/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>53520967
>80 apps

Lmao. My first job out of college I got after applying to over 300 companies. Its a numbers game anon.

>>53520973
Doesn’t really make much sense. I’ve put in probably half that myself and have 7 seven years of experience with a solid job I work now and I have trouble getting some of these entry level positions.

>>53520967
Most job listings are phony. They get paid by the government to advertise job openings that don't actually exist.

>>53520981
moved out of an office job to puruse a hands on gig, biiiiiig mistake, and can't seem to get anything back from new applications, this comment makes me want to vom

>>53521003
pursue*

>>53520967
1. recession (many are fake listings)
2. ATS AI resume filters (gotta have the right keywords or auto trashed)
3. immigrant waves (post covid)
Fortunately, any low tier min wagie job is most certainly vacant.

>>53520967
Similar experience with higher end jobs
Actually finally got an offer only because I knew someone in the company with influence. Anyway I declined it because the pay was bad and now I'm waiting for something else to come though

Probably going to ruin my credit but I'm not going to buy a fucking house with these prices anyway so fuck it

>>53520985
Why is this legal to post fake jobs

As I go through Indeed there are hundreds of not thousands of ‘Last Active 30+ Days Ago’ jobs

Which to me says they never intended on using Indeed to fill them

Arrrrgghhhh I want a job so I can buy crypto this year

>>53520967
I haven't been in the job market for a long time, but the last time I was floored by just how many companies would be ringing me me up months, even YEARS after submitting a res to them. Eventually..., those women, trannies and niggers don't work out so good, or so it would seem!

>>53520967
I have 3 years experience in my field, I have applied to entry level positions and always get asked for an interview, funny how the world works. It's almost like you have to have experience to have experience to get the job to have experience to get the job

I just checked a job description for a delivery driver and this was the description.
>(company) provides High-End Laundry Pickup and Delivery service for busy clients and those who would rather spend their time pursuing their goals. We trade our service and give them back their time along with a clean and eco-friendly laundry service.


Is it me or is 'for people who would rather pursue their goals' disrespectful to the people applying to the job? as if you can't be pursuing your goals if you take the job? maybe I'm stir-crazy from reading job descriptions all day.

>>53520967
>These are entry level jobs
Do you have 5yrs work experience?

I can't even fucking find that many jobs in my area. I am so sick of this bullshit.

Go to the website instead of indeed to apply. If they don't have the job listed, ditch it, or find a contact to send resume to. Indeed is not good.

>>53521866
>he fell for the moving to spring valley illinois meme

>>53521894
If I lived in the US I probably wouldn't suffer so much

>>53521939
If you lived in rural US, you'll probably have to drive an hour + each way to get a job.

>>53521957
If I lived in rural US, I could buy some overgrown land with chump change and fuck off permanently

>>53520985
I dont think thats true. But they are phony insofar as they only try to bait the best applicant ever. They will likely never fill these rolls

Good you catposting faggot I bet you thought it was cute when you impersonated me and pretended my cat died for sympathy and to fucking gaslight me you iphone proxy nigger and now life is turning sour for you?
Man what a fucking shock.

>>53522025
No you couldn't moron if you live in a rural state you make rural minimum wage which is still 7.78 in my state and they absolutely make foreign niggers like yourself take the minimum,

>>53520967
It's funny how you see news like "There are so many jobs and nobody wants them!"

And then you talk to anyone job searching and they've applied to hundreds of jobs with no luck.

These recruiters and hr hiring managers are retarded

>>53521019
Fake listings? I never thought about that, but it kinda makes sense. So you pretend to have positions open to make it look like business is going well, and then never reply to any applicants? This would make a lot of sense for some of the job postings I've seen a few months ago

>>53520967
many job postings are fake: outright scams or positions that were filled but the recruiting roasties were too lazy and retarded to take the posting down, or they were told to keep it up, to data harvest resumes.

of the jobs postings that aren't fake, most applicants are total retards so the application inbox is flooded with absolute garbage. low level recruiter roaties are hired to sift through resumes and present the good ones to hiring managers for consideration. unfortunately most of these recruiting roasties are women in their 20s, and oftentimes they're contracted employees who don't even work for the company or even understand the role, so they do an awful job and end up wasting time. as a personal anecdote, i helped my boss interview candidates for 2 open positions on our team. it took between 6-8 months to find and hire two people. it wasn't even an issue of local talent, the posting was open to fully remote candidates (although the retard contract recruiter roastie fucked up the posting and initially had it listed as hybrid in another city for about 1 month.)

>>53524147
Also for datamining. I don't bother looking for a new job on the big boards now, its guaranteed that by next morning I will start recieving phone calls from "SIR HOW ARE YOU TODAY" jeets.

It took me like a year of applying to get a job, I was insanely down on myself because my savings ran out plus I lost everything in crypto. A tax place finally took a chance on me and it’s a pretty chill job surprisingly. You just have to keep applying.

>>53521093
Or you were last on the list when everyone else used the job as a springboard.

>>53524162
also consider that most companies are literally retarded and will make their current short-staffed employees do additional work so a hiring manager can hold out for the perfect Cinderella glass shoe candidate. i've been rejected from somewhat specialized roles despite being qualified, and i see the company reposting the same role every few weeks, to stay at the top of the "active postings" list, for months and months and months.

>>53522025
Gimme location deets so I can gauge how right or wrong you are (from and to).

>>53521884
this nigger gets it
I use to only apply on indeed with zero fucking results
then i changed my tactic, browsed indeed or other job apps to see who is hiring, go to their company website, and submit an application directly through it. If they have no section on their website to apply, i normally ditch it, but sometimes they have a section for "HR" and I do a manual submission via email to HR.

I'm not gonna bullshit though, took months before i got a reply and a position, but sure as fuck better then letting some gay ass app decide for you or some AI filtering you out

>>53524190
also this.
There is like 8 fake jobs just wanting you to dox yourself for jeets to scam you.

>>53521866
Same I live in Philly and work in banking
It’s surprisingly dead here and I may have to move elsewhere to get anywhere

>>53520967
My advice is to make a LinkedIn profile. Post something vaguely related to your career field every day for 30 days. Eventually a recruiter will ask of you're interested in interviewing for a job.

>>53524727
i occasionally see ibanking analyst jobs for philly on my linkedin. who even does ibanking in philly -- just companies too cheap to pay NYC rates?

>>53521019
>recession
uh excuse me, Biden and democrats said we're doing better than ever!

>>53520967

>>53520967
Husbant we are going to die if you don't invest the money you saved up. The jobs aren't coming husbant, why don't you take the offer hamachi finance gave you of giving you money if you invest it? We are starving husbant

>>53520967
>NO ONE WANTS TO WORK
>WHY ARE MILLIONS OF MEN BECOMING UNEMPLOYED AND NOT LOOKING FOR JOBS
>have relevant experience
>walk in apply to a shitty fucking fast food place
>4 indians working and a white manager
>it was over before it began
>apply, go for the interview a few days later
>goes very well
>never hear from them again
next
>go on indeed
>this job is an hour commute, pays $33k-55k (canadian rupees) yearly, requires a bachelors degree and 3+ years of experience
>this is the minimum, all other jobs have even more stringent requirements

>>53527247
I keep seeing jobs like your second example where they want three years of experience and a degree to pay you $17 an hour. Before anyone says that’s a lot of money, The median rent in this city is $2600.

>>53520967
Pay money for someone to critique your resume. Pick a quota, I did 4-5 applications a day. Once you put that amount in (no more) stop looking at jobs for the day. I applied to 147 jobs after college and had interviews with 3 and offers from two. That was a worse job market

>>53520967
My experience is that companies have a number of positions they're constantly hiring for because they have constant churn. So what they do is post an ad every single week or month. Most of the time, they don't need to hire someone. But half the time, they do need to hire someone in which case they take a glance at the inbox.

So yes, most of those job postings do not result in hiring. Honestly, there needs to be checks and balances on the system such as charging for postings, charging for applications, charging for interviews. Game theory should be applied to the whole process to increase efficiency. As it is now, it's a complete joke.

The likelihood of getting a response is related only to whether or not someone quit that morning.

>>53528060
kek same. the fucking minimum wage here is $15~

>>53521957
Can confirm, I have to do this currently and I'm willing to take a dollar or two pay cut to now drive. Still can't find shit near me.

>>53524121
It's probably partially the progressive AI filtering bullshit as well.

>>53524693
They must be getting desperate to try to scam out-of-work mofos.

>>53520967
dude try being a one time violent felon that happened more than 10yrs ago and getting a job in the USA.
you have no idea how much worse it could be for you.

>>53529453
wtf did you do?

>3 seemingly prospective opportunities all end up fucking ghosting me
To what end are people compelled to do this?

>>53524474
I'm a bitch, the mother niggers make me create an account on each separate website just to send my resume.
Simple account creation might be alright but I gotta type out my resume in text form plus add my resume. Yea nah, I'm gonna be a lazy nigger and gamble on indeed.

>>53530381
those hoops they make entry level workers jump through are retarded, degrading even

network, use craigslist, or strike up conversations at conferences, that's how i've found all my worthwhile jobs

>>53529863
>>53529453
This is why I hate crypto there's nobody authentic in this space/board
I'm a nocoiner yes, no not by choice but these two niggers aren't even human more than likely AI bots pushing a scam, you can't have human interaction on this board anymore.

>>53526841
Baby prease understand, it can’t be helped.

>>53520967
>highly demoralizing
they want you to hate applying so that when you do get a job you're stuck there, only a numbers game
>>53520985
also posting a job is basically free because of things like this

>Go to university career fair
>Hand out my resume to everything relevant to my degree, shake hands and talk to people
>A few months later get called in for a govt job interview
>The senior dev boomer likes me so I get the job

It's that easy bros

>>53530854
I got all of one callback from a job fair, it was basically a cold call months later, and I already had a job by then.

>>53520967
In order for a corporation to get free immigrant slave labor, they must first legally prove that there are no real citizens willing to do these jobs. So the corporation will create fake job listings and claim they didnt get any qualified applicants and then apply for their international gibs :^)

>>53522025
You still owe property tax

>>53521061
Because low IQ zoomers and millennials mistakenly think that the 'rpogessives' are going to 'own the corporations' when in reality they just give them money to replace americans.

>>53520967
Just entered negotiation on an offer after 3 months of sending over 800 applications each month, calling the companies to follow up. Out of all that, only got 30 or so interviews.
Its not a good time to be looking for work

>>53520967
>be me
>lose 20k on market (fuck boomer rock penny stocks)
>have to wage slave
>go crazy on indeed
>hear nothing
>put in a single in person application
>get job
indeed is a meme

>>53531230
>internet application is a meme

indeed indeed