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The Golden Dawn Edition

Commodities include
>Precious metals
Gold, Silver, Platinum group metals
>Energy
Oil, Natural Gas, Uranium, Coal
>Base Metals
Copper, Iron ore, Nickel, Lithium, Cobalt, Zinc, Lead
>Others
Water, Agricultural, Salt

More information for each commodity
https://pastebin.com/tduUv8Ny
Calculators for DD
https://pastebin.com/TsRtpKHs
Steer Clear List
https://pastebin.com/V571vwse
News Sources
https://pastebin.com/bQFESpBL

>Youtube channels to follow
Palisade Gold Radio, Mining Stocks Education, Sprott Money, Goldsilver pros (Rob Kientz), Finding Value Finance, Gregory Mannarino, Peter Schiff, Macro Voices, Crux Investor
>Canadian junior press releases
https://twitter.com/JrMiningNetwork
>Newsfeed
https://twitter.com/zerohedge

>What is Austrian economics?
https://mises.org/what-austrian-economics
>Austrian economics books
What has government done to our money (Rothbard), The mystery of banking (Rothbard), and Profit & Loss (Mises)

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>> No.53541319

Previous >>53505879
My bad.

>> No.53541371

bigger move in 2023: gold or uranium?
>gold
bigger move in 2023: gold miners or uranium miners?
>uranium miners

>> No.53541501

bigger move down in 2023: lithium or uranium?
>lithium
bigger move down in 2023: lithium miners or uranium miners?
>lithium miners

>> No.53541548

Bigger faggot in 2023
>Hard to determine

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>>53541289
>The Golden Dawn Edition

The kike on the tamp button edition

>> No.53541661

>>53541590
If that's the best they can do, then they are losing their touch.

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>>53541661

>> No.53542730

Holy fuck, is there anything more annoying than looking at gold or silver charts? Never just plain up or down, always some kind of fucking seesaw action going on. I'm not even trading and I'm getting annoyed.

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I hate the money changers so much bros

>> No.53542903

Sitting here debating as to whether 15% FCF is enough while all the shitcos rally 300%.
As it goes... As it goes...

>> No.53543708

First for gold

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>>53542498
Silver fomo sisters...

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Ok, feel free to call me autistic all you want guys but i saw this picture in the last thread and i really need to buy it. not the machine but a company that's mining salt with cool machines like this. any one here invested in the salt market and can teach me the basics? would be fun to eventually build a small SALT FUND with a couple of small caps and bigger companies.

>> No.53543943

There's a new ETF in town.

https://sprott.com/urnj-sprott-junior-uranium-miners-etf/

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>>53543943
Oh shit, there's more.

>Sprott Asset Management LP, a wholly owned subsidiary of Sprott Inc., has launched four exchange-traded funds (ETFs) focused on providing investors pure play exposure to critical minerals essential to the generation, transmission and storage of cleaner energy. The four funds are Sprott Energy Transition Materials ETF (Nasdaq: SETM), Sprott Lithium Miners ETF (Nasdaq: LITP), Sprott Junior Uranium Miners ETF (Nasdaq: URNJ) and Sprott Junior Copper Miners ETF (Nasdaq: COPJ)

>> No.53544393

is it over? should i have never ever come here and just kept buying the tech dip?

>> No.53544513

>>53543943
Yoooo it's flywheel time
Eventually

>> No.53544583

HNU having a chaotic morning

>> No.53545077

>>53544014
Awesome now I have to decide between COPX, and COPJ.

>> No.53545201

>>53544583

i boughted at 2 CAD. this seems close enough to the bottom for me, even if natgas shids the bed a lil more i dont mind averaging down. gonna be a gnarly winter at some point.

>> No.53545358

Just bought the platinum dip.

>> No.53545625

>>53545358
I fomoed today morning (yesterday night for mutts)

>> No.53545648

>>53545077
Interesting way to spell natgas vs natgas

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>>53545648
Two different spellings of cope
One for each gender

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>>53542740
>>53542730
They will milk your ass if you try to trade this shit. Only way to win is to DCA into physical and undervalued miners. Cant stay sane otherwise. Paycheck just hit my broker account, I'll be the last one laughing motherfucker !

>> No.53546636

>>53545648
I'm no technical trader but it seems that natural gas may see some serious support at $0.

>> No.53546902

>>53546636
From what I've gathered itt with regards to oil trading they'll be paying you to fill your propane tank soon

>> No.53547213

Imagine instead of wasting money on commodities you bought the Msft, appl, or tsla dip. Losers, all of you. Say the line, 2024 will be your year.

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>>53541289
Alright so we're moving into the daily cycle low. Next move up should be the test of all time highs. I'll let you guys know when Gary says to take leverage.

>> No.53547392

>>53543799
Salt is the only publicly traded salt company and their pea only guarantees a 3x at minimum so its a shitty investment and you don't want it. But meta is up 30% on the otherhand.

>> No.53547445

>>53547213
I actually care about feeling like a God honest man at the end of the day so I'd never buy your tech faggotry. No amount of gains is worth sacrificing my dignity and being a cuck. Imagine caring about fleeting things. I'll take the generational wealth opportunity in commodities right now along with the financial security that comes that.

>> No.53547477

>>53547213
One drop of the liquid testosterone sweat from my balls would knock you out like that monkey falling out of the tree. You'll never be a man faggot.

I just wrecked weights for like three hours last night blasting screaming metal music and today I'm gonna go do it again for another three hours. I look at little tech faggots like you and it makes me sick.

>> No.53547528

>>53547213
If there was a crypto coin called "if you buy this you're a faggot" coin and I bet you'd buy it if gains were good enough.

>> No.53547696

Trevali Mining is finally done. That was an interesting look at what can happen to a company after a major incident.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/caribou-mine-receivership-new-brunswick-1.6726024

>> No.53547726

>>53547477
>Id
>UZI

>> No.53547745

>>53547726
\m/

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>> No.53548035

What uranium miner can I make a 6 month call option on?

>> No.53548335

>>53547445
>>53547477
>>53547528
Prove it wrong. You people have been calling the end of the world for decades, and these threads have suckered in so many people to lose their money.

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>>53548335
And we've been correct every time

>> No.53548770

>>53548335
>people lose money
Unlike the rest of /biz/ who are consistenly making money 7 days a week on shitcoins. I personally have never seen a pink wojak outside of /cmmg/.

Time to pack up fellas, after all this guy says so just as gold is preparing to test its ATH. Nobody really needs commodities anyway

>> No.53549612

>>53548035
UUUU was what I used for swinging and writing CCs. It's cheap so it's easy to scale, but not too cheap.
Otherwise, UEC or URNM, which are respectively small with few strikes, or expensive to do. UUUU is just right

>> No.53549646

Ok, brose, what were your losses for the day?
t. -1.8%

>> No.53549721

>>53544014
>>53543943
URNM is still the best imo, simply because it has such hard weighting towards yellowcake, kazatom, and physical. Wouldn't hurt to have a small bag of URNJ.

As for copper, I was holding COPP.TO, and couldn't trade COPX due to being in Canada and some new IRS rules... maybe COPJ would be worth it. I know it's highly correlated to the markets, though. At least other commodities do their own thing.

>> No.53549883

>>53549646
For some reason, my portfolios are green. Got SL'd on a copper position and had to exit with $30 profit. Also have a spread on SPY that'll pay off if it moves more than 1 SD away from it's current price over a year (eg tail risk insurance). I have small bags of AMZN and VIX that went well today.

As far as gold goes, GLD crossed under my baseline and seems there are some confirmations to short it in the near term (eg over the next 3-4 weeks). Seems the market is optimistic.

>> No.53550208

SALT closed the gap. Is the suffering finally over?

>> No.53551132

>>53550208

At least it's now free to move without any worry. I was afraid it was going to bounce before closing that, making us wait for weeks for the close.
I do have a feeling that it's either going a bit lower and consolidates there or consolidation around here.
After all why not try to shake out as many investors as possible while we're already down here? Just keep the price down and going sideways for a while and that should do it.

>> No.53552513

https://www.mining.com/sojitz-to-sell-stake-in-gibraltar-copper-mine-to-taseko/

Interesting news on the Gibraltar Copper mine in the BC southern Interior, its one of the largest copper mines in Canada. The bank involved doesnt want it on their books anymore due to falling grades and issues on site. I wonder if any other parties will want to buy in? That mine has another 30 years potentially left in it.

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53552532

Should I buy the SALT dip?
Someone give me a quick rundown on SALT

>> No.53552601

>>53552532

it's one of the largest salt deposits found in north america. going to be the second largest producer after the one in ontario, will probably run for 30+ years. very high quality, very easy to mine, two clicks from a deepwater port. value is kinda hazy right now for a lot of reasons. the owners really just want to sell it off to someone else. shorters shaking out the riffraff. hard to say just how much salt is worth these days

for me, the size, quality, and projected lifespan of the mine make this an easy buy for me, even at current price. dyodd

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>>53552532
Not yet. SALT was founded as a strategic company for road salt, right? It was a fucking mild winter and people are cooling off on it, the same way they're backing off of natgas.
Besides that, all my TA is saying it'll drop lower for a bit. I'd probably wait until 1.50 or lower first. That said, you should set a "fomo panic price" and chose a level to buy in if it retraces back up

>> No.53552615

>>53552601

PEA was released a couple days ago, give that a read also

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>>53552615
It was only the summary that was released. The devil is always in the details.
It's interesting to note that Atlas made sure to close its $10M financing before the summary was released.

>> No.53553345

>>53552601
>>53552615
very interesting

>>53552604
okay I might consider waiting for it to dip lower
Where do you see it going in the next year?

>> No.53553538

>>53553345
None of us really knows if there is a market for the salt. We still have existing salt mines with long lifespans, so the risk of it seems to be that the only one willing to buy is an existing salt producer (compass). If we had someone with inside knowledge on the salt industry then maybe we could ascertain if one of the producers is liable to buy it out in a hurry, but as is we can really only go by Rowland's claims of a bidding war, multiple suitors, strategic investments, etc...

>Where do you see it going in the next year?
If Salt hasn't been bought out by 2024 I'd consider it more or less a bust. At that point it'll be clear that the few buyers are fine waiting it out, and even though Atlas plans to advance the project themselves there's really no telling if they'll succeed.

That's my honest assessment as someone who really only jumped in for a swing play and regrets it.

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>>53553538
The logistics alone should, all other things being equal, be enough of a factor to be significantly impactful to their ability to provide an fairly inelastic consumable resource for a very competitive price point. Another anon asked about overland options via rail bridge from newfoundland but I have yet to explore that. Not that anyone else should do this, but I consider logistics to carry the same weight as jurisdiction when it comes to mining in any way, manner, shape, form, or fashion.
What good is an unregulated wild west if you can't get a road, airstrip, sea port, or whatever to the mine?
What good is a brand new road, airstrip or seaport if you can't get a permit to operate the mine?
This is why I even bought salt in the first place. Comparatively, they should be able to elbow their way to the table, should they have the intent to produce. Maybe just poise to take a seat only to bluff another player to buy you out so you don't compete.
I wouldn't be sending my people to conferences and running up tabs, I'd start hiring outside firms to assess barriers to entry, maybe even employ a couple of hired guns to make waves in the right direction. Nothings as unnerving as fearlessness

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The honey moonshine turned out well. Expensive for only a 130 proof average tho

>> No.53554060

>>53553829
>>53553538
>CP Rail has the rights to a complete transnational railway connecting Canada to Mexico via just one (1) company
Mexico can get all the road salt it needs for the winter. Bullish

>> No.53554099

>>53554060
Whew. And I thought only southern Texas froze in the winter

>> No.53554126

>>53553538
>>53553829
Atlas wouldn't have landed that $10M in this economy if they didn't have a high probability of success.

>> No.53554141

>>53554099
I was just shitposting, I don't think Mexico is capable of snow

>> No.53554252

>>53554141
Idk myself
Mexico city is 8000ft tho.

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>>53552532
>Someone give me a quick rundown on SALT
There is literally salt everywhere. The ocean consists of 3.5% salt and you can literally just let the water evaporate in a large basin and you have free salt. Don't buy.

On surface it obv seems like a good opportunity, which is why retail is all over this name. But noone can explain why Compass didn't just buy Atlas when they were trading at 5c, they had the deposit back then too. Could have just offered 10 or 15c, and gotten it practically for free. Why didn't they? what changed since then making it worth orders of magnitude more today? and please, don't tell me they didn't know about a huge salt deposit close by.
The answer probably is that this will most likely be a low margin operation that will take a very long time to pay back. Seaborn salt competes with African and Chilean product, where salaries are a fraction of what they are in Canada. Maybe they can make a decent profit at current market prices, but what happens when they dump a huge amount of additional salt into the market? what are the margins of other suppliers? noone has any idea, perhaps they can afford to lower asking price.
It's over for the saltbros... fortunately some may still be in at a profit, time to bank that and move on imo. This could of course still end up paying off, I'm not expert on the salt sector either. But it's a huge gamble, might as well invest in gold.

>> No.53554285

>>53554254
>There is literally salt everywhere
You can also get it for free at McDonald's or on Twitter Dot Com

>> No.53554286

why do you invest in commodities, which seems to harder to trade in, than regular stocks? are there more returns with commodities? sure, in theory you could make a killing on nat gas, but you could also get ruined like thousands of people are right now because of the seemingly unpredictable and unreasonable move of a commodity.

>> No.53554292

>In 2012, we acquired mining rights to approximately 100 million tons of salt resources in the Chilean Atacama Desert
>This resource estimate is based upon an initial assessment
>A feasibility study would be completed before we decide whether to proceed with the development of this project

Feel like this puts a bit of a damper on buyout talks prior to FS, at least with compass. I'm getting too paranoid with this stuff. Feel like Rowland is blowing smoke up our asses with a lot of his talk.

>> No.53554309

>>53554126
It was done at a discount to market with free warrants. Off takers could have shorted the stock previous to buying in the offering and made a risk free profit + free warrants. Not sure if this is illegal, but they will probably do it anyway.
>>53554285
Thas right.

>> No.53554366

>>53554309
>Off takers could have shorted the stock previous to buying in the offering and made a risk free profit + free warrants

This is another of the worrisome notes. There was no hold period and salt picked up more than 2 million shorts in the 2 week reporting period prior to the financing. Doesn't account for the full 5 million shares but we still have the next reporting period. Needless to say if millions of shares end up covering without moving the SP up then we'll know we got screwed. Unfortunately all this short reporting is done with sizable delays so retail loses.

>> No.53554368

>>53554254
>might as well invest in gold.
spoonfeed me some good junior mining stocks friend

>> No.53554460

>>53554286
Markets are just as random and manipulated. The key is diversification, risk management, and trading psychology.
If I want a 2% portfolio risk per trade, I need $800 in BOIL to match the risk of like $12800 in a SPY trade.
Some people are bearish on the US itself and want gold for long term stability since the dollar isnt risk-off enough. Etc etc. Everyone has different goals, strategy and theses.

>> No.53554464

>>53554368
Canagold is my fav. Banyan Gold may also be a straightforward good play with good leverage to gold price.

>> No.53554598

this MLX dip even while peru is shut, yum

>> No.53554763

>>53554464
thanks anon I will buy the can of gold for under a dollar
what a deal

>> No.53555326

>>53554254
>There is literally salt everywhere. The ocean consists of 3.5% salt and you can literally just let the water evaporate in a large basin and you have free salt.
Oh boy. There is a fatal flaw with that opinion but i won't tell you what it is.

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>>53554254
Not all salts are the same.
>Why didn't they buy when it was cheaper
Capital isn't always on tap. Owning a business isn't a guarantee of revenue. I have a small stake in atlas but I'm not addicted to it. If anything it's an opportunity to learn. I could've put that money into sand and been up ~50%

>> No.53555646

>>53548335
I'm not calling the end of the world faggot I'm just saying that gold, oil and silver are undervalued, nuclear energy is probabky undervalued and industrial metals are probably undervalued and then not only that but these metals are facing aerious supply issues and you objectively can't argue with that.

>> No.53555655

>>53551132
Another thing too was that it was the end of the month as well which is always bad for us. I'd hope it's green days ahead.

>> No.53555914

>>53554286
You can't have equities, derivatives, or any other asset without commodities.
They are undervalued because more receipt s exist than deliverables of every commodity to enable hastier futures trades. Like a bank run but for actual stuff instead of govt fiat
It's won't be an apocalypse, merely a revaluation akin to tulip mania

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>>53552601
>will probably run for 30+ years

Based on laughably low estimates. Theoretically could run for 300 if all the reserves were profitable enough to dig for, which is obviously never the case but says a lot about how monumentally conservative the pea was. Renewable fag was bashing it as overly optimistic but as you can see it's quite the opposite, they're presenting it in the most boomer tier conservative way possible to show that it was balls to the wall guaranteed free money even then, just for the sake of the bull argument.

WAGMI SALT CHADS

>> No.53556084

>>53555914
that situation has existed for over a century now, is there any particular reason you think it's going to suddenly stop working now?

>> No.53556110

>>53556084
Nickel went up 600% last year specifically because the markets failed. This wil happen with every single metal on the exchange. Jp Morgan was fined for manipulating metals markets.

>> No.53556117

>>53556084
Molybdenum price doubled this month.

>> No.53556121

>>53556110
ah yes.

do you understand that a future contract is itself a receipt for commodities that don't yet exist?

>> No.53556136

>>53556121
Of course. Everybody here understands that. Thats why we are investing in producers of the real stuff. They are still ridicolously undervalued.

>> No.53556146

>>53556136
excellent, thank you.

do you also understand that futures contracts are necessary in industry to lock in prices and hedge costs?

>> No.53556155

>>53554368
NFG.V

>> No.53556160

>>53556146
Of course. Some producers will go bancrupt and only the big ones will stay afloat. Selling below your production cost is not a viable business model. Thats why we hedge with physical metals. /cmmg/ is only 20% of my positions. However the producer squeeze will be glorious.

>> No.53556172

>>53556160
>Selling below your production cost is not a viable business model.
interesting. Why do you believe this?

>> No.53556190

>>53556172
Because you go bancrupt if you are not bailed out by tax dollars. Only financial institutions are bailed out. Commodity producers and the "real" economy is not. However there is a physical breaking point to that philosophy.

>> No.53556191

>>53556084
Like the internal combustion engine?

>> No.53556215

>>53556191
>Like the internal combustion engine?
yes, like that.
>>53556190
how long did amazon lose money? did they get bailed out?

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>>53556215
I'm glad the internal combustion engine is t going anywhere ever and it can be enjoyed by everyone for eons to come

>> No.53556235

>>53556227
I'm glad you're glad

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>>53556215
Amazon was propped up by softbank et al. A better comparison would be Tesla. They got a bailout. However, lets say you have to choose between bailing out Amazon or Mosaic. What would you coose? This is one of my bets.

>> No.53556269

>>53556241
My point with amazon is most companies work to lose money and borrow from private lenders to float along avoiding taxes and growing huge.

Or so I believe. I'm curious why you believe this doesn't happen in mining. Particularly since you guys are constantly giving money to fund companies that lose money.

>> No.53556294

Natgas lol

>> No.53556314

>>53556269
>most companies work to lose money and borrow from private lenders
As i said - i think that is not a viable business model as companies should make profit to expand, raise wages of their employees, pay the shareholders, etc. Borrowing money is possible as long as there is money to borrow. With rising interest rates money just became more valuable and people will start looking where their money flows.

>> No.53556330

>>53556314
>i think that is not a viable business model as companies should make profit to expand, raise wages of their employees, pay the shareholders, etc
all those are expenses that come out before profits though.
they're the reason successful businesses lose money. Right?

>> No.53556356

>>53556330
Well lets stay in mining. Building a copper mine is a risky, risky business. It takes ages to develop that. BUT if no one has the risk appetite the commodity itself will squeeze and there will be no new electric cars or windmills due to extreme costs. You can print money but you can not print copper.

>> No.53556460

>>53556356
>Building a copper mine is a risky, risky business. It takes ages to develop that.
I helped Freeport build one from scratch once, it took 3 years. And that was 2 years over schedule. They've got a couple others sitting around waiting to be built.

anyways thanks for humoring me, I'm just kinda curious if you're making errors, what those errors are. I'd guess in your case it's oversimplification.

>> No.53556481

>>53556460
>oversimplification
I would never give away detailed investment thesis for free online ;)

>> No.53556594

>>53556235
Have ever heard of Weimar Germany?
Rome?
Why did the dinarius become worthless?
Is jack Daniels your only advisor or do you have a stable full of retards helping you deny reality of fiat currency

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Friendly reminder that there many moving parts to all that and recycling is just one of it.

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Friendly reminder that coal bros are heemed

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>>53556739
How can you be heemed? South32 is up 3x from the 2020 low when we told you to buy.

>> No.53556917

>>53554368
kys and lurk moar you fucking faggot

Shame on all you spoonfeeders

>> No.53556967

>>53556117
Kevin bambrough is probably happy for his moly shill then.

>> No.53556981

>>53556121
Watch eb tuckers latest interview where he discusses the absurdity of futures pricing for my stance in the issue.

We don't have an avocados futures market for the price of avocados. The supply of avocados fall and the avocado price rises. This is a normal market. This same thing is happening with commodities and the futures markets sre causing distortions. When you research how little supply is actually kept on the exchanges you can see that something will break, like what happened with nickel last year. You come in here assuming a lot of things. I'd suggest to stick around.

>> No.53556984

>>53556967
Just imagine not investing into platinum producers now with LPPM at historic low inventory and the hydrogen meme war starting.

>> No.53556990

>>53556330
Or not because I don't like your condescending and presumptuous tone.

>> No.53556994

>>53556984
I have ten ounces of platinum and am expecting to cash them out at $20,000 each within the next five years.

>> No.53556999

>>53556981
>avocados
Funny that i am currently positioned in the biggest avocado producer wordwide.

>> No.53557021

>>53556999
Who?

Trips checked.

>> No.53557026

>>53556999
Seems like a good play. You don't have to deal with the fuckery of the futures market. That's one of the reasons I went into uranium at first because there weren't a lot of financial players to fuck with the price.

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>>53557021
They are really, REALLY boring.
But i like boring for a part of my portfolio.

>> No.53557045

>>53557021
>>53557026
Better wait until it drops again below $26. My average is $25

>> No.53557058

>>53556981
>We don't have an avocados futures market for the price of avocados.
you don't, but people that buy and sell avocados do.

You're blissfully unaware of all the business you don't have access to, and you think it's somehow a scam because you're not included.
>>53556990
>I don't like your condescending and presumptuous tone.
I like watching you fuck up and lose money though.

>> No.53557490

>>53554254

>gas comes from the pump, electricity comes from the socket, salt comes from the ocean

>> No.53558014
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53558014

another Snowline from surface BONANZA hit

https://www.juniorminingnetwork.com/junior-miner-news/press-releases/2961-cse/sgd/135600-snowline-gold-intersects-363-5-m-of-1-4-grams-per-tonne-gold-from-surface-including-129-9-m-of-2-0-grams-per-tonne-gold-at-its-valley-discovery-rogue-project-yukon.html

>> No.53558070

>>53558014
Not "bonanza" grades.

>> No.53558170

>>53555968
>WAGMI SALT CHADS

I agree anonsan, the already enormous deposit is wide open and step-outs keep hitting long 96% salt intercepts. Mr. Salt has the experience to make this the biggest and best salt mine in the world all located in the middle of a market that's under served.

>> No.53558240

>>53558070
509 g-m hit, if Rana hit this the stock would double instantly. and you forgot your "renew fag" loser, try bringing a winner to the table instead of your sour grapes fud

>> No.53558569

>>53558240
>Rana
Don't compare the two. SGD is a serious company.
I'm not saying it's a bad hit, it's not what the market wants, i.e., their original grades, not 1 g/t.

>> No.53558586

>>53558240
Is that you @RocketRed?
I see you just got suspended on ceo, so you came here to do your carnival barking.
Fucking kike (((Renneberg)))

>> No.53558592

CHEAPIES INCOMING

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>>53558592
gee I wonder when the comex opened

>> No.53558730

>>53558592
Fomo is biting me in the ass.

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>>53558586
>@RocketRed?
>I see you just got suspended on ceo

if that's true that's the first bit of good news you've contributed here

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>>53541289
Will Bayhorse ever recover? I want my money back.

>> No.53559194
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Lithium brose ... it's over.
Now the msm is pumping it.
https://www-cnbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/01/31/land-grab-for-lithium-is-just-getting-started-with-gm-expert-says.html

>> No.53559640

Natgas is getting absolutely shat on

>> No.53559687
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https://twitter.com/GlobalProTrader/status/1621521819088965632

This retard is taking a victory lap, he called for a pullback since October. Meanwhile, every stock I bought since then is up 50-100%. Yes, spot price did pullback, but your reader didn't take advantage of it.

>> No.53559976

>>53559687
What a faggot
I hope he thinks it's going to be a much larger pullback and gets wrecked when we bounce out of the DCL early next week

>> No.53560048

>>53559640
Surely the United States wishes to maintain its shale oil production. And with maturing geology that means a more gas per barrel of oil, no?

>> No.53560061

bondniggers are ruining everything again

>> No.53560128

>>53543799
Nutrien do a lot of potash mining that way, same style machines but the salt is generally pretty red

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Looks like a huge beat in the jobs report is what crushed gold today. Oh well, still at a pretty decent price here.

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>>53561501
>jobs report
Surely they didn't lie outright like last year when someone accidentally fat fingered another zero onto those same numbers

>> No.53561790

Masivo Silver big buxx to be made!!!!!!!!!!!
New discovery in Nevada, never drilled, top class team. Billionaires involved!!!!
"Based solely on visual observations, significant mineralization was encountered from 72 feet to 140 feet as well as from 160 feet to 189 feet."
Cheap only $6 million mc. Tight share structure. Get in here!!
THIS IS GOING TO DOLLAR LAND!!!!!!!!

>> No.53561997

>>53561790
Lets see 1st hole around 30 metres of hot stuff lets see these grades
zones of up to 2,880 g/t silver, 25.7 g/t gold and 32 per cent copper.
This is going to FLY!!!!!!

>> No.53562068 [DELETED] 

>>53561997
well have the 2 best mining billionaires in your company is a pretty strong vote for management
not many places were private land still holds old high grade pay dirt and never drilled before only in Nevada best place to mine in the world today
Dont MISS OUT :))))))

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>>53561790
>>53561997
>>53562068
thanks just bought 100k

>> No.53562226

>>53562167
well have the 2 best mining billionaires in your company is a pretty strong vote for management
not many places were private land still holds old high grade pay dirt and never drilled before only in Nevada best place to mine in the world today
Dont MISS OUT :))))))

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>>53562226
Can't disagree with that my friend.

>> No.53562382

>>53562323
Why are all these videos of Mexicans always have some ubercucked white knighting over such dog ugly imbred looking prostitutes?

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>>53562382
This are Indians, ser.

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Considering how brutal the smash on PM spot price is, I'm happily surprised by how miner reacted. They hold pretty well.

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>>53562422
Oh damn. I didn't see any brown piles in the streets so it's off pudding

>> No.53563113

>>53557058
No matter how much money I lose at least I'll never be as much of a faggot as you.

>> No.53563163

>>53559687
>>53559976
He got caught with his pants down in the run up to 1969 and now he's acting like a pigeon shitting on the chess board

Lol. He sucks. Not a total idiot but I'd never let him fill me with his golden semen like I would Gary savage

>> No.53563183

>>53561790
I was going to buy them last year but I remember there being a problem with them.

>> No.53563248

>>53563183
Don't fall for the pump and dump. Check the ceo board to see who's shilling it to you.

>> No.53563739

gold and silver miners getting anally raped today, why?

>> No.53564450

>>53563739
Strong jobs numbers -> yields went up.

>> No.53564576

>>53563739
It's a daily cycle correction. Anything else is just noise.

>> No.53565387

>>53563739
Overbought on daily timeframe combined with strong jobs numbers as other have noted. People with cash on the sidelines are buying. I'm buying next week when I get more cash.

>> No.53565803

>>53563739
I bought so it would go down
You're welcome

>> No.53565885

LOL how did you enjoy the end of the week? The epic as fuck cup and handle golden cross Gary Savage said go all in sure worked out as usual huh?

>> No.53565964

>>53565885
Pretty much.
Technical analysis is about as useful as tits on a bull.
And these fags claim to subscribe to 'Austrian Economics."

>> No.53566011

>>53565964
Why is data collected at all you mouth breathing nigger?

>> No.53566236

>>53566011
Data is history. Economics has fuck all to do with history. Fucking nigger.

>> No.53566250

https://www.mining.com/permitting-solutions-for-mining-in-british-columbia-a-priority-says-govt/

Best news i ve seen out of the BC gov in ages! Permit lag times are horrible and need fixing asap.

>> No.53566383

>>53566236
This is perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever read on the internet
Well done
>https://mises.org/library/fundamental-analysis-traditional-austrian-approach-common-stock-selection
For the non knuckle draggers itt the above is about a dozen pages to green as a basic primer for the opposite of this retards point of view

>> No.53566675

>>53566383
lol, nigger switches from TA to FA.
I'll say it again, economics doesn't depend on history (data) . It's apriori, you dumb bitch.

>> No.53566707

>>53566383
>Lost his money listening to gArY and his TA metaphysics

>> No.53566820

>>53566707
I'm up 12% overall
>>53566675
>Dumb faggot doesn't understand the most basic concepts
It's a primer. An introduction. You would need 6 million years to learn how to read and write like any other subhuman of African decent
>Noooooooooooooooooo
>You can't just use data points to make decisions
>Noooooooooooooooooo
>You have to do it the way I say to do it
>Noooooooooooooooooo
Nigger please. Absolutely nobody here asks your opinion on a fucking thing because you are dumb as fuck

>> No.53566872

>>53566820
You fail to understand the difference between economics and the history of economics. I'd suggest you read "Theory and History," but it's probably too far above your grade.

>> No.53566932

>>53566820
>gold went down x percent today
>spy crossed its x day MA
>the jobs report said such and such
That's economic history and demonstrates nothing.
>Man acts.
From this statement, all of economics is derived.
Go to bed now, you fucking poser.

>> No.53567001

>>53566820
Know I know you're the same shithead who would argue with his shadow about how GayHorse was great. You're full of shit, constantly changing the goal posts. Yes, you've been found out.

>> No.53567030

>>53566820
>Austrian economics
>TA
Pick one.

>> No.53567059

Why did gold dump? I guess the recession was cancelled so people are out of the safe haven

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>>53567001
Holy shit nigger!!! Lol you've been found out. I'm the reason these threads even exist. Die to me calling out bhs.
>Poser
Go be anigger somewhere else
>But you have to do it the way I said do it
>Noooooooooooooooooo
Kek.

>> No.53567153

>>53566872
I've read nearly everything mises and rothbard ever published you stupid bitch
I studied under Tom and Floy
You're less than insignificant. Get used to it. Got a feeling you already are

>> No.53567193

>>53567153
>I've read nearly everything
Apparently you didn't comprehend anything.
>Austrian economics
>TA
Pick one.
Nigger.

>> No.53567199

>>53567193
Because something is above your ability to comprehend doesn't make it worthless

>> No.53567205

>>53565885
Everything is happening exactly ad he said it would literally step by step and before other analysts can even call it.

>> No.53567254

>>53567199
I don't comprehend your inanity, but I do think you are worthless.

>> No.53567267

>>53567205
Fucking simpletons I swear. I bet he screams at the weather man on his television

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>>53567001
did you just accuse Lassen of shilling bayhorse?
that's awesome

>> No.53567288

>>53567254
The >million dollar insurance policy the hunting club just took out on me says otherwise

>> No.53567320

>>53567288
that's not a good sign

>> No.53567404

>>53567320
It means they intend to put me over all the other properties silly

>> No.53567428

>>53567404
>they intend to put me over all the other properties
or under them

>> No.53567457

>>53567428
Kek
Noted

>> No.53567662

>>53567205
And what ETA did he give before something significant actually happens? I can garuntee he will push the date back further everytime it doesn't pan out.

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>>53567662
>Significant
This is the preamble to your own goalpost moving every time anyone else is right about anything. C'mon man

>> No.53568114

>>53567662
If you've been reading the thread I've been providing continuous updates and that nigger hasn't been wrong about anything he's said except for some minor frustrations a month or two ago.

>> No.53568126

>>53567662
Other anons have even subscribed as well and they know what I'm talking about and also give updates in the thred.

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>>53568126
>thred.
Report to remedial English immediately or sooner

>> No.53568598

>>53567936
Then here is the definition to prevent goalpost moving: a move that causes smg and crypto crowd to suddenly want to buy in while creating a new millionaire in these threads every week.

>>53568126
Then what is the non goalpost moving ETA? Every week is the final week to get in these days.

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>>53568598
>Hyper specific
Maybe you're in the wrong thread. Just because one or more anons led you to believe precious metals would make you a millionaire overnight while destroying every other asset or investment category that's diametrically opposed to their individual world view doesn't mean everyone trading miners and metals or posting itt believe that
I hope you find whatever it is your looking for anon. Because diligence and persistence are the only things that are rewarded here

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>>53568720
>your
Fucking autocorrect
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic#/media/File%3AImg-Z121706-0001.jpg
I'm phonefagging. So picrel is inescapable and anyone dismissing history is irrelevant and not worth quantifying, analysing, and extrapolating is being disingenuous at best. Otherwise the same pattern of currency debasement wouldn't be seen over and over as empires emerge, waxing and waning like all the others

>> No.53569426

>>53568720
The ball is in your court when you can answer me and everyone else in these threads who probably need a 2x just to break even.

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>>53569426
Fair enough. Let me know when worthless boomer rocks to go zero and Bitcoin is one million dollars like the cryptofurries claim. See how that works?

>> No.53570401

https://www.mining.com/canada-faces-pressure-to-ban-deep-sea-mining/

The Canadian gov is getting a lot of pressure to ban offshore deep sea mining. I dont know if that will actually amount to much as there isnt much in our waters.

>> No.53570408

>>53570401
thats not to say that Canada doesnt have a lot of oil and gas off shore though. This is meant to stop nodule and placer mining off shore.

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>https://www.gordonbrothers.com/insight/energy-frac-sand/
From the article
>Moving frac sand from mines to transload facilities near oil and gas plays is the most significant expense of production and accounts for upwards of 75% of the final cost for some producers, or about $70 to $90 per ton shipped. Mines that lack direct access to a railroad spur are forced to truck the sand to rail yards where it can be loaded onto railcars, so it is advantageous for frac sand mines to have a railroad spur on site to keep costs down.

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>>53567272
>accuse Lassen of shilling bayhorse?
We all know you are the bayhorse shill. It was you all the time.

>> No.53570722

>>53558933
If you actually want your money back, sell all your shares and put them into crypto. There will be another crypto bullrun and crash before any of the shit ITT takes off. Bayhorse in particular won't recover in Graeme's lifetime, and he probably wants it that way so that he can continue pounding Thai femboys on your dime. I don't know how all the people on BHS's CEO page haven't roped, I sold over a year ago and sometimes go back on CEO once every few months and the same fucks are still there posting about bagholding. What a life.

>> No.53570736

where can I buy commodities?
robinhood doesn't sell them.
sorry I only know how to trade on pancakeswap and half translated asian futures exchanges

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Hmm

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Tin bros HEEEMED

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>>53567001
>>53567030
>>53567193
Nigger you might be legit retarded. Like a full blown downy or something.

I'd assume you were trolling as nobody can lack pattern recognition THIS hard, but there's too many posts and too much rage. I'm genuinely astounded by how dumb your posts are.

>> No.53571687

>>53568407
You're a fag nigger and you have aids. You should have been hit as a child and beat up in high-school

>> No.53571730

>>53571685
He's actually right, there's no evidence TA works at all.
>nobody can lack pattern recognition THIS hard,
TA is often described as faulty pattern recognition, i.e. apophenia. A common problem among schizos where they see patterns that aren't there or don't matter.

But even if TA is no better than throwing darts at a board or letting your goldfish pick your stocks, it's also no worse. It's as good or bad a method as any to pick stocks and try to time the market.

>> No.53571838

>>53571685
The anon mentions the actual problem with TA,
It's reliant on the Monte Carlo fallacy.
Specifically, future price movement has nothing to do with past price movement.

the only reason this MIGHT work is if other investors are also using the Monte Carlo fallacy to invest, and thus affecting markets.
But I suspect most of the trading volume is being produced by computers, which presumably are not programmed to invest based on the Monte Carlo fallacy, so there's no real reason to expect TA to work. It's basically just astrology for stocks. If it actually worked, everyone would get rich using it and poor people wouldn't exist.

>> No.53571871

>>53571730
>>53571838
You're right Bob, no one has ever made more money from TA than they would through coin flips or roulette wheels and there is no skill curve to applying it. Time to pack up the thread and go home lads. I was getting sick of Lassen's constant horse shilling anyway

>> No.53571876

>>53571838
>It's basically just astrology for stocks.
Stop trying to bait me Bob, you're drunk and I'm hungover
>If it actually worked, everyone would get rich using it and poor people wouldn't exist.
Only if it was easy

>> No.53571898

>>53571876
>you're drunk and I'm hungover
I'm quite sober.

The mistake the anon made was assuming that economics exist apriori. This would mean markets are rational and amenable to rules of prediction.

this of course is also false. The reason TA doesn't work and simply believing in austrian economics doesn't allow you to forecast markets is that price movements are basically brownian without even the benefits of ergodic limits.

very simply, if either of you were right, investing wouldn't exist because the price of the item could be calculated at any point in the future.

>> No.53571910

>>53571871
>no one has ever made more money from TA than they would through coin flips or roulette wheels and there is no skill curve to applying it.
the secret to success with TA is not skill
It's simply wealth
if you have enough of a cushion to survive losses, you will eventually see gains. Because in general stocks go up in value over time. So your investments should as well, if you can survive the mistakes you inevitably make.

>> No.53571955

>>53571871
>Time to pack up the thread and go home lads.
the statistical point you're missing here is the same one the "dumb" anon brought up.

in fact TA has nothing to do with your gains or losses, so you can get rich with or without it. Of course if you get rich using TA you're going to think it was BECAUSE of TA, but at that point, who cares. Right?

The same is true of /cmmg/'s entire investment thesis. You guys could be completely wrong and still get rich anyways. Because it's a random walk. Nothing you guys are doing improves your odds of success, but nothing you're doing lowers your odds either.

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>>53571955
>It's all le random. Get a real job!
Checked but sorry Bob I'm not biting anything but the 8-egg omelette I just made

>I'm quite sober
>and anudda thing
I don't believe you

>> No.53572493

>>53570736
You buy stocks of the companies that produce commodities, silly.

>> No.53572621

Bob is right
The only people making money from TA are the ones selling their courses

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>>53541289
I'm putting all my money into champagne

>> No.53572954

>>53569544
Funny how you refuse to give any time table because you know I am right. Literally all you have to do is say a month this year or sepcify its ANOTHER year away minimum.

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>>53570722
Are you not tempted to come back in and help Mr. G? We appear to only have buyers at .029 cents

My cheeks will clap from riding this pony to .15+ cents even if i am supporting a boy diddling heroin addict i will enjoy the spill over from his over filled glutinous cup.

Also Rebecca needs a good beating and I suspect she is sheb heeb

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>>53573550
Galleon is under the radar, over 1.5M oz, only 10% of property explored, production starting on zone 9 as soon as 4th Q this year. They can do well if gold price stays high.

>> No.53574021

>>53571730
I've literally watched TA predict patterns months into the future to an exact line. I have charts all the time where I plot out a trend and I will save it and go back three months later and it did exactly what I said. I called chainlink at the exact top and still have that chart saved on my computer.

It's kind of like God and the devil. I say the world is run by satanic pedophiles and you say I can't prove the devil exists. Well I can prove that the people that run the world believe that the devil exists.


The reason TA works is because computers and algorithms and mass psychology believes it exists and behave accordingly. Then you take into account things like Bollinger bands, volume related moving averages and rsi and those things add statistical data driven backing thus giving it more predictive success.

You can't sit there and talk shit about something you've never learned or tried. You don't want to believe it works so you justify in your head that it doesn't because you're not open to wccepting new ideas.

Nobody is saying it works 100% of the time. I'd say it works about 80% of the time.

I don't ever want to hear this shit about it being chicken bone reading ever again. I've finally given the argument that this post deserved after years of seeing it pop over and over. I contributed my time to give a solid answer and I'm not going to do it ever again.

At this point if you shit on it it's because you don't know anything about it and don't want to learn. Not that there's anything wrong with that but you can't dismiss something you know nothing about. I literally watch TA get proven every single day.

>> No.53574030
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WSS bros not feeling so good

>> No.53574043

>>53571910
True but not for every case. A poor person can hold through volatility or stack silver just like anyone rich person. They just don't want to or aren't intelligent enough.

>> No.53574071

>>53573995
It looks like a good buy not gonna lie

>> No.53574091

>>53574030
He's a womanly faggot who got liposuction and bleached his teeth as soon as he got semi famous

>> No.53574264

>>53574030
uh oh, no ima feeling even worse
https://www.thepickaxe.xyz/single-post/jim-lewis-fried

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>>53572954
Same goes for your claim. See how easy this is?
Let me know when boomer rocks will go to zero and cryptofurries are millionaires with a single Bitcoin. And I mean I wanna know to the day.
I'll wait
>>53571955
>>53571898
>very simply, if either of you were right, investing wouldn't exist because the price of the item could be calculated at any point in the future.
If only it didn't have "human action" to point towards when a particular stock is "oversold" or otherwise then this statement would have merit
Bandwagons exist and I suggest you jump on the bayhorse bandwagon before you get left behind lad
>>53571687
How did you know I have aids?

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>>53571910
>It's simply wealth
Ah yes, the final refuge of baiting Bob.

>> No.53574754

What's an undervalued PM company? (Don't say all of them you cock) it looks like GOLD is but I can't be sure with their chicanery.

>> No.53574840

Cmmg I have a confession to make

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I was looking at oil field water services last night. Gonna compile a list of sub billion dollar MCs for you guys to peruse. Idk if I like water as much as sand tho. Found a couple of good ideas theyre moving to like mobile mining. Instead of building a mine they just drive into the desert with everything on rigs and set up camp. Less logistics is the only way to lower the overhead since logistics are the meat and taters of sand mining
Also, I thought take-or-pay contract were in their twilight but some companies still have them as the bulk of their revenue stream. Seems as tho mobile mining and take-or-pay contracts may be poised to play king of the hill as the obligations of the contract arent as valuable as the savings that mobile mining logistics provide, in accordance with each oil plays material demands
You fellas have a lovely day. My bobcat has a catastrophic hydraulic leak so I'm going to wrench in the rain to get it back indoors for maintenance

>> No.53574850

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/yukon-prospecting-plan-approval-is-quashed-by-first-nation-court-victory-1.6259555

someone forgot to consult the local band, expensive mistake.

>> No.53574883

>>53574840
>Id
>SHH
We know you're gay already anon. We all are. It's ok

>> No.53574885

>>53574264
We started Wallstreet silver. We literally started the movement and one of our members made rhe original post that creates the movement. All of those niggers piled on it and became what we started. We didn't care. We just wanted the Luls.

>> No.53574896

>>53574411
>how do you know I have aids

Because i gave it to you

>> No.53574901

>>53574754
Galleon gold as per a few posts above. Abra silver. Gogold. Salt. Trillion energy.

>> No.53574913

>>53574883
I bought 4k’s worth of crypto meme coins at the bottom and I’m making profits. I feel like I’ve violated the cmmg crowd

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>>53574913
Nothing wrong with gambling desu. But if gambling is all you do then that's a problem even if you're winning. Take the money and buy gold and silver before it rigs.
What would be your value on exit right now? Maybe take back you initial entry plus profits and let the rest ride

>> No.53575311

>>53574021
>The reason TA works is because computers and algorithms and mass psychology believes it exists and behave accordingly
>>53574411
>Bandwagons exist
Yes, I already said if enough investors believe in it, it could work.

I mentioned the main reason that doesn't happen... most volume is produced by algorithms that aren't using TA

you guys stated the other reason it doesn't work, "skill." What critics of TA call apophenia.
Not everyone is using the same rules or applying them to the same timeframes. So you don't really have a bandwagon affect even if millions of investors are all following supposedly similar rules.

>> No.53575383

>>53574548
>Ah yes, the final refuge of baiting Bob.
I could have instead said percentage of holdings invested.

If you have $1000 to invest and only bet $10 total on TA while holding the remaining $990 as a buffer against loss, you should eventually see positive returns simply because stocks tend to go up.

If you don't have that buffer, you will likely be wiped out by your inevitable losses using TA or any other method of stock picking and timing.

I chose to shorten this by saying "wealth," but what I really mean not investing most of your money.

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>>53575311
Good ideas and well laid plans work without investor sentiment.
Do you argue with the weatherman on TV because you don't believe in meteorology? Are chaotic forces not able to be predicted with any degree of accuracy or are forecasts for rain solely dependant on getting lucky?
Again I ask you why does anyone collect data or even quantify anything at all, if not to analyze that data? Why even use numbers, weights or measures in any form if scrutiny of them is merely soothsaying and tarot card reading anyway?

*Water cooler Monday morning meeting*
>What did the jobs report say?
>Well Bob said it doesn't matter anyway since that data can't be correlated with any other data points. He told me only poor people have jobs so Im quitting after lunch
>Right on, let's all marry a van Ness heiress and pick on poorfags in /cmmg/
>Haha. Checkm8 bigots

>> No.53575493

>>53575454
Again, if TA worked even 0.05% more often than random chance everyone would do it and poor people wouldn't exist.

someday statisticians will probably work out models that predict market movements, but it hasn't happened yet, and when they do it won't be people doing the prediction.

>> No.53575523

>>53575493
How do patterns even exist?

>> No.53575537

>>53575523
probably one of my favorite questions ever.

but not relevant here. What matters here is if the patterns are strictly defined and meaningful. And in both cases the answer appears to be no.

where you see a pattern I might not. Where I see a pattern you might not. And both patterns may mean nothing.

>> No.53575551

>>53574913
Just be aware that it's going to make another leg down over the next month or two.

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>>53575523
Forgot pic. Reality exists. And often times it is quantifiable. Because you don't recognize certain patterns doesn't mean they don't exist. You call anything you don't recognize schizophrenia. Ok. I'm schizophrenic according to you, and only you. Are you starting to see a pattern yet?

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>>53575551
You'll just be accidentally right, like Bob said. He's always right, just ask him. Look at his track record of picks and you'll see a pattern. Oh, wait...

>> No.53575602

>>53575565
>Reality exists. And often times it is quantifiable.
yes, but if everyone quantifying it uses different scope and resolution you won't have any standard behavior from the quantification.

>You call anything you don't recognize schizophrenia.
no, I merely mention that the tendency to see patterns everywhere including places where they don't matter is a symptom of schizophrenia. It is not the only symptom, and it is not confined to schizophrenia.

>> No.53575614

>>53573995
I found the average mining width in their PEA and it's only 5.7m, with a grade that low that isn't very good. Especially because the ore is so spread out which requires more development. I think they made a mistake going for a PEA on all that very marginal ore. Now they want to do a bulk sample of the higher grade shoot, but they will only be mining a fraction of this high value ore. Instead they should have gone for a study on a small project mining this high grade ore, as they have toll mills in the area. They could have probably done 150-200koz high margin ounces, netting perhaps $100M. They could have also looked at some high margin OP ounces.

>> No.53575632

>>53575592
>Look at his track record of picks and you'll see a pattern. Oh, wait...
That pattern is clear

I have neither lost money nor made money picking stocks. Because I don't pick stocks. I tend to believe that old adage, only a fool picks their own stocks or tries to time the market.

>> No.53575633

>>53575493

>if it worked five percent more

It does work though. Countless examples.

Example. If a chart is overbought on rsi and underneath a major resistance you would know not to buy it because probabilities indicate there's only a small chance of it going higher. Meanwhile every TV station is talking "buy the thing" and hordes of morons are buying the thing.

Therefore you would not lose money and others would. Not only that but you could theoretically short it and make money while others lose money.

Don't understand why that concept is so hard to understand. The averages and rsis are based on data. There based on cumulative time based statistics. Don't understand how that concept can't be given any merit.

>> No.53575651

>>53575493
>Again, if TA worked even 0.05% more often than random chance everyone would do it and poor people wouldn't exist.
Come on bob I love you but this argument is absolutely retarded and could be used to "debunk" anything. You're making the massive assumption that everyone is actually capable of doing it. Something can have a 100% effectiveness rate if done correctly but if it's fucking difficult to do correctly you're going to have a lot of people doing it poorly and a lot of people who don't bother, and this results in poor people existing. The same is true of any "guaranteed" way to make money

TA is nowhere near 100% accurate as others have already said and there are a hell of a lot of people who do it do it fucking terribly, way more than do it well, which makes ignorant people like yourself go "oh it's random because most people don't make money" instead of saying "oh it's difficult because most people suck at it." Give your head a shake man.

>>53575537
>where you see a pattern I might not
>everything is subjective and equally valid
If one of us can consistently see patterns that continue to play out and the other can't, one is better at pattern recognition than the other, no matter how subjective or valid the lesser thinks those patterns are.

>>53575602
>the tendency to see patterns everywhere including places where they don't matter is a symptom of schizophrenia
and the inability to see patterns at all or take advantage of them means someone is double digit IQ

>> No.53575665

>>53575633
>Don't understand why that concept is so hard to understand.
People who doubt it don't generally fail to understand it. In fact they usually understand it better than you do.
>The averages and rsis are based on data. There based on cumulative time based statistics. Don't understand how that concept can't be given any merit.
If the future behavior is not dependent on the past then the past won't matter.

The past apparently does not matter to future behavior, so future behavior is apparently not dependent on the past.

>> No.53575677

>>53575602
Bob drives home from work every day at the same time
Starts noticing the same car meeting him head on at the same place in the road every day at the same time
Sees tracks in the drive coming and going that don't match any of the family cars
Tracks same in and out every day
>It can't be someone else fucking my wife while I'm at work because we haven't had sex in 11 years
Drives to work the next day

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New ID cool
I said I wouldn't bite but you got me Bob well done, and my fucking head still hurts

>> No.53575685

>>53575592
TA makes a significant portion of everything I do but it's only part of the picture. Thinfs like sentiment, fundamentals, narrative all come into play. I would say TA comprises about 70% of the picture and everything else comes in after that. The fact that people like Ira epstein can trade charts without even knowing what is being traded is proof that ta has merit.

For example, in my post you're replying to. I'm telling this anon that crypto is likely to make another move down based on the fact that we are in a bear market, we are having a bear market rally, nothing fundamentally has changed and the daily chart is bullish while the weekly chart is bearish. That and other factors my brain can't put into words all give the picture that crypto is likely to have its little rally but then move downward.

Ta makes a significant portion of my analysis and then everything else comes in on top of that. It's just a tool of many.

>> No.53575693

>>53575614
Meanwhile snowline gold has 1gpt and the market cums their pants over it.

>> No.53575727

>>53575651
>If one of us can consistently see patterns that continue to play out and the other can't, one is better at pattern recognition than the other
yes, if your pattern recognition pays off over time then you are a god and your point is proven. You've had a couple years now though, I kinda doubt you're a god.
> it's fucking difficult to do correctly
even people who do it well aren't getting rich off it.
>the inability to see patterns at all or take advantage of them means someone is double digit IQ
there is a very thin line between genius and insane, and you're talking about it.

>> No.53575732

>>53575665
>people who doubt it
I doubt that most people who doubt it have any understanding of it. Most of those people have no idea what a moving average even is.

>> No.53575735

TA fags could prove their point by posting backtesting results.

>> No.53575746

>>53575732
I'm assuming most people that doubt it are social scientists and statisticians.

the average person has never heard of it and wouldn't understand it if they did.

>> No.53575777

>>53575735
I'll make an effort to post more charts but almost every single chart I do TA on does exactly what the pattern says its going to.

For example look at gold right now and then pull up "bearish rising wedge".


The blackpill you're trying to avoid with your cognitive dismissal is the fact that nothing matters and entire societies are built on memelines and triangles on a chart. That's literally how the world functions. It's computers trading and traders trading on lines and charts and that impacts almost every single aspect of your life. That's where oil prices come from and whether you get laid off at your job or not and then you take into account that not even the real thing is being traded but an electronic or paper derivative of it and that's the thing you're mind is trying to avoid. Nothing matters. It's literally computers trading on thing that are not even real and its based on magic meme lines and triangle patterns.

>> No.53575801

>>53573995
how much debt ? Pretty interesting if they can finance their exploration with cashflow and no dillution anymore

>> No.53575809

>>53575746
>statisticians and social scientists.


Again I doubt it because I've had this argument many times over the years and not once have I been presented with an argument against the statistics of it or the science of it and not only that but not once has someone ever used or discussed a particular method of ta. Every time it's always somebody just saying "it doesn't work" and then that's all they have to offer as an argument.

>> No.53575838

>>53575809
Much like your perceived success with TA, that's probably because you're selectively ignoring results you don't like.

I've stated 2 statistical, scientific complaints.
1. apophenia, the patterns don't matter or don't exist.
2. undefined. The patterns are subjectively applied and thus inconsistent.

and I've added
3. results. It doesn't actually produce measurable results.

>> No.53575853

>>53575838
I'm not claiming any success with TA lol. I'm not claiming any success with stocks or trading or anything. LOL.

>> No.53575864

>>53575838
>Measurable
Why would measuring be helpful if patterns are fake and gay?

>> No.53575865

>>53575853
>I'm not claiming any success with TA lol.
>>53575777
>every single chart I do TA on does exactly what the pattern says its going to.

>> No.53575878

>>53575864
>Why would measuring be helpful if patterns are fake and gay?
the patterns aren't fake and gay if they produce real results.

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>>53575864
New id I guess cuz my phone died while I was in the shower.

>> No.53575894

>>53575878
Like profits and losses?

>> No.53575904

>>53575865
I'm not claiming financial success with TA.

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>>53575727
>yes, if your pattern recognition pays off over time then you are a god and your point is proven. You've had a couple years now though, I kinda doubt you're a god.
We can see these patterns work in real time and can apply them retroactively with a high enough success rate to mean it simply can't be effectively random.
If I can put a jigsaw puzzle together using patterns faster than randomly mashing pieces together it doesn't make me a god, just makes me not a retard. If succeeding more than 50% of the time at PR makes someone a deity then you have low standards for godhood
>even people who do it well aren't getting rich off it.
Now we've went from "it doesn't work" to "it doesn't work as well as I've just decided it should"
>there is a very thin line between genius and insane, and you're talking about it.
If I didn't have schizophrenia before this conversation I probably do now

>> No.53575939

>>53575894
yes. Profits and losses measurably different from not using TA, or just using random methods.
>>53575904
>I'm not claiming financial success with TA.
it's the same thing. If you can predict price movements accurately even 51% of the time you could be a billionaire in a couple weeks.

>> No.53575954

>>53575924
>Now we've went from "it doesn't work" to "it doesn't work as well as I've just decided it should"
if it worked at all, the practitioners would get insanely rich, fast.

>> No.53575968

>>53575693
There's a huge cost difference between mining open pit and underground. Snowline also have more than 1 g/t and probably low strip ratio and large size so it's an extremely attractive open pit project. The only downside is that it is very far from civilization, not sure how much it is going to cost to build this thing and if they will have to do diesel power. If this project was near a decent sized city, market cap would probably be multiples of what it is now.

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>>53575939
I bought the bottom on sand using ta that red and bluesmonke did for me. So which of us is schizophrenic? Or was I also accidentally right

>> No.53576012

>>53575985
>So which of us is schizophrenic?
all 4 of us as far as I can tell
>Or was I also accidentally right
also possible.

the sun shines on a dog's ass some days. That's all I'm saying. I don't care if you guys use TA. I don't think it's going to hurt your profits any. I just doubt it helps them either.

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>>53575985
ALL cmmg posters are schizophrenic according to non cmmg posters. But who's going to look schizophrenic when we're on our homesteads with silver and gold bought with uranium money when the NWO comes with the mark of the beast?

My gun talks to me.

>> No.53576050

>>53576033
did you guys see she came out in favor of nuclear?

>> No.53576078

>>53575968
the more remote the project, the less likely its going to be built. Look at KSM for example in BCs Golden Triangle. Its taken almost 30 years to get that project off the ground. Snowline's project would need major road access, power infrastructure, and thats going to cost a lot out there. The good thing is that the Yukon government loves these sorts of projects, so it could get all sorts of help.

>> No.53576084

>>53576050
I didn't but nice roll dude.
>>53576033
Reroll cuz ew

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>>53576050
No but that's pretty hilarious if she did. I bet she'll get scandalled and discredited soon if she's breaking the conditioning.
also nice punch

>>53576033
Rolling

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>>53576084
>>53576124
They toned her quote down.
I think she said something like "it would be idiotic to shut off (german) nuclear plants now."

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>>53576012
>all 4 of us as far as I can tell
I lol'd
>don't care if you guys use TA
Bullshit. It's a third of your posts... calling anons who pour hours and hours into data collection and analytics nutjobs and hacks or shills (kek)
When you aren't trolling you're setting up a troll for later. Your only value here itt is to keep us grounded by being the contrarians contrarian.
If TA is for usefully idiots then that makes you a useless genius. Guess which one has moar value to /cmmg/
>>53576050
Bearish!!!

>> No.53576214

>>53576078
Yeah I don't know much about that area, but it seems like there are mountains and it's hundreds of kilometers from civilization it seems, so that is going to be expensive. I wonder if it's possible to just fly everything in instead and use diesel. Building a looong road and power lines could cost many hundreds of millions.

>> No.53576234

>>53575614
kek, once again renew fag knows better than a CEO who has already built a mine in the Timmins camp

>> No.53576247

>>53576158
>It's a third of your posts
I normally ignore it. I just jumped in because that one anon gets called stupid for doubting it all the time.

I do think that anon is an idiot, but not for doubting TA.

>> No.53576278

>>53576234
Clearly the market agrees with me, it's valued at US$10M for 1.5M ounces in pretty much the best location you could ask for. If these were low cost ounces, the valuation would be an order of magnitude higher.

>> No.53576287

>>53576214
yes you can fly in some gear, KSM for example built all their camp construction equipment piece by piece by heavy lift helicopter last year. However thats extremely expensive, they only did that as they were stuck with some issues with road construction. You need road access for major mines like this, you cant operate without them. If you know mining, miners will put a road up anything with enough switchbacks. Look up the Grasberg mine in Indonesia for example.

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>>53575801
no debt, but maybe only have around C$1-2M now, will need $ to start

https://galleongold.com/news/galleon-gold-outlines-development-plans-for-2023/

>> No.53576311

>>53576247
I don't call anyone stupid for any method of data collection or analytics because patterns and correlations exist. As an Austrian myself, I was skeptical until I started listening to the interviews and reading the schizo postings from our TA posters and saw the patterns myself. Yes they are a rough draft and not always correct, but that doesn't warrant writing it off totally. I never once berated anyone for their 'tism in this regard because I simply don't know. It's a learning process for me. I like the pain. It's a good teacher

>> No.53576316

>>53576287
Thats definitely why it is so cheap then because this project is amazing. But it's going to be EXPENSIVE to build that road and the power lines.

>> No.53576329

>>53576033
>all cmmg posters are schizo to outsiders

When in reality we're probably the most rational and mentally healthy individuals on the web. At least that's how I see myself anyways.

>> No.53576337

>>53576311
>I never once berated anyone for their 'tism in this regard because I simply don't know.
I never have before either because while I don't think it works I could be wrong,
and even if it doesn't work it's not hurting any.

worst case scenario it doesn't work and you've spent some time researching a stock you plan on investing in, which seems like a good idea no matter what the price does in future.

>> No.53576340

>>53576158
>When you aren't trolling you're setting up a troll for later

Top kek.

>> No.53576345

>>53576329
yeah, the main symptom of schizophrenia isn't just that your mind is broken, but also that you don't realize it. Schizos think they're perfectly rational and usually get mad if you say they're thinking wrong.

>> No.53576349

>>53576329
I agree dude I'm just messing around. Now get back in my mind other me.

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>>53576151
Man she looks so different in that pic. She's probably already been offed and replaced by a double

>> No.53576452

>>53576329
Now anon you don't really think the posters on this board who think crypto will make them generational wealth overnight are irrational, do you?

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>>53576401
she's still an adorable potato

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>>53576345
I know that at times I have been schizo and experienced things that people would call schizo. I'm definitely not normal and have experienced many things in life that I could write paragraphs and paragraphs about such as my dad dying when I was 25, when I got cheated on and divorced at age 23, when I was in a brain injury hospital for two years, when I was an mma fighter, when I was a bouncer in a college bar and fucked so many girls you dudes couldn't even imagine, to when I was so broke to where I couldn't afford toothpaste to where I had a net worth one a million dollars at age 27 to flying down the highway on a Harley motorcycle at 120 mphs to squatting 400 pounds from being so ugly I asked a girl out on a date once and she said "fuck no" to my face to being attractive and pulling girls with ease to almost dying several times in my life more than I can count. I have lived my life as a loner that nobody cared about and people hated with animosity as an outcast to becoming a local celebrity in my town ( I can't go anywhere without being recognized and approached)


My mind has experienced many things on all extremes of the spectrum. I am not saying i am not crazy. I am just saying I'm mentally healthy. I've experienced all that shit and healed. That's the definition of healthy. Just because you break your arm doesn't mean you're dysfunctional and if anything it means you're stronger because you healed from a broken arm.

We're all here because we don't follow the herd and because we recognize that we have gotten too for beyond the natural order of life. The world's all out of whack. Commodities are resources and some of them are scare. We live in a fake artifical world where things are run on technology and slave labor and bloated infinite magic money budgets.

We're here because we are realistic, think outside the box and think for ourselves.

I'd say that's mentally healthy, not schizo and I'd take a person like that over a thousand normies any day.

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>>53574030
>https://www.thepickaxe.xyz/single-post/jim-lewis-fried
>>53574264
That was quite the write-up

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>>53574030
>>53574264
GV warned about these faggot. I locked their twitter account when they started spamming meme and talking about everything but Silver.

That's why banker laugh, they know greedy fucker will always backstab anyone trying to corner the sector.

>> No.53576653

>>53576278
Galleon's CEO just said recently he thinks the share price in a year will be around C$1.40, it's possible. They haven't done a great job of getting the story out, but nobody cares much about any gold explorers/developers right now.

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>>53576485
>we recognize that we have gotten too for beyond the natural order of life
Yup
Entropy cannot be contained or ignored indefinitely. Everything has a carrying capacity, yielding emergent properties, creating bifurcations, bringing order naturally so entropy can distribute energies more efficiently via dissipative structures.

>> No.53576749

>>53574885
>>53574030
>>53576563

Honestly pretty funny watching this whole arc. Spammed for lulz up until feb 1st 2021, had popcorn since.


DMEniggerbug main protaganist, heckled by us and getting screwed by boomer faggots.

Ivan bald headed car salesman yoinked the subreddit. Pretty sure he originated from reddit not here.

Arcadia economics chris marcus tweaking and freezing in houston streets yelling at an empty jpm parking lot.

Jim stole DME niggerbugs twitter by leveraging the old jannies to ban his account. Then wanted to make a career out of shitposting and got greedy posting tons of mining company ads.

His downfall now is perfect kek. Jews couldnt write a script this good.

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>>53576485
Dangerously based

I'm honestly often surprised by how normie see my action (like always investing 50-60% of my monthly paycheck). I always think it's the norm but reality is different. DCAing for 2.5 years during a correction isn't normal too. We're outside the box, that's why we'll make it and drink normie tears when they're ruined.

>> No.53576803

>>53576758
You're gonna make it.

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For real I have like 20k cash sitting there and don't know what to do with it. What should I put it into? I'm heavy into certain unrelated stocks and uranium. Other than that just a bit of PMs, some random gambling stuff and Russian stocks which are permafrozen. Idk what I need more of. WPM? GOLD? physical? What would you guys look into if you were me?

>> No.53576837

>>53576749
Kek, I remember that poor negro posting here a few years ago, maybe it was on /pmg/, and he would always be greeted by stuff like

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>> No.53576902

>>53576813
Start a business. Create a revenue stream. Otherwise park it in PMs. Pay more attention to ratios than prices
My two cents

>> No.53576955

>>53576653
They have been valued very low for a long time, I agree that the market isn't perfect, but this project is straightforward and in an optimal location. People know about it, it's just very marginal, that's why it's cheap. But they could have done a smaller high grade project that would have made easy money. Usually you want at least 1Moz to build a mine, but these guys have all the infrastructure and other mills already in place. So they are able to just mine that juicy ore with little startup cost.
Sure it could rocket higher if gold rallied hard, the ounces are there and if the gold price is high enough you can make money. But I don't trust mgmt, they are playing this wrong.
They built I think it is the black fox mine, now owned by mcewen, I don't think they are making any money with it, it's too high cost. Was it ever profitable or the same marginal story like this new deposit?

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>>53576902
I WILL start a business. I will report back one day about it.

>> No.53577243

>Error: You must wait longer before posting a new thread.

wtf. I'm making a new one anyway guys, when they let me.

>> No.53577260

>>53577257
>>53577257