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So what is the true gold / silver ratio /pmg/?

>>53514110
lol
lmao even

>shilled relentlessly on the biggest social engineering platform on the internet
>Reddit
BUT
>”silver definitely ends the fed guise”

What the fuck is wrong with you idiots?

>>53514144
Not high enough dammit

thoughts on palladium?

>>53514144
checked.
your last two digits.

>>53514065
>g*n bitch thread banned by the mods
Based! /pmg/ is a nonviolent general

>>53514424
im pretty sure you dont get banned for accidental double bakes just a warning, but who knows with the knows with the new batch of jannies

>>53514445
holy shit i had a stroke halfway through that post lol

>>53514065
I really want to try panning for gold. How much could a casual panner expect to find in a year just going out a couple times a month?

>>53514463
based vaxxtard

>>53514489
Probably not enough to cover the expense of doing it, but don't let that stop you, anon. Not everything is an economic decision!

>>53514340
not copper.
not silver.
not gold.
not stacking.

>>53514533
>copper

Next week lads, I'll be getting a new double sovereign and will move into Coinquestador tier.

>>53514566
You unrefined swine.

>>53514918
where can the new double sovereigns be purchased in america? Do online vendors have them yet?

>>53514934
These are actually really nice.

>>53514340
Spot price right now is strangely low, though you wouldn't know it by the prices vendors are charging for Pd items.

I BOUGHT MORE SILVER TODAY.
My stack is increasing both in WEIGHT and GIRTH.

Soon I'll be GOBBLING up so much GOBLIN PUSSY the Red Cross will think there's a famine. AND NONE OF YOU CAN STOP ME.

>>53514960
No idea. The bullion version has only just been put on sale today, so it's going to take a while before anywhere out of the UK will have them.

Foam rings just came in the mail, so this bitch is finally under plastic, where she belongs. So much relief.

>>53514934
Ngl, these look better

>>53515098
Welcome back. Knock ‘em dead fren.

Unrelated, but the guy in the other thread said I could post pics of his stack. So here are his gold coins.

>>53514144
1:16 minimum. I think you could set a floating bi-metallic standard that has a redemption window, say 15-20. Just a small gold coin like a sovereign and the treasury sets an exchange rate every few months in that window. /rant

>>53515184
I never ask permission to repost kino images
>>53514934
Bronze/ Copper has a strong place

Found these in my couch cushion, what are these worth?

crypto nerds will seethe

>>53515147
You may be mocking me, but those C.E.C tokens will be collectable one day. I don't know how long the market will last, but I'll bet you a token that there will be a bubble for them.

>>53514144
Typically it is advised 1 gold ounce for 75 silver ounces but I can't recall why.

>>53515125
OMG are you okay now? That must gave been so scary for you.

>>53514144
1:1

>>53514144
>So what is the true gold / silver ratio /pmg/?

GSR 83:1

https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/price-ratio/gold/silver/alltime/

>>53514566
I genuinely wish we still had copper pennies

>>53515546
I'm still literally shaking right now, but I should be alright in a few days.
>>53515582
Coins out in the wild. Fucking madman.

>>53514144
You mean what is it at this moment or what should it be?

>>53515347
I'll buy them for a few ALGO ;)

>>53514445
So do people get warnings if there's more than one chain link thread?
More than one Bitcoin thread?

>>53515098
Goblins?

Warning: /adv/ tier post.
How do I stop buying PMs for a few months? I do want to stack fiat, but every time I have spare cash on hand I immediately spend it on PMs. I want to save up for 1oz of gold, but I always end up buying a fractional gold piece or mostly a bunch of silver.
The tl;dr is how do I have more discipline when saving up cash?

>>53516136
>how do I have more discipline when saving up cash?
It's rough but you gotta get that full ounce. That's what I finally did. NOW I can focus on the fractionals. You can do the same, fren.

>>53516136
Store your fiat in the least convenient way possible for your typical metal purchase. So if you normally buy online keep cash or vice-versa. Or you could really fuck yourself and sell some silver to buy gold.

>>53516136
Buy european francs

Went shopping, got my birthday haul today: A 1998 premier edition silver proof set, 2007 presidential dollars proof set and a 2012 silver proof set from the coin shop, couple of 1964 silver quarters from a pawn shop and Berserk deluxe edition volume 2 from the comic shop, lol.

The 1998 premier edition silver proof set is really cool. Really great deal if your dealer goes off of grey sheet prices for proof sets, it was only $20 for the silver one. Yes, seriously just $20. The actual lens with silver coins is identical to what would be in any other 1998 silver proof set, the difference is it has a metal frame around the lens and is stored in a really nice clasped case instead of the shitty little cardboard box. It's also a BITCH to remove the lens from the metal holder, there's a holder that keeps the frame in place but metal-on-metal means it's very strong. It'd make a great gift for someone's birthyear. Guess they aren't very well known which is what keeps the price low. Me personally, today was the first time I knew about them. I just pointed behind the coin counter at a black box and asked "What's that?"

2007 presidential dollars was a nice one to get since the stupid 2007 set didn't include them. Dealer only charged me $5 for them, so I only paid a $1 premium over the face value, been looking for those four little brass shits all over the place.
2012 hurt a little to buy. It's tied as the most expensive post-Kennedy proof set of any year, costing me a whopping $150. 2020 is also listed for the same price on the gray sheet, but it's climbing up in value fast so if you want to complete the ATB series I advice you get 2020 and 2021 first, they have the makings to really be key dates.
It's a nice set. Grover Cleveland is included twice, since he was the 22nd and 24th president. Nothing is very noteworthy of the regular slab, other than I guess the native american and horse on the Sacagawea dollar are nice. The ATB quarters are where it's at (Review next post)

>>53515125
Nice coin anon.
INDIANS/PAKISTANIS/ARABS ARE THE MOST VILE AND DESPICABLE RACE IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE.
They are worse than niggers and dare I say it even worse than jews.
They are more corrupt than niggers.
They are stingier than jews.
Everyone knows never do business with them.
Don't associate with them or let your family members or friends associate with them.
Make sure you do not support their race in anything, especially financially.

>>53516408
The five quarters of the 2012 set I review as follows:
>El Yunque
Lovely design that's very fun. It depicts a parrot and a tree frog sitting on some plant life. The sculpt itself is interesting: The center of the coin is filled a twisting vine, which has the highest devices and the most luster. It's what gets your attention first But then the parrot and the frog are seen afterward, is if you "discovered" them. Not very detailed, but pleasant to look at

>Chaco Culture
Decent enough. The brick craters (or whatever they are) catch luster well enough, and are nicely detailed. Just kind of plain overall.

>Acadia
Dull. Just a lighthouse on a cliff. Sounds nice, but what's a let down is most of the design is taken up by the rocky cliff. Even on the proof version there's not enough detail to warrant ROCKS actually taking up no less than 50% of the reverse.

>Denali
A terrible letdown by poor technical skills. I love the IDEA of a Ram standing in front of a field and a mountain. What stinks is the actual strike. The Ram has hardly any contrast from the mountains or the fields. The fields hardly have any contrast from the mountains either. I'm sure this looks fine in the 5ozt format, but for something slightly smaller than an inch it just doesn't work

>Hawaii Volcanoes
The best for last, and the reason you're going to buy this set. Simply put, it's a masterpiece. No matter how you tilt it, you're getting a dazzling brilliance of luster. The mountain portion of the Volcano somehow seems to shine whiter than any of the other quarters. The lava being the negative space of cameo proof fields is just wonderful. What truly impresses is the erupting smoke. Reminiscent of a Holographic sticker, how the coin is tilted changes how much of the smoke cloud is visible. Laying flat, the smoke looks like some distortion. Facing the light, it's a gleaming radiance. It feels alive. (continued)

>>53514934
I bet Catherine could fit this entire stack in her ass

>>53515147
>>53515418
I actually have one of those LMAO
And a bunch of Namco tokens from going to the arcade as a kid

>>53516694
(dumb meme I just made to add an image) What's truly great is to really sell the effect, the volcano somehow keeps it luster from any angle. Only the smoke changes. It's gorgeous. It's changing, it's dynamic, and it's animated. Holographic stickers could never dream to be so classy, it resembles a gem more than a piece of metal. By far my favorite silver proof quarter, and maybe my favorite silver US coin of the 2010's period. 11/10. I get why people are paying $450+ for the 5ozt version, because now I really want one after seeing the brilliance of the 6.25 gram version. But I don't know if the effect can be conveyed as well without a proof finish, the cameo contrast is what really makes this coin. What's a real shame is we didn't get a reverse proof version of this. That could have been one of the most beautiful silver coins, ever.

Ultimately, you're buying the 2012 set for the Hawaii quarter, and to fill out collection gaps. It's so much more expensive than the other sets I can't recommend it for any other reason. That's exactly what I wanted and exactly what I got. If you don't want it for that reason, you don't want it period. Save your premiums for cheaper proof sets. 2009 is probably the strongest year overall, and at a much lower premium if you want to dip your toes into silver proof autism.

>>53515098
why would you do it? anything named after a mineral eventually ends up being another scam, even sora with an anime mc name is safer than that.

>>53516694
Hawaii Volcanoes

>>53516136
Ask your locals how it works to exchange some of your ten oz bars for gold. I'm sure the taxes and fees will vary by region and shop.
>>53516408
Nice! Happy birthday.
>I also like mint sets. Leafland tho.

>>53516989
Many years ago when I first started buying coins I had the opportunity to buy some of those 1960s coin sets for way under spot but I didn't know what they were at the time.

>Buy a bunch of copper 1oz "coins" and give them out as presents
>People appreciate them almost as much as silver
Honestly this feels like the way to go, most people don't know the value of silver so copper is the same thing for them, when you buy assorted 2nds in large quantities it's a great gift for kids.
It sounds niggardly but for even someone in their 20's copper and metals in general are still cool and mysterious.

>>53516694
Denali

>>53515418
>>53516749
I wasn’t mocking you fren, just shit posting. I was going through an old bag of change I had laying around and found a couple Namco tokens lol

What are those in your pic anyways?

>>53515811
i just melted ten of them into an ingot with a bunch of other copper i had lying around

>>53514144

your 1 rep max

>>53516970
Is that a five ounce

>>53517213
>admitting you destroyed currency on a board monitored by glowniggers

>>53517285
It is, and the Denali too.
Light's gone, so I'll try tomorrow to image the Chaco. I don't have the other two.

>>53517101
You can't be serious?

Anyone else having trouble ordering from JMbullion's site? Everytime I try to complete an order I get a "sorry you're transaction cannot be completed" at the top of the page

>>53517339
Man, I don't know, it works wonders. You wouldn't think they'd care about coppers but they are just as excited recieving 2 coppers as they are one silver.
One girl I gave it to was a horse girl and liked horses, gave her a horse coin.
One guy took the "copper bitcoin" because he thought it was funny.
They can get really cheap when you buy them in bulk as seconds and people seem to really enjoy them as gifts. I've given away silver too but copper has its place. A lot of people still have a childlike fascination with metal and they'd be happy to receive a 1oz piece of ANY metal made into a coin shape, even a zinc ingot would make them happy.

>>53517454
I'll second that set of reactions. I've given away both metals as rounds and coins, and copper rounds got at least as much appreciation as the silver *coins* I gave out. Strange days.

>>53514065
evening all how are things?
>>53506974
yep there be gold basically everywhere on the Fraser, but the best spots are the big bedrock outcrops / islands and the old timer bars near Hope. Its getting pretty hard to mine there though, the natives are trying to shut down river access to anyone but themselves.

>>53517294
>he cares about the opinions of glowniggers

>>53514489
you dont make a living at panning, even in the best gold country its extremely difficult to make money by hand mining now. Research your region though, you could have some hot spots to snoop around, maybe even some nuggets! If you dont look you dont find anything!

>>53517213
>>53517294
I haven't melted copper pennies but I've melted the zincies, you lose money doing this but it's so fun to melt pennies over the campfire, just don't breathe in the fumes.
Zinc has a lower melting point so you can literally just use a campfire to melt zinc pennies, the copper jacket sort of goops off and the zinc comes out.

>>53517294
>implying they care about old pennies

Uh goys, why is oil, silver and gold at 0?
https://www.usdebtclock.org

>>53517742
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ask 'em.

>>53517742
The rates are up and will keep going up, this means there is less US dollars in existence than some time ago.
Everyone is about to learn central banks can create both inflation and deflation how they want, always in their own interest, against the interest of everyone else.
That's why physical silver is important, it's quantity doesn't change significantly over long periods of time, they cannot create the boom and bust cycles they use to steal wealth from you. They brainwash the majority of the population to always be on the wrong side of the trade.

>>53516136
I've the exact same issue fren. The further i plunge into the stackbyss, the less cash i manage to save for bigger purchases. Now even when i simply have 50 bux i immediately spend it on silver.
I want a 1ozer gold since a while now, but i'll never be able to save up 2K, it's a lost cause at this point, i'm a filthy junkie.
Also i'm neeting rn so it really isn't helping in term of $$ availible.

>>53516881
Was this an MK Ultra activation phrase? The fuck are you talking about?

>>53517874
bruh..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPpvbkpLhTc

>>53517647
take a file and make a small nick in the rim of a zinkie and then heat it up with a torch. All the potmetal will drip out leaving the hollow shell intact.

>>53516714
And I'll bet you are a Jew.
Denounce the Talmud.

>>53516136
>>53517860
My bank has some fixed terms options for saving accounts.
The interest rates are abysmal but the money isn't accesible until the terms end.
So whenever I find myself having difficulties meeting my saving goal I send some money at 3 or 6 month.
Try to sync them when I have a big goal (work in one of the flats, car purchase etc) so I get an extra lump sum available this date.

>>53515582
lmfao

>>53517860
I'm not religious but I will pray for you my brother. We are in the same slowly leaking boat. But we still bail out water and have provisions for some years to come, but not indefinitely.
>>53518074
Lately the idea of saving up some money for a CD kinda gives me a tight one. One place is offering 4% for $500 per year, but it's a private credit union that I'd need to get into. Does it hurt to blindly apply?

Metalbros. Do you think it's a good idea to buy Gold/Silver jewelry from good legit pawn shops?
Or should I stick with the usual guys?

>>53518203

if traceability is a concern, buy from reliable pawn shops with cash so nobody knows you have it.

>>53516989
Man I gotta pick up a leaf silver proof set sometime. I like US coinage a lot more but the presentation of the canadian sets is undeniably nicer. Happen to know what's the deal with Canadian silver proof sets, as in which years the coins are silver, or if they make silver versions of modern circulating coins?

>>53518351
1966 and earlier is all 80% silver (except the nickel and penny)
1967 has the dollar and half dollar at 80%, quarter and dime at 50%
1968 has 50% quarters and dimes, everything else is base metal after this

>>53518496
I forgot to mention only half of 1968's quarters and dimes are silver, the other half are base metal

>>53518511
>I forgot
... several things.

>>53518551
>no reading comprehension
He asked about Canadian coins, genius

>>53518496
1967 was a transition year from 80% coinage to 50%
1968 was 50% silver to zinc.

people who have junk silver centennials are offered the middle between 50 and 80, so its sold like it has 65% silver, unless you can prove you have a 80%, which there is no ways to test without destroying the coin. the only way you can prove you have a 80% is from a proof set

>>53518558
Oops.

>>53518181
Doey for my ignorance but English is not my first language.
What is CD? Credit default ?

>>53517605
pretty good pan man, thanks for asking. anon used my pic for the op! how are you doin this winter evening?

>>53517629
idyllic. based and pan pilled.

>>53518181
Im literally in the process of unwimding my CDs. Its not worth it putting the thousands i had on CDs into PMs wpuld have been better

>>53518708
certificate of deposit

when do megumins ship?

>>53518676
Pretty sure if you have a good digital scale you can figure out if it is 50% or 80%. They have different weights

>>53518496
Cool, saw some Canadian junk silver at same pawn shop i got the US quarters and wanted them, but wasn't sure so held off. One was a 1940 but absolutely disgusting, and there was a good amount of 67's and 68's. Might go back tomorrow see if there are any good ones I missed
>>53518676
So a centennial can be either, with no real way to know? Good thing I held off on buying.

>>53515098
>GOBLINs again

goblin hunters, reporting in

>>53518771
this only applies to 1967 quarters and dimes when they changed 80% to 50% halfway through the year anon

the 1967 half pieces and silver dollars for circulation are all 80% silver that year

>>53518771
For 68's if it's silver it will still ping. It will sound just a little duller. Nonsilver ones fail magnet tests.
50% silver is still silver, although I understand not wanting to pay more.
>>53518676
>the only way you can prove you have a 80% is from a proof set
I did get many of my 67 proof sets in a bulk buy from someone online that was selling them as though they were 50%. Bought their whole inventory.
>>53518496
Thank you for chiming in with that. Have a (You).
It was nice having some degree of expertise in a niche of coin collecting/silver stacking but since the Queen passed I fear the good deal days are done. It's probably not going to stop me stacking CSDs, but my eyes are wandering towards Krugs now.

>>53518770
according to the Canadian mint they are the same weight.
i should compare it to a 80% silver quarter though.

Some people online say you can ping test a 1967 and you can tell if it is 50% or 80% if you have good ears and know your shit, but these are boomers speaking

>>53518713
winters been pretty rough to be honest, its long and dark, you have to keep busy, which is difficult at the moment. Loads of snow removal to do though for my local district. Spring is coming, but it is a long ways out yet.
I cant wait to get back to the diggings again.

>>53518875
You are right, they weigh the same. I do not know why I thought that considering if you are wondering if a 68 is 50% or nickel all you need is a magnet

Can you help be wrap my head around something?
>gold or silver skyrockets
>either due to silver/gold backed system returning or unfortunately more of a survival system
>either way the PMS are way more valued in general than at this present moment
So then why would one visual design still be more valuable than another? If PMs replace fiat for a time, wouldn't it cause people to test every time instead of relying on security features? And wouldn't it be the last time to be thinking about numismatics?

>>53518995
>So then why would one visual design still be more valuable than another?
Demand, and we're not yet actually under dire economic conditions where weight matters more than design. They're still pretty objects, not circulating currency.

>>53519006
So there's actually a chance that SBD/GBD can arise in a peaceful enough scenario where people who have PMs just calmly use them, while those without simply have to take the hit and convert to the new system? Not a desperate situation so much?

>>53519006

correct. there's no reason why sound money shouldn't be beautiful as well. it's a symbol of healthy civic pride and people will happily pay premiums for it. i believe people collect stamps for this reason as well. at one point everyone used mail with stamps, and everyone had these designs held in common, it was a cultural icon they could recognize as their own.

>>53518995
Certain coins will ALWAYS carry a premium. In the US, the eagle is recognizable, trusted, easily authenticated. That earns it a premium. Even if shtf. I’ll be selling my eggs for eagles only. Or if you are desperate, double generic.

>>53518995
Everyone needs to get over this "sky rocketing" price. If the value of PM's sky rockets that means the value of fiat has tanked. Are you really buying gold and silver as a get rich quick scheme? Gold and silver preserves your purchasing power, I am not saying you wont see gains but if gold is all of a sudden valued at 50k and oz and silver is 500 an oz, you likely wont want the fiat unless you absolutely need it to survive.

>>53519039
It really depends on the reason why gold / silver explodes.

Its either going to be the global market taking a shit with the collapse of the US dollar
or lack of silver and gold supply
or both reasons at the same time

Do you really wanna liquidate your precious metals when bread one day costs 1000$ a slice, to the next day 10000$ a slice? You would sit out the hardtimes with your metals, and wait for things to stabilize on a gold standard and buy back into the market when its rock bottom

I don't think it will go full blown mad max, society will keep on keeping on through hard times.

just my assessment

Allahu ackbar where is my boomer coin when are they shipping

>>53519092

the way i understand it is that people are looking a step beyond that. silverbugs are quick to remind people to not view metals as an alternative to money but money in itself. but currency has been in use for so long that we have no other frame of reference for what the metals are supposed to be able to buy, so of course we have to use dollar values.

after fiat currencies tank they will be replaced by either metals, metal-backed currencies or another fiat currency which won't resemble the current one at all. so when people speculate how many dollars their metal will buy post-collapse, they don't actually intend to trade their metal in for shitty currency but are using the shitty currency as currently valued to understand what their metal will buy when it ultimately happens.

the problem with using this frame of reference is that it inflates with the currency. it will feel very silly to say an oz of gold will get you $50000 when at some point in the future you will probably need 50 trillion dollars to buy one.

I did it, bros
I ordered the Jesus cleansing the temple bar

>>53519073
>>53519092
>>53519105
Thanks for the varied insight. I know a boom isn't guaranteed to happen in my lifetime, but if I'm going to buy for preservation I wanted to ask about another potential scenario as well.

>>53518747
non gildeds are in the mail. still waiting on word about the boxes for gilded orders

>>53519307
>I know a boom isn't guaranteed to happen in my lifetime
If you know and accept that, that is perfect. metals is for building generational wealth and not a get rich quick scheme. I buy for my sons, breaking generational curses that my father and his father before him etc have done fuck all for their heirs. I should not say that entirely, my father has given me everything, but he had nothing of monetary value to give, but with what he has given me in knowledge I am now furthering the generational wealth and am hopefully instilling into my sons the same thing.
I honestly don't know what I would prefer to happen in my lifetime, the crash and burn of fiat would be a wonderful thing to see, or the chance to set my children up as well as I can incase it crashes and burns in their lifetime.
Either way there is much more to it than just metals with the "political" agenda at play. It is amazing how many people who still do not realize their country is a corporation

My hatred of the (((Fed))) and those who ruined our civilization grow daily

>>53519429
It's an interesting thought. If it doesn't happen in your life you get to build up the supply more easily? Because if it does and you're prepared for it and so many aren't you might have opportunities for growth you don't have now? Well it's already known I'm a rookie here.

>>53519625
I know that feeling anon. In the end, God wins

>>53519658
>build up the supply more easily
Depending on how well off you are I won't say anything is going to come more easily as time goes on here.
But again this isn't just about metals. Too many people are one note ponies in everything they do. You don't have to be "doomsday prepper" and stack shitpaper and beans n deans. But having minimum 6 months of food in the house should be something anyone and everyone should do. Buying land, growing/raising non gmo food, investing in yourself with tools and trades. Building a network of like minded individuals who are doing the same things, homeschooling your children instead of sending them to the meat grinder government brainwashing facilities. There is so much you can and should do.
Just don't be the predditor that has a huge stack compared to the average person here but does not change their lifestyle from the cumsoomer faggot he is. Most people who gravitate towards metals see the writing on the wall, but everything has the people who see it as a fad or a get rich quick scheme

I want to buy more silver

>>53516408
a good business would be to make real silver reproductions of those old proof sets.

>>53519306
>"But wait we banned sil--"

>>53519837
Go ahead and try it, coin shops are usually stuck with a bunch of them since nobody but autists like me bother going after them. They're big for the amount of metal they have too, one silver proof set box takes up more volume than my Valcambi kilo silver bar.

>>53519039
Speaking as a person who has been in a real SHTF government collapsing type situation (albeit in a developing nation), I will tell you that the "peaceful" transition will be your experience for 99% of the scenario. Even if there are mobs of people going around setting fires and throwing homemade explosives at tanks, as long as you personally aren't getting into these situations, you're likely going to be fine.

Society exists the way it does for a reason: we gravitate to order. The truth is we, as a species, prefer to not spend the entire afternoon murdering each other for a loaf of bread. What you are most likely to see is that the bulk of the anger and energy will be directed toward whatever people perceive as the source of the problem (eg. probably not you, you're just some fucking guy). Meanwhile, on the "ground level" of day to day business---buying groceries, paying rent, going to school, visiting grandma---all of that will be fundamentally the same. Maybe 2-3% of the population will be acting like assholes, mostly directing violence at themselves, while "normal" people will be focusing on just maintaining a regular existence because that's their only frame of reference.

>>53519771
Fine points there.

>>53519307
>bar
Nice choice fren. I may get one in the future to accompany my round.

>>53520009
Good insights. Makes sense really. Doubly so if you live in a place with guns where acting up will get you cut down quick.

>>53520028
Oops. Meant for >>53519306

>>53519306
it comes in a bar!?

>>53520069
10ozt from golden state mint

>>53520032
Some other things to keep in mind:
>Ukrainian Etsy sellers are still operating right now
>Coca-Cola and McDonald's have operated in active war zones multiple times
>Carlsberg, the beer company, continued operating a brewery during the siege of Sarajevo
>Toyota was running a factory in Saigon during the Vietnam war
There are a lot of examples of things like this: everything is FUBAR but people keep the lights on because it's how we're wired to behave. A dollar collapse wouldn't automatically lead to society collapse because society--which is a natural phenomenon--doesn't exist in things like money or government institutions--which are invented constructs.

>>53520069
Yes

>>53520168
Fucked up size

>>53520196
Nice

>>53520238
blessed and cute Miku

>>53520009
Spent some time in ivory coast and Mali and that's completely true.
Of course the lawlessness of transition emboldens some local bands to commit more petty crimes like roberies or rape so you have to be careful.
But if you are out of the city capital or war zone life goes on as smoothly as possible.
The prepper wet dream of living alone with his gay lover sipping wine while the world burns around is probably quite unrealistic

>>53515546
roastie

>>53520196
...does Erkia com in a bar too? Asking for reasons

>>53520249
>tfw my PVC has appreciated more than my Ag
Miku scale figs are hot.
Not selling either this decade or next though.

>>53520009
In your country, was saving US dollars and spending the local currency common?
i say this because as the USA prints, the entire 'way things work' around the world, in both economics and politics, will be different.

>>53520328
No :(
Got her on Solaris, and she's sold out rn

>>53520328
>>53520386
I'm an illiterate nigger.
I wish she came in a bar though.

>>53519249
All true but one thing to add is the "early adopters" so to speak will benefit from value appreciation that results from a fundememtal shift om demand.

>>53520158
That's some good history to read up on. I'm sure I can even find more than reading material alone in some cases.

>>53519771
Amen, imagine how different everything would be if every American had kept up the victory garden.

We need to completely change our mindset. Even if its only partial you will be better off for what comes next.

>>53519815
ill allow it

>>53518927
since you're out there all the time have you thought about doing aquatic fur trapping?
I'd love to be in your area where you have so many streams and great furbearers. In my area I only have 1 good location to place down traps.

>>53520450
>Even if its only partial you will be better off for what comes next
It always seems so unattainable, but once you start every step you make just makes sense. The holocough was the push I needed to finally begin making bigger changes to my lifestyle. Don't even have that big of a yard but it is surprising how much food you can actually grow. Built a chicken coop, have backyard chickens, built garden boxes, built a greenhouse, planted fruit trees. And you just keep at it. Not just that though, I was planning on sending my oldest to school, he was about to start kindergarten in 2020, but then the schools said mask up to be there and even went as far to say I could not enter the school because I am not vaxxed, so I homeschooled him over a mask. Going on year 3 of homeschooling now, and hearing about the shit going on my small town school sickens me with the pedo/faggot/tranny/gender dysphoria programming they have going on.

AI can write code now... looks like compsci nerds will be out of a job soon :)

Younger brother told me he wanted to get me something silver for my birthday that's really unique for around $50-$80, any cool suggestions?

>>53520734
It isn't a real gift if you tell him what to get.
I'm getting into a habit of buying 5oz bars or rounds for my friends birthdays. That's outside your bros price range I guess.

>>53520734

>>53520766
Based fren, I would love to do the same thing but honestly I don't think they would fucking appreciate or understand it

Any opinions on the 20 pesos coin from Mexico? I just bought one but have never seen one in person. They look neat in pictures though.

>>53520766
damn, wish I could afford that much. Most I can give as a gift is an ounce at a time, I've given 8 people an ounce of silver so far. Nice gift.
>>53520792
Damn, you even made it a life-sized replica of yours? Great job anon

Just wanted to let you guys know I am very grateful to you. I can't go into specifics but collecting precious metals has taught me how to save money properly. Not just 10% of my income but even upwards to 80% of my total income is now being allocated for long term savings. It all started with these threads which got me into economics, long term investing and of course flipping metals for profit. There was a time when I was frugally spreading my last bit of peanut butter on my last slice of white bread in tears because I didn't know what else to do in life to improve my circumstances. It took me several years but now I am in a stable job and am going to school. Started eating right, lifting and training in martial arts. I went from not even being able to do basic math to finishing calculus ad trigonometry and I mean I couldn't even understand what a variable was. It all started from collecting fractional poorfag silver. If I could turn my tubby ass into the man I am now then surely any other person can become more too. Something David Goggins said was "you don't have to be dumb or fat forever. It's not like your life is static and you can fix that shit". Anyway thanks you guys

>>53520874
well I'm not good at crafts so how else was i going to make the mold!? It was cold outside anyways.

>>53520889
You're welcome fren, also have a good story
>used to buy fast food
>"no wait, three orders is another ounce"
>stopped buying fast food
>feel great since stopped eating that trash
>not even hard anymore, now even the smell of it repulses me
It's amazing how much needless consumer garbage you can avoid when the "money" would be better spent on shinies. I had to seriously debate buying a book volume I've spent over a month looking for because it COULD HAVE been another ounce of silver. Maybe that's one reason (((they))) hate it so much, less cash spent on corn syrup and toys to fuel their system.

>>53520911
I WAS IN THE POOL!

>>53520931
Nice man. Sometimes whenever I am really bored I do the odds and ends to make a quick 25 dollars and buy more silver. It's amazing how fast it adds up

>>53520889
lol, post your iron stack. Lanklet here, I need to move this shit more times more often.

>>53520941
>go up a tier in one of the stacker meme charts
give a more empowering feeling that isn't from chemical pleasure, I can wait
>>53520943
those bench/squat weights better be in kilos, that's pretty pitiful dude. Even with my girly dyel wrists I can still bench 160 pounds. How will you lift a monster box without GAINS?

>>53520889
Das it mane

>>53520949
They are weak ass freedom units, not kilos.
I spend too much time on cardio, I do 15 kilometers a week running and 25k cycling.

https://voca.ro/1gbRfMKnNqCy
https://voca.ro/1ooHXKHTw1qH
https://voca.ro/1c7BHBbX8HQ2

>>53520591
The Master Prospector I apprenticed under was a fur trapper, and yes I have done it in the past I dont do it myself, its too much of a pain here to monitor trap lines. My first girl friends parents were trappers as well, she would spend all winter wandering around town looking like cruella de vil. They would go up the Morice River in February and trap martins and there were always coyotes to get pelts from. Its still a way of life for many, but its slowly fading.

>>53520889
Nice, but... /pmg/ has only been around for a little over two years. You turned your life around in that amount of time?

>>53521240
>a little over two years
newfag

>>53521230
>tfw no qt trapper gf
at least i've been adorning mine with pelts but it doesnt get cold enough here to justify using them daily.

>>53520828
They're so tiny irl.
Still kinda want one anyways.
>>53514934
So fucking hot.

>started stacking a little bit at the beginning of last year
>everything dropped
>it's finally back to normal
when do i sell

Just filed my taxes. What should I get with my return when it comes in? Obviously PMs, but any suggestions on what kind? It'll be ~1,000. Tube of Kurgs, kilo bar, half-ounce gold?

>>53521444
Checked.
Are you somewhere where you can gey VAT free silver and how much of each metak do you already have?
Do not associate with indians in your life.
>>53516451

>>53514110
What happened? He lost his twitter account?

>>53521459
Yes, I can buy tax free, and I'm sitting at about 1,200 ozt silver and 12 ozt gold. I'm working on filling a Krugerrand monster box, which is why I mentioned them specifically, but I'm open to others for this as it's not part of my normal purchases.

>>53521481
I would feel really good putting it towards the Krug monster box goal. We never know the day where we might struggle financially and then wished we weren't left with an incomplete monster box and shattered dreams.

>>53521517
Good point.

>>53521481
Krugs and veal are the way to prosper the white race.

>>53514110
Wow that and Jim Lewis getting an arrest warrant somethings going on.

>>53514226
I mean that "movement" was rapidly coopted by retarded boomers shitposting about unrelated content.

>>53514340
I want some, because, well, I just want some!
Seriously though, from a stacking perspective, it is the great (expensive) unknown, it seems.

>>53521384
no trappers, only traps 4 u anon

>>53518817
keep your stacks safe

I wanted to get some gold in the form of rings. Is there a good low price source for quality gold in simple styles with little to no markup? Is it a retarded idea to get gold in a form that is wearable?
I only have a few silver coins currently and wanted some au

>>53521773
I have about 5 gold rings, got them all around spot by scanning offerup, fb marketplace and other local buy/sell groups. Any jewelry store or online site is gonna charge a crazy premium. Pawn shops can sometimes give you good deals, but they mostly deal with a public that's entirely unfamiliar with PM pricing so won't appreciate you talking about "price per gram". It could be worth it if you're looking for something very specific, but if you just want some cool gold rings then just prowl local buy/sell. I've traded firearms, electronics, vidya consoles and musical instruments for thousands of dollars of PM's. It just takes a lot of time, and reaching out to people without being afraid of rejection.

>>53521722
I've been reading a lot about Palladium taking a big dip. I would buy Pt rn if you're looking for something other than Ag/Au.

>>53521878
Thanks, I appreciate the answer. Should I get a gold testing kit if i end up going that route of buying from a private seller? I have no experience with precious metals, all I know is that it is soft, dense, and not magnetic.

>>53520792
You wish you had those calluses. Post your own pics, faggot.

>>53521773
>I wanted to get some gold in the form of rings. Is there a good low price source for quality gold in simple styles with little to no markup?
You can actually find a lot of jewelry on eBay from melt to 10% premium if you aren't picky about size or style

obviously testing it is an issue, but 99% of what I bought I could work out it was legit by looking at the karat/weight and knowing from experience if it was realistic

Tbh just stay away from anything Chinese and new sellers and that filters out 90% of the BS right there

>>53520980
>cardio
Cardio is for women and homosexuals.

>>53521444
>half-ounce gold?
Use that 1k as a stepping stone to save up for a full ounce.

>>53521909
You can. Easiest way would be to buy a gold acid test kit off amazon. They're pretty cheap and idiot proof. I don't have one, this is what I usually do.
1. I try to verify the reputability of the seller. I now have a good few sellers that I have relationships with, so it's not as necessary for me. But look at the age of their account, if the have reviews, what types of items they have posted etc. You can usually sniff out tweakers relatively easy from that first step, but I've gotten scammed twice before so it's better to be safe than sorry.
2. Familiarize yourself with hallmarks, and basic jewelry identification. Understand what the difference between 10k, 14k, and 18k is, how to identify gf (gold filled) gp (gold plated) and hallow jewelry. Then familiarize yourself with "gas station gold". This is the cheap fake shit that you can find almost anywhere in the country. Usually marked 18k, it has a brass-y color, and is usually halmarked on the underside of the ring. They'll often be really chunky and gaudy. Look up some google images of 'gas station gold jewelry' and you'll see a bunch of examples.
3. Call around to local pawn shops and jewelry stores/coin dealers. You'll eventually find someone with a sigma analytics metal tester that may be willing to let you test it there. In addition to verifying the gold, you can avoid wasting time with a tweaker if they know you're meeting at a place that will test it.
If you can't get an acid test kit, and don't have access to a pawn shop that will test, bring a jewelers loupe and a neodymium magnet. The magnet is a way to rule out cheap fakes, and the loupe can be used to view small hallmarks. Sometimes the hallmark is not easily visible to the naked eye, and even if you can make out '14k', you have to ensure there's not a 'gf' or 'gp' after it.
Youtube will be your best friend for research. It's pretty fun to hunt, like post industrial gold panning

>>53521746
based

>>53521989
How many miles can you run before you start wheezing anon?

>>53522006
That's also an option.

>>53522012
>2. Familiarize yourself with hallmarks
That was my main concern, stuff with fake stamps that an ignorant person might take at face value. I'll definitely do more research before I end up pulling the trigger on anything, thanks again.
I occasionally hear about people finding gold at yard sales that the owners didn't realize they had, so I want to up my identification skills in case I get lucky

Sovs finally turned up, at least they put them in capsules this time. Bought the cheaper 'Mixed date' ones but still got a very fresh 2015 and a 2022, last time was also nice 2014's.

>>53522497
Nice.

Don't take shit from shitskins.

>>53522032
I only run from flying, stinging insects. Also, I'm trying to gain so cardio is a no go, and my opinions regarding cardio remain unchanged.

>>53522560
I take it the poos have been annoying you lately? Go for a run, you'll feel better after about a mile or so.

>>53522497
>at least they put them in capsules this time
Well that was very professional of them. I just received my gold Brit in a fucking plastic flip.

Big happy family now

>>53515582
Man really likes his weiners

>>53520069
how about comes ON a bar

UK anons help. Bullionbypost flat out rejected my order of gold because I didn't have a full (not provisional) driving license or passport, even though I provided everything else; account statements and proof of physical address and a photograph of myself. Will Chards be the same? Do I have to learn how to fucking drive to buy gold in this fucking country?

>>53522826
What fucking authoritarian shithole do you call home?

>>53522826
Atkinson's, anon. Fuck bullionbypost. Best to have your online banking app setup or card reader ready though. I use Barclays, when I make an order it just opens the barclays app automatically and authenticates the transaction, then it closes and the order goes through.

i love seeing the same pm pics in every single thread

>>53522781
Who knew playing with scales could be fun? This is all 50% pre1947

>>53522826
How much did you order? Please don’t tell me you have a full striptease for anything under 10k?!
(Fun fact: most sellers accepting crypto use bitpay and they want that full striptease even for a tiny order, no matter if the government actually cares about it or not, just because, well, fuck you!)

Does any of you anons here have issues with milk spots? It really looks like someone had a bit of precum on my coins. Do you think 1 ozt = 1ozt or does milk spots matter to you? Discuss please.

>>53518875
You very much can ping test if you have decent ears.

Just take a known 80% and a known 50%, flip them, making sure to get some decent nail contact, and just listen to the difference in pitch. After that, flip your junk '67, and match it.

>>53522826
chards wants details after you spend more than 10k cumulative and then its either both passport/license or one and address

Mintanon you double nigger qrd on boomers

>>53519625
Beautiful. I'd love to own a St. Gaudens some day...

update on boomers required, please dont tell me jannies gave you a 7 day vacarion, just update the website

>>53518949
Hahahaha. Nothing shuts up the fuds faster than this little fact. The uber-insiders are piling into gold like Tokyo salarymen into a morning train. There is a REASON for that and it isn't because they just like shiny rocks.

>>53520828
What the other anon said. Almost too small to appreciate the exquisite detail. But still very cool. And made of GOLD!

>>53520889
Yes! That's what Frens are for! I know that PMG has inspired me and caused me to diversify my stack.

>>53522612
I live in London so they are everywhere so I can't even step out of my home for a run without smelling curry (not that they aren't also everywhere all over the West)

>>53522781
Nice stack fren

I got a question, if anyone is knowledgeable about UK CGT laws. Obviously Sovereigns and Britannias are CGT free because they are royal mint legal tender, but what is the status of coins from overseas territories or crown dependencies? For example, would a Guernsey pound gold coin or a Falkland Island pound have the same benefits?

>>53514489
>How much could a casual panner expect to find in a year just going out a couple times a month?
anything between
>nothing
and
>breddy gud
but it's highly unlikely that you'll get rich of it. Multi-gram pans can apparently happen, if you're at a good spot, as can multi-Oz days if you add a sluice or highbanker, but from What I'm seeing, pic related (it's two times the same gold, just trying different lenses) is already considered quite good!
And I don't know how much it is, but I know it's almost nothing…
It's a bit like playing the lottery: Your chances of winning (said multi-gram/Oz pans/days above) are much higher than winning the lottery (but still in no way guaranteed) but your price "money" is much lower.
Hell, I'm happy if I get my gas money back! But mostly, I just bike 5 minutes to my usual spot, less time wasted travelling and no gas to spend.

>>53523784
No, because it's not UK mainland legal tender. However, it should VAT free to buy and sell due to being the recognized legal tender in those places

>>53523838
ah right, cheers for the info

>>53523784
i have no idea anon, but i'm a leaf and i know Canadian law says gold lower than 99.5 purity is taxable, and silver lower than 99.9 is taxable, its why i only stack 999 / 9999 gold

>>53523819
and pic related is also an hour of work, at the same spot but another hole, and I'm sure there must be some pocket with said grams somewhere at that spot, but fuck me if I know which one it is.

>>53517629
Is that one of your self-built rocker boxes? I would have thought they are bigger.

Also:
This:
>>53520009
>Speaking as a person who has been in a real SHTF government collapsing type situation (albeit in a developing nation), I will tell you that the "peaceful" transition will be your experience for 99% of the scenario.
>>53520158
>Some other things to keep in mind:
>>Ukrainian Etsy sellers are still operating right now
>>Coca-Cola and McDonald's have operated in active war zones multiple times
>>Carlsberg, the beer company, continued operating a brewery during the siege of Sarajevo
>>Toyota was running a factory in Saigon during the Vietnam war
I wouldn't rule out
>But this time it's different!
completely, but by and large, humans are quite predictable animals.

>>53523852
Section 3 on the government website has a list of VAT exempt recognized international coins if you want to check out anything else you see:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/investment-gold-coins-and-vat-notice-70121a#sect3

>>53523861
Taxes are bullshit man, if I went and changed up £100 gbp into $165 CAD they wouldn't steal 20% and give me only $135 before even charging the small exchange comission, why is it allowed for PMs?

>>53523784
Nope. CGT free coins in UK must be minted by the Royal Mint.

>>53523934
Most of the overseas territories coins are minted by the RM tho, its not like there's a mint facility on Saint Helena

>>53520889
This was wholesome

>>53523936
It's best to find out yourself if you really want to know.

>>53523990
Ok, time to make £12300 on Gibraltar gold and see if HMRC glowies come for me

Taxes on silver increased in Jeetland sirs. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>53524025
the government is redeeming sirs
DO NOT REDEEM

>>53524025
>mfw no taxes on pms in my state

>>53524231
Stop gloating, I'm going to choke you.

>>53524260
Don't threaten me with a good time ramakrishna singh

>>53524267
You are weird anon.

>>53514226
The validity of a statement does not depend on the website where it is made you fucking retard.

>>53523864
I just bought a new gold claim in bc, I will be changing the water output on my sluice this weekend and hopefully be out there in a few weeks to start exploring

>>53524335
I just bought a new funko pop for the collection in my mancave, I will be buying a new set of IKEA shelves this weekend and hopefully be hiring a contractor to put it together for me

>>53524383
my kids think funko pop toys are lame

HELL YES!

My Jewish intuition was right and the seller agreed to my lowball offer, just bought this 40 piece midcentury sterling silver flatware set for $212 total. I expect a melt value around $1,000 but will update upon arrival. Feels really fucking good bros, scrap-pill FTW.

40 new coins just arrived. 45 oz in total.

>>53524595
I see a coin there that is just begging to get hammered.

>>53524335
>>53524383
I’m jelly! No claims and funko pops where I’m at. But lots of lead.

>>53524617
what did leafs do to you anon

>>53515347
>what are these worth?
About 6 million

>>53524383
>funk pop
>not nendoroid
That ground is weak

A few days ago an old friend messaged me for advice about a stash of constitutional silver he lucked upon, final tally is 700 quarters, 128 halves and 580 dimes. Pretty amazing treasure score, he wasn't a stacker or collector before but spent 2 months studying the coins under magnification for errors and rarities and learned a shitload in the process. He says he may need to sell a little to cover bills but is hustling at work to try to avoid selling, worst case he'll keep at least 2/3rds including all the Mercs and Walkers because he now understands the value and appeal of precious metals. I periodically talked about coins with him and his older brother who started collecting uncirculated Morgans a while ago after lots of exposure and encouragement from me, makes me very happy that he now understands too and has a 200oz instastack so won't get totally screwed when the dollar dies. He knows it was likely a once in a lifetime find and doesn't intend to squander it. My vicarious happiness is off the charts knowing he's GMI.

>>53524617
That's how you tamp the price down.

>>53525380
Amazing score

>>53524383
Only Nendoroids in the IKEA shelves here

>>53517199
Russian Empire 5 Kopecks.
Hefty coins. They are like 35-40g each (don't remember exactly).

True story: About ~2010 I was at a metro station in Las Vegas and put a $10 bill in the machine and as part of my change it gave me TWO CEC tokens!!!! But I was on my way to the airport, so there really wasn't shit I could do about it. Seemed appropriate for Vegas. I've never been back.

>>53525380
How do i get to clean old boomers' houses and keep the stuff i find? This is literally my dream job.

>>53517213
Old copper pennies have more value as 'old copper pennies' than as copper bullion. A lot more.

>>53524293
That's correct

>>53517831
>less US dollars
fewer*, ESLnigger

If the object is singular, use "less": less air, less water, less fish, less money, less faggotry...
If the object is plural (in general, if it ends in 's'), use "fewer": fewer cars, fewer fish, fewer dollars, fewer faggots...

>>53525380
>127ozt in quarters
>46ozt in halves
>42ozt in dimes
>215ozt find
That's absolutely awesome

>>53525380
My friend asked me about PMs and I told him to buy physical and ETFs, its sad that he doesn't want to own physical. I have an uncle, he wants to trade silver and he is not in for the long term. It makes me sad. I only tell very close friends, most of them are afraid of holding physical.

Anons, what's your goal for this year? I'm stacking towards 1000ozt in just silver this year.

>>53514065
pénisz

>>53526335
>goal for this year
To keep up with series that are still active (Egyptian gods, EC8, Chronos, Terra...), get firsts of new series, and build the gold stack(let).

>>53526427
I want to get a couple ounces of gold too I'm at 8 ozt, and I want to hit 10 ozt soon.

>>53524452
Pajeet scammers will burn in hell.

>>53526335
KYS stiky poo pajeet

>>53523089
Well that's a weird looking quarter.

>>53524595
>2017 50th Anniversary Silver Krug

Severely underrated coin

>>53525990
pretty sure they're still worth ten cents

>>53525983
>How do i get to clean old boomers' houses and keep the stuff i find? This is literally my dream job.

Start your own or go to work for house cleanout or "got junk" trash removal company? My brother's girlfriend works under her dad who is a maintenance/property manager for an apartment rental company with something like 1,200 units, with so many to manage they frequently have to empty out apartments where the renter stopped paying rent and disappeared, went to prison or died and they get to keep whatever they want. Bro's girlfriend has found several nice handguns, gold jewelry and silver coins, valuable collectibles, cash, quality gadgets, appliances and electronics and has furnished her place with the best furniture gleaned from those cleanouts. This is all in less than 6 months working for the company, seems pretty fuckin' legit.

>>53526260
I've been friends with the guy since 2005 and from the start exposed him to numismatics, antiques and knowledge of PMs, I'm sure it helped but he had to figure it out on his own. Don't lose hope for your friends and family, circumstance may eventually make things click for them. All you can do is help arm them with some core knowledge and be there with guidance if they come around to it.

>>53526335
I plan to hoard as much as I can get my hands on maintaining an average under $10/ozt asw, same as last year. I also want to expand my beefy copper/bronze coin collection, I've been learning about the huge Asian cash coins and while fakes are everywhere I should be able to find some genuine hockey-puck size monsters to fondle.

>>53526592
cope

>>53520028
was gonna go with the round but it was out of stock

>>53527175
Nice. My 1857 40 Centesimos is in far better condition than yours. I don't have a cartwheel tho.

>>53524846
Beware, beware the northern wake
Of slumbering men remembering
When drowsiness lifts for then begins
The Terrible Day of the Rake

Is now a good or bad time to buy and sell gold

>>53523243
frfr on god mintanon be sussin rn

>>53521230
kek. my dad traps raccoons in his garage in rural Ontario. He sells the pelts and I've always wondered what is done with them.

>you can avoid wasting time with a tweaker

lots of my best deals have been from drug addicts.

>>53524452
is it labelled sterling? Good deal.

>>53527371
Yeah I got the cheapest 40 centesimos I could find, was only about $11 shipped. I'm an inveterate fondler so don't really want to buy pieces that are too nice to handle. I'd like one of the even bigger 1844 40 centesimos but they're hard to find. I highly recommend the cartwheel 2 pence, very nice production quality and a full 56 grams. You might want to look for ancient Ptolemaic Egypt bronze drachms if you're into bigbois, nice ones can be had for under $200 if you shop around. The earlier ones are ~65g each, very impressive especially considering they're from the 3rd century BC. They made a monster ~90+g octobol (1 and 1/3 drachm) but a nice one will set you back over a grand.

>>53526335
based poojeet. when they're done with asia everyone from mongolia to korea will be indistinguishable from a south indian.

maybe the real wealth is the friendships and good times shared here

>>53521878
gold around spot isn't that hard to come by. It's gold with good diamonds that you don't see that often around spot.

>>53514566
with all due respect, choke on a filthy prick

>>53524452
show a screenshot of the sale if its from ebay. i want to see what the key words in the listing title were

>>53517294
as long as you're not selling the ingots it actually doesn't matter

>>53517629
blessed image

>>53528401
They didn't mention sterling anywhere in the listing and pics of the marks were too blurry to make out, it turned up in one of my efficient proprietary search strings. I recognized the pattern then quickly confirmed that it is good sterling by double-checking the pattern on replacements.com. As you know well from your gold jewelry conquests it pays to have a good eye, it gives you a significant edge over plebs who need everything to be super obvious and all spelled-out for them. No way I'd routinely get cheapie silver if it was all properly advertised as such.

>>53528952
I'll happily share a screenshot or link once it has been delivered, don't want any seething faggots to spoil the deal before I get it though.

>>53529184
based. pic related was one i already shared but it had lots of winners. I already made my money back on the lot. There's one not shown in the picture... 50g of 10k for 1585CAD including tax and shipping. And not junk... lots of winners in the lot.

>>53520727
but I took CSIII

>>53528286
it is always a good time to buy
it is always a bad time to sell

>>53528286
I don't.know jackshit but I saw that Central banks started hoarding like dragons so that might mean some bull movements.
Yet it's at an all time high because of 2008 then covid ??
In the long run probably always a good buy depending on your motives

>>53529295
pic related is the quality of the pics in the original listing kek.

>>53529326
Hah yeah I love crappy pics when I actually have some experience with the class of item being sold, keeps the ignorant noobs away. Glad the deal worked out I was worried some of the pieces might be a bit too thin and lightweight, I don't have much experience with gold jewelry. How long have you been reselling gold, do you just flip on etsy or are there other good platforms? What are the selling fees like there?

>>53529528
etsy is 6% fees. I've been doing it for a couple of years. My first big winning lottery ticket was the 26g 10k masonic badge that I got for $100 CAD a while back. The same guy sold me a heavy NOS 14k birks watch for around $100 -- can't remember the price. Sold it for $1700.

Now I buy and sell from other bullion dealers, random people, etc. I have a pretty good bank roll now so I can get good lots periodically when they come up. I think once you get to $125,000 bankroll with good cash flow you can start buying bigger lots. The problem for most people is they dont have access to capital. And, if you do you get the steals.

>>53529784
Benny -- the friend of Moses the Jeweler is the kind of gold and diamond broker I want to be. He has a good bank roll and is always buying good scrap lots and brokering them with contacts around the country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGVhxcqRnuw

>>53529784
Very nice, i know some of the unmarked 19th century police and fireman badges and old fraternal medals are good karat gold but haven't found any myself. A 6% fee sounds so much better than eBay. I flip some silver stuff occasionally but they really take their pound of flesh, I'll give etsy a look thanks fren.

>>53526335
Basically my plan is to have enough silver that one day I could dump an entire chest of coins on my goblin (female) and she would squeal with glee while getting buried and then I'd pull dig her out and we'd fuck on top of the bullion and leave plenty of milkspots and none of you can stop me.

>>53514065
Today you could have bought anything and made money, but the trick will be keeping it.

>>53529911
i think if i was going to make money i'd make sterling silverware with modern designs. most of the sterling flatware floating around is so old and outdated and i think people would buy the new stuff. pic related is tiffany's modern 925 flatware but you could make your own company that does the same thing.

>>53530002
real sterling will be too expensive
electroplate maybe

>>53530084
real sterling would be a luxury good. there's no shortage of people in the world with money.

>>53530002
>most of the sterling flatware floating around is so old and outdated and i think people would buy the new stuff. pic related is tiffany's modern 925 flatware but you could make your own company that does the same thing.

I get what you're saying but their Audubon pattern is essentially identical to their old "Japanese" pattern from the 1870s. What's old is new again.

>>53530136
you can make new patterns senpai.

>>53529319
>>53529323
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new bread
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>>53530160
My brother and I are hashing out a business idea involving more simply manufactured silver items that no one is making right now, maybe if it works out we could branch into flatware but the tooling and technical complexity of making stuff like that competitively is too much to navigate ATM.

>>53524231
>>53524260
Im still confused on the whole taxing pms thing in certain states.
If I take 100 pesos and convert it to USD at a money exchange in a state with tax on PMs, it wouldn't be taxed (im almost certain, I could be wrong)
How is it legal to tax PMs which are government backed coins? I understand rounds and bars as they're technically a commodity, but government backed coins are currency-to-currency and should never be taxed.

>>53529988
A choice selection of coins

>>53516136
>>53517860
What really got the fire under my butt to get me to save more was the realization that for everything I buy there is now something else I can never have. This is obvious when you think about it, but you really have to FEEL it; you're limited in how much money you're going to make before you die, it's like you've got a fixed income you can't fully use yet so you really need to understand that every purchasing opportunity you use you lose one. Make sure you're getting exactly what you want most for the price because you're losing something else for it always

>>53529295
Good deal. Made about 200 canuckibucks on the gold content.