/biz/ - Business & Finance

Poop.

>>53479250
Is that picrel David the gnome?

>MFW someone around me thinks stocks could possibly go lower from here.

Fucking retards.

Is fortune pronounced like "four toon", "fort chun" or "fork cun"

>>53479272
four chewn

>>53479271
>margin debt at lowest levels since 2017
>retail btfo a year ago
>nothing ever happens
Up we go, lads. You’re early.

>>53479272
/ˈfôrCHən/

every day I must anew confront the idea that I am here forever and it never gets any easier. /smg/ just won't die

I'm trying to negotiate a peace treaty here on 4chan, between the Indian Scammers and White people.
Shake hands.

>>53479272
In proper English it’s fohtyoon. In burger it’s forchun.

anyone wonder who movie anon is? does he regularly post throughout the week? or does he just arrive on movie nights? We may never know

>>53479267
Holy shit that is David the Gnome
I haven’t seen that cartoon since the early 90’s
That gives me the nostalgic feels

It's over for SOXL

>>53479298
he used to do the ding ding ding eod ritual posting restaurants, but he stopped doing that. If he has something to say, he will do it with a tarot card image attached.

BOIL

why do spammers like this board so much? every time i look for the stock general i see cocks or some other unrelated gay shit there

I cant wait to hear how inflation accelerating again is bullish for equities

I miss scoopsies...

>>53479317
02/23 $14 ?

>>53479351
I wonder what they look like now, 10 years later

>>53479357
$140

>>53479272
None of those.
It’s ‘four-chun’

>>53479371
Yes.

This is what successful smg posters look like.

>made massive returns on simple boomerstocks all through 2021 and 2022
>all through threats of global recession
recession this year though right guys

>>53479397
Forchun is correct. Its how the french would pronounce it and its a French-latin loanword.

Intelchuds, not like this...

Thinking of buying $25k SCHD or JEPQ next week. I have $15k left for some calls, what do I buy? SPY?

>>53479469
>Revenue down 40% YoY

>>53479469
wtf is PPT?

>>53479469
Those losses are almost as bad as SKYT

>>53479491
Poopoo Peepee Time

Mumu euphoria will cease

>>53479469
>>53479491
>>53479512
no but seriously what does it mean, they keep using it. google doesnt say shit.

>>53479551
Percentage PoinTs

Is it financially wise to take and store my own blood in case of emergency to avoid a need for gay nigger blood?m or will a blood chest attract vampires?

I bought MARA $8 calls (8.95 break even) expiring 2/3. Average price is .79. How’d I do?

>>53479557
So they use PPT when it's not a whole number percent? Really stupid

>>53479579
No, it's an important difference
50% + 2% = 51%
50% + 2ppt = 52%

>>53479559
Kramer?

How do I profit off this?

>>53479612
so basically it's just avoiding the misunderstanding of multiplicative percentage changes rather than additive changes.

i see now that the PPT is always in relation to another percentage rather than dollar value

when it goes from $10->$5 they use a negative 50% value and not 50ppt

>>53479469
should I apply for options at my broker so I can buy 2024 puts?

>stock at all time highs
>lets do a buyback now

>>53479743
we have to compete with china and saudi arabia oil. to do that our oil juggernauts need higher market cap

>>53479758
buybacks dont change market cap

>>53479743
They're just that rich. They can flex on everyone by buying this low.

>>53479768
kys catposter

>>53479250
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>>53479289
>>53479298
>>53479339
>>53479351
>>53479397
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>>53479771
>already this many 1pbtids
The shills are out in full force today. Wow.

>>53479250
Ishimuko cloud. This leading part cloud. Does it literally predict how the price will go? if red dump, if green pump ?

>>53479803
I live in the Ichimoku Cloud building on East 88th Street on the 666th floor. My name is Heiken Ashi. I’m 10 years old. I believe in posting frogs, and dropping redpills about the jews and upsetting jannies. In the morning, if my face is a little puffy, I’ll put on an Elliot Wave while drawing triangles. I can draw a thousand now. After I remove the Elliot Wave I use a Stoch RSI cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a MACD activated oscillator, then a Fibonacci body scrub, and on the face a Bollinger scrub. Then I apply an EMA Cloud facial masque which I leave on for 1 minute while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use a Renko shave lotion with little or no divergence, because divergence dries your face out and makes you look older. Then a Hash Ribbon, then a Moving Average eye balm followed by a final moisturizing stoploss lotion. There is an idea of a Heiken Ashi. Some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me. Only an entity. Something illusory. And though I can hide my poopoo, and you can suck my peepee and feel my cum in your mouth, and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable, I simply am not there.

>>53479662
I hate women so fucking much.

>>53479803
Yeah man, superior Japanese charts folded 1000 times over.

>>53479802
ok boomer

>>53479811
This is high quality

>>53479811
What the fuck? D
However the existence of such a narrative confirms that ichimoku works.

>>53479811
is this new? this is funny and strange.

>>53479811
kino

>>53479811
very good anon

With Russia focused so much on exploiting its energy. I would have thought they would also have more services there for their technology rather than rely on western designs + jury rigging

>>53480009
Яндeкc is pretty big over there. The only other one I know of is Petya, but that one's shady.

>>53479933
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>>53479994
>1pbtid
samefag

>>53480037
yea well youre just a fag, period

May somebody please look into Coupang and see if it is worth it? Falling population but biggest internet population. Big Bill Jates in at 17 a share. PLz help /biz

>>53480061
They're still hiring and haven't laid anyone off so it'll at least weather this storm

>>53480061
>Bill Gates's position in Coupang is currently worth $149 Million. That's 0.40% of their equity portfolio
>0.40%
Well, the chart looks good. I'd go in if it closes above 17.10.. tech earnings and Fed nonsense next week is a minefield, as well as coupang reporting earnings in march... looks like they just flipped profitable last Q, if they do it again she might rip.. or.. if it fails.. look out below. Thanks, i'll probably sell puts on it..

>>53480076
Do you think the current price is worth backing the truck up, or would DCA be better?

>>53479743
Better than letting cash rot at 10% a year or non-consensual taxation.

>>53480124
dont listen to anybody but yourself. why do you even want to buy the stock out of every other stock? if you dont have a reason it will outperform then why are you talking about it anyway

>>53480119
Yeah, I've been running the wheel between $15 and $20 but starting to think I want to just throw it all in and hope for a 5 year multi-bagger.

>>53480124
AH man I just looked at that chart. It just drilled during 2021, the year of the ultra retard giga pump. What do they even do? The description appears to be the usual ecommerce company word salad. Remember that every rich person that has to publicly disclose trades always throws one for the wreckage brother.

>>53480061
Buy SoftBank

>>53480140
If you're that comfortable with options, then maybe a LEAPS. Less cost, same exposure, roll it out annually and sell OTM calls to reduce cost over time.. that way you can use the rest of your capital for other bets, and your max loss it just the premium in case it dumps or again just roll out and wait.

>>53480158
They deliver veggies to apartment dwellers! They also have a media company and do a ton of domestic shipping of goods. It is essentially a large warehouse and distribution center for the most internet integrated population on earth.

Threadly reminder that dividends are irrelevant. If you want a bit of cash from your stocks, you can sell some.

>>53480169
I don't think they are publicly traded on an American Exchange? And they are just a lame bank essentially. I like Coupang because it is a high revenue company pulling in like 20B a year with increasing margins. Looking at how Tesla blew up after reaching profitability and other companies have a similar tale. They are right on the verge of hitting profitability and its going to go gang busters over the next 5 years in my opinion. It has also been a solid company for selling weekly puts with decent premiums.

>>53480245
Qualified dividends after 60 day hold. Lower tax rate. Great for swing trading.
How is this not relevant?

>>53480271
he's retarded and posts it every thread and gets btfo every time

>>53480119
>Chart looks good
Lol, in USD, in Gold or in Wons? Like you look at a 2D graph and you get great insights into a company? Hahaha, amazing the financial illiteracy on /biz/

>>53479491
points, their gross margin was 53.6%. now 39.2, down 14.1 points yoy on a GAAP basis. Btw, this wasn't an earnings report, it was a crime scene.

biotechs?????????????? are drugs the new tech

>>53480290
shhhh mongrel. Yes. you can trade, and make money by looking at price action. Dont @ me.

>>53480290
USD, you chump. Bring something to the table

Is anyone bullish on SOXL at opening? Im talking laying a kidney bullish

>>53480289
I'm aware. I had hopes of starting a conversation on tax optimization strategies.

>>53480303
CPUH

>>53480297
margin is sort of irrelevant since they are fixed costs. the real kicker was the revenue which i agree was rape.

>>53480271
Dividend irrelevance does not take taxes and trading costs into account.
When bizraelis talk about how good dividend stocks are, is that what they mean? That after 60 days, dividends are taxed at the long-term capital-gains rate?

>>53479490
If only you knew how much worse things are about to get.

>>53480331

What's going on in this picture

>>53480382
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>>53480297
You guys the whole idea by intel is to apply for the Biden's gibs. They started this accounting scam in early 2022.

hotel fu?

>>53479371
His nose has grown to full Jewish capacity for sucking uo free air.

>>53479743
Ben Graham has an explicit response to this. He argues that this is the leadership of a company overtly acting against the interest of the investor. Stock buybacks at a price high is just an opportunity for management to convert their stock options to cash for a payday. Buybacks should only be done at stock downturns and otherwise stocks should offer a dividend. Ben Graham explicitly says that it is an insult for a company to do this and they are calling their investors stupid. Since Graham has defined modern investing, it’s safe to say that everyone understands the meaning here.

>>53480425
No, Intel is actually that fucked.

>>53480425
lol

>>53479743
not my problem

>>53479802
sorry i dont have 12 hours a day to shitpost in the same general qt

How do I make IRL friends that aren't wagebots and who want to make it? Everyone I know makes up reasons why they shouldn't try when confronted with an opportunity.

>>53480656
You don't.

>>53480443
I lol'd

>>53480352
i was merely explaining ppts. But operating margin, was down to 3.7 from 24.6 and that does matter. The fundamentals are atrocious, and when they finally cut the dividend, fundamentals will go out the window, panic driven herd mentality will be in full control. INTC will be a bloodbath by eoy.

Kazatomprom on Friday evening announced they're cutting production for 2023 due to inability to source enough sulfuric acid. Are you ready, uranium accumulators?

>>53480868
every time uranium twitter says its happening, it never happens

>>53480879
It's like a cult, I know. Except this time it is happening. I'm a time traveler from the future.

>chat gpt biz prompt
So I just started investing in the stock market and I was feeling pretty good about myself.
But then I remember my grandpa telling me, 'Son, if you want to make money, you gotta invest in land.
So I sold all my stocks and bought a piece of farmland.
Now I sit on my porch, watch my crops grow, and laugh at all those stock traders still stressing over the market

>>53480879
amazing things take time

>>53480887
fuck yeah brother

I’m now at 6X the size of rockler’s youtuber channel, and I literally gained the 1X the size of his in just this past month

>>53480957
what do you even do

>>53480968
this is me: https://youtube.com/@KindsonTheTechPro

>>53480887
>>53480879
>>53480868

If the fed isn't hawkish like everyone expect them to be wednesday the short squeeze could be biblical

>>53480957
i watch all of rocker's videos but i dont sub to any youtube channels. watching some reruns right now actually

>>53481031
I’ve never subbed to him either, t b h, because it would help him doxx me.

I just noticed that I actually haven’t passed him on views yet.
I’m not that far behind though and I’m definitely getting views at a much faster rate.

Hard dump Monday open.

>>53480656
invest in an expensive suit, wait outside wall street brokerages Friday evening and follow them to whatever bars they go to, then you must do the impossible for a 4chan basement dweller, schmooze and socialize with desk jockey sellers and actually be liked enough for them to hand out phone numbers

>>53481089
god I hope so

>>53479250
I'm buying $CALM, even more egg farms are burning down...

>>53481018
>the market pumped euphorically while expecting FOMC to be bearish

pairs trading semiconductors vs. video games

>Manage to time a breakout really well
>Now have a decent profit
>Get greedy cause I thought I was a genius and that my profit taking target will surely hit(I was just lucky)
>Trade reverses and I have to exit with a small loss

Do you anons have any advice for how to tell when the trade has turned against you and to secure green while you can? I am slowly trying to accept that I will never manage to time the exact tops and not to trade in hindsight

>>53481195
I sell 50% and set a stop loss somewhere above the initial buy. It's a noob strat but works wonders for me.

>>53480868
I have literally been waiting two years to get in on uranium.

>>53480139
I buy them cause I liek them.

>>53481089
We did 7 points on the SPY last mon. Tues we got whipsawed.

Earnings and Event calender Mon 30th are weak. Tues it ramps up bigly. The same scenario as last week Mon the 23rd

Haven't seen /smg/ mention it yet, but Israel & America have bombed Iran after the EU/US increased sanctions a few days ago. This is going to increase in intensity over the next few weeks. They see the opportunity as ripe for the Iranian people to rise up and kick out the IRGC. It's now or never. Trade wisely.

https://news.yahoo.com/explosions-reported-across-iran-military-084400692.html

>>53481195
learn to trail stop loss, which can both be used as a regular stop loss and profit exit if it remains open long enough.

hint: trailing stop losses just mean it's a self-adjusting stop that either adjusts up, or stays put until triggered

warning: stops do not protect you from gap ups/downs so be mindful of those. only way to hedge against this is with options contracts but that's a whole nother can of worms

>>53481139
I agree, but puts for wednesday just looks to easy. If the market dumps because the fed members speak hawkish after the hike it would be the 4th times it happens in this bear market. Surely it can't be this retarded (it can)

>>53481260
I thought a stop loss automatically sells/buys at the specific point you set it as.

>>53481260
>>53481221
>trailing stop loss
This goes back to not trading in hindsight cause during my previous trade before my post, I did exactly that and managed to secure profits, but then the share price rallied after I exited. I'm going to try to be stricter with it. Thanks anons

>>53481294
VTSO, but they're not very useful.

so when we are going to dump? it has to dump at some point

>>53481256
Nothing ever happens.

>>53481328
This week seems like the perfect time to crash the market (JPow week+earnings for big companies like McDs, Apple, AMD, and Starbucks) but who knows.

>>53481334
Russia invading Ukraine happened last year. Covid happened a couple of years before. Boomers are passing the torch. We're in a decade of happenings.

>>53481347
based and happeningpilled?

>>53481287
Don't think too short term about how the market/algos will immediately react, if FOMC doesn't make pivooters happy it will end euphoria

>>53481256
oil only goes up

>>53481347
>>53481334
The super shemita ended a few months ago. The markets dropped, now it's the economy, and the markets can rise again

>>53480567

>>53481338
starbucks and AMD I can see a dump, but not McDonald's. People are eating out at expensive places anymore and even groceries like eggs and lettuce are shooting up in prices.

>>53481408
Even mocdonalds isn't as cheap as it used to be though anon.

>>53481294
a stop becomes a market order, so you can get fucked very easily

the only true control a retailer has is with the initial volume put in the order

>>53479267
My sister cried when he died. (Sorry for spoilers)

>>53481195
Chris Cathey says you should cut a trade at 10%, no emotion, and then just reassess the situation. I kinda like that. That way you lose small and win bigger. Profit taking target would be 20% so maybe set a stop-loss at +10% profit like this guy
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>>53481154
>Pic
This is the last of these I will post until I complete the entire portfolio

>>53481338

How do you guess the direction of the market?

>>53481782
I always guess it will go up and I am right most of the time.

I am NEVER getting another vaccine

Inflation will never be below 2%,

Is there any chance of 50 beepiss? What would the indicators be for Jerome to do this?

>>53481600
Thank you anon. I'm watching his videos on youtube and two of the things he also said was that you need patience for the trades to play out and that you need proper risk management and emotion. Looking at some of the charts I have, trading on daily closes would've been perfectly fine and reached my profit targets. Maybe I just need to trade on longer time frames

>>53480868
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>>53481235
URANIUM KINGS WILL INHERIT THE EARTH

>>53482209
>The economy is quite strong, so we believe it can handle a 50bps hike

>>53481782
I guess that it will go down and eventually it does, but not before I beheem myself.

>>53482209
25 v 50 doesn't matter - it's going to be 25
what matters is forward guidance for the Fed and their timeline for hiking
the Fed is likely to give some guidance on future rate increases of 25 bps, and then how long they will hold rates that high
the market is expecting cuts by July, so the Fed could squash these hopes by saying something similar to the bank of canada
>we are not even thinking about thinking about cutting rates

>>53482209
https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html
98.4% chance of 25 bps, 1.6% for no hike. The Fed always follows whatever the bond market prices in and therefore it will be 25 bps. Anyone still bearish at this point with inflation annualized already almost back to 2% and only two 25 bps hikes remaining is a permabear schizo.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1619560033985130496
trannybros... they're making fun of us...

>>53482328
>doesn’t know dot plot

>>53482374
>Anyone still bearish at this point with inflation annualized already almost back to 2%
Are you sure about that, bud?
https://www.forexlive.com/news/us-december-pce-core-inflation-44-vs-44-expected-20230127/
>Under the covers of this report, the Fed might not like seeing services inflation up 0.7% m/m...Powell has expressed worry about core services inflation remaining high and said that's why they plan to hike to 5.00-5.25% and stay there.
0.7% MoM services = 8.73% annualized
https://www.clevelandfed.org/indicators-and-data/inflation-nowcasting
>January 2023
>CPI: 0.58
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/27/business/gas-prices-increase-inflation/index.html
>Gas prices are rocketing higher.
>All told, the national average has climbed by more than 9% since the end of last year – the biggest increase to start a year since 2009
>Since tumbling to $71.02 a barrel on December 9, US oil prices have jumped about 16%, to around $82.30 on Friday.
>“Instead of $4 a gallon happening in May, it could happen as early as March,” De Haan told CNN. “There is more upside risk than downside risk.”
>A return of $4 gas would be painful to drivers and could dent consumer confidence. Moreover, pain at the pump would complicate the inflation picture as the Federal Reserve debates whether to slow its interest rate hiking campaign.
>The Cleveland Fed’s Inflation Nowcasting model is now pointing to a 0.6% month-over-month increase for the Consumer Price Index for January. If that holds true, it would represent a significant acceleration compared with the 0.1% drop in prices between November and December.
>0.6% MoM CPI
>0.6% MoM CPI
0.6% MoM CPI = 7.44% annualized
>Anyone still bearish at this point with inflation annualized already almost back to 2%
>Anyone still bearish at this point with inflation annualized already almost back to 2%
>Anyone still bearish at this point with inflation annualized already almost back to 2%
You want to take that back, bud?

>>53482419
It's just a shitpost cause Nick Timiraos already confirmed 25bps anyway

>>53481347
>a decade of happenings.
aaaaahahaha hell yeah.. if that's the case i'm willing to give the zealots a couple freebies but i want a complete 4 year horseman set this 20's.

> bear sniffing around market bottom in October
Come clean bobos, how many of you shorted SPY when it was at $350

>>53480245
Just time the market... twice. Sell at good price and buy back something that will go up in prace too. How hard could this be I wonder.

>>53480981
Checked instagram architecture video. Just generic shit that you can learn by going though most basic Sysop training. I know you're memeing with this channel. I just hope you're actually producing something of value.

>>53481411

Damn right. The cheapest thing on the breakfast menu, the sausage biscuit, is 1.70+ now. Formerly it was 1.00. I used to get two of them plus a small coffee for 3.18. Can only imagine it when I'm an old 60 year old. Christ.

>>53482423
>words words words
There is literally no reason to be bearish, take your meds and dilate.

Buy Akamai

>>53482423
Pretty much same in Europe with one difference being that the inflation just keeps increasing and the banks refusing to rate hike... and yet the markets just keep fuckin pumping. More than 30% over the last three months. And the worst thing is that it's actually kind of justified since most companies once again posted record earnings.
We would need some really really bad news to counter this giga pump bro.
Companies keep increasing prices and consumers just keep buying. Recession my ass bro. I have once again fuckin missed the generational bottom... ngmi

>>53482700
i thought that there was a rate hike plan that they will follow no matter what

more OC for /smg/

>>53482784
>>53482630
you are the guy on the right

>>53482727
The ECB is full of complete shiet and have been discussing this for quite some time now. Instead of keeping the inflation in check by continually checking on it and keeping a nice balance, they do grossly insufficient rate hikes far too late in the game.
Thanks to gas once again having been defeated, inflation as a whole has decreased in some countries like Germany but that's about it. The core inflation is still fugged. But that's actually not the worst part. It would be at least somewhat fine if people cared but that's the thing. This shiet is becoming normalized and I've started hearing people saying that this inflationary environment is fine since their salary is going to get increased by an extra 0.3%. Fuckin kek

>>53482727
There is. You missed it. Stay poor, idiot.

>>53482784
I appreciate the effort but
>services
>shelter
>he's not focusing on superdupercore inflation

>>53480957
still too much of a pussy to post your channel

You know how a $5 Big Mac a year ago can inflate to be a $4-with-coupon Big Mac using shittier ingredients?

Same thing with share prices.

>>53482784
>drawing 'i am silly' comics to cope with losses

>>53482816
poors in my country have much better life quality than most mutts could even dream off and lets not even talk about the dictator led countries

So....
What do we think about WISA? 230ish % short interest on this shitty home theater speaker producer after a 100-1 reverse stock split to avoid being delisted. Is it another potential meme squeeze or just puts into oblivion?

>>53482795
Based, not a midwit.
>>53482784
All of that shit you spewed in that image is priced in. Also love the chud conspiracy theory about the SPR and Biden. He didn't release the SPR for political reasons, he did it for the good of the American people, /pol/tard.

>>53482784
Are you shorting bonds right now?

>>53482784
mucho texto

>>53482971
>He didn't release the SPR for political reasons

>>53482784
I'm sorry that you lost money. Don't short generational bottom next time.

>>53482971
You have to be 18+ to post here.

>>53482998
Why is every bobo I've ever encountered a conspiracy theorist? Bobos are almost always antivaxx, antisemitic, far right retards. I guess you guys enjoy losing at everything so you figured you'd lose money as well, loser.

>>53483014
Would you faggots get off the copium. We aren't even in feburary yet. The first we will know with certainty.

>>53483024
we did not even sink back to october lows first

Tomorrow I sell my £300 portfolio and start again but with £1000. Reason being in the UK you can invest £20k a year with no tax concerns its all tax free your earnings. I forgot about this so I have to switch over to it. Going to be sad to lose my current miniportfolio but I can start again. I might put £600 or so into meta then £50-100 in some various stocks.

>>53483035
About to, CPI is expected to run .3 by analysts. Last two have been surprise lowers. Wonder what happens if it prints .6 though? hint: its eggcellent for me

>>53483024
I really don't care about your predictions. Macro economy understanding of average /smg/ poster is limited to the "current thing" being promoted in media. Most people ignore other important things simply because they are not being talked about.

>BTC going up
>40% shorted
I suggest having a position in MARA.

Rate my portfolio:
$6k SKYT (bases $4k)
$4k JXN (bases $3.5k)
$3.5k ZIM (based $3k)
$30k cash

>>53479272

4chan

You stupid double nigger

>>53483023
I’m antisemetic, far right, and slightly bullish though

>>53482971
>He didn't release the SPR for political reasons
I mean look. There is an argument to be made that he did it to buy time to rearrange oil supply chains for our European allies (not that that actually happened as the free world is STILL buying oil from R*ssia at $60/bbl plus tip). But it was definitely also for political reasons.

>>53483023
>tfw no myocarditis because I'm an antivaxxtard
I really fucked up

>>53483076
>meta
is that really a good idea? they have that ridiculous failure and money sink metaverse and some social media platforms... is that really going to give them growth and get them back the money they wasted on that shitty vrchat clone?

>>53483178
>2 more weeks till the market crashes
>2 more weeks till the vaxxies start dying
>2 more weeks till the evil pharma companies get exposed
You need to start living in reality, bobo.

>>53482907
230% short interest sounds like a fucking slot machine. Good luck if you wanna touch it anon

I am financially bored.
Any interesting books you're reading /smg/?

>>53483023
you post on 4chan and you are not anti-semitic? how did you manage that? why do you not post on reddit?

>>53480245
Buy low sell high. Work harder

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-27/car-repossessions-grow-as-inflation-slams-consumers
https://archive.. ph/xAcpA
>Americans Fall Behind on Car Payments at Higher Rate Than in 2009
>Automobile repossessions are climbing as inflation forces struggling consumers to make tough choices.
>Without a car, he couldn’t do his job as a delivery driver for Amazon and got fired. Now, he’s struggling to make his rent payments and can’t afford groceries, even with food stamps.
>Now, more Americans are falling behind on their car payments than during the financial crisis. In December, the percentage of subprime auto borrowers who were at least 60 days late on their bills rose to 5.67%, up from a seven-year low of 2.58% in April 2021, according to Fitch Ratings. That compares to 5.04% in January 2009, the peak during the Great Recession.
>5.67%...compares to 5.04% in January 2009, the peak during the Great Recession
>there’s a strong chance he won’t be able to make the payments in subsequent months, especially now that he’s unemployed.
delinquencies are now higher than they were during the great 08-09 - this is fine! don't worry about it mumu! don't worry that delinquencies are already sky high, when the recession hasn't even really gotten bad yet. certainly it will not get worse as more and more people are laid off. certainly people who are getting laid off will be able to afford their $1,000 a month car payments, on a vehicle that is now worth much less than the debt owed

Do I smell cheapies?

>>53482636
Fuck those guys. Thier building control software sucks ass. 20 fucking emails saying water is leaking somewhere. 20 fucking emails saying an air conditioner is alarming. What alarm? Where? Who the fuck knows? But 1 email buried in there for a breaker trip that actually matters.

>>53483209
Just a fun gamble. I think metaverse has more utility than the doubters

>>53483317
>may
I work for usps and i got a close friend at the ups. i recently talk to him and his coworkers about work and shit at a bar and never heard them talk about a strike. maybe you should talk to someone who works for the ups to get a feel around the truth around the rumor so that way your puts will print.

>>53483076
>Tomorrow I sell my £300 portfolio and start again but with £1000
Bong bro. I know wages are low there but surely you can scratch together $10k USD equivalent. At $1k you genuinely should worry about cash-on-hand and avoiding debt.

Also there is no point in positions sizes <$1k. Think about the amount of research you are doing vs the amount of potential return if you outperform. The numbers just don't add up.

>>53483361
He's a tripfag, you can't talk to him as if he's a human
He's terminally retarded

>>53483361
He's a gambling degenerate who puts all his money away in stocks to prevent himself from gambling it away

>>53482805
>I've started hearing people saying that this inflationary environment is fine since their salary is going to get increased by an extra 0.3%
How is anyone affording anything with high inflation and crazy energy prices? A lot of Europeans were just getting by as it is, how can the market be so optimistic that the consumer will stay strong?

>>53483361
is this manga worth it or is it just a meme translation?

>>53483430
>how can the market be so optimistic that the consumer will stay strong?
delusions - also the average person who is investing / interested in the market is much better off financially than the average consumer
investors are out of touch with reality, and don't understand the mass suffering and failure for people to meet ends meet - where they're having to put themselves in huge debt just to buy groceries and gasoline with a 19% interest credit card
investors don't care if they're spending $300 more a month on groceries - $300 is nothing! without thinking about how this is impacting the average consumer, that they are now unable to spend their income on goods and services outside of their needs (food, shelter, energy)
the wealth gap is now very large, so it is harder for investors to understand the strain higher prices have put on the budgets of the poor

>>53483430
the economy is always delayed by a few months. And basically when the economy turns to shit the market is already rising, exactly what is happening now.
Economy turned to shit in october 2022.

Everybody is expecting this FED day this week, because it's the turning point for the market.

I think as the markets rise, the big money will test for supply, and there will be profit taking when touching the ATH, then we will see for real were are the buyers and sellers.

by the way the analysis by big banks is that it is the PMI which is the bottom indicator
here is the PMI chart
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_pmi

Right now the PMI is decreasing still, I think there will be a few more months of bad economy, until summer 2023, with the market ranging near the ATH, and when the PMI rises, it will be break out, or at least test the ATH,

the next 6 months depend a lot on the oil price. As long as the price is cheap, recession will be mild. But with China producing again, so after their chinese holiday, oil price may rise and may fuck up the economy again

Also dont forget Biden refuses to produce oil (ie he wants the price of oil to be high) and the Saudis struggle to produce their oil. They said their peak production is near. Saudis already failed to produce oil in early 2022.


And after summer, there is winter and there will be another european drama over the price of gas, ie a subproduct of oil.

Currently the Dax and Eurostox are super bullish compared to the sp500, but in 6 months , it may be the USA which will be ahead again.

>>53483376
Ah, I see. Well there's something to be said for knowing what will help you stick to your savings habit. But, surely not being a coomer with money isn't THAT difficult.

>>53483444
Yes

>>53483358
The Teamsters elected a new president and ousted Hoffa Jr basically as a response to him not pushing for a strike.

>>53483291
>job
>company doesn't provide car
how is this acceptable?

i have the urge to collect tickers like im collecting books or something
i have the urge right now to buy TD and RY shares just to complete the big 5 set
i'd even buy NA.TO to make it the big 6 but they're not cross listed on NYSE (would like to possibility to collect USD divvies later on to re-invest elsewhere outside cucknanada)

how stupid is this?

>>53483452
>>53483430
please see
>>53483291
the consumer is NOT strong, delinquencies are higher than they were during peak 08-09
the market is delusional

>>53483470

>>53483468
>And basically when the economy turns to shit the market is already rising,
This is only true if central banks cut rates and start stimulating the economy. That's why in the past the stock market has started to rise as the economy gets worse.
But right now central banks are raising rates into weakening economies. This time there is no justification for markets to go up while the economy gets worse. I think this pump is a narrative that the market has created and won't let go of. The Fed won't pivot so the market has created an imaginary world where they have

>>53483291
I can't fucking wait for the used car market to crash. A 10-year old Civic/Corolla is like $12k right now. And new sedans are $25k because dealers and automakers know you have no choice. We NEED to liquidate the coomers who buy the largest car their down payment can buy.

>>53483361
thats just wrong. it might not make millions but once in a while it might cover some of your bills

You bobos ever think your shit is priced in? Have you factored in inflation to the market price? If you did you know that at one point the absolute value of the S&p500 was down almost 40%.
Was that not low enough for you dumbfuckistanis?

i love france now
also nazi germany is trending for some reason

>>53483537
Every time this shit happens it's always the "victim" that is doing the sprays.

>>53483452
what? i can still get groceries for a month with 100€. just stop eating like an american... it would help with your medical expenses too as you become healthier

>>53483537
Probably the Jews doing it to themselves as usual

>>53483517
> it might not make millions but once in a while it might cover some of your bills
But that's just it, it may in fact LOSE you money if you are forced to sell to cover bills. A true $1k/100% stocks port will genuinely be worse than holding it in cash if there's no emergency fund to back it up. Because there's a pretty good chance that, when the market's down, is exactly when you'll be looking at the kind of layoffs and financial emergencies that would require you to sell.

>>53483551
>>53483572
Could be, but the French are temperamental and anti-Semitism is unironically becoming more mainstream.

>>53483578
Doesn’t one of the girls resort to prostitution to keep gambling on fx?

>>53483534
>shit is priced in
it isn't priced in. look at S&P500 earning estimates - they are sky high
the market has not lowered their expectations for earnings, they have raised them - if S&P500 earnings had been estimated much lower this year, I would say "maybe you have a point, maybe it's all priced in"
this isn't the case whatsoever - the market has not priced in lower earnings, and in fact thinks that earnings will rise
https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/s-and-p-500-earnings-estimates-2023-too-optimistic
>today’s consensus forecasts for 2023 S&P 500 earnings growth of nearly 4% to $228 per share. However, Morgan Stanley’s Global Investment Committee thinks such projections are overly optimistic and put too much faith in corporate resilience while lacking historical perspective.
>Importantly, considering that margins and demand levels remain so far above historical trends, we are likely to see performance revert to long-run average levels. This alone—to say nothing of a potential economic recession this year—could bring a meaningful correction in corporate results and asset prices.

>pre-futures

>>53483537
Yeah dont get your hopes up.
The jews have been in control of the intellectual life of the europeans over the last 2000 years, thanks to christianity.

Over the last 200 years, they have been in control of the material life of the Europeans, thanks to the atheist revolutions.

>>53483578
thats assuming that things are that bad for you. if you can afford to hold those couple hundred as long as necessary theres literally no downsides in doing it. its very likely gonna pay you more than the little interest you get for the cash

>>53483578
>But that's just it, it may in fact LOSE you money if you are forced to sell to cover bills
my friend sold his tech stocks in november 2022 because he put a deposit on a rav4 (and then put the rest of the money for the rav4 in a GIC)

he tells me his stomach hurts everyday

>>53483593
yea

>>53483621
>if you can afford to hold those couple hundred as long as necessary
so in other words... if you have an e-fund?
All I'm saying is at true $1k networth, 100% stocks is a bad decision. Some people have "play" ports but that is a different scenario.

>>53483537
Whacha doing rabbi?

>>53482822
Based, and checked, but this can't be real.

WHAT THE FUCK MILKBREATHS NO ONE TOLD ME GROCERY OUTLET WAS PUBLICLY TRADED (Nasdaq Ticker: GO) HOLY FUCK I AM GOING TO BUY AS MANY SHARES AS POSSIBLE HOOOOOLY FUCK I LOVE THAT PLACE I CAN GET 6 CHEESY BRATWURSTS FOR $1.50

>>53483133
forbidden ticker mentioned

>>53483674
my assumption was that the money was left over after everything necessary was already paid. i wouldn't put the money for my next food in the market but hat money i would normally spend on something i don't really need? why not? i believe most first worlders should have a few hundred per month available if they go through their budgets

>>53481154
Interesting, what are kind of alpha framework do you put these pairs into? And what is the trading horizon generally for these pairs trades. I like to find pairs through clustering

>>53483720
>i believe most first worlders should have a few hundred per month available
So in other words, you are advocating living paycheck-to-paycheck? I believe no further comment is needed.

>>53482374
last fomc it came in as expected and still dumped

>>53483787
ah its just a retarded anime poster. should have known that im getting trolled by someone that thinks netflix subs are too important to cancel

>>53483537
I really dont get it
>import half of africa to destroy the goy's civilization
>"waaah waaaah the imported african radical islamists are attacking us jews now wtf?!"

I thought these guys were smart

>>53483917
>no comment on all my other anime image posts just ad-hominem because out of replies
>Implying I would give even a cent to see an anime on N*tflix

>>53479250
What stocks should I slurp up before the pivot?
Think I'll get some apple.

How long can the market rally on fake economic data from the Biden administration before reality catches up to it?

>>53483975
>How long...before reality
the hard deadline is Tuesday February 14, when the January CPI comes out showing inflation up around 0.6% MoM, reflecting the increase in oil and gas prices
but it could be before that, with big earnings + Fed -could be this week

>>53483957
All part of the plan.
>import third world
>eliminate your only true competition in white people
>third worlders naturally hate Jews but don't act out like they want them to
>start drawing swastikas around town and blame it on 3rd worlders
>get to play victim (favorite pastime of the Jew)
>pass new laws that give them even more special treatment
>eliminate 3rd worlders

>>53483975
that's the thing. Reality doesn't mean diddly squat as long as nothing breaks

>>53483975
the market will catch up to reality when the black swan event (use of nuclear/dirty bombs) happens this year. NATO attacked iran last night with drones so we wont have to wait for much longer.

>>53483596
>morgan stanley
That Mike Wilson guy is a permabear retard just like the tranny Burry.

>>53483957
here is how it works: the migrants will live off the gibs of the bureaucrats, which makes them vote left.
The left don't need the vote of the white working men now, ie the whole workers are useless.The liberal democracy now is sustainable without any connection to the physical reality.
What matters is now the virtual world, getting the migrants doing very low skilled jobs and hiring poojeets for coding the virtual world and parking here all the normies.

>>53484077
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-25/morgan-stanley-s-wilson-is-ranked-no-1-strategist-in-ii-survey

>>53483975
I give it another two round or two of layoffs from non-tech companies. I think people discounted the big tech cuts because they were so clearly overinvesting in 2020, but once Walmart for example starts to shed in earnest it may make people pause (and of course also means less money entering the market). The X-factor is how the Fed reacts, because return to 10% inflation would fuck over the market and the real economy too and that could happen if JPOW pivots.

>>53484091
Big tech are the only companies that are going to lay off anyone for the most part. The reason of that being the "products" they create are largely worthless, and the labor they employ don't really do anything anyway. It's just meeting after meeting of talking about there next meeting while no work gets done. I could see the automotive industry laying off people though so you may be right.

>>53484112
>Big tech are the only companies that are going to lay off anyone for the most part
See this is what I thought before, but then big retailers started having layoffs. I think the 1%->5% hike is more significant than was initially evident, it's just taking a while to trickle through. Plus, those code monkeys & brand influencers might not have been creating real value BUT they were probably massive consoomers so taking their incomes out of the market en masse might have more of an impact than the numbers would suggest

>>53484112
If she’s so bad at her marketing job how come you’re watching her videos?

>>53483499
That's pretty much just rolling your own ETF, so not stupid at all. And if it encourages you to save more and invest in a diversified manner, more power to you. Whether Canadian banks are a good "set" to collect now is a separate issue.

Personally I'm a fan of collecting meme tickers. Like, it might be financially retarded to buy a boat, but you can do a lot worse now than buying $BOAT.

Same for $COW, Galway Metals, and the Fidelity Capital & Income Fund.

So is the recession completely priced in at this point? Does the market even give a shit anymore?

>>53484089
He's retarded, all permabears are morons. The best people to follow are Tony Dwyer and Tom Lee.

>>53484185
well i could add VUN.TO (basically VTI) and VIU (world cap minus US) and VEE (developing market)
to complement it

the main reason i want to hold big banks directly is for the 2% discount on DRIP and getting home bias purposely to reduce volatility
for the most part, canadians banks are big enough that they're basically international exposure anyways (e.g. TD bank), dont want to touch the rest of canada other than energy short-term

>>53484179
Yes techie faggots are definitely massive consoomers so you have. A point there but until generally the rule of thumb is once the auto makers start laying off, it's time to panic.
>>53484181
>watching her videos
>a webm
Merely pretending right?

>>53483726
The pairs I am studying are hand chosen, not found with statistical analysis.
>the current working list

Which is my I am sharing them... Does anyone have any ideas for ETF pairs which are related ?

>>53484112
>Goldman Sachs
>3M
>DirecTV
>Yankee Candle
>3M
>Compass
>Peloton
>Ford
>Bank of New York Mellon
>BlackRock
>Dow Chemical
>Morgan Stanley
>Redfin
>Credit Suisse
>Kraken
look at this list to see the big names in tech
https://mondo.com/insights/mass-layoffs-in-2022-whats-next-for-employees/
look at this list (scroll the crunchbase table)to see all the other tech layoffs in smaller companies you've never heard of
https://news.crunchbase.com/startups/tech-layoffs/
I don't understand how /smg/ doesn't get that tech companies run on advertising, which is one of the first things to get cut - it's a leading indicator
You're not going to see the lay-offs start in Dow Chemical, as it isn't the first part of the economy to see big spending cuts
You will see it in a company that runs on advertising money - big tech - as the economy weakens, it spreads to all the other sectors. We are now at the Dow Chemical cuts.
Saying "it's just worthless tech jobs!" is like saying "hey, the fire only burned the super flammable dry tinder on the roof of the house, that stuff was super dry, it was bound to catch on fire!" without realizing that the roof is on fire, and fire spreads

>>53484246
so basically inflation will go down and rates will stabilize soon

>>53484261
Bullish

>>53484261
>inflation will go down
no - see
>>53482423
>0.6% MoM CPI
>0.7% MoM services
>0.8% MoM shelter
inflation was disrupted by government intervention SPR release making energy fall, now energy is rising again - government interference in price discovery has failed
>rates will stabilize soon
no, see above

>>53484218
>the main reason i want to hold big banks directly is for the 2% discount on DRIP and getting home bias purposely to reduce volatility
Well those aren't bad reasons, per se. But your broker might offer some sort of FX-hedged ETFs if you want to reduce volatility and a 2% DRIP discount could be totally swamped by the financial sector underperforming vs, say, energy or railroads. Just food for thought.

I want to invest in the recent ai chat and ai art engines. which companies are available to buy shares from?

>>53484243
Soxx or SM-H / CPER (copper Spot price)

SPY / TLT

QQQ / TLT

QQQ / UVXY (or any VIX* etf)

BTC / TLT

XLF / TLT

What book do you say that you use?
Please and thank you for your autism

>>53484246
>>53484284
Tech comfort women being laid off cuts down their Uber spending and fills some of those 10 million (3 million real) job openings. These layoffs are exactly what we need for disinflation.

>>53482822
If you exclude everything, one dollar is worth precisely one dollar. There's been no real inflation since the mint act of 1792. US remains undefeated.

>>53484311
Buying anything other than meta, alphabet or Microsoft would just be gambling

What does SMG think of my portfolio for the coming bullrun?

ACI
MSFT
BAC
GOLD
BRK-B
BTC
SKYT
JNJ
VT
WMT
VSTO

>>53484350
I also have about 1k in XMR

>>53484323
>laid off cuts down their...spending
how does not understand that people sharply cutting down their spending due to being laid off is bearish for economic growth, bearish for corporate revenues, bearish for corporate revenues
the economy is 70% consumption - it doesn't matter if the job is a "worthless job" if it means that there is $100,000 less consumption from that individual, and all of the ripple effects
the person who is laid off no longer can afford to pay their babysitter, the babysitter is laid off - they can no longer afford to pay for the tutor for their child, the tutor is unable to make ends meet and puts themselves into debt that they cannot pay off and defaults. It doesn't matter if the person who was laid off was a "worthless tech worker" or an "essential worker" for Coca Cola's profits - Coca Cola doesn't care if it's a doctor buying a can of coke or if it's a garbage man - a dollar is a dollar

>>53483076
>He didn't start with the ISA
Moron, do some more research goddamn. Hell, play one of those fake money stock markets tests and see how much money you'd lose after a month.

>>53484336
>meta
Zuck destroyed any chance they have at surviving by blowing all of their money on retarded VR. For the thousandth time, VR will never be a thing outside of a meme for rich kids.

>>53484243
This might be tangential but have you done any analysis about the change in various correlations over time? For example CHFUSD/GLD were in lockstep from July through December but now not so much.

Relationships breaking down seems like a good way to spot profitable trends and tradeable news.

>>53484366
If earnings take a 5% hit but rape cuts bump up SPY's P/E by 2, that's more bullish than bearish.

>>53480303
I look like this.

>ADANI SAYS HINDENBURG REPORT 'CALCULATED ATTACK ON INDIA'

>ADANI SAYS HINDENBURG REPORT IS 'CALCULATED SECURITIES FRAUD'

Lmao every single buy-side fund in India (hedge funds, asset allocators, etc) knew the Adani group was full of lies. Most Indian discretionary funds avoided.

>>53483726
>holding period
It depends on the asset.
Pic related is the SIL vs SLV.

It's unilateral pairs trading. It only buys or short the silver miners using the silver price as it's indicator. In each case betting that the spread will mean-revert.

The red line is exposure. You can estimate holding period and turnover.

>>53482197
Thats a good thing

>>53474444
Hello

>>53484284

Energy's rise was merely a return to it's recent ratio vs M2. With flat or falling M2, energy will fall with everything else as the currency appreciates in purchasing power. Net liquidity is the only thing that matters. Earnings are just stories the market tells itself to justify why the money should flow to this asset vs that asset, but the indices live or die on money flow.

RE: oil. It's long term a v good investment because it tracks the printer well and the printer is almost certainly coming back soon, but the "underinvestment in production" commodity story is still just a story, go look at US oil production and tell me if you see a supply shortage. Fin-twit is full of lazy retards repeating shit they heard from other retards talking their books, without even doing the most basic research themselves.

I hate Filipino women so much. They’ll say x, y, z celebrity are so cute but then they have the sex drive of a 90 year old geriatric. Kill me

>>53484464
They sucky sucky long time only through cash insensitives, true capitalists

>>53484464
Perhaps you haven't found the right one

>>53484464
Dude I have been talking to a filipina i met on meetme for a year now. she is in her late 30's and im in my early 20's. she randomly shows me her tits all the time and is horny asf. calls me 'son'

U need to find hornier flips

>>53484322
>What book do you say that you use?
>Trade like a Hedge Find Altucher
Posted by someone in a trading thread elsewhere on /biz/ but he said he hadn't tested any of the strategies himself.

GOOD THING TOO
Look at pic related. It's the original Unilateral Pairs Trading Strategy from the book.
IT STOPS WORKING EXACTLY WHERE THE BACKTEST ENDS IN THE BOOK

I had to modify it to get it working again.

>>53479303
Don’t forget swift the Fox

>>53479289
>White people.
Honkaloids*

>>53484464
>>53484498
>filipino
we're like lower than garbage. have some respect for yourself and get some tastes.
t. flip

>>53484542
Good name for those of us whites ridding the clown world for profit

>>53484509
What did change that made it work?

the book came out in 2004 btw

You’ll make way more money riding a good stock than day trading. Unless you’re an autist master, in which case you’ll do great but you’ll be unable to interact with people.

>>53484464
Just for you. Sex drive for everyone else.

>>53484542
>made up a """slur""" for white people
>t. self-hating white person

>>53484464
Skill issue. If you're good at pleasuring women and score high in emotional intelligence then they'll want sex all the time.

Holy shit, chatgpt is fucking crazy. Every company will be using this for customer service soon. How would you invest in the coming ai boom?

>>53484261
>so basically inflation will go down
No because hysterically euphoric mumus have loosened financial conditions back to where they were in August

>>53484663
I need to finish my novel before the ai ruin literature.

>>53483376
Thanks bro you know the struggle. I am an anomoly. I shouldnt be treated as a person who makes wise decisions. If I dont lock up my money in stocks its going into the casinos hands. I am in debt, I owe a lot of people money. But I must lock it up in stocks. If I get liquidated via forced bankruptcy at least I have funds then rather than shrugging and saying I lost it all playing blackjack

>>53484663
apparently invest in microsoft because they're the only ones with a share in chatgpt

>>53484663
ChatGPT is just one Indian guy they pay $0.10/hr who types really fast.

>>53484616
I don't understand day trading, like, why day trade if you can just sell options?

>>53484715
>>53484715
>>53484715
new
>>53484715
>>53484715
>>53484715
new

>>53484112
This is the least shitty version of this meme
> shows herself doing grunt work
> doesn’t spend the entire time eating
> has some idea what her company’s product is
> doesn’t pretend she goes out after work for crazy events, just “go home, pet my dog then play video games”
She should still be fired on principle because she’s an HR roastie, but I feel slightly bad for what’s going to happen to her

>>53484681
Lmao this nigga went from doing weed to IVing black tar into his veins and thinking it'll fix him, guy will be sucking cock for highly leveraged options in 3 months

>>53484733
She works at blizzard, she can sell her piss to degenerate senior managers as a separate income source

>>53484740
never IV'd drugs. Or abused downers. Uppers on the otherhand..

>>53484640
>just put in more effort bro
Meanwhile just existing is the requirement if you have, you know, good looks. Keep in mind, she ain't returning the favor.

>>53484191
This is why we invest. In hopes to have that some day

>>53484687
Lmao

>>53484191
Priced in?
Yes.
Still corrupt?
Also yes.

Hence, opportunity exists.

>>53483607
Yes atheist revolutions like Galileo and the Telescope, kek. You delusional faggots; Listen to yourselves. Pathetic.

>>53484638
I just call them trustfund kids. They are weak, never had a job in their life (nor could hold down one) and everything that doesn't go 100% their way is untold suffering upon them.

Self-hating white liberals bring misery wherever they go.

>>53484323
>Tech comfort women
I am taking that expression and running with it! thank you anon.