/biz/ - Business & Finance

make TSLA go down!

What if the real "/biz/ - Business & Finance" was the friends we made along the way? :)

>Wow I knew that pitch was going to be a fastball inside, but I swung too early.

No matter what, you're just 30 years early to your gains.

I get hard when I start making tons of money off stocks.
Anyone else have this issue? Sometimes it happens in really awkward situations.

Remember Carvana is a sub prime loan company not a car company.

Remember natural gas has the word "natural" in it, i.e. it comes out of the ground, i.e. its true value is $0.

>>53535433

you just know this thread's going to suck

>>53535223
>The bond market is still signalling Great Depression 2. How long can this rally last?
You're reading the bond market wrong. Do you think that bonds 2 years ago were correct in signaling that inflation would be <1% for the next 30 years?
All bonds are really signaling right now is that the Fed isn't dumping enough long duration treasuries to balance the market. They're doing this on purpose, naturally - the QT claims were fake. It's not bearish for risk assets though. Negative real rates are bullish because it means this asset bubble perpetuates and we'll continue to see higher inflation for longer as the wealth effect returns with a vengeance and no one feels pressured to find new jobs. Bearish news for the US dollar is always bullish for things priced in dollars. See DXY move today for reference.

At some point all this will all flip of course, it has to. It's unsustainable. Either the dollar will go into an inflationary death spiral and that'll be the end of us, or we'll see a great depression exceeding every collapse of the past century.
Nothing to do with bond positioning though. Long term treasury market represents some of the dumbest passive and forced buyers out there: pension funds, insurance float, foreign countries that need to hedge payments in dollars, and boomers that truly believe 60/40 is a beneficial strategy. These are boomers that still have yet to realize their bond holdings take on the same duration risk as stocks, but without the long term growth upside potential. They've been fooled to believe they're diversifying, but really it's all the same duration trade.

>>53535402
Fear and Greed index near extreme greed

This is gonna be a easy short

>>53535433
That’s what female brokers are for.

i want a personal apology from all the namefags who said this week would be the mother of all crashes

>>53535471

>>53535479
Lol this dude is watching the FAG index lmao

>>53535461

I can only produce unnatural gas

>>53535479
>market crabs until FAG index goes back down
>then pumps again
wow easy short!!!

>>53535471
What? You want us to do some fundamental analysis? Provide some keen insight into tomorrow's BoE and ECB decisions? Go on, tell us what makes a thread not suck.

>>53535471
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMEmuPFlwM

>>53535402
My poop will linger forever in his house. It will be the most smelliest poop only rival to india

>>53535477
>At some point all this will all flip of course, it has to. It's unsustainable. Either the dollar will go into an inflationary death spiral and that'll be the end of us, or we'll see a great depression exceeding every collapse of the past century.
what is the timeframe those things happening?

>>53535496
Galway Metals is up 12% on the year, so watching and being balls deep on fags pays off.

>>53535535
lmao I forgot about GAYMF

>>53535499
I once accidentally poured gasoline into the wrong place at a natural gas terminal. Whoops! I think that place is still shut down...

Do you guys ever think the Jews made the concept of a "bull market" to get people to indirectly worship moloch?
I mean think about it. Why a bull? A "golden bull" market?
Bruh

Volcker my ass, More like Arthur Burnsnanke

>in cash and oil at the beginning of the great bullrun of the 2020's

I fucked it up. Not going to make it. Missed my chance at generational wealth today. It is all over.

>>53535477
>All bonds are really signaling right now is that the Fed isn't dumping enough long duration treasuries to balance the market.
>"The problem isn't that short term bonds are crashing. The REAL problem is that long term bonds aren't crashing even harder."

>>53535423
he could certainly be right, but he hasn't laid out a detailed thesis on what the cracks are that I know of. he seems to have drunk his own kool-aid a bit

>>53535402
Walletinvestor says all my tech stocks are going to drop 60-70% in the next year. It thinks my safety stocks are all going up. It’s always been wrong though. Do people actually rely on that thing?

>>53535569
All you had to do was buy the S&P500 after the announcement before close. Why was that too hard?

>>53535582
I was at work, spy is gay, and I can't figure out yet what else I want to rotate into out of oil.

>>53535597
Trading or investing?

>>53535528
>what is the timeframe those things happening?
Likely 3-5 more years. But it doesn't matter. You can't position for it because the two outcomes are diametrically opposed. It all depends on the fed. They're walking a tightrope of monetary policy, but at the end of the line there are only bad outcomes. They must make a choice.

Best to just follow along as it progresses. The current direction is bullish stocks, bearish dollar. They may flip again within 6 months. Then they'll flip again. Back and forth until the whole system fails.

>>53535603
one to two year-ish time frame investing

>>53535573
dont rely on anything or anyone, when you have cash you buy, even more so on dips, regardless of the media headline. it's very simple. cheating, almost.

>>53535573
all information presented to you are from jews trying to trick you.

all of it

>Golden bullrun has begun

>>53535671
Holy shit, tech bros.

American Steel and a bunch of Rust Belt Industry reports in the AM. Anyone got any news?
Where's Cliffs tranny? Did that nigger actually get killed?

>>53535688
he gambled his fortune all away on spy options. worse than tinny because he actually did make it

>Coal is now 250 bucks
Jeez it was 350 the last time I checked and that was like a week ago

fuck you

>>53535402
Did we ever figure out how short he is?

>>53535711
Pre-covid high was 150, for reference.

>>53535711
Now pull that chart back to 10 year.

>>53535402
>deleted his account again
Seriously what the fuck is his problem this shit is ridiculous

>>53535725
How'd it go, champ? Want to talk about it?

Apolgize, i was right again

>>53535735
Yup, now I know to stay the fuck away from commodities long term.

>>53535777
Impressive trips.

>>53535740
he does this all the time. I remember this time last year he was bear posting about TSLA earnings since they were following NFLX's first big miss only for them to go up (short term) and him delete his account.

>>53535740
He probably got harassed for being wrong (early)

>>53535782
>Doxing yourself
Sure thing, RicoLaBrocante

>>53535784
>stay away from commodities
Unfortunately I missed the oil bull run for thinking the same thing

>>53535782
wtf is this autistic shit

>>53535837
The only chart to make it

>>53535711
>he doesn't know

>>53535782
RIIIIICO
SUAVE

I think tonight is the night BBBY files for Chapter 11. They have a coupon payment due today.

>>53535568
Precisely. It's like blackrock gating their REIT fund, or private equity funds refusing to mark down their internal valuations despite the massive public market declines.
Except the fed operates on a much larger scale. There's a reason DXY keeps dumping week after week.

FUTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so glad I got in shipping stocks at the bottom.
Now I get to experience what Oil chads did last year.

>>53535420
What if I wasn't losing 10% of my IRA in 2 weeks by taking a large short position?

>>53535492
They got heemed. Their portfolios are vaporized.

I tried to tell them. I mumu posted all month and Bobos still called me crazy and wrong. You can't save people who don't want to be saved.

>>53535897
MY NIGGA

>>53535620
>>53535652
I have no intention of selling any of it. I was just wondering if people take these “ai algorithms” seriously. Like it’s predicting Microsoft will be cut in half in a year. Come on now lol.

>>53535807
In hindsight, the oil run was really obvious, but the Nat Gas and Coal guys managed to luck out on geopolitical tension. If I'm ever gonna buy I need to treat the bag like a hot potato which I wouldn't have been prepared to do if I bought last year

CPI reading in 2 more weeks niggers

>>53535569
there's always a bull market somewhere anon.
> TIME IN THE MARKET .. BEATS TIME-ING THE MARKET! LOL..

>>53535725
Sorry, bobo. You had your run. I sold and held cash and missed the bottom, but I didn’t lose any money. I’m sure there’s another black swan right around the corner. We do live in clown world, after all.

>>53535492
Harby will never show his face around here again

>>53535939
>I was just wondering if people take these “ai algorithms” seriously.
of course they do. they also listen like drooling retards to youtube and twitter grifters that want more views. they'll subscribe to newsletters and join chatrooms to be fed information by people that have no real advantage in the market, because they're a part of the market. the reality is that if people knew what was going to happen, they wouldn't give it away, because that would hurt their financial success by participating directly in the market, whether that be short or long.

>>53535977
Checked for truth, broski.

>>53535955
QUICK BIDEN DUMP THE SPR

It's literally over tomorrow isn't it bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA6bVJ1vw_A

>>53535874
for the zoomers amongst us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8_f3kJOX_8

>BABA already down in HK trading
life is still good

>>53535977
That's why shitposting and talking about random tickers is the right play.
Only high IQ niggas survive on biz.

Are there any biz oldfags that were in real estate in 00s? It seems like it must have been a pretty kino time to be in a biz type job. Easyass money, face to face sales. Going to conventions in places like vegas being a pre shitcoin era degen now and then.

Looking at SBLK right now. What do you guys think ?

I just keep buying VTSAX

>>53535923
save me anon what should i buy

My position of 30% TLT and 70% cash remains unchanged.

Will TSLA continue tomorrow?

>>53536063
sounds comfy, unfortunately comfy usually means shitty returns

SOXL update ?

>>53536066
there is speculation that Elon will sell tomorrow given the speed with which they filed their 8K.

>>53535477
>retard hasn’t ever heard of ownership tranches
>retard brings up real yields then doesn’t even mention real yield spreads vs 1% rates once
>retard just doesn’t understand the entire point of debt
/smg/ will NEVER understand

I hope you never doubted the plan.
Short the American middle class. Long tech garbage. Lever the FUCK up.

>tech futures

>>53535837
BTC

>>53536095
Hmmmm. How much more is he gonna dump? So much expansion in the southwest.

what career should i go into if i have no work experience but relatively competent at financial analysis

tired of NEETing

>>53536107
>you will never catch a flying squirrel
bros, why even live?

>>53536120
Cashier at a grocery store

>>53536086
Up 6% on my TLT shares and tomorrow should be the EX date for the coupon. I also get 4% a year on brokerage cash so I got an extra $200 to start the month. Yeah pretty bad compared to how tech rallied, but if there's any downturn in the market I won't see it.

>PE still under 1
the only bad thing was it formed a gap because it opened too green this morning
after a month of steady gains and no gaps, it finally formed one and i have a deep fear now

but eh it seems a lot of people are noticing that its financial metrics are really unusual, book value is over $100+ per share and its EPS is higher than its ticker price lmao

Burry says to sell. Is it a bad idea to keep my S&P 500 index funds?

burry is right, but he's early

>>53536120
You should find a small firm and lie and say you’re going to college/taking your CFP/CFA and want internship experience

>>53536168
Ticker: JEPI

>>53536161
What company is this?

>>53536169
couldn't you say that about every analyst and every analysis

>>53536194
Hahaha figure it out bro. There’s enough information to find it with a screener.

Is
>right but early
The new Bear cope?

>>53536161
Don't worry Mr. Jackson, I'm in.

>>53535477
>Either the dollar will go into an inflationary death spiral and that'll be the end of us, or we'll see a great depression exceeding every collapse of the past century
Or they'll just make up new rules right when it gets shitty and it will all blow over

>>53535402
What has he been right about recently?

GREG JUST TURNED BULLISH.

>>53536116
no clue. this also just speculation from well known TSLA bears I follow on twitter, so take it with a grain of salt.

>>53536194
Figure it out

>>53536238
yeah, im thinking it's over

>>53536161
that's unreasonable. according to their earnings their shares are now a burden to maintain. literally the only argument for staying public is tax scheme on divies, and I'm not even sure that's a better tax rate than simple profits. especially since you have to split profits with everyone else.

>>53536202
>There’s enough information to find it with a screener
I found it with just the price and a timestamp the other day. Anon has no excuse.
But what's the fundamental reason for it pumping? It just seems odd and like it'd get rugpulled at some point

Kek thank god I hiked my 401k contributions during the shat fest. Now I can uh let the gains just roll in and you know not care one bit till retirement time finally hits.

I only bought 20 SCHD today. What does $10k buy tomorrow? More SCHD until SOXL goes down?

Whats the subreddit called where they put their feet up and post a picture of their meal and their video game setup etc..

ina bad place rn it would really help me emotionally

>>53536240
Im riding it all in tomorrow. Bullish. Wish me luck anon.

>>53536297
Ever time good stocks get posted on smg we always have schizos screaming about it being a rugpull.
Look at the fucken stock. What the fuck are you talking about anon?

>>53536297
>>53536202
Wait a sec, even though it's only a few months old it looks like it's at the "first sell off" of picrel.
This is going to go parabolic isn't it?

>>53536318
I don't know shit about the regional banking sector though, why would it outperform anything else? What separates it from its peers?

>>53536319
so are we at new paradigm or return to normal?

>>53536313
what'll matter more is Friday given we have the unholy trinity of GOOGL AAPL and AMZN reporting earnings after close.

>>53536345
Return to normal

>>53535477

>Long term treasury market represents some of the dumbest passive and forced buyers out there

A point not often understood. The idea that the bond market is the smart money is laughable (and usually said by... smug bond traders). A lot of those retards were calling deflation 2020 and 2021 until inflation cock-slapped them.

Still, some bond traders saw inflation coming: mid 2020 crash long duration dumped at exactly the wrong time, so somebody figured out that congress was about to print a shitload. But we can't have the bond market pricing in inflation from our money printing, so then the Fed stepped in to stop the decline and force 10 yr bonds positive again. LOL

>>53536308
Read a book, nigga.

Is anyone holding sqqq or am I the only retard

>>53536345
>>53536374
For the forbidden ticker meme, I think we're just before Media Attention.
For markets in general, I think we're at Return to Normal.

Tech trannies are getting loud again as their companies continue to burn money and see their revenues fall

>>53536355
I'm unironically bullish on all of those. Don't you agree? (Yes I know AMZN is reporting a loss most likely)

I think TSLA operates in it's own bubble.

>>53536099
>retard
Keep repeating this to yourself. It's a very powerful logical argument. Really would've helped reinforce your points, if you'd had any.
In all seriousness though, why even bother jumping into this thread to type a post that contributes absolutely nothing?

I was writing about treasuries, not corporate bonds. Treasuries aren't even really bonds in the debt sense because there's no risk. The debtor controls the very currency that makes up their payment. It's just a contract for future dollars, in exchange for present dollars. There are no tranches.
As for the yield curve.. it's completely irrelevant to my point. Real yields were negative across the curve in 2020, by design. The fed set those rates back then, and that was the "signal" that it provided. The fed also sets rates today. It makes no difference how they choose to set the different yields at each duration on the curve. Look at Japan for a more explicit yield curve control model, but understand that our fed is effectively doing the same thing. They just haven't written it up as an official mandate.
The point is if it's all rigged, or even if any single point on the curve is rigged, the entire signal value is essentially zero. There is no meaning to be found in looking at treasury bonds nowadays.

Maybe next time you'll try using your eyes. Try reading my post. Try to comprehend. Then, once you've finished, you can form a meaningful counterargument.
..or just fuck off and go shitpost in one of the 99 crypto shill threads. I don't really care.

>>53536390
i bought vix calls at close
that's... kind of similar

>>53536297
It's hard to argue the P/E, the P/B, and the current divy rate. If you consider the business model, they're buying into assets at a 10 year high return rate.

>>53536355
>Friday given we have the unholy trinity of GOOGL AAPL and AMZN reporting earnings after close.
thursday

Why is the nasdaq inversing the dow?

>>53536390
bought sqq on Friday and sold Tuesday morning

>>53536441
First year trading?

>>53536438
Hell yeah mothafuckas, I do bizness with some of 'dose companies

>>53536050
Generally correlates with the Baltic Dry Index, no? The latter's plunged in the last couple weeks so I'd be careful.

>>53536161
It's more like 7x normalized operating earnings at this point. Still cheap, but not insane.

>>53536438
I HAVE SEX WITH SOME OF THOSE CEO'S

>>53535570
He just wants attention.

>>53536421
>GOOGL
bullish, would love if they miss so I could buy more in the low $90s
>AAPL
mixed bag, slight bearish
>AMZN
mixed bag, slight bullish.

TSLA does operate in its own bubble, but I just don't trust Elon's judgement.

>>53536441
The answer is that NASDAQ was opened ((())), where the NYSE was still heavily US old money when it opened (even if the crews operating it are now ((())) ) . Companies listed NASDAQ were (((tech))).

>>53536438
I mean that Friday will be where we see the aftermath of how big tech does on Thursday (tomorrow).

>>53536161
Gatekeeping annuities? What garbage is this.
>shittier than Stratton Oakmont
Shill me your bull thesis or Ill dump the name of this boomer coom shitco and ruin your fun.

>>53536438
OMG I shit with some of those companies!!!!!!

>>53536390
There were plenty of SQQQ guys who got wrecked in the previous threads

>>53536225
kinda regret not going deeper into it myself, i'm only holding 15x LEAPS right now (that are officially ITM today) but i was also holding 500x shares which i sold for a tiny profit since it was too much capital locked into one ticker and that scared me
like i bought other tickers to diversify/derisk nd they're also up, but not as much as mr jackson was

oh well, soon my 15x LEAPS will hit a delta of 1 and will be functionally the same as ~1400 shares (minus 100 shares because no divvies lol)

>>53536433
Well fair enough. I can buy a position tomorrow or at some point... my TA system hasn't given me permission to buy (it was good 2 weeks ago, but it might be overbought at the moment).
Actually, based on risk it looks like it's about 96-102 shares for a position, so I might just buy a deep ITM call with 1Y expiry to have similar delta/risk.

>>53535569
>the great bullrun
In 3 weeks the nasdaq will be back at 10,500 and everyone in this general will be screaming that they should have sold the trap when the selling was good. All of you are way too emotional and never have a plan or any kind of damage control or hedging.

The market historically has been positive/nuetral to 3rd decades.

>>53536497
Is that Zuckerberg in a blonde wig?

>>53536496
i have no thesis man, im low iq

all i see is that it will eventually catch up to its peers within a couple years purely on the divvy yield and share buybacks
whether it can actually sustain these earnings (fueled by hedging and whatever shit) beyond my 2024 expiry is not my problem, especially considering how frontloaded these earnings are in the first place

>>53536520
zoom out retard

Apologize NOW. I demand APOLOGIES NOW!

>Left bagholding, now forced to patiently wait for a retrace

>>53536161
p/e means nothing for annuity firms lad.

>>53536390
i am bagholding sqqq calls and yes it hurts

>>53536580
Should have listened instead you were a greedy filthy glutinous morbidly obese bobo.

Trying to act cute like you are a Little BURRY. but you just end up looking like my dingle berry. Don't hate on me because you didn't listen to the man. This bull run will not be over not until we say.. We ain't here to hurt nobody!

>>53536466
have you compared yet how that metric compares with its insurance peers?

im too brainlet to filter through the 10-q, all i try to remember is to make sure i eventually trim and exit this position and not to buy back in after i do
i don't understand all these hedging shit, im just piggybacking on the fact that my cost basis is lower than some of the institutional buyers who obviously did their research if they're buying an obscure boomer company like this
plus at this rate, my position will naturally deleverage itself even without me trimming directly, feels good to finally be itm even if just momentarily before the inevitable pullback

Bears are 30 years early.

JACKSON FINANCIAL

bros my mom’s just started to give me back my money that i borrowed her i can finally invest now

META is up 20% AH. Good earnings apparently?

Really digging Mr Few lately
He was right about all this green
Pretty bearish last year too
Wrote some good papers

>>53536194
It's just JXN

do not buy natural gas yet
there is still too much going against it, storages too high in EU, china reopening commodity rally losing steam, coal is getting absolutely crushed
as long as coal keeps falling, natural gas will too
it's cheaper to produce energy using other fossil fuels than natural gas atm
EU is going to do joint purchases
we may have a move higher in BOIL to above $7 this week, based upon the huge number of $7 calls, but I wouldn't bet anything past that
more likely than not we continue falling until around august when the price moves higher
also chance that we move higher after end of april based on historic trends
it is very oversold on a technical level, but not on a fundamental level - there are massive surpluses of natural gas - EU will get out of this winter with potentially 2x storages of previous years - it is still very hot, and winter is ending
we will not see high natural gas usage until summer time when the unusually hot weather works in reverse and causes more air conditioning usage + filling up storages for winter

>>53536390
200 @ 40
I am down 10%

>>53536635
Not really, it was just a buyback.

>>53536496
speak, we need to hear insight. zoomies know not of bookkeeping with Win3.1
>>53536529
If we assume they're investing capitalization, they're still getting record high returns on notes, and if they're buying equities, were buying at the low of the generational dip, still are.

>>53536426
Wait why did you buy VIX calls after JPow finished his speech?

>>53536662
natural gas dumping this hard, and then people keep repeating that china reopening will spike crude oil up predictably has caused me to exit my last portion of canadian energy earlier this week (had already trimmed extensively on prior times)

i figured the peak of a commodity cycle isn't going to be obvious until it's too late, might as well take the big profits already have and just find other opportunities at this point

am i just a pussy? i felt a load off my back now that i dont have to deal with the volatility of oil anymore, now i can just buy shit that i can hold forever (luv me some BNS and CM and BMO to a lesser extend, will eventually collect the rest) and sleep better at night

>>53536695
I think he did explain it earlier, and I wish I had tested it. Glad I'll be able to watch this time and learn. He thought the market would over-react, and red tomorrow.

>>53536695
it's not an unreasonable assumption to think that the market was overreacting to the upside when we were close to close.

>>53536687
well if at my 2024 expiry they're still aggressively buying back shares and the float is choked as fuck, then i'll probably deleverage a small portion into shares

always on the look out for boomer opportunities like DDS where a completely boring business context somehow keeps getting pushed upwards because of sustainable share buybacks
and with the institutional ownership being 90%+ on jxn choking up the float, i expect some legal financial engineering bullshit to occur, most of them will probably keep braindead holding just because of that divvy yield too

>>53536705
i sold my oil in january of 2022 to take advantage of the collapse of tech. probably should have held until june, but i had gains of 350%+

i dont see oil stocks going much higher. My largest position was CNQ

shill me a water filtration system, i need high quality h20 so i can be at my best for trading

>>53536618
BHF is around 10x

>>53536760
ionize that shit bitch

>>53536748
how low can natural gas go tho? i mean after all it’s.. natural gas isnt it

>>53536611
wtf man what do i do?? do i sell and buy 1 week calls in tech?? the only thing i can see stopping this rally is CPI.

Next short term price target for the S&P 500 is 4250. It will approach this level in the next few days due to short covering panic. Now that 4100 has been surpassed the approach to 4250 is inevitable.

>>53536477
Good analysis. Overall I think the market bodes good things, short term. Google's layoffs might help (like they did earlier).

I don't trust Elon (fully) either, but I think the Tesla frenzy is real. It will hit $300 by June.

>>53536795
it can go negative

>>53536795
oil went negative. maybe nat gas can too. theres so much of it they just burn it off.

>>53536414
new paradigm

AAPL AMZN GOOG

The Nail in Bobo's Coffin

>>53536795
it can go to below $2.00 henry hub no problem
pretty difficult for it to go below $1.80 but not impossible

>>53536803
it will not hit $300 just on the basis that Elon would continually sell along the way up.

>>53536816
Amazon expected to post first unprofitable year since 2014 and worst loss since the dot-com bust

>>53536795
Imagine getting a chance to buy natgas for a huge discount so you enjoy the runup to winter.

>tfw took profit on my soxl at $12 thinking we would go back down a bit again

>>53536830

good idea, but stick with ung instead of boil

Days like this are why you don't try to time the market and be a hero

those rivian amazon vans putting around are kind of dystopian in a pixar movie way
something about the shape is unsettling

>>53536829
>low expectations
nobody gives a fuck. look at the shitty msft and meta earnings and they ripped

>>53536851
I think(hope) everyone who played today knew what they were getting into considering the past FOMC days were silly

>>53536830
I am just very doubtful that there will be this huge run up to winter
https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/drastic-shift-in-natural-gas-outlook/
>Assuming Europe does not experience a prolonged cold spell in the current heating season, the region should exit the 2022/23 winter with storage above 50% full. This is significantly higher than the 26% seen at the end of the last heating season and above the five-year average of 34%.
this is huge storage, for last year to be 26% and this year above 50% - 2x
they will only have to get from 50% to 90% by november, which will not be that hard to do, even with cargo redirecting to asia
I think it will move higher in end of summer, in anticipation of this move, but I don't think it will actually materialize

>>53536850
I'd rather just snipe the bottom on a few solid companies and just ride them up.

>>53536835
profit is profit

even i eventually got over selling gme for $40 while i was laughing at tinny for having sold at $20, only for GME to go $100 and then $400 in just 2 weeks
well at least i tell myself im over it but it's all just literal cope :)
every month i feel like i have to catch up (safely) because ive basically lost 500k+ from that moment of impatience, i thought the squeeze would be a ~3-day event just like all prior short squeezes, turns out it just hadn't started yet even after a +100% spike

i had an ounce gold coin my uncle gave me sitting in my drawer for 6 years. just happened upon it the other day and looked up the price of gold, not much different than what it was when i got it, although it did go up a bit in between.

anyway, i decided that was stupid and boring, so i sold it. after taking out $200 of big boy fun money and paying some speeding tickets, with the rest i decided to put half on red and half on black (tsla and mbgyy). now if id actually been able to buy tsla the day i decided to this, i wouldve had it at like $110 or whatever it was, but by the time i had an investment account set up and money in it, i bought it at $166.66. although thats metal, i was a bit mad about missing that big jump, but then again i consider it a good sign for my intuition.

Can intel turn it around and get above $50 by 2024?

>>53536890
addict

>>53536876
I know when I'm gambling and when I'm not
Today was NOT gambling

>>53536880
This kind of logic is why the stocks will be so incredibly cheap. Reminds me of the overreaction from shipping stocks until a few weeks ago.
The time to buy is when this kind of stuff gets priced in. I'll wait until summer though. Probably try to pick up some boomer companies like EQNR.

I was on top of the world just a couple weeks ago.

>>53536511
Hedging is for homos

>>53536827
But where is the proof, anon? Not trying to be argumentative for no reason, but this bullrun is very real.

>>53536890
Under that libtard logic you "lost" millions because you didn't buy BTC when it was cheap and hold until 2021. Man up, anon.

I lost trillions not timing the market correctly.

>>53536953
It's over.

>>53536911
Well, what did you learn?

>>53536929
i dont feel anything from btc because i would have never touched that
gme i was holding for months with the rest of smg through all the dips, i even had dreams where it went $400 because we were memeing it so much
so it hurt me a lot

like obviously im not down about it anymore, but i acknowledge that it was a huge mistake even at the moment, not just hindsight
nothing was stopping me from just trimming my position then rather than exiting entirely like a greedy fuck
man after hearing "average in, average out". looking up past examples of all short squeeze examples, etc all the bullshit confirmation bias DD smg did over weekends, i pussied out at the end

there's always more opportunities and i've been chasing them since then, hopefully i don't miss the next generational opportunity like that again

>>53536744
>that chart
That would be nice.

>OH YOUR PORTFOLIO IS UP? I THINK NOT! YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOWN TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T PERFECTLY NAIL EVERY SINGLE TOP AND BOTTOM USING MAX LEVERAGE!

>>53536978
I was in at $6 and missed the squeeze.
Some of the GME memes still used today were made by me.
I sold at $25.

>>53536976
I dont know, Im sure there are valuable lessons. One is to not try and trade constantly. Another is to not impulsively jump into trades based on tweets. Once I got to 70k I should have just boomer invested in something like Divvies and called it a year.

>>53536795
Whats the average cost to produce it though?

Sold my META bags last week

>>53537032
It's a byproduct of oil production so free

>>53537032
Zero. It's literally a waste product from oil production. All that fire you see them burning at refineries is leftover natgas

>>53536830
Is freeport able to export yet?

should I sell my gains if we open red today?

>>53537074
>freeport
Never forget Freeport 7

>>53537074
idk
I'm not a gas wizard yet. I'll work on that later. Right now I'm a shipping chad. I learn sectors on the fly with the power of extremely focused autism.

>>53537006
I owned thousands of shares of nvax at a couple of bucks per share and sold a year before the pandemic for like 5 cents profit each

>>53537070
>>53537061
False. It still has to be captured and transported.

I asked the commodities thread but that place is dead. Why are so many oil pipeline companies LPs? I've never seen one seen an industry with so many LPs before.

>>53536744
Vanguard, Apollo, Blackrock 1,2,3: 9%ish, 9%ish, 7%ish.
Growing treasury shares (makes damn good sense at this value) and it looks like they did print a small amount for salary, though I can't honestly say.
I would think at this point you'd prefer to offload treasury shares, but I guess small dilution could be a strategy to keep the books looking fatter while chopping small % to carrot the board.
I'm kinda pissed I passed on DDS back in 2019 cause I was trying to pattern and time. I guess I could say that about everything on the market tho.
>>53537061
Not really free. It's volatile, and a suffocation hazard. It has to be air-tight, at least mildly pressurized to avoid pulling air and moisture, and that requires special pumps, which have to be powered. While bleeding and venting isn't a new thing, you still have costs associated with the head care, transportation, and storage. It's not a stable fuel, so if you store it too long it breaks down.

>>53537089
>>53537090
Im probably buying freeport tomorrow to send brap gas below $2.

>>53536423
Lay off the adderall retard
Your equity goes to zero when corporations stop spending profits on income production to pay down debt

Your entire point about treasuries is moot because controlling the prices of debt has blowoff effects of controlling the demand for currency. Your entire argument seems to forget debt is money in a floating rate currency system.

Sorry brainlet, come back and try again when you can reach the discount window. Manlets are too small

>>53536978
Broseph you're stuck in gambler mode wondering "what if" and hoping your big break will come through luck. What you need to do is learn how to trade. Paper trade very liquid tickers like /NQ or EURUSD until you get good reading situations and patterns. You can then apply your skills to any chart, just don't overleverage.

>>53536978
I know the feeling. A while back I put $50 in to a penny stock I liked. It dropped so I put what I had left in it which was only $28. This was in my play account where I limit how much I can mess around with. Anyway it went down and down until it was worth like 12 bucks. I forgot about it. One day it went to a penny, then 2, then 3 etcetc. At the peak my $78 was worth over $8,000. I didn’t sell because I said I’d hold until a dollar. I had 30,000 shares. Well it went down and down and down until it was back to .004.
I never held a stock to the bottom again. But I kicked myself for so long. Why didn’t I sell the top? Why didn’t I put $1,000 in instead of $78? Am I a faggot? Should I kms?
It took a while to stop bothering me. I’ve caught plenty of 40/50/100%ers, but thousands % is hard.
I did make exactly 8 grand on shib a couple years later though so it’s all good.

>>53537085
We arent going to open red, dont worry. This FOMC was too stupidly bullish.

>>53537032
>>53537070
>>53537061
$0.32 mmBTU to transport it to where it needs to go
about $1.15 mmBTU to liquify it
gulf coast to europe is $1.20 mmBTU, to Japan $2.20 mmBTU
and this doesn't factor in production costs, only the costs to transport / liquify

>>53537006
yeah GME was my biggest win by far, and it was only then that i learned by experience that """paperhanding""" is most likely when you got a shit ton of unrealized gains to lose
meanwhile going -30% or worse, bleeding down gradually, is actually easy to be complacnet in holding through like a retard because of sunken cost

i learned my lesson from then and so when i rode the oil rally i had been slowly averaging in and then trimming out gradually afterwards throughout 2022 (sometimes buying back in on the obvious dips)
pic related was my gme folder lmao

good night faggots

>>53537085
>open red
Anon, I..

>>53537129
Chart fags are the PUA of the trading world

>Powell: We can now say, for the first time, the disinflationary process has started.
Oh no

>>53537111
maybe has something to do with a potential oil spill costing an assload due to public perception etc.
>>53536900
no. maybe by 2025 if you're lucky
>>53536876
sold my puts on the dip and loaded up more EoD, too easy

>>53537129
Oh shit it’s the real photo

>>53537129
i think my own experience just riding bullruns and derisking into safe havens in between seems to work ok
doing it right now, i'm only like 15% tech right now

have moved brokers since then but i've been holding mostly oil and now canadian banks since end of December so it's been pretty euphoric for now while i wait for a couple fun leveraged picks (jxn) to grow on a smaller portion of the portfolio

for more perspective /smg/, look at pic related
coal is still extremely high from a historical perspective - even with china reopening it is getting crushed
coal still has a long way to go to get back to historical levels - china also just restarted their coal trade with australia after the embargo which will continue to put pressure on it
if / as coal prices continue to fall, it will also put pressure on natural gas

>>53537117
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in Cash House, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret M&A in BRICS, and I have over 300 confirmed Hostile Acquisitions.

I am trained in gorilla equity buyouts and I’m the top day trader in the entire Fortune 500. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe your account the fuck out with efficiency the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words.

You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your Positions. You’re fucking Bankrupt, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can destroy your credit rating in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my Blackberry from 2007.

Not only am I extensively trained in options spreads, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the US Federal Reserve and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable portfolio off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue.

But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it.

You’re fucking flipping burgers, kiddo.

Bonds are important because theoretically you can create new money, and through financialization, you can then sell that money for even more money. Expanding the monetary base while retaining value is actually functionally more important to capitalism then producing share holder value, quantitatively. Sorry Milton Friedman and sorry anon

>>53536890
You would have sold before it got to 100 let alone 400 anyway

>>53537145
It's not really textbook TA, you just have to be aware of the context of the candlestick chart, gauge the strength and momentum of the candlesticks, and draw on your own intuition and experience.
It's not a walk in the park and takes years to get somewhat competent, but it's not impossible like the retards here claim.

>>53537193
Good copypasta, I saved it

>>53537139
Europe is currently paying $18 for mmbtu but freeport cant ship and they probably have a minor backlog still at ports. That is a very high premium to deliver for.

>>53537147
Stagflation still on the menu.

I really wanted the eurocucks to freeze this winter, what a disappointment

>>53537222
Thanks. I don't mean to brag, but there's some chance that I fucked around one night and wrote the original while drunk. But I may be misremembering. I used to do that kinda shit to flame people on boards all the time, and probably wrote shit like that at least twice a week for a few years.
Ahh, the Age before the Smart Phone.

>>53537205
yeah thats what i told myself too back then to get over it too and to just look for the next opportunity

fuck im running out of ideas though, after oil and jxn all i have left will be dumping my paychecks into boomer banks and index funds

So bet on APPL going up for earnings I guess is the move right? Everything's going up. I sold my carvana call too early yesterday I'm beTing myself up for.it.asni did wotj amd call.

In the last 11 earnings, MTCH has only beat its earnings expectations 2 times.

how can one company be so ass at creating accurate guidance?

>>53535782
Your doing it wrong...

>futures

>>53537117
You've spewed a lot of buzzwords out your ass, but once again failed to produce a meaningful post. Better luck next time. Like a monkey with a keyboard, over a long enough timeframe eventually you're bound to construct something meaningful.

>Your entire point about treasuries is moot because controlling the prices of debt has blowoff effects of controlling the demand for currency. Your entire argument seems to forget debt is money in a floating rate currency system.
This is just regurgitating what I've already posted, while pretending its some form of counter-argument. I've accounted for this in my analysis. Regardless of which direction the fed choose to control their 'debt', the system is headed towards collapse. Dollar up or dollar down, the end result is collapse. It's an unstable equilibrium, oscillating towards infinity, or infinitely worthless (zero). The fed would like you to believe that equilibrium will be reached, but that never happens. So you can play the current direction they choose, bet on their next flip, or you can escape this USD ecosystem entirely. Anyone can look at the charts and see the DXY pump and fade these past 6 months. It's not hidden.

Can't tell at this point whether you're full on schizo or just have some weird superiority complex.
I'll repeat one more time though, for your sake: Treasury bonds have no signaling value. They're a reflection of current policy. Nothing more, nothing less. There's no reason to believe whatever they indicate will actually come to pass.

>burry deletes his twitter
>mannarino activates his
What are the financial implications of this?

>>53537356
We need an emergency mid-week Rocker Update Special Report on FOMC

>>53536423
>Treasuries aren't even really bonds in the debt sense because there's no risk

>>53537364
>Rocker
Can't believe you faggots like him. He's literally worse than a tripfag. Faggots like him belong on reddit

>>53537290
I don't think it's a bad time to buy some of what ARK is holding. Net (((Tech))) has always been entertainment. For whatever Disney had on real-estate, and Hollywood had on studio equipment and permissible weather, there is not really the same limitation on the webs. Those are legacy wires and 'background' services that can carry Hollywood as efficiently as VOIP for mom to see her grandchildren, or Bollywood. There is some mild limitation on power consumption, cooling, and existing backbone.
Cash gang is high risk for two reasons right now, but the Fed still has like 8Trillion to offload, so I have no idea what to suggest. I seriously suggested to one faggot to start a meat growing factory, since we're losing so many to fires and market prices are way out of line with immediate costs on dozens of food types.

>>53537111
LPs like limited partnerships? Theyre structured that way for taxation purposes but I dont know the specifics.

>>53537105
Transportation isnt a production cost, but it is part of COGS

>>53537345
>or you can escape this USD ecosystem entirely
This sounds like an interesting side path. Please explain this quest?

>>53537383
Excuse me please don't be rude to my only friend

>>53537364
I'll definitely be including it this week don't worry, but I work middle of the week so no can do.
>>53537383
CRBP pajeet is that you?

Burry hasn't learned the final lesson. He assumed the market understands the situation as well as he does and is as reasonable as he is. The final lesson is that after you figured out what the market should do, expect the opposite to happen first.

>>53537111
They don't pay income tax on earnings because they're pass-through entities, so avoids double taxation for investors. Normal LLC gets taxed on earnings, then pays dividends out to investors, and investors are taxed on those. Same thing with a REIT, an LP (or MLP) only suffers single-taxation instead of double

>>53537428
His mind is in the right place but he will always be made to look like a fool when he tries to time the market fallout. Complete market is fake and gay, country is $32 trillion in debt, consumer debt is through the roof, wages have stagnated, inflation is through the roof. Everything will come crashing down, you just can't time it

One thing Burry probably doesnt do is go all-in with leveraged inverse ETFs like I did so I think I fucked up his plan from the start.

>>53537383
You dropped this.

Are gold miners going to have a bull run?

>>53537443
Why dont the richest companies help pay down the debt? The american people give money to the corporations so in a way it would be like the American people are paying down their debt.

>>53537428
I think he's too autistic to fully understand that.

>>53537458
This is so antisemetic

>>53537412
>This sounds like an interesting side path. Please explain this quest?
Buy EM equities, ideally. Focus on net exporters.

>>53537458
Banks are beholden to no goy.

>>53537458
Why do you hate jews?

>>53537449
Burry has managed to blow his account up before. Even he's not perfect

>>53537458
Thats called taxes and for every dollar the fed gov get their hands on they create $4 more in debt

>>53537455

They'll do well for a while but gold is no more immune to deflation than anything else. It will just drop less (probably).

The gigapump for gold only comes when the Fed stops trying to pretend it can force austerity. That might require JPow getting scalped by Liz Warren and replaced by Brainard.

>>53537345
It is a counter argument though. Real rates are implicit to understanding the currency - yield curve connection. If you peg rates while currency inflated, this will appear in real rates when you get massive imbalances.

Maybe ask yourself a question, what is the connection between bonds being money, and the volume behind buying cash? The argument behind QE/yield control being sustainable is that you see lower volume in treasury purchasing, imagine it as tiers of buyers and you are only selectively selling your cash to the highest bidders and turning away anyone who is going to sell early and dilute the value of your bonds. The loss you would take in paying out higher rates is then offset by the loss in growth by having less money overall.

Until we start talking about regulatory haircuts on corporate cash receipts and how they impact the general expansion of the corporate cash supply we are not using buzzwords bucko

>>53537383
this, avatar/tripfagging should be a bannable offense. any variety of individual notoriety on an anonymous platforms should have the individual ostracized. also, he's fat isn't he? fatties are sub-human.

>>53537458
Largely because of globohomo. If the US falls, it makes no difference to these massive companies. They'll just move their HQ somewhere else and continue business as usual. When one door closes, another one opens. If countries around the world were more nationalistic, this wouldn't be the case. So thank Klaus for that.

It seems like every lil nigga is talking about AI all of a sudden. Is this manufactured or real interest? Does SOXL win again?

>>53535611
>They're walking a tightrope of monetary policy, but at the end of the line there are only bad outcomes. They must make a choice.
No government in history has chosen to fix their monetary system by crashing their economy and deflating the nonsense away

For thousands of years, we inflate our way out, every. single. time

I wish you all good fortune in the wars to come

>>53537383
John is one of the most important members of the /smg/ family

>>53537505
both
AI has come a long way from fucking Cleverbot so there is a lot of genuine interest and people having fun

>>53537450
>>53537421
>>53537415
>post on an anonymous image board
>choose to not be anonymous
You guys fail to realize why the majority of us hate people like rocker. If you wanted people to acknowledge you as an individual go shitpost on reddit. Otherwise stfu and shit post anonymously

>>53537458
Are you a child? The debt is bonds, you can buy bonds and get a nice 4% pa return. Who in their right mind would say "no I don't want +4% I want -100%"?

>>53537500
>> If countries around the world were more nationalistic, this wouldn't be the case.
The fuck are you talking about? Capital doesn't abide by borders only the poor. Borders allow for the escaping of responsibility by those that can afford it. A one-world accountability system would provide that.

>>53537383
nobody likes rocker he just makes us feel better about not being complete failures at life

>>53537458
>Why dont the richest companies help pay down the debt?
Their shabbos goyim in the FBI will burn your children alive in the street before you ever threaten their wealth or power

>>53537532
>why the majority of us hate people like rocker
kek silly retard. Try not to seethe so blatantly in future posts. Also if you don't like me don't watch my videos and filter my posts when you see me.

>>53537536
How do they ensure 4% though if they are in 33 trillion debt lol. Sounds like a ponzi scheme.

>>53537421
>no can do
I'm sorry this phrase is rooted in racism and I'll have to ask you to refrain from using it in the future: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/common-words-phrases-racist-origins-connotations_l_5efcfb63c5b6ca9709188c83

>>53537594
By going 34T in debt

>>53537602
Spot on for a liberal rag like the huffington post. Got a good laugh out of that.

I found out an Indian student is cheating. I’m going to him expelled.

>>53537571
Why post on 4chan when all want to do is get attention? There's a difference between a shitposter and an attention whore

>>53537458
Reminder that the treasury allows you to chip in and do your part to pay off the national debt: https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/gift-contributions-reduce-debt-held-by-public/gift-contributions-to-reduce-the-public-debt

>>53537622
SIRS DO NOT EXPEL

>>53537622
excuse me that's racist, you need to respect other cultures

>>53537622

They're all constantly cheating it's just a question of how. It's literally just part of their culture like the chinks.

>>53537623
I couldn't care less if anyone "pays attention" to me or not. i make videos about stocks and the general, people sometimes make money off of my suggestions and I also document the history of this general. I've been doing this for over 2 years now. I literally couldn't care less how you feel on the matter. I love this community and as I said before, if you don't like me don't watch my videos and filter me. Not everyone is going to like me and that's to be expected, but seething over my existence is a waste of your time.

>>53537626
Do you get any incentives through that program?

>>53537594
You just print off more money. If we can’t bring rates nominally negative, then why not bring them negative in real terms.

>>53537644
>. I love this community
gay

>>53537663
Good one.

>>53537666
I'd expect that response from satanic trips

>>53537663
The satisfaction of paying your fair share

>>53537663
Well let me put it to you this way: what do 4chan janitors get in exchange for their time?

>>53537663
I'm guessing it's a tax right off

>>53537694
Nope. It's a gift above and beyond of what the IRS demands: https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/public/gifts-to-government.html

>>53537704
>>53537704
>>53537704

>>53537693
A competitive salary. In fact they deserve a multiplicative pay raise!
>>53537694
>>53537687
>>53537673
I mean if I could just pay my 80K share of the natl debt now and never pay taxes again hell yeah I'd do that. I paid 40K this year alone. Shit is nuts.

>>53537663
You get an award for being the world's biggest retard

>>53537666
>>53537683
nothing wrong with being part of a community. except for when that community stars wanting you to drink the koolaid.

>>53537716
>our lifetime
>our