/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>53278882

Obligatory US Constitutional Guides:

Silver: bit dot ly/33ryJBb
Gold: bit dot ly/327ob9T

Let's get some stack posts frens

>>53278882
Asteroid crashes to earth containing tons of gold and silver ore...

>>53278882
I want to FUCK that silver, bros.

A goblin enters your house, sniffs out the location of your silver stack and takes a close look at it.

>"W-wow human! You sure have a lot of silver for one of your kind..."

What do you do?

>>53278965
From yesterdays thread.

>>53278986
you listen hear gobo your kind took advantage of my kind for years...
>takes out copper but plug
now its time to repay you in kind knife ear........

>>53278882
Attention attention

>>53278986
>hit grue with sword

>>53278986
This one is sexier.

>>53278965
posting an oldie but goodie
money's a little tight right now but got my birthday coming up soon, will definitely get some shiny with birthday haul
Real question is whether I get the 2012 ATB silver proof set to fill out collection gaps (that one is expensive, mint for some dumb reason limited availability that year) or if I can afford it a quarter eagle, last thread got me acting up for those incuse injuns
>>53278986
>for one of your kind
Racist cunt, outta my house. Typical goblin behavior!

>>53279036
this one is sexiEST

>>53279030
I worry we are literally now in 2 more weeks territory and this coin wont even get minted.

>>53278882
Stupid cartoon. FTX is not a scam. SBF says he can still save it if they make him CEO again.

>>53278965
Goal stack

>>53279109
We’ll get an email asking for another $700 to bring prices inline with the current cost of silver.

>>53279116
gtfo fryboy

>>53278921
This shit reminds me of the faggot doge meme, unironically makes me cringe.

>>53279036
very nice

>>53278986
I unsheathe my sword and pierce her to the hilt for 10 damage.

>>53278882
hes right but bonk gonna moon first

>>53279064
Midna’s an imp, not a goblin. Fuggable shortstack, tho.

The Queen's Virtues series in proof as I have it so far...

>>53279000
checked. nice goldbacks

>>53279044
also checked. personally i try to avoid sets

>>53279115
thx

Should I avoid silver and gold bars? I keep reading some places are really fussy about those

>>53279596
What country are you in?

>>53278882
Why does he always give women big titty

>>53279596
Fussy? What are you gonna do? Sell them back? What?

Good new video from Cliff High about the khazars and the wef and how all their shit is failing and coming to an end.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZHjCmlU4o6AN/

>>53279596
>some places are really fussy about those
wot? never heard of this. silver is silver.

>>53279700
I've never heard of it either. I can only guess it might be an issue in a situation where too many people are selling at once and the buyer has a glut of supply so they can afford to be picky. And then the seller treats that anecdotal situation as a rule and lets it influence their stacking and tells other people to only stack certain things without understanding that markets can change real fast.

I'm really struggling with timing for a sell decision on my yellow boomer rocks
I still plan to hold a bunch, but my position is way oversized compared to other assets
It's been almost flat for me (east EU), short term I see upside, longer term a pullback
I'm not 100% on the 'it's been valued for X thousands of years, why should that change" in the era of unprecedented technological change, so I don't want to miss a potential top that might never recover, but I'm greedy and looking to time it just right

>>53278882
Goodeve ning /pmg/

>>53279760
maybe but you can literally just melt a bar into a round...
>>53279833
sup anon

>>53279833
of course 4chen rotates my image.

>>53279760
Some European countries have a higher tax on bars over coins. I think that's what he is thinking of?

>>53278882
ah yes, taking financial advice from artists, what a great idea

>>53279669
based woo weatherman

>>53278986
>implying a jew fucks around with silver
laughing out loud.

>>53279596
honestly I would say yes. Unless you're a dragon-tier silver stacker there's no point in buying bars, with gold I would advise against bars even if you were Richie Rich like the brassfag

>>53278882
ATTENTION BAKERS
Shiny goes in OP pic. Why the hell does this keep happening?

>>53279669
>Cliff High

The most based boomer on earth, I love that old schizo so fucking much bros. Have you been following his substack too?
https://clifhigh.substack.com/

>>53279879
Theres no reason not to buy bars, either anon

>>53279596
Silver is silver, high end spenders would rather buy a 1 kilo bar than 35 coins

>>53279879
but whats actually wrong with bars? they look nice in their own way.

The only people who hold physical gold are conspiracy theorists.

Is this a true statement?

>>53279030
Lose the dots, script edges with something that fits the theme.
>“With sword and silver”
>“A shield from the snakes of the government”
>“We will be friends forever”????
What about “this one defends while the other attacks” like “sword and silver on the face??

>>53279886
>Why the hell does this keep happening?
Failed Reddit users who are now shitting up this place. They also start threads early. It helps them get votes or something. And then it's about crypto.
OP's a faggot.

>>53280160
>governments and banks hold a lot of gold. governments and banks are involved with a lot of conspiracies (in theory).
Yup, checks out.

>>53279833
Greetings, fellow Sunshine appreciator.

>>53280160
Not everyone, but I own physical gold and am a conspiracy theorist

>>53280091
>>53280135
less divisible (large bars), harder to check if genuine (both large ones and small ones in certipacks), less liquid, no numismatic value potential, additional taxes in many countries that don't apply to coins
If I stated stacking all over again, I would only buy bullion coins for silver and for gold only historical + bullion coins that are within 2% over spot

>>53280167
These ideas suck

Bros, it finally came in the mail!
Please excuse my shitty phone camera quality, I just I would prove that I actually have it.

>>53280260

>>53280269

>>53280281

>>53280260
Neat, how's the birb on the obverse?

>>53280296

>>53280308

>>53280160
>Is this a true statement?
It isn't for me. I just think metals are pretty and I'm interested in all elements and science in general.

>>53278882
Is there a version with "Binance" written on it?

I fucking love Ben "Better Annihilated Than Miscegenated" Garrison

>>53280324
>>53280304
Im not going to lie to you, after finally having to look at the coin in person, the reverse is virtually mint state. The cartwheeling is exactly as you expect with minimal chatter. The reverse all by itself looks like a MS63/64 to me.
The main problem is that the obverse fields have alot of chatter to them, I honestly think that this coin has potential to get an MS60, which according to PCGS is worth around $2000.

>>53280387
Cool, are you going to be sending it in right away?

>>53280387
>this coin has potential to get an MS60
It looks lovely, but I'm not educated about ratings. If you were to resubmit, do you break it out of the housing and send it in a generic capsule? Or do they truly objectively dismiss a previous assessment?

>>53278882
posting in a blessed thread

>>53278965
nice stack anon

>>53279000
a beauty, and checked. turns out goldbacks do roll up nicely. still probably shouldn't try it if you intend to keep them pristine.

>>53279044
based rifle haver

>>53280500
sell a leaf to buy some caviar for that salmon

what's the ROI of silver if u bought in 1899

>>53280167
I like the text.

>>53280476
>>53280478
Gonna send both of these in here whenever I get around to it eventually.
But I think you can always send a previously graded coin to them and you can request a second opinion on them.

recycling old pics

>>53278965
thinking bout trading in some of these for something more interesting

>>53279787
You don't have to sell. If you think it's too much, just don't add any more to it and focus on your other investments.

>>53280160
Gold is an old-school store of wealth for a reason: humanity recognizes gold's intrinsic value, and since gold has uses beyond money, its value cannot ever go to zero.

>>53280608
I have some Canadian silver

>>53280329
Based titanium stacker
Probably my third favorite element after gold and silver. Where'd you find the bars? I might get one just for fun.

>>53280500
thanks

>>53280628
yeah get rid of the weiner

>>53278882

Ben Garrison hates crypto? Bullish

>>53280722
I got them a decade ago from a seller on ebay: evotime, for about $28.

>>53280739
i like wieners. i was thinking of the 10g bars and the two slabs on top. i just ordered regular coins, and they sent me those. i think i gave like 650-670ish? for the 1/2oz, maybe 380? or so for the quarter ounce, so i would come out on those, same with the 10g bars. thought maybe i could get one of these or some pre33 indians or something. maybe just another eagle. ill have to get another wiener at some point because one wiener is lame, and two wieners together are fun.

>>53280796
>i like wieners

>>53280628
trade the gold buffalos for some pre-33 gold

>>53280167
Anon, the dots are rivets on the shield.

>” munit haec et altera vincit” this one defends and the other one conquers

??? Maybe, seems a bit redundant. Try harder.

>>53280899
um no. i like the buffaloes. problem is, i have 3 of those, and only 2 eagles. it doesnt seem balanced. i need another eagle, i ordered a saint this week, dont know if that really counts. At least it would steady the scales somewhat. i like my idea of trading off the generic stuffs.

>>53278882
Wait. So what the hell does Ben think real money is?
Violence? I mean it is just violence but is he saying that?

>>53278882
The irony of this image is that if the one dropping these "coins" in the gutter we're on the other side of the street, behind gold and silver, they too, would be chucked in the same gutter.
ergo, POORS STAY POOR.

>>53280953
OP's post id\s giving this thread cancer.

>>53278965
I need more gold.

>>53279787
Vague notion that "technological change" somehow devalues gold and silver permanently. As if the world hasn't had any technological change in the three thousand years since gold and silver were first used as money.

>>53280500
I did try rolling one. But I couldn’t get it small enough to fit in a coin tube. But I was trying with something the size of dimes. It did roll, but I wouldn’t be comfortable leaving them like it.

where are my anime enjoyers at? Despite us making holocoin this dumb idiot has always been my favorite and its been a while since ive posted a stack pick. im at about 125 oz's. We are waiting on an update on the megumin order right now. Boxes are paid for and should be here soonTM

>>53278965
Always appreciated your collection. Mine hasn't changed much

>>53281129
just make one anon

rate my wheat harvest

>>53279109
What do you mean?

/pmg/ anyone here have a small, fireproof home safe they recommend?

>>53281248
Op's an idiot and a newbie.
He has no idea of MintAnon, but is trying really hard to be "in."

>>53281199
s h i p s !

>>53280920
>>53280249
>>53280569
What do you think about Deus Vult as an alternative? I personally think anything is better than “Frens” because we aren’t actually friends. It’s almost impossible for us to meet in person and most have no interest in that. It’s cute but cringe

>>53278969
We all die....
Also if asteroid mining becomes a thing then that just means we'll have enough gold to go on a gold standard again without the price going up to 53,000 dollars an ounce. Which is what it would be with the current amount of gold on earth. I welcome asteroid mining. The intergalactic gold standard will be a time of great prosperity for earthlings and martians alike!
>>53281233
Checked. Where'd ya find em? Coinrolls?
>>53278154
I didn't know the 2009 double eagle was extremely counterfeited. I know all the Indian head coins are too. Same with morgans. Shame that those are some of my favorite coins. Just gotta be careful I guess.
>>53280798
I think there was an 80 franc and 50 franc denomination too. I'm also not certain how much circulation the 5 franc saw. Probably about as much as the US gold dollar, which I bought my 5 franc as an alternative to seeing the premiums on gold dollars are disgustingly high.

If pan man is lurking, I wanna know if a geo degree is worth pursuing in current year? I know you’re a fellow leaf.

>>53278882
picrel
correct, I would prefer staying with the Gold and Silver scam

>>53278882
Actually, I invested in Bayhorse so I can tell you, from conclusive evidence and experience, that precious metals are also garbage.

>>53281213
what is the story behind this image?

>>53281411
saddam's gold, captured twenty years ago

>>53281310
The wagies have taken billions of pennies from these registers, and now they must put them back! It is ebb and flow! Tidal gravity! It is ecological balance!

fwiw the army guys you see there are wearing 173rd airborne patches on the left shoulder. out of vincenza italy. they're paratroopers, the pic is very likely from the march 2003 invasion.

>>53281411
>what is the story behind this image?
black gold wasn't the only type they went for in the raqs and istans anon

>>53280899

Buffalos are better than eagles.

>>53281437
The world is a business. One vast and ecumenical holding company.

>>53281149
nice mag. where did you get it?

>>53281524
friend got it for me as a christmas gift, southern tac lets you print on P-mags

>>53281536
nice. thanks!

>>53281462
Am I getting through to you Mr. Beale?

UHHHHH GUYS WHAT'S GOING ON????????????????????????

>>53281656
just a dream anon....

Reposting from the last thread for another poor anon.

I have a confession to make to you guys. I have been in these threads for years but I am a poorfag. I have about 160 oz of silver from scrounging for three years or so but I haven't had enough to buy anything for three months. Today I finally started back up with a 5 oz purchase.

I know it's not a reliable investment as it is just a stay of value during economic turmoil but what are the chances that precious metals go through the roof in price? What are the odds we actually do see a market crash in the foreseeable future? Are there resources I can read up on this stuff? If so I would be very grateful because I am limited to about fifty minutes a day to find out stuff on my own and it's just not that compatible with my schedule. Thank you in arvance I will read anything you send

>>53281713
its for for your future anon not really to make money. pms mooning are the pmg equivalint of /k/s boogaloo and /pol/s race war

>>53281713
Allow me to help.
Gold and silver will keep going down at least until they start going up again. We will know for sure when that happens because price changes will switch from a downward direction to an upward direction. One of the indicators that we can use to determine the timing of this change is that we will start to see gold and silver prices rising instead of falling. That will tell us when the direction of the price has changed from moving down to moving up. Once we know for sure that gold and silver are predominantly going upward, we can observe that they will mostly not be going downward. This observation will tell us that on average during that time, a given price will rise instead of fall. This means that the price of such a PM would likely to be going up, and would unlikely to be going down. However, depending on the circumstanes, the price might not move upward, and would instead move downward. In such a case, the value of an investor's holdings would not be rising, and would instead be falling. This is not optimal, as one of the goals of investing is for the value of holdings to go up, and not to go down. Investors prefer to invest in PMs with prices that have an upward direction, and not stocks with a downward direction. Investors that mostly invest in such PMs can expect to see the overall values of their portfolios rise instead of fall. This means that the prices of the PMs within those portfolios are, on average, going up and not going down. Thus, individual PMs may have their own trajectory, but the general direction would be upward instead of downward. In fact, if a price is changing, then that means it is either rising or falling.

>>53281713
nobody really knows, but if it does spike sell your silver and trade it for gold, then buy back the silver a few years later. just look at the charts

>>53281789
* to clarify keep some of the profits to buy back

>>53280160
i just like silver and gold because... i like them ?

>>53281780
Thanks for this, all things to have a plan for in the slim chance they occur.
>>53281788
Lol
>>53281789
My plan is to trade silver for gold when the ratio drops to below 60:1 good idea?

>>53281428
I too am a wagie. But not the cashier kind. I just pick my coppers out of circulation. I do have a roll of wheaties somewhere though.

hey what's some good pmg approved media? for me its lost mines pic rel. basically guys help struggling mines for shiny payouts later. the even helped the prospector guys apparently

>>53281886
mor

>>53281879
i'm a wagie that deals with cash and i always carry 2 bucks in change with a mix of quarters nickels and dimes. Out of my 2 years of handling cash i only found 1 1960 silver quarter on a cash count from previous shift and 1 1943 war nickel from a bank roll i cracked open to fill up the nickel tray.

still a nice feeling though. I don't tell anyone at work about my silver or gold hobby, i just quietly took out a regular quarter and nickel from my personal change to replace the silver i took out from the register so it stays balanced. its not stealing, right? someone paid face value with it, and the business is just gonna use change face value too to give back to customers paying with bills. I also take out low mintage coins or older stuff 1959 or older as a side thing to my silver, and i do the same with replacing it with change i keep in my pocket or wallet.

Do gold stackers feel how silver stackers feel about copper stackers? Do copper stackers look down on bottle cap stackers?

>>53282120
I do something similar with the 50p coins where I work

>>53281411
>what is the story behind this image
The US govt stole Iraq's gold during the 2003 invasion and its stored in the US Fed in NYC now

>>53279228
Poison effect: -1 Dex for 9 months

>>53280517
it was delicious without the caviar, though i will keep it in mind for next time.

>>53278882
>real money
>isn't actually money

>>53281310
poor wording on my part, 2009 high relief eagles aren't widely counterfeited, the incuse injuns are the low stock boomer hell.

>>53281886
>>53281976
what channel is it on, or is it youtube? Lovely bars!

>>53282148
> Do copper stackers look down on bottle cap stackers?
We're all one in the same fren.

>>53281294
ante omnia armari before all else, be armed

Any advice on trading a heavily tarnished 1883 Morgan for equivalent silver weight in walkers?
I have one that a buddy wants. He really likes Morgan's & I like walkers. Didn't know if there's any specifics I need to know so I don't fuck myself
>might include pic 2moro if this post gets attention
>cant be assed to mess with the safe atm

>>53282553
Lmao, legitimately love that injun drawing. Reminds me a lot of the classic blond mohawk chad.

>>53282625
Thanks! I was trying to copy the Buffalo nickel. My bag of pennies needed some Americana on it.
>Reminds me a lot of the classic blond mohawk chad.
Oh yeah it does look a lot like him.
>>53282419
>the incuse injuns are the low stock boomer hell
Well the boomers do love them. So did the Arabs, which is why they're counterfeited in the masses.
>>53282120
>Out of my 2 years of handling cash i only found 1 1960 silver quarter on a cash count from previous shift and 1 1943 war nickel from a bank roll i cracked open to fill up the nickel tray.
I know a wagie who found a 1963 silver quarter like 8 months ago.
I've found more silver in coinstars than in my change.
> I don't tell anyone at work about my silver or gold hobby
Me either. It'd make me seem weird. Although I did tell one dude I collected coins when he found a shield nickel and asked me what it was for some reason. I gave him a new nickel for it and told him to let me know if he ever found any other weird coins.
>>53280798
Also here's another pic of the 5 franc since your curiosity was spiked by it. Enjoy.

>>53282431
hey pan man its
https://youtu.be/UK8HsTAyM5c
fair warning it can be hard to find and some of them are just cabin renos for some reason...? still kind of comfy watching

>>53282728
>>53282120
These were my latest silver finds in circulation. A Christmas present from the coinstar gods.

>>53282553
>Wheaties
kek, I'm gonna start calling them that from now on.

>>53282740
OH this show! I was watching it on youtube a while ago but it all went pay walled and i couldnt be bothered anymore. Great looking properties!

the only reason Bitcoin isnt a scam is brand recognition

>>53282120
I've worked the till at a gas station for 5 years now and I do the same thing. Pic related is what I've found in that time. (I found the Mercs as FDRs but I had my LCS guy trade them out for me because fuck FDR.)

>>53281199
checked. thanks. I still need to get myself one of those eic ship "coins"

>>53281065
maybe. but nice dragon. what's the mini bars?

>>53279596
im a stacklet and im just starting collecting some old coins
i got pic related last week and and i have a few ounces of pre 1947 silver coins from bongland (47 is when they changed to cupronickel)
i also got a couple of roman coins
in bongland, purchases of bars or even large amounts of gold like jewellery is all registered and info forwarded to the taxman

>>53279116
This image cracks me up everytime, what a based and redpilled ai

>>53280229
Start referring to yourself as conspiracy knower. We are not theorist. Conspiracy theorist is slanderous term invented by Jews to discredit people who know.

Got an excellent read here that was written in 2016.

>>53283256
Please give me a tl;dr

>>53279552

>>53283294
Read the first paragraph then.

I bought another 10 oz bar

>>53283393
10oz bars are a good size. 10ozers and kilo bars way easier to deal with than all my little 1oz bars

>>53278882
I am really surprised he didn't label the cigarette "cigarette" as he is pretty much convinced his audience is utterly retarded and he needs to spell everything out for them.

>Gold
>Silver
>durrrrr

>>53283434
>Le garrison labelling meme
Jesus Christ libtard

>>53281262
If your main concern is fireproof and waterproof, I've seen tests of basic bitch safes on youtube that show that they'll hold up to their rating. And they're cheap enough that you could test one yourself if you were unsure.
If your main concern is security from burglars, either hide that cheap safe really really well or invest in something much better and bolt it to the floor.
>>53282562
>ante omnia armari
That's a good alternative idea.

>>53278965
Seeing those paper notes together gave me a good chuckle

>>53278882
Lots of salt from the crypto hustlers in this thread over this image. It highlights that crypto will never be a commodity and thus will always be a scam.

>>53281262
who cares if its fireproof when your coins are fireproof anon

>>53283616
I don't know who that is it just reminds me of this

>>53283642
>I don't know who that is it just reminds me of this

>>53278882
>zyklon ben with PMs
>amogusman with crypto
Stockbros.... commoditiesbros.... real estatesisters....
We lost..........

Is it worth keeping a few boxes of current cupronickel 50p coins? (75% 25% nickel currently) I assume at some point in the near future they will eventually switched over to crappy copper plated steel like all the other coins

Silver is fucking worthless. Pieces of shit . Good luck buying anything with rocks.

>>53283944
>he says on a computer/phone that literally wouldnt work without silver

>>53282562
I like it

>>53281233
Excellent photo, A-

>>53283616
This is what Jews look like...?

>>53278882
Ben forgot to mention modern money

Reminder to not buy american, canadian or brit gold/silver. ((They)) manipulate the price of metals, you are putting real money in a system that uses fake money

>>53278965
What's in the white tubes? Coke? Serious question

Only high iq countries are capable of laser engraving, explains how a missing reed constitutes a safety feature in muttmerica, literally South African standards

>>53284180
Quite the opposite. You're giving them worthless currency and receive precious metal. The price is the same no matter where the silver comes from. You're not buying any national reserves anyway.

>>53278882
Now I realise who keeps shilling these overpriced garbage to stupid people.

>>53284464
yes

>>53284464
Do what central banks do, not what FUDers say.

>>53283185
>i got pic related last week
hope you didn't buy direct from the Royal Mint. 3 x Vic sovs should be dirt cheap, 5% over spot.
>in bongland, purchases of bars or even large amounts of gold like jewellery is all registered and info forwarded to the taxman
pay cash then. as long as your purchase is under £8k, then they don't need your details for AML/KYC

>>53283156
https://www.apmex.com/product/238778/1-oz-silver-bar-apmex-mini-brick
I got them with pic related. People here like to shit on Apmex, but I've yet to have a bad experience.

>>53281713
I suggest you stop thinking about PMs "going through the roof in price". You are thinking in terms of fiat as a measure of value. But fiat has proven to ALWAYS fail as a measure of value because the quantity is in the control of people who ultimately cannot control their own greed and put their own interests above the interests of the rest of humanity. Fiat is a scam that was built on the legacy and reputation of gold and silver but was corrupted. Like every scam and con game, fiat will come to an end and everything that was built on the big lie will come crashing down and be revalued in terms of reliable measures of value. In many cases, the revaluation will be zero. What will be the reliable measures of value when the fiat scam breaks? Stackers believe (if I may be so bold as to speak for them) that the three thousand year history of silver and gold use as money gives a pretty strong hint. And the fact that Central Banks and governments around the world are stacking gold at record levels reinforces the idea that when the fiat scam fails, the world will revert to the always-trusted precious metal monetary system.

In Kamakura, Japan in 1252, the Japanese people built a giant 100-ton bronze statue of the Buddha inside a wooden temple hall. In 1334, a great storm knocked down the building but left the statute untouched. The temple hall surrounding the statute was rebuilt only to be knocked down in a storm again in 1369. The temple hall was rebuilt yet again but a tsunami in 1498 washed it away, leaving the giant bronze statute still in place where you may see it today. You can think of fiat money like the wooden temple structures and gold and silver money like the great bronze statute that emerges from every storm and endures.

>>53279596
>Should I avoid silver and gold bars? I keep reading some places are really fussy about those

Coins are the best, they have security features and in some places are capital gains tax free. Read this noob guide, it will get you started.

>>53283185
Jesus, you have my sympathy fren

>>53278882
What’s the point of collecting shiny rocks if you’re not a millionaire already?

>>53280160
>The only people who hold physical gold are conspiracy theorists.
>Is this a true statement?

Bankers must be the biggest conspiracy theorists of them all if that's the case.

I just want gold and silver coins, and jewels all so I can sleep on top of it like a big dragon. I don't want to be rich to buy stuff I just think having a hoard that I can sleep on would be kinda neat.

>>53283512
Thanks for the suggestion. After sleeping on it, I think I'm going to pursue getting a proper gun safe and bolting it to the ground. I'll go to a lock and safe store and speak to someone on Monday.

>>53283627
>a melted glob of mixed metals is just as liquid as individual coins
Anon...

>>53283123
>fuck FDR
Hear hear, holding Rosie’s is cucked.

>>53282148
Everyone looks down on bottle cap stackers

>>53285132
Correct, but you can just ref-rame the question in terms of purchasing power. The question is about what a certain amount of gold/silver buys you, like how many egss or how many blowjobs. In that sense PMs are almost certainly going to go "through the roof" some time in the future.

>bottle cap stocking

Is it a real thing? I've never heard such a thing aside from Fallout larping.

>>53285490
>Everyone looks down on bottle cap stackers

Kangz of the bottlecappers have examples worth more than their weight in gold. This one I found is likely from around 1906 and from a formerly famous local brewery that closed in 1919, i was offered $250 for it but no lowballs, us capchads know what we got.

>>53285500
I agree that the remonetization of PMs is likely, and will almost certainly dramatically increase the exchange rate with other goods and services. I just think it is a bad habit to think of the value of PMs in terms of fiat. It's like trying to build a house using a rubber tape measure.

>>53285630
No one is going to buy your rusty discolored bottle caps anon, you dont have to lie to us.

>>53285490
Spoken like someone without any bottlecaps.

>>53279787
Only real top signal would be imf liquidating their massive holdings. If IMF is holding, you probably want to hold.

>>53285648
It's a small market but a particularly competitive and autistic one, kinda like Big Bob's obscure mining town tokens which can go for thousands each. No one will buy your modern niggardly caps but pre-prohibition caps are very rare because so few survived, boomer collectors go nuts for them.

>>53278965
Stacklet reporting

The keychain is just for flexing, seeing other people's stacks is very inspiriing

>>53278965

>>53285676
>Spoken like someone without any bottlecaps.

Caplets gonna seethe. I've always thought it would be interesting to make a colorful vest or something out of a bunch of different bottle caps, each one attached with a metal ring through the skirt to its 6 neighbors. Wear that to the right bar and the craft beer hipsters will line up to donate their collections to you.

>>53285802
Other part of my stack

>>53285705
>modern niggardly caps

Your comment makes sense, thanks for the explanation, anon. Also thanks for using the word "niggardly", I forgot that word existed and I can't stop laughing, it's probably the funniest word in the entire English.

Collecting modern bottle caps just seems like hobo tier to me.

>>53285836
That's actually a great idea, my plan was to make an enamel table top or coffee table with the caps in the enamel.

>>53285632
Fair enough. Also, your Kamakura story was interesting.

>>53285836
Like pic related with the design

>>53281262
I can't confirm or deny, but if you get one get a certified safe it is worth the extra money

Please sir, can I have some more cheapies?

>>53286066
a dip normally happens around march or spring time don't worry

>>53285967
This is the way, but with the caps perfectly arranged I can't have the caps all haphazard for the rest of my days

>>53284233
Checked, nice pepe.

I want to buy some silver today but I’m worried prices are gonna go down,

>>53282553
Stackers gonna stack?

>>53282553
Stack uppers for variety.

>>53286192
Nice brindle rug, anon.

>>53286119
Premiums will go up to compensate.

>>53286192
What's your dream upper? Or do you already have a DD upper?

Hey, these are some fine looking meme lines

>>53286279
I have avoided spending $1800 for a KAC 11.5” sr-15 upper, but God, do I want one.

>>53286338
I don't know what any of this means...

>>53286338
i have no idea what im looking at
but i just bought some more silver anyways

>>53286391
I haven’t bought any since friday

Anyone listen to the JRE episode #1921 with Peter Zeihan? He talks a good bit about Russia and China and he predicts they will both collapse in the next 10 years and that America will have a renaissance of growth and development the likes of which we've never seen. Pretty interesting takes that I haven't heard before, and it goes completely against what all the gold stackers have been predicting (that BRICS will unveil a gold-backed world-reserve currency and the US and the USD will collapse).

For anyone who listened or who's read is his book, I'm curious what your reaction is. I think he makes some interesting points that I hadn't considered.

>>53281065
How much is in that goblet thing on the left?

>>53283627
yeah but your passport isn't fire proof, nor is your social security card, birth certificate, harddrives full of scat porn, fiat, Mein Kampf first editions, signed copies of Celine Dion CDs, piss jar from your favorite cam girl, and in your case, shit covered nigger dildos

>>53286422
>passport
you must be jabbed to care about that one

>>53280160
In the United States, probably true. The US gov says Gold is not money nor valuable, so if you like Gold you distrust the government.

>>53286467
>The US gov says
stopped reading right there

>>53286414
Any more of a qrd? That sounds unlikely to me but I enjoy reading opposite viewpoints what is the book called?

America's prosperity over the past 200 years was largely due to stumbling upon prime virgin land in the most geographically advantageous location on earth. They have been able to coast on that and set up themselves as a world power for now, but any sort of "resurgence" would have to come from some ground-breaking revolution in technology (probably energy production). As of now we have hit diminishing returns on most everything and will continue to slowly become poorer and experience lowered quality of life. China and Russia may collapse, but the US is going along with them the days of easy abundance are long gone

>>53286489
Gold has no purpose nowadays when better alternatives like crypto exist. Gold and silver are barbaric relics and are not considered currency any longer.

>>53286640
Oh shit! Have you gotten this information to the world's central banks that are buying this worthless metal? They need to hear this, like, right now.

>>53281065
Zimbabwe currency-check
Silver bullet-multiple checks
Reichsmark-check
Anime figurine-check
Den of thieves bar- check
Just get yourself an apputania and you’ll have completed the meme stack challenge

>>53280260
VF30 details

>>53286467
The US government literally mints coins with monetary denominations on them. Also no one should trust the gov no matter what your political affiliation, doesn't matter if you support Trump or Nancy Pelosi when the culling starts they will push you in the wood chipper regardless. You can probably count on one hand all the politicians who truly care for the American people and they will never be given a meaningful position of power because of that.

>>53286667
They’re trying to get rid of it to kind of force us to adapt to better tech, since we are all in monkey shiny mode. They gotta take it off our hands to advance the species. .

>>53286719
>They’re trying to get rid of it
All the more reason to buy it, enjoy your santa claus coins tho.

>>53286414
>it goes completely against what all the gold stackers have been predicting (that BRICS will unveil a gold-backed world-reserve currency & the USD will collapse).

Not quite. What stackers have been saying is that BRICS seeks to replace the US dollar as the world's currency because the whole world is sick of the United States using it as political leverage as well as breaking away from the insane currency printing the US does. This requires a huge amount of effort because the US isn't going to take this lying down, especially when it currency has the most powerful army on the planet. I'll list some key parts that BRICS needs to do to be a success.

1. Brazil, Russia, India, China & South Africa have all agreed with a shared basket of currencies that are backed by around 30 different types of commodities.
2. If other countries want to join they just have to do the same, back their currency with one of these types of commodities.
3. It's a massive undertaking to shift away from systems such as SWIFT, but countries like Russia & India are already exchanging commodities under this new system.
4. Russia has near zero debt, China has probably more gold than is letting the world know (around 30,000 tons making it the largest sovereign hold on the planet).
5. Saudi has said that it views China as their main trading partner for next 50 years. This is the biggest development so far because the US dollar is backed by the Petrodollar which could shift to the Petroyuan.
6. Nearly all production of goods is in the East, the West has largely been de-industrialized. This means it not competitive and is dependent on the East.
7. Countries that want to join BRICS will have fresh credit ratings. They can drop the US dollar debt without credit repercussions.
8. If a success the US & the Anglosphere nations will be locked out of 80% of the world economy. That's total financial collapse. No more fake wealth, the west will be in a debt death spiral to what South America is now.

>>53286719
They're not advancing the species, they are simply trying to stay in control of the wealth-extraction mechanism.
The problem they are going to have is that the amount of economic losses are going to be staggering and they may be able to coax people into the new currency system but they can only recapitalize everyone through extreme rationing. The losses will be spread out to those exposed to debt/leverage, and the safety that hard commodities will represent will be well understood. The market will ultimately determine what unfolds next, and there is no guarantee that the political situation will stay intact for them to restart the next grift.

>>53286719
I could see that, what with (((their))) long history of looking out for the common man and all.

>>53284883
I agonized whether to buy that or not (and didn't). I'm glad to see someone did, and thanks for the pic.
Apmex is fine as far as reliability and trustworthiness. They're just very slow in accepting ACH (5 working days - same as if you were using a paper check. ?!?!) and their prices are consistently on the high side.

Anyone else have any of the Eyes of the World series?
How do you think the bear came out?
Personally, I think it's decent. The serpent and the owl are still cooler, but despite them making the bear face straight toward the viewer like the last two coins, I think the rest of the facial details give it a kind of relaxed/neutral expression as opposed to the dumb wide-eyed looks of the tiger and elephant.

>>53286414
This is nonsense. Russia and China can both collapse overnight but they have the productive capacity to pick back up and resume their economy. America's service economy can collapse with extremely limited ability to dig ourselves back out of it. Our economy is extremely dependent on energy, we are a service economy that can stall out very easily, and many public works programs are being financed with taxes coming from a dangerously overleveraged real estate market. We are so saturated with debt and leverage that a deflationary depression could last for decades with people losing out on social security, medicare, medicaid, pensions, 401ks. It's all propped up with debt that is unsustainable.
Also, we are the beneficiaries of a $700BN trade deficit. This is a subsidy to the U.S. economy in that we can then leverage those goods into corporate profits, jobs and taxes. If we return to a net-zero trade balance we will be the ones collapsing. China and Russia can consume their production themselves, there is no magic law of the universe that anyone NEEDs the american consumer. Once the U.S. bond market collapses things are going to change drastically, and most people will have their necks snapped at how dramatic this new paradigm is hoisted upon us.

>>53286757
Also there's this handy chart. I'm of the opinion that it will be either Japan or the United Kingdom that will be the catalysis that breaks the debt pyramid after countries like Saudi Arabia drop their petrodollar.

>>53286414
Zeihan is a demonic deep state man bun faggot who is literally cheering for mass death and population collapse and AI taking over the world. Fuck that shill

>>53286153
Thank you for noting that. I was contemplating how much cooler it would have looked organized.

>>53286600
Checked. It'll be hard for me to do a QRD justice, but here goes.
>China and Russia have a demographic crisis
>younger generations are way too small
>Russia needs access to strategic geographies to sustain its existence
>Ukraine war is Russia's final hail-marry attempt
>even if they win they can't hold all the land they need to cause their infrastructure is shit and they lack the manpower
>China imports more food and energy than any other nation
>impending fertilizer crisis = food crisis = food-importing nations are fucked
>centralization and totalitarianism in both nations have created government rot, removed any contenders for successors, and created feedback loops of lies and misinformation that result in bad decision making
>both nations lack the skilled labor to produce vital things, so when Westerners pull out (energy companies from Russia and semiconductors from China), the native populations can't even maintain what was left behind
Meanwhile the US has
>biggest energy exporter in the world
>biggest food exporter in the world
>we make our own fertilizers
>highest-skilled labor in the world
>neighboring Mexico is our biggest trade partner and they excel in medium-skill production
>neighboring Canada also has high-skilled workforce and produces energy and fertilizer

So basically, when SHTF Russia and China will collapse, many nations around the world will starve to death, and the US and our close friends will thrive. I highly recommend giving the episode a listen. Not sure if he's right about it all, but it's refreshing to break free from the schizo echo chamber and hear some different insights. Listen to different perspectives and make up your own mind.

>>53278882

Anons your participation needed, post advices, stacks and infographics

Global Hyperinflation General /GHG/ >>>/pol/412299333

>>53286857
The petrol dollar being dropped is profound. The world is saturated in dollars and debts that cannot even be repaid, and America can't even sustain itself without printing and spending TRILLIONS of dollars. We're rolling down the exponential slope and real-world scarcity of commodities will expose the paper-ponzi for what it is.
Everyone needs to step back and appreciate how important the bond market is. The stock market can crash overnight and it only hurts individuals. However, the counterparty nature of bonds implies that MASSIVE payments of cash(resources) are owed all over the place to everyone. The capacity for everything to collapse due to counterparty failure is 100% certainty. All of our economic productivity is being hidden and tucked away and exposed to these debts. Every time you do a little bit of work you tuck it away in a 401k until you are 65. You lose money to SS, you lose money to insurance who then goes and buys bonds and MBS. None of this money is being invested, it's being CONSUMED and all you have is a bogus IOU. It's all trash. You and I and everyone are the coal being tossed into the oven to further a globalist terraforming venture. Nothing about this economy is here to make your life better, in fact, they actively try to impoverish you to COMPEL you to work harder and longer. And your little nest-egg waiting for you at retirement age will be worth pennies on the dollar

Redpill me on Goldbacks? I just found out about them the other day, and for someone like me who doesn't make an outstanding amount of money, they seem like an interesting way for me to get into owning gold without totally clearing myself out. Not to mention they're quite pretty.

However, while I understand that they are technically intrinsically valuable due to being made with gold, the fact that they're only manufactured in four states and not considered legal tender anywhere else concerns me a little. If I wanted to sell them again in the future is anyone going to buy them, or will they scoff at them as some sort of failed meme?

This probably seems like a stupid question to most of you, but I've been a slave to heavy debt for quite some time and have only recently been able to think about what I should be doing with money other than paying off balances.

>>53287005
Goldbacks are neat, and I have some myself. That being said I wouldn't start with them, you arengoing to pay multiples over what the gold content or even the face denomination is for example see pic related it contains .05 oz of gold.

>>53287005
Goldbacks were designed mostly to appeal to those who believe in the wothlessness or at least imminent collapse of local gov't-issued monies (fiat). Their cost prices the gold content at just under twice spot. If you're looking to stack, there are much better buys. If you like the art and novelty, they won't empty your wallet.

>>53287005

They are forever a gay gimmick.

Just eat the premium and get 1/4 ounce coins if you aren't patient enough to save for a 1 ounce.

I finally finished it

>>53287005
There are some anons here who like them but to me they're mostly a novelty item. Buy a couple if you think they're pretty but do not think about them as an investment. Bottom line, they're essentially very high premium (like double over spot) fractional gold pieces, where the element is a pain in the ass to extract.
I think about it this way - if I buy gold at spot, I essentially don't pay anything. I can pay goldback-tier premiums, but only for historical numismatic gold. Therefore I'd only ever buy goldbacks if I wanted a collection of them for numismatic appeal.
If you want small amounts of cheap gold, you have some options such as common historical pieces like 20 Franc LMU coins, which you can grab for as low as 1-2% over spot (so like $400). That or you can go jewellery hunting (as long as you know how it works)
If you don't have a couple hunnids to spend at a time, I recommend you just go for silver

>>53287171

>>53287171
Welcome to the precious metals general anon

>>53287182
>that pic

mfw no dragon gf to share stack with

>>53287005
Just buy one of each of the “one” unit ones. Then the “five” from Wyoming with the “you just know” girl and her horse.

I have about 25 units worth in mostly ones. Plus I’m in England where they have even less use. I like them because they look cool. Regret buying so many as added up I wasn’t far off a 1/2 sov.

That aputannia finally just sold for 500 Canadian on eBay.

>>53287361
How many usd is that, 30?

>>53287301
I don't regret getting any, look at it as £100 worth of shinies vs a rubbish night out at spoons. I've been showing some to family and coworkers too calling it the opposite of bitcoin, they perk up when they read "legal tender" and finally take the /pmg/ pilll

>>53287466
Kek, 388.90 freedom units.

>>53287519
/pmg/ sourced bullion products are an easy 10x

>>53287466
no idea. £300 bong bux for me.
Just did a conversion. $375 ish plus postage.

>>53287473
Yeah they make a good background. Although spoons do now do katsu curry. I sold a couple of duplicates to a m8 at work who had a grand kid born in one of the same years so it was something cool to get them..

>>53287221
better that than one day waking up without half of your stack

>>53287187
>>53287197
What did I miss?

>>53287673
Nothing crazy, someone from the physical games general got lost and posted a game map.

>>53286401
I haven't bought any in a month, but I did order my first ounce of gold. WOOOOOHOOOOO!!!

>>53286414
He's talking about a collapse of the globalist world financial system which will fail in those 2 Countries aswell as every other Country around the world, if he's trying to make it out that it will only be a Russian/Chinese thing then he sounds like another deep state khazarian controlled spook and manipulator.

He's right about a renaissance of growth but it will be Russia and China leading it and the failed globo homo west conceding defeat and having to go along with it.

I bought 10 ASE last night
Do you think buying 5 ounces a week sounds like a good start for filling up my jars?
I only need 44 ounces to fill really.
And with gold going up should I wait or buy another ounce?
I feel like something is imminent...

>>53284883
thanks

>>53284217
oh the WhItE pOwDeR? thorium oxide

>>53288055
>I feel like something is imminent
Get used to it

>>53283156
Surprised you haven't gotten one yet. Also I haven't checked GEC anyone still getting RM's off there?

>>53288205
well i'm partial because I hate the late queen's mug on it

no rms on gec afaik but they do have engelhards, just at a rediculous $36. they were $30 last time I bought from them

I've started to invest in gold, I plan on having 20% of my savings in gold by december instead of 1% now kek

whats the ratio we're gunning for?

>>53288302
I stopped looking a while ago after I got my 10 5RM's to be honest

>>53281331
sorry i missed you earlier, been busy.
Yes it is worth pursuing, but not every field in geology gets you very far. What are you specifically interested in pertaining to geology?

So I see the importance of these as backups/just-in-case means.
How would you recommend spending 11K and why?

>>53288370
A few questions. What is your firearm situation like? I would drop 1.5k~ on a rifle/handgun. The obvious is an ar platform you can have a PSA ar + decent optic for around 700 then handgun is personal preference I would go glock or sig m17/m18. Then a few hundred worth of ammo for them.
Beyond that I would get 2oz gold, then the rest in silver and maybe 2k in bonds.

This is assuming you have all of your other investments in order.

>>53288455
Thanks, I'll look into that heading.

>>53278986
Do with that goblin whatever I want, because it wouldn't matter.
Since they don't exist, I must be asleep.

>>53278882
silver has boobs? o_O

>>53288335
nice pic. yeah i havent gotten new pms (aside from mintanon) in like a year

>>53287005
they're beautiful and i love the symbolism many of them had. they're "voluntary currency" but i think the states that issued them are trying to push for them to be used more.
the way they get made for a state is someone (or people) has to raise X money/people in a state. I looked into it for Louisiana and it came out to iirc 250k because of the low population.

the premiums on them are incredible but i'm hoping over time those premiums decrease as more states and better tech join.
that said, as you can see, i own a good amount and i do try to use them for trades just to get the idea of gold as money back into peoples heads.
am i wasting a lot? yes. can i afford it? yes, so why not. i wouldn't make this the mainstay of my stack and as others said: just save up for a 1/4 ounce if you can't wait.

i also give them out as gifts and the shiny gold really does awaken something in the monkey brain.

Any coinfags here that can help my id this coin I got in a box of world coins?
Is brass or bronze alloy. I tested it for gold and if it is gold its less pure than 9k.

>>53288677
other side
slightly bigger than a us quarter and thinner.

>>53278882
im sorry this comic was not done with an AI it is definitely not future money.

>>53287005
here's my old pasta

essentially microfilm gold between plastic. designed to be used as voluntary currency instead of fiat. technologically, the smallest and most affordable fractional gold. entry-level and very normie-friendly
while the smallest denom of 1/1000oz goes for close to $4, they can be used to purchase ~$4 worth of goods/services. so the premium you'd be buying still holds when you "sell"
they're also super kino

>value
Average retail price
(though the old formula still works pretty well if you add another $0.60)
Old formula: $1.1 + (spot / 1000) * 1.155

>general info
https://goldback.com/
https://youtu.be/O5zyqKuqJ3o

>states
(legal tender within as voluntary currency, but able to be bartered with elsewhere)
Utah
Nevada
New Hampshire
Wyoming
*South Dakota

>durability
https://youtu.be/LT-NW8vfb3M
https://youtu.be/JJ31IjtXtik

>examples of use
https://youtu.be/nQrbaSWdiHs
https://youtu.be/HCsJxk3mV70

>answers to retarded questions
Can it be melted down? https://youtu.be/8rhO7TRp6z8 (2:00)

>available
defythegrid.com - cheapest prices for low denoms
bullionexchanges.com
jmbullion.com
goldback.com/how-to-get-goldbacks

>>53286857
Damn this chart must be a few years old too

>>53288745
>Average retail price
>(though the old formula still works pretty well if you add another $0.60)
>Old formula: $1.1 + (spot / 1000) * 1.155
I don't understand your retail price formula. As far as I see, it is basically at least 1.8 x spot.
Pic related.

>>53288745
based goldback enjoyer

>>53288840
Yeah, the first one I could find goes all the way back to 2017.

>>53288745
(Sorry if you saw my now-nuked first post - had some errors)
>Old formula: $1.1 + (spot / 1000) * 1.155
I don't understand this. It's basically 1.8 times the spot price of gold. Pic related.

>>53288845
>>53288972
its the value of the goldback that certified vendors must accept as per goldback.com as the exchange rate with USD
Right now its $3.99. the company has their own means of calculating it but it is "based off average retail price"
it used to be determined by said formula
since then up to last time I checked (earlier this year), the formula was still decently accurate if you add another 60-70 cents to the result

of course vendors can accept goldbacks at an exchange rate higher, but certified ones are not allowed to devalue it. non-certified vendors can do whatever they want. and out of their state they can only be used technically as barter

the formula basically represented the average cost of an AGE (spot and premium) plus manufacturing costs of the goldbacks

>>53288869
based goldback appreciator

>>53288751
>Hatsune Miku Electric Blue Ramen
>Iconic Blue Broth
Why does this exist? Do you really need that much food coloring?

>100oz of silver used to buy you a 15 year old virgin wife, 50 acre homestead, and several dozen animals

where did it all go wrong...

>>53289007
Oh! I had no idea there were even de facto standard guidelines. Thanks!

I’m in silver for the tech

>>53288600
Checked and holy based pic!

>>53289023
Reported to the ADL

>>53288455
Get one of PSAs premium uppers with the FN chrome barrel, they have pretty good deals on them sometimes

>>53289039
yeah see https://www.goldback.com/featured-businesses

>>53289192
Honestly they are an awesome platform. If you are trying to build a 2k rifle it may not be the spot to start, or it might be. You could buy a complete psa rifle and upgrade your bolt/barrel/gas system and probably still be under budget.

>>53288600
If it ever happens I hope the communities we are part of engage in trade in the future Anon.

>>53280387
Bruh no way is that getting ms60

>>53280628
Only ones I’d get rid of are the shitty commemoratives

>no more cheapies

>>53278882
Is there someone in this thread with experience in buying gold and silver from Italy?

>>53288600
>>53289436
yeah they're super kino. I like giving as gifts or tips

>>53289528
Ask it in the next one

>>53289554
>>53289554
>>53289554

Coin show haul, paid $20 face on the halves and $19 on the dimes.

>>53286420
Not much, it's just gold leaf.

Shiny rock tongue my anus

>>53285676
ill say it again i lke being a trend setter

>>53289382
Yeah, a 20” psa premium upper w/an FN barrel and geissele rail is what, 7 or 800 bucks? You could build out the rest w/a VLTOR, decent trigger, BCG, and all the other shit and still have money for a case of m193 and probably a lot more.

>>53286999
checked and underated.

>>53289436
well i've said before and i'll say it again: if silver and gold moon and i can finally get a large plot of land then anyone holding a /pmg/ coin will always have a place on my land.
and the /mlp/ holders can stay in the stables.

>>53280718
>>53280608
Nice

>>53286999
>>53290222
Double check

>>53289723
That’s a killer deal. I gotta go to coinshows

>>53281149
>where are my anime enjoyers at?
you'll get a chance to meet them in hell when you finally decide to suck on that 1/7 twist.