/biz/ - Business & Finance

Ahhh! After 350+ posts I'm free!
It's time to shitpost with a new ID!

I filed my taxes to the IRS and am now waiting on my refund like a good little citizen.

I'm fucked. It's never going back down.

>>53553794
FRIST

>futures

>>53553816
I'm getting 3k on top of my normal refund for awhile

Tesla to 193 tomorrow.

>everyone is still bearish!
meanwhile call buying just surpassed the Jan 2021 call buying peak

>>53553833
uhh that's not how it works anon

>>53553812
I switch between larping as a delusional permabear and permabull every thread. Playing the bobo is a more fun role, it gets way more seething replies.

>>53553836
retail is dying to go long for easy money again. truly "return to normal" in the matter of 3 days

>Disney is making a TCG

How many bobos capitulated today?

this thread is basically irrelevent because investing has been solved, its DCA into TQQQ and thats it

theres no downside, its simple the best in every way. honestly at some point the retail public should be banned from doing anything else, for their safety

>>53553860
wtf its real

>>53553860
>am i a joke to you?

>>53553867
probably an incredibly amount. There were a lot in this thread fucking doubling down though earlier.

>>53553816
feels good

I hope you all sold. It was pretty obvious.

>>53553849
oh, yea? Enlighten me

>>53553859
All it took was JPow speech + META mega poomp to get bulls euphoric again. Fading this will be the easy money.

I remain bearish on BABA, ROST, and BBW.

>>53553883
Everyone should listen to this anon as hard sd possible.

>>53553816
good. did you pay your rent too ?

>>53553867
...not enough!

>>53553850
This, bipolar market posting to spread disinformation and tank the anons who take it too seriously. Seething bankrupted niggers make me smile

>>53553896
I'm actually bullish on baba at last seeing as it's finally broken the downward channel. I'm bearish on US tech overall.

>>53553836
Was that today?

>>53553894
it offsets 3k of taxable income, you don't simply get
>3k on top of my normal refund

>>53553887
Goofy shit

>>53553836
Ya mega dump is coming, my mom talked to me about how good her stocks have been doing recently. That's my sell signal

>>53553887
With Disney presumably taking the ESG market for card games does this mean HAS can unban the good stuff again?

given market uncertainty, layoffs, 8%+ CPI (stagflation possible), etc. why aren't we all going long on Heinz, McDonald's, Walmart, and META?

>>53553908
you are literally making people eat rice and beans you piece of shit i lost everything trusting you.

>>53553890
>>53553887
>"The Walt Disney Company will mark its 100th anniversary in 2023, timed to its founding by Walt Disney and Roy O. Disney on October 16, 1923."
there will be a dead virgin or two by EOY

>>53553922
oh, l guess I am a retard

>>53553942
I don't see how meta can go anywhere, especially with their recent moves, in that kind of environment.
Heinz, mcd, walmart, costco are all good choices if you believe in a depression thesis, but not particularly if your thesis is stagflation.

>>53553916
yes
>>53553911
I'm not permanently bearish for what it's worth. I just knew $120 wasn't going to hold and am riding it down to near $100. I'm just skeptical of the ADR structure and China overall.

i have no reason to be bullish on asana but i am

>>53553954
its ok anon, i made that mistake myself early on
at least you can admit it and not double down and argue the point like most retards in this general

>>53553817
Kek you shorted?

>>53553942
Because KHC is over-leveraged (unless you meant to stockpile physical ketchup to avoid starvation), MCD/WMT will lose any profits to wage increases, and META is still a giant meme that one day of mumu euphoria can't fundamentally change

Fucking kek, I thought this was a meme. One of my employees came in with her old work shirt. I had to take a pic. What company thinks they can get away with this cringe shit?

>>53553887
If they were smart they'd make unique NFT QR codes for each card, then 20 years from now autistic Disney retards can be trading these stupid things as collectibles online like digital beenie babies. The problem with the NFT craze was they were dumb prices for nothing, have a physical and digital product for a RESONABLE price and kids will eat it up

>>53553957
I just see people turning to social media and cheap streaming services if they don't have disposable income at levels they're used to, so META is an obvious winner in both depression and stagflation
McD, Heinz, Walmart should be cheaper than anything else in a depression or stagflation
I see people's wallets hurting and cheap/"free" services thriving

>>53553976
>MCD/WMT will lose any profits to wage increases
Good thing population-dense states such as Texas only pay the federal minimum wage

>>53553978
Yours apparently

>>53553959
>yes
They all bought calls today? That cant be right

>median income 30k
>even boomers who worked for 30 years as a couple making like 200k from both incomes combined at 60
>everyone on /biz/ is 25 and making 500k because they got a 4.0 in their BA of Math degree
And y'all wonder why I discount your "advice".

>>53553945
>Oooh check out my poomp anon
Me to your broke malnourished portfolio

>>53553978
damn your employee looks like a tight piece of ass. i bet you she'd do a little extra for a bonus if you know what i mean. women love a man with authority.

>>53553950
you mean a sacrifice?
now i know why bobby iger came back, he wants to do the deed

I was a short but i understand my mistake now. Please forgive me lord

>>53553959
Yeah, I'm targeting a buy-in price in the 90-100 range myself. It's obvious the local pump wasn't going to go further. But I'm looking at the longer-term picture and I'm predicting a slow recovery over time starting about now.
I don't have any other chinese exposure so I'm not worried about that. I'm also not worried about the ADR structure by design. If anything, this is really an issue only if you think xi will want to nuke baba after he disappear'd jack ma as baba clearly didn't get his approval since. If that happens then yes, the ADR structure means you're fucked. I think it's worth the gamble in light of amazon becoming a clone of BABA and my discovery that normalfags are now recommending each other to buy off of alibaba if shipping time is not a concern.

A little preview of what's coming to the market tomorrow. I hope you sold like Mikey told you to.

>>53553867
>>53553887

bullish nintendo

>>53553911
>NASDAQ down 1.66% in the futures market.

>>53554004
Got the BJ handle hair style, signaling the nasty sloppy toppy for 20 dollars

>>53554014
friendly reminder that women poop shit out of their asshole and it smell like farts.

>>53554026
why? their mobile games went nowhere and they will probably pull a 'Wii U' pretty soon

>>53554005
>>53553950
Did you know that Disney has corporate bonds that were issued with 100 years

>>53553990
How would meta win in this case when none of their products are tailored for this? Only whatsapp is still routinely used among their offerings and they haven't properly monetized it yet. Netflix or disney or google (due to the likes of youtube) or even amazon (prime, twitch) are infinitely better choices if that's what you're looking for.
In a depression scenario, as we both said, those companies are good picks as you point out because they're cheap. In a stagflation scenario, however, that's not really relevant.

>SPY dropped from 418 to 415
>Bobos got euphoric
Yea we're going higher tomorrow and next week, it won't stop until every last bobo has capitulated and their bank accounts hit zero.

NASDAQ futures are down 1.6% on literally NO NEWS? This shit is rigged, even bobos can't explain this.

>>53554035
Women also some times fart and the bubble gets trapped in their gooch and travels up their gooch into their vaginas and they have to re fart out the fart from their asshole back out through their vaginas. Some times they just ping pong it back and forth.

>>53553973
Yes, sold USD/CAD like a retard.

>>53554048
i hope it goes higher too. the higher up it goes the harder it falls. i need some serious momentum to have it dump back to where i need it.

>>53554028
As I said.
>>53554051
No news? All tech companies keep shitting the bed quarter after quarter.

>>53553978
>coming to work in pajama pants
absolute state of amerilards

>>53554068
This is actually not true with the stock market and historically speaking, depending on the general trend of the market, higher highs will lead to higher lows.

>>53554074
Earnings seemed good to me, guidance was good. Tim Cook even said Apple would have hit their targets if not for the supply chain issues.

>>53554045
less DI + more free time = insta scrolling increases and facebook market grows. whatsapp is economically irrelevant imo
google is a very good shout as well. netflix is interesting due to retail anti-hype over the "wifi confirmation" rule leak
what am I missing regarding the irrelevance to stagflation?

>>53554076
My boss used to come to work in his pj's, he thought it made him look "hip" and "happening". It actually made him look like the biggest tool, lording over us poor plebs who have to dress to go to work.

>>53554078
you have a point. damn.

>>53553996
you underestimate just how dumb markets are. I too am shocked people are rushing to buy calls.
>>53554013
honestly I live in perpetual fear of China invading Taiwan, so I'm fearful of the ADR structure. It's funny that this selloff was caused by the rumor that they want to move their HQ to Singapore, which I would personally find more bullish in the long run. If true, I'll wait for the China banks that were being mandated to buy by the CCPP to then be mandated to liquidate their position by the CCPP.

About to change my bio to just mention the type to give a snuggle with a struggle. Just like when the market makers made me bite the pillow today buying a call on LNG.

>>53553995
We don't have a dress code here
>>53554004
Her boyfriend works for me too she just turned 18, she's a sweetheart. I don't look at her that way. She's more like a daughter to me.

>>53554080
>more free time = insta scrolling increases and facebook market grows
Seems like a retarded take. Has that happened before?

>>53554039
pokemon cards blowing up again disney feels threatened

>>53553883
I'm DCAing into 2x leveraged NASDAQ-100, because I'm more comfortable with 2x.
But even there, what I'm worried about is not the leveraged aspect, or the index by itself.
It's by how the govs could fuck us at some point. Don't be surprised if they close down those leveraged ETF to retails, I remember an article from one of the governing entities (not sure if it was the SEC or some other entity) talking about it. And, of course, it would be done at the worst possible moment, where you'll get fucked in the ass during a krach, with no way to recoup the losses.

>>53554110
Is it actually reasonable to hold 2x leveraged positions over a long period of time? I know with 3x leverage you are subject to decay, but, is this also true of 2x leveraged positions?

>>53554080
Literally nobody uses insta or facebook.
Whatsapp is the cornerstone of communication in like half the world. Failing to monetize it is such a ludicrous mistake it's amazing.
If there's stagflation without a depression, it means income is following inflation. This means cheapies aren't something people care about much. The problem is related to growth and service expansion. I bet services like automation and CDNs will perform great in those environments.

YOU'VE NEVER DANCED LIKE THIS BEFORE
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT

>>53554062
How leveraged are you? And how many pips before you get liquidated?

How would Joe Biden respond to a Chinese invasion of Taiwan and what would be the financial implications of that happening?

>>53554110
>market pumps, you jump into leverage etf
>market unexpectedly dumps leaving you bagholding TQQQ
>Gov says leveraged etfs are banned and force liquidates you at the bottom.
thats just so evil that i can see it happening.

>>53554062
How stupid do you have to be? My fucking sides!

>>53554128
3x makes you subject to decay such that it's more of a 2.5x position. I think the ideal leverage was like 2.1x anyways.
There's a thing where you hold TQQQ while SPY is above 200MA (which it now is)

>>53554138
They monetize it by selling certain users data to the feds, also scraping everyones data to sell to advertising companies

>>53554151
i'm surprised it didn't happen last year. there are anons here holding TQQQ since 80/70/60s who would have been assfucked.

>>53554159
Yeah, but it's obviously not enough. They floated the idea of offering a payment service/money transfer through it. If they did that, they'd make ridiculous bank overnight. Yet they're twiddling their thumbs about it.

>>53554144
Why wouldnt they shoot it down?

>>53554138
>Literally nobody uses insta or facebook.
they reported that Facebook proper now has 2 billion DAILY active users. DAILY. not monthly anymore, DAILY. the "nobody uses it" narrative is just so unbelievably unfounded. almost as bad as the "tiktok will kill them" narrative.

>>53554128
People will point out pic related and this article (+ the paper that is linked to this article) to tell you it's a non issue for long periods of holding : http://www.ddnum.com/articles/leveragedETFs.php

I tend to think so as well, but who knows. I think 3x is probably too much for my heart, and a crab market going on for years could fuck you quite a lot. I think 2x is more reasonable, with, of course, less potential gains.

reminder to buy and hold INTC

>>53554158
The optimal is in the 2.5-3.2 range depending on several factors (the underlying, the period you're looking at, etc.)

>>53554169
the story is that it would endanger people on the ground, but Montana is so sparsely populated, idk how they could make that argument in good faith

>>53554102
considering twitter and fb boomed during covid, it seems rational
>>53554138
insta is 3rd most popular among zoomers after yt and tiktok and still 2nd among milennials
I'm not saying whatsapp shouldn't be monetized, I'm saying I doubt its use & revenue rates follow market & economic trends. it's a ubiquitous communication tool
stagflation results in high unemployment, hence my thesis above

>>53553978
what fuckin job can you dress like that

Reminder to buy and sell INTC over and over again to drive the price lower so you can bag more cheap shares.

>>53554180
reminder to short INTC because the company is reducing employee salaries + bonuses + 401k matching, which will scare away current talent and deter future talent from wanting to join. it's a screaming value trap.

He is telling you that he is going to pivot.

>>53554193
i had to grab little caesars the other night (only option available, family starving) and the girl cooking pizzas in the back was dressed exactly like that with like Beats by Dre on

>>53554168
They'd have a bunch of normies leave if they had WhatsApp pro, it's like Google taking losses on YouTube for years just to have a monopoly on web video, just web messaging is a lot easier to develop and implement, already has competition worldwide, like Bibi or whatever china uses.

>>53553816

>>53554210
>Jay

>>53554216
Not talking about whatsapp pro, holy shit learn to read.
I'm talking about being able to put your whatsapp up to the pay terminal to get it to expense you, or getting granny to give you $10 at the tap of a button in your whatsapp chat window.
Line and wechat are not an issue because nobody uses them outside their respective regions, if anything they're excellent proof that the model works. Now whatsapp has the whole rest of the world under control to which they can offer those features.

>>53553938
please tell me this is a larp anon

>>53554058
>>53554046
that is not possible

>>53553816
Good job anon. You will be spared a trip to the gulag.

>>53554173
>>53554187
The consensus here seems to be that Meta had bad earnings and just rallied because of a stock buyback. What you say?

>>53553997
Median income is useless data.
There's a large group of people working 10, 20, maybe 30 hours a week at some minimum wage job just to have some income so they can claim welfare.
There are "self-employed" living with their parents.
These are all in the sample set.

So the median ends up being the 20th percentile among full time workers. The worst of the worst. Even at 50th percentile among full time workers, it wouldn't mean much. Most people simply don't put in any effort to maximize their income.
It shouldn't surprise you that people interested in trading stocks, a vehicle for earning profit, are largely the type of people who have also put in some work to maximize their employment income. The top 10% isn't as rare as you may think. It's still 20 million people. One in ten who work. You probably know one of them in your personal life, if not several.

>>53554243
Reading is gay
FB already has enough PR problems, them fucking up a in app payment service would be funny to watch. Probably red tape up the ass to be a payment processor in us and definitely in EU

i just want the comfy old internet back. i'm sorry i ever started using google.

>>53554169
>>53554184
Could contain a bioweapon. Or the satellite (?) attached to it could contain something to spy on military units that interact with it

>>53554193
Custodial work, you work in an empty building most of the time.

>>53554169
It's got a nuke dangling from it, theyre waiting for it to dangle over somewhere with more niggers

>>53554284
if it gets hot you can tell her she is allowed to take her shirt off or maybe wear a bikini. just to help her of course because shes your daughter. you wouldnt want your daughter over heating.

>>53554274
>Probably red tape up the ass to be a payment processor in us
Yes, but for a company like meta it's really not an issue. Many cryptoshit companies do it all the time for instance. It's actually easier in the EU than in the US by the way.

Google call I placed today is going to fuck me big time tomorrow and not in a good way. Any chance it poomps in this clown market that's been lately

>>53554144
how do they know it's chinese?

>>53554315
hard to imagine that a bear trap would happen after hours but all of tomorrow might be a bear trap and then a gap up on monday as long as your call is far out.

>>53554258
people here neglect to mention that they also raised guidance and Zuck made it crystal clear he was serious about cutting down costs instead of doubling down on the Metaverse projects again.

I have faith that Zuck won't sunk cost fallacy the Metaverse into existence, so he'll only keep pursuing it if he actually sees it'll work out. Otherwise, he pivots away and everything goes back to normal. I also think the fact that the company hasn't monetized WhatsApp yet is a huge deal, and when they do start monetizing, they'll print an unholy amount of money.

>>53554315
Seems like a coinflip to me. Everyone has loaded up on calls this time so it's a good time to pull the rug but I'm not gonna discount the retard pump

So what the fuck is happening with Carvanna? That company has unironically no future yet it is squeezing up. Is it another bed bath situation where the squeezers get sqozed?

>>53554312
And crypto isn't regulated up the ass like fiat payments and crypto has so many fucking rug pulls because of it.
Maybe but that mess of nations are already taking little bites out of meta with each of them fineing them over whatever they want to take a quick milli off of them, I wouldn't be keen with working with those vultures any time soon, giving them more ammo to take shots at me

>>53554276
I find it hard to believe China would be stupid enough to put a bioweapon on a balloon. It seems like more of a "fuck you" to our government

>>53554318
Well for starters it needs a balloon.

SHOW YOURSELF HARBY YOU FUCKING COWARD

>>53554354
>And crypto isn't regulated up the ass like fiat payments and crypto has so many fucking rug pulls because of it.
1- I'm talking about crypto services that are registered as payment processors, dumbfuck
2- It's not 2013 anymore, inbred.

Oracle has now joined IBM in issuing an assload of bonds. Looks like the boomer tech companies are trying to get some cash to join the AI grift.

>>53554193
Uh well on the 2nd floor of my building some of the people wear their pajamas and no one cares. It's mostly sitting on your ass all day and the jobs these people do are mostly staffed by women so yeah. Now the 5th floor (or was it 3rd?) some dude who used to work there brought in a mounted deer head and kept it in his office cubical. Then the 3rd floor the nickname was the "plant floor" due to the people who worked on it had plants all next to the windows and stuff.

>>53553978
lol that ridiculous negro hair

>>53554343
This happened back in August as well. Carvana went up from 20 to 50 in a month even though the general trend was down for the whole year

>>53554343
the squeezers are getting squadoodled, but if management has half a brain, they'll issue shares at these retarded prices, which oddly enough would help them repay their bonds and actually hinder the bankruptcy thesis in the short term. the bond prices are increasing too as this is what's likely being expected.

also used car prices have been randomly pumping too, which is probably related as well.

>>53554315
You’re fucked. As far as failures of the earning season go, Google and maybe Ford were the shittiest of the shit. Both can easily lose 30%-50% in 2023. They’re sure as Hell not going to pump. Google is not the same company it used to be. It’s flooded with creativity killing woke culture.

Bearbros, will we get revenge today?

>>53554048
by the time this is over I am going to be out of pattern day trader restrictions

this is what doesnt make sense about the market bottoming before a recession because the recession would reflect itself in earnings and people base their decision of the price of a stock on earnings, meaning they need to know the earnings first before they can price in a stock. so how unless people jsut ignore earnings and price in something that they dont know will happen, like a company recovering, they can only use the current data they have and rely on guidance which is also not reliable.

>>53554367
Yeah a E-faggot coin isn't a dollar so the government/MasterCard/visa and your bank isn't going to give a fuck about your fag coin app stealing faggot coins from your nigger wallet, cry a river to your fag coin creators. No customer protections on that shit dumbass, FB app doing dollar to dollar is a completely different ball game you mongoloid.
>Nobodies getting rug pulled! That was a decade ago!
Lmao FTX was like 3 months ago brainlet

>>53554400
no. rude bear-sans get what they deserve.

>>53554318
It's either them or yet another ass backward communist country anyway. Imagine spying with a fucking balloon when that shit was done with SR-71s sixty, *60* fucking years ago.

>>53554169
So they can put fake shit under it to troll china.

>>53554389
Carvanas bonds bounced up about 5%. They sold some loans they had to ally financial so now they are on life support.

>trading in all Adani stocks has been halted right at market open
geez, but he filmed a video saying all his companies were financially sound!

boolish

>>53554487
You know whats funny? India also makes it near impossible to short.

>>53554495
He forgot the step of setting half the money on fire first for growth

>>53554496
I thought about shorting INDA (India ETF), but it doesn't seem like the broader Indian market cares (yet at least).

>>53554371
The 4th floor got the unfortunate nickname the "death floor". Some dude had the big one at his desk while eating lunch. Co workers had all left to go get some lunch so he was by himself. They all came back to find him dead. I seen the EMT's haul the body out the front door on a stretcher. One of the elevators got the nickname the "shat box". Some random dude off the street managed to get in the building and got on the elevator. The elevator malfunctioned and the dumbass didn't use the emergency phone to call for help. So he was trapped for a bit. Dude took a big shat in the corner while waiting for help.

I love CSCO.
Zero drama with this stock.

>>53554510
Apparently their "index" didnt put a lot of emphasis on the adani holdings.

>>53554511
i would have taken off my underwear and shit on it then kind of wrap it up like a diaper and throw it away

>>53554142
50:1
223 pips

i'm only up like +20% so far YTD.........
META made more in a single day than i did all fucking year.........

>>53554539
my forex account was up 20% yesterday because of the USD having such an awful day, it was based

gave me half of that today with the USD moonshotting but thats ok I'm still up because I'm so bearish on the USD after all the QE

>>53554532
seems like its only ~3% of the ETF.

ughnnn oh fuck

>>53554556
I've been making bank on selling Yen crosses lately. Then got this stupid notion about the loonie.

>dow futes going green

>>53554363
and that means POOMP

Ah, I see oil is dying again.

>>53554575
someone call 911

>>53554591
>RETVRN TO SAFETY

https://youtu.be/CtSRYpXmdsM
> However, we need to walk this path together until the victory. And -- when we'll be able to end this war by throwing out the occupiers -- in the same manner together we'll be able to start the difficult work of rebuilding Ukraine -- our cities, our economy, our infrastructure. It is already clear that this will be the largest economic project of our time in Europe. It is obvious that American business can become the locomotive that will once again push forward global economic growth.

>We have already managed to attract attention and have cooperation with such giants of the international financial and investment world as Black Rock, J.P. Morgan, and Goldman Sachs. Such American brands as Starlink or Westinghouse have already become part of our Ukrainian way. Your brilliant defense systems -- such as HIMARS or Bradleys -- are already uniting our history of freedom with your enterprises. We are waiting for Patriots.1 We are looking closely at Abrams.

>Thousands of such examples are possible. And everyone can become a big business by working with Ukraine in all sectors -- from weapons and defense to construction, from communications to agriculture, from transport to IT, from banks to medicine. And I believe that freedom must always win. And, I invite you to work with us right now.

So is investing in these companies that are going to rebuild Ukraine easy money or what?

Watching Adani Enterprise collapse reminds me a lot of watching HKD's fall from grace. Incredible how that had a "market cap" of $500B.

lmao

https://twitter.com/DriveTeslaca/status/1621254404652544000

>>53554589
what do you mean by yen crosses?

I've been long yen vs USD since early January, sold at 133 and we're at what 128.5 currently, big stacks dude

>>53554624
How long until NIMBYs ban it for being a mobile eyesore? That's legally possible, right?

>>53553966
Best stock tip itt

>>53554624
fockin hideous. looks like a fockin lego set

>>53554591
YASSSSSS

>>53554595
i solded monday morning
it was still somehow around +/-0% that morning even though nat gas already shat the bed

time will tell if that was the right move, -4% is just daily volatility for energy

>>53554626
mostly sold usd/jpy, sometimes aud/jpy or eur/jpy, yen crosses, made a nice chunk of change, usually covering after the chinks opened

lol, lmao even

>>53554611
>he actually says it word for word
>11k views
lmfao America is back baby!

>>53554431
The market only bottoms before a recession if the Fed starts preemptively dropping rates to stimulate the economy. In our case now the Fed is hiking into a recession, so the bottom hasn't been reached yet

SIR DO NOT

>>53554138
>Whatsapp is the cornerstone of communication in like half the world. Failing to monetize it is such a ludicrous mistake it's amazing.
its a cornerstone because its fucking free.

>>53554636
agreed

>>53554611
yes, look up the bolshevik revolution and who funded both sides so that once one side won they could invest cheaply while the country rebuilt

>>53554144
china has no interest in invading taiwan

its a convenient distraction

their real aim is One Belt One Road - financially colonizing afghanistan and then pakistan for access to the indian ocean - short hop from there to africa where they are already spreading roots

another thing to consider is language. speakers of tonal languages find it much easier to learn each others' languages than to cross the tonal-atonal barrier.

red dots on picrel represent tonal languages. if you can't see where i'm going with this, you're retarded.

the ultimate prize for china is influence over the panama canal zone via cuba. taiwan is nothing

>>53554624
looks like what my mate who was learning Blender made when he just started out
absolutely embarassing

>>53554710
>the ultimate prize for china is influence over the panama canal zone via cuba
I fucking hate Jimmy Carter so fucking much.

>>53554710
Take your meds sir

>>53554704
do you have any reading recommendations to learn about the cultural revolutions in china and russia? people say that what i happening in america is similar and id like to learn in what ways.

still have some calls for tomorrow and next week for SOXL. Is tomorrow turbo green ?

>>53554495
I read that as a great way to generate exit liquidity

>>53554434
I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to the mentally disabled. I hope I didn't cause you too much distress with the amount of "big" "words" I had to use.

>>53554710
>the ultimate prize for china is influence over the panama canal zone via cuba.
This is on par with the US squatting way the fuck over in Iraq or Afghanistan. There's zero chance they become powerful and retarded enough to do that this century.

If you had 10 million dollars in your bank account right now, what would you do/buy?

>>53554747
I swear to God I'll pistol whip the next guy that says "exit liquidity".

>>53554770
JNJ

>>53553794
That episode was fucking terrible.
>The peak of modern New York comedy was when three morons joked about "African Shark Tank"

>>53554770
Wonder where the rest of my fucking money went.

>>53554770
based spain

>>53554664
USA! USA! USA!

>>53554144
>>53554318
americans really believe everything media tells them lmao

>>53554770
40 BRK.A shares because it'd be funny.

>>53554770
$5m JEPQ or SCHD
$4m VOO or SPY
$1m pay off my house, buy an anCnoc 18 and a number six by Rocky Patel and send some texts to some people. I would tell them to fuck off.

>>53554774
without exit liquidity there's sure to be a short squeeze to the moon. a 10 bagger if you will.

>>53554741
Thank you for your sacrifice.

>>53554799
For me it's Lindt shares. 1,200 Swiss Franc divvy, per.

>>53554774
i think it originated from the crypto pits. anyone that says it should be ignored. same goes for FED posters

>>53554770
short amazon

>>53554595
It always dies somewhere in feb, then jumps back until march where it zigzags around until june, then it dumps again, and so forth.

>>53554624
looks better than most SUVs

what you all dont understand about car culture, especially non-white car culture, is that people don't want something that looks """"good""" by which you mean vaguely in step with current styles and not something that anyone will ever call ugly ever because youd cry because you have no balls.

people from shall we say flashier cultures want something that will *catch the eye* first and foremost - and the uglier & more expensive, the madder it makes "haters, " the better.

the funny thing about Teslas is, while im supercharging, i have seen waaaay the fuck more black people driving Teslas than you would ever guess. its a mild flex, it zooms, it has a good sound system.

the cybertruck could be the cadillac escalade of its time AND the dodge charger of its time put together. and once theyre selling aftermarket megaspeakers to put in the back, get ready for some oomp you can hear for miles.

can you retards stop posting so much. let's limit ourselves to one high quality post per hour to improve the thread!

>>53554810
meh, sold 450 today for 60% profit

>>53554826
I will start

>>53554671
Stop being illiterate please.

>>53554826
>>53554674

>>53554826
here's mine, fuck off

>>53554824
That would be a niche product. People buy cars because they actually need them

>>53554836

Why is no one talking about amc?

>>53554770
7 million in various government-backed instruments
2 million on real estate rental properties in pro-landlord states
1 million split between SPY puts and ETH post-crash

>>53554811
>1 Lindt share is $80,000
Even Wall Street can’t manipulate that stock

>>53554826
I'm sorry

>>53554819
I think I'd rather short NFLX on low leverage. It's going to 0 at some point

>>53554762
its not about invading it idiot, are you from 1902?

its about having sufficient influence in the area and directing sufficient business through there that its YOUR bribes and YOUR ships that have priority - that 3rdworld politicians and businesspeople are sending their kids to chinese universities to learn chinese, because chinese business is more important than western.

i'm not saying theyre gonna "win" whatever "win" means. its how they maintain balance. china doesnt want to be involved in governing a bunch of 3rd worlders nor do they particularly want them in their country.

taiwan is our check on them, and cuba is their check on us. its like a yin & yang. and theyre perfectly happy to have it stay that way while they come around the back headed straight at our butthole.

>>53554826
Shut up homo

>>53554770
Retire

>>53554770
$1m on some random penny stock and shill it here before hand just for fun

How do I learn how different industries work? I need that context to evaluate a stock. Any book recommendations?

>>53554865
Right, you're gonna dislodge the CIA peacefully. With the help of Cubans (lol). Zero military force.

Sure, that's realistic. About 100 years from now.

>>53554886
>Any book recommendations?
dune

Puts on AAPL for next week seem like a good play. How about TSLA?

>>53554826
dont tell me what to do

2 Boeing (Ticker:BA) P-8A Poseidon maritime surveillance aircraft have been dispatched from FL to MT presumably to monitor a Chinese spy balloon.
>what are the economic implications of this

>>53554886
Depends on the industry.

>>53554826
BBBY

>>53554900
Where did that balloon enter from? Did it come from the east coast? if so US has shit ass defense

>>53554900
>monitor a Chinese spy balloon
lmao just shoot it down pussy

>>53554900
If they were P-8A-MAX's, then I'd say Boeing is about to get orders for 2 new ones. Balanced out by a couple FAA crash investigations.

>>53554844
are you seventy five? if that was true then everyone would be driving a honda civic. having a de minimis car is not people's concern. people will pay through the nose for luxury goods, *especially* people from groups that are still moving up in the world, for whom having an $80k car is an instant indication that theyve "made it" in a way that is immediately communicated to their friends, neighbors, and community. meanwhile no one you know really gives a shit if you drive a mercedes or a honda and you have to compete on annoying and gay shit like how expensive your house is.

arent you jealous of people who can actually feel on top of the world just because they have a rolex and a lexus? they might never have more than $8k in the bank but they already feel successful in a way you might never. like, i would have to make a million by 32 to outdo my dad, and at this point i dont think thats fuckin happening. did marry a girl with loaded parents so at least im a successful gigolo

>>53554770
>If you had 10 million dollars in your bank account right now, what would you buy?
The U.S. Congress.
Sam Bankman Fried was a genius!
The other $5 million to cars and fine furnishings. In a couple years my 'foundation' might net $40M a quarter!
>pic nr

>>53554902
I'm interested in the packaged foods industry.

>>53554770
2 chicks at the same time

>>53554889
do you think a hundred years is like...a long time? this is why china is winning idiot. theyre building ring roads around beijing that wont have people to use them for another 25 years. they plan ahead.

plus i dont think america still makes those cold blooded & dapper cia agents anymore. pretty soon the ones made in china will be sleeker and faster, just like with teslas.

>>53554928
West coast. News is saying DOD has known about it for a few days, but that the big guy said no to shooting it down.
>KC135 holding over WY
Bullish for LMT?
>>53554934
The big guy said no (((they))) spent good money on buying him off
>>53554937
This is why I come to /biz/

>>53554962
Work in an industrial plant, get an eng or finance degree, or maybe pick a sector more suited to your own background?

>>53554942
Cybertruck looks like sit though, not look like a luxury car

>>53553816
We did our taxes and we’re getting 600$ back. Lowest we’ve ever gotten since having kids. Never gotten less than 1k back before. Fuck the fed and fuck the admin.

>>53554984
>theyre building ring roads
yea, probably using shitty materials. Roads need to be maintained. Creating roads in turd world shitholes has to be one of the dumbest ideas I've heard

>>53554994
what did the IRS mean by this?

>>53554985
>big guy said no to shooting it down.
Sounds potentially treasonous, clearly impeachable.
Joe must be tired and ready to quit.
Dow up 3,000?

>>53554997
Dumb fuck. They demand shit like military bases as collateral for the work, never actually complete the roads, then demand the collateral anyway. This is how they've operated for decades. Read a book.

>>53554981
That's it? If you had 10 million dollars you'd do 2 chicks at the same time?

>>53555009
I'll trust Doug on this one. He says the chinks are being dumb with the Belt and Road initiative

>>53554770
a really nice bed, a female stock broker to trade for me and a bedtime story robot

and probably lots of exotic cigarettes

>>53554991
the worse it looks, the more people will buy it, just to piss you off. "i have so much money i can look like shit and not care" is the ultimate flex. silicon valley guys have been doing this forever with their dumpy hoodies and bad haircuts. well that ones only partly on purpose.

if they make an edition thats golden it will sell like popeye chicken sandwiches if you get the obvious implication of what im saying

its like the car version of diamond studded grill teeth

>>53554984
Do you? Because 100 years from now we'll have slave robots that have dug backup canal zones in Nicaragua, Mehico, and Columbia. Panama's monopoly is one left alone out of convenience. Some "ultimate prize".

>>53554987
It's a fair point that I should only bother with stocks in the industries I have experience in.
I'm curious what a young equity analyst read (either while studying finance or upon getting hired) that allows him to analyze packaged-food stocks.

>>53555014
Damn straight, I always wanted to do that man.

>>53555027
lol. Bullshit

>50+% of all options traded are now 0DTE
>highest options buying in history
>highest retail call buying on record
But I have embraced the clown with my long APE position

>>53555037
i bet theyd be some real hot chicks too. thats what id do, two really hot chicks at the same time.

>>53554994
>>53555002
No stimulus, smaller child tax credit, they even changed charitable deductions: https://thehill.com/policy/finance/3828849-why-the-irs-says-to-expect-smaller-tax-refunds-this-year/

>>53555009
>>53554997
china is building the ring roads around their own cities that will be growing for decades to come. beijing is in china, you know that right?

the majority of people in china are still farmers who are literally restricted to their farms and not allowed to move to cities. this is how china has kept their cities mostly nice, growing steadily, and free from ghettos. now you and i would call that "unfree" and "serfdom" and thats one way of looking at it, but it works.

they can build these roads and *then* slowly open the taps on letting rural people migrate to cities, once the infrastucture is already there to support them.

in america we only add more lanes to the highway once the traffic jams are so bad that people demand them. in china they can start building the highway twice as wide a decade before anyones even using it, then build apartments there, then move people in.

>>53555003
"U.S. military leaders considered shooting down the balloon over Montana on Wednesday but eventually advised Biden against it because of the safety risk from debris, the official told reporters."
https ://news.yahoo.com/suspected-chinese-spy-balloon-flying-223546331.html

They're trying to give him an out by claiming safety of the immensely dense population... In northern Montana. Its pretty obvious his handlers in Peking said no.

Its likely this cheap 1950's era excuse for a spy balloon flew directly over Fairchild AFB completely unopposed.

>>53555034
A mix of 10-K's, other analyst reports (Morningstar, etc), whatever Google throws up when searching "canned food history book" or some such.

>>53555061
You mean like them nevergrande ghost cities? That expansion sure was a good use of money.

>>53555061
and then noone moves in

>>53555064
Christ, imagine if the Soviets did that with the U-2.
>Nyet, let Comrade Powers take his pictures. We cannot jeopardize our pristine kolkhoz fields.

>>53555034
My reply probably sounded snarky, but I literally dropped out of eng school, completed a finance degree, and worked in an industrial plant. And I still have no idea about 'packaged foods', though I once watched a fascinating video about Chobani's amazing story. Maybe start with that. Success in that industry has more to do with the food than the packaging, and the producers that pay attention to what the consumer genuinely wants does pretty well over the long-term.

>>53555051
And I think if I were a millionaire I could hook that up too, cause chicks dig dudes with money

>>53555103
Well not all chicks.

>>53555039
say that to lvmh's face

5/6ths of the world is still in a state where eating at mcdonalds vs cooking at home is a status symbol

as poorer populations start to add income beyond subsistence, basically all of that will go to luxury goods to demonstrate status

its only once people are so wealthy that luxury goods (short of yachts or mansions) dont mean much that they start not to care again

anything that is expensive and ugly can become a luxury good on that basis alone with sufficient meme power

and a bunch of white faggots hating on the cybertruck WILL give it that meme power

its going for the g-wagon market, simple as

>>53555108
Well the type of chicks that would double up on dude like me do.

>>53554204
You’ve been pushing this retarded narrative all day. Absolute subzero IQ take

>>53555123
Human capital flight is absolutely a thing though.

>>53555103
whoa youre not even talking about spending the money on hot escorts. smart money saving tip.

>>53554657
I would even say roflcOpter

>>53555091
lmao you still dont get it. china doesnt have to wait for people to move in of their own accord. they simply give a migration pass to 10 million out of their literal billion peasant farmers and kaboom you have a city.

you absolutely cannot understand china without reckoning with the fact that so much of their population is literally bound to the land at the moment

people say the dumbest things about china. "oh their population is starting to go down! theyre gonna implode!" like lmao WHAT? they had a fucking ONE CHILD POLICY up until fucking 2015. they lifted it once their concern was no longer about too much population growth.

china century is barely getting started

>futures

>futures are recovering

>>53555129
Talent will always be desirable and talent knows this. Large percentage of tech is useless leeches and investors know this as well.

bhenchods

>>53554770
60 acres, a 2200 square foot 2 story barndominium, some chickens, hogs, sheep, 200k gold, 200k silver and a 1996 toyota hilux, put the rest in divy stocks that aren't FAGMAN or FAGMAN adjacent.

>>53555143
It's almost like the first 10 minutes are not telling of anything bobo.

I just hope TSLA goes up tomorrow guys :(

>>53555156
Yes, and if everyone sees their salaries being cut, they know layoffs are the next step. So everyone will begin to look around at alternatives, and the first ones to successfully jump ship are necessarily the most talented.

Retarded diversity hires with no other options burrow in and cling to the last, tiniest paycheck they can. In fact they'll often make it worse because passing an interview at some other place can be harder than just throwing more successful coworkers under the bus.

>>53555143
>>53554048

>>53555188
>if everyone sees their salaries being cut
that doesn't happen

>>53555098
>>53555071
Thanks, anons.

>>53554805
I'm waiting for the exit liquidity to reach an apex.

>>53555195
Not at smart companies. But we're talking about INTC: https://www.semianalysis.com/p/intel-cuts-pay-for-employees-to-keep

>>53555214
Bearish as fuck

>>53555214
DO NOT REDEEM THE DIVIDEND SIRS

>>53555214
holy shit

>>53555188
>Everyone
The only people facing cuts are the fat, and those people won’t leave their jobs because they have shit for options. Look at the massive tech layoffs. Saying that the company trimming the fat is a reason for shorting is borderline retarded when even grade school children are aware that advanced AI are available to these companies. AI is cheaper to maintain than retarded dead weight that take shit and cigarette breaks 6 times a day. The company is saving cash overall by getting rid of leeches.

>>53555214
I sill laugh about the resident intc shill who's been shilling it for years saying it'd totally turn around any minute now even as more and more bad news piles up. Isn't he down like 80% by now?

>>53555243
>oy vey goyim don't look at the data it's just the fat believe me oyyy
Just like when they cut 300m funding from their R&D to mysteriously put 300m into a DEI program. I'm sure there was no relation between those two sums and the failure of the R&D teams that year were pure cohencidence as well.

>>53555243
See >>53555214. Because it sounds to me like in the case of Intel in the Year of Our Lord 2023, everyone is facing cuts. This isn't Meta trimming H-1B's or Google laying off comfort women. This is a very different dynamic, that undermines something you can't just throw ChatGPT at (chip design).

>>53555195
I hope you are right anon. I don't want to try finding a new workplace for fear of not getting a higher salary than my current place.

>>53555243
Intel was/is a shit trainwreck company getting what they deserve after a decade of horrific management

>>53555243
I mean, arguably, inflation is so high right now that it's not out of the realm of possibility the market could go back down if the fed says "whoopsies" and has to reign inflation back in and that would mean we are going to have to see some serious hits to the labor market. Hits in sectors like manufacturing and such.

I'm very bullish rn, but, I am gonna be honest I deff do not think that inflation is on a trajectory to 2%, personally.

>>53555260
>ChatGPT
Problem is you think a company like Intel is using free, consumer level technology. I’m sure they’ll step right up and announce that most of their human element is useless because that won’t make waves. Better to blame the “economy” to save face. This isn’t rocket science. Companies do slimy shit like this on the daily because they exist to make money and that’s IT. Everything and everyone is expendable to meet that end.

>>53555214
Intel wagies getting heemed is bullish for the overall market.

>>53555265
at every corporation that i've worked they'll lay people off if operating expenses are too high for the environment. never heard of any serious company reducing base salary. i have my doubts on the truth of these claims.

>>53555283
Nigga, do you really think they have some wunderwaffe general purpose AI that can route traces? Really? Do you really sincerely think that?

>>53555243
At the end of the day, these big tech companies realized that they can run their companies with a substantial cut in labor without losing productivity. They layoffs are unironically bullish because they're doing it specifically for the shareholders. They didn't need to layoff those employees, they wanted to. The big question is where do the tens of thousands of tech employees go now that they're layed off? They're too proud and soft to work blue collar jobs.

>>53555293
I mean, here's Reuters if you want the Mainstream Stamp of Truth: https://www.reuters.com/technology/intel-slashes-employee-exec-pay-amid-pc-market-downturn-2023-02-01/

>>53555320
>>53555320
>>53555320

>>53555311
the trouble with the article is that mid-level can mean just about anything. if that's a level just below the execs then it's more believable, but if it's hitting the people doing the designs and plugging in soldering irons then that's a different story. either way, it's surprising to see. thanks for the link.

>>53555300
It’s extremely naive to think that what’s available for big bucks behind the curtains isn’t leaps and bounds beyond what’s given for free to the peasants. You aren’t even trying anymore. Always some tard with 20+ posts in these threads acting like some kind of retarded bot or shill.

>>53555352
Jesus, dude, I'm sorry if you're down this bad on your INTC position. But sometimes you just gotta sell and move on with your life.

>>53555374
Not even holding in INTC just noticing how loud you are in every thread calling for shorts. You’re so obvious it’s unreal.

>>53555394
I'm not calling for anyone to short. I just think it's a funny dumpster fire of a company. Like, XYORUngp is in actual disbelief that they'd just straight up cut salaries. L^MAO

>>53555214
Oooooof

Man I’ve been sober for 6 weeks, but I want a drink so bad right now. I got an unopened bottle of herradura in the cabinet. Tell me not to be retarded and stay the course, smg..

>>53555470
put down the liquid jew

in 10 years, you'll look back and be like "why did i start drinking again, i didnt want this, if only i never went back to it"

I SHALL BE HER EYES

So I did the interactive brokers application thing, said I was a student and ticked the boxes that said I was interested in options and leverage. Then they said my financial circumstances are not right for me to offer those products, so I said whatever, and changed my income to above 50k. Then they accepted my application, but now I get an email saying they want to know how I am making above 50k as a student

Fucks sake just let me fucking trade. Why is it that I can join crypto markets like binance and they just let me do what I want but stock brokers put 273847292798 hurdles in my way? JUST LET ME TRADE YOU MOTHERFUCKER

Anyways, if I re-do the application and say I am a software engineer earning 100k, will they ask for proof of employment or whatever? Or can I just lie about my profession/employer and they will accept it?

>tell an anon that the djia is better than the s and p because more numbers
>he accuses me of trolling him
Why does it feel like a lot of newfags recently found out the word 'trolling' exists and assume every funpost is a conspiracy to drive them insane. Literally this website is slowly becoming an actual no fun zone, besides the fact there's almost never any good alpha here anymore and every other bit of news arrives here late rather than early. Fuck I hate normalfags.

> SIRI

long or short?

>>53555614
Binance also has KYC but after that it's off to the races. What ruined IBKR for me was the 4 day waiting period after you deposit your funds. I've accepted that I'm stuck with my country's stock exchange if I want stocks

what bitcoin doin?

>>53555667
go back to r/wallstreetbets

NEW

>>53556131

>>53556131

>>53556131

>>53556131

>>53556139
Epic post.

>>53556186
I'm just le trolling you ;^)