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it makes perfect sense
are you okay anon

>>53374387
Then answer the question Rajeesh

>>53374376
Crypto wasn't priced into the inflation rates. That's happening now.

>>53374376
>Crypto market begins to massively pump
To be fair, zoom out. We got a +20% after a -75% drop of the flaship asset of the space, BTC.
As long as the volume doesn't go to zero, it won't drop 97%. So the +20% isn't much, really. Could crash back to 16k any week now just as well.

>>53374376
>massively pump
It's just a bump. This has been happening multiple times all the way down from the top and it will drop even further.

people during 09 where thinking US will collapse to zer0, and it was the bottom of bear market for SPX

yeah, it's s scam pump

Why do normies think Bitcoin is gonna follow their boomer markets? Lol Bitcoin is literally the safe haven away from the mainstream BS. If you think any differently you are a normalfag.

>record high inflation
inflation is declining
>housing market about to crash
nothing close to what happened in 2008, also new laws create to prevent it
>stock market getting hit hard
happen a year ago
>boomer Politicians enacting crypto regulation laws
that do nothing
>Crypto market begins to massively pump
again it's been an entire year

>>53374376

Don't worry not enough new money is available to sustain this pump. bulls are delusional

>>53374403

>>53374400
I already did and my family has probably been on this continent longer than yours

>>53374441
>bulls are delusional
They're not delusional but a lot of people on this board are suffering vom ADHD / gambling addiction. They don't have the ability to think long term and strategically. Every green candle makes them euphoric and ignore reality, just like gamblers in front of a slot machine. All these blinks and sounds make them ignore reality.

>>53374376
They can do nothing do crypto (bitcoin at least) so it's not correlated, the old system isn't needed anymore

they caused all those problems with crashing markets and now they solve them with pumping markets. it really is that simple.

>>53374376
You forgot the most important two factors, one of which are forthcoming.

1.) The entire system is fraudulent.
2.) Bailouts are inevitable.

>>53374376
>institutional money dumping in
>everyone else FOMOing in after it

>>53374376
here let me help you understand

the fact that the existence of all of those things you listed has become so widespread/pervasive that even a normalshit NPC like you are parroting it on /biz/ means that the bearish narrative has reached its peak. No one cares. It's priced in. If it's a fact that even a retard like you are aware of, it's priced in.

>>53374376 (OP)
>institutional money dumping in
>short liquidations, pump it to next level.
>everyone else then FOMOing
>more short liquidations

>>53374439
>inflation is declining
Uh-huh.

>>53374376
> record high inflation
Meaning the dollar is implicitly going down
>housing market about to crash
in 2 more weeks?
>stock market getting hit hard
Companies generate revenue in dollars
>boomer Politicians enacting crypto regulation laws
Irrelevant and probably a nothingburger
>Crypto market begins to massively pump
Like I said, dollar is going down

>>53374376
Everyone is just guessing. I'm surprised you nerd haven't located the wallets behind this inorganic pump.

>>53374439
>inflation is declining
slowing, prices arent going back down tho
>nothing close to what happened in 2008
it will be worse
>happen a year ago
think 1929
>that do nothing
just wait to XRP gets labeled a security

>>53374376
6% infation
>RECORD HIGH!
slump in home sales
>ABOUT TO CRASH!
stock market rallies after trading sideways for months
>HIT HARD!
crypto up 8%
>MASSIVE PUMP!

I hate when people exaggerate to make everything seem a HUNDRED THOUSAND times worse than it actually is.

>>53374648
go annualize the last 4-5 month over month prints and they come out to something like 4% or less

>>53374376
It's called volatility. It happens when the majority of investors can't figure out where to park their money without losing more of it. So random things will pump, dump, or just implode all together. No one has a clue anymore, same thing happened through every major economic decline in world history. Might get to a point where all assets that aren't backed by something physical in the real world become worthless for a while. The entire global order is changing, will change. By the 2030s, financial dominance will be in the east part of the globe. Right now, we're right at the beginning of this years long shift. Best to be prepared.

>>53374376
its almost like kikes know how to bait goyim into giving them their money before dumping bags on them

>>53374436
because it was positively correlated with the stock market during the 2021 bull run and after as institutional money flowed into the space and began treating it like a tech stock? maybe you're just fucking stupid. boomer

>>53374376
The money has to go somewhere. It’s not going into all those other things

>>53374376
I'm not surprise as crypto is on a massive pump and it won't be bad if Privacy is considered.

>>53374688
Nu/biz/ can’t think that way

>>53374376
Post webm plz

>>53374482
>2.) Bailouts are inevitable
in your dreams goy. i already explained what the kikes have planned on /pol/ im tired of schooling and warning everyone sometimes i think its easier if you faggots just suffer massive losses but knowing how retarded you are you still wont put 2 and 2 together to figure out what the kikes are doing.

>tldr: US gov (and therefore all euro and south america govs because they copy everything we do) will bailout the companies of the upcoming financial crisis with your bank account money and cut you off from withdrawing it, and in exchange maybe give you stock shares of the bank but probably nothing at all and you will be happy.

source: i pay attention and they are so incredibly arrogant they literally laugh about it during a recorded meeting

5 minute summary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0H4IwnLjQo

very good commentary and synopsis summary only 30 mins:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NBhbOZ39W0 [Embed]


copy of the original FDIC meeting video 3 hours long:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PtULsOtI2o&t=0s [Embed]
this is the most happening of happenings and you fuckers havent posted about it even once. ill watch this thread fail with 2 replies while you keep responding to worthless slide threads but at least i tried to get the word out.

remove your money from the bank.

>>53374439
Unironically zoom out

>>53374376
Need liquidity for the crash

>>53374881
No way that article is real. Not even in Rapeden

>>53374476
>It literally is a Bogdanoff poomp it doomp it therapy meme

The older I get the more I realize how bat shit insane the world really is

>>53374688
Nu/biz/ likes to present hindsight as wisdom that they've always had

>>53374482
>2.) Bailouts are inevitable.
nope nope nope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU-Tz4vh8uE


>>53375047
>>53375047
>No way that article is real. Not even in Rapeden
LOL
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5495915/Sweden-vows-ban-religious-schools-tackle-segregation.html

>>53375121
>>53375013
>multiple bailouts protecting the fraudulent system already
>"dude it won't happen ha ha just don't worry"
k

>>53374439
>inflation is declining
only in the same way that there is less flames in a building that has burned a while. Still rampant inflation even though less of it.

>>53374439
>>boomer Politicians enacting crypto regulation laws
>that do nothing
China bans bitcoin around 5-6 times every bullrun and every time the price drops a bit so it DOES have an effect even though there is no actual real-life effect.

>>53374645
so whales are wiping out shorts in order to prepare the way for a massive crash?

>>53375650
>cant read english
>just quotes and greentexts random shit and responds with "k"

k

>>53374376
Politics can only regulate KYC. CRYPTO WILL NEVER HAVE THE REGULATIONS STOCKS HAVE NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY SEETHE

>>53375121
Incredible. Does this mean that when Swedes become a minority in their own country, they’ll be protected in the same way?

>>53375797
I'm actually starting to notice a pattern here

>>53374376
Inflation is dollars jot being worth as much as it was-Crypto going up means its value is fixed while dollars are worth less.

>>53374376
its because btc isnt a decentralized as you think
market is mostly controlled by a few whales,hence all the sudden pumps/dumps

>>53377431
also yeah dollar has been weaker this year
exchange rate of gold also indicates that

>>53374436
Other assets inflate at the same time. Wow, really?

>>53377500
isnt as*

>>53374376
Do you only follow crypto or something? The stock market has been pumping since the new year, dude. Not the kind of pumps crypto gets, but it’s relative. All markets are going up. The economy doesn’t correlate anymore. It hasn’t for years.
>yeah but it will
Maybe. But not yet. Just follow the momentum and set a trailing stop instead of waiting for the “big one” or whatever. The world doesn’t make sense.

>>53374376
did it make sense that everything rallies in a global scamdemic.

after it gets to 40k, twitter, crypto YouTube and cnbc will think of the right narrative as to why this happened

>>53377565
this is explained correctly

>>53374645
As this anon said. Big money knows 2023 will suck so they are making money in the greenest pastures available, crypto. They are making it look like a 2018 style recovery and rekking shorts. Retail and lesser institutions will be left holding the bag as always and the big players will have secured their annual bonuses and spend 2023 fucking off on some beach.

Always do the opposite of what normies think.

OP is dumb money and will FOMO in at the top

>>53374430
But by whom? Is it lots of whale transactions or retail poorfaggies like me? I added a bit at 16k a few months back but that's it.

>>53374376
Think about it.
remember at the top. when everyone said BUYBUYBUY
well now that theyre down 80% they've been DCAing in to get their entry price to a profitable level sometime this century.
if they dont the whole thing goes down.

>>53374645
This makes sense.

>>53374376

I was and am a nu-bizlet who got into crypto in 2021. During that first mega bull market (where I made no money due to inexperience and retardation) I also thought macro factors mattered. I thought technology mattered. None of them actually matter. The only thing that matters is sentiment. The most important sentiment is normie sentiment because they're always wrong and you have to do the opposite of what they do. There are occasional normie sentiment threads on where where posters claim that normies are buying back in, but this is nonsense and I think those posters don't actually know any normies. Normies FORGET crypto even exists in bear markets, they have no concept of it. They only start buying in about halfway to 3/4ths of the way up. They don't move markets because they don't have the money to, so disregard boboposters asking "who's going to buy in at this point?" Institutions, and they've played retail baggies yet again and it's time to reap the harvest.

>>53376128
i dont know what possesses swedish people to be suicidal but their women are anti native and pro nigger in every way possible in every interview with real swedes that ive seen.

>>53377798
This made me lol

>>53377726
based, you've learned well anon

>>53375927
Lol yeah sure and when the SEC label every alt as a security and then the exchanges are not allowed to sell them anymore, what will you do then?

>>53377726
>>53377947
poorfag neet here please share more wisdom with me, i'll pray for your good health

>>53377726
also something I've been wondering - wouldn't retail baggies get priced out when it's already going up? would make way more sense for them to jump in when it's low and affordable for them with money they don't mind losing

>>53378763

I can't really speak for your situation and how you feel about being neet, but I was neet for years and it really is a good life. I miss it. But, you are selling off in your future for a good life in the present. I had to stop being neet and get a real job, and since I had neeted so long for so hard I ended up working retail. I've been trying for years to get a real job where I can sit at a desk and answer emails, but I can't even do that, even though I've been doing programming for years and have certifications. I can't get hired, so I'm locked into retail wagecucking, and I'm in my 30s. So if you're in your early 20s I would start making moves NOW because the older you get, the harder it is to maneuver. Don't necessarily wagecuck, but if you're a good artisan and you can make handmade goods or something like that, it's something to think about.

>>53378835

Nobody is ever "priced out," you don't have to buy Bitcoin in integer increments, if BTC is at $100k but retail thinks it's going to 1 million they will still make dumb moves like going all in with their savings, taking out loans etc.

>>53374376
I want to punch her stupid face, she's mid, 5/10 at best, and she's just trying to get free food by acting like a slut.

>>53374439
>inflation is declining
yes, we are in deflation right now but eeuu still with debt a lot, also china is on, so the economy is pump

>>53378161
then someone makes a new exchange in another country to skirt the law and fill demand.

>>53374439
>inflation is declining
Do Biden voters really?

>>53374376
>record high inflation
>housing market about to crash
>stock market getting hit hard
>layoffs in every industry
>debt limit reached
>climate change out of control
>House #1 priority is Filegate 3.0

All this, and we're (supposedly) not in a recession.

How much worse does it have to get?

>>53378867
honestly I kind of love it, the freedom is too addictive, though you do feel lonely sometimes and I wonder what could've been if I tried... also my parents hate my guts and are kind of done supporting me lol
sadly I trashed out on rng and was conceived in a thirdly shithole with an economy in shambles so i'll be forced to get into IT or some other slave job to not starve. as long as I get some money to care care of my health and spare some for my hobbies idc, if I get married tho i'll might try a bit harder kek

>if BTC is at $100k but retail thinks it's going to 1 million they will still make dumb moves like going all in with their savings, taking out loans etc.
yeah that makes sense, but if these retail baggies join in late it's all whales and institutions moving the majority of the market? do these people only drive the last quartile of the chart on the way up before it crashes?

>>53374376
nothing ever happens

>>53379055

Yes, that's exactly it. When the smart money needs to cash out, they use the dumb money to do it. This dynamic is well understood and has been playing out since financial markets first became a thing, and the whales and institutions create and manipulate this cycle knowingly.

>>53374376
>another short seller COPE thread

>>53379278
so this is applicable to the stock market and other assets as well? not sure how well regulated crypto markets are but I think this classifies as fraud in boomer stock market right? (not like it matters though heh)

>>53374376
>energy, fuel, food prices still high
>cost of living crisis
>tech companies cutting jobs down
>Celsius, FTX and soon to be Genesis declaring bankruptcy

yet I'm sure the average person is pouring their life savings into crypto

>>53374400
You have to trade the clown world
Midwitbellcurve.jpg
It makes perfect sense,fool

>>53379304

>>53374376
bullish sentiment honestly, BTC 1M EOY, Jasmy $1, Dogecoin $10

>>53378903
>she's mid, 5/10 at best
bro post your gf just so we can have a laff

>>53374700
>slowing, prices arent going back down tho
google truflation, it tracks better than fed CPI, and it tracks daily
>it will be worse
Ton of regulation set up since 2008, no sub prime mortgages being shuffled in, etc
>think 1929
walk us through that one, cause this is midwit
>just wait to XRP gets labeled a security
imagine investing in XRP or thinking it has any effect on anything

>>53379350
Yes, the entire system is fraudulent. That doesn't prevent it from being used for the purpose anon described, it actually helps.

>>53378867
Reach out to temp agencies. They can place you in a desk job easy

>>53378903
She’s perfect

>>53374376
And in the meantime gold and silver do nothing. That's the real outrage of it all.

>>53375013
Shit is so easy to avoid. Just have a maximum of $250000 with any one bank

>>53377569
Yes it made perfect sense as the money supply exploded. More dollars = higher prices. How do you retarda not understand?

>>53374376
Bitcoin was born from the last time this happened in 2008. It is the solution to inflation, corruption and non-stop out of control money printing. Hold on to your hats boyz cuz when it really moves it gonga mune like a mother fucker

>>53374376
Nigga what do you think crypto is about? Its supposed to be a hedge against a broken economy both inflationary and deflationary. The only thing that will crash it is jews that make centralized banks pretending to be crypto. Also, S and p is up too. youre wrong about the stock market.

>>53381256

Thanks anon, it's something I haven't done (been applying for positions directly) so I'm going to give it a shot.

My story with chainlink begins in 2004. Someone told me something on a phone dating Chatline. I feel God will show me a sign when it's time to share my story.

>>53374376
>Trusting your money in Jewish run institutions

>>53374376
It's because of the recent $SBNY and $SI problems. Expect bitcoin and eth to pump like a race horse until it's time for the whales to exit all positions.

>>53374376
Because retarded piece of shit monkeys like you think you're absolute geniuses observing the most obvious, retarded shit so the market surprises you by doing the complete opposite. Kys you scumbag.

>>53374376
I cum violently at the thought of cumming

Inflation being widespread isn't the same thing as inflation being so bad that actually wipes out a big enough portion of the population to make a difference. This didn't happen in a vacuum, it happened after the most insane two years of monetary policy the entire world has ever seen, which was conjured up to literally prevent the global economy from collapsing during a pandemic. My unpopular opinion is that a lot of, if not a majority of, the "inflation" we're seeing is simply businesses taking advantage of consumers expecting higher prices because of inflation. In 2020 and 2021 "supply chain issues" was a valid excuse but now that's a ridiculous reason for prices to remain high.

>>53374376
inflation makes things more expensive

>>53377565
I like this except for the trailing stop - Big Money can see where the stops are and flash dump to stop people out all the time

>>53374461
so why are you here? Seems weird to come to /biz/ and talk about muh gambling. We aren't even in a bull run so you can't use hype as the excuse. This place literally gets 10 pph at night

>>53383575
boredom

>>53374700
>1929!!!!!!

>>53374376
>he thinks the crypto market isn't artificial and so manipulated that it makes the stock market look like kids play
Kek

>>53374482
>Bail-ins are inevitable.
ftfy

>>53374376
It's time Privacy projects are considered for seamless transactions without revealing any information about the transferred assets & amounts or identities involved from prying eyes.

>>53381270
shes an ugly pig slut

>>53374376
Who cares? as long as my folio is up, I am happy and you are happy. I cant wait for my lowcaps ORE and ALBT to do the seasonal 100x so I can buy a house and marry a pretty wife.

>>53374376
Yes it doesn't make sense but with crypto the adoption is getting better its being accepted as payments across the globe and LuganoPlanB is the 1st big step.

>>53383920
Rather AI will take care of crypto from here on.

>>53374376
Stonks have been pumping since September and shit like the Dow is 8% away from ATH.

>>53384216
The market is having a temporary pump but best to hold on to what we have. Don't sell just hold is my thought.
I am holding tight with my EGLD, UTK, METIS and QRDO bag with high hopes

>>53383969
Stop stressing fren just dyor on Railgun and know peace.

>>53384208
It's just a new narrative. AI and Privacy protocols is important in the crypto space at this time. Got a few privacy projects on my watchlist.

>>53384257
I'll add VRA, ROSE and ORE to the list.

>>53380454
You day dreaming. All these not new the new narrative of web3, AI, metaverse, security and asset management.

>>53374376
Humans are fucking ugly holy shit

>>53378903

>>53374376
it was oversold. this is what they call a correction. accept it