/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>53126754
Everything wrong with humanity

a thing that can be traded for other things that inherently has no other value

>>53126754
Money is literally social credits

>>53126874
What is your non conventional definition of social credits?

>>53126754
Money is a dynamic logical representation of a unit of labor. This logical unit can be exchanged for physical units of labor. Because labor is determined by supply and demand, which are constantly in flux, and not all labor is equal, this is not a static unit.

>>53126953
Don't shill here, you hear me?

>>53126754
time=money

>>53126986
Good then my son

>>53127019
What is your non conventional definition of time?

>>53126785
Fellow chad simplifier

No money no honey? No pussy no work?

>>53126754
The life blood of society.
Interest sucks it out of it, trying to control it clogs up arteries, too much of it concentrated in few hands causes tumors

>>53126754
Intermediary between commodities

>>53126754
My definition is that you should give it to me. All of it.

>>53126754
Money is a form of social proof. People will do things for you if you have it, therefore having more money means more things that can be done for you by others.
Its also what i call a material illusion. The material illusion of individuals is free will, the material illusion of society is money. Both are extremely useful concepts, and basically neither individuals nor society can function without them. Yet they are more or less indefinable.
Now whats the conventional definition of money?

>>53126754
universal medium of exchange

>>53127051
An irreversible cause and effect

>>53126754
Its like Chaos orbs in POE.

>>53126754
Something I don't have.

>>53129173
Kek

>>53129015
bs
Time does not exist. The hologram structure appears to be linear for beings of lower dimensions. You grasp the whole painting at once. A 2d or 1d being would have to travel through it, and they would perceive it as traveling through space-time.

There's no cause and effect. Everything exists at once, fully.

>>53127051
Time: The sole possession

>>53128938
>Now whats the conventional definition of money?
You tell me, in non conventional way of course

Time is a flat circle, and so are coins, thus Time=Money

Loot that drops when killing grandmas and women at night

Money is money. It has no allegorical equivalent. It can be created and destroyed out of thin air without concern for time, space, energy, supply or demand. All of those concepts fail to understand money in it's totality both as a physical, digital, social and magical object.

>>53126754
A unit of utility of all the market's available goods and services

how's that?

>>53130561
>A unit of utility of all the market's available goods and services
>how's that?
how's what? and how do you understand the defintion of utility in non conventional way?

>>53130528
>Money is money. It has no allegorical equivalent. It can be created and destroyed out of thin air without concern for time, space, energy, supply or demand. All of those concepts fail to understand money in it's totality both as a physical, digital, social and magical object.
Yeah i understand but what is your definiton of money is just money in non conventional way?

>>53130801
I don't have a high enough IQ to properly ascribe words to it. If I did I'd probably have 9 figures of wealth by now.
>t. 7 figure peasant

>>53130487
Don't spread violent messages here all right? but anyway what is your non conventional definition of violence?

>>53129173
>Its like Chaos orbs in POE.
What is POE? Never heard of that, you're probably a gamer? what is your non conventional definition of games?

>>53129545
time exists, at least the past does. the past can be proven by observing the present.
the future on the other hand, is an illusion

>>53129224
>Something I don't have.
Then go get it son i believe in you

>>53130987
How is the future an illusion if it meets and is defined by the present? We are constantly penetrating the illusion, so to speak

>>53131019
the present is defined by the past. the future is just an idea in your mind

>>53131033
The past is contextualized by the present while the future becomes the present. We're moving forward, always. I like the Tralfamadorian explanation of time via Slaughterhouse 5 by Kurt Vonnegut. Beads on a string. The past is concrete, the future, while uncertain, becomes the present, or, a new bead. I'm not advocating telling the future but there are patterns of the past which can inform the future's becoming of the present

>>53131129
>>53131033
>>53130987
>>53130378
Jesus fucking christ you absolute retards stop sliding the thread with this gay babies first metaphysical conversation
>>>/x/

>>53128998
>universal medium of exchange
How do you understand the phenomenon of universals in non conventional way philosophically and economically speaking?

>>53126754
Time / effort tokens.

I realised that as a kid when we went to a car wash and I thought it was odd how you had to pay to get a token to then pay the machine. And then I was standing in the swimming baths buying a coke and figured, these are ultimately like "effort" tokens. Or used to be.

It's reached comical levels now where they seem almost randomly handed out.

>got frizzy hair? OMG. WORTH IT!

>>53131156
You fucking dimwit retard, this is entirely on topic. Time=Money, deal with it fag

>>53131129
the future is at best a good guess, literally nothing about the future can be proven, only given a "likelihood"

>>53131208
This I agree with, but that's why studies of "probability" exist. What is the probable outcome given the information at hand? I absolutely live life informed by the past, while grasping at probability. I'm not perfect, or I'd be omnipotent. That's the big gap between us and "Godliness". We can't be sure, but there are methods which can help penetrate future information

>>53130987
I meant that it doesn't exist in an incremental sense. Totality of existence is right now in eternal now, like a painting that doesn't have before and after at top and bottom, but for a figure in it that moves from top to bottom the top is known and bottom is not. But only because it is an assumed two dimensional being. For you, a three dimensional being, the whole painting is known instantly.

>>53131250
probability is just mathematics, it is not reality. what are you actually saying is something has x% probability? you are saying that for many future events, x% should happen. but this means very little for one or few events.

>>53131282
It's impossible to be an octopus draped over the globe of the world, having all of the moving pieces within reach. I feel like this is the key to "living in the moment". Subjectivity-wise, I don't feel the future is darkness, that we all follow our individual light. What that light is, I believe, is the patterns which have been developed in the past. That's how I react to my immediate environment. Food for thought, I'm posting from the future where your post is the past, we meet in the present. Your information informs what I'm going to say

>>53131278
ok for a higher dimensional being the future may not be an illusion, but for mankind it is

my own thoughts are that money and modern society is just a way to keep everyone busy and chasing a narrative.

>>53131359
The show must go on...

>>53131328
you are describing a phenomenon called "recency bias". unfortunately outliers are the ones that have the most impact

>>53131194
Time doesn't equal money because then as you approach the speed of light a pile of cash in your pocket would experience dilation, much like the sewn together collection of cadaver flesh you call a "vagina" undergoes twice a day to prevent healing.

>>53131454
>recency bias
I don't feel like I'm speaking solely on the "recent', all patterns of our development as a species must be considered. Although I prefer to stick to the contemporary as the near past, and near future, work the best for me in navigating my present. I'm tuning out for the day, good chat, anon :o)

>>53131490
I can guarantee without a doubt that my gargantuan dong outperforms yours. Maybe we should have a sword fight

5th dimension correspondent to time concept of "now" (4th dimension), here (3rd dimension)
basically time is a made up 4th dimensional human construct, money is the 5th dimensional version of that.
in every dimension humans have invented imaginary constructs to describe the storage of energy. here is a storage of energy. now is a storage of energy. money is a storage of energy.
everything in the universe is energy being stored/expressed/changing in different forms

>>53126754
*hits pipe*
money is a eugenics program

>>53126754
The world's actual religion. I wonder how many prayers to God are prayers for dirty fiat currency backed by nothing but jewish tricks?

>>53131338
I believe it is possible for the same reason it is possible for us right now to have a mind of a human, and we're currently not a mind of an individual neuron, or individual fluctuations of quantum foam that comprise this neuron. I mean why are you not a neuron?

I think it is possible to ascend to a collective human, or galaxy mind, or whatever, the whole hologram.

>>53126754
It is the stuff you use to buy other stuff, some sort of paper usually, other times round little pieces of metal. But when you wash it, it stays mostly the same. Maybe gets a little crinkly. It has pictures of famous people like Sacajawea on it.

In itself it’s not that valuable, but cuz everyone values it, it becomes valuable. If you have enough of it, you don’t have to worry as much.

It's just an abstraction of physical resources. So when people say money shouldn't be everything they're wrong, money really is everything. It's our way of downsizing everything into an efficiently transactional form. It wasn't arbitrary, it was a natural evolution in trade.

>>53126754
The proper one you should have been taught in school is this: A debt owed is money created. A debt repaid is money destroyed.

>>53131585
possible that man is an emanation of a higher dimensional being who forgot(?). but i dont know anything about it

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>>53131529
>muh dik
Shouldn't you be watching a basketball game or getting a free lunch at school something?

>>53131033
reality is a state of mind

>>53131695
The fuck, you are the one insinuating I have a vagina. You sound fun at parties, go die alone retard

>>53126754
kikes can't crypto

>>53126785
you're going to be one of the really poor ones kek
>>53126754
Conventional answer is gold, i agree