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I refuse to accept that there there is a single real engineer working at any big tech company. Their shit is too low quality and unreliable.
How many billions did they spend on the "metaverse" and they couldn't figure out legs on the avatars?

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>>53369639
IT at a hospital and nobody wants this fucking job. They don't want to fire me and even offered me a raise when I talked about the low pay

>>53369676
Legs are actually very complicated for VR. No platform has implemented them before. By implement I mean actually tracking the position of your legs from the VR headset.
I work on the metaverse adjacent team so i see most of the media coverage as nonsense. It obviously has its problems and could be marketed better, but the vision is compelling to me at least.

>>53369762
VRChat legs work just fine. Meta should’ve just purchased VRChat instead of trying to make their own retarded “amplified” version of it.

>>53369676
I loaded up on META below $90.

It takes a lot of difficult math to be able to determine the position of the guys using what? Reflections of light?

A business moat is wide if you have insanely smart and people in a company solving math problems that the rest of society can't solve.

>>53369827
Vrchat probably doesn't have the program ability / interoperability needed to handle nft's / public blockchains

>>53369639
I wouldn't mind getting laid off, it will finally give me the opportunity to move to Thailand for an extended holiday. I'm too chicken shit to quit my 6 figure cozy job

>>53369689
odd, I work remotely doing IT for a hospital and make 150k a year in the midwest. Very comfy

>>53369639
I'm curious about something. I've heard it said that the big tech companies hire more engineers than they need simply because they want to retain them and keep them from going to any startups and eventually threatening their dominance.
Do you think that's true and if it is, will these layoffs lead to that?

i made a lot of money as a indie video game developer, haven't worked in a decade, still live at home with my parents though because i have mental illness and need the support system

>>53369884
no because the cost of capital is too high at the moment

>>53369891
>MUH MENTAL ILLNESS

>>53369762
>>53369829
Literally retarded. No offense, I'm sure you can't help it.

>>53369927
it's pretty bad, i've been hospitalized over 13 times and recently did a 5month bid in county because of it.

>>53369891
Post game

>>53369849
So spend ten billion dollars adding it to a base game that’s at least good.

>>53369962
it's nothing special, just a clone of a popular game for iOS

Meta is super fucking gay, but a bunch of the higher ups at D*scover Card just got Meta headsets for meetings. Like it or not, some fucking retard believes in this garbage. Unironically bullish on meta.

>>53369639
fucking kek. and all of these faggots have no other skills than looking busy and drinking the kool aid. they are useless to smaller companies who need people to actually work.
on top of that alot of them are heavy spenders being accustomed to making $100k+ per year so they haven't saved much of any

>40,000 homosexual adware engineers, hr roasties, and wfh zoom call pros that make $400k/year for working 3 hours per week
It's really a mystery how we got here

>>53370045
>Heavy spenders
Most of them don't leave the house except to buy mountain dew

>>53369862
what do you do?

>>53369639
annnnnnnnnnnnd Google just announced it is laying off 12,000 workers.

>>53369762
whats wrong with legs just proportionally shrinking with the ground? So what if everyone looks like agent baby legs. Its a feature not a bug.

>>53370057
You don’t get paid based off how hard you work in most jobs, that’s why they always say to work smart when you grow up. I’ve lied and cheated my way from neetdom to six figures and have no regrets. I make myself look busier than I actually am and keep to myself without complaining, that makes me better than most people working by default.

>>53369762
Why don't they just have IMUs that you wear on your knees and ankles so the positions can be tracked? Why does everything have to be done with muh machine vision.

Metaverse should be a protocol, not a product. Like the fediverse.

>>53369639
> engineer at Meta
Who's gonna tell him?

>some of the laid off are trannies who wont be able to afford their estrogen pills anymore

trannybros.... we need those

>>53370235
Exactly. Why do you think they planned this cleansing

>>53370062
Thats where you’re wrong.
They were the main buyers of craft beers, teslas, pelotons, and other overpriced consumerist bullshit.
They are the reasons barcades exist
They are the reasons that Austin’s property values are fucked.
They spent their money on the gayest shit imaginable, always.

>>53369762
if they have controllers that can track your fingers and allow you to literally pick shit up why would legs be hard?

>>53369639
>tfw cozy senior engineer job at Meta

Meta will die in the next 10 years bro.

>Metaverse flopped
>facebook is a boomer graveyard
>whats up is free
>instagram is losing ground to ticktock

>>53370164
See I don't disagree with you but fundamentally outside of 0% interest free funny money world these companies simply cannot function anywhere near how they have in the past. I don't fault any employee for trying less, I do the same.

>>53369857
This. I'm need to semi-make-it before I move to Thailand or maybe Colombia.

>>53370062
Dude they buy shit on amazon and order food on some app like doordash.

White collar americans like to live as if they were the jetsons.

>>53369857
Pussy take control of your life

>>53370329
>Meta will die in the next 10 years bro
it will die when the cunt charges a fee. it'll happen. he is itching for it.

>>53369676
cos the zucc can't even figure out his own legs

>>53370329
The US government is prepping to force the US TikTok to basically spin off into its own separate entity. Repubs have been asking for it since Trump and now that they're eating tech's lunch the big tech behind the Dems are also now foaming at the mouth to get rid of it. Guess who's going to be there to buy the US operations? Zuck is a retard but he's got deep enough pockets to force this to happen and Google already has YouTube and YouTube shorts.
I'm just saying... Ain't no way in hell SNAP or a private equity firm has the bags to buy TikTokUSA.

>>53370431
Oracle is the one winning on this deal. Pay attention retard

I wish I got laid off. A 6 month severance with stock vesting would be around 150k for me for no work.

>>53369639
Comp Sci salaries are going to plummet. Imagine thinking you deserve a doctors salary for copy+pasting from StackOverflow. Glad to see delusional people are losing their lunch and that the bubble is popping. Coding was always a simple task and I imagine the payscale will level out at 100k for a senior same as other science degrees.

>>53370649
>copy+pasting from StackOverflow
You realise only bottom of the barrel webtoddlers do that? I work as an embedded engineer and there is no stack overflow for what I do (so I copy and paste from documentation instead).

>>53370027
>some execs at a small company shelled out $5k for headsets for 50 people
>this is how we make a positive ROI on literal billions of development funding

I hate this board

>>53370649
doctors don't deserve a doctor's salary

>>53369639
>tfw going direct for govt tech
Feels alright

>>53369639
Lots of seniors were let go yesterday, ones with 20 years at the company, what makes you think you are layoff proof? Because you arent, ESPECIALLY at meta lmao

>>53370027
personally, i think zucc is ditching oculus. he won't sell, but he's more focused on whatsapp and IG. methinks META will focus more on this whole open AI thingamajig. It will help IG thots with their profiles with all sorts of weird, fake filter shit then the simps will have to pay extra with AR goggles to get the full IG experience. i mean you can show tits on facebook and IG now, so i'm guessing zucc wants to compete with onlyfans

if you're not stacking up on META stock now, prepare for the REGRETTENING

>>53369762

It's called machine learning. Legs don't completely independent from the rest of your body.

Yeah they should hire real engineers, instead of brainlet-tire econ students who barely understand highschool level math.

>>53370089
He LARPs on internet forums

>>53369676
This, half of this these companies are using decade-old technology that have already been made but for some reason requires tens of thousands of people to maintain. Especially something like twitter.
>>53370235
cheaper than you think

>>53370649
you wouldn't be able to pass a comp sci degree from an ivy league

>>53369827
Vrchat is a gigantic legal liability. If they purchased it theyd have to sterilize it and everyone would leave in disgust. It's really just a matter of time before it gets shut down. It's basically VR Napster. Enjoy it while you can.

>>53370193
Because that's additional hardware, equipment and battery to manage. No one wants to wear additional shit except the most hardcore enthusiasts

>>53369639
check your email

>>53371711
Not true. Zuck is betting hard on VR. Facebook doesn't control its own hardware like Apple, Microsoft and Google does. Meta/Facebook constantly has to play by their rules on their devices. Becoming the dominant VR platform allows their break free from these restrictions.

>>53370329
Literally nothing you said here is true.
>Metaverse flopped
It hasn't
>facebook is a boomer graveyard
This is only the perspective of always online America zoomers. Facebook is still growing and has 3 billion active users each month.
>whats up is free
they make money through WhatsApp for Business and WhatsApp Pay.
>instagram is losing ground to ticktock
Instagram is still thriving in spite of tiktok. The tiktok is just a competitor.

>>53370377
>it will die when the cunt charges a fee. it'll happen. he is itching for it.
Why? Ads are Meta's bread and butter

>>53369639
Funny how people could spin this as a positive

>>53369676
big tech and modern software engineering in general = a career in untangling knots. it's all terrible, no one knows how it works, and everything about it only gets worse. we need a solar flare followed by a plague to hit the reset button on our technological advancements.

>>53369639

>>53373558
>source: uhhh ummm IT'S REAL DATA BECAUSE -- BECAUSE IT JUST IS, OKAY!!!!!

>>53373578
https://interviewing.io/blog/2022-layoffs-engineers-vs-other-departments

>>53369639
wtf did all those people do? write a single line of javascript or even just drink starbucks all day?

>>53373558
>Software engineer 10%
Thanks for proving my point

Are these tech employees or "tech" employees? Because there's a leap and a nigger between a software niggergineer and some fag whose job is to scrum up some agiles.

>>53373558
Yeah that's what I thought, it's all HR whores. Anyone with at least finance proficiency is 'safe' (relatively).

>>53373679
See >>53373558
Also probably

>>53373679
"my department owns the play button"

>>53370338
Cringe

>>53373558
>>53373578
It makes sense because the jobs on the right of the graph actually do things that translate to money whereas the ones on the left don't.
Sales people especially good sales people will always be the last to go.

working for FAANG should unironically be a bannable offense on these boards

Nobody useful is getting laid off, just cutting out all the trash and diversity hires

>>53373918
Kek

>>53373442
wrong
wrong
wrong
wrong

>>53369639

If you're an HR roastie, you're HR toasty

>>53369762
>the vision of the company that pays my bills is compelling to me

Ya don't say

>>53375847
You say that like i couldn't just go somewhere else if i didn't like the product. I actually rejected an offer from Google when i joined Meta.

>>53369639
bullish for btc

>>53373400
nah. zucc has been nonchalant about it lately. he's jumping on the AI train like everybody else. his COO and CPO are the ones still memeing it at forums and shit like their jobs depend on it which theirs probably do at this point lol

>>53373442
I'm from the 3rd world (south america) and facebook is a boomer graveyard here too. No self respecting person under 40 uses it. Aunts use it to send weird tweety pics with an inspirrational quote or something lmao

>>53377031
yeah, that's what millennials said about 8 years and now most of them are on facebook. a lot of millennials have also transitioned from woke teen libshits to trumptards now as well. it's called taking the thirtysomethingspill. it's no longer rebellious for them to hide their "too cool for facebook" snapchat or IG profiles from their parents. i'm also starting to see this with gen z as they're approaching their 30s and want to share their wedding and newborn pics with their parents on fb

>>53369639
>Engineer in S 'n P 500 tech company
>Got a 25% raise last year
Should I be worried bros?

>>53370386
kek

>>53369676
"real engineering" is boilerplate shit for already solved problems

>>53377163
>Gen Z
>having children
Nice larp

>>53377585
i'm from the south it's normal for girls to have 3 kids before they're 21. autistic-looking Gen Z mulatto toddlers with fros are everywhere down here now. i swear sometimes i feel like i'm living in papau new guinea or some shit

>>53377014
Maybe it looks like that from the outside. However we have weekly company-wide meetings with him. He always mentions Metaverse and what's going on within those teams.

>>53377163
>To trumptards
This isn't a thing with millennials.

>>53377937
millennials don't take those paid online surveys. i know this for a fact. only crossword puzzle boomers and gen-x sudoku-committers do

>>53370347
> tfw live penthouse in upscale 2010's high rise in major american city
> order delicious food, amazon, drugs, and young women via touchscreen of my CURRENT YEAR smartphone
> literally never think about the cost of anything
> no debt
> credit card paid in full every month and still net increase month over month
> 2022 was "bad" and has made zero difference in my lifestyle
> tfw looking down on 99% of the world

feels good man

>>53369639
>>53370164
Ok techfags, NEET here, no education.

How do I make it?

>>53377759

Enjoying the Brazilianization of the US I see eh

>>53369639
with remote being the new normal they can't really compete with slavs who are happy to work for $100k/yr as senior engineers. god I'm so glad my parents forced me to learn english when I was a kid
t. slav engineer working for a US company, earning 2x more than the president of my country

>>53379076
you wot m8
big corpos pay senior fullstack devs 2200-2500 euros per month
slavs are happy af with 40k per year, not 100

>>53369762
master of none over here