/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>53439809
Niggers

No fucking way, I just finally turned my portfolio green after 8 fucking months. I can't believe it, thank you biz for this fucking journey. My god, what a ride.

But AMZN doesn't have a divvy... yet....

>HE DIDNT BUY META AT A P/E OF 8
>HE BOUGHT THE MSM LIES ABOUT THE METAVERSE WHILE INSTITUTIONS SLURPED A GENERATIONAL BOTTOM OF THE FUTURE OF TECH
>RETAIL GOT FLEECED ONCE AGAIN
IT CANT KEEP HAPPENING

ZUCK MAKES US BUCKS

>GUZZOLINE

>>53439828
"The market" is basically where it was 8 months ago

LONG PFIZER THEY'RE MUTATING COVID SO IT NEVER GOES AWAY

>>53439853
Well I only do options buddy so the market didn't do shit for me

>>53439827
Well maybe have them double check their numbers with the Atlanta F.E.D. Because GDP is going to at least be between 1% and 3%.

>>53439853
SPY first achieved 400 on April 1st, 2021. Isn't that fascinating?

>>53439855
OH MY GOD IS THAT AN UNSOURCED TWITTER SCREENCAP ABOUT A POLITICIZED ISSUE

AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Reinvest divvies, don't chase divvie stocks

>>53439828
>>53439860
Congratulations but don't let it dazzle you. Keep a level head.

>>53439875
Does KO beat KOF?

Every single day, I used to think, I did everything wrong in my life which lead to where I was. But now, I think about all the ups and downs and I'm glad I went through all that shit.

today the short volume in MSFT was 66%, the highest since at least September, but I think much longer than that
insane level of short selling going on today in MSFT
>66% short session after earnings reported

>>53439894
MSFT missed earnings because I pirated my copy of Windows.

Sorry, guys.

how the FUCK do I value a company like Benjamin Graham?

Sweep the leg Johnny

I got denied...

>>53439889
No

>>53439931
Give them a call chud or just get Robinhood

>SOURCE? SOURCE? CAN I SEE A SOURCE PLEASE? SIR THAT HAS BEEN DENUNKED SIR SIR PLEASE STOP POSTING THAT

>>53439890
Fuck that gay shit

>>53439931
Options will just lose you all your money anyways. Time In The Market Beats Time-ing The Market.

>>53439894
that really doesnt mean anything. they missed earnings and 33% of people still bought the stock that day. lmao!

> your grandparents (and potentially parents) won't be around by the time you've fully "made it"
Feels bad man.

anime is gay

>see chink stock with DONG in the name
why yes that is a certified buy

>>53439975
My last grandparent died like 15 years ago

gunna be able to buy a t-bill and make 5% here soon.

>>53439998
> Buying Ch*nese scam stocks
why no I will not be doing that

>>53440008
Do you think they'd be proud of you?

>>53439809
anime stock women owe me sex

>>53440053
No idea. I never met my mother's parents, they were dead before I was born (one by heart attack, one by suicide). My dad's parents were so old, and had so many fucking grandchildren and great-grandchildren that I wonder if they even knew who I was.

>>53440011
Going to get a home (cheaply) and pay it off early since I am terrible with risk.

>>53440090
That's unfortunate, I'm sorry anon. My grandparents are/were a big part of my life, so I'm sad that they won't be able to see me climb the mountaintop.
In any case, if no one else is proud of you anon, just know that I'm proud of you. I know that's an empty platitude from a stranger, but that's alright. Keep on working towards you dreams. And don't forget to buy more SOXL.

>>53440116
Thanks. I haven't fully made it, but I'm doing well. I guess my parents are proud of me, but I don't really talk to them that much, so idk. My idiot younger siblings keep them occupied.

>>53439931
lmao

ive been holding soxl for like a year now. when is it our (lums) time???!?!

>>53439809
imagine buying non qualified dividend paying stocks as a young person and unironically paying withholding taxes your entire life

imagine paying taxes at all.

imagine

>>53440274
I've already paid them..... now I have to beg the government for some of it back... and pay Intuit for the pleasure

>>53440290
Just do it yourself. It is not hard.

>>53440256
I noticed I got some "cash dividends" instead of qualified ones. Guess I will find out soon what those mean.

>>53440302
I don't want to risk catching an IRS SWAT bullet

>>53440315
No really, it is not hard. Just google whatever form you get and read the guide the IRS puts out. The site they list even does the math for you. Fuck INTU, don't give those curry bastards another cent.

turns out i was just a day early with my puts. sold them for a nice 9% gain to my poorfolio. could've been 11% but was busy waging. i've learned my lesson and won't trade this market until monday again.

>>53440323
How do you actually submit though? By mail?

Threadly reminder, scoopsies is directly responsible for poem anons AIDS and therefore his death. I miss him...

>>53440346
Yeah but who gave 2 scoops HIV? You?

Anons, I'm getting real nervous with the way the markets have been acting lately. These huge pumps despite the bad news could really fuck it all up in due time. Hyperinflation or another great depression actually seems possible now.

I won't be surprised if jerome gets pissed off enough to do a 100bps hike rate as a middle finger to greedy investors playing stupid games.

>look at chart just now after it dunked to 3850
What the fuck? What caused this bounce? Are you telling me that nobody fucking cares the earnings were absolute trash and they're going to get worse?

What the fuck is the market on about now even?
>MAYBE THE EARNINGS WILL BE GOOD OOOOOOOOO BUY BUY BUY BUY
>earnings are shit
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>maybe that means fed will pivoooooot OOOOOOOO BUY BUY BUY BUY

>>53440323
I did it myself last year but enterting each trade by hand did get annoying. I think I used cashapps digital forms but no way to upload/scan to avoid manual entry.

>>53440337
https://www.irs.gov/filing/free-file-do-your-federal-taxes-for-free

>>53440356
Its kind of scary how locked spy is to 400. Its range is tightening which usually suggests breakdown. With no QE in sight and high rates that suggests movement to downside.

>>53440366
I can't do the freefile since I make too much money... I might try the fillable form... but idk, I get a lot of different forms

>>53440356
what you zoomers dont understand is that 5% or more interest rate is actually the norm, the last decade was the anomaly not the norm

>>53440356
>100bps hike rate
oh yea
do it JPOW you know u want to

>>53440346
>Poem anon
That reminds me, there used to be way more posters here I could recognize
Whatever happened to that fag that painted himself black

>>53440356
>he doesn’t know they changed how cpi is calculated
>he doesn’t know they will “revise” cpi downward
>he believes their lies

>>53440413
Capital should be free. Like medical care or fried chicken and purple drank.

>>53440471
im a zoomer i dont know what the fuck purple drank is

>>53440509
Brush up on your Dave Chappelle jokes

>>53440356
Idk man all I see is a crab to 380 forever

>>53440413
Indexes. Divvys. Everything has to beat 5% now.

Omg

How bad is it gonna get bros..? Tell me the truth

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/founder-financial-firm-plunges-death-manhattan-rooftop-bar/

>>53440547
Bad omen right there

>>53440547
Is this the guy who caused the trading halts on Tuesday

>>53440557
When bankers start jumping you know shit about to get real

>>53440547
hedgie bros.. not like this

>>53440547
>We're getting wall street fags jumping from windows
It's (almost) over

>>53440547
>Connecticut Firm
literal nothing burger

>>53440360
Pumping on bad earnings is the final stage of pivot delirium. If earnings were good the market would've tanked because of decreased pivot chances.

>>53440547
>How bad is it gonna get bros..?

>>53440547
what people dont get is a lot of the times these fellas were already suicidal and make a bet if they win they continue living, if they lose they jump

>>53440547
OH SHIT BROS

>>53440352
He's a nigger, he was literally born with it

>Hang Seng ripping
>BABA is still flat
my puts may be saved just yet

ChatGPT is legit unsettling

>>53439834
>having faith in the metaverse

>>53439948
hahaha fuck you nigger

>>53440547
was probably long natty gas

f

Mass layoffs are bearish. Companies lay off people when they don't expect growth.

>>53440445
>Whatever happened to that fag that painted himself black
>painted
https://youtu.be/qnlx9gwiHG8
yo niqqa, so I herd ya b thinkn muh skeen cuhluh b fake n sheeeeett?

>>53440930
Mass Layoffs are bullish because 90% of employees don't produce value

>>53440212
Around 10 years. Semiconductor production is hampered by the Ukraine war.

>>53440940
>370k
How did you get that high of TC?
I'm seething and frustrated I'm under 200k because of a stock drop and getting cucked hard for a promotion and now just want out but the job market's kind of fucked.

Is your current role senior?

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>>53440996
>404
Nice work, nigger.

>>53440996
You're a fucking failure SOXLscoops
I vote for John Rocker as the King of /smg/

>>53440965
I would say bearish because yeah, they could be replaced, but...that shit takes time and who knows if the new employees will be any better than the last ones. Usually companies that lay off way too much don't recover iirc.

>>53440620
Right? What did I tell you guys, I wasn't making it up when I got a bad feeling earlier.

Hey /baka/, wanna hear a joke?
Call buying mumus.

>>53440994
>How did you get that high of TC?
I basically have the entirety of Designing Data-Intensive Applications memorized
>Is your current role senior?
Yes

Just got two more books this week.
>pic related
I think I’ve got a grand total of about 5-8 physical books just on the subject of system design at this point, and possibly another one or two dozen pirated.

I can make a very compelling argument that spanner is literally a flaming pile of useless garbage.

should i uhh buy NOC or uhhh should i uhhh buy INTC, what do you think

>>53440356
Even if he sticks to 25 bepis I think he will use blunt language to slap the euphoria out of Mumus

>>53441000
idk mane, works for me

>>53441045
GODDAMMIT
here’s the pic

Name a piece of news that might happen and I will make it bullish.

>>53441059
It doesn't work for anyone else though. They logged your ip adress and the police in on their way to shoot you like a dog.

>>53439958
Not selling them. Thats probably what he got denied for

Up, down, or right tomorrow. I'm thinking down desu

>>53441047
I bought intel

>>53441045
>I basically have the entirety of Designing Data-Intensive Applications memorized
I'LL REREAD IT
I HAVE ONE HERE TOO
>>pic related
WHERE
I'M DYING
TELL ME

In your view of things with the market for new positions:
Java vs Go
I'm fine with either at this point.

>>53441071
Another war breaking out unrelated to russia-ukraine. Maybe Taiwan. Your choice.

>>53441070
Oh.
Thank you. I'll add those to my list too.

Was DDIA the defining thing for your advancement? I will put every other book I have right now away except for that one if it is. It'll stay by my bed, my desk, and I'll sit with it on the shitter until I've memorized it too.

>>53441059
>Secret Nigger voodoo hyperliking
baka desu senpai

>>53441087
You will come to regret this decision as I have.

>>53440803
Why? All it does is regurgitate Wikipedia, tell stories, and call you racist. It’s fuckin retarded if you ask me.

>>53441071
Since you're not responding I have another one.
Mayor terrorist attack bigger than 9/11 on all mayor european cities like berlin, paris etc. exectued by the russian kgb. Effectively plunging europe into chaos and triggering a panic buying of toilet paper.

>>53441089
>I'LL REREAD IT
I’ve re-read some of the chapters 3-5 times over the past 4 years, and I still learn new things from it every time

>WHERE
here:
>>53441070
sorry

pic attached is a better ranking of books though.
I’d put Specifying Systems on the second row, and Distributed Systems either there or on row 3 from what I’ve skimmed from them so far

>Java vs Go
Java. Go is really only popular within google and among hipsters.
Even within google, they probably use C++ just as much from what I heard.
On top of that, they’re working on a new language called Carbon that’ll give Golang a short shelf life.
I had to learn Golang for my current job because my department is at least half ex-Googlers, and it’s honestly not that great at all.

>>53441071
India declaring bankruptcy because of this hindenburg fraud thing. Chinese banking system consequently collapsing and the decision of the CCP to close all outside communication because of perceived foreign interferences wich are at fault

>>53441143
>Russia
>terror attack

>>53441135
Got some intel but mostly SOXX
>Semiconductors are literal magic runestones that society depends on for everything

>>53441111
>Was DDIA the defining thing for your advancement?
Probably.
I landed a senior role through interviewing rather than promotion.
The job market being ferociously hot in the spring also probably helped a ton.

This has been right so far. Should i buy mining stocks?

>>53441177
well it would be some before unknown muslim leaders orchestrated by the kgb in the same way the CIA did it with 9/11 what's so hard to believe about that. The russians always copy everything the west is doing

>futures
>Leaked INTC earnings
Not like this…

>>53441226
>Stalin as the mascot for food
Devilish. But fuck it, I'd try Uncle Joe's chicken.

>>53441157
>Go is really only popular within google and among hipsters.
And chinese. It's fucking disgusting.
I can't believe I spent so much of last summer learning this. I'm never joining a chinese company again.

>>53441071
Credit card delinquency shooting through the roof

>Cock and ball TA pattern forming in the bond markets

>>53441272
>And chinese.
>never joining a chinese company again.
fascinating. was it ByteDance/TikTok?

BBBY merger looking spicy

>>53441304
are they just selling themselves to Amazon who’ll convert all their real estate into warehouses?

>>53441292
Nope. Too much info past this could doxx me. They surely pay way more than this shit hole too lol.
Never work for a chinese company. The politics and poor engineering is just unreal.

NIGGER

tomorrow is my day. say it with me.

>>53441108
Money printer ON

>>53441143
European investors dump money into U.S. markets

>>53441166
Indian workers and programmers now work for even less

>>53441286
Money printer ON

>>53441047
LMT's about to swap in F-16's for a bunch of NATO planes that are being sent to the Ukies. GD will have new orders for at least a couple hundred Abrams.

Is Intel doing anything to contribute to Are War Effort?

>>53440940
Ah the old apartment, I remember it fondly. That was the first time we met and instantly fell in love too. Shame it didn't work out between us...

>>53440364
Apparently unless you have LPs or weird daytrade stuff you can just enter the aggregate amount. My tax preparers did that last year.

>>53440547
Blood. In. The. Skeets.

lel

>>53441492
What company. I need to invest immediately

>>53441492
>>53441506
WTF

>>53440547
Uh oh. We were all waiting for this day.

i'll do my taxes drunk at 8PM on the final day of tax season like a normal person, thanks

THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8n_lKuIpK0

>evergrande
>superbubble
>ukraine
>its taiwan next trust me bro
>europe freezing to death
>diesel shortages
>fertilizer shortage
>food shortages bro
>the fed isnt unwinding its balance sheet
>quantitative tightening will destroy the market just you wait
>credit suisse lehman moment
>Bank of england pension margin calls
>munnkeyp*x
>railway strike is coming
>we're already in a recession btw
>actually the recession is soon and inevitable
>inflation is not coming down
>inflation never comes down when rates arent above it
>consumer credit card debt is exploding
>trillions of derivatives on banks balance sheet
>ftx contagion
>eggs bro
>dollar strength
>yuan for oil
>gold for oil
>tech layoffs are just the beginning
>earnings are too high mumu
>there's no liquidity
>the yield curve is inverted that means its over btw
>just wait till 2023 that's when we really plunge
>housing will collapse any day now
>the market will too

all that for a measly -15% down

>>53441539
I always owe every year so I do my taxes and find out how much I owe, then never file. Once the IRS hits me up the first time I ignore them. I wait until the point where they threaten to garnish my wages, then I set a payment plan up and stretch it out for as long as possible. The interest they charge is negligible and I enjoy giving those thieves the runaround.

taxes? never heard of her

>>53440080
Are you invested into 2640.TYO?

>>53440509
nigger water

>>53439860
>Do option
>Have performance on par with the market
Might as well not

>>53441417
>Ah the old apartment, I remember it fondly
it was a dump

>>53439875
Would it eb better to get normal share 005930 or preferred share 005935 for Samsung?

>>53441599
Do you really?

>>53441661
Yeah, the owner of the building was a bit of a slum lord but it was comfy. I still remember having to put a towel under the front door because there was about a 2" gap on the bottom of the door that would just let snow blow in if it wasn't covered kek. It was also absurdly priced at $900 a month.

>>53440413
>what you zoomers dont understand is that 5% or more interest rate is actually the norm, the last decade was the anomaly not the norm
Higher grow was the norm. It's no longer the case in the past 30 years with a lot of new labor in the world in CIS countries and China. Development spread across the world instead of concentrating in developed countries.

>>53439874
A Pfizer employee admitting on video to mutating SARS COV2 viruses is politicizd? Oh yes, I forgot, Democrats love greedy, corrupt, mega billion dollar corporations now

>>53441740
>ah yes, I forgot, Democrats love greedy, corrupt, mega billion dollar corporations now

As long as they support trannies and race riots, yes.

FUCK, my ribs hurt so bad bros. How do I profit from this?

>Futures

>>53441785
You took the vax didn't you, RIP

>>53441750
Yes, anything and everything that helps divide, conquer, enslave, and depopulate the non elite people, the 'stakeholder' (as Klaus Schwab calls them) corporations will support it. Trannies are just useful idiots, as they call them, and the trannies don't care that any of our offspring that may survive will be completely enslaved in the future, as trannies have no offspring or future

>>53441136
fags at work are starting to view as god tho, i don't like the feels

>missed out on generational bottom of tencent and alibaba
how do i cope?

Real men pick individual stocks.

>>53441808
based Bronn
gotta give it up to Yellowstone for bringing the fooker back

Going all in on calls tomorrow open if GDP is good, time to eat good for the next couple of years

>>53441853
BABA is going to 0 because they're not even real shares. Libtards think it will be easy to transfer them to HK shares but they're going to get fucked over and left with nothing.

>>53441829
Everything the WEF proposes is so they can install the shittiest parts from all the governmental systems of the world
It's the reason they'll make really basic bitch criticisms of capitalism on their site like controlling greed and power without a hint of fucking irony

>>53441894
yeah but why does that matter if i sell within 3 months before china rugs stockholders

>>53441853
Timing the bottom is hard

>>53441924
i bought china ETF at the bottom but not alibaba or tencent cause i wasnt familiar enough at the time

>>53441903
>Bro just time the top on a ticking bomb
Some retards can't be helped.

>>53441898
Or that Klaus denies having any political influence despite the fact he hand picked Trudeau to completely destroy Canada. Anyone that openly supports the WEF is a braindead retard

>>53441942
Kill equality believers. This is financial advice

>>53441750
The left didnt wait for wokism in order to support the merchants. Bill Clinton pushed for China to be the mass producers and buyers of the american debt for instance. And now they replace China with india.

The merchants have been creating the fake dichotomy left-right since the first day they took power after killing the french and russian monarchies.

>>53441987
Keep in mind that Bill Clinton at one point had a plan to wipe out the national debt. Things are worse then ever imaginable when you consider how terrible politicians in 2023 are by comparison. Politicians in the 90's at least pretended they cared about the american people

>>53441824
no like literally my ribs

>>53439875
I eant to have some cash lying around when opportunities crop up and the stars align

Alright it's late night /smg/. It's time to confess your dark secrets. I'll go first. I sometimes get drunk and slow dance with my scoopsies mannequin to elvis songs. Heres one of my favorites.

https://youtu.be/ixbcvKCl4Jc

>>53439902
More like

>>53439809
one word ... JEPI

>>53442141
>everything up 20% in a month
>jepi left in the dust
that's why u dont do covered calls.

the dax is hitting its highest point since 1 year ago

9th beat in a row. Wants to increase the divy. Great guidance

12 years the same trend.

Natty gas homies...
Everyone makes money and we loose everything

>>53442180
when BOIL goes back to $140 we'll be the ones laughing

>>53442192
That'd be a helluva reverse split

>>53442096
>266 KB
>Alright it's late night /smg/. It's time to confess your dark secrets
I strongly dislike most people and choose not to have friends or relationships any more. People at work think I'm completely normal. But some of you /smg/ anons are cool.

>>53442180
what part of 2.5$ being average price do you not understand you retarded ape
if you buy natgas above 2.5$ you are buying a high and should expect it to more likely go down not up

>>53442213
My public persona and who I am behind closed doors are something that nightmares are made of. I'm lucky that i'm not interested in causing harm to other people. Even if I was a serial killer I would never harm anyone that posts here.

>>53442180
Congrats to the KOLD buyers at 6.

DRIP/KOLD anon here. Haven't been on this shithhole in a while all I've done is buy TMF calls and JEPI for the last month. Fucking government larp about banning gas stoves... all seems fake and gay to manipulate natural gas prices to fuck Russia. I started buying BOIL today.

Still short Bumble and America in general. Short Robolox for free money again.

>>53442231
>6
I shilled it hard at 10 and people called me gay. Really the only thing holding me back is not going in harder on the slam dunk plays

>>53442192
I average down every few days but my money is crumbling.
5k in at 13 bucks right now.

>>53442300
Dude literally just wait for anything to happen and it will be back at 20... I don't understand why you faggots paper handed commodity cycles. 13 cost basis isn't bad at all considering faggots here were shilling it at like 40 (retards buying the top, line go up so line go up)

>>53441647
No.

>>53442266
I wouldn't have listened to you at 10 but I would have at 8. I've only gotten back into trading this year though. Needed to calm down after my shitty 2022

>>53442234
I saw RBLX was hiring 300K+ engineer roles. I applied for a job pre IPO but got rejected due to not knowing scala. Kinda want to apply there now.

>>53442343
Declining revenue, declining user base, shit product. No clue why this was shillef so hard other than "the hekkin metaverse" which in general is just a retard clickbait marketing term for shit that's been around for 30 years

>>53442336
It hit 10 around Thanksgiving when I shilled it. The 52 week low was 9 I don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Natty gas was up so much return to mean was inevitable. Same thesis as my DRIP play

>>53442384
My bad I was talking about Nat Gas prices instead of KOLD's share price. Great play though man

>>53442405
Yeah man you seem new. I shilled gold for a year and no one listened... I shorted carvana all the way down.. roblox... 90% of smg just donates their cash to jews on daily lottery tickets or boggle head boomers

>>53442429
Kold*

But I also shorted jnug all the way down

>>53439911
Read his book.
Choose a number between 25 and 75 and put that percentage into a bond etf like tlt.

Then put the rest in spy. If you are really excited about the prospect of reading very boring balance sheets, income statements and cash flow statements and then making excel spreadsheets, then take 10% of the stock money and use the stock filters for assets with an adequate margin of safety. Then read some annual reports to double check if leadership is A incompetent or B trying to fuck you. The way you determine this is in his fucking book. If the stock is adequately protected with a bargain price against its intrinsic value, do not spend more than 3.3% of your portfolio on any individual stock selection.

It is important to note that stock selections are ill advised and not worth anything close to the effort. Investing in spy and blv and just learning useful skills to get a good job or better yet start a business. It is genuinely the best use of your time and energy by a longshot.

To invest like Graham you have to like boring financial shit, and spurn gambling runs. He also does not talk much at all about shit like options or shorting.

Shilled PBR within 20 cents of the bottom and you guys called me a nigger.. I've transcended smg.. you guys offer nothing and only shit on my good plays.. not a single faggot here has shilled anything worth a fuck for months and I spilled golden tickets time and time again

>>53442096
I've never had sex. Im of the opinion im at worst average in most aspects of my life that ought to matter but the fact remains, no woman has ever been attracted to me.

>>53442456
I'm thinking of going all in on BOIL desu senpai

>>53442444
Tmf and jepi > spy and tlt

I don't even look at any of that gay nerd shit

>>53442458
I'm sure it's not that bad.

>>53442456
what is your next plan then oh wise one

>>53442490
Can you read nigger?

>>53442490
I've already told you nigger... tmf (you are kinda late but it's okay) and jepi, short shit tech and maybe stack up some QLD if there is an "ahhhhhhh" crash to lows

I stopped using this site because of faggots like you... everyone here loses money and if anyone has a good idea they just shit on it

>>53442055
>Bill Clinton at one point had a plan to wipe out the national debt
You're repeating an offshoot lie, the primary lie being that Clinton had a budget surplus one year, ya bitch.

>>53442481
>a 3x daily leveraged etf on treasury bonds
That’s retarded
>an etf about writing options against corporate convertibles
That’s not retarded but it is a very complicated active management strategy. It sounds significantly better than writing and handling options contracts yourself though.

>>53442507
>TMF
>JEPI
Suddenly those Robinhood screenshots make sense

>>53442568
See you in a year nigger

>>53442563
Rates near peak. Bonds go up. Simple as. JEPI is a boggle heads dream. It's just sp500 that pays me even if it shits the bed

A few days ago bulls were saying that everybody is bearish therefore it's bullish. Now everything is bullish and talking of a short squeeze, recession expectations being priced out. What do the contrarian bulls say now?

>>53442507
Where is this bullishness on 20+ year treasury notes from?
Jepi writing options against convertibles is an interesting idea. It sounds efficient in a moderately paced bull market with overpriced volatility.

What have you thought in regards to this strategy that made you want to pursue it?

>>53442507
jan tmf look like spxl me no think you out perform

>>53442594
*Now everyone is bullish

>>53442577
Just remember, you'll get dumped on February 1st, May 3rd, August 2nd, then, if you're still bagholding at that point, when they strike the debt ceiling deal.

>>53442606
ill let you in on a little known secret of the trade. there are those who see all of this like a chess game, sword fight and all. then there are those who see is as a one wolf remaining kind of world. the one wolf learns from himself and other dead wolves. the ones who see it as a chess game require another at all times. even if the two hate one another, they know they require one another to survive.

>>53442577
So you're calling the top on long term treasury bond market?

> JEPI is a boggle heads dream. It's just sp500 that pays me even if it shits the bed
It is definitely not that. It’s buying convertibles, and makes money by writing calls against them. Sounds like a great way to sell overpriced volatility and also get exposure to corporate bonds. But the payouts sound really complicated with products i do not understand at all.

>>53440323
I can't imagine not having 100% digital tax services where it's literally so easy to fill in taxes a toddler could do it, so perfect for me

>>53442577
>It's just sp500 that pays me even if it shits the bed
Fund managers said they are targeting 7% CAGR long term.

>>53442577
it still has downside risk, the problem is the upside it stifles might not cover it. it was a good play for the past year but I would have sold it in october and shifted to the raped industries instead.

>>53442577
I think Jepi is interesting. It’s a fund that is made of corporate bonds and calendar spreads on call options. I’m not sure i could feel comfortable knowing so little about the operations employed though.

im going fuckin crazy living in this shithole small town.

>>53442216
Two weeks ago you said the exact same thing but said $3.50

dax is moving a bit,

>>53442609
What are those dates?

wtf will the algos do?

>>53442702
i am long, taarget is +40 points

>>53442712
I would ask the Clandestine Trading Services Desk but I don't have their new number or the names of the constantly changing shell companies they trade and operate under

That RIO buy wall....

>>53442713
yeah already ended, jsut so much selling

>futas

>>53442840
All i'm seeing is a bunch of grinding up against resistance

Linebros... it was a close one...

/smg/ was once again wrong

>>53442597
Jepi is God. Worst case scenario it underperforms in a bull (no time soon) its sp500 paying me to hold it.

>>53442599
I don't put all my eggs in any one basket sirs but tmf looking saucy

>>53442606
Nah I'm still bear 400 resistance is sticky tho

>>53442609
Blah blah blah... first interest rate cut tmf is a 3x

>>53442630
Jepi isn't as mythical as you think it is and yeah bonds are near bottom (probably already did in October)

>>53442651
Ohhh noooo I only get 7% +10%divvy per year ahhhh

>>53442913
>Nah I'm still bear 400 resistance is sticky tho
Looking on Twitter everybody is boolleesh though, and I'm not talking about ETH retards, just regular Fintwitards.

New line just dropped. Don't question my TAstrology, the lines have spoken.

>>53442917
I think it's a decent time to short the rebound on tech shit (I named roblox specifically but also maybe labu or soxl) definitely think it's more likely line go down than up but I'm like a flaccid semi bear right now at best

>>53442924
Tech crap has massively overperformed this month. It can't keep getting away with this.

>>53442931
Nice bear trap

>>53443000
In other words nice tech tranny trap.

>>53442456
yet you keep coming back

What the f is happening to the banking industry in Hong Kong in the past two years.
We have a bank operated by PingAn Insurance, a bank operated by ZhongAn Insurance, a bank operated by Ants Group, a bank operated by BABA, a bank operated by JD, a bank operated by Tencent, a bank operated by Xiaomi, and a bank operated by CTRP

The first few are more or less understanable but what do JD, Xiaomi, CTRP have to do with banking

>>53443020
What did ge have to do with banking in 2006?

gm coffee bros

>>53443020
>hong kong
anon it's the chinksect just increasing their reign over the city; reminder a chinese company isn't just a chinese company, it's the ccp itself

KOLD BARONS i think the TOP is IN.
I just went long on natural gas with a x5 leverage.

>>53443032
elo

>>53443032
Half an hour til it's socially acceptable to drink coffee over here.

>>53443054
what time's that? i have coffee at 4am a lot of the time when i get up for film productions

Yields...

also nat gas is 2.90ish
lol
lmoa

>>53443065
5am sharp. Coffee machine is super noisy so I always wait until my roommate's alarm goes off before putting some coffee on.

>>53442886
It's scary that it's handing around like this,usually it's just a wick and then down only from there.Does it have anything to do with the pivot hopium?When do they even expect that to happen?

>>53443084
>my roommate
ahh that's shit, i had roommates once and it was hell, never did it again, made sure i got my own place

>>53443093
They think that 25 bepis for FOMC next week is bullish and that there won't be a recession after all. What they don't consider is that it's 25 bepis + Powell waging his finger and saying "tut tut, market is too euphoric, higher for longer".

>>53443068
I wanna see that 1m, 3m, 6m get inverted too.
That’d be absolutely fucking bonkers

>>53443068
Natural gas should go to zero soon.
Shale oil production at all time highs. Wells gassier than ever, so much so that they're flaring it away at record levels. Freeport permanently closed. Climate change. Record warm winters.
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if NG trades negative at some point in the next 2 years. It's essentially just waste production. A nuisance.

Robots are the next iPhone.

>>53443016
True. Goodbye

>>53443202

>>53443172
>40% of the energy in the world
>worth 0

Yeah I'm buying more BOIL

>>53443225
youre the kind of retard who bought oil at $30 cause it was WAY TOO CHEAP during covid and then it went negative LMAO

>>53443225
Hmm I think I'll buy at $3.50

i don't get why people are pricing in rate cuts. The economy seems to be doing fine and inflation still isn't completely controlled.

Oh baby. What do I add to the Portfolio today.

>>53443288
>economy
Never heard of it, what's the ticker ?

Why would anyone stock natural gas right now when it is public knowledge that European countries overstocked LNG for the winter, leaving excessive amount in their storage after the winter going away

>>53443288
They hear JP say 'higher for longer' and it goes right out the other ear.

>>53443302
more meta

>>53443302
1481 Tokyo

>>53443315
Just like the janny you will never be a woman

>HAHAHAH WHAT RETARS BUYS THINGS WHEN THEY ARE CHEAP

>>53443225
To be more specific, I meant that natural gas in the US is worth approximately zero.
Countries that import will continue to pay import costs. It's not that natural gas is useless, it's that we produce more than we need domestically, and a lot of that production comes as a byproduct. When the wells were shut-in due to the temporary post-covid oil surplus that brought WTI contracts negative, one side effect was the temporary appearance that natural gas production was back in balance.
The best way to play this is short companies like RRC and SWN.

USA stock market shut so I put about £5 into 888 (gambling), £2 into BAE and £3 more into barclays. I hate gambling so I dont know why im backing a gambling company. Unethical.

>>53443316
seems at the very least he'd just hold them at near this level while things cool.

>>53443366
Careful. Pretty soon you'll be in 3 figure hell.

>>53443342

>>53443380
now THAT's a man

>>53443417
I don't like fat girls. She was a nice lady

>>53443376
Excited to hit 3 figures. I'll probably do it today just to hit the milestone. I cant really afford to input £20 a day currently but I can sustain it for a bit. It is the start after all I need to be sending money in

>>53443446
>I cant really afford to input £20 a day currently
the pain of being a bong

>>53439809
5-10% yearlydividends is comfy.

>>53443465
comfy, but also irrelevant.

>>53443446
>he's long only
>going into FOMC
uh oh

Did they drill in through the floor?c

>>53440547
What if he had Tesla puts?or maybe didn't do the opposite of biz?

>>53443517
it's completely unrelated, new yorkers are always throwing themselves from buildings

we need to shoot the bears. they are causing too much damage all over the world

>90 minutes until... something...

>>53443577
Mumus are the reason for Jerome's bepis growing ever larger

bobros.....

What's stopping us from wiping the national debt clean? I mean really? We live in fiat currency now where the skies the limit. Why not just make 10,000 now be 100. Just move the decimal over a couple of times and start again from there. I mean the concept is similar to moving an hour a head or behind every year so why can't we all just believe that money can do that as well as our sense of time?

>>53443534
True, it's a tradition.

>>53443617
Be patient >>53442712

Just be like me. Make money through other means and buy stocks for long term investment. Day trading appears to be a scam from what I've seen on this board. people are trying to compete with titans. It seems to me that the whole chart reading thing is an illusion and people are trying to infer future knowledge by drawing arbitrary lines when the real winners are the players at the top who have the influence and spending power to make the candles go up or down. People here are basically looking for breadcrumbs trying to guess what the big dogs are doing and without standing at the summit yourself you are sort of guessing, looking up with squinted eyes, looking for even a movement so that you can act accordingly. the main knowledge is obfuscated and its largely a guessing game. Ergo, gambling.

>>53443638
>“I don’t want anyone in or out of my family to see any part of me,” the note read. “Could you destroy my body by cremation? I beg of you and my family — don’t have any service for me or remembrance for me."
>ends up remembered almost a century later with a photograph of her dead
pretty depressing desu

>>53443642
stocks are legit but only the dividend paying ones. the rest are indeed a form of gambling since you are buying something and hoping that the value goes in the right direction.
they literally warn you that past performance means nothing but everyone looks at some bullshit alpha delta nerd stuff and thinks they can 100% guess the correct direction with that shit

should i double down on my tsla short?

>>53443642
Idk I'm a waggie that worked up from short term trading and some lucky breaks. I think if your goal is just make money even if it's just a little you will eventually have a nice stack. I just pray my taxes aren't fucked by a wash sale I didn't realize I had because I don't want to report every single trade

>>53443684
Sure, but prepare to triple down when it hits $200

I sold my long position on nasdaq at the local bottom

>>53443724
I bought BOIL yesterday

TSLA

>>53443810
>99% of car manufacturing equity
>less than 1% of all cars produced
Reality is going to hit baggies so hard

Sigh July can't get here quick enough. Another pay raise beckons. Got most of the "Shat Happens" things for this year done with now so pretty much just smooth doings the rest of the year.

>>53443838
Post positions you stupid boomer

uranium

>>53443849
That pic is his positions

>>53440803

I was trying to ask questions to stump it. It was pretty tough. And then I started asking questions about sensitive topics and it started to self censor. Sucks they limited it.

>>53440803
it's not that good yet. the information is really basic and if you ask it anything that is slightly niche it will give cookie cutter responses. might be crazy in a few years though

Well my short calls are now in the money. Not sure if I should replace them with long puts for the inevitable pullback, or just capitulate and buy the January 27th 404c

>>53442234

Teachers are legit glorified babysitters. Imagine going to college for 4 years just to watch Jamal’s sons for 10+ hours a day.

Are we in a bull trap or a bear trap? I can’t tell anymore. Is everything gonna close like +2% today? Looks like it might squeeze

Who is baking

>>53443990
you're in a deadcat as capital flows back into small caps

>>53443997
I will

>>53443990
We're in both. Bull trap for general equities that might not play out for another 2 months. Bear trap for energy/metals/commodities related stocks.

Everyone is expecting a 25bps hike on Feb. 1st. Fed might deliver on expectations here, but what no one will expect is that they'll start panic hiking 50bps in March because China reopening will drive oil above $100. General equities will crash, commodities will continue to soar. Gold market is pricing this in right now.

>>53444022
Interesting. So what does this mean for my call credit spreads expiring 2/3? Should I just jump into calls for a little longer? I made a lot of money shorting last week, bought some ski tickets and booked some hotels, then lost all my gains and more during this last pump. So now I really need to make money by next week

MSFT gods….it’s gonna be a good day
Good morning to you and yours :)

>>53444048
When you buy stuff with your gains, you're supposed to cash out those gains and stop playing with them. Otherwise you're creating hidden leverage.

>>53444048
PCE numbers are later today. This will tell us the likelihood of a 25bps or 50bps hike on Feb. 1st. If we get a 25bps hike, general equities will probably see a nice bounce and something of a rally into Feb and Mar. SPX has put in an inverse head and shoulders, so the technical are there. Plus most of retail is ultra bearish after big funds and talking heads have been signalling a recession for months on end, so the contrarian move is to be prepared to go long. But it won't last, because of the oil price, remember that Biden hasn't even refilled the SPR yet. Inflation will come roaring back on the supply side and Fed will come out with more hikes and raising fed funds rate target to like 6-7%. Also consider that ECB is planning two more 50bps hikes at their next two meetings, so that puts pressure on the dollar and DXY, which Powell doesn't like when it comes to fighting inflation.

>>53444104
>Plus most of retail is ultra bearish after big funds and talking heads have been signalling a recession for months on end, so the contrarian move is to be prepared to go long
what?

>>53444104
The problem is that core inflation continues to rise despite the the interest rate rising. If the fed plays pussy foot with hiking we'll just get both inflation and a stagnant economy aka stagflation

>>53444120
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/with-a-possible-recession-looming-heres-how-to-decide-if-you-should-to-go-back-to-school/ar-AA16JSRv
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/23/what-a-recession-would-mean-for-your-investments.html
etc. etc.

One day the stock market will go down and never go up again

>>53444120
Literally every normie I know is talking about another covid level overnight crash coming that they’re sidelined waiting to buy lol

>>53444142
Funny enough the bogleheads are making bank because they refuse to not buy

>>53444138
But it is not this day

>>53444127
We'll see. If PCE is on target, they might do only 25bps to be data driven and deliver on expectations. CNBC will come out with headlines like "one and now done." Money will flow. China hasn't fully opened yet, so inflation numbers or reflecting this, but it will relatively soon. Especially if oil goes to like $110-$120.

10 minutes until...

>>53444138
On that day money wont matter anyway so in the end bulls get the last laugh

>muh retail
Retail is bearish because they're living credit card to credit card thanks to inflation and don't even have any money to invest in the first place lol

>>53444142
thats the tough part. everyone is bearish but unless the fed is actually bluffing then how could stocks even rally? higher rates mean that p/e has to go down so unless you wanna fight the fed, you have to short. that being said, im short and losing money

>>53444165
Fed doesn’t have to be bluffing. Rate hikes as priced in as long as Jpow doesn’t go rogue

>>53444165
>>53444176
Yep, exactly. A 25bps hike is priced in. A 50bps hike isn't.

>>53444158
isnt that always how it goes? no one actually has any money to invest at the bottom

>>53444120
Bulltards will always claim they are the minority despite retail being overwhelmingly bullish.

>>53443199
>>53443199
>>53443199
baked

baking

posting in the last smg

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

i work at a bank and my manager has been saying wait till 2024 thats when they'll cut and things will start to recover. I think hes the ultimate normie establishment sentiment guage. i think thats the general consensus, also another one of my coworkers thinks there will be "another leg down" that what people were saying about BTC and we saw how that ended

>>53444234
stop noticing things goy

>>53444196
Fuck off

>>53444240
The recession and leg down will happen in 2024, and these normie shmucks will be caught off guard by the mini rallies and side-ways volatility.

>GDP Growth Rate QoQ Adv Q4 2.9% 3.2% 2.6% 2.7%
Good news is bad news, 26 bepis hike incoming

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT , DID YOU SEE GUYS?

>>53444255
At least he's not going on a multi thread DRS rant today

>PCE Prices QoQ Adv Q4 3.2% 4.3% 3.1%
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA INFLATION IS BACK

>>53444259
>>53444276
chances of 0 bepis rape hike just went up
strange

>>53444196
Actually took the bait.
I got HOOKED.
Cunt.

One /smg/ in the catlog
while the rest is flooded with a new batch of ponzi shills
Its funny how easy it is to spot new jannies giving their shitcord and twitter buddies green light while perma banning the old shills.

Wondering how long the new janny will make it before getting doxxed an swatted

>>53444276
Bad news is good news

+3% day

https://boards.4channel.org/biz/thread/53444302https://boards.4channel.org/biz/thread/5344430253444302

>>53444300
Except when it comes to inflation.

They shaked me out

>>53444302
>>53444302
>>53444302
>>53444302

>>53444302
>>53444302
>>53444302

>>53444318
noooooo it didn't have to be like this, this could have been the last one why must the suffering continue