgas is a pure winter play

>>53595372
I’d love it if my ETFs would drop another 90%. I still got $40k from my sogn on bonus sitting in my savings account.
wtf is GEB?

>>53595368
The fire rises

>>53595367
You can't if it's done at 100% opacity.
The problem is with a 50% opacity paintbrush you need potentially 8 passes to truly erase the data underneath (8 bits of color).

>>53595384
You have never looked at the chart have you?

>>53594907
he posted his own videos a few days ago

>>53595384
>weather itself is only going to get warmer
that's an assumption, not a guarantee. a few volcanoes and that could change.

>>53595388
never mind unsubbed

>>53595388
you still pump money into SOXL while being -200k?
instead of playing codemonkey you should read up on leverage decay before you lose it all

>>53595414
winter is basically over. its like 40 days until spring. the number of hours of sunlight in a day is already steadily increasing. there is maybe time for 1 heavy snowfall. not enough to drive up demand like we saw last winter.

>>53595435
>you should read up on leverage decay before you lose it all
I’ve done simulations already a while ago that showed it’s negligible compared to the extra advantage you get from the market’s average upward trajectory.

You can even see for yourself: even know at such a market low, TQQQ is still outpacing the 5 year gains of QQQ.

>>53595449
correction:
even *now at such a market low

>>53595449
only with a positive bias not on neutral or down market
we're likely not going to have a V-shape recovery like you have seen 2020

>>53595449
I hope you're accounting for the true cost of leverage in those sims.
Unlike the other 3x ETF shills around here who assume a 1% risk free rate and think that the 1% management fee is the only performance drag that leveraged ETFs suffer.
Swaps and options have a cost. Black-Scholes accounts for risk free rate.

oof, y'all folks see those premarket presents? looking kinda problematic... big yikes

>>53595471
it was backtested for multiple decades, probably as much as 50 years

and yes, I meant “average” which includes recessions and bear markets.

>>53595481
im about to contango with rope futures

>>53595336
I ain't posting the linkedin but is this it?

i want to learn to trade options on futures to avoid being fucked by contango

>>53595491
unironically how do I get good at this? makes me feel retarted not understanding it

>>53595332
this market finna track him easy fr fr no cap on god

>>53595328
will have effect on "european" appliances, since a lot of them are made in turkey due to low labor costs.

>>53595549
Bullshitting is an art. Scoops is the person who designs the "HIGHLY SCALABLE ENTERPRISE SYSTEMS!!!" that cost millions of dollars to run just to fill in a checkbox in a UI somewhere.

Closed my europoor shorts from friday on break even so now we can crash

Why is NVIDIA dropping on literally no news? Such bullshit

The "no news" posting is my favorite part of these threads by far it never gets old

>>53595549
oh, that’s the crawler design
here’s some good books:
>designing data-intensive applications
>System Design Interview by Alex Xu
a really good super introductory resource that’s also free is this thing you’ll get from googling “donne martin system design primer”

>futures

just keeps going down kek

>crash happens when i closed out my shorts last friday after getting heemed

like clockwork

>>53595564
you can weed out people that don’t know hoe to do it

but then there’s this guy:
https://youtube.com/@codeKarle
and so I unfortunately do have to agree with you. he’s definitely bullshitting and yet there’s hordes of indians that thing his bullshit is good but he has message brokers in places where you need stronger consistency levels

I'm getting *really* tempted to dip into my oh-fuck-I-just-got-laid-off money to double down on SQQQ.

>>53595588
>>53595581
Crash? I'm not seeing it

>>53595564
basically, you can cry harder about not knowing how to do it, or you can just choose to start learning it.
A lot of my favorite books on the subject are by guys with PhDs—I imagine that you think CRDTs are fair dust and spanner is literally the exact same thing as DynamoDB but with twice the bill.

But again, I’m just saying you can keep crying about having a small brain or you can read these books I have by guys with PhDs on the subject of distributed systems and you can actually learn it

>>53595596
powel and so other dude are talking this week. wait for a good entry

If you aren't buying gold and silver miners you're retarded and probably a libtard

>>53595580
ty for the reccs. sorry for being mean bro

>>53595591
>>53595607
I mostly do ML stuff, but there's a yin and yang of highly scalable systems vs. highly efficient systems that most people fail to grasp. Writing tons of microservices that send data all over the place via plaintext JSON introduces an enormous amount of computational overhead vs. a tightly coupled and highly tuned compute kernel on one or a few machines. Yes, there are some applications that truly do need high scalability, but most people completely ignore the efficiency aspect of it, as well as the inefficiencies present in most common high scalability tools.

>>53595449
>>53595472
We still have dipshits trying to swing trade beta tech memes like SOXL lol. Sad. None of these SOXL fans can even describe what a Total Return Swap is, let alone get into the mechanics of why they're getting swindled

>be me
>get up and work out
>get morning Earl Grey
>pull up PM in Schwab
Woah boy, today could fun to watch.
>China stocks fell on Monday as elevated Sino-US geopolitical tensions dented investor sentiment.

>>53595621
>miners
uh oh anon.. let me guess junior miners huh? why not trade shitcoins directly?

>>53595632
>I mostly do ML stuff
So, there’s this new thing called “Machine Learning System Design” and I did 10 videos on it last weekend.
Any chance that you’ve ever heard of “collaborative filtering” or “recommender systems” before? there’s a whole chapter on it in this free stanford book: mmds.org (chapter 9)
What I’m saying is this: my “bullshit” is coming for you too, unfortunately.

>but there's a yin and yang of highly scalable systems vs. highly efficient systems that most people fail to grasp.
I’ve viewed it as more of a trade-off between complexity and availability, but high-frequency trading firms do go an orthogonal route because they care purely about speed.
you can get super low response times while not being cost effective though, and that concept is called “high availability”, typically involves shitloads of caching, and big tech absolutely loves it.

>Writing tons of microservices that send data all over the place via plaintext JSON introduces an enormous amount of computational overhead vs. a tightly coupled and highly tuned compute kernel on one or a few machines.
Amazon went that route for a while until it was 100+ engineers working on a single service in a single codebase.
Imagine over 100 crackhead engineers trying to churn out commits on one service in one codebase.
The initial carnation of “microservices”, which was SOA, had nothing to do with software scalability and everything to do with human process scalability—there were no hardware or software bottlenecks, it was a people bottleneck.

>Yes, there are some applications that truly do need high scalability, but most people completely ignore the efficiency aspect of it, as well as the inefficiencies present in most common high scalability tools
“inefficiency” in the sense that you’re describing is negligible to them. If they cared about it in your sense, they’d be using C or erlang instead of java

VIXOOOOOO

>>53595658
Futures aren't happy either

>>53595634
Works on my machine

>>53595658
According to anonymous, possibly schizophrenic, air force employees on /pol/, the balloon was carrying ground penetrating radar to map out US strategic bunkers, and that's why it had to get close. It's probably bullshit, but I'm inclined to believe it since that's the first explanation I've heard that makes senss. Also supposedly Biden knew this and protect the balloon, and then made some story about previous balloons before he took office.

>>53595634
I did a 30-50 year backtest with kelly criterion, and the backtest was pretty conclusive, so I’d imagine whatever you’re talking about didn’t apply to me

I SOLD MY SHORTS AT FRIDAY WITH A 72% LOSS AND NOW THE CRASH BEGINS
FUCK THIS GAY EARTH

>>53595621
Y-you're not buying mineless mining penny stocks are you, anon? Have deal to take core samples but haven't found anything yet? Those are the classic.

>>53595694
you sold after 4 weeks of endless pumping on muh pivot hopium?

nasdumpbros...

>>53595686
Literally this

>>53595694
>>53595588
Skill issue

>>53595687
Has anything "made in China" ever really worked properly? What amazed me the most was the fact the Pentagon knew this thing was coming when it was floating over Japan and chose to do nothing about it until it passed into the Atlantic. Peak fucking clown world. China will not start a nuclear war. They need our land to feed their people as China does not have the furtile lands for agriculture like we do. Nukes destroy that land. Could see them launching EMP attacks though.

Why isn't the market crashing yet?!

BUDDY

>futures

>>53595717
In the current bull retard sentiment 1% down is a crash

CHEST PAIN, FATIGUE, AND VAXXED
WHAT ARE MY CHANCES THIS WEEK?

>VIX computer

>>53595713
Again, the dude may have been a schizo, but the guy said that it was basically a mapping run in preparation for a nuclear strike.

>>53595732

>>53595733
>dxy (dicksy)

>>53595735
It was literally just a balloon, just so happen to be over the most schizo country in the world

is it 200 iq to buy in with a bull 20x leverage after the open sell off

>>53595754
The payload weighed several tons. It was hueg.

>>53595754
the whole story is peak fake and gay and I find it hilarious it is actually pushing chink stocks down lol

VIX about to spike hard

>Disney cuts "Simpson" episode featuring Chinese 'forced labour camps' in Hong Kong
Chinese cusks

>>53595760
yeah, fake double top
https://youtu.be/--tahgqhV3g
https://youtu.be/yiFKq4yUbfE
https://youtu.be/hZV3Jr6neHw

>>53595761
It was some pretty good trolling by China

>>53595690
SOXL / leveraged ETF rotation strategy is basically /smg/'s version of the thetagang garbage strategy. Both strategies have zero edge, -ve EV, and delude retail into thinking they have all their risk (i.e. basis risk, vol risk, etc) covered. Your dogshit backtesting with faulty priors. There is no alpha in any of these backtesting strategies

Kelly only works If the forecasted distribution Is correct. The math part is the easy part, the hard part is forecasting the future distribution.
essentially forecasting probs. The main problem with kelly in trading is knowing the win probability...therefore usually go with 1/2 kelly to account for uncertainty.

I just think that Kelly is overrated for investing, because you can easily run a few backtests and come up with some optimal allocation(s), or simply assess the P&L curve visually and decide what’s good for you. Just like in modern portfolio theory, I don’t think they use Kelly?

Anyways, the Kelly part is controversial. But what is not controversial is that you fucking /smg/ retards need to get over your SOXL bagholding and stop acting like there's any alpha in these betashit leveraged rotation strats

Im going to short natural gas with x10 leverage.

>>53595792
enjoy your free money

>>53595779
>muh double top
I hate TA fags so much
the simple answer is: economy shit, earnings shit -> price down

nevermind, im going to long white genocide like usual. Its a win win.

>>53595792
Post proof

>>53595785
Breh I have 4 figs account

>>53595792
>>53595794
is this the move?

A robust + successful + well defined algotrading process:

>1) Data - Clean, Accurate, Formatted, and Lots of Data
>2) Features - Anything that predicts returns! (can be another models prediction, a filter (Kalman/MA/etc), an indicator (RSI/MACD/etc), a signal (if RSI > 80: 1, if RSI < 20: -1, else: 0).
>3) Combination - PCA, Autoencoding, and more! (use some intuition with this, PCA is linear so maybe do that with some momentum indicators and do the momentum indicators together, on the reverse you may want something more non-linear (Autoencoder?) for mean reversion / seasonality / non-linear features

>4) Specific Modelling - hierarchical modelling, either time or cluster based. (cluster based might be: model momentum indicators together with linear regressions or something that suits them, or wave indicators with LSTMs or Wavenet which suits them)& (time based is using models for different timeframes, short term doesn't give AF about financials, but long term does so maybe model separately, on this note the longer you go the more linear your models should be)
>5) General Modelling - finally combine everything
>6) Risk management/ Regime shift/ Position sizing/ Meta-Labeling - this is a whole lecture in itself (modified kelly for position sizing, regime is Hierarchal HMM or/and GMM, meta-labelelling is just rinse and repeat, (modeling your model btw))

jesus man, did USA shooting down those chinese balloons get investors shook or what??

>>53595795
the truth is that nobody can predict the next candle

>>53595802

AN EARTHQUAKE JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>>53595785
b-but I thought some fagman from /smg/ who copy+pasted a predefined equation into his """backtesting"""" strategy can easily predict future prices?

>>53595827
Free money hack with natgas kek

i tried really hard to keep the second to last smg thread alive but i was looking for stocks that had to relate with the production of fireworks, so while preparing a nice little update post i read a little further only to find most discussions of this organizational approach to a logical sequence of results is either not a forte of Google or a popular structure and flesh of conversation from the like-minded writers to the English speaking public seeking such topics.

and i failed to post in time to keep the thread alive as a sort of flex for the board in opposition to other business based boards under this sites traditional style. please forgive me ben.

>>53595827
Oh, on Etoro you receive money for shorting atm (refunds). On CMC and maybe on IG (their overnight preview is bugged since July 2022 (since ever essentially, because it's a new feature)) you pay for shorting and receive money for longing overnight.

>>53595694
I dunno how the market is gonna react to the jobs report being cooked though

>>53595785
>Both strategies have zero edge
I literally backtested it.
It beats the market average.
Smarter people have backtested it too; I was able to replicate their results.

>Your dogshit backtesting with faulty priors.
It’s 30-50 years of data; I have no idea what you’re talking about
>There is no alpha in any of these backtesting strategies
it literally beats the market average. That is the most “no u” response that I’ve seen on /smg/

>Kelly only works If the forecasted distribution Is correct
well absolutely fucking zero strategies can actually predict the future.
A fuck load of historical data does a pretty fucking good job though.

>therefore usually go with 1/2 kelly to account for uncertainty
I fucking know the stupidity of doing a full kelly risk approach.

>I just think that Kelly is overrated for investing
GAY.
name your better metric.
>simply assess the P&L curve visually
LOL JUST EMBRACE YOUR GUT BRO
literally the emotional aspect of investing that I’m trying to cut out entirely.

>Just like in modern portfolio theory, I don’t think they use Kelly?
>missing citation
wrong again, niqqa

>Anyways, the Kelly part is controversial
GAY

>need to get over your SOXL bagholding
go back to r*ddit
I’m mostly TQQQ/SPXL; the SOXL is just a little spice but everyone fixates on the SOXL position like it’s the only fucking thing I’m holding because we’re on 4chan

>stop acting like there's any alpha in these betashit leveraged rotation strats
literally go back to r*ddit with these trash takes from being to lazy to actually read the due diligence that’s out there

>>53595687
>According to anonymous, possibly schizophrenic, air force employees on /pol/, the balloon was carrying ground penetrating radar
That is absolute nonsense. I work in archaeology and we use geophysical equipment a lot. A GPR powerful enough to penetrate that much bedrock from that altitude would need an insane amount of energy which isn't possible to get from the solar arrays on that balloon and would basically be a death ray. If solar panels were that good we'd have endless free electricity.

>>53595891
Well, he didn't explicity say GPR. I added that part. He just said it was going some kind of subsurface mapping of bunkers and tunnels. Gravimetric mapping is a thing, right?

>>53595906
*doing

fuck

>>53595812
>pitching LSTMs
gross
that sounds like an absolute bitch to train.

>Wavenet
so, I’m seeing “wave”
have you considered a fast fourier transform as part of the data cleaning?

regardless that’s an absolute fucking shitload of work, and the just hold leverage backtested well and is a passive strategy.
Go ahead and snort a shitload of crack and do your strategy, but that’s too much fucking shit for me.

>>53595140
Get a job other than delivery. The most obvious jobs are usually the shittiest jobs.

>>53595684
im confused. can you make a balalaika one of these thingies? blade runner guy need adult.

>>53595889
>I’m mostly TQQQ/SPXL; the SOXL is just a little spice but everyone fixates on the SOXL position like it’s the only fucking thing I’m holding because we’re on 4chan
so besides SOXL you're also bagholding TQQQ and SPXL?
can't make this shit up

>>53595779
>this nigger made a line from July of 2022
>called it double top

>>53595889
Look my retard friend, I don't think you actually know how Leveraged ETF's work, so we can skip that discussion entirely because it will be like trying to discuss mechanical engineering with a pygmy.

For nonarb strategies (your retarded Leveraged ETF strat), a kelly is crazy, in terms of how much PnL variance you will suffer. I would only run a kelly betting system If my risk Is defined + If the variance of the EV Is low.

People who use a kelly on naked positions are the biggest idiots on earth — especially retail traders.

I guess my ultimate point is that gamblers on stock forums like /smg/ basically do "backtesting" as properly as you expect a guy with Down's syndrom and late stage Parkinson's disease to do a photorealistic acrylic painting

>>53595914
>that sounds like an absolute bitch to train.
As with any deployable model that properly incorporates feature transforms, its going to be a bitch. Finding actual alpha is a bitch. otherwise you're just gambling


I still laugh my ass off thinking about /smg/ virgins who think they've found some untapped edge in the market from betashit leveraged ETF's like SOXL. fucking kek

>>53595925
so you mean you’re a smol spec with the attention span of a rodent?
I’m literally not surprised at all.

>>53595942
you're bagholding SOXL and bought on top MORE tech with TQQQ are you completely retarded?
the market will not recover within years you dumb negro. leverage will eat you alive

>>53595940
guys like you are the reason I over pay for 1 share on occasion.
You're welcome.

>>53595140
lol

>>53595140
No refunds.

>>53595914
>so, I’m seeing “wave”
>have you considered a fast fourier transform as part of the data cleaning?
Stay in your lane, flow chart man. It's a type of autoregressive CNN architecture that Google invented for live speech smoothing on video calls.

>>53595812
At one point I had built a profitable deep learning trading robot that got huge returns, but getting it up and running was such a pain in the ass, only for it to stop working a short time later, which caused so much heartbreak that I vowed never to work on trading bots again. They're an infinite time sink, and for the amount of effort it takes to get one working, you could have just founded your own startup instead.

>>53595940
bro, I’m literally just investing my own money here and I have a day job that pays more than $300k/yr
I could care less about how my $200k investment is currently shitting the bed and isn’t beating Jim fucking Simmons at weaponized autism. I have alternatives in my career that make better return on investment with less effort than literally trying to train an LSTM on a zero-sum adversarial problem that a squadron of 100 PhDs or so has already beaten the absolute piss out of.

I just trade memelines

https://vocaroo.com/15gdjd48mf7H

>>53595977
yeah! what he said!

>futures

My fucking longs and calls are getting heemed FUCK

>backtesting
lol computer says $$$$

SOXSbasterds today WAGMI

>>53595968
>but getting it up and running was such a pain in the ass, only for it to stop working a short time later, which caused so much heartbreak that I vowed never to work on trading bots again. They're an infinite time sink, and for the amount of effort it takes to get one working, you could have just founded your own startup instead
So, like I’ve said, they’re an absolute bitch to train
Maybe you should try a more passive strategy
Like perhaps just bagholding SSO while learning skills to grow your salary
OR, if you’re feeling spicy and NOT like a pedantic eggheaded bitch boy for once in your lufe, you can pump your risk and literally /all-in/ on SOXL

>>53595968
Deep learning stuff seldom works for long. I worked with someone who turned down $25 million from this firm who had a deep learning model actually using factor exposure to sort of replace components. It rebalanced daily, held for 1-10 days, 1.5(?) on average, and used Reinforcement Learning to revise risk management overnight.

They were touting something absurd like 800% YoY. Needless to say, that deep learning models are used like 1% of the time by actual RIA's / CPO's /CTA's so retards like this >>53595977 can rest assured that the models that Jim Simons and co. use are not good because of the model complexity (but because of sheer data quantity, feature transforms, etc).

The more complex trading models just literally do not have alpha.

Renaissance Tech openly admits their actual component models are very simple but aggregate to high complexities.

>>53595983
what voice sample are you using

also i do post my folio, it's

NiSource Inc.
Green Giant Inc.
Reliance Steel & Aluminum Co

>>53595997
Future is blood red right now
SOXS/SQQQ bros, wgmi

For US investors, is international exposure actually important?

CTA/CPO don't use complex deep learning models, but as I understand in that industry many times the most popular model is the best model. There is just so much flow trading in CTA. All old white milkbreathies. Like everyone is still using momentum models. 2010 papers and stuff like that. Lol.

>>53596021
all the important companies already list in the US anyway. everyone favorite meme shipper, ZIM, isnt even an american company

>>53595997
>>53596010
Got heemed badly over the past month. The false drops have been traumatizing that I just don't have much hope anymore. All i see are pillars of green

>>53596021
that's worth it if you want assets in non USD. Currently USD is strong so not really. You can look at
https://indices.cib.barclays/IM/21/en/indices/static/historic-cape.app
and buy the bottom, but you have to take ETF demonimated in USD, not the shitty local currency.

>>53596027
>Like everyone is still using momentum models.
momentum models work as long as humans are still trading

>>53596007

I'm only posting this because you asked.

4chan has been having fun with this. We are currently trying to clone the technology and make it opensource.

You can clone voices like: Jim Cramer, Cathie Wood, Jerome Powell, etc.

>>53595990
Greedy fucking nigger

>>53596002
sounds like an open admission that you’re literally just making shit up and name dropping some terms from spicy whitepapers to try and sound smart

like I said, training an LSTM for a hobby project for just your own money sounds like a bitch and you should maybe consider a passive strategy, mr egghead

>>53596001
It's way more than just the "training". You don't even know man. I was using a bespoke unpublished/proprietary time series architecture that I had developed at work. Anyway, after that I realized it makes more sense just to invest using a pure macro strategy, and then also re-focus my efforts on getting my own company off the ground to escape the wage cage.

>>53596040
nice and thanks fren

>>53596021
>>53596031
for instance you take an ETF turkey. Turkey is utter shit with a shitty currency, but with the ETF Turkey, in USD, you get a huge return compared to sp500

https://stockcharts.com/freecharts/perf.php?$SPX,TUR

>>53596032
>and now they’ve gone from waxing about big brain LSTMs all the way over to momentum models from babby’s first quantopian toy project
Fucking wow.

Sell.

>>53596079
>bro I read an equation on wiki
>backtest
>le big gains
>let me put my money into SOXL, TQQQ and SPXL
>it will surely do a V-shape recovery soon and I'm rich
>shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

>>53596032
Yeah momentum and reversion always will have alpha. People can, however, generate super high returns with pairs trading using deep learning.
>>53596049
Do something like that for work. We like trading pairs. Most of the book is pairs trading so one week mean reversion trades. The average half life is about 7 days. And it’s a very sharp gradient in those 7 days. At a shorter timeframe this strat works to trade semi HFT stuff.

In essence it is pairs mean reversion — diverge from each other, or converge, and I trade them.
Cluster assets and find pairs in that cluster.

For ex biotech equities

Basically you have 3 parts to your clustering
Industry data, price data, and long term quality data.You could decompose the industry data into 3 levels
>level 1 would be industry such as healthcare
>level 2 would be like drug manufacturing
>level 3 would be cancer drugs.
And obviously you make this quantitative by saying okay they are 60% cancer drugs 40% heart meds and hence they are in multiple tier 3 clusters. Basically this part is easy, you just decompose the 2SD range with a shumway stoffer smoother because kalman is too conservative and then model the tails conditionally.

Then you decompose their returns into an alpha factor framework which when it comes down to it should basically be all value and quality signals

Basically you feed in IV, IC, IS and their premiums to a regime shift and a Q net deep reinforcement learning algorithm where you reinforce trigger based behaviour so that it sets a trigger level not just tries to actively trade the spread. You need attribute embedding with an LSTM as well to help it manage risk and an autoencoder or encoder decoder setup to denoise the data (I go further with aforementioned alpha factors to explain returns when I denoise). Also use a SARIMAX because believe it or not a VAR model is pretty shit and won’t remove all your predictability

why dont we just find a renaissance employee and encourage them nicely to tell us how they trade so we can make money

>>53596107
lmao

>>53596064
>It's way more than just the "training". You don't even know man
I want to use an approach that used a grid of SVMs that were trained on varying data skews (x axis) and to different gain or loss cut-off percentages (y axis), to have some kind of confidence interval thing for either the whole market or different stocks getting ranked by confidence,
and then I realized what a butch it’d be to just get all the data, and to hook it up to something like Interactive Brokers.

Some dude that actually did this stuff professionally told me around 5-6 years back that he used SVMs, and I had to implement one by hand on an exam before—that’s why I chose SVMs
Plus, they really work well for smaller data sizes (what I’d end up with) and data skews for specifying minimizing Type I vs Type II errors

>>53596107
Kek

>>53596107
it’s not my fault that you have the patience of a goldfish.
I don’t give a fuck that you’re gonna stay poor.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I go camping for a couple days with a canoe, a tent, and no phone service, and come back to this. Wtf did you guys do?

>>53596095
bottom is in.

>>53596157
We shorted for a month and finally capitulated

this market is so crabby now

DESPITE ALL MY RAGE I'M STILL JUST A WAGE IN A CAGE

Kek.
Did bulltards finally check the January CPI nowcast

man I listened to that conference call with AMZN. Jassy feels like such a weak leader with shit communication skills. Doesn't inspire confidence.

I predict that his ass will be gone by the end of 2023 and will be replaced with some yes man. Stock will plummet and that company will spiral same way IBM and Sears did.

>>53596243
Speaking of Amazon, why the fuck have they removed so much content from Prime Video?

No Mr Robot, no X-Files, no SoA, and loads of other shit. Gotta pay for that shite LOTR show that no one cares about I guess.

>>53596283
their expanses on LOTR and WOT are troubling
they wasted like 2 billion on those two shows with nothing in return

FUCK

>>53595142
Wakey, wakey, eggs amd bakie

>>53596283
They got rid of some Amazon fresh grocery stores and even their Smiles charity program too. Feels surreal that even AMZN is losing more and more money.

>>53595713
Dude your iPhone is made in china.

why is india so pissed

>>53596243
yeah he's probably done. AWS did miss estimates like 4 or 5 times already so their cash cow is slowing down
the e-commerce stuff got no big margin anyway and he seems he has no real vision to growth AMZN further.

>>53596303
what is your wagie cagie

>>53596322
will India invade with a balloon too?

market crash cuz of earthquake in turkey. sell

>>53596322
They're mad because they have to shit in the street.

>>53596339
imagine a balloon filled with shit

Don’t forget to invest in dividend aristocrats. After 10 years you are making an average 14% dividend yield every year and it only grows

>>53596340
>turkish industry core to US
>darkest day in US trading history incoming!

HEEEEEEEEEY GUYSSSS
ESPECIALLY YOUUU SCOOPSIES
HEEEY GUYYSSSSS
HEEEEEEEEYYYYY

>>53596381
turkey is hosting like 3 million syrian rapefueges who are going to be unleashed on europe now. this will affect the german economy since they will all beeline there, and will affect the entire world as a result

>>53596322
A well-respected US research firm (Hindenberg) released a report accusing a MASSIVE Indian conglomerate (Adani Group) of fraud. The accusation has devastated the stock price of the Indian firm, and (if true) could theoretically even force the resignation of the Indian prime minister, due to his strong ties to the Adani Group CEO.

(Hindenberg is the same firm that busted the EV startup Nikola for faking their prototype EV truck.)

>>53596219
I'm a bear, but I don't think that will change much in the Fed's decisions. They will keep raising til 5% and probably won't go above. They'll rather wait and see first if it changes and only then go higher (End of 2023 at best).

>>53596389
This. Earthquake in turkey means that german GDP just dropped 90%.

>>53596389
Germany loves rapefugees

>>53596389
Someone activate the Greeks.

>>53596421
this unbelievable faggot couldn't tell you to buy more shit on Friday if his forehead was tattooed with the nigger companies that he shills for.
this is a buy signal.

>>53596421
Jim was right on Wednesday, so I will believe him for this

NO MUMU WTF GIVE IT BACK

>>53595140
I never tip either. And never give 5 stars either. And sometimes I'll complain to get my money back plus 5 dollars. Thanks for the service anon

new

>>53596464
>>53596464
>>53596464

>>53596339
YOU THINK THAT'S FUNNY?

>>53594909
Based, name fagging fuck

>>53595140
North Scottsdale?

>>53594487
What?