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Sell.

holy shit a hidden tiger just flew over my house

There is a good chance we will pullback to 3848 before going higher. Very likely we have a pullback before we go higher.

Risk is back ON.

Only the FED can stop this bull run. Only...

I hate my job and want to get laid off.

Green By Open.

All in AAPL

>>53520001
this lil nigga doing thangs on the dance floor

>>53519979
For 2pm tomorrow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw

>>53520007
First start by getting laid. Any bangable coworkers?

As much as I want it to I don't think the market is going to do what everyone's expecting

jxn chads keep winning

>Futures

>>53519979
>BEAR MARKET LIKELY OVER
lol
lmao even

>>53520007
Fuck bro same. Then is have no excuses not to apply for a better job.

>>53520017
>doing thangs
so he be a bear is what you sayin'

>>53520043
good thing nobody pays for your opinions

i trade from the corner of my cum stained bed, the one I was conceived on.

Wait, INTCels are...based? https://www.semianalysis.com/p/intel-cuts-pay-for-employees-to-keep

Women have vaginas.

>>53520001
My dedicated analysis indicates a fall to 3400 is imminent. This will likely be followed by a surprise implosion in the financial world, and a collapse to 2600.
The S&P will not break above 3500 again for the next year after that point.

>>53520001

I disagree vehemently. I haven't seen nearly enough mumu euphoria yet. I know they have more retard strength left to really pump it up for a nice big crash.

We go to at least 4200 IMO and if they don't hit 4400 I'll honestly be disappointed. With the 2022 downward channel being broken they ought to be able to muster AT LEAST the same level of delusional optimism as they had Dec 21 high.

>>53520064
This is so fucken bearish.
If you're still in INTC then you were always meant to hold bags.

>>53520080
thats a cartoon

>>53520064
>the dividend stays

>>53520080
i don't know about this anon gonna need a chat GPT fact check

>>53520094
Trust me Indiantel employees are overpaid by 99% anyway

>>53520094
I just find it hilarious that Prakesh will have less money to send back home to his family so braindead people like Coke Boomer keep getting 50 cents a quarter or whatever.

>>53520080
>MayISeeIt.jpg

>>53520064
>Intel has cut an R&D center in Israel
Mossad bros WTF
Also lmao, they really never will drop the dividend

>>53519979
>BEAR MARKET LIKELY OVER

>>53520059
You will fill my orders and you will enjoy it

>>53520064
lmao
if this doesn't say it's over for INTCels I don't know what does

>wait for 1:59
>purchase spx 0dte contracts puts and calls.
>maybe 200 dollar contracts
>hold for bigly move up or down
>1 ends up profitable
What's the problem with this?

>>53519997
what colour were its stripes?

>>53520064
>Dylan Patel
The cherry on that shit cake

As for uranium urchins, it looks like Kuppy is taking a page out of Pierce Brosnan's book and talking about overfeeding: https://adventuresincapitalism.com/2023/01/25/on-inflecting-trends/

Personally I think the space still has months worth of crabbing left but who knows.

>>53520155
>overfeeding

>>53520064

>cutting the Jewish R&D
>keeping the Indians

Oof. Semis are an IQ heavy game, who the fuck is making these calls? If I was running that company I'd literally hire nothing but Jews. Can't hire chinks they'd leak everything to back to the bughive.

I will say this for Intel tho: they didn't make employees vax. I know because I applied there as I was working to dodge Accenture's mandate (who are possibly the most globohomo company on earth).

>>53520155
It's not going anywhere. Same play as gold and silver and bitcoin.

Anons, I don't feel so good right now...

>The most troubling information in the GDP report is the precipitous drop in real disposable income, which fell over $1 trillion in 2022. For context, this is the second-largest percentage drop in real disposable income ever, behind only 1932, the worst year of the Great Depression.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/gdp-report-reveals-ominous-great-depression-warning-sign-1932

Only an opinion piece but the savings and credit debt bubble isn't lying, fuck.

>>53520167
I'd never heard the term before when it comes to enrichment but that meme potential alone kicked up my willingness to buy a notch or two.

>>53520064
>>53520094
Got to keep in mind even with boomers selling because they want to collect their quarterly paycheck elsewhere, Intel would be repositioned out of so many high yield ETFs. Would legit crater the stock to single digits. Behind on the times, bad management, bloated, etc AND without a high yield? What's the point? Who would touch it?

>>53520172
Almost all big tech companies at this point are infested with Indians and Chinese upper management that do nothing but hire more Indian and Chinese workers

>>53520007
Take up a trade

>>53520173

Silver maybe. It moves with energy to a degree but it's mainly a hope that Utilities are going to panic that there isn't enough supply and sign a bunch of expensive contracts with miners in what is effectively a short squeeze.

Silverbugs are on the same train, hoping the COMEX has to stop dumping paper and buy bars again. Platinum will run 1st tho, but don't tell them that.

>>53520216
>Platinum will run 1st tho, but don't tell them that.
Is this based on something in particular? Inventory levels? Historical patterns? Some green revolution bullshit?

>>53520220
majority of Pt is mined in Africa and Russia. It is also being planned for use in hydrogen fuel cell batteries.
Bull case is *possibly* there, for people who can really flesh out the idea. Seems like it may be worth it, though.

>>53520220

No just inventory, shit's very low but I don't have the numbers in front of me. Literally any industrial could swoop in and clean the bars out all at once and set off a mad scramble.

Tough to get a pure play tho unless you do futures, and I don't. SPPP probly as close as it gets but palladium half of the fund will weight it down IMO. Also Sprott are mega jews I don't trust.

>>53520173
You think Gold and Bitcoin are not going anywhere? Silver I can understand but look at the price action of gold, let alone bitcoin, in the last like decade.

>>53519979
https://vocaroo.com/1jswIsxoQeBt

>>53520183
The article does a good job highlighting a lot of the bear perspective, especially when it comes to GDP.

But that "biggest drop since the depression" statement is... very semitic. We're not talking a gazillion people losing jobs and having to suck dicks for pennies. It's just that stimmy checks gave people a lot more "disposable income" for two years; which they saved and have now drawn down.

Bear Market likely over.

FOMC..so close..but so far away..

>>53520268
We are lower than we were before the stimmies. The economy is FUCKED

>Market once Jerome's decision becomes public

If burry just baited thousands of people to lose money tonight that will be the greatest meme for decades.

>>53520198
My friend's dad was a plumber. Relatively rich but he was an asshole and nobody liked him. Divorced in his mid 40s and killed himself.

>>53520251
Bitcoin could be used by Powel as an excuse to assfuck a trillion in Equity out of existence (or into Jew hands) while only a dozen or so accounts can manipulate the fake asset's price.

Literally every game on Wall St. is now 'slots', because there are no honest brokers left.

I cannot stress enough that the stock market moves 6 – 9 months BEFORE the economy. If you listen to the talking heads, or even to friends and family, it is amazing how bearish everyone still is. The one year downtrend channel has now been broken. Did you know that the S&P has gained almost 17% since the October low?

Another fun fact, “if” October turns out to be the low for this bear market, then it will be the 7th out of 14 bear markets that have ended in October!

And a reminder of the relationship of the Market vs the Economy, and where we are now. If you wait until the recession, the market will already be much, much higher.

Bear market likely over.

>>53520309
March '09 I bought SSO

People thought I was bat*shit*crazy

I think I gave ChatGPT schizophrenia

>>53520309
how does this coincide with the touted fact that the economy doesnt see the effects of rate hikes until 11 months later or whatever the number is? has the market already priced in the effects of the rate hikes even though it doesnt even know what it will do to the economy? is a bear market due to raising rates, which cause a recession really only going to drop the market for a single year, and only, what? 20% off the SPY? idk the number but it doesnt seem like much.

>>53520320
>>53520320
A Q3/Q4 recession, as indicated by the yield curve shit, would suggest we bottom out during one more leg down in the next few months.

Complicating that is the inflation shit - so not clear whether we get a new bottom in nominal terms or only real terms, but I wouldn't count my bulls before they're born.

>>53520183
Getting real sick of these
>Not seen since the Great Depression
>Not seen since 2008
>Not seen since 2001
statistics coming out. Either crash and burn the whole thing or stop noticing it.

There is a giant falling wedge on the S&P. took over a year to build. Target is 5000 on the S&P.

>>53520268

The reason for the comparison to the depression is that money supply is actually dropping, which the Fed has never allowed to happen outside of the depression, because it's what PUT us into the depression. In one sense such deflation is the very definition of a depression, although this time has been orderly with no major credit blowups. Also: they have a safety buffer in the form of the RRP this time. They can definitely arrest the collapse if it accelerates.

Still there isn't nearly as much pants-shitting about M2 falling as there should be, and nobody who understands the significance of money flows on assets should be bullish while this remains the policy.

This is why I spent 10 minutes today photoshopping a retarded mumu. I'm trying to help them really. I just want them to understand how fucking stupid they are.

I'm a homosexual male that like to rub oil on myself naked and roll around like a snail

>>53520322
S-sensei Dwyer?!

>>53520341
We are in a secular bull market. 2000 was the start of the secular BEAR MARKET. Last year was a cyclical bear market inside of a secular bull market.

>>53520064
Remind me again WHY they keep hiring so many 3rd world workers like Indians for jobs that require people to be smart as fuck??? That shit got them to where they are at right now, idiots.

>>53520349
>Still there isn't nearly as much pants-shitting about M2 falling as there should be, and nobody who understands the significance of money flows on assets should be bullish while this remains the policy.
I get that. But personally I'd say until it's -2%, or, like, -10%, we're not in "depression, world is fucked territory". A -0.2% tick down is a stone's throw from the data in the early 90's or the late 40's recessions.

you didn't buy calls right anon?

>>53520359
It's more because they are sponsored by the corp to get citizenship. They are trapped at that company for a decade.

FED follows the 2 year treasury. Fed is about to pivot really really like really really really really really really really really soon. PIVOT as in PAUSE not CUT. Cut is when bad shit happens. Don't hate on me cause I'm just sharing the facts. If you see me on the streets on run the other way. This run will not be over until we say. WE AINT HERE TO HURT NO BODY!!!!! WANT TO SEE THE MARKET WORK YOUR BODY!

>>53520384
>Literal wage slaves

>>53520359
Hire ups getting complacent and figuring the moat made by their smart people could be upkept by dummies. BA really is the hallmark example.

How does the mind of a jew operate?

Post your music for the coming crash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfD6V8b1zco

>>53520402
Khazar MILKERS

>>53520403
https://youtu.be/VM7TpVWvJqM

>>53520301
if i were jerome i would pull a shifty 50 beps just because fuck you thats why, smug cunts with their 99% odds even when cpi is going back up and we're staring stagflation in the face
nuke em jerome

>>53520373

Check in trading view not w/e that's from. You also need to subtract RRP and TGA as these are money sponges meant to suck cash away from other things.

To resume the prior trendline, it would get us back to average 2-3% over the long term (and it's like 2021-22 never happened) but that implies pending deflation nearly equal to the inflation we had. So if we hit 9% from the M2 spike, we'll get solid negative CPI prints of several percent with M2 doing this. Equal and opposite reaction.

>>53520342
That's the thing we don't know the future, but, also media companies have to line their pockets some how.

>>53520403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVmulgEdrQk

>SELL

>>53520440
Hate Trading. Revenge Trading. Market Evil, You Good Trading. Market is not evil and you are not the hero in the big short movie. All of these trading mistakes is showing you are a prideful trader with no real skills or mental fortitude to become a successful trader.

Pride of opinion create problems and brings destruction to a peaceful mind. Like, when markets are rallying, dogmatic investors will often insist on maintaining their losing positions, even though the actual evidence of price action shows that facts have changed. A person’s ability to modify an opinion after conditions are altered was noted as a key determinant in judging his trading career in the Financial Markets. Anyone who holds strong views in total falsity to what is actually going on around him will certainly run into trouble.

spx 4150c 0dte do it anon you know you want to

>>53520402
god i love big jewish boobies

>>53520355
Here I cleaned up that image. I made the original crappy cut and paste version and always wanted to make it look better.

is FOMC before or after market open?

>>53520497
here ya go

>>53520440
If I were Jerome I'd say we're hiking until McDonalds brings the dollar menu back.

>>53520403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hqvjyUEjjA

>>53520503
notes at 1pm cst, presser starts 1:30 cst

>>53519971
No I'm sore as a mother fucker today. Shows how out of shape I really am.

>>53520532
self destruction > self improvement

>>53520444
You can also get back to that trendline with a year or two of recession with 0% M2 growth (however you want to count the sloshing in TGA or RRP balances - remember, money market funds and the government also had balances those other times I mentioned). Worth keeping an eye on, but depression with -10% M2 isn't some Newtonian guarantee.

>>53520508
I wish I still had the source assets for this webm, I'd edit it for "Eggs"

A lot of investors are overconfident and think they know better than the experts or even the market. Just being well-educated and/or clever does not mean you wouldn't benefit from good, independent advice. Also, it doesn't mean you can outwit the pros and a complex system of markets either. Many investors have lost fortunes by being convinced that they were better than the rest.

Prices will never come back down. They may stop rising, but theyll never come back down. We'd need negative inflation for that to happen.

>>53520554
looks like we found the greater fool

>>53520500
memeworthy
would love to see Jackie Chan 'Fight The Fed' (and win)

>>53520403
>https://youtu.be/PKrng0iG6KY
BRING IT DOWN

>>53520554
Thats why i just listen to Michael J Burry, one of the best investors in the market.

>>53520500
Nice, replaced the other version. May your portfolio be blessed with new highs.

>>53520560
That's god DEFLATION. CPI is a lie anyway, numbers are cooked and fake and does not reflect the real economy.

Index fund investing makes Jews seethe like no tomorrow.

>>53520504
If you're not investing to get a Ghislaine-tier waifu, what are you even doing?

>>53520564
>>53520569

One study analyzed trades from 10,000 clients at one discount brokerage firm. The study wanted to ascertain if frequent trading led to higher returns. After backing out tax-loss trades and others to meet liquidity needs, the study found that the purchased stocks underperformed the sold stocks by 5% over one year and 8.6% over two years. In other words, the more active the retail investor, the less money they make.

>>53520560
Look, either we soldier on through a decade or two of -5% deflation or keep going all Weimar then rapidly deflate with a total currency reset.

The latter is likely and what I'm ready to invest through, but I think certain groups would prefer the former.

>>53520580
They literally had to wipe all of fucking porn-hub just because of Hunter Biden. Not saying I approve..., but that is one mad fucking lad!

>>53520547

Yes, they could just hold it flat through early 2024 and we would just crab for a year. That would be a soft landing and It's doable I agree, but it's not the trajectory they seem to be on to me. It looks like they want a harder landing and resume M2 trend mid-23. Either way, no cause for bullishness.

If they start shopping the "maybe 3% CPI is OK akshully" thing around again, then I will say it's time to buy. Until then I will continue being a buzzkill.

>>53520403
>>53520403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t05G0983BcI

>>53520532
I'm disappointed John chan.

>>53520640
Ah man you just hit me some serious nostalgia. Long rides in the car with my mom playing this album in her Nissan. Why couldnt I be young forever

>>53520187
Bill Ackman. He wanted Netflix but the real win would be Intel. Fire all those poojeets. Not the pa ones, just the poos.

>>53520403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHOVJINRD8

I can't wait for JPow to say pause and every bobo is vaporized

>>53520403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntPeHC8z1Og

>>53520607
I like the 38-39 chart
>"has he gone too far?"
>1940 rolls around
>nah lol

Take the offical /smg/

https://strawpoll.com/polls/PKgl3zj41np
>https://strawpoll.com/polls/PKgl3zj41np
https://strawpoll.com/polls/PKgl3zj41np
>https://strawpoll.com/polls/PKgl3zj41np
https://strawpoll.com/polls/PKgl3zj41np
>https://strawpoll.com/polls/PKgl3zj41np
https://strawpoll.com/polls/PKgl3zj41np
>https://strawpoll.com/polls/PKgl3zj41np

>>53520685
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsyUa63NM1E

>>53520284
Not using a log chart dipshit

>>53520685
Damn, this is good.

why is the forest so fake and gay

>>53520718
hidden tigers

its a trap get ready for the rug pull, you'l be playing weimar soon enough once saudi dumps you, the only, ONLY reason any of this dog and pony show went to town is because of your little petro dollar shenans, which is bazically over , get ready to screw and eat the pooch

>>53520674
i think he'll do a few more 25bp and then call it quits. they have mostly been doing what the market expects short term

>>53520582
I don't recall the source of the original tale, but a guy studying the highest-returning portfolios of a particular firm had noted that said clients all had one thing in common. They were deceased, and therefore hadn't made a trade in several years.

>>53520718
Shit leopards, Bobandy.

mid and large cap biotech faired better than the market during last couple pullbacks dontcha know, so go ahead and buy some CPUH and CPUH/w and pray they DA with me.
or you could have opened XBI leaps like me @70

>>53520693
Crab market

>>53520403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HORLJvUMs08
>>53520568
Actual kino.

It is not surprising that essentially all of the GDP growth of 2.1% in Q4 was over inventory growth. And let me tell you it was NOT inventory for Christmas. Buddy of mine is on several boards for manufacturing companies in America and Europe. I talked with him today and he dropped a bombshell today; All of them built huge inventories back in Q4 in preparation for factories closing down.

Take that info with what you will.

>>53520824
wew lad

>>53520268
>We're not talking a gazillion people losing jobs and having to suck dicks for pennies
oh really? look at any major city and the absolute explosion in homeless population in the past 5 years. Its not like during the great depression every single person alive was left destitute. There were less railroad hobos per capita then than there are homeless tent people per capita today.

>>53520824
Sounds like more pain incoming but at least if you pick the right manufacturer's stock the number will go up

>>53520654
Don't worry as soon as I'm not cripplingly sore I'll be back at it. First time is always the worst.

>>53520824

Lots of signs brewing re: Taiwan. What I'll do with it is: YANG, DUSL, DFEN, MEXX.

Not now though. I think we'll get warnings and if you're tuned in to the schizo frequencies you'll know in advance, just like the WuFlu. Maybe that will finally redeem Intel tho huh?

>>53520403
Komm, Susser Tod.
>it all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down

>>53520824
I see euro factories shuttering since they're sanctioning their main source of raw materials. US factories I am more skeptical about. This would mean more China embargoes or Xi deciding to shut it all down again.

>When an /smg/ anon actually makes it.

>>53520403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX2dse0c3L8

>>53520894
I don't get it, but I prefer brunettes and I want a Bentley.

>>53520756
>>53520756
It's Probably what he's going to o but it isn't what the economy needs. We need another economic shock. We need another vulkner.

>>53520916
>proxy war with Russia
>entire image of US and US industry on the line
yeah, well, I can't imagine where you'll find one of those

>>53520374
I bought ours Monday and sold them today. I am getting chopped to death.

>>53520916
i think he's aware of what may need to be done but wants to do it more gradually. He's afraid something will break because of the debt market and how long rate rises take to actually move through the system. These current rate hikes haven't really been felt yet, like just in the example of cars lots of peoples leases are still active from 0% rates and when they go to re-lease their car and that 300/mo payment becomes 600/mo they're going to shit.

>>53520907
he thinks that when an anon makes it they'll all of a sudden want a roastie and stop lusting after cunny
weird take

is throwing money into YINN and just forgetting about it for a few months a bad idea?

>>53520938
>go to re-lease their car
That's funny. People are gonna have a conniption then realize they can still buy a 2009 Honda for free.

>>53520955
Can't have YINN without YANG

>>53520963
buy a 2009 honda for free? that a typo or am i too tired?

the people with financed cars that kept getting stepped up are going to have a rude awakening too, to buy out their shit it's going to be more than the car is worth by far

>>53520971
Do you know what an exaggeration is bro. Also maybe that will make the price of used cars go down when everybody suddenly tries to sell their 2017 Mitsubishis.

Now they can buy that Honda for free

>>53520685
>>53520403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXE_n2q08Yw

>>53520978
oh, i understand now... yes, i've just been awake for a long time.

I'm curious what will happen with the housing market too. I've noticed some more stuff up for sale in my neighborhood but prices still seem stable. I don't think people are in as bad of shape as 2006-9 but it'll be interesting anyways.

Fucking kek! Imagine being so terrible with money that even when you make 6 figures you still love paycheck to paycheck.

Rolling for 50 bps

>>53521023
Imagine not earning over 6 figures in 2023 lmao

>>53521041
if digits then .50

>>53520971
>>53520978
Do you guys have experience with used cars? I'd like to wait for their prices to go down in the following months, but my father says used cars are always a bad deal that will begin taking money out of your pocket when, after 2-3 years, they start having problems.

>>53521042
I guess it's a 2 way street. If I made 6 figures I would genuinely be retired by now at age 35

>>53521047
You buy a toyota with low miles. The car lasts forever and parts are cheap.

>>53521063
The problem is used toyota or honda is not cheap. Especially not with low mileage. The used market has come down a hair but it's still ridiculous.

https://voca.ro/1n0LusmCi4DJ
https://voca.ro/1gxqVvPaIfRu
https://voca.ro/1c7BHBbX8HQ2

>>53521063
My first car was a '88 toyota camry. I sold it with almost 200k miles on it. That car was still on the road a decade later. Car was indestructible.

>>53521069
Idk I spent 12k on a 2011 camry with 87k miles. Seems like a good deal to me. Car will probably outlast me.

>>53521023
In shittyfornia 160K is middle class

California just merked its NIMBY zoning laws. Short any companies or REITs still dumb enough to be based there.

https://darrellowens.substack.com/p/ca-cities-to-lose-all-zoning-powers

>>53521047
well i have no crystal ball i just think they will come down, i mean it makes sense that they would because it costs more to finance them, anyways.

used cars are fine, just buy something that has a good service record and that they made a ton of so if you have to get it fixed it doesn't cost a ton. avoid expensive part cars like bmws and mercedes and stuff.

>>53521079
yeah that thing will probably run a really long time and it's not super expensive to work on or get tires, etc for.

>>53521080
If you're making 6 figs in california that means you work in tech, and if you work in tech, that means you can WFH, and if you WFH you can move to a more suburban part of california that doesn't cost as much. There is literally no excuse

>>53521095
Getting out with those types of losses is frankly nothing compared to the idiot cultists that are diamond hands holding 3 figure shares.

if rates keep going up might as well keep them in comfy t-bills and then as soon as they drop pile it back into the market

>>53521023
Most of those paychecks require living somewhere where a one-bedroom apartment costs 40k/yr. Taxes take out another 20k. Food 10k. 401k savings 10k. Only leaves ~20k of annual spending money, which gets burnt quickly because they all feel like 100k is a lot.
In reality, 100k in those regions leaves you worse off than 60-70k in a more rural area. But the real economic winners are the WFH tech bros making well into six figs working wherever.

In the end though, does it really even matter? As long as they're passively saving for retirement, and as long as they avoid going into debt, it makes sense to spend money and get some enjoyment while they're young.

moving to Utah to make $95k/year. feels nice

REALLY tempted to YOLO my remaining cash reserves into SQQQ

>>53521041
>>53521045
100 bepises

itt people unironically think bull cycle started on October lows trading on hopium everything will be fine like fed pause, inflation going down, consoomer strong, jobs market strong, companies growing,..
mumus are the dumbest niggers

>>53521183
Stay fucked bobo

>>53521183
Michael Burry just activated rare "sell" signal.

>>53521183
This is also before considering that we're in tax season and february is usually a sell-off month. I swear every single bull is either a moonboy that bought soxl last year thinking they were 'buying the bottom' at 50 bucks and are now way underwater.

Like
The market has barely sold off from the top and we've got the worst economic conditions in a generation. But this is before considering we pumped into an FOMC the day before Googl and Apple and Amazon all report worse earnings than last quarter and last year and then crap jobs data on friday. Seems like the most obvious setup for a fat violent dump.

>>53521197
new tweet?

>>53521132
>In the end though, does it really even matter? As long as they're passively saving for retirement, and as long as they avoid going into debt, it makes sense to spend money and get some enjoyment while they're young.
That's retarded. If you're young go deep into debt because once millennials become presidents they'll vote to pay it off collectively and all the people who were frugal will seethe at techoids getting freebies. Bang chinese chicks when you're in college, japanese chicks at the olympics (yeah I know they were canceled) and ukrainian bitches in your 30s once russia liquidates that country and they all flee west.

>>53521213
desperate bobo is losing it all

>>53521183
did u know markets bottom before the economy/jobs/earnings bottoms?

>>53521212
because of this stupid pump I needed to cover some shorts on current prices which I know are absolutely retarded overpriced horseshit positions but Jpow probably fucks it up during press conf and comes over as complete retard so market can do another leg up on whatever signal word they think is bullish
god I hope we have a limit down day together with bad AAPL + GOOG + AMZN earnings on Thursday to finally crush those hopium traders

>>53521231
Buy

>>53521231
He added a period, that's how you know it's serious.

>>53521275
He always does that.

>>53521183
THEY'LL FIND OUT TMRW

goddamn it's cold out

>>53521255
>PIVOT SOON, INFLATION OVER
>mf eggs are now 10 dollars a carton in some places

>>53521095
This is definitely not as bad as the person who lost 60+% after holding for nearly 600 days

>>53521287
Quality tweet.

>>53521302
Yes

>>53521310
Yeah.

>>53521302
i wish it wasn't so hot where i live but i'd rather have the heat than brutal winters. winter is comfy until below 40.

>>53521315

>>53521287
Oh OK, it's just autism

>>53521243
>1958 fed cut interest rates 3%
>1974: fed cut rates 7%
>1982: fed cut rates 1.5%
>1990: fed cut rates 1%
>2009: fed had already cut to zero for several months
>2020: fed cut rates 1.5%
if only there was a simple pattern people could use so we could stop arguing about when bottoms form.

>>53521302
Nuh uhh

bank niggas..........its literally our turn

>>53521330
Apparently the cuts are when the worst happens but in this market idk anymore.

Burry said to sell. I'm out

>>53521315
I've seen his measurements.

>>53521369
sex

Yields...

This is Burry after reading Malazan books. In 5 years we will look back on this as the single most important tweet for markets

>>53521378
Is it improving?

>>53521388
Yes but slightly.

Cramer-sama your kung-fu is no match for my bear fist. There can be only one victor. You have no idea how much strength I have. HIIIIIYAAAA

>>53521313
>>53521317
>>53521349
We michigan bros just deal. Cold is a way of life.

https://youtu.be/aktLRiWXfqg
https://youtu.be/aktLRiWXfqg
https://youtu.be/aktLRiWXfqg

>>53521388
>>53521404
>uninversion is improving
L to the MAO

>>53521404
5% interest, nearly risk free. tempting desu

>>53521378
The bottom won't come until this kawaii maid has her ass on the ground and her legs in the air. We've got a long way to go. No use holding stocks now, holding short term treasuries the obvious play in 2023

>>53521415
john-chan i saw some stouffers at the store and thought of u

>>53521430
In my city:
>airports jammed
>restaurants packed
>hotels booked at high rates
>houses still high as fuck
we aren't even in the "little bit of a gully" period yet. negros are just figuring out that their credit cards are maxed out with 20% interest and porsche still can't keep up with 911 deliveries.

I'm in a funk, /smg/. My youth is gone, my hair is falling out, and I have multiple chronic illnesses (really just one illness, but affecting me in different ways). I have a decent job, but they treat me poorly and I have to work ridiculous hours. I look at the future of this country, and best case scenario I see us becoming an impoverished second world nation. My last remaining hope for the future died in 2020.

>>53521453
well, if its any consolation, youre not alone in your feelings or struggles.

>>53521453
find a nice girl and make babies, joy comes from having a family

>>53521466
Yeah, I'll get right on that.

>>53521442
should have bought

Everyone is snug in their beds, dreaming of the big day.

>>53521497
i fell asleep at 10 but woke up at 1am super hot and can't fall back asleep. i think i'm constipated :(

will home interest rate go down to 3% again?

>>53521505
what part of "you will own nothing" did you not understand?

>>53521497
I think I'm just gonna ignore the market today and come back tomorrow.

>>53521505
the will reach 18% as in the 80s
have fun refinancing

Ok i've decided that I have a new goal for handouts for hamchads. If I get the $3k goal, i'm going to do a full elvis cosplay singing to scoopsies as a reward. I eagerly await your donations.

>>53520216
This general consistently turns it's nose up at silver, I should write a DD like TheHappyhawaiian but then I realized idgaf about y'all that much. Silver has multiple strong catalysts which are all aligning and it will *send* one day. It's such a fucking easy play, just buy physical silver.
You can still be doing the usual smg shit like listening to whoa black betty man and Christian Bale.
But just have a little stack of silver for that day. The amount you need to spend is negligible. Just dump 3k on it.

>>53521579
We will not buy any horse mining stocks. No matter how nice an ore sorter you got.

>>53521570
>tff I failed to make it before normal houses were a million plus dollars at 18% interest.

>>53521596
Learn to read
*Physical*
I don't own mining shit myself faggot

>All the analysts predict a 20-30% increase in a particular stock by the year end
What's the catch? Or are analyst predictions bullshit? Outside a financial collapse, I don't see any reason this particular stock won't perform

Which indices reflect the real estate market?

>>53521368
I love Burry and I think he's a genius. I was with him all the way, but I can't see what he's seeing right now. We're in the goldilocks.
If Amazon and Apple earnings shit the bed coupled with suprise buttsex from the FOMC, then maybe - but personally I can't see any structural instabilities which warrants getting crazy about.
Imo, we're gonna have a soft pump going until november with a few small bumps along the road.

I'm leveraged up and ready for tomorrow or later today as it were. Went to be early because my family was being annoying but woke up early and can't go back to sleep now.

>>53521655
nobody knows, but imo the risks right now are pretty high. recession chances are bad. i have some money in equities now but i've mostly moved into t-bills.

>futures
Christ all mighty, my shorts are getting destroyed. What the frick happened to my red?

>>53521675
people think there is going to be a 25bp hike and therefore jpow is buckling and slowing his roll.

>>53521691
>>53521675
https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html

>>53521691
I thought the market was pricing in the pivot?

>>53521675
The bottom was in October. Any dip is a bit. We are going to new highs so you can buy here, hope we dip and risk missing 3-5% gains this week and then hope we dip back to 4100 on the S&P at some point later this month or sit and miss the next leg higher and FOMO in once it’s abundantly clear to even the retards here that the bear market obviously ended last year.

>>53520080
yes

>>53521712
pivot doesn't mean immediately dropping rates, if you look at the yield curve you can see what the market thinks about timeline sorta. they are calling his bluff. either the market is wrong or the fed is, one of the two. i guess we'll find out.

>>53521712
Who is making up all these retarded pivot narratives? Who???

>>53521721
>that the bear market obviously ended last year.

>>53521737
((()))

>>53521733
But the curve is inverted, no bueno

>>53521737
depends who you ask, but, mostly people feel political pressure will cause the fed to lower rates as soon as things get a little painful. i think where they are misguided is that it isn't painful yet at all, like we haven't seen any big effects yet. it takes time.

>>53521570
If you buy can you refinance mortgage?

Coupang jumping into a profitable year. Screenshot this because this company is going to have a 100B market cap by December, 2023.

>>53519979
If the algo pickcs up your sells and it is good shit it will move to another level.
Unless it's absolute shit and then it runs on some wierd shit and then dumps after you fomc.

So it appears.
>So it appears.

Is Coupang a good stock?

>>53521764
If people don't take the fed seriously this could be a problem down the road wich leads to even more pain. I suspect whoever spreads those pivot rumors directly profits from high interest rates. kek.

>>53521762
yeah so people think rates will be less in the future

>>53520007
I hate my job, but I want to fuck my boss.
some money never hurts, stop whining like a pussy, or at least do something useful and try to use your salary for some shit, even memecoins like vinu can help you to stop crying

>>53521655
The structural instability is the money not flowing

>>53521782
>>53521793
This board has IDs bro

>>53521813
don't tell him it's funnier

>>53521813
yeah and we need flags too
I can smell it from here...

>>53521793
yes very good stock
my research says very good
buy buy buy

>>53521795
god i love seeing normies suffer

>>53521782
>>53521793
>investing into worst Korea

>>53521830
How am I suffering? Tell me some details schizo.

>>53521793
yes my favorite, ive made so much from coupang, i'd be coping for coupang right now if i didnt own any.

>>53521830
wife made deviled eggs last night
bonus 150% bigger than usual this year
i'm living my best life right now

>>53521838
>>53521860

>>53521826
It is a veddy good company kind sir, don't mind those spice smells he just got back from lunch

>futures

>>53521915
yes coffee is good for you

>futures

>>53521875
https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1674991860861912.webm

>>53521924
In moderation

>>53521875
>>53521930
banks have been financing overpriced homes at 1% interest rate. People thought of it like it's a gift.
I'm not a normie I'm just trying to figure out how to profit.

>>53521932
So is (non-poisoned) nicotine

>>53521960
1%? who got a 1% loan?

>>53521964
eurofags got loands from 1-2% in 2021 I think

>>53521964
I remember retards thinking they got a 1% rate before 2008 but it was really a 7.25% and adjustable rate negative amortization loan and the bankers or brokers would tell them their payment is the equivalent of a 1% rate. Most of those morons lost their houses a few years later

Hey fellow people. New here. No posts above. Just one question friends. Coupang? It looks like Korea's negative population growth is going to cause an inverse crater for this share price. Thanks for reading my only post. Coupang Coupang Coupang!!

>>53521968
no one cares about eurofags

>>53521962
Non-poisoned?

>>53521964
>>53521968
2.65% for a 30y in 2021 was the lowest i could find in burgerstan
i suppose that's an average and it really doesn't say what the spread is

>>53521962
Putting cylindrical objects into your mouth is pretty gay

>>53521915
*Sniiiif*

>>53521988
Well most tobacco is sprayed with pesticides, heavy metals, toxins, shit sprayed on cigarette paper, the glue that holds the paper tube together etc, that makes it more addictive than it otherwise naturally would be and more toxic of course, came out in hearings going back to the 1970s I believe

>>53521995
my point is that not everyone has a safe and comfy 30y. So in europe at negative interest rates you could get a 10y for a house at a very low monthly rate. All banks care about is if you can pay the current rate. So you don't need a good job. Without a good job you are probably not going to refinance. If housing prices go down over the next years. Banks could be holding a huge bag. And we all know how this usually ends.

I refuse to believe anyone on this board makes more than $30-40k/year, despite most anons here claiming they earn +$100k at 26yo and calling it a moderate salary. There is just no way.

>>53522017
of course
banks will consolidate further until there is one bank left

>want as much chaos as possible
>no interest in money
What should I pray for?

Is that pajeet shill trying to be funny or is he really that stupid?

>>53522036
>One central bank

Let's fucking gooooooo

>>53522017
you still pay nearly double the price of the home even with 2% interest
usury is an unforgiving bitch
also home sales in Dec were super strong and that is why lumber is melting up just fyi
banks will be fine
you may not be able to afford a house though

>>53522038
debt bubble. contrary to popular belief, the GFC was comfy as fuck

>>53522019
>I refuse to believe anyone on this board makes more than $30-40k/year,
30-40k/year is maybe acceptable in some third world shithole

>>53522019
I unironically make more than that in fast food.

>>53522055
Tower of Babel/Bank of International Settlements (BIS)

>>53522067
Meaning higher or lower interest rates?

>>53522051
Certainly not me u talk about. I'm paki so how dare call me Indy Anne Jonas Bros. Coupang stock of future. You see here first! Kimchi!!!

>>53522069
only people awake right now are unemployed neets and eurocucks
30-40k to either of them is a fortune

trust the plan fellow frens
we will be buying on pennies on the dollar again squeezing the normies of their precious tax dollars
they will forget and the cycle repeats

>>53522076
the rates dropped and anyone of working age (meaning anyone here basically) had an entry into the biggest bull market in American history. and while jobs were hard for a bit, it's not like competition is very hard in America - most people are retarded here so it's easy to get hired rather than them.

>>53522062
>you still pay nearly double the price of the home even with 2% interest

You take a 10y loan of 1000k eurorupies at 2% to buy a overpriced (preferably new) home. It's basically a shed.
You will pay 200.000 interest and have repayed about 200.000 and 100.000 upfront.
After 10 years you can't refinance. You still owe the bank 500k. By now house is not really worth that much anymore. Probably around 300k. Bank loses a ton of money.

>>53522019
I broke the 100k barrier last year and am very proud of myself. It's always been on my bucket list.

>>53522074
delet this

>>53522078
Well if your gonna shill something for a few sheckles or however that gets translated into paki money you should at least put the ticker in your post. Do they not even train you, don't you have a piece of paper on a cubicle wall to go off of over there or what?

>>53522079
as an eurochad working from home, trading and shitposting I can't agree
with the timezone difference I take full advantage of both EU and US market (+ futes)
can't get more comfy shitting up your allegedly "fortune" within a few months

The Fed wants markets to believe it'll keep raising rates after today, regardless of what they actually expect to do. But markets know this and are calling the bluff. Exciting times, lads. Makes me want to pop open a fresh Bang's.

>>53522103
while i don't particularly think that will happen with current inflation levels
if it does your government will bail out the banks don't worry eurobro
and the news will say it's the best thing for you

>>53522069
>Third world shit hole

So basically 90% of the united states?

>>53522074
Take your meds skitzo. Look at china. Nationalized Central Banks actually work quite well.

i am doing you chuds a favour now
and you WILL be in my debt from here on
get out of tech and into value asap
rates WILL BE hiked
debt WILL NOT be cut
re WILL SUFFER
zombies WILL collapse
banks WILL BE merged

>>53522152
>china
>work quite well.

>>53522137
Stop reading about history goy

The resilience of the American economy is astounding. In the dealership world:
- Financing rates at record highs.
- Monthly payments at record highs.
- New car prices at record highs.
- Used car prices slightly below record highs.
- Car dealers are having a very strong month.

>>53522137
Just figuring it all out. I mean if it's works at 2% whats with the 0.89% loans that were really given.
So not only do banks profit from interest rates. Inflation is actually what they need to stay alive.
And at the same time inflation and immigration is dragging poorer eu countries into chaos.

>>53522164
>Fastest growing economy by far in the last 20 years.

Come at me bro. Maybe if we had a rational central bank in charge we would have a more stable fucking market environment.

>>53522179
this is by design
you are naive if you think it isnt

>>53522019
290k/year, SWE

EU CPI in 1 min.
get ready for the dump

>>53522179
all their numbers are fake
they even fake their temperature
when it was more than 40c outside during the height of the drought in china, their official weather apps refused to show more than 36c

don't believe any number coming from chinkland

>>53522152
Yes, works very well for the billionaire bankers, not so much for the financially enslaved plebs of the nations they suck all the wealth from, illiterate naive ignorant establishment parroting useful idiots, as the elites call people like you

c3.ai popping off 2nd day in a row
they‘re gonna work with chatGTP now which caused the rally
get in before it‘s too late

>>53522019
Jesus fucking Christ, thought the whole yuropoor thing was a meme. Pathetic slave continent

>>53522203
I work in Germany and my starting salary as an IT professional (Cloud Infrastracture, AD Administration, MDM) is 2200€ monthly after tax.
It‘s pathetic, yes.

>>53522184
With this kinda money you must be feeling personally responsible for inflation

Headline inflation in Europe slowed more than expected last month, driven by energy costs. The bad news: core inflation is holding at an all-time high of 5.2%.

>>53522234
2J, I sandbag every project. Fuck ZOG.

>>53522239
based
will sell everything europe today

>>53522179
>Fastest growing economy by far in the last 20 years.
So was Japan, so will be India soon
Nothingburger

>>53522193
>IT'S AL FAKE BRO LE HECKIN CONSPIRACYARINO

I'm willing to be kind enough to grant you that some of there numbers are faked because yes china is an authoritarian shit hole, but, It's just commonsense at this point that even with cooked numbers they are still out pacing any other thirdworld shit hole country by far in the lat 30 years.

Name on country that isn't European that has a growth rate like china does? Inda? Russia? This is just denialism. I don't have to believe the numbers I can clearly see with my own eyes. I strongly believe in this power of a central bank especially in the united states, would be quite powerful.

>>53522194
>Yeah bro man all those billions of people that went from living in literal shacks in the 1980s to now living in high rise apartment complexes bro. They are so exploited now.

Of course when people point out this same exploitation in the united states of course we are just communists or whatever.
China at least has some controls and regulations on its billionaire class. We just let Musk do whatever he wants in the US. What a double standard. Kill yourself retard.

>>53522245
>THE STREET SHITTERS WILL OVER TAKE CHINA BRO TRUST ME

>>53522239
Should i short dax ?

>>53522250
They already are the fastest growing economy in the world
>Street shitters
If the dog eaters can everyone can

>>53522199
so NAK is finally pumping again

>>53522242
Cool... I'm unemployed

>>53522222

>>53522263
Get a job (or two) nigger.

>>53522193
Everyone's numbers are fake bro so you may as well invest in China if that is your metric

>>53522274
>>53522274
>>53522274
>>53522274

>>53522245
Indias fertility rate is already below 2.

>>53522267
No.
>lordoftheringsmeme.jpg

How does that make you feel wagie?

>>53522269
eurosisters, you did it
you beat inflation

you'll know it's a bull market when your grandma's moist as fuck

https://youtu.be/cOHO1CIYbUc

>>53522110
Made 94k in '22, my raise is only going to get me to 98k this year. Feels bad. But I know I'm blessed to be making anything over 60k. I saved 40k last year and I plan to do the same this year.