/biz/ - Business & Finance

why are they making games about chicks with stanky pussys now?

> David Crosby is kill
I'll pop a few beers for him this weekend. Top-tier yacht rock. Goodnight hippie grandpa.

>>53354028
I'll teach your children well.

>>53354027
Because sometimes pussies stink. Life isn't always a fairy tale.

How do I get beautiful women to sit on my ugly face?

What stocks do I short for this feel?

kek

>>53354028
https://youtu.be/aT9EKqXDl68
THREAD THEME

>>53354128

I'll take who is Joe Biden for 1 trillion dollars

>>53354128
The problem is American politics no longer police the mega corps they produced because India and China are 5 times larger, and you just look at the numbers when you chase profits blindly... it's literally your job as ceo, and I think the Costco guy with the hot dog guy understood, but when you get to megacap you bend over backwards for emerging markets.... it's probably too late to put the genie back in the bottle or unopened pandoras box with the AI shit, but it was a fun ballet to watch.

>>53354069
BOIL
t. boil baggie

Some guy on Twitter said to short small caps today

In light of recent market activity I have decided to learn the following songs on bass guitar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R91StiWeSxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k8craCGpgs

>>53354219
Learn this, it's more thematically appropriate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIUAC03YMlA

Banana and Uranium let's go.

we need 10 million immigrants STAT

>>53354231
Uranium Kings............I am thinking that it may in fact....be our turn

>>53354227
>Jamiroqui
Oh god. Stuart Zender and his fucking magical rubber fingers. That one doesn't sound too hard though. I think I will learn it.

Bogleheads win again

I'm about to get severely faded than a ho in this bitch, you feel me?

>>53354277
That song sucks, play Cosmic Girl

>>53354219
you should earbud def a full album playthrough if you've not before. i'd suggest stuff similar to relateds, or Thick as a Brick by Jethro Tull. Definitely some Lood Zoop and Rush once you no longer develop calluses.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnWsRUKGDeo
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBDR8B95jXQ

>>53354283
>They hated him because he told them the truth.

>futures

bros what's going on, why the huge pumps?

>>53354376
i see so huge pump

>>53354397
NO pump huge. just noise.

>>53354376
>huge

WTF IS THIS HUGE PUMP ON NO NEWS FUTURES!!!!
>NO NEWS
HUGE PUMP ON NO NEWS

I DONT EVEN BELIEVE SHIT ANYMORE!

/smg/ lied to me, i wanted to see a big long futa but it's a tiny little one

>OMG WE'RE CRASHING THE ECONOMY IS IN RUIN!
>is like 2 red days max
When we break ATH this year bears might just kill themselved.

>>53354410
nasdaq is almost at +1% already, I'd say that pretty big, at least compared to yesterday's bloodbath

Commodities are looking crazy bullish right now

>>53354667
*laughs in natgas*

My NFLX short bout to liquidate on open :D

>>53354688
Nat gas being the exception, but when it bottoms that will also be a good buying opportunity

>>53354193
>boil
i thought about this at the beginning of the week. thank god i didn't go through with it. boil holders still might make it though, something strange is happening with nat gas.

>>53354703
Shorting NFL-X during the playoffs.... You're as retarded as me.

I shorted CAC , DAX , NASDAQ and pee&poo . Am i gonna MAKE IT?

My NFLX about to liquidate on open

>>53354618
it's up 0.00%, wtf are you looking at?

>>53354848
weird, it was +.70 earlier. nvm, its all dumping hard now.

Is the Micro-Activision deal still going through?.....plz I dont wanna go back to work in the McDonald McMines

>>53354069
AQB

>>53354918
i will now buy your shitstock

>>53354837
I just sold my netflix short as a europoor . I was down 33% on it

Yields...


>>53354918
ARKK

>>53354776
>Am i gonna MAKE IT?
idk do you usually make good trades?
you know what they say, history doesn't repeat it rhymes

>>53354254
Retarded red deer deniers said that don’t mean nuffin

>>53354424
The probability of ath this year is -1

>>53354982
holy shit, that’s pretty bad.
3mo is getting above the one year.

Protip: not only does feds want to normalize rates, fed also wants to remove fed put

NYSE: CLS
TSX: CLS

Celestica just agreed to stock huge stock buy backs. They are owned by private equity firms like ONEX with massive stakes. They provide defense contracts to UAVs AEROSPACE etc. Good cashflow and earnings. Possibly a strong buy for the future with nato expansion and dominance.

>>53354982
I still dont get this yield inversion thing

>>53355135
The longer timeframe is suppose to pay higher interest, when it's the other way around like in the cartoon picture, dorks panic

>>53355135
Every time there has been a inversion there has been a recession expect like once in 66'

>>53355135
meant to post this

>>53355135
if you can get 4% return on loaning money for 2 years, but only 3% for 10 years.......something fuckeys happening. yield is tied to risk, the immediate short term is seen as riskier and thus people demand a higher yield as compensation, but is it it riskier?

>>53355190
OR people anticipate that rates will be lower long term and higher short term

>>53354982
Why don't people FOMO into 1 year bonds yielding 5%? Isn't that much better than savings accounts? When yields go down again you might even sell at profit
Find it hard to believe USgov will default on 1 year obligations senpai

>>53355250
>Why don't people FOMO into 1 year bonds yielding 5%?

Not enough even keep up with inflation.

>>53354376
Futures are up 1% or down 1% about half the days I look, kek. Do you guys overreact to everything in the stock market like this?

>>53355259
Don't worry senpai, the Fed will soon crash the stock market, killing inflation (and the economy) but then you will be glad to have guaranteed payback and 5% yield

>>53355260
>Do you guys overreact to everything in the stock market like this?
Yes it's fun

I'm going to long Campbell's, their tomato soup prices are shooting up so fucking high like eggs now!

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/peak-flation-watch-campbells-tomato-soup-prices-keep-accelerating-higher

>>53355273
Investing isn't fun, read more balance sheets bitch ass nigga

>>53355273
Heh
>>53355300
I've honestly got balance sheet burnout. I've looked at so many of the damn things I might as well start dreaming about them

I know, I'm a tard, but the stock market carousel of the past semester confused me beyond repair.

I've waited till now to invest my last 10k into etfs (europoor here). Months came and went while I waited for a crash and the lates drop seems to be a nice entry point.
How spastically retarded would it be to buy those VUSA stocks I've set my eyes upon some time ago? Am I setting myself up for a gigantic rugpull?
I just want to invest and stop worrying anymore, but at the same time I'd rather not walk into a complete trap...

>>53355275
>CVS: $2.29/each, increase of $0.50 (+27.9%)
Holy shit these gouging fuckers.
>>53355300
>he doesn't ride the tiger

The fuck do I buy with my savings lol
I know shitton of crypto but nothing about stocks, kinda want some shitty lowcaps aswell.

>>53355300
I never read a single balance sheet and make around 20% a year.

>>53355315
You can keep your cash for all of 2023 and not miss out on anything. Why is it so hard for people to understand that what started a year ago isn't about to end in two more weeks?

>>53354918
>AQB
Short? why?

>>53355315
how long are you investing for. 20 years or more? It's never a mistake to invest in america for long term. EU stocks are at all time highs too, LVMH is on a massive tear. I think risk of global recession is over stated

>>53355315
Shiller p/e is still 28 going into a recession. 30-50% short-term downside risk for the s&p 500, I'd say. No idea what the upside is. So I avoid those sorts of etfs for now.

>>53355369
MUH P/E

>>53355374
Kek

>>53355369
>expecting 50% downside risk in the short term for s&p
this is your regular /smg/ poster (You) get advice from

>>53355374
>>53355443
Just wait and see, bullniggers. I will be vindicated in time.

>>53355452
at worst we crab in which my bullish put writing still pays off

>>53355358

Mostly long term, but I'd rather not see my investment crippled right away by -XX% if I can avoid it.
I'd just, instead, invest elsewhere.

>>53355452
how can the s&p crash to 2000 in the short term which would be at 10 p/e? you're just throwing percentages around without even thinking about, retard

Has John rocker ever had sex? If so was it consensual?

>>53355499
Because if there's a recession, earnings go down
If companies have to refinance at higher rates, earnings go down (interest payment)

We've had a perma-bullmarket since 2008 on the back of continuous QE and interest rates going down. Now, they've suddenly gone up in the most overleveraged economy ever.

I said 30-50%, I think 30% is much more probable but I think you're underestimating how much the Fed was putting a floor under the market. Every time they tried to take it away, there was a small panic. So yes, I did think about it. Doesn't mean it has to happen, just that the risk is there

https://youtu.be/k_zz3239DA0?t=1245

SOXL bros...........................................

>>53355593
Don't watch some hipster faggot's video. Read Chip War.

>>53355499
>>53355541
people expecting growth in shit macro is beyond understanding. The market need to get back to the reality but nobody wants to give up those gainz and thus gives us this clown market

It's like the french who go in the street because the retirement age is increased. At some point you have to realize that the social support has a cost and you need to work for it otherwise you're just raising debt until everyone lose trust in the system

Im shorting Coinbase and Nasdump, please redeem all tokens

Will we be green today? Surely the market will love the NFLX Computer thingy

>>53355649
On top of that, literally everyone I know is in the stock market. My friends are all in the stock market. My mom is in the stock market. My dad is in the stock market. Friends of friends are in the stock market and their parents too. They haven't left, they're just becoming a little nervous now.

>>53355649
Why organize the economy such that you'd need to increase the retirement age when you harvest most of the benefits from the deflationary drive of new technology anyway? Those people don't have to realize that social support has a cost, they have to realize that technology has increased their productivity by an amount far surpassing their wage

>>53355268
>Don't worry senpai, the Fed will soon crash the stock market, killing inflation (and the economy) but then you will be glad to have guaranteed payback and 5% yield
first public servants will milk inflation as long as they can, in order to reduce their public debt they create

>>53355541
>>Because if there's a recession, earnings go down
they are already are. Also recession will be mild. What creates a strong recession is the price of oil. As long as oil remains under 100 usd, zero chance of the apocalypse and it will be a nothing burger by summer 2023

however, china will make energy prices rise and this is why everybody is waiting for something to happen in china, in order to know where we stand. So far everybody agrees it remains uncertain.


>>53355677
>On top of that, literally everyone I know is in the stock market. My friends are all in the stock market. My mom is in the stock market. My dad is in the stock market. Friends of friends are in the stock market and their parents too. They haven't left, they're just becoming a little nervous now.
this jsut means NPCs have too much cash in their hands, jsut like all the poos, arabs and africans and shilling their shittycons.

All those retailers are easily killed with a bear campaign over a few weeks and then the supply dries and the indices rise.

Anyway, we will now what will happen with the daily chart and spikes in volume, it's always the same story.

>>53355541
how can you have massive earnings contractions if consumer still consooms? yesterday fucking NFLX showed a 7.66 million net gain in subs. you have lowest unemployment rate but you're talking about a great depression style crash where the unemployment rate was at 25%
the bubble will pop but not in Q1 this year. wake me up end of Q2 or Q3 where shit really hits the fan

12,000 layoffs at google just announced. Market will surely pump on this good news.

>>53355673
what happened with Netflix? It's down 0.5% on the EU markets, I don't see any significant movement one way or the other.

>>53355743
Are they all zoomer "marketing" women, or actual coders?

>Powell finally getting his unemployment numbers up
Bullish as fuck, holy shit

>>53355743
still not buying google. they are in big trouble. what have they done since android and chrome? literally nothing. Chatgpt and augmented reality is nipping at their heels and is extremely threatening to their search engine (only profitable part of google)

>>53355774
>>Powell finally getting his unemployment numbers up
the opposite happened yesterday

>>53355733
>the bubble will pop but not in Q1 this year. wake me up end of Q2 or Q3 where shit really hits the fan
My window for 'short-term' is about a year
>you have lowest unemployment rate but you're talking about a great depression style crash where the unemployment rate was at 25%
Problem is that the Fed actually wants to push up unemployment, since very low unemployment is an inflation driver. But unemployment is a lagging indicator. So my best guess is that they'll feel pretty comfortable hiking on until something breaks.
Shiller p/e is about the same now as it was before the great depression. That does not mean we'll have a great depression (I really don't think that will happen) but if you look at p/e as a measuring stick for optimism, the market is still wildly optimistic. In my opinion you don't need to be in a depression for a 30% correction, you just need sentiment to really go sour. There's not a lot of FUD right now, everyone expects a pivot soon and easy money forever.

>>53355782
That's what happens when you only hire jeets and chinks based on memorized leetcode problems.

>>53355782
Google has something like $110 billion in cash and they own part of SpaceX. I'm not really worried about their competitiveness.

>>53355799
their pajeet ceo has been riding on the wave of his suggestion to develop chrome for over 10 years. how the board hasnt fired him is absolutely insane to me. google is functioning worse than meta in my opinion and they dont have the excuse of controlled shares like zuck has in terms of company direction

>>53355743
Damn, what's next, Amazon gonna lay off 800k wagies in the coming weeks?

>>53355806
Yeah their enterprise value is lower than market cap. That's not a good thing for a mega corporation. Cash is not king for big companies.

>>53355814
There are plenty of jobs available. All the fast food places and grocery stores are desperate for help.

>>53355729
>they are already are.
Isn't that mostly inflation taking down margins? Not lack of demand?
>What creates a strong recession is the price of oil.
You can also get a strong recession via debt deflation, all these indebted companies blowing up, like what happened in China with their retarded real estate developers
>All those retailers are easily killed with a bear campaign over a few weeks and then the supply dries and the indices rise.
Well the NPCs have been programmed to keep buying the dip, in my opinion you need more than a few weeks now. When normies start hissing at the word 'stocks' is probably a good buying opportunity

>>53355830
Just google 'balance sheet recession' and 'debt deflation'

>>53355790
I wouldn't believe the fed too much.
december 2021 dot plot suggested 75bps for whole 2022. we got four (4) back-to-back 75bps.
last december they said target around 5%-5.5% range, bond market says fuck off you won't
they are literally just talking tough, otherwise you would see the debt market loosening up even more where inflation might actually go into upward trend again
if everybody and their dog tells (You) in the stock market that event XYZ will happen, it won't

>>53355790
>very low unemployment is an inflation driver.
no it isn't, and no they don't actually believe that. they know the truth, but they need whatever excuses you will believe, to point to everyone else as the cause of inflation instead of themselves. the federal reserve system is the sole source of inflation.

>>53355782
I think chatGPT's (or rather, GPT by itself) impact is still underestimated right now. And I can see the impact on Google, in fact, I already use an extension that adds chatGPT to my google search, and I get both answers. But the impact on Google Search is way overestimated.
ChatGPT just can't replace Google. Unless you find a way to train the model constantly in real time by pluging it on the internet constantly 24:7 (which could be possible), but again, it will depend on the internet for this. And by design, Google will always be a step forward. whateverGPT can't exist without being trained first on data. Data is what matters. Whoever controls the data controls the AI. Simple as. Google will always be a step forward regarding this, but it's true Microsoft could dethrone them.

>buy some meme small caps with heavy short interest at its weekly lows
>hold the shares while my broker lends those shares out to the shorts
>get free money from the fees
easiest money i've ever made bros

>>53355806
why the fuck is it a good thing to you to have an intermediary to spacex or any other company you think is cutting edge?
would you buy healthcare via a company that buys and sells ads and makes a free web browser?

>>53355887
I literally see it happening in my country nigger, nobody can find employees so they're raising wages to compete for workers, and then prices because at some point that hurts your margins too much
>>53355879
Talking tough is possible, yeah

>>53355906
chatgpt definitely isn't a threat at the moment I would agree, but the fact we're talking about it seriously instead of laughing at something like bing in comparison is scary enough for investors of google. They have done nothing to innovate for 15 years. I would be very concerned if i had a large position in google.

yeah it's amazing how normies have been talking about chatgpt over the last 2 weeks, they just discovered the thing

>>53355906
>Unless you find a way to train the model constantly in real time by pluging it on the internet constantly 24:7 (which could be possible)
too liable to overtraining. training cannot work without curation and AI cannot do curation of training data, because it isn't "intelligence" or intelligent.

>>53355952
the whole ai and chatgpt thing is the biggest meme and evidence that someone is a normalfag, it's hardly impressive and much of this shit has existed for decades

i remember being in irc channels and friends had algos that would engage with the chat and learn from words used, no different to chatgpt

and then the "art" side of it is just pajeet photobashing

>>53355937
>raising wages
that's not inflation, retard. back to remedial econ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O3fHAsdjNg

>>53355829
I dunno, even fast food chains are struggling, many places had to close down because people aren't eating out anymore iirc

>>53355973
>Use my Austrian definition of inflation which almost no one is using anymore
>Wages
No shit, the point was that it causes price increases

officially inflation is the cycle ''rise in prices''<=>''rise in wages"

a ''rise in prices'' alone is NOT inflation.

>>53356009
by the way inflation occurs in the US right now, but not in Europe, because the european wages are stagnant.

>>53355937
there is no risk of a wage-price spiral (for now) the US wage/income numbers in Dec. even decreased which got the market into this current "rally" in the first place.
a big crash can happen but if you're delusional enough you can even think about goldilock situation with increasing supply (due e.g. China), decreasing prices and a moderate (not massive) growth and a stable job market. in this scenario you will not see muh 30%-50% crash.
I'm not believing in this situation but it's a possibility, but saying 30%-50% crash will happen due muh earnings is retarded

>>53355906
>>53355957
The entire point of ChatGPT is that it combines GPT with more generalizable reinforcement learning feedback. Reinforcement learning is a much more flexible technique and doesn't need a differentiable loss function during training, so they can feasibly hook up the model to a search engine index to make it even smarter. Microsoft acquired a 49% stake in OpenAI for this reason, and they're actively working on integrating it with Bing. Google is fucked unless they get their act together ASAP.

>>53354004
I don't remember this netflix.

>>53356037
>there is no risk of a wage-price spiral (for now) the US wage/income numbers in Dec. even decreased which got the market into this current "rally" in the first place.
I also think so, but that wasn't really my case. My case was just recession > insecurity > bad sentiment. I see the problems being more on the financing side. In my opinion the events in the UK and Japan show that there's real fragility there. So if I'm wrong about this year being a very bad year in stocks, my expectation is that it'll be because there are no financing problems, and that I was wrong about worrying about rate hikes with this level of debt.
The US would be rolling over trillions of debt this year, if all of the debt were refinanced at 5% you'd be paying half of the taxpayer budget in interest rates every year. It won't be quite that bad, probably, but I still think the markets can get a lot more nervous. Let's drop the discussion for now, I just want to wait it out.

>>53356203
I'm just playing devils advocate. my personal target is around 3200 with maybe an overshoot to like 3000 which is another 20%-25% down
I think inflation will go down for now until it gets sticky at the 4% range and then it will get interesting what the fed will do. move their 2% goalpost further up? rate hike to death? we'll see

Classy. CNBC is still calling Alphabet ‘Google’.

>>53354231
>>53354257
KINGS
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For me it’s GDXU, NRGU, KOF and OIL.

lol

>>53356309
ez short

>>53355733
Dumb question, why not short it going down, let it btfo by like 20-30% then go long?
That's my plan and yes I'm trying to time the market but I think this may end up being the trade of my lifetime so I don't want to sit it out.
Idk if I should wait for another pump to 410-430 first.
But I intend to buy around 280.

>>53356246
Well, what some of these older guys are saying is that the current Fed (and Powell) are terrified of being like the 70s Fed under Burns, which dropped interest rates as soon as the CPI went down a bit (and then, in response, inflation would soar again). That whole disaster ended up with Volcker pushing interest rates to 20% and pushing the USA through multiple recessions
If that really is the way they're modeling things, I wouldn't expect them to ease up soon. My thinking is they will, if something breaks, but 'if something breaks' means having a real financial crisis and market panic. So coming back to my original post, I'm not buying ETFs, I'm treating the stock market like a mine field right now.

>>53355499
its essay fag. A doomer that can be ignored. Nigger has been doom posting through the asset bubble

>futures

Reeee stop pumping stupid NASDAQ, I still need to consolidate my position

convince me to short the Standart & poors 500 in this gay schizo market.

>>53356256
When is the market going to actually see the fruits of all these layoff headlines and pump the market already?

>>53356396
How do I short western society

>>53355906
The biggest impact that they get even a small amount of people to use bing and so cuck google out of search avenue which is the overwhelmingly majority of their revenue

>>53356321
>Idk if I should wait for another pump to 410-430 first.
s&p 4000 is 200 MA. the safe bet is to build up shorts at this level. if the s&p stays above 4000 for some time you would actually see big money and algos turning bullish and pumping it up to your target which may or may not happen.
I would build up at 4000 and double down if it goes higher. at least that's what I'm doing. I'm holding some high beta growth stocks at the same time just to make sure if the market turns somehow and actually goes much higher those are the stocks who will have the biggest initial pump

>>53356406
Fucking never because they are "tech" job layoffs and not actual tech jobs. There is a huge shortage of software engineers because field continues to fuckimg explode into new fields and specializations every year

Seriously go back a decade and there were no fucking cloud jobs. Barely any app design jobs. Not to mention all the languages. They are firing all the "day in the life of a female """"engineer""""!" Tik toks idiots

>>53356425
>safe bet is to build up shorts at this level.
Yeah I've been seriously considering it desu. I just keep seeing other bobos get rekt and don't want to end up kms because the nigger market decided to pump like the cunt has done every couple of weeks recently. I want to set up a solid short position and just wait for it to print. Easier than it sounds around this level. I think I'll see what sentiment is like post Feb 1. Guess I'm too chickenshit to do anything around here.

I went long s&p500 with a x20 leverage . Am i gonna make it?

>>53356425
Also considering just buying SQQQ when the shit and piss goes up to 400 again (I am about 99% certain it will). Don't want to use leverage, I think it's a lot wiser to just rape the nasdaq while it's going down because tech dies early in a crash.

>>53356459
>longing on a friday
fridays are low volume consolidation days as the week's traders scale down/out of their weekly positions anon

>>53356438
>They are firing all the "day in the life of a female """"engineer""""!" Tik toks idiots
and it makes me so fucking happy

>>53356497
>>53356438
I hope this is true but I doubt it just yet because I'm not seeing roasties line up on the street corner wearing hasty make-up.

Bobros what the FUCK is going on??? THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE

>>53355782
I don't think google will be going anywhere. It's bigger than any other facebook and widely considered the central authority for knowledge seeking. I see no reason why it wouldn't cont to go up.

>>53356518
Aren't options expiring today? I think the market generally pumps on these days

I'm hungry why can't I order a pizza for breakfast. Land of the free my ass.

>>53356518
https://youtu.be/Q1bZGtJTT-A

Why is COIN a thing? Is it some reddit shit again?

>>53356578
The DXY* is up 30 pts tho might see a reversal of one of those (DXY* or SPX*)

>>53356459
You will fight a glorious battle with bobo, your name will be remembered by generations to come

>>53356518
Double down.

Can't you literally just build an AI that sells IMMEDIATELY once a stock goes down, and buys IMMEDIATELY once it goes up again? Even if the stock goes up just .1%, buy it?

>>53356459
How long?

You're probably gonna get gang raped if it was under a year.

>>53356619
a retest of the former 3 year support at 102.75? or maybe of the .786 fib at 105? Old dixie is going down in the mid to long term, and you know how bulls are when it comes to front running. btw, japanese shitcoins are currently dying, and the dollar aint really profiting

lmao if you earn €2500/mo net in germany as a single, you're in the top 27%. how do you survive with that pocket change?

>>53356693
future generation pay for the majority of social security health insurance and other stuff murricans and other anglos have to pay from their pocket

next time i want to catch the dump. just need to hold the cash few days instead of immediately putting it in something

>>53356688
I was talking about today, but yes long term old dixie is gonna have to turn in its grey's for some gold and silver

>>53356405
If you aren't already short you're too late.

>>53356484
it's opex anon. certainly not low volume

>>53356568
>I'm hungry why can't I order a pizza for breakfast
Because the agriculture lobby is really stupid strong

>>53356693
I don't know how it is in the US, but employers take care of some of your financial burdens in you're a euro. Like travel expenses, the pension fund, etc. Also less healthcare expense.
I live in Holland so I imagine my costs are pretty similar, and I can get by on 1200-1300 net, insured, eating whatever I want, etc.

it blows my mind that there were retards shorting nvda when it was down >70%

I hate Davos so much bros

>>53356727
the time for 0dte plays is over. the best bears can hope for is earning season being bad, I even doubt that a moderate one could break 360 on the spx, and powell going full doomer hawk and bringing an other 75 bepis into play, 50 wont cut it and should it be 45 we pump

>>53356675
bro you don't need ai for that, that's just called a market sell stop and a market buy stop baka. and that doesn't always work, if the market whipsaws like it typically does, you're just churning yourself back-and-forth trades with no real conviction

isn't it weird that everyone calls people saying we're all going to die from a vaccine is a conspiracy theorist but everyone who believes we're all going to die from climate change is rational

>>53356775
irrelevant after they failed on two occassions with their plays. Their pawns in national politics are slowly but surely being axed as liabilities. I wouldnt wonder to see the German foreign clown lady having to take its head once ukraine-Russia conflict got shoved under the rug

>>53356807
Shut the FUCK up and eat the bugs.

>>53356807
No, it isn't weird at all. There's literally zero evidence from any actual scientists that the covid vaccine is harmful, almost all scientists and experts agree climate change is a problem. This shithole of a thread would be so much better without conspiracy theorist retards who I've noticed are almost always bobos.

>>53356757
The US literally gives nothing to its workers. Even the best companies don't have paid vacation or maternity leave.

>KO: $59
>recent max one month price fluctuations: ~$5
>one month out $54 put: $0.22
>$0.22*100*12 = $264 per year
>maybe less if you buy back the put before expiration
>also you might get assigned
>O: $65
>83 shares for $5400
>current dividend per month: $0.248
>$0.248*83*12 = $247 per year
>buy once and forget about it
cash-secured puts are a fucking scam. I'm not doing all that extra work for $17

>>53356807
Because vaccines don't kill people retard, but, climate change is real.

>>53356825
no u

>>53356825
Consensus isn't science.

>>53356807
There is scientific evidence for climate change being a problem (and not exactly 'we're all going to die', but a disaster doesn't need a 100% kill rate). There is no scientific evidence that covid vaccines kill everyone.

>>53356825
>people who are realistic are bearish
>people who are desperate for things to work out in spite of bad choices are permabullish

>>53356831
>locking up 5k just to make $200
still not a great deal

>>53356779
I sometimes play CPI and Fed meetings, I don't care and not positioned for a dump away, I just want higher rates to tame inflation.

I feel like the dollar is primed to pump.

>>53356837
Yes it is you retard. You can't put everything in a lab but you can look at models and test certain hypothesis and make predictions. It isn't rocket science that carbon is heavy as a gas and becomes locked in the earths atmosphere. Do you think energy just magically vanishes or are you unaware of the existence of entropy? Energy can neither be created or destroyed it only can transform. So where is that energy in the form of carbon going? Is it magically vanishing?

If 1,000 tests show one result and one test shows a different result chances are something is wrong with the latter.

There's absolutely no way SPY retests 360, correct?

>>53356831
dividend stocks are usually extremely overvalued. you gonna be holding that 50+ years before the stock has paid itself

>>53356853
We had a massive dump in 2022 where the S&P dropped 25%, if you didn't buy then you'll literally never buy. The recession is unironically over, the Fed will hike 25 bps twice and then pause for a "long time" there is no bearish narrative anymore.

>>53356884
>absolutely no way
That's right, go all in 0dte OTM calls.

>>53356884
It will likely never go below 390 ever again, earnings will mostly beat

>>53356827
Well, in my country the problem is that rich people avoid tax (Holland is a tax evasion paradise) but they still want a progressive tax system, so they pump around money from the productive middle class towards unproductive people. That makes it very hard to actually gain net wealth through salary increases. So income inequality is very low here, but wealth inequality is enormous because this doesn't hit rich people.
Apart from the fact that there's this huge inertia, things work relatively well. Healthcare is stressed, but it works and is affordable, for example. And having some financial stress taken away in your contract is very good for people I think. The one big thing that doesn't work here is the housing market, since the EU has open borders we get flooded with immigrants, but since we have almost no free land here there's no way to build enough houses for everyone. So you pay way too much in rent and household debt in Holland is huge because the gubment encourages taking on gigantic mortgages.
But despite all that, I would never in my life want to life in the USA, especially seeing those vids about drug zombies in San Francisco etc. And because you get paid a bit more, but also screwed more. I prefer just to be frugal and invest. At times the USA sounds like a 3d world country to me

clown market
clown year
clown decade
clown earth

>>53356887
You dumb mother fuckers are in denial and have no understanding about history.

>>53356884
Yeah the general consensus is that it’s completely impossible in any scenario

>>53356765
It has a long way down still to go. It’s way overvalued

>>53356869
V-shaped recovery

>>53356887
>massive dump
>25%
lmao

>>53356867
core is probably going to below 5.3 yoy in February . Final rate is going to be a joke around 4.75 - 4.8 for a year or two, if even. Longer and higher my ass. In retrospective people will call 2022 an accumulation year

FUCKING FIDELITY ROBOTS ARE BASICALLY GETTING ME THE SAME RETURN AS S&P 500 BUT FIDELITY CHARGES ME FUCKING FEES

SHOULD I JUST TELL THEM TO FUCK OFF AND PUT IT ALL IN VOO?

>>53356886
my plan is to live off divvies when Im older and move to south america with my femboy girlfriend (pic related)
dividends are based

>>53356907
Yeah I think the border policy you guys have is kind of asinine, to a degree. I have some people in europe that I know that complain about it. In my opinion the housing market shouldn't be privatized, or, at least housing should be undertaken by the government that is affordable but yes borders should be better regulated.

However, a lot of the reason people migrate in the first place is because of first world fuckery.

>>53356869
QT and balance sheet unwinding is bullish for the dollar, isn't it?

>>53356938
ETFs charge you fees too, they're just less transparent about it.

>>53355699
>when you harvest most of the benefits from the deflationary drive of new technology anyway?
Supposedly

>>53356914
>>53356923
The past dumps are irrelevant, zoomer bullchads like myself will buy MORE the lower the market goes. Since we all DCA and buy every dip it won't ever go below -25%, I'm actually really surprised it went as low as 3500 those were some delicious slurps, I was also able to get more Apple at a great price.

>>53356560
>widely considered the central authority for knowledge seeking
Google sucks for knowledge seeking now. They apparently don't think search results need to contain the words typed into the search bar. Half the time I search stuff now, I get countless results that are clearly irrelevant to what I actually typed. Unfortunately, just about everybody else followed suit. Eventually, somebody who knows how a decent search engine worked ten or fifteen years ago will code one up and then google search will be abandoned.

>>53356953
Perhaps, but maybe it went higher than it should have previously.

>>53356946
dividends are based, but you don't have enough just yet to really benefit from it; you'd be better off throwing that into rotating sectors; a good small cap will turn that 6k to 40k in the next 3 months

>>53356982
Im not good at trading, I've lost money most of the time. Im taking the nice and slow bogle route

>>53356921
You fags have literally been saying this for 2 years.

we have at least 1 more year of a bear market and that is being generious. If the fed were to loosen up right now they would destroy the whole economy worse than a recession could and they know it.

The housing market is blowing up right now, people are defaulting on agreements and walking away from a house with a downpayment already on it. That is a huge red flag there.

Manufacturing has hit all time lows but inflation is even worse and the fed knows it. At the company I work for several of our assembly lines are shut down and the laid off all of our temps. The fed is going to keep hiking until inflation is at MINIMUM 3% or lower.

>>53356970
DCA'ing is fine dummy. It's placing shorts on call options that is currently really fucking retard, over all.

>>53356950
>In my opinion the housing market shouldn't be privatized, or, at least housing should be undertaken by the government that is affordable but yes borders should be better regulated.
I agree
>However, a lot of the reason people migrate in the first place is because of first world fuckery.
Idk, the main reason is just that we're rich and they are not. The people that come here are not the dregs of society in the 3d world, it's people with smartphones and *some* means that want to live somewhere where life is better. I don't blame 'em, but if you poll Nigerians these days, 60% of young ones want to go to Europe or the US. Can't help but feel that this sort of osmosis, millions of people coming in, will just drag us down to 3d world level. I will never agree that these places are poor because of us, that's a grifter story, they have always been poor, but if they get richer then *more* people come to Europe, not less, so it's not even the most important point.
>Yeah I think the border policy you guys have is kind of asinine,
Pfwah, don't get me started. I won't get into the complexities of it, but the state is literally saying 'well we can't do anything about it, and we won't do anything about it, but it's a problem', something like that

>>53356972
>google sucks for knowledge seeking

Yeah this is true, but, try explaining that to your average retard normie and yeah, the way the algorythm works now is impossible. I do coding as a hobby and any time my servers have something fucked up it makes debugging impossible. I use DDG too and even they have been infected with google faggotry.

Should I look for a job now? I feel like I should not live off of my investments for much longer especially when I don't have any means of putting money back into them to keep them up. Unless I get smart with how I sell and buy back into different stocks.

It's either get really clever and time the market or become a wagie and lose a part of my humanity.

>>53356946
good luck with that. its not a cheap choice but if you think you can sustain a income good enough to let you hoard divvy stocks until you have a sustainable income of them then its not a bad idea

390 REJECTED

>>53357000
yeah, i mean by doing the same strat: buying and holding, no leverage/options

you don't want to lock up small thousands for dividends because you definitely can get better returns elsewhere; just as i mentioned avoid using margin and options

>>53357018
yeah I heard it wasn't the dregs either, per se. I know that a lot of immigration has happened in the past because of policies enacted by the united states in the past, but, maybe I am not up to date on current events enough. At anyrate, I don't think pajeets should be invading Europe if they clearly don't need to be migrating there.

>>53356946
Wait, femboy?
This is a man?

>>53357047
If that is a man I am now gay.

>>53356970
>20yo
>mommy's money
>market go up even when it can't go up because no cheap money
>I have xpert knowledge, it 3500 is the permabottom
>apple
>great price
>not going to zero

>>53356887

>le new paradigm, never crash again

Holy shit get over yourself dude. GFC, dot com bust, 70s, and the 80s ALL had declines of greater than 50%. I’m sure sentiment among retards like you was the same back then.

>but you don’t UNDERSTAND, this time is DIFFERENT

>>53357047
of course it is, silly.

>>53356675
A buy high sell low kind of AI?

>>53357061
Apple is a status symbol with my generation, cope harder boomer.

>>53357005
Dollar going up will prolong the recession and enable me to buy a japanese wife on the cheap.

>>53357064
>but you don’t UNDERSTAND, this time is DIFFERENT
lol it is tho? y u mad

>>53357064
They didn't print trillions of dollars back then. Adjust the market for the amount of money printed, both stocks and BTC are cheap right now. You're a seething boomer fag who missed the bottom lmao.

>>53357080
Apple is Genx core hipsterism that should have died in 1998.

>>53357045
Bombing Libya and Syria and Iraq did not help much, yes. But most people coming to Europe are not refugees, it's just people who want to go from some poor country to some rich country and live the dream. Obviously, it cannot be the case that the whole world comes live the dream here, so they should be told to go away- I don't think there's any other reasonable solution. But nobody here has any balls- it's just the way it is.

>>53357005
>If the fed were to loosen up right now they would destroy the whole economy
I keep seeing people say this but then never actually back it up [because they can't]

>>53357091
Sounds like you missed the top

>>53357092
iphone rate is only increasing more with zoomers every year. Younger zoomers get physically beaten and have their phones smashed if they dare have an android at school. Apple won the smartphone war awhile ago and smartphones are the most important product now, the company is actually undervalued.

>>53357102
Do you not understand the historical significance of inflation in economies all over the world?

>>53357091

The trillions in stimulus printed to get the SPY to 500 only supports the case for a GREATER than 50% drop. It’s called MEAN REVERSION. Imagine thinking TSLA is going back to its ATH in your lifetime

>>53356883

>>53357114
>Younger zoomers get physically beaten and have their phones smashed if they dare have an android at school.
Kek, what
>>53357005
I started applying for work months ago to get a contract signed with gubment before the recession would start to bite, I expect it'll be very bad so I want some security beforehand

>>53357080
We don't have any meaningful money, retard

>>53357033
Not him, but honestly, it's not *that* hard if you're frugal. And even there, I'm not sure I'm that frugal, I mean, I go skiing two to three weeks per year (going tomorrow for a week), hike in summer, go to Japan every 3 or 4 years, with a little trip in an EU capital or another in between. On average, considering the last 10 years, I spend ~22K per year, that includes the rent of my flat (and it's not cheap, I could divide it by 2 by moving out from the capital), food, vacations, all the shit I buy on the interbutt including camera, lenses, RTX, delicious anime girls plastic butts, whatever a geek needs, taxes, and so on.
My oil stonks bought in March 2020 brings me a nice 9% divy. Honestly, with 300K€ of them, and deducing taxes from the divies I'd get, I already cover already cover my yearly expenses. If I had more balls in march 2020, I could've invested the 150K I already have, i'd be halway through it, desu. Not to mention how the principal would've done a +100% since then.
To be safe, in my situation, and as I didn't count the healthcare expenses, I think with 500K I could live comfortably from the divies. Even moreso if I go to the countryside, or better yet, to a cheap country like Portugal or whatever. 500K is plenty doable.
But I don't have kids nor a gf, and I don't intend to change that. It helps if I want to stop working.

>>53357114
You're a 50 year old man. Zoomers cannot and will not physically fight anyone, very boomer-tier attitude you've got there.

>>53357151
Speak for yourself, poorfag. I made millions from Hex and dog coins in 2021.

>>53357140
Just let the zoomzoom lose his play money, only red lines fix this sort of behavior

>>53356938
Robo advisors was an obvious scam to skim more fees. Surprised anyone falls for this shit.

god damn it this pump's gonna kill me

>>53357125
All I see is that inflation has only ever gone up and it seems like everyone has done a pretty good job of dealing with it. Imagine telling someone in 1923 that the average US home price would be over $400,000, it would be inconceivable. Just like me telling you that "this inflation really isn't that bad".

>>53356615
>Why is COIN a thing?
buttcorn up = coin up
buttcorn down = coin down
simple BTC play traded on the nasdaq™ exchange

>>53357158
Cope harder boomer, most zoomers could beat most boomer fags easily.

>>53357161
Based stealing money from clueless boomers trying to stay hip ngl

>>53356869
OOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>53357176
reddit retardation confirmed.

>>53356916
The entire nasdaq is

I’m Reddit and this is bullish

>>53357172
>Zimbabwe
>Germany

>Everyone deals with it so well!!

Retard zoomers need to go back to class. Inflation does only go up which is why you need to deal with it before things become to expensive to purchase and consumers cannot fucking afford a place to live or food to eat. We have seen it before in the united states in the great recession ffs.It's the reason why the federal reserve was created. You hiakieans are so fucking retarded.

>>53357206
The entire economy is

Chould I chort this piece of chit?
What do they even do? Make universal remotes?

>>53357206
Many tech stocks are down 50% or more, they are underpriced.
>>53357220
Redditors are permabears, go back.

>>53354004
Are there any sites that quote EPS and P/E off the averaged of several years rather than just the most recent quarter?

>>53357245
Morningstar

>>53357241
fucking weird to see it's that high up, the only people that buy these are poorfags that don't have smart tvs, and even those are becoming cheaper and cheaper by the day with those features already built in

>>53357244
Reddit and normie boomers all think it’s over and about to rush back to all time highs

>>53356807
Wow, lotta bots replying to this one. Short mrna

>>53357245
I think Morningstar. Not sure what you’re asking exactly, but they have past metrics, which I find very enlightening!

We hit previous lows in late April then crawl back to ATH by the next winter screencap this post

>netflix misses earnings by 80%
>during peak netflix viewing season
>7% pump in pm

>>53357244
I think the nasty surprises won't be tech stocks (unless they have huge cash burn and no earnings) but 'value' stocks like KO and Mcdonalds trading at 30 p/e for no little yield and no growth. Makes no sense holding those if bonds are at 5% or even 6%, so if rates go up more they should see a pretty brutal correction.
I'm also not too negative on tech stocks though

sell it all

>>53357280
they cancel shows every other day so it offsets losses i guess :^)

>>53357270
>t. underage fail troll
go back

>>53357280
I heard it pumped because the boss is stepping down or something

>>53357244
They're going down another 30%+ from here. The recession has barely started yet. This is consensus at this point, nothing controversial.
Also redditors breathe air and eat and drink and live indoors, stop doing all those things

>>53357239
>The US in 2023 is Zimbabwe or Germany
oh christ come the fuck on

>>53357280
They missed (((expectations))) you disingenuous fag

>>53357261
I thought I was one of these zombie companies living off “top line” growth from the money printer. I think it is judging by the earnings.

smart money is dumping en masse while dumb money is pouring in, kek baggies

>>53357270
>bobo doesn't live in reality
This is why it's hard to have serious discussions with bobos, you literally deny reality. 90%+ of normans are bearish and have been for months, most unironically think SPY is going to 200.

>>53357310
it's probably generating a lot of revenue from selling the data the devices farm

Can’t wait to short 10k worth more of NVDA at open. Please gap up please gap up please gap up

>>53357261
...Do you not understand that most people are buying smart TVs with Roku built in at this point, gramps? Also did you see that massively successful Weird Al movie that was exclusively on Roku?

>>53357317
I'm going 0 IQ mode then, bobotard.

>>53357317
i'm long and up 9% so far today

>>53357317
Smart money is also being dumb this time around

>>53357279

who held GNS overnight?

>>53357289
Dude I’m dead serious. Normies really think it’s 2023 now and it’s back to stocks going up. Sorry if you’re bag holding, I thought you knew better

>>53357342
Ah, hello

>>53357345
>did you see that goyslop movie about a jew?
no, i did not

Smart money has been accumulating since June. Dump money sold the bottom, three times and about to do it a 4th time

>>53357300
Expectations that were already low as fuck, you disingenuous fag.

>>53357279
Are you this anon by chance?

>>53357297
>The recession has barely started yet.
God damn bobo you are retarded. The recession is over, it was in 2022 when we had 2 quarters in a row of negative GDP and a 25% dump on SPY in the same year. You literally missed it because you're such a greedy faggot.

>>53357362
lmao
>>53357360
kek

>>53357355
>$5
interdasting, was there news or is it just an early small cap rotation pump? a lot of others are making very similar formations lately

>>53356883
>If 1,000 tests show one result and one test shows a different result chances are something is wrong with the latter.
Maybe if the tests were unbiased. Unfortunately, scientists get more funding by having research conclusions that the mainstream supports. Even if not for having a mainstream opinion, incentives still push them to conclude whatever they're researching is a problem. If their tests conclude that the issue isn't an issue, then they have no grounds on which to get a second round of research.

>>53357360

>2 days early
>cost basis down 5%

Lol. Yep that’s me. I’ll short more on this juicy gap up, hopefully they bloat this pig up even more. Baby is going to 80

>Americans wake up

>>53357368
Okay but it's insignificant that they added 7 fucking MILLION subscribers?

>>53357332
This is fine

>>53357393
I'm not sure.

Did scat poster anon from a week ago make the janny quit?

>>53357403
GOOD MORNING USA!
I HAVE A FEELING THAT IT'S GONNA BE A WONDERFUL DAY!

>>53357399
>I think it's going up
>Therefore I'm shorting
Huh?

>>53357399
You are so naive

>>53357420
Probably, nothing ever gets deleted anymore no matter how many rules it breaks or how many time the person behind it does the same thing.

>>53357419
look into other small caps anon, you'd be surprised at how many are flagging above an ma on their weeklies and breaking their downtrends, many with identical 4hr charts prior to the pump on GNS; you'll see more and more moves like it over the next few weeks/months as capital exits megas, main argument being cheaper debt is incredibly bullish for emerging companies

>>53357416
If they added that many and still missed, then they got some major budget cutting to do. Or continue raising prices. Honestly, where is the money going?

>>53357435
I'm bagholding NRSN, PRE, and VVOS

>>53357447
i've been buying a shit ton of companies with this formation over the past year as everyone else has been cucked by megas

basically year long accumulation of small caps

>>53357423
Why does no one see how depressing that tweet is? How far gone and the US has gotten. A place even more riddled with niggers and shitskins. Where infrastructure is eroding rapidly or just does not exist. A place governed by jews from the top down. It has to take seeing media from japan to see this hilarious juxtaposition. It's just another form of paris syndrome really. They need to start coining the term new york syndrome.

>>53357445
>Where is the money going
All Big Tech companies spend an incredible amount of money on big fancy offices in major cities so they can have the clout. They overpay all their dumb employees to keep them around, and spend a shit ton on catered food and snacks and other stupid perks. Etsy's headquarters in NYC literally has kombucha on tap on 6 floors.

another shitty day

>>53357473
>>53357473
>>53357473
new
>>53357473
>>53357473
>>53357473
new

>>53357465
>Etsy's headquarters in NYC literally has kombucha on tap on 6 floors.
Not everyone works at Taco Bell, anon.

>>53357467
Another dollar (lost)

>>53357376
Mumutard we always warn you not to get cocky because you will get rekt but do you listen
The 3m/10y is inverted by over 1%
Let's hear your thesis about how the Fed gets us out of this mumutard, go right ahead
Because ours is recession

>>53357478
>janny deleting everything
ah it's gonna be one of those days huh, well i'm done posting then, enjoy your zero salary from no ad revenue gained because i already block them, janny

>he's gonna say soft landing

>>53356883
>You can look at models
Models tell you what you tell them to tell you, I don't know why so many idiots put so much faith in models. Every few years we find out about some major factor that they hadn't considered or included in their calculations but somehow doesn't disrupt their models or predictions at all (except maybe pushing them a few more years down the road).

STOP SELLING PEPSI RIGHT FUCKING NOW