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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
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Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Hodling XMR until the cows come home.

discretes and token is launching a token general very soon., would anyone be interested in alternatives to privacys coin?

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>AlphaBay
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market #
>Cloud Market #
>Dark Matter #
>Darkmoon #
>FilthyFellas
>Mellow Market #
>Retro Market #
Onion links: https://pastebin.com/raw/Ttnew9Yb


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Kilos
>Majestic Bank
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/wVZ4mdDe


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.
http://pokerggxmrvzecuo6afhucjwdljuve5eoavxdxdr6zedyejd6mvz5wad.onion

>XMR Poker
http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

>>53410476

the only coins that make sense holding right now
>XMR: anonymity
>ETH: dApps
>BIT: self governance

>Trusted technology, growing adoption

Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.

Zcash is the 'https of blockchains,' protecting your freedom to save and spend as you like.

Zcash was the first project to implement zk-SNARKs, a novel form of zero-knowledge cryptography that gives its users the strongest privacy available in any digital currency.

Multiple, independent organizations are funded to innovate on Zcash.

Zcash is already available on top exchanges, digital wallets and a growing number of applications.

This is what Monero chuds don't want you to know.

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

How many anons are going to fall for the low quality bait this thread?

I didn’t get any replies on moneromarket :(

>>53410476
>>53410567
>>53410621
>>53410643
>>53410654
>>53410736
All we're missing now is the "stop buying" and the "when are we making it" anons and we've got a full set.

>>53410772
Don’t know why you @‘d me but I am just upset no one replied to me at moneromarket. I’m wondering if anyone else here had success with it.

>oldie and a goodie

What's the point of holding Monero if all it takes for a 70% crash is a tweet from CZ stating they will delist XMR?

>>53410796
never tried as of yet. the cups looked good, and they are from mexico so shipping to burgerland is outrageous. how long you wait for a reply?

whats the lowest end specs anyone tried using to run a monero node? I was thinking of studying linux from scratch and running a node on it.

>>53410796
Sorry, I got you mixed up with all the other copy pastes. And what are you selling? I was thinking of putting some silver on there

>>53410802
>70% crash
not sure where you are getting that number from, and he is offshore. I believe binance.us doesn't offer xmr, so he is already playing nice with the fedbois. I can think of other reasons not to trust CZ though.

>>53410621
when is the ztrash team going to violate rule 34 of this Victorian cunny?

>>53410417

I find myself ever so more hardened in my position about Monero. It's the only pragmatic and realistic candidate for digital money, and we have Bitcoin to thank for it. If they didn't reject every good proposition Monero wouldn't need to exist, tail emission and dynamic block sizes are great examples.

It's beautiful how the Monero community review and adopts new technology. It's only a matter of time until we get Zero Knowledge.

Shills, you better try convincing some BTC maxies, all they care about are momentary gains.

Stop buying.

It's getting too expensive!!! I'm not yet ready to enter!!!
>>53410443
>fluffypony
stop

>>53411373
I can't help myself

>>53411373
There you are, the whole gang's almost all here.

>>53410833
>whats the lowest end specs anyone tried using to run a monero node? I was thinking of studying linux from scratch and running a node on it.
I don't know the absolute bottom, but some of the popular single board computers running Linux are capable of running a Monero node.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeoNHGFN_30

monero-chan is real cute

>>53411125
>I find myself ever so more hardened in my position about Monero. It's the only pragmatic and realistic candidate for digital money, and we have Bitcoin to thank for it. If they didn't reject every good proposition Monero wouldn't need to exist, tail emission and dynamic block sizes are great examples.
Halfin gave it some thought, and nothing happened.
>It's beautiful how the Monero community review and adopts new technology.
Yes, and S/J is being crafted as we speak. I can only get so erect.
>Shills, you better try convincing some BTC maxies, all they care about are momentary gains.
They have to figure it out the hard way.

https://twitter.com/MoneroTime/status/1617536536358322176

>>53412280
Seems like some very promising developments are coming down the pipeline

>>53412679
Some very promising developments indeed.

MONEROMARKET.IO

>>53412742
I <3 her so much bros

>>53412828

>>>/wsg/4929790

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1674549902259540.webm

>>53410621
>>Trusted technology, growing adoption
why can't you make your own thread then?

>>53413359
Fancy ad brother.
But needs moar xmrchan

>>53410567
>>XMR: anonymity
>>ETH: dApps
>>BIT: self governance
>Sylo: anonymity plus asset storage

I set my username to Nigger on a small american exchange, now, in every support ticket, they say "Hey Nigger, thanks for using our service"
The support is manual btw

>>53410802
>implying Binance has enough XMR to affect price action
>implying anons wouldn't slurp an unknown amount and send price back up 60%

Anything that isn't PoW is a scam.
Anything that isn't ASIC resistant is a scam.

>>53413359
based, we already have the tech, but not the willingness from those in power.

>>53414417
so much shilling yet nobody to buy your silo bags.

>>53415393 good private coin!

>>53415429
heh those discrete or whatever the fuck they are scammers never learn. I wonder if the mods got them or they deleted that fast after being called out

>>53413359
I wonder how many moneroj would I have to offer to see ladies Lagarde and VDL being approached by mujaheddin creepers in minecraft.

>>53410736
What the fuck are you selling?

https://pastebin.com/UK4D4Mhp

Updated to add Prestium OS

>>53414650
lmfao
send a screenshot please

monero already had it's price hike
all the cool features are already priced in
the likelyhood of a "moonshot" are slim, as it already happened

moonboys beware

>>53416418
>all the cool features are already priced in

No they're not, dimwit, most crypto normies still think BTC is private and that it utterly dominates black market commerce.

Imagine what happens when a critical mass of them realize an altcoin is demonstrably wiping the floor with the King.


>the likelyhood of a "moonshot" are slim, as it already happened

lol we've yet to experience the long-prophesied privacy bubble, moonshots are made of speculative mania.

>>53416951
normies simply aren't interested, there won't be a bubble
the potential market for monero already bought
everything is priced in

it is very unlikely monero moonshots again

>>53410443
based

>>53417023
>normies simply aren't interested, there won't be a bubble

Normies are retards that buy literal dog memes, they'll FOMO en masse into *anything* that hints at being the next Bitcoin, and the only coin in crypto that is demonstrably replacing BTC in key markets is right at the top of that list.


>the potential market for monero already bought
>everything is priced in

This is what anxious maxipads DESPERATELY want you to believe. Meanwhile, the darknet & ransomware sectors continues moving to a Monero-only standard, transnational organized crime (multi-TRILLION dollar industry) adoption just keeps on growing and now even clearnet commerce is starting to prioritize Monero. Pic related, faggot.


>it is very unlikely monero moonshots again

Thank you for your expert insight. Now tell us more about how BTC hits $1 million by 2030.

>>53417404
>Meanwhile, the darknet & ransomware sectors continues moving to a Monero-only standard, transnational organized crime (multi-TRILLION dollar industry) adoption just keeps on growing and now even clearnet commerce is starting to prioritize Monero.
priced in

Is it true what they say? Can ring signatures be broken if the majority of transactions are public?

>>53417436
>priced in

You hope.

>>53417437
>Is it true what they say? Can ring signatures be broken if the majority of transactions are public?

Nigga, dis ain't Zcash.

>>53417448
>pic
priced in

you really think people with actual money don't know this? do you really think they haven't invested yet? they probably invested a long time ago, and already cashed out a long time ago

investing is not as easy as reading a headline from an online newshelter, sorry

>>53410417
SEXO

>>53417516

>Just looking out for you, bro!

Wow, you must really care about all of us SO much! Based Financial Advice Chad.

>>53417655
please dont litter /XMR/ with pictures of niggers

>>53417725
Hurling slurs at Alfonso Ribeiro is shameful. Clean up your act.

>>53416418
>>53417023
>>53417436
>>53417516
>>53417725
Now this is some based FUD

>>53416213
>Can't post files from IP due to range block
https://files.catbox.moe/qauxul.jpg

kek

>>53412280
I don't want to wait until 2024 hmph.

>>53410802
>70% crash
First, that'd be slurp city for many intelligent anons. Second, if Binance delisted XMR they wouldn't be able to suppress the price and use it to con normies which is good for price action. Unironically, your hypothetical situation would be great for XMR long-term.

>>53411373
>Stop buying.
No

Bitcoin is controlled opposition.

Vitalik recently published a proposal to add stealth addresses to ETH.

What do you think are the implications to Monero?

>>53419633
If Vitali feels like privacy is the next thing that will pump then probably bullish.
It's not like eth can have any real privacy anyway, it's all just a finding the next marketing term to pump your bags with.

>>53419708
NFTs permanently destroy privacy because of the unique asset class tags in a transaction.

>>53411125
Besides zero knowledge proofs, what else do you want to see added to Monero?

>>53422229
Monero uses zero knowledge proofs to shield transaction amounts

>>53422229
monero already uses zk proofs for transaction amounts

>>53422229
>>53422374
>>53422372
Getting accustomed to FUD are we? He probably means ZK proofs for the inputs. Something which will be possible and even easy with Seraphis. We can even do it with BulletProofs(++) surpringly and it works better than whatever millions of VC money has created with Zcash. Just ask KabayaNerve about it. Tho afaik he left the development of ZK input proofs to work on Serai DEX.

>>53420949
The thumbnail looks like Monero-chan has cat ears. We need a Monero-chan with cat ears and an orange halo forming the logo now.

>>53422441
IIRC the ZK proofs are being used in Serai itself.

>>53422441
Interesting, thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLxo2jr03H4

Maybe we should change Monero Mondays to Monero Tuesday or Wednesday. The last few dumps seem to be closer to Tuesday.

>>53410417
What's that from

>>53423307
Twisted_Turtle, runs the artfund at monerochan.art and is our top guy in regards to AI monerochan art. It's not up yet but he posts them to https://monerochan.io/user/TwistedTurtle

i look forward to buying a bunch of cheap monero in a year. i might even pick up a small sack after the big crypto crash next month

Reminder to buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

how do monero deal with the fact BSC network have built in privacys to obfuscate transactions and project like discrete going to capitalize on the network and copy monero code for amazing privacys? thats right, you will be useless token

>>53424036
>Binance Scam Chain
5 billion in BNB just teleports into an address. No trace back to when they were minted. That's all you bro. Have at it.
>discrete
Can't even spell that scam coin's name right

>>53422229
Quantum resistant encryption, but that's for way down the line

>>53422461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEDPxOCyI3Y

>>53424894
>fudding DIST
LMAO even

Sup fags, when is XMR going to 600 united states dollars again?

>>53426209

Next Thursday.

>>53426161
She's sitting on... something
I'm rock hard now

>>53426209
3 years from now

>>53426799
2 years I'd expect

In case you missed it...

The MONERO MOON newsletter (Issue 61) is OUT NOW!

If you want to read something that you might still be able to understand with an IQ of 69, check it out.

https://www.themoneromoon.com/p/the-monero-moon-issue-61

Hey my niggas, I'm still selling cock.li and riseup invites at https://moneromarket.io/u/cockliuser
Riseup made a policy change and now restrict new accounts to one invite, so I increased the price to $30

>>53427229
>redd8t spacing

>>53427077
yeah i dont know desu when it will happen but my signals to watch out for will be the next bull cycle after the coming crash. and this upcoming crash could last at least a year and it wont be pretty, institutional investments will leave the crypto space it will be mostly retail left so expect billions of market cap to disappear

bros we missed off on 40% discounted monero yesterday im sad i woudlve bought at that price

https://boards.4channel.org/biz/thread/53420753#bottom

we couldve just bought 40% disount BTC or whatever and exchanged it for monero. why didnt anyone here pay attention to this shit????

The only holds that makes sense right now

>>53424908
QC resistance is already somewhat discussed, see https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/105 for example. The beautiful thing is that one Seraphis is done we can pop and switch Perdensen commitments into Switch Proofs that we can later activate if needed. Tho achieving full QC resistance would require getting rid of relying on the DLP as a whole and that would be quite the amount of work as QC could potentially be used to even break CRH, so no more Keccak no more randomX.

>>53410417
Are we getting the sats back?

>>53428929
No more sats, only pain, please understand.

please stop sending paid FUDDERS into discreets threads, it very hard for us to get traction

DIST token is legitimately project

sell more

Burger relief rally in progress. Sats are stabilizing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbVISS-lEAc

Please sell some wow so that my buy order goes through

>>53432037
Thank you anons, much love your way

>>53431959
>woman behaving like a nigger

If only there is a crypto that pivots faster than other projects on upgrades due to a treasury, proposal system for improvement and stake holder governance. That doesn't have a dubious origin, is self sustaining and is black listed from CT twitter as if it was a threat to unregulated scam VC schemes and centralized shitcoins.

If there only was a cryptocurrency that runs L2 lightning network social media using the currency efficiently as a message's medium of transfer to not only protect the freedom of speech but simultaneously prevent spam.

If only there was merchant tools planned to be available in said L2 social media becoming a new un-censorable silk road.

If only there was a cryptocurrency that atomic swaps native BTC, LTC, Dash, Doge and soon ETH and USDC using a Decentralized Exchange.

If only there was a cryptocurrency that has a privacy mixer and staking integrated into the wallet.

if only there was a cryptocurrency that was a hybrid proof of stake and proof of work model to prevent centralized malicious miners from dumping on the market.

If only Crypto-retards weren't chasing NGU ponzis, but instead chasing an exit of suppression and tyranny.

>>53417404
Monero can't scale to sustain transactions for the value of trillion of dollars a year.

>>53433634
>Monero can't scale to sustain transactions for the value of trillion of dollars a year.

lol a single transaction can transfer $20 million just as easily as $2, its how those transatlantic cocaine deals are being done.

And there will be NO mass adoption of Monero or Bitcoin or anything else, the mainstream economy is permissioned and a monopoly will inevitably be granted to the gubmint's own Fedcoin.

>>53424026
I thought you guys died but seems you've been paid another month of rent money! Congratulations!

>craigslist requires phone numbers and burners aren’t allowed
>fb bans people offering services
>freelance sites are scams
>moneromarket is perfect but there’s no traffic
How can more people know about MM?

>>53435902
by striping them of all privacy

>>53435902
>How can more people know about MM?

Spread the word.

>>53433258
If only reddit spacing pajeets would kill themselves

>>53427673
fucking based and checked folio

>>53436436

>>53438045
so THIS is the boat everybody keeps talking about
must be poorly design since it keeps sinking

I have a question for proper use. I know that P2Pool mining needs its own dedicated wallet for privacy.
Should I have a separate wallet for receiving and spending too? Post an address for payments/donations/whatever, use that wallet to transfer to a secondary, and spend from there. Or is it safe enough to take and give from the same wallet as long as I'm good about making fresh sub-addresses?

>>53439365
>Should I have a separate wallet for receiving and spending too? Post an address for payments/donations/whatever, use that wallet to transfer to a secondary, and spend from there. Or is it safe enough to take and give from the same wallet as long as I'm good about making fresh sub-addresses?

No, best practice = a different subaddress per unique identity. So you can reuse the same payment/donation address an infinite number of times, it'll never show up on the blockchain.

>>53438984
>must be poorly design since it keeps sinking
lost xmr makes the glowies seethe

How are things looking for us in 2023? Crypto recovery or another year of pain?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

>>53436827
Could always run ads for it

>>53413359
ebin

>>53440888

Where?

>>53440553
Monero adoption will continue squeezing buttcoin out of everything but institutional pump&dump schemes and retard maxi wallets. Sooner or later, real money wins.

>>53438091
I left room for you to print it out, read it again and again and add written thoughts between each line.
>You're welcome.

>>53441324
4chan, ads are cheap here

retard here, where can I find the new white house market? asking for a friend

Bump

why are monero chads such coomers?

Reporting in,
fuck Bitcoin.

>>53442959
nothing beats REAL boobs. trannies on suicide watch.

>>53415695
>>53410851
A Legitimate professional service without actually doxing myself. You can guess what it is by looking at the services tab.

>>53410819
A week roughly

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1674745571179426.webm

>>53444169
fuck CBDC coin.

>I'm not bagholding XMR to get rich. I'm bagholding XMR as insurance against tyranny, as a means of keeping my privacy in a world that's quickly adopting a nightmarish technocratic neo-feudal system. The writing is on the wall fellas.

>>53443024
Their Naturally Extremely High Testosterone + Pound of 100% Raw Uncured Colombian Quality Illegal Drug Trafficked Cocaine Flowing Through Their Dilated Blood Vessels That Must Be Replenished Constantly is Just Merely a Side Effect of Having Off The Charts Levels of Libido and Sexual Vitality.
They MUST CONSTANTLY Fuck ANYTHING and ANYONE That Has a Heartbeat Pulse Within a 1,000 Meter Radius or Else Their Rock Hard, Non-Stop, Cocaine Fueled Erection Will Literally Explode from Having Too Much Pressure Applied and No Release...

but that's just my personal observation on the coomposting...

>>53442959
Her face is prettier than her gigantic honkers.
The size of those things would make bimbonero jealous

>>53413359
Kino.

>>53445441
anon why is her face like that?
is she gone?

>>53415556
>Lagarde and VDL being approached by mujaheddin creepers in minecraft.
ECB being approached by CIA creepers in minecraft? why?

Which one of you niggers placed this buy wall?

>>53447912

>>53447912
wouldn't you like to know? ;)

>>53447912
>he doesn't know

>>53447912
0.25?
that's me

Decided to look at the orderbook for XMR/BTC on Kraken. What's really interesting is even though we've had a recent collapse in sats, we see increasingly thick, juicy buy orders going all the way down, whereas the sell orders are noticeably thinner.

It seems the market is pricing this as if the Monero bull market is still perfectly intact, as people are willing to put up huge amounts of money to buy any dip but are skittish about putting up any sell orders and taking profits because they're expecting it to go higher.

To give more concrete numbers:
If you wanted to raise the sat ratio by 5%, you would have to buy 1250 XMR. But if you wanted to lower the sat ratio by 5%, you would have to sell 3200 XMR. I do not view this disparity in the orderbook as in any way sustainable.

>>53448425
Every time this happens, Chinance suspends XMR withdrawals. We will not see a true XMR bullrun until DEXes are the main liquidity pool rather than Chinance's fractional reserve bullshit.

>>53448456
https://moneroj.net/withdrawals/
>4 fucking times this year
>it is not even February

We need to orchestrate another monero run, watch withdrawals immediately get shut down.

>>53442959
>>53447267
Fetal alcohol syndrome

Monerochads, would i be able to mine any xmr with my lame computer, or should i just give up now?

>>53449134
What CPU?

>>53449172
I have no idea bro, some lame probably, my entire computer cost $1000 like 2.5 years ago

>>53449296
Assuming you're on Windows, type "About your PC" in the search bar, and paste what it says under "Processor".
But it's already obvious your CPU would lose money mining Monero.

>>53449134
you can mine with a potato and that would help the network.
now if you want to actually get some monero then probably no, not much.

I had bought funny amount of wownero. suchwow xyz is back too. Are world ready for shitcoin of this scale of shitiness and unfunny? Are we at required level of metairony now? My brain is not big enough to answer. My soul is suffering.

>>53446388

>>53451509
welcome to hell

I don't to sound like a loser but I have to
normies don't care about fungibility, they are not even aware of what it is

>>53454616
https://gist.github.com/joepie91/6a5f50b27965c711436f5b566f97960d

>>53449172
it 7400k

>>53454808
Even if electricity was free, you'd make only $1.62/month. Factor in electricity, and you're losing money.

>>53454853
>$1.62/month
what formula/website are you using to calculate this?

Look at this glowing faggot

>>53454968
>>53454968
>4 core/8 thread
>probably something like 600h/s per thread (a very crude estimate)
>leave one for OS
>~4Kh/s

https://www.coinwarz.com/mining/monero/calculator?h=4000.00&p=100.00&pc=0.11&pf=0.90&d=345662882674.00000000&r=0.6&er=0.00569160&btcer=40010.46830000&ha=H&hc=0.00&hs=0&hq=1

A bit better than what he said but still PROBABLY NOT worth mining on. Might be worth using spare cores and disk space to run your own node, that's ~150GB right now

>>53455065
By mining, you're also speculating on future price. If you get into mining now, you'll look back in the future and will be glad you got into it
With free elec it's a money printer

>>53455065
Nah, hash rate is half that. Only one thread per core for that cpu.
https://xmrig.com/benchmark?cpu=Intel%28R%29+Core%28TM%29+i5-7400+CPU+%40+3.00GHz

>>53448456
stop using binance, trade ogre is the way

>>53412804
>>53412804
this site is lame wheres all the cool shit like funs and stuff? isnt the whole point of monero to be for illegal shit?

>>53455776
I have never once directly traded fiat for XMR and do not have a Binance account.

>>53411373
When that time is ripe, Privacy and DiD will be a big deal, investing in projects in this category will be a game changer

>>53455776
What's wrong with Binance, isn't it secured enough??

>>53456132
>this site is lame wheres all the cool shit like funs and stuff? isnt the whole point of monero to be for illegal shit?

that's a clearnet market, numbskull, the illegal shit is on darknet markets.

>>53454616
I think it's time Fungibility and Decentralised Identity is well talked about especially those advancing blockchain interoperability.

>>53456298
>What's wrong with Binance
They keep selling xmr they don't have to keep the price down.
Everytime you want to withdraw xmr to your own wallet it is the same "oops maintenance come back later goy" excuse.

>>53451509
Foolish idiot

>>53451509
You can as well Stick on with ORE and MONERO... Thats the crypto for the future.

>>53451509
I fuck wownerochan in my dreams

Comfiest hold.

>>53457799
Wownerochan mogs Monerochan.

>>53459331
Definitely, look how bigger her cup size is (just like her ring size)

>>53459356
Yes but she's only good for a lay.
Monerochan is for settling down.

>>53460162

Unfathomably based.

>>53459385
I'd lay with her for my entire life

I've discovered a pattern. Monero pumps 30 minutes after I do my monthly shopping and payments

>>53460162
I've seen this before . Does this popup whenever you get a share?

>>53463540
now ants can enjoy monerochan as well!

Do you trade shitcoins so you can buy more XMR with the profits?

>>53463782
only wownero and not much at all, pay is almost never worth the stress and effort of literally gambling with several months of income.

>>53410417
What is the next guaranteed 10x?
Avax?
Moreno?
Ftm?
Crv?
Other shitcoins?

Cannot sign into moneromarket even though I am 100% definitely entering the correct username/password (repeated with several password resets as well)

>>53464352
>What is the next guaranteed 10x?

>>53464504
I still have a debian VM purpose-built to mine NGR.

tired of bitcoin's hubris

>>53463540

Jesus, at least I generate monero-chans in 512x512 on my potato.

>>53464352
You take me for a financial analyst? Go buy ORE then.

>>53463782
Instead of XMR, why not RAIL, LUNC and OGN? Don't you want to buy a yatch before the end of Q2?

>>53465849

>>53465849
Promptly kill yourself, streetshitting shitskin

>>53465849
you said everything but discreet lol

I wonder where those street shitting pajeets from discreet are at. They’ve been awfully quiet since people have been reporting them to europol

>>53465892
>since people have been reporting them to europol
Wait what, that sounds based as hell. A hasty rundown?

>>53465980
>>53453198

Discreet and or DIST is a new scam coin. The mods usually ban DIST posting, due to their first pump and dump from June 2021, when they launched DIS, their first scam. DIST is their latest ICO scam project from the same group and relies on heavy shilling here to lure you into buying an intermediate token, which you can allegedly exchange for DIST when the project fully launches in 2024.

What can you do? You can flag their threads and their hired spammers.

You can also report Discreet, Discreet Foundation, Juche SIA (parent company) to:

>https://www.interpol.int/en/Contacts/Contact-INTERPOL

>https://www.europol.europa.eu/report-a-crime/report-cybercrime-online

>https://www.vp.gov.lv/en/contacts-authority

>https://policija.lrv.lt/en/

>https://www.sec.gov/tcr

>https://www.ic3.gov (FBI has legal attaches in embassies that work with foreign law enforcement)

>>53465992
Would danish police be able to do anything? I hate to see one of my countrymen lowering himself to streetshitting level

>>53466467
Yes, “allegedly” the founder spends his time based in Denmark, Latvia, and Lithuania. But I don’t know if that’s just a con artist bouncing his location around to appear more legit. All I know is Juche SIA is incorporated based out of Riga, ShitDiscreet registered to Lichenstein. And the team bounces around several countries in Europe. Which is all public information.

Some other anon from a few previous threads put all that together before they got ass blasted and deleted the thread.

https://www.getdiscreet.org/
Service Unavailable
HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable.
It's over

>>53466596
They have a .net domain now. That’s the old one they used for their first PnD scam.

>>53455050
If you read his description, it's not really meant to replace privacy coins, as the proposed method can't directly conceal the origin of funds. But what it WOULD do is somewhat decrease the effectiveness of blockchain analysis to know exactly which accounts belong to who.

I think this type of thing is important, because
successful prohibition of Monero is possible but requires that transparent blockchains are sufficiently monitored and locked down that they cannot be used as an intermediary to buy or sell Monero. Until that happens, you can't stop it just by banning it on exchanges. If networks like Ethereum fight against total KYCification, even without embracing full privacy, that can help Monero persist as a true privacy layer.

>>53464352
moonfags truly are the lowest of the low.

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FQStbwNCl2Y

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bHU-MASMBjM

Bamp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ofpaF5pkE8

never forget

GOOOOOOD MORNING XMR CHADS.

What the line doin?

>>53470276
Always remember how Monero got through tremendous amounts of FUD in its early days. The payoff was several thousand times increase in price for whomever who held.
>>53465849
Nice bait, might as well bite.
1. Monero is in better positions on both its XMRBTC (rising MA, broken trend, lower inflation than BTC), XMRUSD (cup and handle formation), and other altcoin fronts (literally up and bullish on all XMRwhatever charts) than most if not all top 100 cryptocurrencies (the ones that have non-0 validity).
2. Extreme gains occur only with extreme risks. This cannot be more true to the sector of cryptocurrencies, that's why any gains from mini/micro/nanocap coins are considered "degen gains" as they are no better than being a degenerate that gambles on the mortgage of his house.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Back to top 20, baby.

>>53470509
Good morning

>>53464352
Ftm, i believe it's soaring to $1, and in terms of reliability and transaction performance, sylo has a good chance.

>>53470276
Fun fact about that video:
You see a guy at 1:20 videotaping himself making a gigantic sell order of all of his Monero for Bitcoin, trading 43,875 XMR for 67 Bitcoin.

Today, those Bitcoin he sold them for are worth 1.5 million dollars. If he had kept the XMR instead, he would have 7.7 million dollars. If he changed his mind and tried to buy all of his Monero back, he would only be able to get 8,500 of them.

>>53471602
>Bbbbut zooom ouuut! I cannot believe this! boooo Monero's trash coin. Go down!! Noo what do you mean it's going up?!?

stacked 2.1 XMR this week

>>53472349
Based and chad pilled.

>>53410417
>>53410434
>>53412679
>>53412742
>>53412828
>>53412900
>>53415024
>>53420949
>>53422017
>>53423418
>>53462278
>>53463540
>>53465872
>>53471602
I'm just gonna say it
it does not make sense for monero-chan to wear exposed clothing
nevertheless I still love monero-chan !

>>53472405
Good observation.

>>53472405
View key is required beyond the surface level

don't forget today is /biz/'s first game at the 4chan winter cup against /vm/
with xmr-chan in the roster of course

>>53464416
Solved, my firefox profile was completely broken somehow. Actually could not sign into anything anywhere.
No I didn't bother figuring out what was broken I just switched profiles and copy/pasted my bookmarks and extensions folders. Problem solved.

>>53472677
I never paid attention to this. Is it like those football manager games where the matches play out with no input?

>>53472405
we mvst retvrn to trvdition...

>>53471602
>mfw watching one of the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever

Is there a way to directly exchange XMR for WOW?

why are we still poor?
>>53473102
hopefully no
>>53472677
wen?

>>53473102
The whole point of XMR -> BTC -> WOW on Tradeogre is to force you to provide liquidity for BTC -> XMR trades.

>>53472726
teams have managers who decide on the tactics and can live manage if they want, the streamer, aka 'rigger', makes the changes
click on cytube channel on the right for the stream: implyingrigged.info

>>53473185
>wen?
~4 hours

If anyone's watching /biz/ - /vm/ later it's the final match of today. Link below works without getting jannied or filtered.

>>53473551
https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html

>>53473102
>>53473380
I've grown to dislike wow. It's purely a speculative gamble akin to dog coin

>>53474302
will there be a match thread

/biz/bros we're up next after /x/

>>53475513
Yes, but it probably won't last long because /biz/ jannies are faggots and nuke cup threads outside /vg/ and certain other boards pretty fast

>>53474917
Same, it's mostly the domain of desperate poors, and given Monero's ongoing development, doesn't offer anything useful.

>>53475513
yea, i'll post it soon
most likely I'll cop a ban for it
t. manager

>>53475654
based manager bro taking one for the team

>>53475703
done

Just checking again.....yep, still an infinite supply shitcoin!

>>53474917
>>53475624

https://twitter.com/AnonShopApp/status/1617905807118721024

>>53472677
what if /biz/ wins?

>>53471515
Hello frien. How's your vestin goin?
I almost have 2 whole monero.

>>53472349
You are gonna make it friend.

>>53476040
It has been comfy. I feel much better about this bear market than the last one.

>>53475885
Explain how bitcoin is sustainable

>>53475885
the infinite supply is just to keep the miners working retard, lmao. You niggers are worse than gold bugs with "MUH ANY DAY NOW" Fiat and Monero are fucking based and red pilled, cope.
If it's really that big a deal there's a fork of monero called wownero which has a finite supply like Gold/Bitcoin. Cope.

>>53476440
It's also to make up for XMR lost from circulation because people get v& or die without passing on their keys
Fixed supply discourages actual use of the currency, because of the ebin "supply go down means value go up!!1"

>>53476730
>It's also to make up for XMR lost from circulation because people get v& or die without passing on their keys

Same arguments were made for BTC. A literal nothing burger.


>Fixed supply discourages actual use of the currency, because of the ebin "supply go down means value go up!!1"

We will never print the 6 trillion billion quadrillion xmr the reach that point. Besides the above is deflationary as you yourself admit. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

>>53422374
Coolest monerochan artwork i seen yet. Shame its a demonic occult symbol.

>>53477213
What? I'm in favor of tail emissions

>>53477503
I think only btcmaxifags are against tail emission
they have to hate everything, they have no choice

ai posters need to DIE

>>53478124
How about you create or pay for something, instead of complaining?
The Monerochans shall continue.

>>53478173
More like moneroCHADS amiright?

>>53410417
Fuck off parker

Monero glows like the moon

>>53478173
>The Monerochans shall continue.
and they shall
just not AI monerochans

sorry!

>>53478428
>Monero is the real glowiecoin

inb4 shilling xyz coin

>>53478428
I just love how shit like this is so obviously an attempt to astroturf monero either by shills for competing cryptos or obviously clear, real, actual glow niggers, lol. No rhyme or reason. Just >Monero glows

No explanation what so ever.

ok guys
I am in low liquidity mode now
currently balls deep in real estate (40 apartments) and was thinking on diversifying abroad, but also, as I gain liquidity, try to set up 2 modest safe houses on a semi rural zone while simultaneously using some of that to go into silver, gold, XRP. XMR and BTC
is this the right choice?
I believe key crypto, land, bricks (real estate), gund and precious metals are the way to go, even if I am financially constipated

>>53476404

When Bitcoin is at $1 million+ the fee market will adjust to ensure profitability.

>>53476440

Whole lotta talking just to distract you from the fact that at the end of the day Monero inflates value away while Bitcoin deflates to become increasingly more valuable over time.

Keep coping.

>>53477812

Y'all hate us cuz you ain't us.

I'll send you a postcard from the moon. :)

>>53478580

It glows because its being shilled unusually hard, its patently non-organic relative to its adoption and market cap.

Deny it all you want but it stinks to high heaven.

>>53478661
Why XRP? Isn't that just a shitcoin on the etherum chain? Save yourself some trouble and just replace that investment with stocks.
The rest are solid though.

>>53478699
Monero doesn't inflate value away.
Monero has tail emmisions because we need to keep the miners mining which, btw, if bitcoin ever were to become so unprofitable that miners could not or would not mine the network your bitcoin will be worthless.

You have been debunked multiple times in this thread and yet you cont to peddle your glow nigger bullshit. I have bitcoin also, but, you are just clearly retarded.

>>53478751
>The only coin that is as old as bitcoin is "non organic"

That is literally meaningless babble and the xmr general has existed as long as biz has. Are you new? What shitcoin are you about to try and peddle on the general?

>>53478762
Got pulled in with some of the tech behind it and thought it made sense at the time, but still only have like 2k usd on it. Most of my money is on the apartments though and they are selling slowly. My small real estate company does everything by itself (no debt and lower costs) and my country is a bit politically unstable right now. I just want the liquidity so I can diversify...I am in pain.

>>53478799
I'm a burger so I cannot relate to that that is insane. But also yeah I wouldn't invest in xrp or anything on the etherum chain. The whole chain is a scam.

Wow people who accuse monero of being inflationary are actually just lying glow niggers go figure:

https://sethforprivacy.com/posts/dispelling-monero-fud/#monero-has-an-infinite-supply

Response

This one is very common from the Bitcoin crowd, and is technically true.

However, there is a lot of thought and intentional design that has gone into the supply dynamics of Monero. Monero implements a “defined supply” of 18.4m coins, and has a tail emission of 0.6XMR per block after the defined supply has been mined. That tail emission starts ~May, 2022.

This means that Monero has extremely low inflation that approaches 0% forever, and is technically “disinflationary” or “asymptotatically approaching 0% inflation”. The inflation rate is currently lower than Bitcoin and gold, and will continue to decrease. It’s also important to realize that a low inflation rate like that of Monero is a way to replace lost coins over time in circulation, but is likely even too little inflation to account for lost coins (rough estimates are ~1.5% of coins lost in circulation each year, compared to Monero’s current inflation rate of 1.12% as of writing). This would mean that Monero is in fact deflationary, even with the low perpetual issuance.

It’s also extremely important to make it clear that Monero’s supply is pre-defined, verified and enforced via consensus, and entirely predictable, just like Bitcoin’s – you can know the inflation rate and totaly supply at any point in the future without doubts....

>>53478830
This tail emission enables two key features in Monero

A lower bound of network security forever (miners will always be able to rely on 0.6XMR per block, no matter the fee market)
A dynamic block size (Monero’s blocks can grow/shrink to adapt to short-term increases in usage, with a penalty to mining rewards during these times).

For more on both of these, see the resources below.

Resources

“Why Monero has a tail emission”:
https://localmonero.co/knowledge/monero-tail-emission
“How Monero Solved the Block Size Problem That Plagues Bitcoin”:
https://localmonero.co/knowledge/dynamic-block-size
Excellent Twitter thread on Monero’s tail emission and supply approach:
https://www.twitter.com/DontTraceMeBruh/status/1489979998228426754
Inherent risks in not having a defined block reward in perpetuity:
https://www.cs.princeton.edu/~arvindn/publications/mining_CCS.pdf

Monero’s long-term emissions as a percentage of total supply (notice they are constantly approaching 0%):

>>53478661
>currently balls deep in real estate (40 apartments)
kys

>>53478996
why?

>>53478818
xrp existed years before eth was created
stop talking shit you don't know, retard

>>53478673
>When Bitcoin is at $1 million+ the fee market will adjust to ensure profitability.

Peak delusion.

>>53479117
>>53479117
So do you get xrp on a wallet or how do you procure xrp?

>>53479144
>produce
xrp isnt crypto
look into the SEC case
once the case is over, no matter the outcome, xrp's price will increase
that's why it's been stalling for years now

Why should I buy this when Zcash has Halo 2 ZKP encryption?

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>>53479363
Nigga I said procure not produce learn to read.
>>53479363

water fu?

>>53479433
>So do you get xrp on a wallet or how do you procure xrp?
you buy it and you store it on a wallet
are you new?

>>53479063

kiss your sister