/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>53229008

>>53229008
I think at this point the vote is unanimous for pic related

If I make any profits from crypto, should I use some of that to invest into Gold or other precious metals?

>>53229073
shinnies are a hedge against inflation not a way to make money.

>>53229008
>>53229070
I like that design

>>53229070
I'm in favor of that design as well

>>53229099
Right on. So, as a store of value should I buy gold instead of locking money into a bank account kind of thing? Is that because Gold doesn't fluctuate in its inherit value? Am I getting this right?

>>53229070
>>53229106
>>53229141
How do I buy? I remember seeing the first one and backing out of buying a few because I wanted "get" numbers and they were all taken or weren't guaranteed... bad choice. Oh well. I want this one. I'm just a Link marine that also stacks silver/gold.

>>53229141
>>53229008
>>53229106
>>53229070
yea I'm for OP's design too.

>>53229144
It is a way of saving money, or rather storing wealth, a long term solution which will not suffer from inflation unlike cash. Personally that is my main reason for stacking. I find that I spend cash I intend on saving way too easy, but really do not want to part with anything I stacked.

>>53229070
>>53229106
>>53229141
>>53229162
>>53229175

Just setup a strawpoll for it if you lads want to vote so Mintanon knows what direction to go with.

https://strawpoll.com/polls/3RnYp22OQye

>>53228612
If you'd like to send an email to the one on the site I can check in

>>53229162
I'll link you the "I've spent too much time on 4chan" and know how to intra-link link
>>53219253

What is the preferred way to buy gold in the US? 1oz coins? 10 oz bars? I might wait for it to dip under 20.00 before I put in 1000.00 or 2000.00 Main concern is fakes. thank you for your time. I want to get 100 oz of silver.

>>53229255
fuck me i meant silver!!!! not gold.

>>53229213
Anyone have pictures of the other designs for late comer? Haven't gotten a pmg round since aputannia but dig that design

>>53229293
>>53229243
they are all still up on the board atm in this post's link to the last /pmg/ thread

>>53229293
In the previous thread, go look.

>>53229144
>Gold doesn't fluctuate in its inherit value
it can yea. if nothing happens you have a very nice store of wealth when you retire. if you expect shit to implode like most people itt you want silver for basic barter
>hey bro i want this bread and 2 gallons of milk can you make change for this gold coin?
walks out jingling like a hobos wet dream

>>53229008
The New Crusader would be a fine addition.

>>53229280
1oz coins, specifically eagles. The premium on them suck but will always sell over spot

>>53229233
Alright thanks

>>53229575
1 oz silver eagles? is there anything you can say to back it up? Ill look into it more. What sort of premium ballpark should i expect per ASE? just a ballpark?

>>53229255
Fakes are not a concern if you buy from a reputable dealer. Waiting for a dip is probably not worth the risk, IMHO. I'll let others talk about bars versus coins.

>>53229601
Just experience desu. The bulk of my stack are every variation of government issued 1oz bullion except eagles. When it comes time to sell (which I only do when it comes time for a new motorcycle) those coins sell for $1 over spot typically. A lot has to do with the way those coins get milk spots over time. I spend a lot of time at my LCS and I see them buy eagles for $5-6 over spot fairly often.
However, the premium on coins like wieners and brits are often much lower than eagles, so it really does balance itself out.
The big thing with eagles though, is THEY DONT GET MILK SPOTS. the premium is usually $8-10

The universe works in mysterious ways lads. In the anime I'm watching the mc gets gold coins as a gift from her anonymous benefactor. The next day I randomly go to LCS. Lo and behold there's a 1912 gold coin at a great price waiting there just for me that I snap up.
Must've been a sign from God.

remind me, are gold eagles or gold jewelry more safe from the govt/seizures/courts?

>>53229575
Just buy whats cheapest. As longs as its from a big dealer fakes are not a concern.

>>53229783
>he's concerned about government seizures

>>53229783
Idk why you would want to tell anyone that could take advantage of you which valuables you have

>>53229783
I really dont think you have to worry about that. If it comes down to that just drill a hole in it and its a pendant classified as jewellery.

>>53229760
post pic and price

>>53230305
1912 Canadian $5. Similar looking condition to this pic. I posted in a previous thread

>>53230305
>>53230388
Was $650 CAD taxes in. Imo pretty good considering melt value is like $610

how can people claim theres a silver shortage when, i just watched yankee tour of SD bullion and they are shown getting regular deliveries of literally pallets of 1000 ounce bars, hundred ounce bars, and shelves and shelves and shelves of monster boxes of brits, roos, silver eagles etc, and this is one of the smaller online dealers compared to jm, apmex, etc

G'evening, anons

>>53229008
to mintAnon regarding design:
gold plating is fun, but shouldn't be overdone. Certainly don't plate his cross. Personally I don't think aputemplar should have a gold crown either, in which case I would just gild his coins and definitely the frogs on the reverse. I wouldn't gild anything else
The dotted circle on the reverse is typically seen on coins on the outermost rim as well, on both obverse and reverse. I would do that, and remove the dots between the latin to clean it up a bit

>>53230428
>how can people claim theres a silver shortage
Most people are stupid parrots repeating catchphrases they read off Reddit. What's actually happening is that registered silver in the COMEX vault is being sold and delivered faster than it is being produced from the mines at a record breaking pace. This trend is pointing to a silver shortage in the near future. This is not guaranteed, it's speculation like all stock, but the early bird is tweeting to get some before the crack up boom because you won't be able to get any at that point.

>>53230577
what's that powder in the vials?

>>53230577
Figured you were dead from radiation poisoning. Been a while since you've posted, fren.

>>53230617
cock dust

>>53230577
Comfy pic

>>53230388
Looking good sirs. How do taxes on bullion work in Canadia?

>>53230577
The coins should be silver since the latin inscription saves literally "with sword and SILVER"
So he should have a silver coin stack. And the crown and both crosses are a no-brainer (Christian religious symbology importance, since its Crusader Apu), all three should be gold, IMO. And the reverse cross should be gold instead of the frogs for symmetry with the cross on the obverse.

Got my birthday to look forward to soon. Any cool numisfag goodies to be on the hunt for? (around $250-$300 range)
I might just get some silver proof sets to fill my collection gaps, getting close to finishing the ATB series. I know the 2012 set is supposed to be about $130-$150. Might also try to get the 2018 reverse proof set. I got the 5ozt Bombay hook quarter last year and it was awesome, but I don't think I want another big quarter.

>>53230771
This

>>53230428
im with you on this. There is no silver shortage, you can go out and buy whatever you want right now. There was however a production shortfall because of covid and reasons and whatever schizo shit you can infer. You might not like the price you pay, but you can get whatever. It feels scammy, the wholesalers and dealers and jizzing in their panties over the legendary premiums they are getting right now. It feels coordinated tbqh-desu

>>53230428
Post video

>>53230707
PMs are tax free in Canada as long as it's .995 purity or higher for gold or platinum, or .999+ purity for silver. That's why buying junk is hardly ever worth it up here unless you get a killer price or the LCS is a bro and willing to cover the tax on it if you buy a lot at once.

>>53230428
During lockdowns and simultaneously the reddit squeeze, shops simply halted or throttled sales of things that quickly ran out of inventory and/or were hard to resupply, even if they still have plenty of stock. In a time of scarcity they need to think of a long term strategy and prevent being sold out in a couple of days due to a fomo craze and loose their steady income as a result.

>>53230791
I want a 5oz Hawaii quarter so badly

>>53230577
The coins should be silver since the latin inscription says literally "with sword and SILVER"
So he should have a silver coin stack. And the crown and both crosses are a no-brainer (Christian religious symbology importance, since its Crusader Apu), all three should be gold, IMO. And the reverse cross should be gold instead of the frogs for symmetry with the cross on the obverse.

>>53230885
Cool, at least its not cucked in this area.

>>53230791
How many games of Galaga does that thing get you?

>>53229723
My mother has 3 silver eagles milk spotted to hell.

>>53231052
I thought I read that they solved the milk spot problem, or was that the Maples?

>>53231105
It would be news to me. I think they only recently (past couple of years) discovered that milkspotting was caused by their poor planchet preparation. Maybe they've fixed it already.

>>53231105
Milkspotting seems to happen to all types of bullion. Ignore it it doesn't effect the value. The value is in the silver not whats on the round.

>>53230617
oh, you mean the WHITE POWDER?
thorium oxide, supposedly

>>53230645
no, not even the leaking radon has killed me yet

>>53230694
thanks

>>53230982
fair with the coins. I just meant a templar would NOT be wearing a golden crown. but if I had to choose, crown + frogs, not the crosses

>>53230577
any luck shorting the solar panel makers?

>>53230577
t. satanist

>>53229008
crusader apu looks good. im very doubtful about the grass under his feet. gild the crown if you must but nothing else.

back design is awful. replace frogs with /pmg/s, remove /pmg/ from center of the cross. unify diamond tile with cross. alternatively have P in upper left, M in upper right, G in lower left, and leave clover in bottom right.

>>53229213
Only 15 votes but looking like one way traffic so far.

>>53231569
>replace frogs
t. frog hater

>>53230791
Proof sets are cool, except 2007 is retarded

>>53231569
1/10 trolling attempt is fail

>>53231386
its a long game. not shorting, just investing
I should probably buy some more soon to be honest

>>53231569
the p m g clover would be cool yeah. don't mind the frogs though

>>53231709
nah, just abysmal taste, probably

>>53231608
i dunno it looks pretty different for me

>>53231787
lmao, how organic...I can go on my phone and rig the vote too. In fact I will do just that in a bit, I will add 15 back to the it was before someone voted 15 times. Give me a second

>>53230941
i want a goatsee pinksocking coin too

>>53231787
I haven't even seen a mock up with the cross, frogs, and clovers on the back all being gold.
Seems like it might be a little busy, but maybe not. Any anons want to mock up what that would look like?

>>53231780
Probably the same guy who comes in to every design thread, says he loves the design but, wants to change everything.

>>53231828
Stop watching porn

>>53231828
I'd like to pre-order a tube please.

bros…the trannies at work were talking about asteroid mining and how metals were dumb. its all so tiresome

I don't know how organic the sudden reversal and continuing surge of a different design then OP's. But I made some edits to the other ones and came up with this design that I hope is true to the wishes of the strawpoll. So it has the gold frogs, cross and clovers. I also made two versions with the solid gold cross versus the center piece without gold too.

I like OP's version best
>>53229008

>>53229008
>>53232040
>>53232062
I'd be fine with any of these honestly.

>>53232040
This one

>>53229213
75+ votes
>36 UUID ITT
lmao, I thought at first it was not someone rigging the votes, but I don't think we have a 1:1 lurker/poster composition. That ALL voted in some niche poll that not every poster is going to be involved with. LMAO, I think he just wants it for the extra milligrams of gold it will have. Kek

>>53232209
stop being a fag. the people have spoken.

>>53232268
It's whatever, I like all the designs that have been posted in the thread so far.

>>53231909
I do agree with him that the grass is a little sus looking.

>>53232268
no. I didn't vote

hahaha did the strawpoll blow up from being so corrupt. haha its a 404 for me.

>>53232355
Same here.
Also checked.

I don't care about the gold regardless because I'm getting an all silver one

Just got my anpan coins, goddamn they’re nice

>>53232539
this is all an elaborate plot to get my precious personal info isn't it? want me to try to buy one eh?

>>53232355
>https://strawpoll.com/polls/3RnYp22OQye
Same

>>53232040
Definitely this one.

>>53230941
Mine's a bit scratchy.

>>53232666
satan pls, I know your tricks, your the last 1ppid artificially bumping the design you stacked in the poll.

At least put some effort into making it into looking like a regular anon that would be interested in the coin. For example, make a comment about the design and why you like it, or dislike the other design, something, anything. To make you look less like samefag with a VPN.

and if by the off chance you aren't a samefag, why do you prefer the newer designs over the simpler OP design? Don't you think all that gilded gold is busy as hell?

>>53229070
Yes.

>>53232747
>leaving a partial fingerprint easily readable on a shiny surface on the left side of the coin on a pic you took.....

Anon, I know it's not a full blown print, but try to be more careful. Maybe you don't care about doxing yourself, but I like to try to warn people I like about OPSEC.

>>53232788

>>53232788
he planted the coin purposely. but why?

>>53230428
Those pallets of 1000 ounce bars are coming out of the comex tho. Thats the shortage that matters.

>>53232824
Nah, there really isn't much pain involved in OPSEC if you do it right.

>>53232764
Oh shit, is this not Hellchan? My mistake. Anyway, a few confessions: I AM using a VPN, but not for samefag purposes; pretty sure this is actually my first post in this thread. I couldn't vote in the poll because of the VPN and my refusal to turn it off.

As for the design, I don't think it's too busy. Use too little gilding and there's no real point in having it, too much and it looks bad. Scale it down to coin size and the amount of gold won't look so imposing, I think.

>>53229141
>I'm in favor of that design as well
me, too

>>53232855
Ok, my only beef with the one you pointed out is that there isn't a balance between the two sides. And I think a possible solution is to have half the coins on the obverse be gold. And you are right about the scale. The design with more gilding could work.

>picrel

Maybe someone more creative can do a better job. But that's the idea.

>>53229008
for the record I vote for this still, I was just making designs as they came up. And I think OP's is the best looking one.

>>53232927
>have half the coins on the obverse be gold
I like it in theory, but I'm dubious about how that would show up once minted. What about making the sword gold if we're adding more gilding to balance things? The round does say "with SWORD and silver," right?

>>53232953
>how that would show up once minted
they apply it after minting, iirc

>>53232953
I guess it could work, but usually gold is a really bad weapon material. So it would read as brass sword. And I think Crusader Apu could afford steel. Especially since he has a nice fat stack pictured. I would try to an example for you but it's beyond my paint skills.

>>53232988

+make
and with that I'm off, it's only going to get worse.

>>53232981
I meant once all was said and done and I was holding the shiny in my hands.

>>53232988
>I would try to an example for you but it's beyond my paint skills.
Scrub. Also, for Anon's consideration and likely improvement: golden stink lines that are totally supposed to represent a glow.

>>53229008
This is the best gilded version, just a small splash to shift the viewers focus

>>53229162
Google aputannia

>>53233054
Am I the only one who thinks /pmg/ looks better lower case?

>>53232767
stupid cripple

>>53229561
Yes, would love to see more like pic woth caption

"SOUND MONEY FOR A SOUND PEOPLE"

I think OP's pic is the way to go, the gilding accents the design nicely without being overbearing, to much gilding and we may as well just make the coin gold and be done with it.

this way

>>53233312
>coin gold
>gold coin

That honor is reserved for the janny round

>>53232209
I voted for just the cross to be guilded. I really wouldn't want so much gilding, it's excessive.

>>53233342
He said no colourization.

>>53233380
I like the janny coin, my concern with it being gold is how busy/detailed the design is. On a 1oz coin I think it would be fine and I wouldn't hesitate to pick one up but being gold I expect it will be a 1/2 or maybe even 1/4oz and being that small it may not come out very well.

>>53233054
Flames might be nice. In the non-gilded it would look better, and there'd be more 'glow' of flame in the gilded. Or maybe it looks like seaweed here.

>>53233215
>/pmg/ looks better lower case?
I think so too.

>>53233215
seconded

Mintanon should make the Krugerrand coin with the gigachad yes meme, the "Chadrand".

>>53231675
>didn't include the presidential dollars
>coin shop doesn't have the separate presidential dollar set except in an ultra-rare ultra-expensive and ultra-huge 2007 premier set

>>53233426
1/4 ounce coin

>>53233705
Yes and it looks great when you take a close up photo and blow it up so it's the size of a 1oz coin or bigger. In person though all the details are small and cramped, I don't think it looks nearly as good in such a small size. Look at the details on the dragon for instance, I mean really look at them and ask yourself if you didn't already know it was a dragon would you be able to tell it was a dragon and not a potato with sprouts sticking out of it? Just my personal opinion though.

Well, I went and did done it /pmg/.
I just spent 700 fucking dollars on a rare numismatic coin that I otherwise NEVER would of even considered buying in the first place.
And the reason why I even did it might not be what you think it is.

Why is PM crashing?!?! You all lied to me!!! ArGgGgGhgGhHhhhhHh!!! I’m ruined!!

>>53233776
>crashing
Yeah i dropped my Krug that one time and now it has these nasty scratches.

>>53233774
hotglue?

>>53231263
>a templar would NOT be wearing a golden crown
then only the cross on the reverse should be gilded and nothing else

>>53232927
>>53232040
>>53233054
>>53233480
these are absolutely hideous

>>53233776
>crashing
WTF are you babbling about?

>>53233776
Hahaha
Coins are the best performing asset ever.

>>53233774
>And the reason why
It was the last coin in the shop, and you FOMOed?

That seasonality chart some anon posted in the other thread, I decided to recreate it because the screencap was dogshit and I couldn't find the original source (possibly behind a paywall at Bloomberg). Because this has been created in a png image, it will be easier to update it in the future if I manage to get hold of the numbers.

Still searching for that one pocket that’s gonna make me rich - early morning sun edition.

>>53234192
Good luck bud! Its been warm for days on my end but no way to get out to the creeks with all the trails plugged up with snow.
I hope you find a chunk of that Au!

>>53230830
This

Post video

>>53232040
Overdoing it

>>53233215
well boards and threads have always typically been lower case. doesnt suit 4chin at all if its caps

doesnt look bad on the wagmius however.

Do you guys buy silver/gold that you think an LCS would want or do you buy something you like without caring? or both? or neither?

>>53234189
Thanks fren

>>53234503
i just buy whatever is cheapest desu. once in a blue moon ill get a coin that I like.

>>53234192
Well, that was underwhelming. No pirate treasure, but at least a pirate hook!
And a diving lead? WTF?

>tips on finding pre-1965 quarters and dimes at face value?
They seem hard to come by

>>53234503
I buy mostly junk and vintage bars
Being in a euro country has the advantage that lcs's have dumpsters full of old (silver) currency and some boomers who find their old hidden stash and sell it for euro's.
The alternative is buying high premium commemorative rounds and restrikes from the national mint who don't mind adding premiums from 100% to 1000% on their shop, or new paying for new bars with 20% VAT. It's not hard to find old stuff closer to spot. The old age gives character to the objects and I learn a little about history.

OP image is best for Crusader; don't want to overdo it. Could experiment making pmg lowercase though.

>>53234533
>>53234583
thx frens. I'm in ameriland and am considering getting a tube of silver. I debated if I should stick with eagles or literally anything else.

>stack silver

this confuses and enrages the jew

>>53234685
get one eagle for fondling and a tube of 1oz merc dimes or buffalos

>>53234583
Guldens are based and redpilled

>>53234208
>I hope you find a chunk of that Au!
10 tiny colors for about 10 pans of material. Last time I was at that spot, I had about 50 colors from way less material.
But not too dissapointed, kinda expected that, since all that wood and stuff clearly says that there's no heavies to be found.
However, I wanted to see if that changes in flood or if it was different once upon a time. Yes and no, I'd say.
>>53234538
That lead wheight (What is it? Really a divin lead? Any anons got an idea)) alone increased my lead findings by 1000% and I'm not sure about that other thing with a hole. Kinda looks like an axe (with the hole in the wrong orientation, though) and is very heavy, probably iron. Can't make sense of it, anyone got an idea what it could be?
But sadly, almost no gold.
Also, no coins (though those could have been filtered out by classifying), which I also found there twice.

>>53234583
>Being in a euro country has the advantage that lcs's have dumpsters full of old (silver) currency and some boomers who find their old hidden stash and sell it for euro's.
Really? Gotta see if there's some LCS at my city. The ones I've seen so far only look like they're focused on numismatics. Guess in order to make a good find, you gotta know what used to be common at your place.

>>53234793
>Being in a euro country has the advantage that lcs's have dumpsters full of old (silver) currency and some boomers who find their old hidden stash and sell it for euro's.
Yes that is correct, I also can confirm

>>53229008
This is the best design so far

wish oldsilver would come back soon

>>53233884
OP pic is the best. Everything else is just a waste of time

>got my gilded prospector but my yotsuba never arrived

>gold almost at 1900

Oh yeah. Bought almost at the low.

OP version is my choice.

How much for the gilded anyway?

>>53229070
I love it >>53229008
It’s going to be so timeless

>>53235227
take spot price of silver and multiply it by 6 if youre lucky

Oh.

>>53233480
What about lightening?

>>53233480

>>53232788
I'm not very worried, but I like the comfy tone of your message. Frens help frens.

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1613510307187691521?s=46&t=mkEgmyGCAJTuSQkLLY_5gg

LETS GOOOOOO

>>53233774
Welcome to the club , anon!

WAGMI

>>53236203
Who’s that guy? Never seen him before.

>>53236419
His name is on the coin anon.

>>53229073
It's good to have a base that you can't really lose money on. Gold and silver have performed pretty well now last year because everything else crashed but gold and silver held their value.

Move some money into it, have about 5-15% of your portfolio in gold and silver.

>>53236459
Who's a Dei Gra?

>>53234503
I keep it pretty standardized. In my opinion, I enjoy certain types and styles of PMs that are conducive to mass stacking. Art, or odd looking silver is not my style. 1oz rounds, 10oz bars, kilo and 100oz loafs and junk silver is what I prefer. Occasionally I will pick up different styles of rounds depending on if they are only a dollar or so above generic, but premium sets I stay away from.

We need k-on coins desu.

now that prospectors have been mailed out, is there any news on the boomers?

G O L D
O
L
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https://www.gainesvillecoins.com/blog/zoltan-pozsar-four-prices-of-money-coming-gold-bull-market

WE'RE PUMPING

Fucking hell, gold is literally £5 away from breaking its all time record.

>>53236194
>>53236203
Oof. Both sides look like shit desu. Glad I didn't pull the trigger on that. Liz's portrait hobestly looked a lot better than what we've got for Chuckie.

>>53234192

>>53236027
It's over

>>53233215
fair point. but I think since the font is all uppercase it'd look better if just the slashes were removed

>>53233215
Good point. /pmg/ is all lowercase and should be on the coin as well.

>>53236027
>>53237275
Rare earth /metal/mineral/elements aren't the same thing as precious metals/minerals/elements. They are two completely distinct and separate groups.

>>53234192

just ordered bros

https://www.ebay.com/itm/165038545203?hash=item266d105933:g:wfwAAOSwulNjjh6w

>>53237167
>Fucking hell, gold is literally £5 away from breaking its all time record.
Was supposed to buy my first ounce on Saturday. Hold me, frens...

>>53236027
reading the replies is like a globohomo echo chamber

and jannies are aids filled faggots

that is all

>>53237688
Dubs of truth.

My first ever silver has arrived

>>53237853
congrats

maples were my first coins too

>>53237853
Congrats desu. I got my kilo bar that I ordered 10 days ago.

>>53237504
i bought near ATH like 2 years ago, ... and now it's back, so don't feel so badly

>>53237853
Congrats, now pick a fondler.

>>53237265
>>53237451
If you’re making any more fun of me, you’re getting pumped full of lead!

>>53238327
Just kidding. Love those pocket memes!

>>53234538
>but at least a pirate hook!

Looks like at least 1 hand forged square nail, and the gaff hook (probably for maneuvering cargo and little boats at an old dock) and other old iron suggest activity in the area long ago. The lead weight looks like a clothing "hem weight" but is probably too big for that, maybe it's a weight from the bottom of window curtains. There could be good old artifacts and coins in the area so keep your eyes open for more than just gold nuggies, hopefully you'll find some medieval crossbow bolt tips or the like in there.

>>53238365
Would never make fun, good night Mr pocket guy works his ass off, gets shot in the back by a thief trying to jump his claim, survives, kills the thief and makes it rich with a massive gold pocket.

>>53238401
There was an old rope ferry just a bit upstream of that spot, so that makes sense that there’s some stuff from that. Don’t know from when to when it operated, but it’s long gone now. That lead wheight is confusing me, though.

It was fun while it lasted

>>53238568
>There was an old rope ferry

People often lost valuables while crossing rivers via fords or ferries, there are surely nice old coins waiting to be found there. If you see any areas between rocks full of iron objects that is also where the coins would tend to accumulate so dig it up and check it out, I've mentioned it before but I have found lots of silver and some gold rings in creeks and rivers by doing this.

Damn. Water level keeps dropping! So many pockets, so little time.

>>53238784
walk and wade around looking for pockets full of old iron nails and other bits, that's where the bigger gold and coins/artifacts will be. Likely to be in the deeper parts but if the river is low you might be able to access the spots.

>>53238830
That’s the plan. As shown, loads of iron and a few months ago I also found some oxidized to shit coins, so makes sense to look for that too. Oh, and gold flakes. Those too. Only problem is time.

>>53235013
did you reach out to them through email?

>>53233841
>>53233949
>>53236245
No, I happen to come across this beautiful 1857-O Seated Liberty Half-Dollar (confederate issue) in an original green PCGS holder and there is no way that this coin looks as bad as an AU53.
I thought that this coin was no wayyyyy this coin looked bad enough for an AU53 so I figured that it looks good enough for an AU55 or AU58 if I were to resubmit it to PCGS.
Fucking GORGEOUS coin by the way

>>53239018

>>53239030

>he thinks buying gold will save him
Your investment could literally halve and it wouldn't even be that bad a market crash

>>53237848
>anon murdered a child and threw her corpse on $23,000 of silver
Metal.

Whats everyone think of germania mint 1 kilo bars? I've never bought silver before but I'm considering buying a few of these to prevent myself from gambling away the money I have.

>>53239144
This is not just some ordinary market crash, but a complete and total saturation of the monetary system with debt and paper claims. We are on the cusp of a total revaluation of "claims" against actual goods and commodities. The last time this happened, owners of gold avoided a collapse of their purchasing power 69% and were consequently the beneficiaries of the increase in purchasing power.
There won't be any more free lunches, and the people who lived on the fruits of leverage (via their business, their real estate, their stock portfolio) will see it collapse in real terms once the economy deleverages. The more exposed you are to leverage the worse off you will be.
All of the paper gains we made while swiping the credit card will be given back. All of the capital appreciation you saw that was a function of leverage will be taken from you. There will be no more excess capacity, there will be no more pent up demand. Everything will be consumed and excess/surplus will be very hard to come by, which is why PMs will be so valuable.

>>53239354
I bought one on a Black Friday sale and it is sublime. The dimensions are perfect, it comes in a small box and tightly wrapped cellophane. If I buy up kilos I definitely would consider paying a higher premium for more of them.
Some of the long-flat bars that are nice as 10oz bars, don't look nearly as nice as kilos. The loaf bars are superior imo.
One disclaimer is that silver is silver. Outside of personal preference, getting the cheapest silver is ideal. You may leave a few precious ounces on the table depending on what/where/when and how you purchase.

>>53239354
>prevent myself from gambling away the money I have.

>>53239046
worth it.
beautiful coin.
Don't lose it!!

anyone know of any good reason for the small pump today

Hey silverbros,

Why did 5 ordinary Peace Dollars sell for $675 a few minutes ago???
1922 S Peace Dollars are not rare, and these are not in particularly great condition.
Shoulda been about $150.

What gives??

https://www.ebay.com/itm/354499099067?hash=item5289caf9bb%3Ag%3ABowAAOSwtPpjtvL8&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4Mxg1coLlzvnhIux%2F24eW9r%2FAxWBpvZltoeldXdospor5kERKBoOX1MsyhduuOfbpPo7gi4iGp9I4Zzo29875u9FAOOEl%2B5nRpZ5ipkRmunS%2FzILdeJfBUroQYnd7RIFMcBD6fj3X%2BIYnSc9%2FbX9TIrJFuZfytjPlMwRwv%2FJo20HpS9v2nGUGYR9Qhlt1QekLwALqGKpVLi7e0hXefoRY3gwr4sN15i8RD3F6ld%2F1FJ0RK8glPxCvmc5Q7eTdrUNltjIItRfRoyXy5cRReXIvQa9PH75b30Ua9qlMDrRU8LR%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_q1o-u0YQ&LH_Auction=1&autorefresh=true&nma=true&si=0sOFTBzeOEXq8n9ryo9iE0ii7jA%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Got some old family silver handed down recently

>>53239627
dumb dumbs

>>53239609
morning jew was asleep at the wheel. Probably watching porn on his iphone.

>>53239609
All the markets are programmed algorithms, dont bother trying to make sense of fakery.

>>53239635

>>53239676
OOOOOOOOOO

GULDEN

WHERE IS MY LINA COIN Johnathon smitherson!

>>53239689
My great grandfather brought it back when he was liberating the Netherlands in ww2 I think

>>53239747
>liberating

>>53239354
Loafs of silver for the win!

>>53239841
i don't like the poured look, but the germania mint bars are the right combo of poured texture but a sharp, contained shape. they're nice

Should I start worrying now that I haven't received a tracking number for the Prospectors or a reply email from matt from Anony inquiring about it.

>>53239854
Pour me another!

>>53239878
I had a couple emails in my junk I missed that I just responded to

>>53239791
He liked shiny coins too I guess lol

How many of you think in our life time the US dollar will fail? That seems to be one of the reasons why some people are investing in gold. Not trying to argue just curious to listen.

>>53239878
I just got tracking numbers yesterday for my orders, one order was from early August, second order was from mid August. If your orders where placed before mine I would shoot mintanon an email, if your orders where after mine you might wait another day or two and see if you get your tracking.

>>53239841
Stupid sexy pamp bars
>>53240099
There's a shit ton of debt written in usd. There will be demand for USD to service this debt for a long time.

Are you buying silver or gold after these pumps anon? The action is looking spicy but that ratio is still out of whack

>>53240024
Thanks for the quick response!

>>53240188
Ratio is a meme
I've got my eye on a saint I might buy today. I've got $200 in cc rewards to blow.

>>53240188
I'm still buying, bought 10oz silver this week, and 4 20 francs, and if mintanon starts their pre orders for crusader apu I will likely buy 5 gilded and 5 plain. Also thinking of getting a 10oz continental bar and a kilo germania bar.

>>53240188
Yes still buying silver, laying off gold for a minute.

>>53240024
>>53240153
noice, glad this is being resolved

>>53240187
dont most countries have large amounts of debt? What makes the USD and its dent different?

>>53240374
russia has none

russia can borrow from china; china will call in our debts to lend more

one scenario but the producing and brics countries are gonna stop using USD

>>53240374
It's a open trusted market that is very liquid. And I'm not referring to tbills when I reference USD denominated debt. There's a metric shitton of debt written in usd that must be paid in usd.

>>53240374
Because so many other countries hold us debt. If anything where to happen to us debt it would impact the entire world's economy.

>>53240220
>Ratio is a meme
Explain this heresy

>>53240411
Are you sure Russia has no debt? I didnt think in our globalized economy there was a single country that didnt have debt. Thats surprising because everyone says russia is poor but by that metric they must be doing better than some other small countries.

>>53240420
your post is above my head. what is stopping countries from asking the debt be repaid in some other form of money or currency if other countries stop trusting the us dollar? havent other countries in the past told the US to repay debt in gold instead of usd?

>>53240364
>>53240213
cheers

>>53240449

>>53240364
Always love that stack photo, such a cool look.

>>53240449
I have multiple multiple times. Think for yourself, don't trust everything the silver merchant preaches.

>>53240451
The contracts are written in usd
Why did they flood the world with USD in the last few years? The world needs it. Why did the USD strengthen so much? The world needs it. Being the world reserve currency is both a blessing and a curse.

>>53240451
when i say "no debt", i mean they have the same as small african countries.

they are the largest country with smallest debt which is basically nothing

i think their debt is in the billions vs trillions so they are in a posotion to borrow

>>53240451
>>53240563
also russia is not poor; they are just not in debt

you would think your neighbor is poor too if they took a beater camry to work while you own a sportscar but your neighbor doesnt owe on the camry and owns it.....who has more money?

>>53240458
can't wait for tomorrow's pre-order, when will it be opened to order? 4chan server time. I want to be among the first to order it.

>>53240541
what does it mean to be the world reserve currency? if ive understood any of your post that makes it sound like no mater what we do in the US relating to our economy, we have so much debt that we will be printing dollars off for years to repay all of that which will just cause more inflation and devalue the dollar even further.

>>53240563
i see now. its relative. I dont know why so many countries are okay being in such massive debt to other countries. Doesnt that mean they have more power over you? Or is it the other way around? If you owe money to other countries, does this protect you? Just seems simpler to limit how much you trade with other countries so they cant strong arm you.

>>53240541
dollar milkshake theory?? i dont trust usd remaining king for long

also, debt default and strict austerity is a thing which would mean war possibly

>>53240484
First time I saw it I saved it immediately. It's really creative and a huge stack of silver so it ticks a lot of boxes that I like.

When will COMEX shit the bed?
Please no meme "2 moar weeks" answers I'm about to make a large financial decision and want to know if I can wait a few more months, or if it's going to be at least a year and I should just bite the bullet instead of waiting forever.

>>53240628
the debt is a ponzi scheme; simple as. this has been known for years (ergo read peter grace commission report).

issue is that those in gov and bankers have acted in concert to force american people and enterprise to use federal IOUs ; it allows us to spend spend spend and NEVER pay it back

it works grear until an oil producing nation or china says "no, you cant pay me with usd"

if you dont play along the world economy will shut you down (romania dictatorshop kinda collapsed for this reason plus why we had qadaffi killed)

>>53240612
Aiming for 12pm PST

Ok here is my rough concept for a Lina Inverse 2024 year of the dragon coin.

>>53240628
Debt based fiat system. You need debt to survive. You need enough of this debt (USD) for everyone else to use it, as much as they need to keep a reserve currency status.
>>53240647
Death of a thousand paper cuts. I don't think some sudden crash will render USD obsolete overnight. There's currently nothing as liquid and trusted to replace it. Prettiest horse in the glue factory.

>>53240688
I'm kind of the in same boat as well. What are you looking to buy?

>>53240759
ya the usd collapse has been happening in slow motion for like 3 decades

not sure what will correct it for good but the best thing you can do as an individual is mitigate your exposure by not holding liquod fiat

>>53240765
I'm currently living with my parents, and have been putting money I would have spent on rent and bills into building a portfolio. I'm getting subtle pressure to move out but that means not only not being able to save (due to astronomical rent and energy costs in my area I would be living paycheck to paycheck), but I would also need to liquidate a sizable portion of my PMs and stocks to afford the deposit and various costs of moving out.

>>53240825
Greatly exaggerated collapse. currency inflating is a feature of a debt based fiat system, not a bug. If you were to stop all the new debt and pay off/down the existing debt, the system would collapse overnight. There were periods in the 90s where the share of USD as a reserve or share of trade were much less than they are today. The only grapes showing the share of USD as reserve currency only go back a decade or so to cover that inconvenience to writers selling a story to you.

>>53240449
what country are those apes in

>>53240420
And it will be a shit ton of newly created USD. The Fed can do what it likes with interest rates and such, but when the Treasury comes looking for a buyer for its paper to cover government expenses, the Fed will have no choice but to create massive amounts of new dollars, including dollars to pay off China, Japan, etc. And then all those dollars will come flooding back into the domestic market as everyone tries to unload their declining dollars. The long-term outlook is for a fiery death by inflation.

>>53240825
The problem is the inflation rate being higher than interest rates. Despite what people think, inflation is not some uniform rising of the tide. People get burned for years before there is any increase in wages.
This is not a problem that can realistically be solved, so we essentially have an erroding of the economy from the bottom up that will cascade into unemployment, compressed wages paired with inflation, declining home prices and consquent reduction in tax receipts, increased selling of assets by retirees and essentially zero help coming from younger generations who are financially ruined by student loans.
There may be brief spurts of economic activity or productive spending here and there, and not every area will be hit the same, but the downward trend of this economy is real. The economy was sustained on expanding credit, and as we have hit the saturation point all that is left is to steal our wealth via inflation to prevent the deflationary collapse.
I don't think twice about my PM stack not earning a return, because every overleveraged asset class will give away all of their gains anyway.
We want money so we can acquire goods/resources. We can skip the destruction of money by just owning some valuable resources. It's the most simple logic to understand I often wonder how people don't see it so clearly as I do.

>>53229008
I'm not sure about your latin
Imperius is not a real word. You may be thinking about imperium which should stand in the genetive case (Imperii)
Accusative angues seems fine

>>53240904
I'm sorry to hear that anon. Living with your parents + saving is comfy. Maybe offer to pay them something every month instead? I'm fairly new to precious metals, mostly in stocks and crypto. I'm unsure of the short term outlook of silver.

>>53240653
Same here, its pretty creative.

>>53233534
Someone should make a Grugerand

>>53234503
I buy what I like exclusivly. I'd never spend thousands on something ugly like a Philharmonic or a (modern) britannia.
I've only been to lcs one time and they had a lot of the shit I like/own/plan to buy in the future anyways, Injun head half eagles, double eagles, centenarios, 20 francs, AGEs.
They had no gold buffalos however, which was odd.
>>53236203
Much better than old hag Liz. I can't wait to have a coin with Charles on it.

>>53241459
I like wieners

>>53240688
>>53240765
There will be no physical silver squeeze if people are not hoarding physical silver, right?
Always be stacking.

>$1900 gold
what the fuck did you niggers do to my cheapies I'll kill you

I love gold

>>53235295
Fun with sheets.
Not sure why Incrementum says 9.4%. I guess there's a difference between average and constant annual percent rates of increase. I iterated that 8.4% would bring the value to current.
Pink are numbers to enter for experimentation. Purple are calculated final results. It checks out.
I was astonished to be reminded how inexpensive gold was in 2000. I remember a year or two earlier I bought my sister an ounce of gold findings for $250 so she could make some jewelry.

>>53242027
fuck off gretchen

>>53237167
ATH was about 1694 pounds.
https://investingnews.com/daily/resource-investing/precious-metals-investing/gold-investing/highest-price-for-gold/
>Gold hit US$2,074.60, its highest price at the time of this writing, on March 8, 2022.

>>53241017
This, mintanon. However, I think it should be the other way. Power in the accusative and serpent/dragon in the plural genitive. This construction would be:
>SCUTUM CONTRA ANGUIUM IMPERIUM
>defense against the power of dragons

Instead of the original
>SCUTUM CONTRA ANGUES IMPERIU(M)
>defense against dragons power

Incidentally the word pattern is also better in the new one (-ium -ium)

>>53241882
Blame the dollar anon

>>53241882
Gold is not for poor faggots like you. Stick with something within your means like the poormans gold silver.

>>53242167
"scutum contra angues imperius"

"a shield against the serpents of government"

According to google translate. And that's the one most people will use.

I still vote for the gilding design and latin design of OP

imperius=government according to the google translate

>>53229561
Goddammit that Holo one is fucking perfect. I think that show was the first to really open my eyes on shiny rock trading. A wise wolf indeed. Just need Senko on one next. Still haven't gotten anything new. Will post my little stack after wagie.

It's frightening that the vast majority of people don't even have this small amount in savings

>>53242314
i have gold you nigger, i was going to get more and saw it went up $400

>everytime a donation asks nick rochefort what to do with extra cash he says silver bullion

>>53241667
Their large diameter is fun but I just don't like the design. It's fine if you do anon, it means you get to pay less of a premium

>>53242330
Three things for you to know about Latin:
- words have multiple translations in English according to context, so your use of government is apt
- word order (basically) isn't a thing. If the grammar isn't matched to the rest of the sentence then the syntax isn't complete and you are writing dogshit Latin: "scutum contra angues imperius" means "against serpents protection government"
- Google translate doesn't work for Latin. It is notoriously bad. This is because Latin is an inflected language. Google translate doesn't work for Latin.

My Latin abilities aren't perfect but SCUTUM CONTRA ANGUIUM IMPERIUM is simply more correct. I don't personally care about this but people who actually are familiar with Latin would look at it and scoff, possibly even causing them to doubt the authenticity of the coin.

>>53230885
>>53230991
I just bought 2900 dollars worth of junk silver for 3000 dollars.
You sure we're taxed up here man? My LCS is a pretty balling location and they have the most fantastic deal on junk silver i've yet to find, but I didn't think there were taxes on Junk silver. The government considers it a financial instrument since it's actual currency.

>>53242579
scrotum contrast anus impenis lol latin gey

>>53242579
I see your argument for the other way round; "the serpents of government" is just as valid as "the authority of dragons".
Either way grammar being correct is better than it not being correct. As anon said, imperius is not a word.

>>53242604
>The government considers it a financial instrument since it's actual currency.
If you're paying significantly more than face value, Eg $20 for a $1 silver coin, then it becomes a collectible / numismashit which is technically taxable if it's below .999 purity. Anything below that purity is technically supposed to be taxed but some based LCS don't. I guess it's a somewhat grey area

>>53239354
I wouldn't stack any other kilos. Bold always has them for the best price.

>>53241882
price hasnt moved for us yuros so >>53242263

>>53239709
Based taste.

Roughly how many coins does mintanon do per design? Hundreds, thousands?

>>53242604
Pretty sure legal tender isn’t taxed in any state

>>53240748
I would buy a tube of these.

UK anons, what is the cheapest deals on 10oz bars you know. Ordering direct from Baird & Co. looks like a good price, around 270

>>53242579
Romanes eunt domus
Romanes eunt domus
Romanes eunt domus
Romanes eunt domus
Romanes eunt domus
Romanes eunt domus

Help bros!
My britannias are like 1/10 millimeter too wide to fit in my plastic coin capsules. How do I get them in there? Can I heat the capsules to expand them? Or can I put the coin in the freezer to shrink it?

>>53242579
>word order (basically) isn't a thing
It matters for prepositions, for example. "Roma in vir habitat" is nonsense.
The word order is much less strict though, and individual authors tend to have their own stylistic flourish of where they chose to place clauses verbs etc.
That isn't to say there aren't clear trends though. Genitive usually follows the thing it's describing, verbs usually end clauses, subjects usually lead the sentence, etc.

>"scutum contra angues imperius" means "against serpents protection government"
It doesn't mean anything because imperius isn't a valid form.
However "scutum contra angues imperii" would translate to fine "a shield from the snakes of the government".
That said, I believe "serpentes" might be a better choice that "angues" if you're using it pejoratively, since it can't also mean dragon.

>My Latin abilities aren't perfect but SCUTUM CONTRA ANGUIUM IMPERIUM is simply more correct
It literally depends on what OP was trying to say. Are they saying "power of dragons" or pejoratively calling glowies snakes?
(contra imperium anguim is a better order. I don't think you can interrupt the contra+[acc] by inserting a genitive of description before the accusative).

>>53243026
Did you try getting bigger capsules?

>>53243026
I think putting the coin in the freezer would be the safest first attempt.
Heating a plastic container in a autoclave or toaster oven second. Might be a stupid idea too.

>>53242760
im barely paying a premium and Im not paying taxes on it at all for some reason.
This LCS is run by way older people and they barely charge anything for Canadian Junk Silver.
Im really close to melt value on every transaction. Maybe 2-3% premium at most.

>>53243026
i put mine in the gasket capsules for maples. its a little tight and you have to force them in but they fit good once theyre in

>>53243263
Nobody cares

I bought a silver weiner yesterday. why the fuck does the ugliest have to be the cheapest one? My stack consists mostly of this ugly ass austrian crap

>>53242998
Id jocum bonum est cum magistri quam milite in monthy python linguam latinam docuerint

>>53243263
Thanks for the input. I see now that all this autism is unnecessary if the fix is literally changing the final letter S to an M. (however as you say maybe it still needs to be switched around for the +acc?)

At the end of the day it depends how much mintanon cares about all this.

>>53243384
kindof interested in canadian junk silver, any handy guides on it?

>>53243455
>>53243263
I'm glad the discussion is happening, if we can autism out an ultimately better round that makes more sense then now would be the time to argue it

>>53243026
Have you tried letting your jewish friends hang onto them for a few minutes?

>>53243263
>>53243502

Jefferson called the banks a den of vipers IIRC, so I think we should call them snakes over dragons.

>>53229008
>mint located in Europe
>can't buy their product in Europe
Why are they like this?

>>53243502
Implying that the language is Latin. It only looks like Latin. It’s actually American. I’ll translate it for you. It means, “ go to google translate and type in’scutum contra angues imperius’ and then read what it says in English.”

you guys got any of them junior minors i can leverage the fuck out of with call options?

>>53243263
>>53243502
Jackson called the banks a den of vipers IIRC, so I think we should call them snakes over dragons.

you guys got any of them junior miners i can leverage the fuck out of with call options?

>>53239841
Yo is that among us?

>>53243775
please shut the fuck up

>>53243664
your teachers have failed you if this is your outlook on languages

>>53243395
>>53243664
> Insisting on letting Google define the things you read, even after someone asks the classical language general for help

>>53243720
I've got a list of companies you can buy physical gold and silver from.

>>53243775
Suisse more like Sussie

>>53243775
AMONGUS!?

>>53243935
Lmao

>>53243400
Perhaps it's cheap because it's ugly, like a fat girl at a nightclub waheyy

>>53242964
BASED

>>53243455
>SCUTUM CONTRA IMPERIUM ANGUIUM
A shield from the power of snakes/dragons
>SCUTUM CONTRA SERPENTES IMERII
A shield from the snakes of the state.

Depending on which vibe you want.
To be honest there's lots of other words you can use depending on the exact vibe you want.
But that's part of the issue with translating, it's often not very exact.

>>53243925
uhh that's great, but I'm more interested in cutting the middle man out and going strait for the miners that pull the stuff out of the ground.

>>53242466
nice goldbacks

>>53244236
Streamers make good investment

>>53243263
>pejoratively calling glowies snakes?
Yes.

"A shield against the snakes/serpents of government"

New thread available
>>53244713
>>53244713
>>53244713

>>53233426
Can you draw for me the NORF FC coin? We got it approved by MintAnon but I can’t draw
>NORF FC OBVERSE
>SOUF FC REVERSE

>>53244334
I like goldbacks, but my God is the art on them amateur. They look like something an untrained teenage girl would come up for class.

>>53244965
yeah kinda true
though there is some effort in the symbology rather than straight masonic shit