/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>53532196
it isn't exactly clear what you're saying
are you saying the call for a nationwide $25 per hour minimum wage is too broad?

>>53532250
Essentially

>>53532250
having any minimum wage at a national level is too broad, let alone one as high as 25 dollars.

>>53532196
>claim to be happy living in chudland
>post incessantly about "citycucks" and "niggers"
>get upset and cry about shit happening in the city
explain this

>>53532596
Yes this is my point.

>>53532196
>Jew York makes living too expensive.
>city fags move to country inflating housing prices by continuously buying new homes.
>rural communities priced out of their own areas by niggers spics and immigrants that can't afford to live in their concrete zoo's
>repeat for every city in America

Yeah no you're totally right man.
Here's the real argument against higher minimum wage. Why be a paramedic when you can flip burgers? Why take that risk?

>>53532628
What a weird cope. It's literally undeniable this is true. I live in a rural area with many small businesses. (Even though city chucks don't think they exists out here.) They would not exist if there was a national 25 dollar minimum wage. The cities would probably be fine. But this will destroy the lines so many people that live in my area. Mr "party of empathy."

>>53532697
If their business cannot sustain wages that would mean the people working for them can sustain themselves then their business model is bad or greed centric.

>>53532697
>Mr "party of empathy."
i'm in my mid 30s. i've never voted and i never will.
>I live in a rural area with many small businesses
literally none of this is going to happen. it's transparently stupid pandering by a retarded nigger politician. the fact that you think otherwise makes me question your IQ.

>>53532196
Wtf are you talking about, explain that first
t. Rural Boston

>>53533260
someone reposted this screenshot on /pol/ and the dumb white nigger OP is getting legitimately upset about a tweet from july

>>53533260
rural Boston??

>>53533309
>a black queen tweeted

>>53533359
I just made it up. I live in Revere

>>53533398
dirty liar
I was in the Boston area for a long time but now I'm out in western mass

Only one major city in the US left where you can actually afford real estate.

>b-but you'll get shot
no you wont

>>53533410
How’s that?

>>53532196
It has a lot more to do with the government printing $8 trillion and circulating it into the economy

>>53533442
If you told me I was going to wake up every day in a nigger city, I'd pray to be shot.

>hourly "flyover seethes at citychads" thread

MANY such cases

If wages were higher in maine and there was more investment in small businesses (cut their taxes so they can afford to pay 25/hr) then more young people (not somalis actual young people) would want to live in places like augusta and bangor instead of moving to boston and new york shitty, which would be good for the longterm ability of maine to survive.

>>53533510
it's alright so far
i can afford to live alone and save money out here
it's a bit boring but i'm still trying to make friends

>>53533571
Keep thinking that. It's the most segregated city in the country (thats a good thing)

>>53532196
That's why minimum wage is set locally, except for federal jobs.

>>53533571
parts of chicago are genuinely really nice
you can get much nicer apartments there than in new york or boston for much better prices

>>53533717
Yeah just don't buy downtown. You'll get absolutely reamed by HOAs. (picrel)

Value is in the neighborhoods, especially the gentrifying ones.

>>53533750
>$330k
>1600sqft
looks okay
>$3143 monthly HOA
what the fuck

>>53533802
Yeah that was the most egregious example I could find. Building is probably falling apart

Most buildings it's like 100-400ish/mo

>>53533668
I just want to live in a Maine farmhouse built in 1892, raise a few hens for eggs, and feel like I’m better than everyone

>>53533941
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5lWfZwTwVY

This likely jewish man in Vermont has your answer.

>>53533750
>$3143 monthly HOA

wtf, does it come with a cute femboy maid to tidy up after me?

>>53534151
Sadly not. It comes with a big tit Japanese maid.

>>53533717
>>53533750
And if you're going to look in the neighborhoods for an investment, here's what I've come up with

Fully gentrified
>Lakeview
>Lincoln Park
>River North
>Streeterville
>Loop
>South Loop
>Old Town
>Gold Coast
>West Loop
>Wicker Park
>Bucktown (to a degree)
>Ravenswood
>North Center
>Hyde Park
>Kenwood
>Logan Square (could go lower category)

Gentrifying now
>Logan Square
>Ukrainian Village
>rest of West Town
>Avondale
>Pilsen
>Bronzeville
>Bridgeport (blacks/italians pushed out by chinese, interestingly)
>Near West Side (around Rush)
>EAST Garfield Park
>Portage Park
>Uptown (still shit and will probably never improve)
>Edgewater (similar to uptown)
>Andersonville
>Rogers Park

VERY early strages
>Little Village
>Humboldt Park
>Woodlawn (no meme, houses are selling here for 700k+)
>South shore (same as above
>Garfield Park

Will probably never gentrify
>everything else

If you follow the "next stop up the _____ line" way of thinking you can find some really good deals especially on multifamily. That's my next plan. The city is becoming whiter/richer and most population loss is on the south/west sides, aka the part of the city you see in the news all the time. Pic rel

>>53534207
isn't east garfield park still really bad?
i don't think i'd touch that area

>>53534242
new damen green line stop + west loop pushing further from downtown is eventually going to make that area nicer. I still wouldnt touch it

>>53532196
Boston....is for chiness/arab student coming from rich family. rent should be 10k min/month for all apartment there

>>53532196
Wait I thought they were fighting for $15 minimum wage. Now it’s $25? Where will it end?

>>53532196
>>thereby people in rural Maine must pay their employees 25$ per hour!
The fuck does this even mean, retard? If you wanna keep working for $10 an hour to spite the libs then go ahead. Holy shit chudcels are so fucking stupid lmao

>>53534207
Very accurate list. Good job anon

>>53533442
that's in fucking Boys Town, why on earth do I want to move next to the gays

>>53532196
Rural retards are completely obsessed with urbanites, and this thread is proof.

>>53534567
>all ruralchads live in a shitted up trailer with old auto parts strewn across the lawn
At least they own land kek

>>53534541
Probably good neighbors honestly. And safe. I don’t live there but would be a good option
>>53534507
Thanks. I’m super bullish on this city in particular long term

>>53534756
>Probably good neighbors honestly.
They will keep you up at night

>>53532596
$25 now is less than the $15 they wanted before covid.
Way less. $25 now is less than when $7.25 became the minimum.
The only way to fix this is with heads being 6 feet away from shoulders.

>>53534769
Ah yeah, good point

>>53534567
>look at this moron with his white family
>I bet he’s never been to a barcade!

cope seethe dilate

I have no idea how to explain any of these phenomena
all the numbers are made up anyway

>>53534567
Unironically kill yourself, faggot nigger.

>>53533398
hi anon

t. 5 minutes away from the beachmont T stop

>>53532196
The real problem you're referencing is >>53532679
>Why be a paramedic when you can flip burgers?
Eh, let's not pretend 90% of the population is'nt braindead, I'd prefer to keep Jaquesha out of important roles in society

>>53532754
but rural people can sustain themselves on less money...thats the point...property is cheaper, more people live with family, and more people have other ways to make money or grow food.

saying "some businesses will close" if minimum wage is raised too much isnt really the sad part. its that only a few businesses will close, but many will have to make do with fewer employees who have to work harder. that's harder on the body & mind in the long term, and there's also that tired workers make mistakes, which don't really matter when you're working at target but have deadly consequences in many rural & factory jobs.

>>53532596

Minimum wage should be $50/hr.

Yes rent increases because people some times riot. This makes perfect sense OP. Great powers of deduction.

cant live in manhattan but nyc isnt that crazy

boston is somehow worse which is weird because who would want to live in boston

>>53536456
oops, search is limited to $1600-$1800 by the way, so all of those dots are in price that range

>>53533442
imagine unironically living in chicongo

>>53532596
>25 dollars
>high
This will be the price of a dozen eggs by next year.

>>53532697
Not my problem

>>53536616
People should be buying 4 eggs at a time anyway. No one said you deserve 12 eggs

>>53532196
>pay their employees 25$ per hour!
wasnt this like 15$ a year ago

>>53533668
You’re actually retarded if you think young people don’t live in Bangor because they get paid more in Boston. It’s because the average young women want to suck 50 black cocks a day

>>53534363
No retard, I want to pay retarded fucks like you 10$ per hour because you barely produce 5$ of work per hour not 25

>>53534822
You’re an actual communist cock slurping retard wow

>>53532196
Massachusetts is the most expensive state on the East Coast. Not going to comment on New York City but upstate isn't awful and some areas are relatively opiate free.

>>53532754
it means that megacorps peddling shit made in 3rd world countries, with ultra-streamlined supply chains, shipping infrastructure, tech integration, etc. can crowd out everyone else, boomer. commies and anarchists = believe one-size-fits-all myths about money and economy = boomers, just as useful to everyone else as boomers.

>>53532777
> it's transparently stupid pandering
I live in St. Paul, MN, and they voted in some of the world's strictest rent control here last year. Already had to repeal half of it for not being possible without CCP-level bureaucracy, which we would have no money to pay for without taxing the white liberal boomers who voted it in in the first place. So now landlords are confused and developers are shaky. Even supporters are mad because 90% of "exemption" claims are being approved for lack of being able to enforce the alternative. Still not a good situation. Sometimes the bad ideas get through and actually especially when it's a "nigger politician".

>>53536609
>highest wages outside of coastal cities
>exceptionally low cost of living for a large city
>fairly low income tax
>easy to get around without a car
>everything you need is walking distance from your house
>tons of stuff to do
>great food
>pretty great people
>REALLY clean for a city
>great schools in the suburbs for later in life
What's not to like?

>>53533442
>no you wont
http://heyjackass.com

>>53538824
Yes, and?

>>53532679
I would simply pay paramedics more.
Not starving in America shouldnt be something only allowed for people with high paying jobs

>1 bed 1 bath
>$1,450 pm
>No tile kickers!

>>53532754
Holy fuck I'm beyond tired of hearing this absolute dumb fuck retarded shit. Just kill yourself child.

>>53541491
the market doesn't have a duty to support your inefficient business model which relies on slave labor. you've been out-competed, now cope and seethe.

>>53533260
If my only option was to live in Massachusetts I would kill myself. I'm not even remotely kidding. Basically California of the east coast, an absolute fucking shit hole. Idk how you fags do it.

>>53533637
Cali, NY and Mass are objectively the worst states in this faggot country

My pay should scale upwards if minwage goes up

>>53541510
It does actually. Now shut the fuck up and get back to work wagie

>>53532196
Have you seen the housing prices in rural Maine? I literally checked last week while interviewing for a job in Portland. It’s just as expensive as MA now sunny

>>53541675
i guarantee i make more money than you. i'm "working" from home right now. cope and seethe, small business boomer. your business will go under within the next 5 years, you will end up working in a wage cage, and you will be bossed around by a wfh corporate chad like me.

>>53532196
I used to live on Comm Ave and paid $4,800 for a 6 bed room 10 years ago

I checked the same place and it's over $10,000 now lol

Chinese lady kept our deposits too because she knew we all left Boston when we graduated

>>53532754
Obviously never ran a business. Also you're not the communist dictator of the world who gets to decide how peoples' businesses run. Also you'll never be a woman

>>53532196
IT IS AN INFRINGEMENT ON MY FREEDOM TO STOP ME FROM WORKING FOR WHATEVER WAGE I AGREE TO WORK.
SIMPLE AS.

>>53541035
I love this site
>lakeview east
Yeah looks like there were zero shootings here last year. The north side is as safe as ever lol, keep fudding though

>>53541598
I'd never live in MA but NJ is way worse.

>dude just move to the sticks
>what the fuck why are the chinese arabs controlling our top real estate in big cities

>>53542274
This is called unloading bags.
Cities are total shit holes and land is valuable. It can be made productive.
Cities are for losers and people that parasitically feed off of losers.
>price of eggs go up
>I have chickens and am now wealthier
The above applies to at least 25% of my rural street.
In the city you just boohoo and stop eating eggs or get poorer.

>>53532196
Rent is expensive because of boomer nimby zoning laws, not because of libtards doing… something.

The things that they think will solve high costs and inequality (greater state power and oversight over the economy) are ironically caused by that and make it worse. The state in big corrupt blue cities merely exists to pay lip service and gibs to its chattel voter class while keeping money and power entrenched in the rulership (which is why the rulership is unilaterally blue now).

>>53536456
Check the listing most of those aren't a private studio you are paying for, but one bedroom in 4-6 bedroom apartment and a shared bathroom with at least one other.

>>53535970
>I bet he doesn’t even have running water

FTFY

>decide to check rent in Amsterdam
>1200ish euros for a studio near the city center
>800ish euros a bit farther out
Euros literally can’t suffer

>>53532196
So, what you're saying is that you DESIRE to be in economic thrall to city-slickers.

>>53541598
Add Maryland and New Jersey to that list. Overpriced shitholes full of minorities.

>>53540985
>without taxing the white liberal boomers
Porque.
The answer has always been to Singaporeize. Nationalize multi-family housing, racial and income class quotas for every building.
>It would be very painful.
For Yu. (Yu is my landlord.)

>>53543244
>sociale huur
HAHAHAHAHA! If you're making more than ~50k you can't rent it. And given the size, it likely shares a bathroom with a studio next door.
"Can't suffer" my ass.
Those who choose to live in A'Dam deserve to suffer ofc, but you're a clueless mutt.

>>53543401
>When you live in a flyover shithole and sour grapes your way through your life
Maryland is the best of this country, conservative where it needs to be, progressive where it hopes to be, and moderate where it should be. It wraps our nation's capital in a hug and proudly wags its dick at our subs across the Atlantic. We've got fruited plains AND blue mountains majesty AND tons and tons of beaches.

>>53543555

Highest homicide rate above the Mason Dixon line

>>53532196
test

>>53543594
Nobody tell him.

>>53543453
Silence, dutchfag. It is quite literally IMPOSSIBLE to suffer in the netherlands. You can get a studio with private kitchen and shower (with shared toilet) for under €500 in Groningen, or a full studio apartment for €800. Even in the shittiest of shitwest states, $500 nets you a cardboard box in an underpass, and $800 barely gets you a room in a crackhouse with 8 mexican roommates.

>>53534541
gays make a neighborhood very nice

>>53539116
and you believe official inflation statistics lmao
cumulative inflation since 2009 is probably more like 80%

>>53543555
I'm from Maryland, nothing about it is conservative. The only redeeming parts of the state are dragged down by PG County and Baltimore, the "nice" parts of the state like Howard and Montgomery County are full of NIMBY democrats and glowniggers.

>>53541751
Lol no. I don't even have to work, I've already made more money than you will ever see in your life. Now get back to work faggot

>>53544030
>I don't even have to work
is that why you're upset and threatened over a prospective minimum wage hike? wouldn't want to cut into those profits derived from six figures a year in gross sales!

>>53543555
>Look at all this gay irrelevant shit we have here, Maryland is the best!
>I don't need no stinkin liberty!
This is top tier cope right here

>>53543833
>nothing about it is conservative.
The problem with the Foxiverse is that it has completely baked conservative brains. Imagine thinking that a state full of farmers and fisherman and military contractors doesn't have majorly conservative areas. They're just not as insane as the national GOP has proscribed conservatism to become. PG is rad and carries the state culturally; Baltimore is DC, 30 years ago, and if you don't see the opportunity I feel sorry for you; Howard; MoCo is a model jurisdiction, reasonably wealthy and educated people quietly and expeditiously contributing to society.

>>53544081
*PITUs in your face*
Define liberty.

>>53543766
You can get
>Rooms with shared bathrooms start at $555. Private rooms start at $700.
in Chicago: https://www.apartments.com/hyde-park-beach-chicago-il/l6qfrge/
And your net salary will be twice as high there than in Groningen.
It is literally ONMOGELIJK to suffer in the US of A.

>>53532196
>Explain this
lefties are stupid. There is nothing more to discuss.

>>53544080
I don't care if they raise it or not, that's you projecting your fantasy on me. I just hate hearing you neolib faggots taking about muh greed, muh market blah blah blah like you know wtf you're talking about. Anyway, if you make so much money working from home why do you care so much about the minimum wage?

>>53542186
Chicago bros, my gf got into med school out near Naperville but 2 years in, students basically move to Chicago. I’ve visited before and actually liked the city. Considering I have 2 years, I’d probably buy a place. What are the best value properties? Not sure if a condo is worth it with the HOA fees.

>>53544148
>if you make so much money working from home why do you care so much about the minimum wage?

because i'm not a slimy kike small business owner who needs to exploit others to make a living.

>>53534150
Vermont is New Hampshire if it was full of rich Jew boys larping as farmers

>>53544094
The government of the state taxes and blasts the farmers and fishermen in the ass with regulations, while the government's friends get to make money developing land to get more people into their counties. Charles County is no longer rural, Anne Arundel and Calvert are getting developed into suburbs of McMansions. Conservatives who live in rural areas of MD are wasting their lives busting their ass for a government that is actively involved in replacing them.

PG County isnt "rad" or cultural, it's where black government employees buy million dollar homes and sit in traffic on the way to strip malls.

The only thing saving Baltimore would be a high speed rail to NYC. Crime has gotten worse, even in "nice" neighborhoods because nobody is stupid enough to be a Baltimore cop anymore.

Montgomery County is wealthy because it's self served by government contracts, the only thing more wasteful than large tech companies are government contractors. Contributions to society include such valiant and noble causes like MRNA vaccine research. You're right about it being a model jurisdiction for the country as a whole, NIMBY democrats import Hispanics to work service jobs on un-liveable wages while they call the cops on them for being in their neighborhoods after dark.

>>53543766
>no son
>no huge trucks revving
>soon no farms
Sounds horrible desu. Good luck with the bugs.

>>53544449
>Maryland actually cares about its environmental and agricultural viability and takes proactive steps to protect it
>"Rural" != wilderness, much of the state is still rural despite dev
>Actual rural MDers will tell you how happy they are that they don't have to drive to Bowie or Towson for necessities, thanks to retail dev
>PG has National Harbor, an Olympic training center, NASA, UMD, Silver Spring, artists out the wazoo (both visual and musical), etc.; AA has Annapolis + its history + Naval Academy; also Merriweather Post Pavilion and Columbia Mall elsewhere, just off the top of my head
> MD traffic > everywhere else save maybe 1 snow storm every 6 years
>The thing that would save Baltimore would be to tax the ever-loving shit out of Howard and Baltimore County old money fucks who siphon wealth out of the city to do shit like build those McMansions you hate and McDonogh
Everyone I know from MoCo is Asian so *shru~g*

>>53544855
>national harbor
>silver spring
>fucking Columbia mall
>outdoor concert venue

Wow, a mixed use development area with chain restaurants and paid parking, NOTHING like this exists anywhere other than Maryland.

>tax the shit out of counties to pay for corrupt cities
Your opinions are proved wrong after some thought, but this one confirms on the base level that you're retarded.

>>53544131
>Chicago
Enjoy getting murdered. It’s better than just getting beaten, since the hospital bill (plus tip) would be too expensive to afford anyways.

>>53543555
Maryland is like New Orleans, without good music or food.

>>53545164
>National Harbor
Yes, actual successful mixed-use destination
>Silver Spring
If you don't understand why that area is a cultural center, you simply don't know culture
>Columbia Mall
Doesn't suck
>MWPP
Oof, you gave away too much trying to underplay it. Site of hundreds of legendary concerts; they use it for art exhibitions and installations too. Your silence on the other things is telling too. There're tons I didn't mention (and won't, they're already mad that I'm giving away the game). Suffice it to say, MD silently produces top-tier creatives, thinkers, athletes, musicians, scientists, artists, etc.
The only argument you could possibly have is that MD is imperfect because America is imperfect. It is. But it's one of the best places to live for regular people in this country. Not a slumlord dystopia like most of the Southern states, not a neoliberal designated "bicycle" for the state's rich like New York, Cali, etc., not a flyover purgatory like most of the frontier. Just right.
>tax the shit out of counties to pay for corrupt cities
>Implying the corruption is in the cities
The string-pullers thank you for your useful idiocy.

>>53546627
I bet this sounded clever in your head.

>>53532777
Checked, witnessed, seen, observed.

>>53543762

DC and Bodymore are like half of your state and disgustingly overpriced yet murder and jogger ridden shitholes with no end in sight

>>53532273
then you have to learn to communicate better

>>53544115

Not being a super-statist bureaucracy and tax worshipping cocksucker like 90% of Maryland. It's the entire state industry.

>>53543244
Our salaries are lower and we have half of that removed from our pockets by taxes. You have no idea how insane a €100k salary at 30 years old sounds here. My dad doesn't get that much money

>>53544229
Depends on where in the city you're going. You can get a 1-bedroom outside of downtown for less than 150k. Keep in mind IL property taxes are absurdly high so you want to keep that purchase price as low as possible.

>>53533637
Only Californians could take the most beautiful state in the country and turn it into the worst place to live.

>>53534207
Can I get a quick rundown on Logan Square and Lincoln Square?

>>53543244
In case you're an actual American and not a European LARPing, I'd suggest you ask Google how much 17sqm is in sqft (spoiler alert, the room in my basement where I keep my washer and dryer is bigger than that)

>>53547722
can't tell you about lincoln square/ravenswood because that's my target

I like logan square too though. good area that is very, very rapidly gentrifying. schools are shit though. Perfect for urbanites with no intention of raising kids. Definitely want to buy a small multifamily there. Picrel is a really good one

>>53547827
I like Chicago and I have family out in the suburbs, but I haven't really put much thought in moving there from Ohio. It would be nice to be closer to family, but I like where I'm at too.

>>53547944
It's not for everyone. But from this and another thread I mentioned, it's perfect for people who actually enjoy major cities. The suburbs are comfy too much worse of a deal if you're investing in RE.

>>53547112
Shut up faggot. It was clear to me. You're just a massive retard who has no comprehension. Faggots like you never argue the issue. They always sidestep, and talk about other pointless shit, like grammer, or their own lack of understanding.

>>53546939
https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/historypolitics/cleaning-up-city-hall-inside-baltimores-history-of-corruption/

What is it, you have to go back to O'Malley to find a Baltimore mayor that didn't have to resign from corruption? Those damn people moving out of the city because of drugs and violence must be at fault. Maryland is where half of the country's politicians live, it will always be corrupt and its working class citizens are at their mercy no matter what globohomo forced diversity art is propped up next to a barcade in Silver Spring.