/biz/ - Business & Finance

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>53231130

START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>AlphaBay
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market #
>Cloud Market #
>Dark Matter #
>Darkmoon #
>FilthyFellas
>Mellow Market #
>Retro Market #
Onion links: https://pastebin.com/raw/Ttnew9Yb


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Kilos
>Majestic Bank
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/wVZ4mdDe


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.
http://pokerggxmrvzecuo6afhucjwdljuve5eoavxdxdr6zedyejd6mvz5wad.onion

>XMR Poker
http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

Reporting in
####################################
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

Geopolitics specialists got rekt.
Lucky for me that I sold everything days before bitcoin started its moon mission.
Feels so good to be a normie.

alphabay down?
i cant connect

>>53278370
>gay id
also lol Monero has climbed on the ratio since the beginning of the bear market.

tfw you cut out the part of the chart where we 2x against bitshit

>STATUS CHECK
Still an infinite supply shitcoin kek

I'm not exactly a regular here but I'm surprised there's not more Nagatoro posting considering that the S2 is airing this season.

>>53279195
so is gold

>>53277880
BUT DOES IT HAVE SMART CONTRACTS?

>>53279454
yes smart people are using it to exchange goods and services

lads when are we going to defeat evil

>>53279488
the outcome was predetermined

>>53278370
so what gave you the premonition that this would happen?

>>53278567
is i2p the future of the dnm?

>>53280085
The guys at Dread certainly think so
https://old.reddit.com/r/DreadAlert/comments/101tqq3/january_3rd_happy_new_year_were_still_here/

Reminder: Tails emissions means we are all going to make it, together.
The maxitards, the Zcringe troons, the taxman, russians, ukranians, jews, and niggers. Nobody will be left behind, nobody will miss the train irrevocably.

>>53279195
And you're still a wagie earning an infinite supply shitcoin called the dollar. Make my burger, Benchod.

>>53279238
All versions were done by hand, for better or for worse.

Virgin general.

I'm married to these bags of salty coins, that's for sure

Excuse me, what's the size of the blockchain currently? Thanks

>>53281356
>>53281444
>>53281483
combo breaker

>>53281483
147.5GB

>>53280085
Unless tor finds a way to deal with DDOS then I am going to have to say yes. Fucking glow niggers.

>>53277880
Everest chan is coming to KYC you

>>53283192
everchan kyc me uwu

>>53277880
We're really missing the bullrun again

>>53278567

yes, it is.

BUT, their i2p link works, and if you've made enough purchases they give you a private onion link, which still works

I'm a 29 year old boomer and I guess I'll have to learn what i2p is

>>53283450
Similar to tor, slightly harder to set up and less used than tor but solves a lot of problems with it.

Does anyone want/need riseup invites? Buy my shit on moneromarket, username cockliuser

>>53283718
Won't your account get banned from Riseup if you're found that you sell invites?

>>53283730
Multiple accounts lol, all setup to farm invites

What's riseup? Looks like some blm charity fund scam or something

fuck riseup and all those antifa faggots

i'd rather use gmail and publicly post my pw

>>53283500
maybe later it will be easy to set up

>>53284129
It's a "collective run service" for commies
Invites are pretty rare to find
They have a policy where you must verify that the person you give an invite to is a communist
Unfortunately for them and fortunately for you I don't really care if you're a commie or not, just give me $10 and you get the invite
>trollface.png

>>53284695
why would anyone want a commie mail address though?

>whonix
>monero wallet preinstalled
>tails
>no monero wallet preinstalled
why?

>>53285164
This, too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/i2p/comments/yqnary/i2p_based_live_os/

>>53285076
These particular commies (allegedly) don't parse your emails to sell to advertisers, and they're free afaik

>>53285386
not very free if the entrance fee is an invite that i can only get by paying 10 bucks or sucking off some blm nigger so he can vouch that i am politically aligned enough to warrant an invite. fuck this shit

DIST is a better moonie moon token than shit monero

>>53283450
>>53283500
>>53284656

http://geti2p.net/en/blog/post/2023/01/13/i2p_easy_install_for_windows_2.1.0

all you need is the Easy Install i2p.exe and a new Firefox profile, it's easier than it seems fr fr, if you can buy crypto you can set this stuff up on your computer.

It says on the site that if "you want to mine to a pool or mine with a GPU, you'll need dedicated software. Miners supporting Monero:

XMRig
CSminer"

I have a dual gpu 12 year-old laptop. Should I try these alternatives? I don't even know what they entail

Divegrass bros, we're back for the last time this weekend with /xmr/ this time up against /ring/ Fit Adventure. We're third up today and should be on around 18:10 Euro time and 14:10 EST. Janny-proof link for a change below, also at the anon that was trying to figure out the chat after the match yesterday if; you need to register and save a username to access most of the chat functions and team flare but no email or anything else is required. The only real purpose of hosting it ctyube is just so we can have an uncensored, unmoderated chat without YT or other service jannies banning us.

https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html

>>53286737
I assume you're using the built-in miner for the official wallet?

XMRig works great for me. Keep in mind that you won't really get much from mining with your GPU, I only get about 1kh/s from my 2070 Super.

>>53277880

Anons your participation needed, post advices and monerochans

Global Hyperinflation General /GHG/ >>>/pol/412299333

>>53286737
XMRig is an optimized monero miner.

I recommend trying out gupax (gui that connects XMRig with p2pool, a decentralized mining network with frequent payouts). As always, dyor about this before you download.

>>53287077
Link for gupax: https://github.com/hinto-janaiyo/gupax

>>53286336
Another benefit for you if you aren't a commie is that you get access to their commie mailing lists to troll all day long
They have a lot of lists lol
https://lists.riseup.net/www/
Also 10 bucks? That's like below minimum wage my nigga

>>53277961
>Irrational exuberance
That's a great video too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZJIpTIPnRs

/xmr/ lads, we're liv now

https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html

>>53287936
there's a saying in my country:
if you don't value the smallest amount of money you are not worth the largest amount.

i don't throw around my money for shit i don't need. i also value my time (apart from browsing 4chan) more than to waste it on trolling retarded people.

Nice win!
Maybe couple of player suggestions:
McAfee
David Kim
Eternal crab character
Bimbonero
Some vice city style cocaine dealer
Maybe some murica style freedom character or some parody on the "you will own nothing and be happy" guy

Why does monero community hate on bitcoin so much when the actual enemy of proof of work decentralized cryptocurrency as cash (xmr) is big tech monopolies from the 20th century and early 21st century? The cast of ripple executives and their past, marc andressen and his shit tokens, facebook marketplace. They all want to be the bank in their walled garden and their shit coins as their dollar. XSG even mentions how established tech giants went through SEC lawsuits and thats what made them big so XRP is going to get big by default. They have endless pockets from garbage products to play bitcoin FUD and lesser extent xmr FUD. The point of technology like xmr is that you could spend it on drugs if your into that or sell other stuff locally with no user account some company controls.

>>53288236
I don't hate Bitcoin, I hate the people who hijacked it.

>>53288198
McAfee was a /biz/ player at some point I think, might try and dig out the model if it still exists. I'm already kicking myself a bit I didn't put Fluffy, POOMPA and Wownero on the roster until after the deadline for submissions passed. Monero Extremist is kind of the coke dealer, but I'm gonna make some changes to the player model to reflect it for future competitions. Probably going to make a custom ball for the team as well. The full roster is here; https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//xmr/

But we're good for this week and in a good position for the final weekend and might avoid the playoff round entirely. Thanks to the anons that tuned in

>>53288282
This really. BTC used to be what XMR is now and stand for the same but it's been too heavily co-opted by boomers, corporate miners and institutional investors and the carpetbag full of shit they all bring with them. Combined with the intentional flaws BTC has in being fully traceable and the lack of ASIC resistance you can patch it all you like with upgrades to correct it's flaws but it'll still never be a complete fix only plasters on a growing list of problems. This is mostly why XMR is the best alternative now, we don't have these fundamental issues and only need to keep it updated and moving with user demands and the usual upgrades you'd expect to improve security, reduce gas fees and increase speed and efficiency.

>>53288198
>>53288366
Also the "Sell" girl.

>>53288482

Her name is Menora Lisa.

>>53288366
Just finished watching the first one, will watch the second later. xmr chan was kicking ass, 2 goals.

>>53289070
I'm not sure what's going on with the VOD guy at the moment because he's been kinda dead since Christmas. Normally he uploads them overnight after the day's stream is done but he's pretty intermittent right now so if we find a workaround I'll update you if. Also might consider setting up a burner YT account just for /xmr/ match highlights because this isn't going to be the only time /xmr/ appears and will probably appear in other non-board specific invitationals in future.

We're also considering running a /biz/ hosted invitational tournament in future with signups open to anyone with a /biz/-themed team or idea. Although that probably won't happen this year and is subject to having enough board interest and manager/team signups.

>>53289177
the /pmg/ vs /smg/ derby would be great

>>53288236
>Why does monero community hate on bitcoin
more like disappointment

>>53288236
I decided to open up an old btc wallet just to see if i cleaned it out or not. It's taken me about 1 hour to sync 5 months of blockchain. 60 more to go.
It's literally unusable.

>>53289227
This is exactly why the idea came up, there's some great potential with some of the generals we've got on /biz/ and a couple of people already that expressed an interest in making certain teams or helping set things up or streaming a /biz/ Cup or /biz/ League or whatever format we run it as.

Until the 2017-18 crypto bullrun the /biz/ roster in the main cup was mostly just /smg/ and /pmg/ memes and meta jokes so they're almost certain to be given priority if anyone signs them up.

>>53288482
>>53288661
>>53288685

Why the fuck is FTX is worth something and why is it +60%?

>>53289177
No worries, there were 2 up when I checked, and watched the first match. Second to be enjoyed in a while.
Monero song submission: https://invidious.epicsite.xyz/watch?v=0RfaVsfWZL8

>>53289672
>Why the fuck is FTX is worth something and why is it +60%?

>>53289681
It's already in our team music as the default goalhorn for most players and XMR-chan, but the streamer keeps hitting the XMR Chad one instead. I'm gonna add some stuff and reformat the music export so it gets played though.

If you know any 30 second clips or quotes though that's really appreciated at the moment.

>>53289792
>If you know any 30 second clips or quotes though that's really appreciated at the moment.

The McAfee interview has some good ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnKrMKo_WlU

Are there any news regarding regulation since the tornado cash incident?

>>53289960
Thanks, I'm gonna see what clips I can get from that one. It also looks like our next fixture is going to be against /cops/ so this gonna be fun to ramp up the anti-fed anti-law enforcement shitposting.

>>53289305
Send me some if you have any lol.

46B9GzbXs2EctP7dZUPx85Tyor5ptiFHoRSASbrYVTzCA12o79g1jzcgYxZD2m9rpXdqoLH2RQ1vhZFK84oVKr3o5P1YZvH

>>53289305
Tell me how it goes on session too

052340665cb21c0fcc11fadc1954804b899ad13d56fcda3e17d7d4ecb58294782e

>>53282635
my output between the p2pool coinbase outputs

Anything that isn't PoW is a scam.
Anything that isn't ASIC resistant is a scam.

I need monero to drop to 50 dollars in exactly 6-12 months so I can get 100 monero

>>53285164
because tails is less competent than whonix when it comes to cryptocurrencies. I'd also argue that they're more competent in general but tails isn't exactly bad.

>>53288236
>Why does monero community hate on bitcoin so much
because bitcoin is controlled opposition and serves only to act as a trial run for CBDCs. It solves nothing and soon will be used for nothing once it's only real market falls. I hate bitcoin just like I hate VPNs, they are a false sense of security and FAIL to provide what they claim. Equivalently, Monero and Tor provide what they claim and I respect them.

>>53290617
I'd say that's more ETH and PoS in general that's trying to do that and push how dystopian they can get away with being while people still buy it as a test for CBDCs. But then BTC is becoming centralised by mining pools and whales with malicious intentions that it might as well end up the same way if institutional investors keep buying up the supply. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's controlled opposition while there's still at least a decent part of the supply in the hands of early adopters that believed in what it used to stand for but in the longer term I wouldn't have any hope for it whatsoever. The next five years though will most likely be an attempt to kill it or minimalise it to irrelevance at the expense of PoS chains before the hard push to force as many people as possible into using CBDCs.

private my ass
how do I buy without forking over personal info

>>53290833
you can't. just use localmonero or something.
But it's not like the coins you get will be tainted or anything like with bitcoin, it's just that they will have a record somewhere that you bought X amount of monero and withdrew it

>>53290833
Use a dex
Kycnot.me
Orangefren.com
trocador.app

>captcha MRAXM

>>53291049
Those aren't dexes, they're centralized but don't require signup. Orders of magnitude better than KYC especially if you use http://trocadorfyhlu27aefre5u7zri66gudtzdyelymftvr4yjwcxhfaqsid.onion/

another option, buy cpus, mine

buy some other coin, transfer to tradeogre

Okay, so like a blockchain is just like a linked list with cryptography involved, right?
And kyc is gay and dumb because it lets fedniggers track chad schizos like us, right?
And the big exchanges (coin base) doesn’t have xmr bc they’re glowies?

And so I should download an xmr wallet (or buy a ledger) and store it there using one of the non kyc services to buy?
And I should slurp up as much xMr as possible? Is ehtereum still good? Btc? I’m a lazy nigger, but xmr is the one that seems legit to me and I’ve done any amount of research on (still new).
How “diverse” should my crypto collection be? I hear no more than 15 or so different coins, ideally less, but the temptation overwhelms when I see something that looks good and I throw $50 at it.

>>53277880
Bros, were getting those sats back. Riiiiite?

>>53292164
>download wallet on secure system (Linux highly encouraged) or buy hw wallet
>create your wallet, backup your seed (many people store it in a password manager like KeePass or stamp it into metal and hide it, just don't store it on an online service or something)
>if you're concerned about scrutiny from Big Brother, buy anonymously via LocalMonero or similar
>if not, you can use KYC services like Kraken
I don't care about other coins, so I won't advocate anything other than XMR. We've become the top for DNMs for a reason, we're simply the best for cryptocurrency that actually functions as a currency.

>>53292214
we gained 2x sats over the past year, are you referring to the 0.001 sats we lost over a few days

>>53292349
arigato fren, I'm actually working in tech and have many of the things you listed or am familiar with them, I'm super new to crypto though since I just got into the actual workforce with a semi worthwhile job to invest money with. Are wallets an either/or thing where I can store my funds in one spot only, or can I back it up to both my hard drive and say a ledger, in case one gets damaged? I'll be dcaing into xmr frequently from now onwards

>>53281692
Tiny. Wonder when XMR will be hitting terrabytes or higher. Can't wait desu, nobody will be able to fuck with that.

>>53288282
Unfathomably based.

I recently sold an IRC buddy an eGPU in exchange for some monero. Thinking of setting up a website for this kind of market (legal stuff, like computers, car parts, tools, etc.), would anyone be interested in this sort of thing?
It might work out with multisig-based escrow, but I am not sure if that is too complicated for the average joe.

>>53292696
Got one already. some competition can't be bad though :)
https://moneromarket.io/

>>53292472
trezor & ledger have different ways from taking their bip39 seedphrase to a monero phrase. If the device poofed, you would either get another, or find tools and use them offline if liquidity is needed. https://github.com/trezor/trezor-firmware/issues/1078

>>53288282
Well said
>>53292747
Yeah, I figure that between this and bitejo it will be stiff competition.
My idea is for a federated network of web servers, where the users are identified by their monero (bitcoin, openpgp, ssh, etc.) keypair and posts are signed by the users. It would use something like mutlisig for sybil/spam resistance and escrow, as opposed to depending on captcha and for the site owners to manually handle the escrow.
I suppose it could also be a "news" website as well as a "classified ads" site, seeing as the discussion for monero is currently centered around reddit.

>>53293064
10/10

>>53292472
Personally, I've never needed a hw wallet and never had a reason to use one. If you want one, go for it, but I feel it's an unnecessary expense if you've already familiarized yourself with Linux. I keep my wallet on an encrypted Linux system (LUKS on /home, /var, /boot, and swap of course) and haven't had a single issue. The system is dual booted with Win 10 (mostly gaming) where I keep a watching-only wallet for viewing incoming transactions. You can have as many copies of your wallet on as many devices as you want, but that's a security issue of course.

Sorry for ranting, I've had probably 3 too many

>>53292472
Feeling slightly less drunk, so I'm gonna take another crack at this.

You can run as many wallets as you want on as many devices as you want. Keep in mind each wallet has to synchronize on its own; keeping a wallet synchronized on your phone won't help your wallet on your desktop.

For security reasons, you'll be best off running 2 different wallets on 2 different devices (a "spending" wallet on your phone and "holding" wallet on an encrypted Linux system) so you can use your crypto normally and have your second wallet for an impromptu savings account. This will prevent issues such as being hacked or being stupid and accidentally sending someone 25XMR instead of 25USD (almost did that in an old thread, some might remember that).

At the end of the day, you just need to follow the same basic guidelines you normally would to protect your bank account. Don't visit sketchy sites, don't download runescape infinite gold hack tools, etc. and you'll be fine in about 75% of cases. Keep in mind that IF you do fuck up, it's irreversible. So that's why it's best to have a wallet that's heavily guarded and a wallet that you spend from instead of just having 1 wallet for everything. It's an extra safety net that you probably don't need, but is worth its weight in gold if something goes wrong.

>>53292164
i just research and try to invest in legit projects. there are so few of them, it's hard to be overdiversified.

>>53293689
Which ones?
If you happen to be the RAILjeet, fuck off and kill yourself, shitskin

>>53294657
xmr wow. i wish i knew other projects to invest in that really mattered or were true.

>>53294657
>L2 privacy on PoS chains
lol, no thanks

here's the one's i think look alright
monero: obviously. the one i use the most. cpu mineable using RandomX
firo: another privacy coin. uses a burning/minting mechanism for privacy. algo based off of ProgPoW which is basically RandomX for gpus.
dero: L1 private smart contracts, using partial homomorphic encryption. pretty cool, but the community is awful. devs barely communicate, and kryptoid is a schizo.
grin: another privacy coin. uses mimblewimble. this has linking issues, but they're supposedly in the final phase of fixing that. stupid high inflation right now, but it looks like the price might have hit a bottom.
sia: decentralized storage. had some drama recently when skynet shut down, but i'm actually optimistic about the changes taking place. rewrite should be finished sometime this year.
arweave: decentralized storage. expensive, but permanent. may or may not be sustainable.
handshake: decentralized dns. names are bid on using vickrey auctions.
presearch (token): decentralized search engine. i use it as my main search these days, way better than google or duckduckgo ime.
foam (token): satellite free gps and mapping system. still in development. hopefully doesn't end up as another helium

N

I

G

Sats..N-no..

>>53277880
The normie fawks guy shit is so cringe it makes me want to sell. Please never use it for generals ever again.

>>53297042
>it makes me want to sell.

Just do it, faggot.

>>53292971
>I suppose it could also be a "news" website as well as a "classified ads" site, seeing as the discussion for monero is currently centered around reddit.
Sounds like a good idea. Go for it. The less the community is centered around "leddit" the better.

Also, I think monero community could make use of a monero and cryptoanarchy related news site (like hacker news) that people can tip others via neros. Kinda like stacker news but for Monereans.

Another Monero-related service I would like to see is a gumroad-alike. Podcasters can publish their recordings there, and people can tip or purchase the broadcasts. Again, I guess bitshitters have something like that in which they can send bitcoins per minute of the podcast they listen to. Some content monetization service like that but using Monero would be cool.

>>53297042
This. Anonymous being copted by social media LARPers and dumb political schizos is sad and cringe

help me monbros
>>53298056
>>53298056
>>53298056

>>53298025

Its a pop-culture reference that normies universally associate with anonymity and rebellion, 2 things we WANT Monero to be known for.

Let the NGU niggers keep branding Bitcoin with moons & lambos, it will eventually turn toxic.

>>53293337
>>53293650
ty

>>53293650
i need to learn to use a fairly simple version of linux, for a phone and for a pc. where would you recomend a person do that? and i need to learn about tails usb cold storage as well. i need this because i currently do use a single wallet for 99% of my activity. please halp a pleb by pointing me in right direction.

>>53298273
search youtube lol

also, you can create another wallet with a new seedphrase and put 90% of your assets there and use your current wallet as hot wallet.

omg you must be drinking cowpiss every morning mr. jeet

Been chugging along with my ANSI graphics scripts. Got basic scatterplots, so I'll start working on Renko and candlestick charts now.

>>53300179
This is in addition to the terminal I did a few weeks ago.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1673889698275680.webm

>>53300423
based. Glory to the Monero-chan People's Republic

The fuck is happening to the ratio??????????

>>53300915
Monero will only win once we have cleaned house of the class enemies of Monerochan.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1673893233739323.webm

>>53298066
>>53301549

>>53301001
sats pump in a bear. moon faggotry in a bull goes to bitcohen.

They say this coin is untraceable, how is that so? When you send money to an exchange and buy, there will be proof. So how do you hide your investment from governments?

t. XMR noob

>>53301921
That's why we advocate not using KYC lol.
>So how do you hide your investment from governments?
kycnot.me

What is the latest update on farcaster/haveno?

>>53301921
Untraceable on-chain.

Obviously if you tell a website precisely how much you are sending from where and to whom, you have no privacy,

>>53302577
last update for haveno was November 9th when ErCiccione bailed, development still appears to be active in his absence.

I remember hearing something late last year about Farcaster being almost complete but nothing since then. Development is still active.

So basically the same as the last 2ish years, "coming soon to a desktop near you".

>>53302782
>So basically the same as the last 2ish years, "coming soon to a desktop near you".
Yeah, rather annoying.
At least the basic dex or how it's called is live.

And I think serai is getting audited or something, but not sure how that changes things.

>>53302782
>Untraceable on-chain.
So where would you buy it and with what currency? And how would get that currency online without any trace?

>>53303464
The system doesn't account for "buying monero" that is an entirely human thing, but swap sites like Trocador.app
( http://trocadorfyhlu27aefre5u7zri66gudtzdyelymftvr4yjwcxhfaqsid.onion/ ) are your best bet because the only data you give up are wallet address and your IP address (and whatever else standard webshit is gathering, but that happens everywhere)

As far as "getting that currency online without any trace" I'm not really sure what you mean. Balances are hidden and when you send, nobody can see who sent how much to where unless you choose to tell them. If it's in a synced wallet, it's already "online without any trace" The only step beyond that might be sending it to a marketplaces web wallet before spending on that site, or sending it to an airgapped cold wallet.

I've been running a node and mining with the official GUI wallet (p2pool) but it seems with gupax it is better? How often do you get payouts? My rig has 4500H/s with half threads on

Hello. Do you think you could provide me with some assitance? I've been trying to start a local node, but the daemon is stuck. The blocks won't keep updating, and the log just says something about:

"Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 2801019 -> 2801189 [Your node is 170 blocks (5.7 hours) behind] "

and

"src/p2p/net_node.inl:291 Host 1xxx.x.xxxx.x (random ip) blocked."

Thanks for your help...erino

>>53305026
fkn saved

>>53305216
Neither of those are error messages, those both indicate normal operation.

Is this on Linux or Windows?
How full is the drive the chain is on? What KIND OF drive is it? How long has the daemon been running? How long has it been stuck?

Try running "stop_daemon" in the terminal the node is running in, then restarting it. Good 'ol turn it off and back on again trick.

>>53305723
>>53305723
The thing is that the daemon is stuck at like 169, 1 70, 159, etc everytime I restart it. It's on windows, the ssd has like 200 gigs left, I have had the daemon on for like a day and a half, and then half a day more while it's stuck.

>>53306077
>>53305723
opened ports, problem solved. Also fixed the date. Unfortunately can't tell what did it, but it's done. Thanks

>>53306077
Okay good, glad it's working. I was just about to post a known good local node config file and then tell you to work up to forwarding ports once you get the last few hundred block synced lmao.

My only guess is that you dropped in/out peers for ??? reason. I've had similar issues, but only on OpenBSD so I doubt they were related in any way.

Maybe we will print another giant "M" on the chart.

>>53307431
would be cool lol

Why does it take so long to sync my exodus wallet with XMR?

>>53294740
>wow.
wow is a reddit mod grift designed to sap resources from the monero ecosystem.

>>53292164
>Okay, so like a blockchain is just like a linked list with cryptography involved, right?
simplistically yes, each "block" can be thought of like a node in a single linked list.

>And kyc is gay and dumb because it lets fedniggers track chad schizos like us, right?
yes, or just because KYC is ineffective against criminals and serves to deanonymize regular people.
>And the big exchanges (coin base) doesn’t have xmr bc they’re glowies?
They make money off manipulating coin prices, especially xmr as they just make excuses about "the chain is le broken" or "it's private we can't have an audit"

>And so I should download an xmr wallet (or buy a ledger) and store it there using one of the non kyc services to buy?
No, no ledger closed source nonsense, self custody only. I would recommend you to put it on Tails or something but I don't think the wallet actually works with the new version.

Whatever you do, just make a permanent record of your seedphrase that only you will see.

>How “diverse” should my crypto collection be?
No other cryptocurrency even works as a decentralized currency. Monero is like a bare minimum viable product, others simply don't pass that bar.

when is this shitcoin mooning? I have no other use for it as I will not be buying cocaine

>>53308999
kill yourself

>>53309027
>kill yourself

>>53309061
sell everything.

if monero dropped to 50 dollars, how much would you buy

>>53309826
enough for a rope

>>53310551
I would try to get atleast 100

>>53300423

is now a good time to swap my BTC for XMR

>>53292164
>>53292472
>>53292817
You can view (and write down) your Private 25 Word Mnemonic Seed Phrase that is saved on your Ledger Device via these two separate methods but equally the same result:

https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/11979/how-to-convert-ledger-seed-to-monero-compatible-seed-on-windows

https://github.com/LedgerHQ/app-monero/tree/master/tools/python

>>53293064
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fMfapDlm9UY

>>53310581
that's a lot of rope

>>53310658
>now
who knows
it was a good time like one year ago

>>53308469
desktop?
I think it needs to download like 5gb

>>53277880
Bump

I'll keep buying XMR for as long as it is below Litecoin which I feel is directly challenged by XMR as the "#2 currency coin".

As long as XMR is under Litecoin in marketcap I know that it's still undervalued.

>>53310719

XMR is scam coin

real men are buying DIST token for true layer one privacys coin on BSC network

>>53309061
Sell everything immediately for dogecoin, seems more your speed.

>>53311333
>As long as XMR is under Litecoin in marketcap I know that it's still undervalued.
As long as XMR is under bitcoin I know that it's undervalued. Other coins simply fail to function as a currency.

>>53311805
>XMR is scam coin
>true layer one privacys coin on BSC network
just fuck off and die already, you are subhuman.

>>53312008
you leave you paid FUDDERS

you are scared DIST network is good project

how can mine p2pool if I don't control the ports of my network?

>>53311675
Who made this

>>53312229
-Do it over tor
-Do it over i2p
-Assuming you mean "my isp is cucking me with a mandatory proprietary modem/router combo" you can just put it in bridge mode, then connect it to an openwrt router

>>53312062
>paid FUDDERS
Ah you're sarcastic, now that I think about it, you are probably the same person that I was LARPing with in their general telling "the people of the 4channel" that it will moonie moon.

>>53312499
Yours truly

>>53277880
I feel like making some poorly-drawn /biz/ comics
is this actually funny or not? I can't tell these days

>>53313118

Nicely done, keep em coming.

>>53313118
Is gud. Keep em coming plz

>>53312536
thanks bro

>>53312828

Stop buying.

>>53313306
>>53313427

>>53313817
Just bought more.

>>53313903

You are now the official /XMR/ Doodler-at-Arms.

why is Ryzen 3700X so efficient at mining monero? it's a 8-core CPU from 2019 and it's as good as some brand new CPUs

>>53313306
how can i find women like this for a nice little party in prague/bratislava/budapest??? HOW???

>>53316054
https://xmrig.com/benchmark

>>53316054
iirc it's due to the cache and single die configuration.
Little latency and all the memory it needs.
Newer cpus didn't improve on this by much.
But please some anon that knows more about hw correct me, it has been a while.
>>53316412
V4 bitches are better.

>>53309826
40-50 XMR

>>53309826
As much as my normal DCA plus a little extra would allow.

>>53313903
>Mandatory Penis Inspection KYC
my sides

please stop fudding DIST threads

we will pay you in DIST to stop

>>53321811
We don't want your worthless shitcoin. And stop shitting up ours. Every new privacy coin always shits up Monero threads to springboard off its popularity. You jeets even made fanart with Monero-chan in it.

>>53321967
fuck you then you fat america shart

DIST will over take you and project of privacys

>>53321967
>Every new privacy coin always shits up Monero threads to springboard off its popularity.

>>53321981

Behold Sir Nigger of House Nigger, The First of His Nigger Name, The Unbucked, The Breaker of These Chains, The Drinker of Dranks, The BBC Impaler, The Based.

>>53319999
My wife.

>>53312062
its literaly a subhuman street shitter typeing for 50 cents a post.

>>53321981
>project of privacys
lmfao its break time abduhl, go get a kebab and take a load off.

>>53321981
>that broken pajeet dialog
>1pbtid
>the exact same spacing in each thread full of 1pbtids with lazy anime photoshops
lol this pajeet is working over time.

mildly off topic, but this general seems the be the most technically knowledgeable on /biz/, and you all understand the importance of privacy.

what crypto technologies do you guys think will be important to rebuild if (when) the crypto speculative bubble pops, and would privacy be an important key feature in none currency crypto. Do we need private smart contracts, or private NFTs. I can see the value of implimenting those techs, but should privacy be a more important issue, not just with our currency coin?

words words words

i miss the old /biz/

>>53323152
>what crypto technologies do you guys think will be important to rebuild if (when) the crypto speculative bubble pops, and would privacy be an important key feature in none currency crypto
I like the idea of smart contracts, but I think the "platform" approach makes any adoption result in maximum chain bloat and thus node centralization (which defeats the purpose of using crypto to begin with, as you could just use a SQL database). ETH only has a throughput of ~12 transactions a second and is at the absolute breaking point of being able to run your own node with retail-grade hardware, and half the nodes are already running on AWS anyway. This is not very scientific, but as a thought experiment consider that for Monero to achieve high levels of privacy, it needs about 8x the average transaction size of Bitcoin (250 bytes/tx vs. 2000 bytes/tx). If you worked through the logistics of making a "private-ETH" but now filled up to the gas limit (say) 8x faster, that means your throughput for the same standard is now at 1/8 the level of the traceable version, which (again, making a lot of non-scientific assumptions) would render a "private-ETH" coin at about 2-3 tps before hitting the breaking point. Smart contract platforms as they currently exist are essentially anti-scaling technology because they allow extreme bloatware and bottleneck easily due to limitations in SSD write-speeds, bandwidth, etc.

Maybe in a decade or so the bottleneck problems will be minor enough that something like a private smart contract platform would be viable with both reasonable throughput and home node operators, but as it stands it is a complete waste of energy because they cannot even get the spyware smart contract chains to crack above 10-20 tps consistently without running the nodes out of centralized datacenters.

If a smart contract is considered crucial, it should be curated and added on top of the otherwise "dumb" currency coin e.g. XMR's atomic swaps.

>>53323292
I always thought I understood crypto, but back when BSV came out and I heard people talking about adding smart contracts to a regular crypto, I was completely confused. Do I need to learn more about atomic swaps to understand how you could theoretically add a smart contract to a "dumb" coin?

>>53323330
>Do I need to learn more about atomic swaps to understand how you could theoretically add a smart contract to a "dumb" coin?
Not really. Just think of ETH as an open platform and (in this example) Monero as a closed platform, i.e. Monero requires the devs to personally add each specific smart contract into the protocol, but outsiders are otherwise not able to "publish" their own smart contracts, NFTs, etc. onto the Monero blockchain. There's nothing particularly special about Monero in this regard technologically speaking, it's more that the other currency coins either don't care or don't want to add any smart contracts this way even though they could if they wanted to.

>>53323384
OH SHIT, you explain it so well I feel like an idiot for never understanding it until now. It makes me wonder if a smart contract platform is even entirely necessary, or if you could just have a small amount of smart contracts that are used really often for important financial or insurance related contracts.

The more and more I learn about finance the more and more I really feel like crypto could actually have value beyond moon missions. But the more I learn about how shit the world is, the more I really want privacy intrinsic system to be built.

I need to study more about Monero, I'm tired of just understanding crypto at a surface level, I wanna understand her under the hood.

>>53323384
If you don't mind me asking, where did you learn so much about crypto? you just read a lot of whitepapers, and study cryptography, or was it just simply being curious about all the systems and trying to follow along with development and understanding the systems they implement without simply reading the abridged explanations of how it works?

>>53277991
BTC heavily increases with every halving though.

>>53323715
increases in gayness

Trying not to think about the cringe that will ensue when privacy becomes the narrative of the month. So much garbage is going to pump in monero's wake

>>53323715
But that's the thing, in order to maintain the current network security, the price has to double to ~40k by next year, then ~80k by 2028, then ~160k by 2032, ~320k by 2034, ~640k by 2038, etc by the time the last satoshi is SUPPOSED to be mined, either the network security is in the garbage mined by banks, or the fees are stupidly high. Likely both.

Unsustainable, without tail emission Bitcoin is fucked in terms of security and as a curreny.

>>53324805
this is the redpill that bitshits can't compute

I haven't seen suck2blow charts posted in a long time

>>53322033
Did you even bother to read the shit you posted, you dumb fuck?

>>53324941
No, it was just an example of a privacy coin piggybacking on monero

Should I just save myself the trouble and shutdown the computer at this point? Mining at p2pool... apparently.

when’re we getting rich lads?

>>53325719
My bad, I apologize for being rude to you, Anon. I mistook you for another shill

>>53326766
get out

>>53323292
I like the app chain vision in that regard. Rather than having multi purpose smart contracts platforms, you just have an entire chain for a single dex, or for an NFT store, etc. So long as all the different chains can communicate & share security it doesn't get so bottlenecked.

>>53322033
Lmao, looks like they lasted all the way till 2021 before giving it up.

XMR chads keep winning

>>53327304

These are awesome!

>>53323527
>where did you learn so much about crypto
Mostly from researching scams and false claims. I'm big on value investing but the problem for a value investor is that there is such extreme lying in the crypto space that unless you do deep dives into researching how these things work, you're basically guaranteed to end up buying scams that have flashy, techno-babble marketing. It's essentially a race to the bottom of who can tell the biggest, most bald-faced lies, which is why you see shitcoin cults form around things like BSV, Insane Clown Posse, Hedera Hashgraph, etc. because the people in charge have no moral center or compunction about lying.

>>53308986
>ledger
According to Ledger:
"We can make sure that those proprietary parts don’t introduce software backdoors by implementing an additional applicative firewall on a non secure microcontroller communicating with the Secure Element, don’t provide covert channels by using deterministic cryptographic operations, and don’t store secrets permanently in the flash memory when they shouldn’t by monitoring the chip power consumption."
What exactly do you think could happen here?

>>53327527
I get the feeling that most Hedera threads are full of astroturfing and probably created by employees, but is the technology really a lie? I thought I was smart by making it my dystopia bet

>>53327451
in what way

>>53328748
>but is the technology really a lie?
Yes, they lie through their teeth. I brought it up because it's one of the more brazen examples of dazzling low-information investors with techno-babble bullshit.

We are testing the 800 day EMA support while BTC is testing the 200 day EMA resistance.
If you can't understand what this means, NGMI.

>>53327632
it's over
sell now
stop buying

monero will flip bitcoin

>>53277880
ANONYMITY OF BLOCKCHAIN MENTIONED BY DOJ

>>53330010
>/biz/lato
>ligmadimov
lmao

>>53329208
>If you can't understand what this means, NGMI
I can't understand it because I do not gamble with funny lines and rectangles.
Or maybe because I'm on the left side of the picture, who knows.

Stop buying.

Would it be worth buying ad-space to post Monero ads on all the other boards? Or is everyone still accumulating?

Also, is there any dedicated Monero forum anymore? Bitcointalk is deprecated and forum.monero.space has been spammed to death.

any thoughts on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWZ0cUj54-4
They are talking about some takedowns that happened a while ago.

>>53330421
I wouldn't buy advertisements for monero. It will make it seem like it's a product of some corporation instead of a community project. The most important aspect of community outreach is getting people to make wallets and teaching them how to use it as money, not as an investment. I make donations to websites I visit and encourage them to post monero addresses on their blogs. I go on IRC and give away some (~0.1 at a time) monero for free to new users.
Brand awareness and name recogniton is not the problem. People are familiar with cryptocurrencies, and are aware that most cryptocurrencies are a scam.

>>53330421
I am working on one, but it will not be ready for a while.

>>53330650
Yeah that's a good point. And are you making your own forum from scratch? Or just using one of the many software available.

>DOJ
Complete nothingburger wherein diversity-hires cope over having their drug trade taken over by smarter Russians and go after a no-name exchange while continuing to do nothing about FTX.

>>53330745
it's new forum software made using libmicrohttpd, libcurl, monero-cpp and whatnot. I mention it earlier in this thread here >>53292696 and >>53292971, but my ID has changed because I am phoneposting.

>>53296313

GARD. For xmr.

Does anyone know if LebAnon is OK?
I saw some video about how shit is going down there.

>>53327304
cool

>>53327304
SAVED

I present to you, the Monerochan acrylic standee!
https://monerosupplies.com/product/monerochan-standee/
Finally: Monerochan merch more fancy than the crap from redbubble.


I'll post a short video voiced by the girl from the trocador tutorial within the next 2 days and officially announce it but I wanted to you guys to be the first to see it :3

>>53333778
why tf is the image rotated lmao

Stop posting FUD in DIST threads you fat fucks

you are disrupting a good discussion on next gen privacys tech

>>53333778
Anon, I could kiss you for all the things you've done. I won't, because I'm sure your interests are in women, but I could

>>53333778
oh and I'll give away 3 on twitter for the launch if anyone is interested in that

>>53317474
I love it.

Also, can i mine monero on google colab or any other remote hardware for free?

>>53322033
Holy fuck they always come here and shit up the thread

Remember Z cash?

DIST is better coin and you are jealous of moonie moon potential for good privacys coin

>>53334197
sure man, its great. now gtfo.

>>53293650
>>53302782
I bought yesterday for the first time through a kycnot exchange. I sent like .01 something btc for 1.5 ish xmr. If I sent the funds from my coinbase account, is it still private or can it be traced? Is it even Wirth it for me to bother with privacy if I'm just stacking it since I think it's quite good investment? Seems like less hassle to buy off an exchange than autistically moving crypto around to exchange ut

>>53334175
Just ignore, the shilling is much less then what it used to be.

>never forget what this is ultimately all about
i wont care one bit what its about if its worth 1% of what is was when I bought it.
all of crypto is going to be worth nothing in 5 years

>>53334830

Thank you for your compelling insight.

>>53317474

season 2 when?

>>53323085
the fuck is 1pbtid ?

>>53336601

means = one post by this ID

>>53333778
neat, i'm buying one, thanks for all ur work

>>53336601

>>53336929
So that's what that filter does. Ok.

I don't buy anything illegal
but I don't want government and corporations tracking and tracing what I do
If I give some money to a family member, govt doesn't need to know

Sorry if this is a stupid question but bear with me I'm a newfag with Monero.
When you buy XMR, does your bank or CEX knows that you bought a certain amount of XMR?
If that's the case, and you buy and transfer a large amount of XMR, won't the CEX see that a large amount of XMR disappeared from your wallet, therefore raising suspicion around your account?

>>53334468
A quick breakdown on what outside observers would see is
>bought Bitcoin through KYC
>sent to wallet (if you did)
>sent to other exchange
>if the other exchange logged anything, they would know you exchanged X Bitcoin for X Monero and sent it to Y Wallet address
After that, the trail goes cold. So if they spent time and resources, they would know how much you exchanged for and what XMR address you had it sent to (although it might not even be your address anyway, so that doesn't necessarily prove you have the coins).

If you're buying a lot and pay your taxes properly, KYC might be easier for you. That being said, any regulations that are placed against XMR have a chance of the KYC exchange reporting you for owning it (which is less of a threat if you use a swap service because they would actually have to look at transactions and get in touch with that service). Personally, I'd prefer the round about method of buying and swapping just for peace of mind and an extra layer of plausible deniability

I'm somewhat thinking out loud with the last part, but the rest is common knowledge.

>>53323450
Welcome to Zion

>>53337231
Assuming you're using a KYC CEX, yes*.

*your bank will know you bought crypto from the exchange, the exchange will know what you bought and how much, and sending large amounts will possibly raise a red flag to the IRS (I think there's a law stating movements greater than something like $20k have to be reported or something, I may just be wrong and/or retarded though)

>>53334755
checked and the king shiller has his own problems

Sellix accepts monero now
Nice
Setup a shop, here it is
https://suchwow.sellix.io

stop sending paid fud to DIST threads you fat fucks

>>53336601
How new are you?

>>53328948
So which numbers do you think is realistic for hbar and why?

How do I earn XMR anons?

>>53338549
If you're cute we can work something out

>>53338549
produce a good or service

>>53277991
Could be wrong but doesn't the difficulty to mine BTC scale with the amount of people mining? So you'd get something like: becomes unprofitable to mine -> less people mine -> easier for remaining miners -> no longer unprofitable.

I do sell some goods but don't get many sales nowadays

>>53338696
Meant for
>>53338645

>>53338696
>>53338709
sell harder

>>53338482
>So which numbers do you think is realistic for hbar and why?
If you did a apples to apples comparison and set the bar at
>you can run your own node with retail hardware and internet
then it would likely be under 10 tps, assuming you got the same rough average tx size as ETH gets (i.e. the same ratio of wallet-to-wallet transfers, DEX users, monkey jpeg minters, multisig wallet users, etc.) It's going to be under ETH simply because speed and throughput have an inverse relationship.
Hbar using a DAG does not grant any magical properties whatsoever, it's functionally like if you took Bitcoin, made every block contain only one or two transactions, and made the block time a second or less.
You might see that and think
>great, because that would make Bitcoin go faster!
but the problem is that you hit the bottlenecks with less total transactions capable of getting through as you have to spend a (dramatically) greater percentage of total data sent over the network simply establishing consensus.

I buy blow, acid, and ecstasy with my monero, ask me anything

>>53339227
do you use ecstacy often

I only used it once and I couldn't even fuck my girlfriend, I just felt pure love

it was like I had empathy for a few hours, then back to being a dark triad badboy

>>53339382
I do it occasionally. It's implicated in therapy because of what you state; it makes people feel pure love or something akin. Opens people up to the possibility, makes literal neural connections that wouldn't happen otherwise.

And yeah it will energize you, and open you up, if you take enough you will start to do things you wouldn't normally do. But e-dick is real, will feel the love, but not in a sexually erotic way.

WTF bros it's fucking OVER

>>53340073
hug me

>>53277880
uiete

Does dfhack "open-legends" works yet? I succesfully opened a blank window by pressing "Y" after saving, but nothing more.

What is the best on ramp for a leaf? Thinking of unloading my BTC into XMR through localmonero or a similar service.

>>53340514
whoops wrong thread

>>53340073
Why'd we dump so hard

>>53339090
>speed and throughput have an inverse relationship
Could you elaborate on what you mean by this? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but surely faster transactions would necessarily mean a larger maximum potential volume of transactions right?

Told you faggots this shit is gonna dump

>>53339090
T. Someone with zero understanding what the Hashgraph consensus algorithm is, and how it works.
>Under 10 tps
What the fuck are you smoking

>>53340952
I'll elaborate.
It doesnt matter how many transaction are sent to the network at once, the throughput of Hashgraph is so high because of the fair ordering it provides.
One tx timestamp when you send the transaction
Another tx timestamp when the network reaches consensus
Each hash contains the previous hash, thus requiring no additional information to be shared, yet giving access to the full history of the Hashgraph.
The above anon has no idea what hes talking about

>>53333778

What countries do you ship to? Is it possible to pay with XMR?

DIST is good project you monero fudder fucks

NEW THREAD: >>53341487
>NEW THREAD: >>53341487
NEW THREAD: >>53341487
>NEW THREAD: >>53341487
NEW THREAD: >>53341487
>NEW THREAD: >>53341487

>>53340952
>speed and throughput have an inverse relationship
>Could you elaborate on what you mean by this?

You determine you have 100 bytes per 100 seconds you can send before the node network collapses. Those are your physical constraints by the nature of reality. A transaction is 1 byte. The consensus data to confirm a block, DAG cycle, "gossiping about gossip", etc. is 1 byte.

Cryptocurrency A has a block time of 2 seconds. So in 100 seconds it will make 50 blocks, in turn "using up" 50 bytes for consensus data, which leaves 50 bytes for transaction data, or (in this example) 50 transactions.

Cryptocurrency B has a block time of 100 seconds. So in 100 seconds it will only be making a single block, which only requires 1 byte for consensus data, leaving the other 99 bytes available for transactions, i.e. it could do 99 transactions in those 100 seconds.

Which of these cryptocurrencies is faster?
Now which of these cryptocurrencies has higher throughput?

>>53338461
I've been on biz for a couple years. I don't browse /pol/.