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>>53133327
I like xmr but the marketcap is already high. I invest in undervalued projects like piratechain instead. If privacy becomes mainstream, xmr will go up x5, but piratechain will go up x1000+. DYOR

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>>53133103
So I just
>git clone --recursive https://github.com/monero-project/monero
>cd monero && git submodule init && git submodule update
>ulimit -d 2000000
>env DEVELOPER_LOCAL_TOOLS=1 BOOST_ROOT=/usr/local gmake release-static

everything goes well until this point
https://pastebin.com/3D7aNCPr

I keep hearing the argument that privacy on BTC Layer 2 is impossible because the base layer is publicly visible. Is the inverse true for Monero? If a layer 2 tracked clients couldn't they just transfer to a new wallet on the L1? If someone made an easily trackable l2 dapp that isn't possible on the l1 like DEX that became widely used what would be the risks?

been eyeing the price for months.

bitcoin pumps, xmr pumps
bitcoin dumps, xmr pumps

wtf? i can't buy in!

So real talk here: I have $10,000 to put into a project. Why, oh why, would I want to place it into XMR? I like the idea of privacy, but is this an investment that will actually pay out? If so, then having a profitable investment PLUS having it entirely covert does intrigue me.

>>53133834
go away, moonfag.

>>53133742
Oh oh

>>53133834
If you want to make (((fiat money))) then invest in BTC. If you want to end (((fiat money))) then invest in Monero. Simple as.

>>53133834

>>53133356
Trannies on suicide watch

>>53133868
I think my question is a legitimate one, seeing how any investment should either retain its original dollar amount OR increase it. Will Monero do that? Because again, privacy is key, and I agree that it is entirely needed and is what makes crypto so intriguing, but if making it private also drives an investment to zero because it's simply not sound, then what's the point? Don't pretend you're on a holy crusade here.

>>53133947
Okay, thank you. That puts things in simpler terms.

>>53133995
you already know what you want to do, stop asking me to say it back to you and just do it.
You're right, privacy is critical. It's just a question of to what degree will normies seek privacy through technology over the coming years.

>>53133356
they feign surprise that people have mistrust in government when government agents get paid by the people they are supposed to serve to post "pedo coin" and "Pedophilia coin" in Monero threads. They used to post the same thing in Bitcoin threads - maybe after 10 years it will eventually work. Don't give up, and never change.

>>53133541
>I keep hearing the argument that privacy on BTC Layer 2 is impossible because the base layer is publicly visible.
Privacy on the "base layer" may be necessary but not sufficient for privacy on the "second layer". It is more complicated than how you are reasoning about it, and requires some thought into the technical details of how it's implemented.
For example, the "lightning network" does not obfuscate transactions, but it does afford at least some privacy over bitcoin "layer 1" transactions in the sense that not all transactions are required to be published publicly for all eternity. So these "layer 2" systems may have different qualities than the "base layer".
>Is the inverse true for Monero?
I heard some talk about a "layer 2" on top of monero, but the plans so far are just for payment channels without intermediate routing, which is not as useful as bitcoin's "lightning network" but also avoids many of the privacy pitfalls.
details here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XVMUVvwxUE
>If a layer 2 tracked clients couldn't they just transfer to a new wallet on the L1?
Sure, I suppose. If you just have simple two-way payment channels without routing, it's not really possible to track the "L2" anyways until they close the channel.
If monero had a bitcoin-like LN on top of it you could always just close the channel and churn the enotes, yeah. But if enough people were using LN-over-monero then it would decrease the anonset of the "layer 1" monero right? Also churning isn't an exact science yet.
If you are asking about bitcoin here, then In order to use the coins on "layer 1" you need to close the channel, so if they can see your transaction on "layer 2" then it's going to be pretty obvious.

to be continued...

>>53133327
Monero looks like THAT?

>>53133541
>>53134058
>If someone made an easily trackable l2 dapp that isn't possible on the l1 like DEX that became widely used what would be the risks?
This is too many buzzwords, but anyways:

Monero development is very security-focused, so monero has no scripting functionality like bitcoin or ethereum, so it generally will not support these sorts of "layer 2" systems without a hardfork.
For example, if you listen to that talk that I linked to in my last post, they talk about how payment channels are not possible yet without a minor hardfork.

If there was an antagonistic third party that tried to make a "layer 2" network on top of monero that was not private or secure, it may not last very long because the community may hardfork against the features that it uses in order to reduce the complexity of the ecosystem.

>>53133938
hmm the graph hasn't been updated in a year. I wonder what could have happened in the last year?

So looking into XMR has me thinking: let's say fiat is gone. Does XMR become the new currency? Or does it become a method to conceal currency? Yes, I understand it's a "cryptocurrency", but it sounds like the antithesis to fiat, so if it accomplishes it's goal by removing fiat or at the very least create a parallel private economy, is it the traded asset or the process to make things private? Is that what gives it its fiat market value? It feels like crypto back when it first shocked the market.

>>53133834
if you cant figure it out for yourself with just a bit of common sense and the ability to read the writing on the wall, then your better off buying gold or silver or dog coins. maybe ask wsb or reddit.

>fail password too many times, get locked out of phone provider account
>have to call support line for the first time in like 3 years
>waiting, waiting
>automated helper asks me if I'd like to
>let them use my
>VOICE
>BIOMETRICS
>to
>CREATE
>a voice verification for them
>say "no", press "2", request live agent.

and the tentacles creep onward...

When do you think EU bans Monero fiat ramps with full legal effect?
Just reply once you're commenting otherwise.

Gov regulations are in practice just a meme, but it'll send attention to XMR

>>53134386
Monero already is a currency, privacy is just a necessary feature for something to be a good medium of exchange.

The OP needs some refactoring, instead of spamming 5 posts with 100 links, post one with the most important sources and put the rest on a pastebin.

>>53133356
Nah, cash is still king of cheese pizza and walnut sauce.

>>53133456
Hi... What is the ethics of selling my monero for a 30% profit but I have to convert it to drugs?

>>53136137
think of you drugs as 25% off

>>53136093
I think it filter the people unwilling to read. So we should keep the long OP.

>>53136156
I don't do drugs. My family and friends like them and treat me like a le international man of mystery when I come through. I'm just a dork tho.

>>53135107
You would have to ban all crypto for it to work since there's no real direct fiat to xmr anyway. You might see a single EU country do a token ban to make it look like they're tough on money laundering but other then that don't expect anything from the EU or any large economy's. Except maybe economies with more meme politics like India or Brazil.

>>53136170

Every once in a while we get one of these undercover concern trolls trying to get those very potent blackpills taken down. Just ignore.

as a game dev, how can i help the monero community?

>>53137171
Accept XMR for freelance work if you're an indie dev or something. Even if nobody actually pays you in XMR, you're spreading the word

Anything that isn't PoW is a scam.
Anything that isn't ASIC resistant is a scam.

Does someone know of clearnet online shops or buyer-seller marketplaces where I can buy subscriptions to services like Netflix or MUBI using XMR? My friend told me about one of these a while back but I can't remember the name.

Monerochan lost out to a pineapple for Monerokon press but I made a poster for them anyway

>>53138026
coinsbee?

>>53138235
That's all I've been able to find but I remember he told me about a site which might have had hin in the name, had a dark background, and every seller had a small rectangle on a grid for the listing that they were behind. It's been eluding me for a while now. I think it was primarily for BTC trades but I wanted to check if they allowed XMR too.

>>53138264
bin* not hin

damn I need a girlfriend like monero chan

>>53138216
Like the poster.

>>53133834
>is this an investment
No. It's a digital currency and quite possibly the closest thing we have to digital money, as opposed to bitcoin being digital property and thus not much different than a classical 'investment'

https://moneromarket.io/u/PROXYJAPAN/

We ship worldwide from Japan.

You can also request items you want from Japan even if we don't have them listed, and we will purchase and ship them for you.

We are a way to get collectible items that are hard to get in your country, or even to make reservations of new items that will be released in Japan first.

>>53138455
monero is digital currency and property, bitcoin isn't currency and can be easily seized

>>53136200
put a teeny tiny bit of fentanyl in your familys drugs, not enough to kill them, just enough to get them hooked so they will always want YOUR drugs and will stop buying from other dealers. it's win/win.

>go to exchange to buy monero
>asked for Id photo,full personal details and selfie
>mining calculator : 0.15 usd in electricity produces 0.01 worth of monero
> best power efficient mining cpu worth 6000 without considering full build cost
wtf i just want to pay vpn with monero if the only straight forward way to get it is submit my personal data to some shoddy exchange in china im not doing it
Unrelated note, these pics with escobar and monero logos are some retarded shit

>>53133356
Pedo fiat

>>53138714
https://kycnot.me/
or buy in person

>>53138639
I never touch the drugs tho.

When are we getting rich lads?

>>53139634
>When are we getting rich lads?

Next Thursday.

>>53133541
Go ahead and try to obtain privacy with bitcoin. They'll tell you to use something like coinjoin where you comingle your stash with random people then get it the other way, that's not truely private because one could still tell you were in one of these groups, also your funds will take hours for the comingling on the already slow bitcoin network.
Monero is just easier and doesn't need you to do extra steps that you'll eventually mess up and lose funds

>>53133947
Fiat money is real money by any standard, it fact it's Superior to any coin

This chart looking moist.

>>53133356

>>53136170
>>53136586
Very useful, just put all the crap there and feel superior, because the retard anon will read every single link and brick of text but only if you spam like 5 posts in every general, which sure works better than how it is done in more reasonable generals in this website for ages now, right? Of course, people who want to introduce concepts will gigadump all that crap every time, otherwise they want you to fail. Glad this general doesn’t act like the illiterate retards who for ages knew how to structure information in order to balance exposure and internet. How fortunate that trolls like me don’t fall for the epic quoted with exclamations alert ... idiot.

>>53140276

Personally I'm a fan of this one

>>53140360
The Stairway to Heaven (Hell)

>>53140380
I see it as the slow grind to real adoption

So Cypher Stack are made up of Serang et al right? They audited Haven XHV?

https://twitter.com/havenxhv/status/1605537031098028032?

I’m somewhat of a monero maxi but this gives haven some credibility imo. Any XHV holders can give me the USPs of haven?

>>53133327
Can this be the default Monerochan costume now?

>>53138508
I guess I worded thay poorly but
>bitcoin isn't currency and can be easily seized
Was the point I wanted to get across since it's important from a legal standpoint, as the state can't really seize stolen money from an innocent third party, but it can seize property.
If Bob steals $10 from Alice and trades it to Cindy for 1/2 oz of silver, the state can't get Alice's $10 back as long as Cindy can prove she had no knowledge that it was obtained illegally. Even if Alice can prove which $10 bill is hers.
If Bob steals Alice's painting and trades it to Cindy for 1/2 oz of silver, the state can seize the painting as long as Alice has sufficient proof that the painting was hers, even though Cindy didn't comit a crime and had no knowledge that it was obtained illegally. The same can be said for bitcoin, though it hasn't happened yet afaik.

>>53141101
>The same can be said for bitcoin, though it hasn't happened yet afaik.
It will happen once they force every merchant to use their state sponsored chain analysis tools to check if your bitcoins are State Approved (tm).

Happens in china, verification not required.

do we have any monero chan x shota stuff?

>>53141713
dude, get the fuck out, go masturbate somewhere else.

Few months back there was a discussion about how JS should not be used in any potentional monero market due to some privacy loopholes.
Is it the same for web assembly?

>>53142405
wasm requires js for hooks, no?
just use html forms I guess

>>53142865
Don't know.
I'm not sure how much js server side blazor is using for example.

>>53138714
If you're willing to take a bit of a loss, you can sell a prepaid Visa to someone on LocalMonero without any KYC. They'll just ask for pics of the receipt and card.

>>53134920
The next generation of sim swaps is calling you and asking "Hi, is this anon" to get a recording of this to access your accounts.

>>53142865
There is work going on to make wasm work without js, I would guess it's best to disable everything if possible

Every single person who has purchased Monero in the past 2 years is now in profit or even against Bitcoin.

Monero is the king of the bear market. For a coin that makes no claim to be a SoV, it has successfully "stored more value" than Bitcoin has for 2 years now.

>>53145105
>SoV
Everytime someone uses this phrase to shill their shit its huge redflag.
It basically screams my bags are useless but please buy them because there might be some other idiot in the future that will buy them from you.
Btc maxi started to use the SoV copium only to mask how their project failed as a currency.

>>53145276
moneromarket.io
https://www.acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/
https://nowpayments.io/blog/businesses-that-accept-monero
https://www.getmonero.org/community/merchants/

Then if it's worthless you might as well spend it all and get as much as you can out of it now.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1672936627774784.webm

can i get some wews please

After reading about (((civil asset forfeiture))) in the US and the new (((time-limited savings))) plan in China, I'm convinced to put in $5k into Monero. I never thought that CBDC's and such money seizure tactics would ever be widely accepted or implemented, but this is actually unreal. Like what the fuck, man. I just want to save my money, and the government wants to bleed me like a stuck pig. Other than the businesses listed in the OP, is there a growing economy around Monero? I'm more interested in purchasing things in XMR rather than my dollars at this point.

>>53146553
>is there a growing economy around Monero? I'm more interested in purchasing things in XMR rather than my dollars at this point.

You can always become a cocaine dealer.

>>53146600
This is awful advice. Dealing with coke users is not worth it. Sell downers.

>>53146553
Most of the markets surrounding XMR are illegal, but there are people selling coffee and such. I'm sure if you looked around enough, you can find a person for whatever purchase you have in mind. Downside (or upside) is there's fewer central authorities to serve as gateways for people to buy normal things with XMR. If we had a service like Purse.io for XMR then it'd be stupid easy.
>purse.io is/was a service that allowed you to spend BTC on Amazon purchases and vise versa
>you could also create an Amazon wishlist and make a request to get a discount for 1-20% that other users could fill in exchange for your coins
If there are any ingenuitive anons who'd like to start an XMR business, I remember this being a lifesaver when Bitcoin was actually functional.

>>53146553
there's many things for sale for monero. and anywhere you can pay with any cryptocurrency, is technically also payable with monero. just don't be a fucking retard

Why did Monero keep gaining sats over the last year? It went from 3000 to 9000 in the span of a year with no signs of stopping.

Is the darknet market really such a large use case?

>>53147966
nah, nothing to see here, now move along

>>53147966
>Why did Monero keep gaining sats over the last year? It went from 3000 to 9000 in the span of a year with no signs of stopping.
XMR is maintain it's value while BTC is crashing


>>53147966
>Is the darknet market really such a large use case?
There's only like 3 legit use-cases, digital cash is the most important.

>>53147966
>Why did Monero keep gaining sats over the last year? It went from 3000 to 9000 in the span of a year with no signs of stopping.

Pic related.


>>Is the darknet market really such a large use case?

Its the network effect. Ransomware pirates & DNMs got the ball rolling, pulled in the general privacy space which in turn is starting to pull in more and more clearnet users.

And lets not forget that Latin American cocaine cartels are now also demanding payment in XMR, we're talking multi-million dollar payments here. Those funds will likely be used to pay for other criminal enterprises and an organized crime circular economy will gradually emerge, all funded by XMR.

We've only just begun.

I see the farcraster repo is constantly being worked on but was there any news about them?
They said on the last conference there would be news by the end of a year.
At least I didn't find any, last post is quite old.

>>53133327
wtf was that?

>>53148474
best korea is doing some transactions

>>53138216
aaaaagh monero chaaan
step on me with your untraceable feet

>>53148474
I boughted

how to go from DAI (polygon) to Monero without KYC?
the polygon to eth bridge says i dont have enough gas somehow

my plan was
>bridge to ETH
>put ETH on tradeogre
>trade for Monero

>>53148860
Trocador.app? Dont know if there's an option for polygon DAI tho.

>>53147283
Pretty sure there's an invoice website to pay for normie shit with xmr. Dont know the link though.

>>53148886
Thank you fren
>Dont know if there's an option for polygon DAI tho
I'll just swap to Matic

>>53148808
Is that Chopper?

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>>53146513
wew

>>53138026
coincards and allark.io, though allark is fairly new and no-one knows much about it. might be a honeypot, but you're using monero so you'll be fine

POOMPA
*BANG BANG*
POOMPA
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POOMPA
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>keeping any of your money in bitfuck or ethcuck

I like the coin

>>53133378
No, thank you.

>>53133541
L2 is always without exception a third party providing some kind of service in your stead. Retarded kikery like Lightning isn't required on XMR because it actually scales using the fucking blockchain.

>>53137678
>Anything that isn't ASIC resistant is a scam.

Strongly disagree with you there.

No active art fund projects atm so I've been honing AI/PS skills. Current method is merging the best parts (hands,eyes,background,etc) from multiple images together in PS, then img2img repainting the edit with low denoise to a higher res.

[ w H e n AR e w E g e t T I N g r I C h L a D s ? ]

The one who wanted those DVD if you are reading this, text me again.

bruh I wanted to put 15k into monero before it goes to 500 dolors

fuck you guys

Break 165 and this shit is about to fucking launch

Only issue It’s overbought on the BTC pair, might cool off a bit here but the fucking bazooka is coming soon

>>53148474
Hot take:
The buttcoin dev that 'lost' his keys to that ebil hacker is getting his coins swapped for monero

>>53152019
no it isn't overbought whatsoever

>>53152048
Who would trade Monero for tainted Bitcoins?

Why did Bukelele make Bitcoin legal tender and not Monero? Is he a retard?

>>53152136
On the Btc pair you fucking nigger

>>53152222
zoom out you stupid faggot

monero in real world utility is worth at least 10x as much as bitshit

so until a single monero is worth 10x a single bitcoin we are still not overbought

>>53152251
I said it’s coming you fucking faggot
It’s just not today but it is coming

>>53152222
Quads speak for themselves

>>53152284
we are simply not overbought by any metric

>>53152494
You’re simply a fucking faggot

>>53152536
zoom out

>>53152536
Zoom in

>>53152536

zoom in, then zoom out

>>53151124
>Strongly disagree with you there.
I don't really give a shit.

>>53152536
zoom out, then zoom in

The moonfags are going to be out in full force bros, they see the green candle and are attracted like moths to a flame. Be careful to not be blinded yourself. All that matters is achieving peer to peer electronic cash. Keep the ideals of this community alive despite their attempts to "hodl moon lambo" their way into the community.

>>53152873
We need moonfags to pump the price because the hashrate is too low and we need more miners.

be honest, have you contributed to the project yet?

>>53152943
What does increased hashrate bring?

>>53153235
increased security

>>53153243
Is this about the theory that someone could spend $10 mil at AWS to 51% us?

>>53152943
This is true, and we would also get more researchers and developers building stuff for Monero.

>>53153235
If the hashrate doubles the cost to attack the network doubles. Ideally if the price of Monero 10x'd every kid with a gayming PC would start mining since it would be so profitable and the easiest way to mine is now using P2Pool so maybe we would finally start approaching 51% decentralized mining which would be one further argument as to why Monero is the best cryptocurrency. Moonboys are annoying but hating them is retarded. The price of Monero going up would be good for the network.

>>53153012
Yes

>>53153259
No, that is a thread dedicated to an ERC - 20 token. He is talking about the number of individual wallets holding it which has no relation to network security. The advantage of tokens is that they are not responsible for their own network security and basically outsource that to ETH. This allows them to focus on pumping the price so VCs have exit liquidity.

>>53153012
>be honest, have you contributed to the project yet?
Helped fund development of the ETH-XMR atomic swaps.

>>53153012
yes.

>>53148474
CIA funding it's puppies to fight Mexican Defense Forces

>>53153012
im too tech illiterate. i wish i was smart enough to contribute in some way.. maybe il start a.. idk.. something. maybe il think of a business i can start for xmr.

>>53133938
>chart cuts off 2021
LMAO
>>53134277

>>53153012
Fried 2 3900x CPUs mining, yes.

>>53153012
I don’t know how to, so I just throw some xmr to the monero art fund.

I've taken the Monero pill bros. Give me an "at least" amount to make it. Please don't just say an unknown amount. Help

>>53154420
50 you can live well

100 if you want to be a millionaire in 8 years

>>53148474
another anime girl I shouldn't be looking for porn and do something better with my life, or my dext bags
the coomer thing is killing me

>>53154397
You can donate to the dev fund or projects.

The fuck is going on?
I wanted to finish my stack this month.

How the fuck do u even buy this shit? Binance doesnt allow me to buy in my country. Is it even possible to swap to monero without a central exchange?

>>53155387
Tradeogre

Everyone is pissing their pants about Monero today and its gone a whopping +2%

>>53155425
Independent of bitshit manipulation

>>53155387
There are also instant exchanges like sideshift.

>>53155387
>Is it even possible to swap to monero without a central exchange
yes anon
https://sideshift.ai
https://trocador.app
https://simpleswap.io
https://changenow.io

>>53155708
All basically scam you though

>>53155425
everyday there are new anti monero posts
it wasn't like that before
they seem desperate
is that good?

>>53154525
21 to begin with, then an additional 1 per month for as long as you can afford it

>>53155723
I think this is just /biz/ having a crabs in a bucket mentality and hating that something is going up in sats when everything else is down.

>>53152222
I wanted to say something, but the quads speak for themselves, correction might be coming, tho maybe later down the line.

>>53155425
you have to zoom out. it went 3x since its bearmarket low (in satoshi) a year ago.

>>53153012
Not as much as I wish I did, but yes.

>>53153012
i am the most active on cum tributes

>>53153012
I've put thousands of Monero stickers across 3 different countries

>>53152165
I like bukake but a true classic liberal would never force people to use a currency.

>>53151124
Well, not necessarily a scam, but not a good bet for the current age. Chinks will buy tons of asics and dig most of the supply.

>>53153012
I've placed stickers in a few cities, gonna place more this weekend. I also joined the Matrix chat to report an issue on the site, one of the old tutorials had a link to a defunct site that someone bought and tried using to install an add-on to browsers that visited it.

I also show my friends and coworkers how to use XMR

>>53155736
>>53155723
quite a lot of monero proponents here are very aggressive and arrogant, and doesn't accept different opinions, so it's not surprising that there's more anti monero posts
try making a post giving criticism (including valid ones) in a thread and you'll get a swarm of people trying to bring you down

>>53157692
>(including valid ones)

Such as?

>>53157692
You type in broken English and are condescending. Why are you the arbiter of what criticism is valid?

>>53157692
>making a post giving criticism (including valid ones)
Post one nigger.
It's the same 10 FUD posts and the same "criticism" over and over again from people that do not bother to do 10 min web search of the said issue.

>>53157692
>(including valid ones)

Provide some valid criticism then.

>>53155719
There is something called Xchange, it has a onion site too.
I was extremely skeptical of such exchanges, till I exchanged a small amount with a very small fee and recieved my crypto....
At least xchange aint a scam...

Can someone explain to me why the 24h trade volume of XMR is so low compared to its marketcap?

Is it that it's just harder to know the amount of XMR that is traded due to the blockchain being transparent or is there a different explanation for it?

I'm just curious why Apecoin has a higher 24h trading volume that XMR since you'd expect XMR to get exchanged a lot more as it's actually used to buy things with.

>>53158830
Because 90% of crypto volume is wash trading. You could try start a community fund for wash trading bots.

>>53158830
A lot of volume in Monero can go unreported if it's not on exchanges that report data and are counted for volume tallies.

e.g. I don't think LocalMonero, Tradeogre, atomic swaps, etc. are counted on most of the big coin tracking sites.

>>53157692

is there a website for atomic swaps or some shit?

That conniving monerochan is at it again, running freight across the seven seas and avoiding customs every step of the way. What is she up to?!

>>53133327
OOOOOO
We broke the 2021 sats high
Kek a year ago people told me how stupid it was to buy XMR

95% of Bitcoin maximalists are braindead retards who have no clue what they're talking about. Another 4% are dishonest faggots who spend half of their life online spreading propaganda to the other 98%, while "debating" outsiders with dishonest tactics and pretending that they're better than thou even when they know they lost the argument. The final 1% are reasonable people.

95% of "crypto-skepticals" are braindead retards who have no clue what they're talking about. Another 4% are dishonest faggots who spend half of their life online spreading propaganda to the other 98%, while "debating" outsiders with dishonest tactics and pretending that they're better than thou even when they know they lost the argument. The final 1% are reasonable people.

Conclusion: If you're ever in a situation where someone tries to argue about Monero, you're almost certainly either debating a retard (unwinnable battle, even if you're clearly right) or someone who isn't interested in genuine discussion in the first place. In both cases, it's a waste of time that would be better spent on improving and contributing to Monero. Legit questions are obviously a different thing.

>>53161166
Typo, said 98% instead of 95%

Around how many minimal amount transactions can I make with $20 of monero?

>>53161861
try it out and let me know how many you can do

>>53161861
Dunno man, i'd say 2million.
You want to spam the network? Go ahead, we could use some fun.

>>53133327
Monero Bros, sons of Tacotime...
Come join Decred bisons on BisonRelay.org
A #Monero channel exists to join.

Direct details to join found here:
https://matrix.to/#/!GHnoHXSgkVAsUknRUg:decred.org/$tdpPg8WYSQGCizeGngYeoXSG_lCBrTnDxcuLGiZbfuI

>>53146553
moneromarket.io
coincards.com
download CakeWallet and use Cake Pay
cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

>>53146553
also allark.io

So the Monero logo is literally a copy of some Turkish metro logo lmao.

>Buy XHV now it’s still dirt cheap. Trust me, I’m 145+ iq faggots. All my bros at Mensa have been accumulating

>>53161166
>95% of Bitcoin maximalists are braindead retards who have no clue what they're talking about.
This applies to any group of people.
You can go to gardening hobby group and 95% of them will know jack shit about growing anything, let's say 4% will be competent and 1% will actually know their shit and grow new varieties to push the hobby forward.

It's not hard once you understand the basics of any hobby/group to recognize the 5% and just copy them.

>>53155724
1 per month isn't fast enough

try to get 50, and if you can get 100 then great, then 5 per month

>>53153012
My business accepts XMR

>>53161861
Probably a lot, IIRC a transaction around $60 USD had a fee of 0.0001.

>>53157692
>(including valid ones)
99.999% of biz fud it the same


>pedo coin
>infinite supply
>will get banned
>who needs privacy besides criminals

It's very rare to see valid criticism on /biz/ regarding XMR

You guys think it'll go over 160 tonight?
Feel like it's a little late to break the 24h high but it's been trending upwards all day.
Also, how long you guys figure before we see 0.01 on the BTC pair?

>>53164159

related: >>53161166

>>53164180
February will very possibly break .01

>>53162073
Yes, I plan on running tests for an automated tipping system I'm working on, will post results.

>>53162497
Would it be considered spam? Is monero even designed to deal with many tiny transactions?

>>53157692
Can you fuck off already gaywad? Every thread you're bitching about how Monero people hurt your fee-fees. No one cares about your ancient fud. We've all heard it a thousand times before and you've contributed absolutely zero useful information.

>>53151186
if only we could get the eyes to be better this would be perfection

>>53163537
No the logo is a reference to black hat and white hat

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1673025236694993.webm
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1673025168235046.webm
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1673025785846603.webm

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1673025236694993.webm
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1673025168235046.webm
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1673025785846603.webm

Anons I just decided to use a drill press to open my drink instead of a bottle opener so we can add a painted aluminum bottle cap to the list of things I've knowingly consumed. We're currently at
>glass (from broken fanta bottle)
>charcoal
>powdered charcoal (same week as last)
>raw meat
>raw seafood

What should I add to my list of dumb shit to consume?

>>53150848
Not just you, the only coin i use when I want to remain anonymous, as well as the sylo end-to-end encrypted messaging app that doesn't seep out user's data

>>53167948
Last video is a video game
?????

>>53165760
>Is monero even designed to deal with many tiny transactions?
I dont know, but i was hoping to find out.
I think scalability is one of the main concerns of monero blockchain. They always talk that in the future storage will be huge and cheap as well as connections but they forget than we might need that tech rn and not in the future. If monero is trully battle tested it should be able to resist a spam attack rn.

>>53153695
more pls ?

>>53166528
This is better, now she only needs to lose the anime face. dont hate me monero chads, but i dont like anime art. Im hoping to see monero art in the future thats not anime related.

>>53133327
monero is gay and so are you

check em

>>53152222

Tarot are better, you know.

>>53169507
Cool, now fuck off and buy your dog coins.
>>53157692
See above
>>53161166
>95% of Bitcoin maximalists are braindead retards
replace 95% with 99.95% and we have a deal
>>53161861
Pretty sure minimum fee is like ~0.000033xmr maybe a bit less (looking on xmr chain) so whatever amount of XMR $20 gets you divided by that minimum fee.

Also obligatory FUCK YOU to the moonfags

The only 3 viable holds right now

>>53170154
>my server was accesses
>wtf guys my stuff was compromise I have no idea how
Are you fucking kidding me?

>>53146617

Sell acid. Most profitable in Australia and safest to smuggle by far

>>53170238
I still don't get it
what's eth for?

>>53170154
He should have sticked to FIAT

>>53170238
>3 Viable holds
>Precious metals
>Stocks and bonds
>Ammunition
And monero for buying things privately

what are some gd things to buy with xmr? i just buy coomer shit like OF siterips and mv/c4s clips at discounted prices.

>>53170644

Buy Amazon gift cards with XMR through CakePay and take your pick.

if only monero had a less retarded name it would be so much more adopted and popular. people might actually take it seriously. also the chink cartoon art doesnt do it any justice

>>53170713
>if only monero had a less retarded name it would be so much more adopted and popular. people might actually take it seriously. also the chink cartoon art doesnt do it any justice

Yes, that is exactly how stealth tech is evaluated in darknet circles.

>>53170739
they should have just called it bitcoin from the start since its the correct concept of a cryptocurrency. the shitty BTC would have been overlooked and forgotten about as everyone flocked to XMR (bitcoin)

>>53170765

>>53170713
Am I the only one who finds the name quite catchy? It's like a combo of money and dinero (something people associate with 'lots of money'). And the X in XMR makes it sound cool.

>>53171573
I really like how the X has the double meaning of a currency in FX not controlled by a country and also the usual X being umkmown.

>>53171573
Well that is one angle to look at the name. But really "Monero" means coin in Esperanto, originally it was even called BitMonero, ticker BMR, essentially being Bitcoin in Esperanto. But was understandably dropped for the more catchy Monero. And the new ticker, XMR was in order to comply with the ISO 4217 standard on the naming of currencies, where first letter "X" is used for non-national currencies. Fun fact this also applies to Bitcoin, and some legal documents and exchanges even list it under XBT.
See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563821.msg6362485#msg6362485 for the namechange
And https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7098497#msg7098497 for the ticker change.

>>53170649
Is this a good idea? I heard that amazon giftcards tend to be rejected by the site.
There are warnings in card sites about this issue, but i've never tried myself.

and when was the last time you donated to the monero project?

>>53170713
Monero could update it's presentation a bit in some aspects
Like mono color or using more black
people do judge a book by it's cover in the end, but not sure how the community would feel about it

>>53170644
you can pay for high end hookers with xmr. they all have btc accounts, so you can use the trocador.app payment feature to automatically convert your xmr into btc that's paid to the hooker's btc wallet, all anonymously through tor

>>53172516
Orange and grey are terrible colours. I prefer pic rel, but all black is good too! even all orange is better than it's current colours.

>>53169025
>shilling sylo again

>>53172886
I personally really like the current color scheme

>>53172516
Love this idea. Like a declassified document.

>>53172886
no we have already done so much, it's gotta stay #ff6600 who's gonna update the 12+GB of monerochans?

>>53172516
love the black one. i also agree, we could use some update in the logo, maybe along with seraphis in a few years.

If I want to mine monero what is the electricity cost like a month and the return?

>>53172886
agreed

>>53172886
That just reminds me of Viewtiful Joe, or perhaps Strong Bad.

>>53172886
Anyone tried grey and black

>>53174492
https://xmrig.com/benchmark here you can view the approximate hashrates your CPU(s) can reach

Cost of electricity is highly dependable on what you pay per kWh, it can range from $8-$40 / month per CPU (105w).
Single CPU operations are basically break even at $0.15 kWh

>>53172516
>>53172886
>>53172968
>>53172993
>>53173712
>>53174589
>>53174722
>>53174788

Choose your player (or submit alternative).

>>53174843
Thanks this is exactly the info I wanted. I don’t have any monero but I am big into privacy and hate the power banks and governments have on normal people so it looks like something I should look more into.

>>53175064
I'm fine with the original, but #3 is also good since 16-color CGA has red, but not orange.

>>53175064
4>1>5>2>3

>>53175064
1>>>>2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the rest
Logo is fine.

>>53175668
True, no point fiddling with years of brand awareness for the sake of it.

>>53175675
I've seen people use 3 & 4 in the wild. Looking around forum.monerochan.news uses 4 and themoneromoon.com seems to use 3. But I'm pretty sure I've seen 5 as well somewhere else. So there branding isn't that big of a concern, modify the M in the circle as it will please your site's theme and look. And if you are a journo, you can still visit https://www.getmonero.org/press-kit/ and get the "official" versions.

>>53175064
4/5

>>53167948
I don’t understand what’s goin on. Is it Mexico or Ukraine?

>>53169442
How's this

>>53176246
who's she?

>>53176270
It looks like Monero-chan combined with Saint Mary.

>>53134058
>lightning network
>useful

Layer 2 is literally Jewish.

>>53133327
i am convinced that monero is the real digital gold. price does fucking nothing for decades. exactly like gold.

>>53134058
one interesting thing monero can do if the devs finally fix the broken multisig, is federated chaumian mints same as bitcoin. these mints could be connected with non routing payment channels, but these channels can actually be virtual such as both ends are held by the same entity. so entity-to-entity hops happen in node not on edge between nodes.

>>53176246
man that is dope, keep going.
is there a way to make it look like a statue?

https://monero.observer/monero-official-wallets-included-i2p-based-live-os/

has anyone used this iso yet?

>>53176659
It's supposed to already look like a statue. Does removing saturation help?

>>53176728
no
very interdesting anon
like tails but i2p?

>>53175064
4
black is the highest contrast, easiest for people to print/display and implies privacy better

like >>53175768 said, there are currently so many third parties running a modified version because of current color/presentation limits

>>53177038
yeah fuck scaling and instant off-chain payments, right! the fucking logo and boobies! that's the important stuff!

>>53153695
I’m hard now. Someone make more

>>53169440
>>53177229
this sers

>>53176924
That's what I'm thinking. Fuck it, might as well torrent it and see if it's worth it.

>>53177161
go join the dev team and discuss or help build it then
you apparently think the community making an anime mascot is taking up resources, kek
and monero simply needs a presentation refresh

Changing Monerochan's colors is a non-starter.

>>53177615
it's not the resources it's the priorities. devs will be motivated to work on what's in popular demand. you needing things get done gives them the strength to do it. if you waste all that juice on boobas the devs will just wank all day and do nothing!

>>53133327
AI art is so shit bros
>ooooOOoooOOoh i type words in and it instantly shit out art look how cRAZY that is
yeah it still fucking suck though

>>53177161
>instant off-chain payments
This sounds like lightnigger network shit, no thanks.

>>53177742
It's a tool in the belt. If you just type a prompt and post results it usually sucks, but if you put some effort in and refine it you can get stuff that looks really good. Picrel.

>>53177038
Black does look dangerously based.

>>53177615
does monero accept strategic devs? i dont have coding skills but i understand economics and rules of adoption a lot better than their monkey codepunks. monero is a decent product but needs improvement in a number of key areas if its ever going to see adoption on a mass sclae

>>53178443
very

>>53178499
message them with a good resume

>>53179208
RSI is a meme indicator.

>>53179208
looks like its about to take a huge dump along with the rest of the crypto market

Bros, how do I get to 1MH/s? This shit is hard.

>>53141713
you should die instead

>>53141713
Haven't seen any but I think it could work. Something like pic related, with several Monero-chans as a representation of decoys in a ring signature.

>>53171573
I think the name is based and XMR is much better sounding than XBT.

>>53175064
1 > 4 > 2 > 3 > 5

>>53179925
Jesus how many 3900x rigs did you buy?
Or is this still gpu shitcoin conversion mining?

>>53180390
>Or is this still gpu shitcoin conversion mining?
More likely

>>53180390
Too many.
>>53180402
nope

>>53180369
God I wish that was me

>>53180507
Like 20+ rigs?
You have warehouse anon?

>>53180378
>I think the name is based and XMR is much better sounding than XBT.

XMR sounds like "exterminator" while XBT sounds like that rapper.

ok so i bought a small bag AMA.

long way to 21 xmr. guess it's not wrong holding some.

>>53180690
>ok so i bought a small bag AMA.
Did you pull your neros to your own wallet? Did you write down your wallet's seed phrases?

>>53180690
>>53180714
no point in buying a big bag now. the whole markets will crash across the board the first half of this year, keep some cash available to buy the dips in a month or two. by the end of this year we will have like $15 XMR

>>53180690
You made a secure wallet, right anon?

>>53180737
>we will have like $15 XMR
Monero will never be below $100 ever again.

>>53150793
They're like collectables! The first real non-fungible tokens!

>>53180826
>Monero will never be below $100 ever again.
Agreed. Bitcoin can go to $1000 and monero will still stay above $100 simply because it's price is based off real world markets (DrTor's prescriptions) instead of speculation.

>>53178499
you are a retard, like elon. stay away

>>53180848
>Agreed. Bitcoin can go to $1000 and monero will still stay above $100 simply because it's price is based off real world markets (DrTor's prescriptions) instead of speculation.

this
absolute bottom for xmr is 90-100$, upside potential is limitless
while BTC bottom is zero, and there no rational upside potential

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>>53175064
there's an open issue on github for that
https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/752

>>53180819
what's the best way to have a secure wallet?

>>53164159
You have to learn a lesson that few to zero teachers and professors dare to teach, if they even know. That lesson is: Whomever controls a currency controls all who use a currency. This is why it is illegal to issue a currency without government approval. Who controls cryptos?

>>53176246
Lookin good. If you need pose ideas for the mascot, consider a sweet sexy pose whe she reassures the viewer of the picture that they are safe when alone together. EG, Monero chan stretched out on a couch with bare feet and legs, loose top, about to get totally undressed. CAPTION: Let's build a whole world together!