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>>53105575
>>>/lit/

>>53105575
idk about books but all I want is a vinyl record of "For Segregationists Only" by Johnny Rebel and after searching online I think it's impossible. The soyb0ys at all the major vinyl marketplaces have banned it.

>>53105575
My parents have a rare out of print fairy tail book but it includes a story about a guy tricking a jew and getting him executed. How can I profit from this?

>>53106232
I remember downloading that off napster back in the day.
Now it’s impossible to listen to online.

Op, look up first editions of famous books.
I would love a first edition of Moby Dick

https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=Melville&bi=0&bx=off&ds=30&fe=on&pics=on&recentlyadded=all&sortby=1&tn=Moby+Dick&x=48&y=18&yrh=1851&yrl=1851

>>53105575
Or just find a first edition of The Hobbit.

https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=31245039639&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-tile1&searchurl=ds%3D10%26kn%3DThe%2Bhobbit%2B1937%26sortby%3D1


Presentation copy, inscribed by Tolkien on the flyleaf, "Mr. & Mrs. Livesley & Edgar with best wishes from J.R.R. Tolkien." The recipients, the Livesleys and their son Edgar, ran the Kennaway House, a Regency town house in the village of Sidmouth, East Devon which Tolkien used as a summer holiday home and the surrounds of which inspired the landscapes, flora, and fauna of The Shire", the region of Middle-earth inhabited hobbits first introduced in The Hobbit.

great thread op
there are expensive books that stopped publishing relatively recently. Maybe try sorting books by price on amazon and look for unavailables? The intent is get them before they further increase in price.

>>53106613
Older esoteric books too. like pre 19th century alchemy texts or books published by golden dawn, etc

>>53105575
Books that have been published after '45 usually have been printed in such big numbers that they aren't worth anything, except some limited editions.
Try the red book by c.g.jung or the one that was written by the jews that did 9/11 (e-group or sth.) it doubled its price in the last few years

>>53106627
some modern occult books go for ridiculous prices
like chumbley's works and out of print books from three hands press

>>53105575
all collectibles will be worthless soon
only boomers spend big money on them
boomers are dying off now
most collectibles will be worth the same as baseball cards soon, ie worthless

>>53107171
assuming nobody collects anything lol, LOL

>>53107171
so baseball card collectibles had a boom, then died off? once the generation that collects that collectible dies off, it loses value?

so collectibles are only a 1-generation investment? after that certain generation dies off, those collectibles become 'worthless or lose value'?

worth looking in charity/thrift shops for books fellars? Or is there a better place to purchase some gems?

bump for interest

>>53105575
I buy retarded website names. Thinking of buying mypepe.com atm.

>>53107308
Collecting will always occur. Values fluctuate though. There are peaks and there are troughs. Generally after peaks collectables never return to ath. Keep in mind everything has been overvalued the past several years with all the cheap debt and money printers going brrrrrrrrr. Those times are over. Corrections will be occurring across the board for collectables. Now is a terrible time to invest in them outside of uniquely low purchase opportunities.
>>53107458
Are you 12 years old?

>destroys your wealth storage

>>53109064
May I introduce you to the scutigera
This little monster has been killing roaches, silverfish and other bugs for millions of years, unchanged. It's one of the few animals that hunts for sport: a single one of them is able to genocide an entire colony of a hundred cockroaches overnight, for no reason other than sheer violence. Its entire design is based around being a lightning fast killing machine, the dozens of legs allow it to quickly infiltrate bug colonies and genocide them with its paralyzing venom before they even understand what's going on.
They are disgusting but also harmless to humans, they have a light bite, won't hurt much and they only ever bite if they can't escape - which is extremely unlikely, considering they can run faster than your eye can follow them. The scutigera is, quite possibly, the single most useful animal you can have in your home.

>>53105592
>>>/lgbt/

>>53108935
True. I almost exclusively buy at extremely undervalued prices to guarantee a larger profit when selling. So not a worry of mine. I do see certain items lose value and popularity based on generational recognition (for example, fiesta-ware dishes brought a tidy sum for boomers and older) but now they are unrelateable and therefore unpopular to younger gen. They will have their day briefly again. But I also see quick bursts (trends) in rediscovered items. For instance, the resurgence in mid-century decor... I find it harder to find timeless items, they are all but scooped up and at the heritage auctions, museums, and private collections now.

>>53105575
>>collecting rare books as a store of wealth
you haven't considered this properly.

>>53109688
I had to look up fiesta-ware.

I already hate boomers with an undying passion, and this doesn’t help. What happened to an entire generation of people to identify their character with the items they purchase?

Boomers are such bad people, they can’t die soon enough.

I have an unopened 1996 White Power by George Lincoln Rockwell, John McLaughlin first edition.

>>53109159
Can’t believe that thing kills cockroaches.

>>53110898
Some ceramics, including some Fiestaware, have uranium glaze. I have a small collection.

Oh, and I'm a boomer and will probably outlive you because I have a clear conscience, a healthy lifestyle, and do not wallow in hate, vapor, and psychiatric drugs.

>>53105575
I have a final print edition of the yellow pages, it will go in museum one day

>>53111041
They are pretty big. First time I saw one I thought it was an alien.

>>53105575
>Im going to start collecting books this year since tptb are obviously interested in rewriting history

>>53111165
If you dont think they are rewriting history right now. Then you are the schizo.

>>53105575
Love collecting interesting books not for a store of value but rather the old books have their own life you can feel when you hold them. I have a signed first edition of On the Road by Jack Kerouac. That’s my favorite thus far

>>53111121
Fat chance fat ass. You couldn’t lose weight to save your life. You'll be living in assisted care in less than five years while some Mexican caretaker ignores your screams and pleas to help with your cold turkey and stuffing dinner.
Ill be right there when your children sell off your summer home in Vermont for pennies.

I masturbate every time another million boomers die.

>>53106232
literally just call up record stores in the south and see if they've got a copy, ebay and discogs are truly soi

>>53111041
It runs like 10x faster than them, it stings the cockroach and then holds it with some of its legs while the venom kills it. Many legs means they can lasso and kill multiple insects at once, hence why they can genocide entire colonies by themselves in a short amount of time.

>>53111226
Couldn’t agree more. Look how many stores no longer sell “culture of critique.” Since Kanye the book is gone from almost every major seller

>>53106684
>Books that have been published after '45 usually have been printed in such big numbers that they aren't worth anything
lmao this is straight up fraudulent advice
clean copies of hardcover firsts by notable authors are "valuable", i.e expect to pay a lot of money for them, especially if they're assocation copies

that said, they're a terrible investment; they're heavy, easily damaged and succetible to the elements, and most of all, the market is both extremely illiquid and unpredictable. you can pay $4000 for a book that can sit unpurchased for a year even if you priced it at $1000 less than any other available copy
books are a pain in the ass and small fish compared to shit like watches
>>53107502
>worth looking in charity/thrift shops for books fellars
not at all. some charities will do large book fairs with a special collectible section, but at regular thrift stores you wouldn't even be able to eke out minimum wage

>>53108935
>>53109720
>>53111165
>>53111428

But anon, a real pre-industrial book represents a complicated system of data storage and transmission mediums and mechanisms combining to form an art-object of great inherent value. As the elite from the industrial age are joined by the "new money" of 2000's silicon valley, I think we will the elite's taste for art shift towards these kinds of artistic commodified data. What I don't think you see is that in the context of the real antique book market, working class and middle class people have never seen cheaper prices or easier access to this centuries old market for commodified data. I can access the market for professionally restored 17th century volumes of any writer I choose and review all the available specimens of a specific printing or edition I want to acquire. I can compare them based on quality of binding, completeness, provenance or distinguishing particular features, and I can do this all instantly and without paying an intermediary other than a third party shipping company if the deal is done. I exchange a day or two's menial white collar labour in my nation's currency for this object. This has never been either technically feasible or economically possible for a person in my position before in history. Some of these original books hot off the presses in the 1600s would have represented a year or two's wages for an Englishman with average income at the time.

The biggest reason these objects aren't more highly valued than they are is that western financial elite (3rd and 4th sons-of) in our now ending industrial era is naturally both decadent and no longer educated in any real serious, as is true in all late-stage societies. That'll likely change as a growing cadre of more sophisticated financiers, dexterous with things like interpreting and qualifying information regarding complex computer systems, join their ranks in the next decades (guys like who Peter Thiel became in the 2000s, for example).

>>53111275
What happened to you? This kind of pure malice requires an origin story

Also you know you can just nut any time you want right?

Would you wanna buy a commentary on the bible from 1606 from me? The cover is damaged and it would need rebinding.
Its written in old english

>>53107111
Yeah alchemy books from the 1700s and back go for 6 figures.

>>53110898
>>53110898
You are a petty, vile disgusting creature you cant even realize every feeling and opinion you have coursing through your monkey lemming brain was put there by spin doctors
The averagr "boomer" had fuck all to do having created or having any control over any state of things today which you are blaming them for

Your as bad as BLM antfascist rioters looting and burning random peoples businesses who have nothing to do with you and never harmed you in any way

Identity politics and divide and conquer is the game today and you're an ignorant willfull participant in destroying the good and the innocent while promoting and supporting the progress of the evil ones who are actually responsive for and in control of all the bad shit that is fucking us all.

>>53111890
I didn't understand a single thing you just said but I enjoy collecting Morgan dollars.
>Ignore the NTC slab

>>53112130
Boomers were and are the "masses" in the "mass culture" age. In the industrial society, wealth gathered around those who could best anticipate and cater to the needs of this "mass" of uneducated eaters. The boomers are not a sophisticated wealthy class -- many of them are hardly literate in any real way. Look at how poorly this seething, balding, pudgy middle manager anon writes.

>>53112252
Do your identity politics division handlers give you a new script every day?
Or they just tweak it a bit every other day?
How much do they pay you to aid them in the destruction of the world?

>>53112314
Go buy some more mass produced pottery and stare at it you drooling fucking retard

>>53112250
I don't own any PMs yet but I like them and plan to start buying them in the future when I have wealth to preserve. Even as a non-PMs guy I can tell that's a beautiful object and I have the instinctive desire to own one

>>53105575
Sadly out of print.

>>53111428
not true, Ive found books worth $200-500 at thrift stores.
I also got a $200 books for free at a garage sale.
I heard her say
>lets pack up and drop everything off at the thrift store after this guy leaves
book was 25 cents so i asked her if she had change for a $20. she told me to take it.

>>53107458
Yes usually. But the curve isn't linear, as the older the generation gets, the more nostalgic they become, and the more capital they have.
So basically it usually slowly creep up the first 2 decades, then after 40 years it giga-boom, then it crash down to zero once they die off.
Stamps are the perfect example. You have collections who were worth hundreds of K's back in the 90s who aren't even selling for $10 on ebay nowaday. Because the silent generation was the one interested and they pretty much all died by now, and their children (boomies) don't give a shit about it all.

>>53111428
This desu. Books are a trap. Too fragile, too illiquid, too unpredictable.
Personally i just recently started to collect pre-revolutionary silverware to protect my wealth. I've no idea if it will pay off or even wtf i am doing, but i'm giving it a chance while it's stupidly cheap.

My reasoning :
>precious metal within guarantee the minimal value
>various hallmarks guarantee the origin, the date or creation, and make them easy to track down, pretty much the OG collectible with security features
>250+ years old stuff charged in history but still retardedly cheap
>doesn't degrade with time, resistant and easy to ship
>pretty liquid online
>eating will never go out of trend

>>53112532
fuck, wrong pic

>>53105575
>He doesn't have a flurk

>>53112532

>>53105575
Almost everything desirable has been digitized or reproduced since the copyright is out of date. This means you're going to be hording collectables like pokemon cards rather than something intrinsically valuable like obscure information. It's not going to be as sexy as it sounds. My mother used to own a business just going through used books at stores and flea markets and buying works whose value the seller didn't know, and that tended to be more profitable when going from quantity over quality. (Though I sometimes got some good books from her) But if you're still interested, I'll give you a tip. There are a lot of out of print Egyptology books that scholars and occultists alike spend hundreds, even thousands of dollars to get their hands on. Pretty much any archeology book you see is worth a quick price check.

>>53106627
I read those books and you should know that those aren't the kind of books you stumble across, barring incredible luck. Most have been snatched up and a clear price set. And the non-collector demand is fairly low because of things like digitization and reprints. So you'd be buying them at market price and at-best selling them for market price. The fact that many books on alchemy are still in Latin also limits the market. This is the market here in America though. Maybe in the old world there's a stronger tradition of passing down texts, including alchemy and the occult. America had a massive spiritualist movement but we're too new to have old grimoires and alchemical texts.

>>53112130
Shut the fuck up boomer. Don’t you have some tacky television program to watch? Right after you fuckin microwave your dinner like the lazy sack of shit you are.
I hope walgreens mixes up your medication and you die next week, cunt.

I have a rare book collection. Top 3 items are:

Bilingual German English Bible printed in 1863, excellent condition

Early print softcover edition of Baden-Powell's Scouting for Boys, fair condition

German Biography of Franz Ritter von Epp circa 1930s, has a Reichs Eagle on the spine, poor condition because the cover was damaged when I bought it. Btw I'm not a Nazi like most anons I just learned German as a second language in school so I also collect German antique books.

I find all my books in antique stores and flea markets. Paid about $120 in total for all three aforementioned. Diamond hands tho, never selling.