/biz/ - Business & Finance

What's with BBBY people talking like Qboomers? If any weirdness happens at all it'll be sub-$10.

I need Intel to stay dead until I am done with oil.

i dont know what to invest in other than boomer shit anymore. i feel so lost

>>53452895
Powell will hike by 50 beeps, anything else is bullfaggot delusions

i visited a client today and the receptionist had a very big brapper. and yes i'm still buying BOIL.

>>53452914
same

So, what's the most important earnings or 3 letter reports for tomorrow? Thanks frens

>>53452914
Personally I'm getting confused by the amount of canadian stocks in my portfolio.
I have 47 positions and and 7 of those are canadian. Their valuations looks just too good,

>>53452914
All the previously hot FAANGshit companies being almost half off all time highs will do that

>>53452942
I put $10k on CHTR based on one anon's reason-less shilling. Therefore that is the most important.

>>53452961
that was me
congrats
I sold already

>>53452942
BABA puts!

>>53452944
>he doesnt know about the canadian commodity scamco cycle
OHNONONONO

>>53452929
What is even a good entry price for something that loses %15 every day?

I keep milk in my minifridge for my coffee.

Threadly reminder that dividends are irrelevant. If you want a bit of cash from your stocks, you can sell some.

>>53452970
It was not. Also you're not an anon.

Are we in /smg/ smart enough to understand what's about to happen next week?

>>53452914
If you're planning on holding until you retire then just buy when it goes down in february, then buy when it goes down in may/june and buy when it goes down in september. Easy.

had a slow day at work, and it seems like the market was just doing its usual shenanigans so it was quiet today. glad i didn't make any trades today, although i might step in tomorrow and short a few stocks i heard about.....

>>53452983
but the dividend card gives you $50 vs only $45

>>53452947
It's FAGMAN ya geek

>>53452984
it was most definitely me

>>53452895
>>53452914
>>53452929
>>53452942
>>53452944
>>53452974
>>53452975
>>53452983
>>53452986
>>53452989
>>53452994
Already this many 1pbtid shills. Holy shit.

>>53452986
im not

>>53452994
That doesn't account for the 10% income tax applied to divvies (buybacks get the chad long term cap gains rate of 0%). Fucking Monopoly.

>>53452983
>dividends are irrelevant
lol

When will the bears go back to hibernation so we can discuss stock picks without being flooded with retards?

>>53452975
Well I'm buying near bottom of cycles. I'm up 40% on SU, 50% on CNQ, 20% on AEM, 15% on ADN.TO
Today I bought BNS on anon's reccomendations and so it's up 1% only.. I also own Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce which I bought earlier this month.
Overall they pay nice divvies, just sucks that taxes on them are so high. But it's still better than 2-3% paid by US companies most of the time.

>>53452995
I am sorry

>>53452996
Hmmmmmm maybe. What did you shill alongside it?

>>53452997
>projection: the post

so my INTC calls got a chance still, r-right?

>>53452997
BABA PUTS

>>53453020

>>53452995
Don't forget Tesla. The basket's full name is FAGTMAN.

I'm raising a toast to all you INTC buyers and all you retards that held and shilled that stock.
Congrats on getting fucked.

>>53452983
dont tell me this anon, schd and jepi are my only real holdings :(

>>53453032
what are your fake holdings?

>>53453023
Not if they're expiring this side of 2024.

>>53453031
It's kinda amusing to see this stock back where it was over 2 decades ago. And the divvy was not as high as it is today in past, so long holders got fucked on 2 fronts.

>>53453009
youre the retard
>OMG A BANKRUPT VIDEO GAME STORE IS GONNA SQUEEZE
>OMG A SILVER MINE IS FULL OF BILLION DOLLARS
>OMG MUTANT FISH IS CUTTING EDGE FOOD THATS GONNA REPLACE FOOD
>LETS INVEST IN THE TOP OF THE SEMICONDUCTOR IM A HIGH KNOWLEDGE TRADER LITERALLY CRACK
there is always something that needs to be shorted. most garbage needs to be shorted.

Kek I only have 200 dollarinos left cuz of intel . I got heemed so hard its insane ,this is the last time i gamble on earnings

>>53452985
is this a shitpost or do you actually believe you can call out the down months in advance

>>53453017
hell i dont remember

anime tiddies probably

>>53453045
bwxt

>>53453032
SCHD does alright if you compare its history to SPY. But JEPI is both a separate team of stock pickers and one that sells covered calls (i.e. trading away upside for income). Look how that's performed during the previous few months of bear, crab, and bull markets.

>>53452906
Because hopium is hell of a drug. People want to desperately believe that the recovery turnaround is just around the corner, that the short sellers are wrong, that there's an easy way to get rich.

I think the worst part about memes is how they make taking profit seem like a crime and constantly spew "buy shares, not options" yet never sell said overvalued options themselves because that would require a working brain to do.

>>53453032

>>53453062
Then my good sir I must conclude you are rusing me, nay, this entire general!

Constable, take him away.

>>53452942
I saw a random biz thread that said to buy WWE on Friday and sell on Monday .

holy shit BBBY really is about to get acquired, time to be a gambler

>>53453063
>headquartered in Lynchburg, Virginia
based

>>53453052
true, I still remember how confident bulls were about pic related, even when it was above $1. Some bears tried to provide actual info which turned out to be accurate later (i.e. few years long of Don repeating same lies). Problem is it's very hard for people to change their mind once they make it up, which is a good way to lose money in stock market.

>>53453062
Cum in anime. Make that possible by buying SOXL.

>>53453079
Which is sorta weird because their earnings are next Thursday. Is McMahon making his triumphant return to the ring over the weekend?

>>53453078
i looked it up

>>53453032
A valid concern. It's better for someone to hold "superior" dividend stocks than random altcoins or something.

>>53453099
Imma be dead ass with you BROTHER. I don't watch wrestling or know any of the characters. But I'm bored so I'll do what it said.

>>53453078
Yeah that’s not the same guy. But yeah I’ve got money on chtr as well cuz of that guy cuz of his supposed shilling of stx. If it doesn’t hit oh well. Made money from my intel shorts unless there’s a premarket pump tomorrow

>>53453110
what would you recommend i scale into beside those two? id hate to invest in spy it just feels so slow

>>53453100
Not the same guy that shilled stx

>>53453092
i enjoyed don posting but never owned the stock myself

>>53453030
Lol

Going back to only trading stocks after trading options is like smoking weed after smoking meth for years.

>>53453084
The acquisition meme is the worst cope of all cope. Why would someone want to buy the company now when they could just acquire it during the BK procedure in a fire sale?

>>53453014
https://www.scotiabank.com/global/en/country/brazil.html

hoping with lula that BNS expands more operations into brazil

>>53453116
Yeah and if nothing else it scratches that "zero thought casino" itch. I mean, worst case it plunges, what, 10% out of nowhere? What's $1k among frens?

>>53453140
hahaha

Are we seriously comparing shorting Garbage Don to being a doomer perma bear?

>>53453140
Shorted dated options on crypto miners. Now there's a way to permanently fry your risk tolerance.

>>53453130
I owned it for a bit. Sold for profit. Bought back in, realised I'm retarded and sold at loss. Overall I didn't make money but I got a wake up call.
And yeah, Don posting was top tier. I remember when one of the anons was convinced that people donposting were bunch of shills (who knows, maybe there actually were though).

>>53453059
There could always be a black swan or the market could crab instead of pump, but if you want to make some money you should bet on the market (generally) approximating the same trends it has in previous years.
>February selloffs: usually caused by tax season and big players having a need to pay the IRS
>May selloffs: usually caused by big players 'selling and going away' for the summer vacation
>September selloffs: usually caused by those big players coming back from vacation and selling the summer low-volume pump
Understanding these general trends and the reason they seem to play out often enough, you can put a chunk of change into the market at the low point of the selloff, if it occurs, and ride it back up. If it doesn't occur, you don't need to do anything, cashgang is fine. There's nothing being risked if you're only waiting for trends to play out month on month and year on year like they tend to over the past few decades.

>>53453168
there was a discord/telegram group shilling it here

Does anyone ever wonder how to analysts come up with earnings estimates? Maybe the company wouldn't miss if the estimates weren't way off

>>53453168
No way. All Don's money went towards sneakers.

>>53453031
Based.

>>53453177
yes but i am not telling you

>>53452895
Why do the markets keep fighting the Fed? When will the real dump come? I want another 80 percent down

Image is from when GME first went to $10 (pre-split).
Before that happened, every bullish post for GME was bombarded with people convinced that it was some discord PnD.

Turns out that sometimes good stocks are good stocks. Like SKYT you Intcels.

>>53453177
You can ask by messaging them on your Bloomberg terminal.

>>53453176
hmm, I wouldn't be surprised. Wouldn't be the first time. I still remember the day when AQB shills came with prepared custom memes, shilled whole day and right after market close CEO announced PO.
Not to mention pump n dump discord spams all accross financial websites. Damn 2021 had some sketchy shit going on.

>>53453194
>with people convinced that it was some discord PnD.
Technically true

INTC calls at open?

>>53452895
>When S&P drops ten points in after hours after rallying one hundred

>>53452989
im scared to check my portfolio. ive got about 2 good hours in me before i have to nappy poo. i was up before banks closed, but not market close.
just gotta stay positive and keep grindin.

>>53453176
Yeah the memes were pretty good just like aqb. Garbage don had some of the obvious pennyscam hallmarks though. Apparently cielo was working on gold or something in 08/09

>>53453194
well it pumped n dumped. So calling it PnD seems accurate to me
> t. someone who sold before dump happened.

>>53453119
If an S&P 500 index fund isn't taking enough risk for you, maybe you'd like a 2x leveraged version like SSO.

>>53453225
What's in your portfolio? I can tell you if it's safe to check.

>>53453119
I love ai artists

>>53453229
>>53453209
Yes but at the time everyone thought that $25 pre split was fair value. The company wasn't going bankrupt yet was shorted like they would close down every store the next day.
The short squeeze to impossible highs was never really brought up beyond maybe a shot to $30.
The game plan was to buy at $5 and sell at $20. Obviously it went way better than that.

Coom cat is still my hero.

Damn son. Instead of gambling against qqq I should have just shorted semis.

>>53453126
you are gay

>>53453249
It was textbook mania, I doubt anyone expected it to happen that way. The true winner was BlackRock though. It sold shares they accumulated in 2020 on top of retail heads.

>>53453249
>Coom cat is still my hero.
i enjoyed fudding GME at the time just to antagonize people but i ended up making some money on calls

>>53453236
bbby and vgfcq....

>>53453186
>Why do the markets keep fighting the Fed?
Pure hopium brother

Now, as an OG GME holder who sold for mega gains, it is my moral obligation to go laugh at the gme bagholder thread.
Then I will continue my Fallout New Vegas racist playthrough.
Gnight and remember to buy JXN and SKYT.

I only shit once every 17 days and the one time I had to shit and forget to bring my tablet while pooping, I missed the pump and I would of easy made 137k

>>53453294
GN. I might throw few hundred bucks at SKYT just to see what happens.

>>53453249
What amazes me about GME is that even AFTER January 2021's squeeze, AMC still managed to reach retard levels just 6 months later in June 2021. Everyone was convinced GME was a "once in a lifetime" event yet somehow an even shittier company managed to 30x a mere 6 months later.

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>>53453303
I just can't believe that we are one (1) year later and there is a cult, with dedicated generals and subreddits and schizo theories, based around a fucking stock. That's all so... unprecedented.

>>53453291
Is buying bankrupt companies some kind of new meta in investing?
I feel like it's a sign of desperate times: people doing all or nothing kind of thing in hopes ofreeing themselves from wageslavery.

I'm 90% in on a leveraged trade on a pre DA SPAC, i'm a nervous wreck and the basterd goes and steps down as intel chairman.
he better use the extra time to finalize a deal before i get CHOPPED

I hope all of your trades can go atleast breakeven, if any mediafags are present please start a company acquisition rumour for CPUH also i bought NOC instead of INTC yesterday cause its down for some bogus reason.

I went all in upro today

>>53453329
Rooting for you too, CPUHanon. I still remember the disappointment of PIPPophiles after it wound down without a deal.

>>53453177
They go to the investor relations page and ask the primary contact

>>53453328
That's PRAA's entire business model so I guess it has it's place.

>>53453321
>1 year
Anon, January 2021 was 2 years ago...

Also, schizo cult stocks have existed since forever. I'm more amazed that TSLA bulls still talk about "squeezing the shorts" when the stock hasn't been a popular short for almost 3 years now with barely 2% of the float sold short.

>>53453194
>every bullish post for GME was bombarded with people convinced that it was some discord PnD.
wtf r u talking about
a couple of naysayer ppl arent """bombarded with people"""

smg was literally gme general for months until it became mainstream, weekends were often dd threads, people were frequenting rk's streams and posting here and there (theres literally "tinny foiler" in one of the chat history of rk's streams) long before rk revealed he was dfv

>>53453329
He does not see the gap! The gap where the noccers lie. Waiting. To. Fill. You.

ok, hear me out... Sofi?

>>53453381
>Anon, January 2021 was 2 years ago...
No, that...that can't be.

I think I'm going to buy TQQQ and let it rip for a while

Also was thinking about that incel guy that pepper sprayed some beaner whores. If he started running and lifting and got a new haircut he'd be hot. But he probably felt entitled to a hot girl? I'm not sure why incels exist when fat chicks exist.

You do own uranium right?

>promised a market crash for 8 months running
>my shares just keep going up
>now at a record high
where is the crash

>>53453483
Two weeks

UR PUMP RUNS ON FAIRIE TALES AND MAKE BELIEVE MUMUS. CAPUTULATE.
>>53453440
Fat chicks still want 7/10 or better

When is the next Fed meeting?

please pray for my BABA puts, the crabbing this week has been brutal for them.

>>53453482
Isn't that predicated on squeezing the amount of uranium on the spot market? Uranium miners don't make a god damn penny.

>>53453328
desperate? nah; survival of the fittest? mhm.

>>53453504
https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html starts Tuesday, ends Wednesday.

god i can't wait for all these normie earnings bulls to get rug pulled by gas prices. it is kind of sick to watch how (((they))) just lay the trap and slaughter them every time though

>>53453492
7/10 is doable for most men, they really just don't want to put in the work

>>53453483
I'm thinking the jews can't afford to let the market crash again, and labor market woes don't necessarily translate to stock market trouble - see people seeing layoffs as bullish.

>>53453341
ohhhhh... PIPP, that one felt like drinking a coffee too close to bedtime.
i was luckily hyperfocused on minerals at that time and chose MP materials, ty for the (you)
>>53453393
the uhh.... the gap that makes it go up, r-right buddy?...

>>53452914
SPY
P
Y

>>53453482
I almost want to drop my tech job and become a nuclear engineer. Tech is ass. I'm sure nuke pays like shit, but it'd get me away from these jeets and micromanagers.

I just want to fill some gaps.

please just dump BABA i swear I will stop trading stocks just give me my money back please. pic related

my portfolio is entirely in jxn

LOL, BBBY has admitted it can't pay the loans. So the banks have called them all. Which means BBBY is as good as gone. The only thing left is for them to file chapter 7. Shareholders will get the shaft. No company will buy BBBY. Why would they? They'd get stuck with the debt. But if they wait till after the company files for chapter 7 and the debt gets kicked under the rug then yes some company will buy the scraps. Shareholders will still get the shaft though.

>>53453601
WE KNOW. GO TO THE COPE THREAD.

Bobros when should we short? Is it time to short semiconductors ?

I'm not saying you should screencap this but I do think that this Intel dump is just going to bring things down from technically overbought levels enough to just start more buying

>purchased a stock at $13 a share for $500, am a poorfag so it’s a decent chunk
>it drops to $1 in a few months
>1 year and 5 months later I’ve slowly stacked whenever it dipped to get an average cost at $1
>sold today and finally made my money back
Dear god I’ve learned so much since then, and I still don’t know anything

>>53453186
Kinda convinced a giga crash isn't happening. We're gonna crab forever

>>53453588
same.
>>53453601
correct, but why chapter 7 and not 11?

>all data prints good
>earnings are all meh-to-good
>inflation relentlessly coming down
>fed governors make increasingly dovish remarks
>china reopening
>covid vanquished

Is it really just uponly for the rest of the year then? When should I think about selling my all-in TQQQ position (up 40% in 3 weeks)?

>>53453561
please refrain from reminding me about PIPP

>>53453670
actually you know what im gonna do? im gonna put all my money in a checking account except $500 and then Im gonna LARP as a poor fag to try and get to 1k. Ill start by diversifying it in 7 different stocks, obsessivly checking it and posting how im down %5 in one day on something (-$3). Then ill go all in on TQQQ and baghold for 6 months until i finally am green on it.

>>53453679
If you sell this year you'll regret it when everything is even higher next year

>>53453679
Sell tqqq buy qld and average

>>53453679
All that could easily be negated if Jpow decides to cuck the market with 50bps. Although I'm willing to gamble this country's future in order to get gains

>>53453701
Solid strategy. Talking about percent instead of dollars is my go to. I don't hold tqqq more than a month before I sell at a loss

>SKYT up +25% in 5 days
whoa
I'm tempted, but I also feel like i already missed the boat

>>53453483
Zoom out

today my son jack is green for the 8th day in a row

8 days in a row, green
if it wasn't obvious early, it sure is obvious now that some big fund has recognized this and is accumulating all it can
>pe 0.5, eps 70+
>book value 100+
who knew price discovery still works

>>53453727
>All that could easily be negated if Jpow decides to cuck the market with 50bps
When anon, not if

>>53453697

What is prep? How does it stop aids? Can I get some and go to se Asia without fear of aids no matter what foul acts I perform?

>>53453872
Wear a condom, don't fuck trannies

>>53452906
sometimes a good play is a good play, the writing is on the wall for a merger/acquisition happening. even if buyout is $4.50 a share that would still be pure profit from where its at right now

>>53453767
The fed goes back on their word. Remember when inflation was only transitionary

BITFUCK IS GOING TO ZERO AND SO IS YOUR LITTLE STINK MARKET

SOXS BROS HERE WE GO

>>53453601
its getting acquired, don't be sour grapes about it when you find out, just hope you didnt fuck around and buy puts let alone short it

>>53452914
Same. I’m long;
VLO
TTE
NRG
VALE
NTR
URNM
CARR
BTI
BMY
ABBV
ABT
ABC
T
SBUX

>>53453971
>Remember when inflation was only transitionary
That was just propaganda to cover Biden's ass

>>53454018
You must be new to investing if you think the FED would listen to the white house

>>53453994
>SBUX
based, same. bought it when it dipped to ~75 a few months ago. the business fucking prints money and every single retarded normie i work with visits it religiously. could easily see it hitting 125 EOY

>>53453746
wait to see if insiders reported any buying. we can easily retraced to $7 if this is off of no news

>>53452983
thats literally just gambling. dividends you know you will get but a value increase is pure luck because the algos can drive it in any direction and it has no connection to the actual real world performance of the company behind the stock

MSFTbros im thinking tomorrow is gonna be a good day

>>53453009
i think this is a gambler thread. no one here owns stock. they just gamble options and maybe a few has some index

>>53454050
You know firms like renaissance do trading off of fundamentals right? lol. Schizos think all algos do is draw imaginary meme lines

>>53454050
>value increase is pure luck because the algos can drive it in any direction and it has no connection to the actual real world performance of the company behind the stock

>>53454034
>could easily see it hitting 125 EOY
why?

>>53454074
Ignore the cryptolards

>>53452983
i love it when the company spends $1 billion into diversity hires instead of just giving back $1 billion in dividends

so long as the dividends aren't taxed of course :)

>>53454050
>dividends you know you will get
>company gets heemed or stagnates for decades
>cuts dividends
Nothing personnell investors

>>53454075
>earnings announce
>stock pumps hard
>few days all of that wiped off
don't got this issue with dividends. once its on my account theres no risk of it running away

I can smell fear; not only in this thread but also on the streets...

They fear the future because it doesn't include their weakness. Aquabounty embraces mastery over evolution

>>53454112
never gonna happen with retail. people need food and chains know to rip off the customer as hard as possible

>>53453194
anyone interest in some /biz/ vintage from gme times? I don't remember it the same way this anon does, it was far more GME positive

i saved some html pages of biz back then because im autistic
i didnt save it from when the squeeze was actually prime (basically any point past mid january 2021) because biz turned to garbage at that point with too many newfags
some anons never came back because of that (or because they already made enough to retire)

>>53454144
Kmart

>>53453561
Up in bizzaro world

>>53454033
I mean that's what happened, intentionally or not denying how bad inflation was at that time was covering Biden's ass

January is almost over. What are your gains or losses so far? Any New Year's resolutions you're sticking with?
>Am up 2.9%. I'm still doing 30 minutes of burpees a day. Weight loss is going well.

>>53453656
>13 -> 1 in a few months
What the hell

>>53454077
Because it’s the kleenex of coffee. The Qtip even. People don’t get coffee in the morning. They get Starbucks. Recession or not, these idiots will fit in their $7 upside down caramel macchiato with drizzle in the cup and 2 add shots. I see it everyday.

>>53454162
upon looking at some old threads i stumbled on maybe the one instance that tinny used capitals in his post

>>53454197
and how long do you plan on holding onto that position?
i can't see people paying for $15 coffees when inflation really starts to kick in

>>53454187
Beating SPY by a smidge so far, which is always my goal.

>>53454180
The FED was responsible for inflation you fucking retard. Take politics out of your DD and maybe than you'll make money off of the market

>>53454124
Tell me more. Will fish be the new almighty financial power?

>>53454214
>how long?
Until they’re dethroned. Until they’re the BB to AAPL. So probably another 10-20 years. I’ll just add on dips. The dividend isn’t bad either.
>people won’t
Yes they will. Niggers on welfare buy Starbucks every single day.

>>53454106
Then you'd like stock buybacks as much as dividends. (More, if you consider taxes.)

>>53454219
>The FED was responsible for inflation you fucking retard
When did I say they weren't?

What does it mean if a pre-IPO SPAC is issuing junk bonds to pre pay debt? Is that bullish because they're getting their books in order before going public or bearish because even with an IPO amount they still need bonds to pay denbts?

>>53454246
how come that theres plenty of affordable big company stocks in europe but in the us market almost everything cost $100 or more? why don't they make these more affordable to normal people?

>53454287

>>53454287
>His share amounts have decimal points

holy crab

>>53454287
You mean in terms of valuation or stock price? Are you looking to invest in value? Stock price really doesn’t mean anything. A $10 stock can be way over valued and a $300 stock can be undervalued. US stocks probably have a lot more growth priced in since Europe’s economy and innovation is currently deeper in the shitter than ours.

>>53454312
how can anyone be fans of the crab

>>53454124
>AQB used to be almost ten bucks
how the mighty memes have fallen

>>53454325
Get at least a mid 6 port. Only takes a comfy 20% return and you've got yourself a salary.

>>53454322
current stock price. its what people pay for it so isn't it the relevant value? you can have a big isp like telia for a mere 2.39€/stock meanwhile you are lucky to get a single stock from an american equivalent

>>53454307
i have DRIP turned on ok, stop trying to bully me

>>53454354
huh lost some text there meant to say with $100

>>53454225
Undercutting prices from competitors due to disruptive innovation (gene technology) will be a prime symptom of the coming deflationary cycle in wich AQB and other "meme stocks" will go to the moon so hard it will be considered as the "MOAS" Invest in mutant fish now or be left behind in the stoneages.

>>53454253
depends, a mix of both is essential

pure share buybacks is just so executives can dump their bags at the top, prime example being facebook when billions were spent in share buybacks at the peak while insiders were offloading their shit

share buybacks can just be burning money when you dont have the price stability that dividends offer, even microsoft had a divvy yield around 1-3% before the peak of the low-interest growth bubble

>i was considering buying $4k worth of P911 at its IPO but didn't because i didn't think the automotive industry was healthy
>mfw it's up almost 30% just a few months later
i should have known
porsche always wins

and for that 2.4€ you get 0.2 dividend but with that $100 you are lucky to get any at all. american stock is a huge ripoff for anyone looking to earn with dividends. like that almost $200 oil company that only pays $5 a year

>>53454354
Games Workshop (GAW.L) is worth £9200/share, with a market cap of ~$3 billion. A lot of it has to do with shares outstanding.

>>53454391
what broker lets you buy frankfurt stocks? I wanted to buy into it so badly.

>>53454385
>not writing puts on your own company then buying back shares to destroy shortsellers

>>53454423
Ibkr

>>53454399
because you're looking at the wrong places

this is a company that gives 5% dividend yields *AND* share buybacks (2022 total share buybacks were $400-500 million so more than 10% of the company already just that year alone)

>>53454385
Yeah, buybacks can sometimes cause problems or be a sign of problems in the company. But hedge funds and other investors see this and discount the share price accordingly.

>>53454426
if you want an example of share buybacks fucking over short sellers then look no further than DDS

i would have bought back into GME if they were actually profitable for similar reasons, but lol well that never happened
DDS used to be overshadowed by GME and BBBY back in 2020, funny how now it's actually the best performer
never bought a single share unfortunately, just stayed in my watch list the whole time

>>53454441
are buybacks still worth it now that they started taxing them? might be possible to have a special account where your gains aren't affected before you withdraw them so you can keep investing without paying tax between changes but if its done by the company they always have to pay

>>53454436
The forbidden stock.

>>53454480
yes i never reveal the ticker lest it get jinxed again by newfags

>>53454399
You sound a bit new to the market. I don’t mean that as an insult in any way. You should do some reading on valuations, dividends, buybacks, industries, and some other things. Also, if you can’t get, learn to read a balance sheet well. There’s far more to stocks than share price and payouts.
Chasing yields was a mistake I made at one point. It took a while to realize that it was more often than not a bad idea. I say that as someone who likes dividends.

>>53454452
BBBY tried employing the same strategy of aggressively buying back shares to fuck over short sellers. Why did DDS succeed? Haven't followed it.

>>53454436
Delete that Mr. Jackson.

I hope none of you are dumb enough to fall for this SKYT shilling.

>>53454484
don't you usually want to have as many units of stock as possible? like if you have one stock that goes up $0.01 its just that but if you have 1000 stocks go up that its already some decent money

>>53453750
yeah mate im zooming
straight to the fucken moon

>>53454479
From what I read, the US's new buyback tax is currently too small (1%) to have much effect on companies' decisions.

>>53454436
How is that stock still so unknown or talked about. So weird.

>>53454512
Its not my problem if you miss out. At least you won the forbidden ticker though.

>>53454521
No that’s not how it works. Though most think that way in the beggining.

Good stock literature?

Watching BBBY crash and burn has been hilarious

>>53454543
Profitable companies are comfy. Not into lotteries.

>>53454488
>Why did DDS succeed? Haven't followed it.
because they actually make a profit
the insiders also wanted to take the company private last i remember? either way, they're not dumping their shares since whatever family it was definitely wants to keep control of the company, probably has a lot to do with the company owning the land the stores are on -> as a result, float is choked as fuck
there were only 3 insider sells in 2023/2022, insider ownership is >30%

again i might be remembering some parts wrong,

>>53454549
does something like chevron really have enough movement to make it worth getting one of it instead of 10 or more of something cheaper? i fear it would be eternally stuck in a fee trap

>>53454550
play the fuckin game nigga aint no book teachin u numbers hahahaha

>>53454436
Can you please Stfu and let the rest of us accumulate

>>53454575
In this case you would be interested in the volatility, not the price. Percent changes man, think percents. $1000 is a $1000 regardless of whether it is 20 shares or 3

>>53454562
Ok dude. Then have fun missing out and shut the fuck up.

>>53454564
I suppose I'm just surprised Dillards of all things is up 1600% since 2020, but maybe I'm just not their intended customer. It seems like the company also doesn't drown itself in debt, so that already puts it in a different league than BBBY (or PRTY which was profitable).

Not a buyer, but thanks for the info.

can someone give me a qrd on the adani shitshow? i missed it all

>what charts do i use?
>i just type the ticker code into google

>>53454187
-2.4% while learning to swing trade

>>53454193
It was hell

>>53454584
What’s your target on that one? I bought at $32 and sold around $36 because I got impatient.

>PTON is still worth $4B
is there a logical reason to own this co at all?

Lads, I got tired of fucking around and embraced my autism again today. I downloaded the historical data of about 80 symbols and did a bruteforce compare to look at correlation of assets. Mostly I did SPDRs for sectors and MSCI-series ETFs for countries and a few choice tickers for commodities. Didn't include bond-backed etfs or forex things, but I can easily tweak it.

Available in both csv and ods formats:
https://files.catbox.moe/nkskhd.csv
https://files.catbox.moe/swq9wl.ods

>>53454187
Up about $180 on active trades since I worked on my risk management over the last 2-3 months.
>Still did a retarded short spread on HAS in the middle of november after it fell 33% and almost ate $700 in losses, but if the postmarket price today holds, I'll only be down $80 in losses
Options are a wild ride and you still have to use TA or whatever else to swing 'em on the trades

>>53454579
i do trade, im trying to up my game man what the hell

>>53454436
>>53454584
I figured out which one it was, I remember it making waves last year. Why is this one gaining so much traction? Is it related to CBDCs in March?

>investing in regional banks in anno domini 2023 prior to the historic auto loan blow out crisis
>ISHYGDDT

Well this is it bros, I'm finally back. Didn't go homeless today, feels good. Might take a break for a bit, it was a fun ride.

Excel bros, we're going home...

>>53454758
Remind me again what metrics you're using to calculate the chart? Also what is your Y axis measuring?

>asset bubble meme chart
Wait a sec, according to your scale, 2012 was the "first sell off" and we've already had a double top and return to the mean
If you zoom all the way out to 1970, you can see we've only had the first peak. I firmly believe we'll have a real, proper crash after this rally goes on for a little bit.

I deserve sex

how do I short pfizer and moderna

>>53454755
that looks terrifying

>>53454725
I honestly don't know to much. All I know is that their fundamentals are good, their a trusted company in their market and that their doing share buybacks. Also they generate more money than the waste on buybacks and divies. Semms like a buy for an unknown company with a low P/E.

>>53454789
so does that chicken

>>53454775
This is my personal gains since2010, so essentially current account value minus total past deposits (with withdrawals also factored in). I hide the Y-Axis so you can't see exactly how much money I've made/lost. I have other charts that show account values and net worth too. The formula for going forward is a weighted combination of my past performance and S&P.

>>53454604
not a buyer either but interesting case to learn from noinetheless

you dont need actual growth in a company for stock price to go up when you have profitable share buybacks and a float that keeps getting choked more and more.
lets you be more open to other similar opportunities elsewhere like the forbidden stock

>>53454805
It was rough buddy, more than just what I gained I learned so much about money, markets and how people see you when you're in the shitter. Really opened my eyes to looking at myself from the outside if it makes sense

>>53454813
The P/E is interest hedge gains which are not real earnings. Temporary accounting gain offset by future cost.
It's cheap on real earnings though.

>>53454794
There's a big sell button on Fidelity, put "sell short"

>>53454789
If you're ugly and unsociable, there's fat girls. If sex really was the issue you'd go after fat chicks.

>futures

>>53454831
Oh, I don't remember you saying that before but then it's been a few months since I asked. What's your trading strategy like right now? Any ideas for the next year? I'm leaning commodities

>>53454844
im too retarded to differentiate between actual earnigs and hedging

all i know is i'll just sell half my position when it gets halfway to the same multiples its insurance peers are trading at (e.g. i look at BHF though obviously it's not a 1:1 comparison)

>>53454871
I mostly DCA into index funds, and gamble a little on options without any strategy, tactics, or even though. I just fomo into shit

>>53454844
>The P/E is interest hedge gains which are not real earnings. Temporary accounting gain offset by future cost.
How do you mean? Their 10-K filings are using gray accounting magic to make it look more profitable?

>>53454833
CROX is a similar case that I'm actually invested in. Was buying back shares like crazy from 2020 to 2021, then bought out HeyDude by issuing shares + taking debt, causing them to halt buy backs. It's rebounded already though because they've hinted at restarting the buyback program.

>>53454880
They're not doing it to confuse you. It's some bullshit mark-to-market GAAP rules.
They're at around 5-6x operating earnings. You can see these numbers in their quarterly reports. Still cheap.

>>53453009
>nooo Bobo posters won't let me talk about stocks
DAS RITE UDDER BOY WE TAKIN YO SHIT FUCK U GON DO NOW HUH

>>53454867
Wtf is this real?

Gasoline will be $6 a gallon by summer

help me biz i have a trust fund but im poor because of my 0dte addiction. alas i am down bad, but still have 24 years of quarterly distrubtions before the final options yolo

>>53454325
People who are short theta, probably.

>>53454993
100% quit option gambling

>>53454923
>They're not doing it to confuse you
You're vastly overestimating my intelligence

we have the board full of people crying about losing with options but somehow its still the most popular thing after crypto here?

>>53455013
options are mostly bait for get rich quick retards

>>53454452
>>53454564
Nokia employed this same strat, is highly profitable and they still get dumpsted by MM.
2 years I've been lugging around this bag of fucking crabs.

>>53455013
u dont hear about people winning as much because they're boring as fuck

my best options play i've sat on for months or even over a year because they were LEAPS not weeklies
at that point you're basically just holding leveraged shares

>>53455013
the funny thing about a gambling addiction is the dopamine hit isn't from winning/losing, it's the moment you place the bet

>>53454993
Look into leaps or something, I thought I was a degen never even touched 0dte option

ITS A TRAP

>>53455022
>>53455013
I don't like the risk/reward of the short legs (eg short straddle), and doing long gamma just seems difficult and wasteful.
t. wasted $3k last year, but at least it's deductible

>>53455026
that's a 20+ billion cap company

i think u just had wrong expectations when you saw its "small" stock price
when it went from $4 to $6, would you have thought differently if you saw $400 to $600 instead?

>>53455013
Options are cool if you're not retarded.

What I like to do to find companies is pull up the daily list of 4000 or so tickers that aren't shit (eg 25k daily volume, $10m cap, more than $1 price) and look at the ATR. If you compare ATR vs Close, you can express ATR as a %.
Most swingable stocks are in the 2-4% atr range.
Look at these shitcos with like 40% atr

>>53455073
What's your main strategy with those? Writing for theta farming?

>bed bath and beyond was at near its current low before the 2020/2021 brrrr print
>its 2021 ATH almost brought it back to 2017 levels while it was tanking in a 5 year downtrend up to 2020 bottom

Gotdamn just how did jerome dump that much fiat in the markets? Its like everything went up literally.

BBBY is gone

>>53455106
13 trillion dollars of debt was bought by the fed

>>53455073
Most people are with them, learn your greeks anons

Gnight bros

>>53455114
Now do GME

The S&P 500 will obviously top 4100 in the near term. How best to profit from this?

>>53454550
>>53454715
I like The Laws of Trading. Handy principles even if some of them are very beginner-ish.

>>53454423
Etoro if you don't mind using a jew platform

>>53455044
Not really. And that fucker took off straight to like 9.70 or thereabouts. idk. I feel it gets a negative perception because memetards made it a reddit thing.

It's not like 20b cap companies or even trillion dollar cap companies aren't making 20-30% moves in this market.

>>53455156
20-30% moves in a month*

>>53455150
>featured stock: CVNA
oh god I'm staying away

>>53455034
yeah i think i need to expand my timeframe so its more like stacking shares. then ill be able to build some savings back up

>>53455099
>What's your main strategy with those? Writing for theta farming?
That's part of it. A lot of experimenting. Eventually I want to move to buying SPY and writing puts only. Less growth but less risk.

>>53455099
looks like he has good entries. if i had just waited an extra week to go short. same thing happened at the top of the last bear market rally, at the height of the summer.

The stock. Forbidden Stock.

Say it's name.

>>53455199
No way, N0ob.

>>53455199
KODK

have you guys read any trading literature other than the laws of trading?
not satisfied with my first 2 years as an investor

Three Letters. The Value stock. Say its name. Spell out the three letters.

>>53455215

>>53455211
Fine. How about The Trades of March 2020? Guy outlines how his hedge fund traded the COVID crash, including his thinking, life drama, and Slack chats.

>>53455220
Jackson.

The Eye Of The Glass.

Miss Jackson.

The Philosopher's Penchant.

The Statutory Capital.

The Trapdoor Spiders.

The Variance Swaps Hedged By Vomma-Zeta Bands.

>>53455191
>SPY
What I saw a prop firm doing on YT is writing SPX credit bear spreads on 0dte, with a specific premarket futures setup.

>markets down a lot: lose
>markets down a little: win
>markets crab: win
>markets up a little: win
>markets up a lot: win

They'd prep at 9 am and have trade levels and exits figured out so as soon as the market opens, they fire the trade.
What's important here is that SPX is cash settled so they don't end up with shares and if they get early assigned, it's just a spread difference

https://boards.4channel.org/biz/thread/5345523153455231
>>53455231
>>53455231
>>53455231
https://boards.4channel.org/biz/thread/5345523153455231
>>53455231

>>53455232
>is writing SPX credit bear spreads on 0dte
imagine the margin costs.
what kind of prop firm was that?
do you mind sharing the video? guess it was more of a documentary than a display of strategy.

>>53454876
>>53454844
it's just how annuities work. really it should be treated as deferred revenue