/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>53369937
The economy fell apart faster than the Fed could prove a point about its credibility.
BRRRRR time

>>53369949
>the Fed pivoted in my imagination therefore it's real
How many more FOMC meetings of "higher for longer" will it take until you get it?

>>53369937
Market makers move when they sense the wind changing, which will always be long before official moves.

>>53369971
how long until you get that they can't fix it

>>53369937
jewish manipulation. We'll probably have somewhat bullish PA for Feb until early spring, where there will likely be a god red candle down to $8k when the NDX and S&P make new lows

>>53369971
With every meeting the pivot comes closer
Imagine not frontrunning

>>53369971
The interest rate is still negative we just wanted to know whether they were deluded enough to believe they could go back to like pre-1971 economy or something.
We can't keep this level of debt, it's ridiculous they will print and get rid of it and the asians et al will either swallow the bond loss or dump them sneaky sneaky one of these nights while we sleep

>>53369988
sbf never regained control you retard

>>53369937
Nothing. Patience.

>>53369986
>how long until you get that they can't fix it
They're going to fix the economy by breaking it. That's explicitly their plan
>>53369997
Yeah it is coming closer but it won't happen until the Fed is forced to pivot. Which isn't gonna happen with stocks heading towards ATHs and everyone euphoric.
>>53369999
The Fed will definitely pivot but first the economy has to break. If they just randomly pivoted because they want to send shitcoins to the moon it would destroy their credibility and break the world economy

Line goes up, line goes down. You can’t explain that!

>>53369971
They have two options. Either pivot and hyperinflate or keep raising rates and default on national debt. While both will cause a systemic crash, the former plays out over a longer period and I usually the choice made by dying economies

>>53369988
This is fake dude, no source at all on this

>>53370038
>Either pivot and hyperinflate or keep raising rates and default on national debt
5% rates held for a year will absolutely break the US economy. There is no threat of default within a year's time. The Fed can easily hold rates higher until the economy breaks and then pivot.

>>53370032
they can continue to hike until it breaks if they like we don't need a 'pivot', it can happen just like 2008 where they end up having to dump a bunch of GDP into solving something they should have seen coming.

Greedy bears that never stop shorting in a market that's already seen massive capitulations, mostly

>>53369937
It ain’t dead, this is last pump before next leg down

>>53369971
Most of the mumus you're arguing about this with aren't old enough to remember the GFC. They've never experienced max pain and think that it's already happened.
>my shitcoins went down 87%! According to a chart, that means the Fed has to pump my bags now!
That's literally what we're up against. They want their imaginary money's price line gongo up while the money they actually use to pay their bills, buy food, and pay some whore on OnlyFans erodes.
Mumus are fucked up.

>>53370009
Where did the narrative that he did come from? I only ever see it spouted here

the bear market died ever since mantle went live on testnet, because this means that devs will soon be able to build dapps on a modular layer 2 with low fees and high security

>>53370056
Aren't they currently under threat of defaulting? I mean we all know the debt ceiling will be raised but the 'threat' is there

>>53370084
I realized recently that right now Bobos are the good guys. Mumus are the lunatics that want to sacrifice the world to pump their shitcoins and zombie corporations one last time. Bobo only wants to help fellow anons understand the seriousness of 5% rates held for an extended period.

>>53370124
>Aren't they currently under threat of defaulting?
No, they're not. That's my point, the threat of defaulting is far away (unless some black swan event happens with the debt ceiling). The Fed has more than enough time to hold rates higher for longer to achieve their goal.

>>53370132
Truth. We recognize that the market needs to be culled back to the roots to grow back healthy. They hate us because we try to profit from the process.

>>53370142
I was under the impression that they had runway until like June before risk of default

fuck you /biz/ and 10k promises

>>53370060
big dome jerome mentioned calculating internet usage into a countries GDP back in 2019. this entire thing has been planned for years. crypto (data) and chainlink will save economies

>>53369937
Market Optimism, whatever that fucking means.

>>53369999
checked
>>53370098
checking out