/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>53208741
Simple enough to ask for a raise.
>I've been working here for [longer than 6-months]. Can I have a raise in pay?
No, not at this time.
>Well, is there anything I can do over the next 6-months to earn a raise?
Sure: show up on time, don't call out sick as often, do X, Y, and Z more often, and then we can talk about a raise in the future.

>>53208741
I am but my current job is cutting my hours from 40+ to 23 if I'm lucky not sure how they can legally even do it, I'm looking into seeing if this qualifies me for UI while I'm trying to get a job transporting medical supplies for 30-38 an hour which I'd love but my life fucking sucks right now making 19.75 and 20 hours a week it's barely above unemployment.

>>53208741
>no degree, though i do have many years experience
>this company doesn't do raises and has fired people for asking kek
>salary, i do everything in my power to be here at max 40 hrs a week, usually 32, and my actual working output is like 4 hours a week if that

>>53208782
this is a painfully true post

>>53208741
You clearly haven’t waged for that long Anon. This is a slave planet. If you get trips I’ll give you the next 500x, It has a dedicated fudder on the board.

>>53208782
another 6 months go by
>So what about that raise?
No, not at this time

repeat

>>53208986
Rollin

>>53208741
My bills are 5000 per year. I make about 35k a year. I have 30k to do whatever I want with. I can buy all the same cloths movies and games that rich folk have. Just can't have fancy cars or boats. Why live harder

>>53209002
That's when you start applying to other jobs.

>>53209233
Checked 33 digits. People make more money from Gibs and don’t have to slave away for it. You’re getting absolutely suckered, get a better job ASAP.

>>53208915
Apply to as many jobs as you can on your time off.
If you only have 20-hours scheduled, try and find another 40-hour/week job or side gig for the time being.

>>53209357
Yeah I have been gonna doordash as well while I wait because I can't even pay my god damn bills, least they didn't let me drive into work today like two days last week when they cut my 20 fucking hours.

>>53208986
I'm in my 30s. I've wageslaved for years until I got smart enough (in my industry) to start my own consulting firm, where I basically do the same job I did before but I charge 3 times as much.

>>53209233
If you're good with that, then there's no reason to change it. Some people don't have that situation and are trying to make/save more money for the future.

>>53208741
It's also worth applying to different companies throughout the year, especially if they are the High Payers in your area.
There might be a way to get your foot in the door, and if the company promotes from within then that's an easier way to get a promotion/raise.

>>53208741
What's your job?
What industry are you in?
What would it take to get a promotion or move to a different department that pays more?
Let me know and I will try and provide advice!

Biz is definitely a dead board
>Make a thread about increasing income
>Try and provide helpful advice on jobs/careers/small businesses
>No one responds, would rather bitch about shitcoins
Oh well, maybe I'll try again in a week.

>>53208986
not OP but rolling anyway fuck it

>>53208741
it's the new year and you still create these threads. no resolutions again, huh

>>53208741
Idk, I probably should get a job soon but I live such a minimalist lifestyle that I have my monthly expenses down to $950 bones and like 130k to fall back on. Been unemployed for 3 years now and never worked a job that paid more than 60k, but whenever i have had a job ive maxe sure to invest and save like 70% of every pay check. I am 28 though and if I don't get some kind of career going again soon ill probably be fucked permanently. Watching anime and playing video games all day is just too comfy though.

Lmao he fell for the promotion meme
>Here you go goy a $1 pay raise and 5x the responsibilities and expectations.
Id rather just get a new job every year for a much bigger pay raise and then I can fuck around for 6 months while Im being trained.

>>53210977
I don't need any resolutions, I'm already earning as much as I can with my current job, and my consulting firm is on track to pull in a few additional clients throughout the year.
This called trying to "Pay it Forward", and I'd rather try to help out /biz than faggot redditors.

>>53211085
Yes, switching companies is a viable option, though they've recently become aware of people who change jobs too frequently.
If you don't have some 1-2 year stretches on your resume, you may find yourself unable to get a new job at a higher pay.

>>53210993
Sounds like it's working well!

I asked to get a raise to 250k and they didn't even blink. Now I'm thinking I should be interviewing elsewhere and getting offer letters because there's probably more money on the table

>>53208741
I've been applying for 3 months now and haven't gotten an offer. It's extremely demoralizing to get turned down for a wearhouse position offering less than $20/hr because you haven't used the specific piece of software they use in the wearhouse. Who are the people taking the $40k salary jobs in a HCol area? It's not enough to survive, yet I have to compete against hundreds of people for unskilled labor positions.

>>53211383
Hey, don't blame the system for you not getting a job. You're just too lazy to learn the specific software they use. Wake up and put in the effort, it's not that hard. Stop making excuses, stop blaming others. You want a job, you gotta work for it.

>>53210369
What did you expect? The ones that are are applying and doing interviews while the ones that bitch are shitposting. Be different. Shitpost and gdt the promotion.
>apply for job
>land it with higher pay
>"Mr. Manager I just got offered $15k more a year! Can you counter?
>if yes => use that to counter your first offer
>if no => leave
>>53211383
Leave your area. If the true factor is stupid boomers, an unbalanced labor economy, and not you then you'll make it immediately somewhere else.

>>53208782
Companies don't give raises though

>>53211383
>Find online tutorials for that specific type of software.
>Take copious notes
>Ace all the interview questions
>When on the job, ask smart questions, read the manuals, do the training, etc. “Damn, my last employer didn’t use this shit right. My bad, how do I do this the right way?”
You’ll get a job in no time.
Also, add a section to your resume titled “Skills” and add all the software you’re experienced with, and any other key terms from the Job Description, that’s what AI/HR bots scroll for to see if you’re resume is a match for the job.

>>53210369
Gambling is exciting, stable income is boring

>>53211498
Not with that attitude they don’t.

>>53211602
>NGMI

>>53211367
Not sure what industry you’re in but I apply to competing companies every 3-6 months just to see what other people at the same level are getting paid.
It’s great for leverage or to start a new job at a different company.

>>53211137
why not try to improve your life this year? you still feel like you need to justify yourself on an anonymous image board by lying, why not make your lies a reality? make the first step this year, stop fantasizing about a lifestyle you wish you had. take some risks, leave your screens and improve

>>53208782
>>53208741
Get raped you stupid nigger no one is actually hiring.

>>53209370
How do I start a consulting firm? I’m a developer and a pajeet wrangler but I feel like if I struck out on my own I could make 10x more

>>53212792
>/biz
See >>53212792

Cmon buddy why don't you work a little harder and make your dreams a reality if you have the time to post on /biz/.

>>53212846
>Set up an LLC
>Contact companies you think would hire you
>Farm some work out to India, find employees on LinkedIn
>make sure you have time to check their work
That’s basically it.
If you want to get more complicated you can build a website, company LinkedIn profile, etc.

>>53208782
>OP bait wasn't strong enough he had to immediately reply to his own thread and double down

How desperate for attention are you? Get a hobby.

Nobody will fucking hire me despite having almost 10 years of experience. It's just been rounds of interviews that go fucking nowhere.

>>53213495
Then it may be your interviewing style.
Do you work with recruiters? They'll tell you where you need to improve.

>>53208741
>Why aren't you asking for more hours, or to work over-time (if it's available)?
absolute blue collar cuck behavior.

You should be working as little as possible (while earning lots). Nobody gives a fuck about how much you make if you cuck away for 80 hours a week kek

>tradies

>>53208986
You don't have a 500x

>>53209240
Wrong. You start applying 8 months in so by month 10-12 you have multiple offers and take the best one.

OP, I have a econ degree am currently in a masters program and have been repeatedly denied for internships despite making it into the 3rd or 4th round of interviews. (accounting). I have good grades.

with no family for nepotism / cronyism what can I do to get my foot in the door and overcome the catch 22 of entry level white collar work?

>>53208741
I got a $10,000 raise and I see $100 more on my paycheck. That basically covers the rise in inflation and nothing else.
Fuck this shit.

>>53213677
Alright, here's what you could do:
>Make a list of the top 20-companies in your area, or the top 20-companies you'd like to work for.
>Start applying to jobs/internships for ALL of them, even if they don't have any listings opened. Use an Excel sheet to track it.
>Next, carefully reach out to HR or hiring people on LinkedIn (maybe even employees in the same department, but only like 1-2 per company, otherwise they'll think you're just spamming), and send them a short/brief message, "I'm a recent graduate from XYZ college/program, and I'm starting my job search before I graduate. Could I set up a call with you to learn more about your company?"
>On the call, ask about the company, upcoming products/projects, what the corporate culture is like, etc. Thank them for their time, be on your way.
>Then, keep an eye out for any openings, and THEN send them an email and message, "We spoke a while ago, I saw an opening that could be a good fit so I applied to it on the website. Hope to hear back soon!"

If you don't have connections, you have to slowly build connections.

>>53213677
Start reaching out to recruiters too.
I personally don't think you should be going through so many rounds of interviews. Maybe it's because I have more experience, but I usually have two interviews: one with a recruiter, and one with a hiring manager/team.
At the end of the interview, I always ask "Is there anything else you'd like to know that we didn't get a chance to talk about?" Sometimes we'll talk for another few minutes, other times they say No and we end the call. I always ask what the next steps are, and they usually say "We'll reach out in a few days."
If they ever ask for another interview, I almost always decline. There was one time I went to a third interview, and I straight up said "I've already gone over all of this info with your colleagues. To be honest, I'm a little perplexed as to why they didn't go over this information with you, sounds like a waste of time on their part. Wouldn't you rather ask me about things they didn't get a chance to talk about?"
I ended up getting a contract from that interview, they liked how direct I was, and agreed that their hiring process could use some streamlining (which I helped them out with).

>>53211383
Er, it's "warehouse".

>>53213896
kek

>employment

>>53208741
ive never worked 40+ hours in a week why the fuck am i going to start now??

>>53213495
Sounds like ur trying too hard. It's just a job anon

>>53211731
That's what I'm doing in a few days. I've been at the same company for 7 years, but I want to see what else is out there. Usually every time I threaten to quit they give me a few dollars an hour raise, but I'm just tired of being over worked and they can't find me any help worth having.

>>53213815
Way too much work. Just go in there, be handsome and give them a firm handshake if you really must work.

>>53213938
Based

>>53214009
Yeah, absolutely start applying to other companies ASAP.

>>53211498
Not true bro, I work for a small company and just got a 10% annual raise. Been there 2 years. I basically keep my mouth shut and do my job. Good luck.

>>53213532
Women and faggots should be exterminated.

Anyone else NOTICE the demoralization glowniggers in this thread??
Seems like THEY would rather have you discussing shitcoins than actually working to improve your career prospects.

people in my department have been leaving so the company started paying me a cash LTI in addition to the normal bonus to encourage me to stay. it's an extra 15k-ish. besides that I already work from home and wouldn't really want to leave.

>>53215523
Nice, it's good to have a job like that!

I ALREADY GET PAID WELL AND HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH MY GROUP.
NOT GIVING THAT UP TO CHASE "THE BETTER JOB" THAT DOESN'T EXIST, LIKE ALL THE LOSERS WHO COULDN'T HACK IT HERE DID.
I STALK THEM ALL AFTER THEY LEAVE, AND WHAT THEY SAY IS TRUE: ONCE A JUMPER, ALWAYS A JUMPER.

>>53208741
what are you, my fucking wife you retard
my career goal is to have as little responsibility as possible and quietly sit in a corner collecting paychecks as long as I can, so that in the end I will have given the least amount of labor while siphoning off as much money as possible and avoiding taxation as much as possible too
chasing pay and promotion is a fool's game for pussy whipped goyim

>>53215609
This thread is for people who HATE their jobs.
You can go.

>>53215643
Jews love it when Goyim have no career aspirations, that's exactly how they designed it.

>>53215721
>26 posts by this kike

>>53215721
its too bad I dont work for jews then, clearly you haven't experience up or out

>>53215803
See >>53215712
And then, fuck off

>>53208986
stinklink will never go 500 x

>lol spam filter on this shitcoin

>>53216055
chaincoin

>>53216055
chain$tink
lmao why is this word considered spam

>>53216055
¢hainstink

>>53211584
>you're resume
You are already resumed

>>53208741
I've applied for probably 20 jobs the last couple months. Low qualification jobs because I'm borderline retarded and that's the best I can hope for. Two interviews and no hirings. There is no staffing shortage. They don't want to hire.

i already got a better job faggot nigger

>>53216139
I was phoneposting earlier

>>53216158
If you're actually retarded then you should become an apprentice in one of the trades, like construction or plumbing. They always need people to haul trash/shit/concrete around.

>>53209233
So i domt have to work and can just ait back and relax. Everything I want to do now is the same as if im rich. Well almost everything. One of the biggest differences is, is I dont have to work and put in all that effort a job requires even outside work

>>53210993
I'm enjoying retirement too Anon, slowly dwindling down my savings stack of 100K. We have to go back eventually though. We can never get too comfy.

My goal this year is to tech wage, double my stack to 200K, then actually retire with a clear conscience off divvies, in some dirt poor country like Turkey or Colombia. As long as I don't interact with the poor locals, I can set up a hidden NEET cave somewhere, and be relatively safe (I'd VPN my internet too). From there, work on an e-business, but that work would still be optional.

>>53208741
>Why aren't you applying to higher paying jobs?
My current job has intangible benefits that I'd be unlikely to get elsewhere. Like gold bricking.
>Why aren't you asking for a raise?
Oh I am.
>Why aren't you asking for more hours, or to work over-time (if it's available)?
I have unlimited options for overtime. Can work 120 hours a week if I so chose, but that'd be retarded. 60 is enough for the moment.

>>53210369
>make shit tier thread
>reply to yourself pretending to be someone else (forgot about post ids)
>saying the same shit every boomer fag says about jobs
>nobody cares
>omg board dead!!
Nope, nobody cares about your generic brainlet advice though

>>53216210
>>53216238
>>53216241
Living the /biz/ dream!

>>53209233
>My bills are $5k/year
How
>inb4 you're an expat living in Thailand or something

>>53208741
I'm commission only and I already make a decent amount, if anybody knows a sales gig paying more than 100k per year lmk

>>53216507
Try and get into pharma/medical device sales. Some of those top guys earn big commissions.

>>53216527
I have heard this, I'll keep my eyes peeled, thanks anon

2nd year Accounting student. Going in for a cadetship interview at a firm that offers CA pathways. Had a look over their linkedin, seems to be right.

Anything I need to know before hand bizbros. What’s the best work/life balance niche in accounting?

>>53216631
>cadetship
That's a great choice!

For accountants, it can get really busy during tax-season and/or quarterly filings. I've heard the best thing to do is, as best you can, start work early so you're not rushing to finish reports last minute. Whatever you can do ahead of time, get it done.
Otherwise, you'll have some weeks with very little to do, then other weeks where you're working 12-hours/day, 7-days a week, just trying to get projects finished before the deadline.

Don’t have a job I want

I make about 80k/yr in Arkansas and cant tell if im doing well.
rent is 675/month but have personal loan, car loan, and 55k in student debt.
Idk if I can get a better job but theres rumors a new position opening in my company soon so will see

>>53208782
i would feel so entitled doing this

>>53216830
That's a good salary anon.
>Max out 401k
>Max out Roth IRA
If you do that, it will help to lower your after-tax income.
Any additional savings/investments is icing on the cake, especially if you can save 50% of your after-tax income.
Try and see what other internal job openings are available.

>>53216868
It's not entitled if you're doing a good job. Like, if you're not a drain on resources, then you should feel completely comfortable asking for more money.
Especially if you have any job that is customer-facing, i.e. you're responsible for making the company more money.
On the flip side, if you figure out a way for the company to save more money, then that's a reason to ask for a raise too.

>>53216879
>>53216890
this glownigger must be so bored to still be in this thread

>>53208986
If you graduated college in 1980 and acquired the average salary, you could put away 50% of your after-tax income into debt and savings to be rid of your student loans AND have 20% down on a house in 30 months post graduation.

>>53208741
I'm starting off the year taking a pay cut and losing all my benefits
My wife is going to give birth without health insurance

>>53216879
Do not max out government instruments. Get the company match max and that's it. Propping up 401k when there's so much more you could do with your savings is ridiculous and foolish

>>53208741
>Why aren't you applying to higher paying jobs?
Im busy you nigger
>Why aren't you asking for a raise?
Im getting one in april
>Why aren't you asking for more hours, or to work over-time (if it's available)?
Im salaried

>>53216631
Don't work in accounting.

t. big 4 accountant

>>53217142
nigga i’m 23 and chose a shitty industrial trade to work in my fathers factory. I want to kms every single living day. All my other mates who went into normal trades make a fortune. My plan is to jew off of them the rest of my life.

>>53216784
I’ve wondered if the “crunch” of being an accountant is just retard office culture where they do 2 hours of real work a day and spend the rest of the day mooching, until deadlines become a thing and then it’s “woe to me my job is stressful”

>>53217182
Busy season is very real but you sound like an idiot so go experience it yourself. Reminder, go big 4. If you are an accountant but have never worked big 4 you are lower than a rat.

>>53217073
>there's so much more you could do with your savings
yeah like
>speculating on shitcoins
>consooming
>starting a dropshipping business
>opening a real ay talian pizzeria
thanks for setting us straight!

>>53217209
Bet

I got a phone interview and a recruiter interview tomorrow. Any advice you guys have for me?

I don't want to spill my spaghetti or freeze up like a retard

>>53208741
Rather going to work I trade Crypto and make a living out of it.
I stake, metastake, add liquidity to pools and generate passive income to keep my portfolio good.
This is smart.
Future is web3 payments.

>>53217244
get really stoned first