/biz/ - Business & Finance

First it’s just
>”I’m only stacking for weight”
Then it’s
>”I also started collecting some of the cooler rounds and coins I like too”
Now it’s
>”why yes I did just spend half my monthly wage on a historical mint condition numismatic coin of a based medieval ruler I like… how can you tell?”

Stacking metal has sent me down a rabbit hole I will never financially recover from. Now I’m not just buying bullion, I’m buying a fuck ton of historical numismatics and memorabilia too. I’m fucking addicted and I don’t even know why. Where does it end for me?

poast fwtdhwaqad coombait.
all of it

First for silver matchbox cases from 18 hundreds that are stereotypes.

>>53347471
wtb wife

>>53347471
Love the kookaburra coins. Is that your first kook?

Obligatory

>>53347609
Not my pic, i just take them from the previous thread.

>>53347609
Not that guy. But my first ever 1oz was a kook. From a pawn shop, dude has a big stack of 1oz whatevers for slightly more than I wanted to pay. Said if any were kooks I’d have one.

>Dissolves parliament

>>53347524
>I will never financially recover from.
You consider trading fake money for real money a bad thing?

>>53347582
Try India, they like gold

>>53347790
No more so the obscene amounts I’m spending on numismatics and stuff like that as well but I only got interested in them in the first place through stacking gold and silver.

>>53347471
King charles chads, whats going to be the most collectible gold coin series of King Charles in 2023? Gold Lunar charles, Gold Tudor charles, Gold britannia charles, or something else? I want something that will go up in value not a generic gold coin

>>53347895
>Geiger Bars

Good to see another Elite stacker like myself.

Gold damn it why is gold pumping?

>>53348018
>Gold damn it
Kek

It's pumping because some large investors moved money into it. Silver is probably not far behind.

>>53347959
Are Geiger bars still made? I can't find any shop that has them in stock.

>>53348046
did you look at BOLD precious metals

>>53348046
As far as i know, must be low mintage.

>>53348046
>Are Geiger bars still made?
Seems like they are still around ..
https://www.geiger-edelmetalle.de/Online-Shop/Silber/Silberbarren/

>>53347609
Yes it’s my first kook coin. I got it cause I like birds.

>>53348363
do you have any ec8 coins?
there are a few nice bird coins there, like dominica and monserat

I will buy meme coins from anonymint and I will be happy

>>53348290
>they have their own site
Nice, I've just found them on a couple resellers and they were all out on the 1 oz version.

>>53348108
Interesting, I'll send them an email and ask how many they mint in a year.

Did I go too far?

>>53348420
No i am new to stacking but I just took a look at the coins you mentioned they are really cool. I want to collect coins with mythology, ancient civilizations and animals.

>>53348493
you only dipped it in 100% acetone right?

>>53348544
protip Australian Kookaburras appreciate the most in value more so than any other generic round or sovereign silver 1 ounce coin. I try to buy a roll of kooks every year. Fuck silver eagles they are overrated

>>53348544
definitely cool as long as you understand it will be difficult to get the premiums back if you try to sell, but definitely a fun hobby if you have the cash

>>53348493
Not bad

>>53348551
Forgive me, I was too lazy to get acetone so I did the salt bath thing for a few minutes. These used to be some of the worst coins in picrel. The green gunk and other dirt is off but they still have a healthy discoloration. The reddish hues look cool but are hard to capture in evening indoor light conditions.

Luv silver
Luv gold
Even luv copper
Hate fiat
simple as

I'm doing my quarterly pmg check-in. Did it happen yet? Are we getting closer?

>>53348363
Based bord enjoyer

>>53348735
>Even luv copper
Even? Copper's great.
You just need a LOT of it.

>>53348587
WHERE DO I BUY THIS

>>53348759
Two more weeks as usual

>>53347524
this entire post is literally me

>>53348907
Thanks, I'll check back in April

Thoughts?

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/analysis/return-of-the-gold-standard/

>>53349008
i unironically visit this thread to become more bullish. dead serious. never been more bullish than i have been right now since covid lows.

>>53349065
if everyone returned to the gold standard, would that mean silver in our coinage again, and turning fiat into silver/gold redemption notes/certificates?

>>53349065
Its going to happen whether they like it or not, (((european media))) will put shit like this out as a way to keep control of the narrative, to make it look to the people as if they are behind it when its really the brics+ that are now taking control.

>>53349095
How so? In stores it looks like premiums are as they have been and there's plenty of stock.

>>53349065
Gold standard is a kike scam.

>>53349206
i agree. WSS and pmg and whoever else isn't gonna move the needle, only institutional investors can, that's when they pull the entire populace along with them through funds and shit

>>53349236
>Gold standard is a kike scam.
>t. Jewboy

>>53349065
You should buy gold if you think the monetary system is about to legitimately collapse, like in a few weeks or months (protip it won't happen in our lifetimes). Otherwise all the time you're sitting in gold is time wasted, which can be put to use in a much more productive asset like digital gold BTC.

>>53349337
OR gold is good for generational wealth. You can pass down a couple million in gold to your offspring if you trust them with it

>>53348544
Based Fenrir enjoyer. You can get a double case to put them in so they sit next to each other and make the full wolf. It’s one of the worst things I’ve bought in terms of price but also one of my favorite.

>>53348587
I want this

>>53347524
bnuuy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUaM-Vd2_Mw

Take it easy~

>>53349324
It is.
Silver is the original money, they had to demonetize it and replace it with gold to be able to switch to a fiat standard.

>>53349477
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vci9YwpFFcA

>tfw sold my 1kg asahi silver bar today
ive been holding onto this lump of shit for years and i basically broke even on it
feels great finally getting rid of it, i think im gonna buy myself a nice bicycle for this spring
i regret falling for the precious metals meme every single day
im probably gonna liquidate my entire stack over the course of this year

>>53349337
>just time the bottom bro
KEK

>Gold to AUD just went above 2800

What's happening?

>>53349577
Checks out, I hope we return to 1:16 and stay there

>>53349627

>>53349477
THANKS ANON

>>53349607
>for years
>broke even
sure buddy

how long does fucking bold take to ship?

>>53349707
Did you pay by card or eCheck?

>>53349607
You must be pretty bad at timing your purchases.

>>53349707
they can be kind of slow, they're a small family operation anon

my entire stack is rounds and coins, should i get into some 5oz and 10oz bars for silver?

>>53349707
Dumb cunts cancelled my order

>>53349863
For sure. I like the 9 fine 10 oz bars they’re cheaper than most others and they have a hand poured look. I’m light on rounds. I am actually low on rounds, have only a few asahis the frosted finish makes them so easy to scratch that they have to stay in their capsules (don’t like that). Thinking about starting up on buffaloes.

>>53347959
When I bough mine, they were packaged in blister pack sheets, and the dealer (I suppose) cut them for individual ounces.

There was discussion a few threads ago about stacking Monarch Lego-type blocks. Here's why it doesn't work so well. The bottoms in particular are not very even or flat. The tops are a little better.

>>53349929
>>53349863
If you go with nine fine bars checkout Walmart, usually has best price online.

>>53350032
Also, the buttons and holes aren't very deep - not much to grab onto. Also, the holes are not precise (especially the corner ones), so there's a sloppy fit.

>>53348735
>>53348904
hey lads, ive been having a tough time buying copper cheaply. i love it so much and want to make things out of copper sheeting. but i just cant find a cheap source except for those chinese sites.

>>53349985
Do they even do the 1oz's in blister sheets? I thought that was only done with 1 grammers?

>>53350058
I would still build a wall with it. I want a bunch of them.

>>53349252
wrong
at these prices a group of a quarter million people could very well move the needle
annual output is 1 B oz
thats 4000 oz per head.
now I'm not saying many of those quarter million are buying 4000oz per year but a shocking amount are buying 400 oz / year
ohh also if you believe the 1/4 million official reddit number you are crazy

>>53350058
Definitely not Made In Germany.

Any of you kikes familiar with kike eschatology?
I have heard that the antichrist won't be able to take power until Israel is using gold and silver as money again. And that this requires the temple of Solomon to be rebuilt.

>>53350090
LOL! Got that right.

>>53350085
The wss Twitter account has 639k followers (just checked)
The true number of people following silver/PM on Twitter is probably closer to 6mil
Wss Twitter account is being followed by the muskrat himself
We're not small

>>53347524
I did this in reverse, I started stacking from collecting coins. I still do collect coins as most of my gold stack are historical pieces.
I could part with them if I had to tho.
>>53347533
I will because you got dubs.
Pls don't remove, jannies.

>>53348551
is 100% acetone the correct coin cleaning strategy? Does this work for all silver?

>>53350168
>The true number of people following silver/PM on Twitter is probably closer to 6mil

I dont believe that either.

>>53349577
This. We're fighting an uphill battle but we need to make it understood that gold can't be the standard and that it's only silver.
How do we get the word out there?
Is even zerohedge informed enough on this?
Apart from WSS we don't really have a strong voice, we need to get the idea out there

>>53350073
Copper *is* expensive. It has gone to just over $4/lb, and companies that make 'things' of of it have to add labor and manufacturing costs. The lowest dealer retail price I've seen is about $9.50/lb for 20 lbs of scrap wire (rotometals). Google "copper counter tops" for info on sheets. The least expensive stamped (or etched) copper bars I've seen are a 10-lb bar for $120 from Coperheadbullion and JM Bullion's 5-lb bar (not the cube) for almost $60.
But sheets... good luck.

I have about 20k in cash to drop on more metals, been waiting for a big waterfall dip they usually do but it never comes. The Jews are shirking their responsibilities.

>>53350217
Idgaf what you believe
https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1613954331618807812?t=nJI3yG7-wtG06PeTo1kIVg&s=19
I know those 6.4mil aren't all silver chads but it's a rough idea of reach

>>53350273
Relax your tits, its a fucking joke, 6mil?

>>53347524
Yes

How much in capital gains do you have to pay for gold and silver eagles in California?

>>53350297
Yes, 6.4m views, views indicate reach.

>>53350085
Annual output is 880Moz, but 60% of it is destined to the industrial sector, so it leaves the investors only 350Moz to play with.
Lets presume only 250K ppl want silver, that's 1400oz per head.
It's literally nothing. India alone imported 8000T of silver in 2022 (256Moz). That's over a quarter of the worldwide production just for one country!

At this point only the desperate JPM shills and full blown retards aren't gigabullish on silver. Especially now we know the chineses' solar production factories adopted the HJT standard (2.5x more silver needed). Don't waste your time with them fren, thats more cheapies for us.

>>53347524
That is a timeline I'm following too.
I've just dabbled with ancient coins - pic related.
Now I'm fighting hard to steer clear of that and stick with the pretties.
I'm glad to know it's not just me.

>>53349337
>protip it won't happen in our lifetimes
The collapse has already begun.
Unprecedented shit is the norm these days and debt-based monetary systems are looking more fragile all the time, the global population is tanking, there aren't going to be infinity debt slaves coming to pick up the boomers bags
The monetary system doesn't need to collapse immediately and all at once in order for silver to take off

I'm facing an odd situation frens.
I ordered antique (1760) silverware (4x forks 4x spoons) on ebay from a new seller. The order arrived, but it doesn't correspond AT ALL to the pictures and description of what i bought.

That said, there are more pros than cons : it's older, rarer items. They are monogrammed, the hallmarks are in great condition, and it's weighting more (40gr) than expected.
The con : the condition is far worse, especially the forks' tines who are all bent, and the spoons' bowls who are bent and dented.

Overall i think i'm happy with the deal, but i'd like to know what would you do in my situation. Should i try to haggle over the condition and the fact it's not matching the description at all?
How much would you ask (for ref. : i paid 420€ for 640gr -who ended up being 680gr) ?

I'll add few pics to illustrate my case. Pic rel are the spoons from the announce.

>>53350545
The forks.

>>53350545
Here's what i received instead.

>>53350545
the tines

>>53350701
Does the seller have other listings? Perhaps he just sent the wrong item.

The spoons i ended up with.

>>53350722
The bowls (hard to see on my pic, sorry)

>>53350719
No, it was his first sale and he doesn't have anything else in store. Shady stuff..

The royal hallmarks are incredibly well preserved, which is a big bonus!

>>53349477
first time hearing this one thanks

>>53349607
Show stack. Maybe I'll buy it.

>>53350212
Depends what you are trying to clean off the coin. Silver tarnish is best removed through electrochemistry.

>>53350250
Gold can and will be the international monetary standard. Silver might come along for the ride. I stack both.

oh good lord, theyre going to lose my coin, i just know it. those dumb mississippi postal niggers
dumb cunts

>>53350204
cant believe inside job was canceled

>>53347524
I know these feels.
I'm in late stage 2 status

>>53349863
10oz bars are pure kino

>>53350058
Based deep hole enjoyer

>>53350872
>he trusted USPS!

>ratio is a meme
>stack at 100:1
After becoming well stacked on both im starting to get indecision about which metal to stack - is adding some plat a good idea or just stick to au/ag?

>>53350872
I had some weird shit like that last week

>>53349065
Europe has been preparing for a return to the gold standard for decades https://seekingalpha.com/article/4358798-europe-preparing-global-gold-standard-since-1970s

>>53351241
So you're saying the entirety of Europe secretly wishes for the USA Empire and USD to die?

>>53347895
Where can a EUfag buy nazi coins?

>>53351258
theryre davos fucks. based jpow is doing battle with them right now.

What's the smallest amount of silver or gold I should buy at a time, frens? Also, what sites are you guys using? I made a sizable purchase from JM and I hear that their shipping can seriously fuck you under certain circumstances.

Presented without comment

>>53351258
>wrote to Paul Volcker regarding the gold issue that "the distribution of … world [gold] reserves would be highly inequitable, with eight wealthy countries getting three-fourths, while the developing countries would get less than 10 percent." The Europeans thought about this problem, and they helped solving it by equalizing gold reserves internationally.
The thing about returning to the gold standard is that you want reserves to ~match GDP as it is now to facilitate trade and avoid some shithole becoming immensely wealthy overnight. The eurozone have been distributing/storing gold accordingly for a long time and could transition very easily if (((no-one))) would have a hissy fit about them doing so

I got over 140oz of Silver
Sh...should I get more?
Should I wait?
I already ordered more guardians.

>>53351336
anything to get free shipping, usually $200. so right now a 10oz silver bar. i would really say a tube of rounds tho. gold can be had at low premium, *sometimes* those 5,10, or 20g bars are cost effective, but generally i would say 1oz of gold.

>>53351360
What variety of coins, fren? Thank you for your patience.

>>53351356
cute laughy
>Sh...should I get more?
bro

>>53351394
silver? just stack cheap generic whatever is the lowest price until you get some weight up. Gold? usually whatever sovereign coin your country mints. find bullion prices dot com will give you the cheapest whatever, use it, and learn the dealers prices.

>>53351394
Also, again, new and retarded, but I'm seeing tubes of 90% quarters for roughly $230, netting me ~7 troy ounces. I can get that in bars for $30 less. I know that part of stacking is sentimentality. Is that what you're getting with coins?

>>53351398
I know, shouldn't have needed to ask.

>>53351431
junk is wierd. it used to be cheap af, but now its some of the most expensive. People do buy it because its old and theyre not making it anymore, much of it has been melted down, and yes sentimentality. Schizos like it because its recognizable and divisible for barter scenarios.

>>53351431
Junk is fractional silver that is cheaper than fractional silver rounds and more recognizable. If 1oz becomes to valuable to buy anything small you will want fractional. Junk does that for you cheaper than bullion.

>>53347959
I like their casset wave feel. Definitely want to get more when I can.

>>53349065
Why is he saying that the price of gold is fixed and growth is impossible? Certainly the price of gold would float and become more/less valuable depending on demand for it. Ofc 1oz is always 1oz and you can't "price gold in itself" but what that buys you would fluctuate.

"Pshaw! You think you're gonna impress me with that little baby stacklette you got there? I can barely even see it!"

>>53351442
this is the way
>>53351831
i may be... have you see this btw? its so shinny....

>>53351870
does it feel as nice as it looks? i only got coins and bars that are smooth.

>>53351888
nice trips and yes it feels interesting. it feel even better covered in gobo juice

>>53347524
This is literally fucking me

Evening friends. An Anon in the last thread asked about the badge, no idea if it has any metals in it, I don't believe it does but it is older like 1950's I believe. Family heirloom I ended up with it from a relative

>>53351739
And as Gold became more valuable in times of demand people would "sell" - freeing up liquid cash to finance the growth which drove up demand in the first place. Or am I just completely off here?

>>53347524
I'm in the second phase of this timeline

Pic related, trying to find one of these for a semi decent price

>>53347609
Kooks are quite beautiful, yesterday a batch of the new ones came through my door

>>53351336
1 oz silver. If yoy cannot afford 1 oz of gold either go for the largest fractional you can or soveriegn coins.

>>53351739
>>53351959
Because massive deflation is what occurred when the gold standard was previously implemented. If you peg your currency to gold, it means 1 unit of currency = 1 unit of gold.

>>53347524

Buy a roll of cull silver maples and when you get them take them out and clink them together for like five whole minutes straight.

>>53349236
True, but if you can't beat them, join them. With at least some of your money.

>>53347524
I did this full cycle and now I’m back to stacking for weight only after ten years.

With all the money you've been literally burning on merc dimes you could have just been buying blowjobs.

>>53351360
>buying PM online
Enjoy confiscation. Please at least buy gift cards with cash and use those. DO NOT USE YOUR CHECKING ACC AT JPM

>>53351940
were you a detective in the 80s and did you look like this?

>>53352179
I bought my PM online but lost all of it in a tragic boating accident

>>53352222
Checked
No, badge is older than that

>>53352222
Modern roasties may not like it, but this what peak masculinity looks like.

>>53351336
I've never had an order take more than a week to get to me. And I don't think I have ever ordered under the free shipping amount which is 200.

>>53352067
Not true anon. Its one if those insipid lies gold standard fudders put out that looks true ay a surface level but falls apart under scrutiny.

The deflationary petiods were either the result of production growtyh exceeding monetary growth or in the case of the deflation from1873 to 1879 but that was entitely due to the US government removing the greenback from circulation.

During that "depression" there was deflation if 3% yet the economy grew 7% per year and real wages also rose which meant peoplr were enjoying a drastix increase to living stanfards.

>>53352179
My mom threw away my stack mistaking it for my decade old marble collection box and my dog ate some coins, shat all over the place and died

>>53352312
Or there’s the old “I sold all my stack at a loss in cash for drinking money. You see i got these pills man…”

>>53352312
>my dog ate some coins, shat all over the place and died
that sucks anon sorry about your pupper

>>53352312
It good you learn this leeson now, then later. Women are very expensive!

>>53352338
why didn't the doggo just poop the coin out like the dog from them movie 'a dogs purpose'

>>53348018
Because the silver marketing campaign over the last month or so was orchestrated to get retail to miss gold's next leg up driven by global monetary policy. Gold will break ATH soon and silver would be lucky to triple top. Why do you think central banks are hoarding gold and not silver? It's because silver doesn't matter.

>>53352239
>>53352312
You retards the feds are not going to care about that. Scream at them while they ransack your house. At least hide them well frens honest advice.

>>53347471
I only owned wagmi and apu coins for the luls
Started to buy silver in bulk and got a bunch of crypto related coins they were cheap on premiums too on apmex thoughts on these?
I know they don't really have any sign of authenticity like buffalos or government issued ones except that I know they're legit since apmex sold them. But what are your guys thoughts on them?
They look pretty sick in person

>>53349135
>if everyone returned to the gold standard, would that mean silver in our coinage again
Maybe. Silver would have to get repriced lower though. Melt value for a 90 percent quarter is around 4 dollars. Maybe a 5 percent silver quarter to maintain the current silver price but I don't see it.
>and turning fiat into silver/gold redemption notes/certificates?
Yeah this is what would likely happen in many countries.

>>53352375
it's da jo- I mean the triangles!

>>53347471
One of the best years

>>53352375
It was better with the original jew image

Dont know if this was posted in here already so i'll leave it here anyway.

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/high-profile-sound-money-bills-introduced-mississippi

>>53348018
Because silver doesn't have the whale investors Gold does, countries buy gold by the ton, the only thing silver has is shills, that try and selling their faggot rounds for premiums while shouting GSR from the hill tops while gold sits at record highs. Silver is a psyop to keep poor people from hoarding the only metal that maters. Silver is a historical joke compared to gold.

>>53347929
Nice Jappo 2 Bus.

>>53352375

>>53352424
My usual purchases are one of many different designs and get to at least free shipping. As it happens, I bought some hoity-toity Bitcoin-themed round minted by Anonymous Mint (*not* our local AnonymintPM guy) as a nod to the existence of ecoin. Woweee... it even came with a COA.
As for stacking... meh. There are much prettier designs, and I prefer coins, really.

>>53352797
Stop treating silver as if it's not important when it is. Unlike gold, silver is more liquid in small day to day payments. Try and pay for a loaf of bread with a flake of gold, that's how shit it is at that level. That's its use in a sound money system, and if it starts to explode in value, then you work down to copper.

>>53353014
>Try and pay for a loaf of bread with a flake of gold
Kek... try and pay for a loaf of bread with a non-demoninated piece of silver.

>>53353014
Should I coppermaxx and buy a few meme bricks of copper?

>>53348493
>>53348653
Your coins look cleaned now. There are clear hairlines all over them now when you compare the two pictures

>>53353032
Your argument is shit because Venezuela isn't a country with a sound economy. In a nation with a sound money system you would want to avoid the need to cut up metals.

>>53353042
Not really. It's pointless now when we're not in a state where silver is going beyond its use of small priced purchases.

>>53353061
>Your argument is shit because Venezuela isn't a country with a sound economy.
Your argument is shit because ours does have a sound economy. So what's your point about using silver? It doesn't work.
Unless you mean some dystopian future, likw... Venezuela has. Where they use... gold flakes.

>>53353042
>Should I coppermaxx and buy a few meme bricks of copper?
Unsure. I'm a fan of diversification, Cu included. But Cu bars (which carry the highest premiums and have more than doubled in the past decade) are currently priced pretty high.
Here's my current info on where to buy, if at all.
>>53350265

>>53353079
>Your argument is shit because ours does have a sound economy.
What sound money?

>>53347524

>>53353104
You can still use money to buy bread.
You haven't shown that you can use flakes or pieces of silver to buy bread. People have no idea what the fuck silver is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYhTFz_SGw0 (10 ozt Ag or Hersheys bar)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgUxF7gvYeE (1/10th ozt Au coin or Snickers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8qGDun4puM (100 ozt)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndshbH3qZ6Y ($50 Au coin for $25?)
Go ahead and try. I'll wait...

>>53353014
Exactly how I think of silver is how an MMO would, like for example once you reach 99 silver coins it becomes a whole gold coin. I can just trade in my silver for a gold ounce once I reach a high amount there really shouldn't be a vs what's better their charts look almost identical except on a day trading scale but that shouldn't matter too much

>>53353141
Those people are in for a harsh future. They will have nothing and be chemically induced happy.

Not going to lie, I really want to stack gold. It generally seems to retain its value during inflation, and I like how it shines. But this is the only reason I'm hesitant: https://theprint.in/opinion/giant-asteroid-has-gold-worth-700-quintillion-but-it-wont-make-us-richer/260482/

I just can't press the 'submit order' button

>>53353198
True.

>>53353141
This sounds harsh but I don't really care for the opinion of the average normie who will have zero things to offer to me in terms of food or items to sell. I have seen all of these videos before and they are excellent at showing people's ignorance. Mark was ahead of his time.
With enough fear these people also can be persuaded of absolutely anything within a few months. When Russia was having its usual issues they paid teachers in vodka for a time out in Siberia. They evidently got by OK for the time being, and vodka is pretty inconvenient compared to silver or gold.
People and companies that have things I want to buy are smart enough to find a way to do business and make money if USD becomes a bad option. The rest are sheep that will get swept along, no different than today.
I agree that I don't know about the viability of using flakes of silver, that's why we have stuff like silver dimes and copper cents.

>>53353141
>You can still use money to buy bread.
Why are you talking about today instead of the role silver will have along side gold in a western financial collapse? You know, this is the debate here, when fiat becomes worthless.

My latest order came in. Love me some Krugerrands.
>>53353248
There is zero doubt in my mind that humanity will eventually mine asteroids. But if you think it's happening soon enough to to be of financial relevance to us, you're retardedly optimistic. Also, when we do start mining asteroids, the primarily focus will be for water ice and iron.

>>53353141
Those people are being cold approached by a stranger on the street with a camera, while some don't know anything about gold or silver I think just as many think they are about to be scammed/tricked/pranked for view, one lady even questions if the chocolate is real. I wonder how many people they didn't show saying yes to the gold and silver or just straight telling him to fuck off that they edited out so he doesn't look like a fool.

>>53353267
>find a way to do business and make money if USD becomes a bad option
I agree. But that isn't really what Anon was saying, even when asked to clarify. It's either use money now and silver is useless as trade, or hope (?!) for a dystopian, Russian/Venezuelan future when ... as we see... metals (gold,in Vz.) can be used.
So stacking is cool, but silver may not be the .. um... silver bullet of financial problems.

>>53353302
>Why are you talking about today
Seriously? Are we going to have to start all over?
>>53353014
>silver is more liquid
>silver is
>IS
>>53353061
>Your argument is shit because Venezuela isn't a country with a sound economy.

>>53353141
Honestly its exactly because I know the value of silver that I'd take the chocolate bar.
There's obviously gonna be a catch to a fucking 100oz silver bar.

>>53353333
Quads checked.
Good points. I've also wondered if truly no-one has chosen the metal and if so, did Mike really give it up?
Dunno. All I have to go by is the video. I recon I could try it myself, but... I'm not that rich.

>>53353248
>asteroid-has-gold-worth-700-quintillion
You got baited, they now think it's now just all iron with a metallic coating, they do this shit all the time for funding, and hype.
https://interestingengineering.com/science/asteroid-psyche-700-quintillion

>>53353342
That's why you play stupid and ask to handle the 100oz bar. Once it's in your hands, thank the man and walk away.

>>53353339
It IS in comparison to gold due to the size vs price. Fucking hell anon have you ever looked at a GSR chart?

>>53353141
All this does is confirm whay we all already knew. Most people are retarded

>>53353395
Well, someone has to become the new slave and peasant classes.

>>53353395
True.
And I was trying to impress that upon the Anon who insists that silver can be used now to buy bread. I say it can't. Then I speculated he meant a dystopian future, like Venezuela has - but they use gold.

>>53353382
Oh so now we're switching to theory.
Okay, you win.

>>53353356
I mean if I approached you on the street and started trying to trade you a gold coin or 100oz silver bar for your coffee mug you would be skeptical as hell and assume its a scam. This guy is stacking the odds and hamming it up to make people suspicious, sure some are dumb but he is intentionally coming off as scammy. Without an unedited version of these vids I dont trust them any more than I would any other day time dating show. This is just made for clicks and for validation so stackers can be all "see i knew i was smart and everyone else is dumb". Its disingenuous.

>>53353248
Do you ever question why the media pushes stories of large deposits of gold being found worth trillions of dollars, and yet the price of gold still continues to trend up? This shit happens all the time, they found a new gold mountain worth x, or a near asteroid worth x, and yet gold continues to sit at all time highs.

>>53353430
I'm not switching anything, this is what I have been talking about all along. Silver is the common man's money and in a fiat financial collapse it is what the common man will use for day to day goods because it's just that much easier to handle compared to carrying flakes of gold for transactions. It's not my fault that you were unable to understand my argument, what else was would it have been if not that.

>>53353438
I understand, and I agree, and I don't have the resources to perform my own experiment.
But I'm fairly confident that if I were offered a bar of silver or gold, I'd at least have some idea of what to look for or ask. I'll bet you would too. Heck, in one of those videos he even points to the coin store *right there* where they can have it checked out, and they refuse.

>>53353459
>Silver is the common man's money
And I'm saying it's not, and I'm pointing out you can't just walk into a store and *per your example* buy a loaf of bread.
Then you say in a future collapse. I point out that Venezuela is there, and note they're using gold.
And then you bring up GSR. ?!?!
Fine. You win.

tfwno pol coin

>>53353502
It's like having an argument with a black person and they say Muh Dik, only they say Muh GSR.

I'm not sure why polymetal's been pumping recently, but I like it.

>>53353502
Are you a moron or a troll anon?

>>53353532
Ah. We've regressed to the name calling.Aaannnd we're done.

>>53347524
>buying basicslly the only physical goods that hold their value and adjust for inflation
>how will i ever financially recover from this??
just sell them anon

>>53353539
So you're a troll. Right, that makes sense. I mean you just stack shiny rocks because they're shiny, right. Not because they hold wealth unlike fiat shit in a fiat crash, right.

>>53350080
By 'they' do you mean Geiger? I don't know. The one ozt I bought was back in 2014.
But yes, other vendors sell in blister packs (or did). Silvertowne and Pandas were two others I know for sure.

>>53353502
The problem a on is your arguing against 6000 years of established record. Silver was used as money when boomers were teenagers.

>>53352424
I’ve got some of those & think they’re pretty slick
>>53353327
I do like Krugerrands without milk spots

Just got one of these beautiful things and the 2017 version loose for a couple dollars over spot. The seller didn’t know what he had, he was selling his dad’s things and asked me to name a price, so I just checked spot price, showed him and said “you tell me”, he offered $15 since it’s “pre owned” lmao I don’t think he understands the metal value. I felt bad about ripping the guy off so I gave him a little more but I’ve had them tested at my LCS and they’re real.
>(pic related) isn’t mine

>>53350913
I never watched it beyond clips on YouTube but the girl was hot. Hence why I made two memes with her in 2021 A.D.
Guess you'll have to stick with season 17 of bigmouth anon.
>>53352424
This is as boomer as the boomer round.
>>53353248
No no no anon.
>gold standard now would make gold worth 53k per ozt, the common man being priced out of even an ounce
>intergalactic gold standard in 2200 after we mine asteroids will make it to where all 14 billion people on earth, all 800 million on mars, and all 500 million on venus will be able to own a few ounces of gold if they work hard enough

The amount of seething against silver today is off the charts

Just wanted to show the results of last night’s explosion. For some reason the jannies deleted my post. Feel free to ask me about what happened if y’all are curious.

Lego piece for my sister’s boyfriend. A belated Christmas gift. A little rougher than I would’ve liked but all in all it turned out better than I expected.

This is made of something a bit more fine than sterling but not by much. I used scrap jewelry and a few .999 rounds.

>>53353520
If someone can make a 3d .stl file of this with deep recesses then I could make it with the enameling, though the shadowing would be beyond my capability.

>>53353893
You did extremely well. Love the detail

>>53353893
That's brilliant!
Is this solid, or did you somehow retain the stube and gaps in the bottom?

>>53353893
Really well done. There's no way he won't be impressed if he's a lego fan. Be more careful with the process though. Easy to lose eyesight or get gruesome burns that can put your life at risk.

wtfwt gold bros

>>53354591
I’m thinking we’re back. (Knock on wood)

>>53354177
Thanks!
>>53354206
Stube is solid sterling (probably a bubble formed as it was facing downward when I poured the investment) but the gaps are mostly formed. When I tumbled it in my rock tumbler with steel shot it filled with the shot.
>>53354348
I have genetically excellent eyesight and I’m extremely paranoid about molten silver burns, so I’m careful to plan all my moves when I go to pour. I appreciate the concern. I’ll use your words as motivation to take even greater care.

>>53353893
Looking good sirs. Your sister's bf is a lucky guy.

>>53354591
Cheapies gone forever. We are done.

>>53350266
3 years too late I’m afraid

>>53355014
Bobo pls come soon.
I went out last night to an Italian restaurant in London and it was packed. Where do the goyim get so much money to spend in the middle of January? There were a lot of poos, as is expected in Britbongostan.

>>53353141
I’d like to see him try with black people
>”dat gol man? Hey yo lemme get that chain nigga”
>stabs him
>takes the snickers

>>53354591
I don't have much gold but with a little more than an ounce, I feel good still.

>>53355397
Poorfag.

>>53350212

>>53354591
Basel 3 rules went into effect jan 1. It's much harder to trade(suppress) gold now.

>>53356002
do we really expect the kikes to follow the rules

>>53353059
Some of it is because lighting and angle, picrel in daylight. I tried not to remove too much metal mysilf but yeah, they were among the worst of the batch and already rotting anyway. In general, I do like to get all the organic dirt off all my coies, though. Technically this is called restoration instead of cleaning (which removes surface layer metal), I think. But I'm no expert or anything. Numismatics isn't really my autism. I just like shiny. Also, I think it actually looks interesting how some of the copper shines through where the green gunk used to be. I guess that's the damage it does to the coin.

>>53356088
The euros have to let gold rise, it's their only hope

>>53353893
Impressive block, did you also get the bottom right so it can be used in a construction?
Is there shrinkage of the material that would make it hard to get it plastic-compatible?

>>53350343
the highest premium I try to stick to is 100% (usually buying reichmarks at those prices..)
other than that I stick to junk and the occasional kilo

I have a question:

I am thinking about picking up a 2023 Britannica because it's the last year with Lizardbeth on them. Should I get it? I will have to pay 60€ on top if I get that one over a random year. Should I do it because it will be worth it in the long run or should I get random year or a Krug?

>>53355282
Today I learnt about Gordon Brown, this literal nigger loving kike, sold Bongland's 60% of gold reserves. He should be executed in public.

>>53356300
Why can't you think for yourself

>>53356300
Go with random year, it's pretty likely you'll get a 2023 with Lizzy anyway.

>>53351348
A real gold standard doesn't involve holding gold in reserve. Gold CIRCULATES! That means a country that happens to have or produce a lot of gold uses it to buy imported goods from more productive countries so the gold flows out - much like dollars have been flowing into China. The difference is that the USA can print more dollars to fill the gap while gold cannot be printed so eventually it runs out and then the country needs to produce goods and services to trade for gold to get back in the game. All the talk about balancing gold reserves is irrelevant in a true gold standard where gold actually circulates and moves into private hands rather than bank/government hands.

>>53356300
Get random year or get a krug. Anon, gold maxx, when SHTF, nobody is going to remember Lizardbeth.

>>53356300
I'd get one, it's not a huge premium, and the security features of the coin make sense, random year is also fine but €60 doesn't really hurt.
Will personally also get one with the new face in addition when it comes out.

Krug is a better coin to play with though, pure gold doesn't sound as nice and is softer, but as additional options to a Krug I'd also look at the 100 Kronen, Centenario etc. as finger-friendly options.

>>53353014
this, the suppression has gone on so long that when silver does take off the run will be shocking to many stackers who know
I am looking forward to grabbing a quarter off my pile of junk and paying for a weeks groceries

>>53353248
if and when space mining becomes a thing it will happen slowly
buy and sell when space ships actually bring back their first 1/10th oz

>>53352797
>>53353521
filthy kike

>>53356344
I am trying to but I'd like some input on if anons think that the last year with the queen might have some collector's value.

>>53356345
Yeah, maybe it will be more common than I think.

>>53356351
I already have a Krug but damn it's a really nice coin and stacking five on those on top of each other looks and feels so good.

>>53356357

Yeah, if I get just one it would not hurt much. The security feature is nice indeed. Looks very nice.

And with Krugs - they are just awesome in so many ways, I wish I had not just one but 5. Gotta buy all the south African gold.

My favourite gold coins are American gold eagles tho. I have a 2022 one, with the new design, really pretty.

>>53353893
nice, your wifes boyfriend will be very happy

>>53356357
>pure gold doesn't sound as nice and is softer
Yeah but the annealing process used by mints makes the gold really hard. It's not like normal 24k that you can bend up with hand strength

>>53356454
I would not fuck around with that coin anyway. It's gold after all...

>>53356415
I know what you mean, I do it with my kilo bars, stacking them one on top of another, like 5 bars and lifting it all at once in one hand is really nice and trippy.

>>53356493
There used to be a guy in pmg that would post his bent up pamp swiss bars

>>53356520

>bent up pamp swiss bars

Why, just why? That should be a crime

>>53347471
I don't feel that I have anything to contribute to these threads because the practical advice I took comprises "buy gold and silver" and that's it.
Do you recommend platinum?

>>53356611
This is an image board, post your stack

>>53350739
>No, it was his first sale and he doesn't have anything else in store. Shady stuff..

The pieces certainly have more wear but don't look too horrible, the hallmarks are indeed quite nice. Since it was a new seller I assume he wasn't very organized and accidentally sent you a set that he hadn't listed for sale yet, maybe he had his wife pack it for shipment and she grabbed the wrong set. I think it was an honest error, but if you feel like it you definitely have grounds to request a discount. It looks like the set shown in the pictures may only have been monogrammed on the reverse of the handle with those small "NM" or WN" letters, and if they don't have monograms on the front side they would be more valuable to people who want to old silver to use. Since the set you got was in worse condition and if the set you thought you purchased wasn't monogrammed on the front then you have a good argument for either getting a partial refund, or arranging to buy the set you won at a discount. He may be very anxious to please you since he's a new seller and would have his reputation ruined by a bad feedback.

I won this batch the other day, not as old as your pre-revolution French stuff but it has a couple pieces of nice American coin silver which I've become quite fond of, I really like the babby mustard ladle spoons. I suspect it's around 120g of sterling and .900 coin silver, I paid $34.85 total (used more CC goypoints so only $14.85 out of pocket). Will report back upon arrival. Happy hunting down the antique cheapies frogfren.

>>53356620
Nice try, officer.

>>53356632
>No stack
Many such cases. Sad!

>>53353502
Please don't challenge anons' beliefs. Stackers (especially silver stackers) believe in a tale of the past and a prediction of an apocalyptic future. Much like simple-minded religious folk, their beliefs, as daffy as they sound and as fallable as they are proven, are sacred to them. That's why challenging their beliefs is treated as heresy, and the stackers get defensive and lash out.

>>53350872
liberty coin buyer eh, which on sale coin did you buy? Sov?

>>53356759
Saint

Anyone bought from Acheter-or-argent before? I'm scouting out for some coins to buy when gold inevitably dips again, and they seem to have some decently low premiums on historical gold coins, and the supply on celtic gold seems to be drying up. They're trust-pilot score isn't quite impeccable, so any tales of previous experience would be appreciated.

>>53352179
Listen, fudfag, Physical PMs are the LEAST confiscatable asset there is, with the exception of a gun if you have it in hand and are ready and willing to use it..

>>53357036
Yes. Got 2 toobs of Krugs from them. Took a while to ship but no problems otherwise, and that was during the fuel snafus last year. Their website looks archaic but functions perfectly well.

>>53352404
Such bullshit on several levels. There will NEVER be a house to house confiscation of PMs. First of all, there is no reason for a government that has much bigger problems to chase after minor quantities of widely distributed PMs. Second, the cost in blood would be unacceptable. Cops are not going to die for some silly economic scheme they don't understand. And there will never be enough Federal agents to do much of anything without local law enforcement. Third, but not finally, the moment a confiscation were to get started, PMs would vanish into a million holes in the ground. Making PMs illegal will be even less effective than the War on Drugs because PMs can't be detected with dogs.

So shove it up your ass, fudfag. You are not anyone's friend.

>>53348735
>Chinese flag has 'china' written on it because americans wouldn't know otherwise

Canadians have woken up

>>53357148
OMG it does. KEK.

>>53356696
Tales of the past that have had the same theme for three thousand years carry weight with thinking men.

>>53353248
>goyslop "news" article
you have dog-like benevolence or are just plain naive if you believe this propaganda and think we're really gonna be mining on an asteroid in our lifetime

>>53357148
lol

oh shit dump is commencing

>>53357229
So true. Redpilled thinking men know the great rebalancing of the GSR is soon to be upon us, thus fulfilling the prophecy. As before so will be again.

>>53351241
Doesnt that chart show the US having higher percentage gold reserve than any country in europe

>>53357414
I don't know about the GSR, but I know gold and silver have been money since the invention of money. Every scam that deviated was short-lived. The current scam is near the end of its lifecycle.

>>53353061
>>53353079
Both of your arguments are shit. Both can be used. Goldbacks are a small fractional of gold that can be used instead of "flakes" and silver can be used because of how wide spread it is. But in the end digits currency will be the standard because it is easy and people are used to it.
If you looked in everyone's wallet you came across you would find very little fiat, you would find less PM's but on each of them you would find a piece of plastic that has a number giving them access to their "money" and maybe another one that gives them access to someone else's "money".
Metals have a place and it's as a diversified investment, collecting, SHTF, and bartering/trading, and as a global standard of value.

>>53353893
excellent work anon!

so tempting to sell right now even selling just 1oz but luckily i'm not desperate for cash

>>53357763
I'm thinking about selling about 2oz or more. Just to buy some more interesting stuff. Gold has just marched up the last few months. No pullback, no consolidation, it feels over bought.

>>53356251
Alas, no. I think legos flex a bit when you put them together and this sterling is surprisingly rigid. I made about six of these with my 3d printer and found that the studs came out somewhat malformed and was unable to affix them to one another.
>>53355006
Thanks for your kind words.
>>53357681
Appreciate it, panman!

I’ll be working on KEK frogs again this weekend. Stay tuned!

>>53352179
Where else am I supposed to get silver with low premium?

>>53357585
hard to envisage scale

>>53358004
Dont mind him, just buy wherever, these governments wont be around for much longer, its why they are acting so aggressive, they have to as they know their system is falling apart and they will lose control, has happened millions of times throughout history and is happening on a global scale right now.

>>53357115
I tend to agree with your points but if the price of PM really does skyrocket to enormous levels (as some people here believe) then yes they will spend time and energy on confiscation.

>>53353861
>1pbtID

>>53358439
They'll just tax the fuck out of them

>>53358497
>1pbtID

>>53358439
Why would they need to confiscate it if they can just mine more of it?
It's just so much safer to send the agents into the mines to dig it up.

>>53358439
Why confiscate PM when you already know who owns real estate and you can just tax them more?

>>53356300
I would get a king charles britt for 2023 might have more value in the long run than a elizabeth cunt queen whos been on coins for the last 70 years

>>53359208
why brit instead of sovereign? sovereigns seem more collectable and easier to sell later because of smaller denomination

>>53358439
I don't think it's going to be preppers vs feds. I think most of the feds will stop showing up to work when they realize that the government has run out of money and is giving them IOUs that it never intends to pay back, and the ones remaining won't be the high IQ types.

Can anyone explain what JM Bullion means by "secondary market condition"?

Can anyone explain what JM Bullion means by "secondary market condition"?

>>53359695
Here's a pic of the 1 ozt bar.

>>53359695
I bought a bar from them with a warning that they were arriving from the mint with dings in them. Believe JM when they say you're going to get a scratched up/worn "secondary market" item.

>>53359729
Thanks -

Also, I just read what I took the time post (why do I read stuff only *after* I post?). It seems it means they didn't buy from the manufacturer. Which means dings possible.
It also implies everything else they buy comes direct from the mints. That's an interesting tidbit.

>>53359405
I would say get both. Get a double sovereign 2022 jubilee with the queen for collectible, (Double sovereigns are a 1/2 ounce of gold) ..then get 1/2 once gold brittania of 2023 King charles. That gives you one ounce of gold and a nice variety

NEW THREAD

>>53359790

>>53358439
When PMs are remonetized, the US government will be struggling just to keep the lights on in the Capitol. It's agents, who cannot even keep up with existing projects without local law enforcement, will not have the slightest opportunity for or interest in going on a wild goose chase where the geese are well-armed and pissed off.

>>53352375
Use the chinese symbol for merchant

>>53360026
>>53352375
商人
The symbol is a guy rubbing his hands kek

>>53358793
Kek.

>>53353790
>you'll have to stick with season 17 of bigmouth anon.
no

New thread available...
>>53361818
>>53361818
>>53361818