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I brought the coffee anons, are you trades going well?

I did it. I bought the local bottom.

>>53084295
me on the top right

Yield...

Last day of the year

oh my god

February marks 2 years since growth stocks started dumping and bear markets last about 2 years so BUY BUY BUY REDDIT BUY.

>>53084322
is that actually the fucking yields
that is screaming more fed rates and more dumps

2023 predictions, I'll start:

It's Over

Oct 22 was the bottom

Bobos will seethe

fuck stocks fuck 2022 its caturday

>>53084371
>october was the bottom
>net liquidity is making new lows
you're in for a surprise

>>53084363
I predict that there will unironically be some sort of "pivot" in 2023 and bears will be absolutely ass blasted about it, even after getting an entire year of red. So much of this year has been bullshit speculation to the downside with a shit ton of leverage, and we're almost to the point where shorting doesn't make sense anymore.

On a side note, I hope SOXL hits 100+ in 2023

good morning I hate living in canada

>>53084353
Yes.

>>53084394
my condolences anon

>>53084395
>>53084353
the market is telling the fed that they overdid the hikes. they're not going to hike further. the fed pause is now.

WHOA BLACK BETTY

>>53084439
you retard if that's what that means the long term bonds would be high because people would be locking them in with the prediction that rates are going to fall

the financial illiteracy of this general shocks me sometimes

>>53084450
>the long term bonds would be high because people would be locking them in
yeah because when people "lock in" or buy bonds the yields go up.

>>53084363
Oil go up
Tin go up
Copper go up
Stocks go down

>>53084439
The market will yield to Jerome's interest rate cock.

Could memestocks come back after a Fed Pause ?
I know you guys hate them but just look at this objectively and as a possible opportunity

Also wanted to ask about earnings, are earnings positively affected by a lower current share price?
I'm thinking of how AMC got the shit kicked out of it recently and how Avatar 2 came out, has done fuckhueg numbers, and how that will possibly be reflected in the next earnings but also in how the current share price is relatively low, so that may act as a double tailwind

>>53084483
I won't buy stocks of companies that have failed to turn a profit in 4 years and are running out of cash

i.e. bbby and gme
and as for amc, I don't hold them, I just hold the reits holding the movie theaters. I own the amc landlord

I still feel like shat so this will be quick and dirty and not the fancy image I'd normally put up. For the year 2022 I ended up down 9.72% (v.s S&P -17.92%). Divvy ended with $885.71. C.C debt cut in half. Emergency fund on the path to being re-stuffed. Hub bank savings is almost back to the minimum level we like it to be. Long as no more surprise whammy bills come in things will be on track for 2023 to be good year (extreme cold so whammy gas bill)

>>53084295
stop posting pictures of my female broker(s)

>>53084506
>your hedge fund manager boss getting fucked by the market so she takes you to her office and hate fucks the shit out of you to let out some steam

>>53084517
god I wish

Mumus... we lost...

>>53084526
with my bad luck my boss would be a futa or into pegging

>>53084489
this is the weirdest of all the bots in this bot thread

>>53084483
The bottom for meme stocks is when my AVPT bags cross the 200-day moving average. It's inevitable. I've been holding these for 2 years.

>>53084487
Since last earnings both Black Panther 2 and Avatar 2 have come out and done pretty well
But okay whatev

>>53084553
sounds like a ton of good luck to me

>>53084537
these are too good

>>53084487
won't the REITs do badly if AMC becomes insolvent?

>>53084595
Yes, the two big ones are NNN and O and O is down mainly because movie theaters were like 4% of their portfolio. But at the end of the day if AMC goes bankrupt, the reits still own the property. They are hard assets they sit on and then just rent to someone else.

Why is no one talking about COIN, it is currently at $35 and at the peak of the crypto bull market it was $350. Potentially x10 return and if you buy in your tax free account you are looking at insane return and paying no tax.
The arguments against buying is it could go bankrupt like FTX but it is a public company which reports its financials each quarter, another argument is crypto is dead but we have previously seen it recover 3 times, in addition you have VC's and asset companies (BlackRock) investing into crypto which further attributes to the survival of crypto long term.

You are ready aren't you? For....you know.....the big one....

Wishing everyone a happy New Years. Who are some of the more memorable posters of 2022? RIP to the anons we lost. Next year, Jerusalem!

>>53084632
why the fuck is this happening during this 3 day holiday at the new year
>>53084628
fuck off tulip fag

>>53084632
how do I bet against this

I started 2022 with 1.3mil and now I have 800k. I'm stressed as fuck and don't know what to do.

>>53084647
>Who are some of the more memorable posters of 2022?
Frasier anon as well as this new ai waifu maker.
KPop fag become somehow even more of a loser because he keeps deleting his posts

>>53084489
Bag some CSCO please divvy boomer

are you looking forward to another year of jews dumping bags on you?

>>53084560
KO boomer is a unique flavor of /smg/
good for a sensible chuckle
I imagine him as my boomer neighbor that fires up his old mustang every other Sunday afternoon just to keep the battery charged and gas from going bad but never drives it more than a mile or two around the neighborhood

>>53084647
oh fuck I just remembered, we had that one glowing fed poster who watched the thread 24/7 for months and immediately respond and fight with anyone who dared to suggest inflation was caused by the fed's monetary policy

dude was on a life crusade to memory hole the fact that low interest rates and abusing QE causes inflation. Eventually he stopped posting but he was our loudest resident glowie

FUCK BAGGIE
FUCK ROCKER
FUCK /SMG/
FUCK YOU
>HAPPY NEW YEAR

>>53084647
whatever happened to CLF tranny, I remember he had 1 million at one point then went to 800k

>>53084679
All the meltup, harbinger, buy puts namefags
It was all the same schizo I'm pretty sure

>>53084628
COIN is financed by debt and they do not make profit. It's a shit company. Compare with Kraken which didn't do flashy ads, sold bitcoin in bull market to prepare for bear we are in now, and its business model is based on trading fees and staking, treasuries spread fees. Too bad it's not a public company.

Why buy COIN when you can buy bitcoin?

>>53084647
Shoutout to the ADL Janny that shows up here in the evenings and bans everyone.

>>53084707
rude

>>53084295
>>53084537
What GPUs are you guys using?? The ones I generate are too obvious that it's made by AI unlike yours.

>there are people who still buy crypto
crypto's whole push was that it was supposed to be decoupled from the market
a new type of safe asset i.e. a modern form of old world gold

not only did it dump with the market but it dumped harder, not even extended long term bond fags dumped as hard as crypto and they are the most sensitive fucking things that exist because they are 30 year investments

>>53084715
Think he fucked himself by gambling on SPY futures

>>53084727
you made me make a folder
damn you

>>53084742
see you in 2 years

Whats the best way to take a 9mo 0%apr creditcard and turn it into something that will be usable on a broker? Someone said some prepaid visa cards will convert to cash alternative is buying something worth like 3k and selling itbut i dont want to have to deal with taxes

>>53084774
>"just t-two more years g-guys... I swear it'll... it'll come back"
fuck off crypto fag

>>53084727
>pink-haired whores
No, they cannot be office workers. Pink-haired girls usually work in brothels.

>>53084802
pink is a normal hair color for anime girls and they sure are allowed to work office jobs or we're having a problem

>>53084737
>>53084727
>>53084537
>>53084526
>>53084506
>>53084295
ai is poopoo shit fart garbage

>>53084828
>t. art major watching his "career" dying in real time
cope

>>53084828
>t. mad "artist" who cant charge 80$ for drawing porn anymore
kek I dont need you anymore, I can just let the AI generate everything.

>wanna go on a date with my waifu?
let the AI draw it
>decide to marry my wafu?
let the AI draw it

you and women are obsolete

>>53084693
>imagine him as my boomer neighbor that fires up his old mustang every other Sunday afternoon just to keep the battery charged and gas from going bad but never drives it more than a mile or two around the neighborhood
Kek that's literally me

>>53084792
I remember posting in stock thread at somethingawful about buying bitcoin in 2018. Got a lot of shit for that from people like you. They laughted at me again when price fell off later that year.

Permabears are the biggest faggots.

>>53084628
Oh we are talking about shorting COIN at a consistent basis. Shit is going to zero lmfao

>>53084742
Crypto/defi is shit
BTC is not shit
It's possible to make a distinction as they are not at all the same
That said, I feel like BTC could retest some extreme lows
But BTC is the best chance we'll ever have outside of silver (not gold lol) to defeat central banking

>>53084872
>But BTC is the best chance we'll ever have outside of silver (not gold lol) to defeat central banking
you're a zoomer that forgot that the government literally banned owning gold in the past

>>53084322
Ok I'm going 90 global all cap and 10 uk long duration bonds this year until it grows 20% plus. We already know there is atleast one more rate hike so its basically guaranteed free gains when they start offering 20 year gilts at the current rates

>>53084872
>most easily traceable "currency" in the history of mankind
>cant sell it unless you doxxed yourself on a KYC exchange
>said something bad against the govt? your wallet is now blacklisted

bitcoin is glowing hard

>>53084690
>tfw fapped to the full image on more than one occasion

>>53084826
I refuse to trade unless my broker is female and let's me abuse her. Could you generate a female broker that's abused by her clients but satisfies there every trade?

>>53084895
Firstly I'm more of a boomer (42) and 2nd, they didn't actually confiscate any gold, 3rd, it would be all but possible to take over BTC that way, you massive fucking retard.

>>53084900
You can never really blacklist BTC. As for tracking, that applies at a government level, just leave if you government is that shit and remember your words.
Idk I'm even defending BTC here, I'm not some big BTC shill, I just lean more towards it being a solution to central banking. Idk why anyone who isn't a banking kike would even disagree with it as an idea. Is it overvalued at 16k? Sure
It's still great tech though

>>53084897
>not going for EDV

>>53084872
>(not gold lol)
I can sense your poorness through my monitor. Face it faggot gold has maintained its value much better than silver. Gold/silver ratio chuds will rope

I think we crab

>>53084950
I own gold you fucking retard. But the ratio is largely a result of price suppression. Never thought I'd see someone as retarded as you on smg but here we are.
How is hating the idea of the GSR returning to historic levels even a thing? Fucking lol smg you continually surprise me.

>>53084943
you can blacklist a wallet. all wallets back then which are linked to silk road and the containing bitcoin got blacklisted. if that shit gets moved the govt knows, and they are locked from exchanges.

>>53084727
>Top left
A classroom with monitors randomly on desks, one monitor is somehow blending into the chalkboard.
>Top right
Montiors are basically floating in the air and the broker's legs aren't even there
>Bottom left
Broker's arm is somehow behind the monitor that is behind the desk which she is leaning against
>Bottom right
Top monitor is somehow floating in the air and her chair is way to high comparative to the desk.

These are pretty bad.

>>53084951
which AI makes these again?

>>53084980
>he doesn't know to wash BTC
Kek ok stay dumb

>>53084951
Bottom middle is really good, except for her finger.

>>53084624
who's gonna rent a movie theatre?

>>53085003
just use monero, why the extra steps?

>>53084975
>b-buh, but muh manipulation!
like fucking clockwork hahahahahaa
>How is hating the idea of the GSR returning to historic levels even a thing?
And why would it? I have yet to see any good argument for why it would. Every time it has swinged down it has promptly swinged back up, and the time it swinged in the 80s was because of a faggot that cornered the market

Buy Defense contractors if you love America

>>53085023
>why would it
I didn't come here as a silver shill
If you notice, I was posting about AMC. Somehow making a flippant passing comment about silver and gold makes me a shill or whatever. So yeah let's not even bother.

>>53084727
guys
trader waifu who's breasts change size based on her portofolio size

>>53085043
what do i buy if i love money?

>>53085052
moo~

>>53084676
If you are a DCAer, just keep going, stick with the plan. If you lost it day trading, knock that crap off. I didn't know any Asians had ever heard of Coors Banquet.

>>53085047
>no argument
clockwork

>>53085052
300IQ

>>53085093
N

>>53085066
GME the squeeze hasn't begun to squooze fellow apes


Edit wow this really blew up thanks for the gold

>>53084781
Sales taxes? Or what taxes are you referring to?

well I was DCAing like every other asshole last couple years, buying Cathie shit, buying bits of Amazon and this and that. Now I haven't done much and am just throwing money into a saving account that has ~3% APY - is this stupid, should I be doing something else? probably just DCAing into SPY or something? this is all separate from my retirement

>>53085108

>>53085077
What game is this?

>no rate hikes until 2024
>inflation is transitory
>terminal rate is 3%
>terminal rate is 4%
>terminal rate is 5%
>soft landing
>"softish" landing
>no recession
>light, shallow recession

>>53085113
the real way to get rich is IDCA - inverse DCA - that's DCA but while a stock's price is rising
Wall Street don't want you to know

>>53085144
I dunno, I dont get to play games anymore.

>>53085148
stop, I need a brutal recession

>>53085014
I had the same thought at first. But around here they've been converted into venues for meetings, lectures, and small concerts. I have no idea how/if they are profitable. One is a local beer brewer, with the lobby turned into a bar.

But it's not nearly as flexible as office or warehouse space.

>>53084471
platinum moass q2/23

>>53085171
That image gave me physical pain

We are here plan accordingly.

>>53085185
i think that meeting space is just not good, because when business shrinks they're not going to approve travel, less meetings. small concerts could be interesting, but the chairs/setup would interfer with rock/metal that'd like that the most. but they have food vending ready so it could work

>>53085066
DXY I suppose. It is owning money. Of course there is always a savings account. They're great for hoarding cash.
>>53085113
In my taxable account I'm holding VTI and JEPI. In my Roth, it's VTV. I should be 100% VTV for the next 6 months.

>>53085223
The venue was converted about 8 years ago and is still in operation. But this will be the first recession they've had to deal with. My company has moved to every other year in person sales meetings. Money is tight.

>>53085228
Or after the next JPow crush, go 80% VTV 20% BND

>>53085211
>share secret to riches
>reply has nothing to do with what I wrote
that's why /smg/ is 92.7% bagholders

in the last 2 weeks of the trading year, GME and BBBY sold off -30% and AMC sold of -50%. retail is finally capitulating

good podcast
https://slate.com/podcasts/slate-money/2022/12/the-2022-markets-wrap-up

>>53085291
AMC is fucked. It'd take several back to back blockbuster type films all coming out over several years before they even climbed outta debt. Which the last time that happened was when the Harry Potter films were popping out like mad during the 2001-2011 era.

>>53084295
Bros I need an anime about autistic girl trading guild that inspires the protagonist to leave waging forever and to start investing at their side...

>>53085361
well, like escaping the wagie cage, you're not getting it

>>53084305
*smacks coffee on the floor*
Im down 13% this year

>>53085324
2023
Super Mario, Nigger Mermaid, Guardians of the Galaxy, Transformers, Indiana Jones, Mission Impossible, Dune pt 2, new Hunger Games

>>53085291
The GME cult will probably last well into 2030.

happy new years smiggers

any ibbros know when will they give me the tax info for this year??

>SPX still pricing in bull-market like growth next year
We're going to follow the exact same path next year. Downward crab.

Are these threads satire?

>>53085443
I bet the cultists will be around until the company inevitably bankrupts, maybe even after that. Idiots are unable to admit they were deeply wrong about things

>>53085501
>>53085443
they shouldve gone with the silver squeeze instead. at least silver was up on the year

>>53085501
It gives them hope to keep going to work and stay part in the system.
>if we invest money into the system harder! we overthrow the system!

>>53085501
>company banrupts
dilution is a thing bro

>>53085531
Even that was a retarded movement that only served to prove that silver is not significantly undervalued.

>>53084592
If you spend more than 2 seconds looking at them, you'll start seeing the flaws. They all try to hide the hands because the AI routinely fucks them up, and the middle top one literally has an extra joint in her arm

>>53085489
sometimes Im asking this myself too

>>53085551
You can only dilute so much while the company remains a cash burning machine

>>53084563
>Black Panther 2 and Avatar 2 have come out and done pretty well
The absolute state of the film industry in the current year.

>>53085489
of course they are
however, i made a fortune of them

>>53085556
holds its value decently well though. at least you dont lose -50% with silver like GME did this year

>>53085583
better go with gold if you want to preserve purchasing power over the long run. Silver is for speculation only and you'd do better with trading shitco miners or ETPs or even futures

alright smg I have to work on new years eve, so this is my last post for the year. I really hope you make it some day and most importantly become happy.
happy new years you faggots

>>53085603
agreed but there was no big retail movement on gold, it was silver - thats why i was using it as a comparison to the GME cult. silver is a better cult if you have to join one

>>53085361
there's a manga, fx trader kurumi chan

>>53084676

revenge trading is the only option otherwise NGMI

Are /biz/ anons ready for the rentier future economy?

Is the growth of niggers and spics in the United States bullish for KO?

>>53085625
agreed. GME can and will go to zero eventually, silver probably not (though oil went below zero for a while so technically silver could too)

>>53085623
Take care anon. See you next year.

>>53085638
I fucking love FX Warrior. It's physically painful to read at times, seeing as all of the worst trading mistakes are stacked on top of each other

JP Morgan is the largest holder of silver and has repeatedly faced legal action for manipulation

>>53084676
>I started 2022 with 1.3mil
What did you do?

>>53085623
>>53085623
at a job, money is a byproduct, move to where money is your main product
don't look for a job cause a job gets you money, look for money cause money gets you money

>>53085654
>coke is for poorfags
color me surprised

>>53085603

This is true, but unless you can buy multiple London bars (and use your own machine to X-RAY ALL OF THEM), gold has little to no value. Paper manipulation and retail metal premiums are so exorbitant, the entire market is 100% scam.

>>53085682
they can manipulate short term movements for trading purposes but they don't have control over prices in the long run. If silver was really cheap like the schizos say then the market would make it go up. "Muh bankers" keeping down silver price is peak retard cult belief
>captcha: JPMJRV

>>53085662
Silver isn't primarily a commodity, it's actual money (not a promissory note like the shit that is in our brokerage accounts)
It's value would only go to zero if there were no people left to use it for trade
Oil went to zero because global industrial demand suddenly went to nothing
When I observe this general discussing silver I feel like I am observing some retarded monkeys.
You guys are alright for understanding macro but you don't get why there is a lot of attention being given to silver recently (at least on biz, on cmmg and pmg)

>>53085682
largest holder of paper silver*
not physical
can't believe you missed the most important part out

>>53085654
>SNAP requirements are having your bank account under 2k
Shit I could move my emergency funds to my brokerage and live off government money?

>>53085730

This simply isn't true. Silver is not money. That's just a meme perpetuated by people selling silver and their useful idiots.

>>53085300
>50:30
>There's a 91% chance, historically speaking, that stocks are gonna go up in 2023
>Since 1928, the S&P 500 is up roughly 55% of the time following a year that preceded it with a gain
>So that makes sense when you consider the market is up three out of every four years on average
>The stock market has been down following an up year 18% of the time
>It was also up 18% of the time following a down year
>So that leaves just 9% of the time when stocks were down one year and then down the next year for back to back consecutive losses
>Meaning 91% of the time, that's not what happens

>>53085768
ur dum
>not an argument!
You didn't make an argument

>>53085730
>silver is money
WHY WONT 7-11 TAKE MY SILVER BARS THIS IS BULLSHIT

>>53085773
Why do people engage in this kind of analysis instead of looking at the actual market conditions

>>53085774

I don't argue on the internet. I state facts.

>>53085784
Because it's easier

>>53085804
So are you going to?

>>53085773
>It was also up 18% of the time following a down year
>So that leaves just 9% of the time when stocks were down one year and then down the next year for back to back consecutive losses

>>53085730
>Oil went to zero because global industrial demand suddenly went to nothing
I think the zero, or even negative price occurred on some future contract with physical delivery to a certain oil hub at a certain point in time, and there was just no space there. Oil demand didn’t go to zero

>>53085816

urmom is a fat ho
nasdaq ticker FATHO to the moon

>>53085768
silver used to be actual money though, like coins in circulation had silver content. nowadays its like 50% investment and 50% industrial use cases

>>53085816
>>53085830
haha rekted!

>>53085730
No, silver is a commodity. It's used in the production of various products including but not limited to batteries, solar panels and medical products. Don't be a retard. A significant portion of silver demand is from industrial demand, another big part comes from jewelry and a part comes from investors buying bullion

>>53085825
I think the point is that there are relatively few down years. If half the years were up and half were down, then it would be 18 / (18 + 9) = 66% of going up, but since 3/4 of years are up, it's actually 9%
I don't know if I actually buy that logic, but... if the numbers are accurate it does kind of check out

>>53085871
Er sorry, I meant 9 / (18 + 9) = 33% chance of going down if half of years were up and half were down, but since only 1/4 are down years, it's only 9% chance of going down

>>53084303
go back >>>/biz/catalog

>>53085773
>statistically after a rainy day, we have a sunny day 91% of the time
>it rained today
>thus, even though there's a hurricane on track to hit the city tomorrow, there's only a 9% chance anything happens

>>53085836
I don't get how smg says shit like "unprecedented times, high Fed rates" but then doesn't want to even entertain the idea that people may return to a silver standard. Not saying it will happen in the West anytime soon but it's increasingly probable something like this will happen in the global South and this will plant the idea in the minds of other countries if it takes off, like El Salvador with BTC, only people in the global South will have far better access to the silver market.

>>53085864
L2read and l2logic cunt, I said primarily. I know it's being used in industry. That doesn't mean it isn't primarily a monetary metal, fucktard.
Humanity has been off the silver standard for less than 100 years for the first time in history and look at the shitshow it's become. It's not impossible to think we'll return to it, and like I said it may happen in the global South far sooner than anyone thinks possible.

>FREE Bloomberg terminal
What's he planning this time?
IIRC he "got a porn virus" that scammed his viewers last time

>>53085884
People will look at this and buy in Jan
>>53085902
So, how often do you correctly predict the market? Is it perhaps 50% of the time?

>>53085927
>Shkrelberg is still going
Wait, I thought that guy roped due to SIGA shorts (on the way up) which he exited (right before they came back down).

>>53085652
>When you realize gates owns almost the land mass of california across the US...by himself
This was always our future.
>>53085678
>mfw 8 months ago

>>53085939
I predict that most predictions will be wrong

>>53085965
Yes it is foolish to overly rely on predictions

Can someone give me some quick spoon feeding on covered calls? Would it be good to do with SCHD since that doesn't grow too much and is non volatile? And then just collect dividends as a bonus?

>>53085751
Probably accounts for assets too.

>>53084295
test

>>53085906

These concepts you float are functionally impossible because central banks have basically taken over the world. There is NO_WAY_IN_HELL they will ever allow their control to be diminished at this point. Every person (presidents) and country (Libya, Iraq, Venezuela, recently) who have gone against them gets rekt.

You need to zoom out and quit repeating the advertising bullshit from people selling retail metals. Unless you are taking physical delivery of 100+ London bars, you are a poorfag getting scammed. Period.

The central banking overthrow of Earth is COMPLETE. Next up is digital currency they can erase when you post wrong think on twitter.

>>53085939
>So, how often do you correctly predict the market?
Perfectly. I predicted raising rates will cause a downturn in equities. Ready for my other predictions?

>lower earnings revisions will also be bad for equities, if they happen
>rate cuts without a credit event is bullish

>>53085654
And how much goes to lottery tickets?

>>53085871
I'm not sure that it could ever work out that way in the long run if the 18% up after down stat is accurate. That means a bad year is followed by another bad year 82% of the time. That means if you ever get a bad year, you're most likely to get stuck in a series of bad years until you eventually get lucky and get that 18/100 chance of breaking the streak. That's gonna create a time series where you have these long streaks of bad years. A window of time where only 9% of years are red would have to be a time of exceptionally good luck.

>>53085964
>gates owns almost the land mass of california across the US...by himself
Whats he planning with that anyway? He wont break even until another 20-30 years and hes mostly selling potatoes to mcdonalds or something. Why would you spend so much on an investment when your kids dont even like you now.

>>53084828
pick up the pencil drawpig

>>53085144
Cunny Lane, that's a boat

>>53085052
Wouldn’t work for me. I prefer petite women with small chest.

>>53086033
Did you profit from that prediction, and how will you profit from your prediction for 2023? If you’re so convinced, surely you’ll bet on it too

>>53084989
Midjourney/Nijijourney probably

>>53086068
You're mixing up the possibilities. The chart shows all four possible timelines from one year to the next. If the 1st year is down, then there aren't four possibilities for the next year: only two. You can already discount 55% and one 18%, so your total is now 27%. So... if year 1 is down, then 9 / 27 = 33% of going down again, but 66% chance of going up this time

>>53084828
stay mad faggot

>>53085537
TRUST THE PUMP
t. g

>>53086068

You guys have target fixation that borders on astrological nonsense. Just zoom out and draw line through the mean. It works with all the indexes. After every bubble, there is a rapid deflation and *very rapid* dip below the mean, the a return to it. We are about to hit the rapid dip below the mean. This will destroy all of the early long hodlers and allow the MMs to pile in 10 trillion $ when the S&P is around 2800. It might even dip to 2200 very briefly (like one day in May) and then we could easily finish 2023 above 4000 again. But, you must never forget that the ups and down and actual numbers mean nothing to people who control that system, because the money in irrelevant to them. It's all about control. Never forget you are body-surfing in a rip tide.

>>53085828
oil went negative because traders were left bagholding futures contracts that were coming up for delivery and they did not have a place to take actual delivery, so they had to pay people who could actually take delivery to take the contracts off their hands at a loss

so whoever was on the other side of that trade not only got free barrels of oil - they were PAID to take those barrels of oil and then sold them a few weeks later for like a 6x when oil recovered

If Ukraine wins what happens to the stock market?

>>53085654
>What an evil use of taxpayer money.
Not if you're holding KO.

>>53085654
the other 50% is me

Hello guys, and Happy New Year
I wanna get trading permissions for options trading, does anybody can give me advice what letter should I write for IB to get acces, the only want 50 words, I don't have this money, so I'm liar, wanna get help pls

>>53086117
These medieval Ai are pretty good desu. Definitely useful as a prompt for movies and such.

>>53086141
>2800
that's ridiculous, won't go below 3200 in the absolute worst case. The underlying economy is too strong and everyone knows ZIRP and QE are coming back if the market goes down too far now that inflation has come down. The bottom was probably already in in October.

>>53085906
>I said primarily. I know it's being used in industry. That doesn't mean it isn't primarily a monetary metal
Let's look at the facts then faggot
https://www.silverinstitute.org/silver-supply-demand/
>2022E bar & coin demand: 279.2Moz
>2022E total demand: 1,101.8Moz
>279.2/1,101.8 ≈ 0.2534
25.34% of total demand comes from people buying coins and bars. That means it's NOT primarily used as money. It's primarily used in industry.

fucking mong

>>53086187
>what letter should I write
N
What other letter is there?

>>53086086
>Why would you spend so much on an investment when your kids dont even like you now.
Worse, his daughter is dating a nigger. I think they're just buying it so the unwashed masses can't.

Post some baggie cope
>nobody could have POSSIBLY predicted that our overvalued tech stocks would down

>>53086117
>>53086202
>you can never go back

>>53084363
Every year since the early 2010s has been worse than the next on a logarithmic scale. I have been stocking up on food and supplies for when China pulls a "special military operation" in taiwan and we block all imports and exports with them and food and shit skyrockets. only positive will possibly be for oil and gas since china uses a shitload of that, but we also get a ton of our coal from china so the energy shenanigans may balance out somewhat. I predicted this uear would be a huge loss/crash in the stock market and that there would be global economic turmoil in September of 2021 by the way.

>>53086116
Yes I've been in cash since November last year (a bit early). I will continue to collect high interest on my cash until conditions improve. If I knew the month and week on when things will get better or worse, or how the market will preform I'd retire already. But obviously nobody knows. What you can do is take a step or three back and pay close attention to global macro.

>>53086214
I should reply them about my net worth, where I get money

>>53086187
how much money did you tell them you had?

>>53086141
>It might even dip to 2200 very briefly (like one day in May) and then we could easily finish 2023 above 4000 again.
Lmao

>>53086213
Could be but still not sure why hed care lol. Hes gonna die before he sees it do anything. Plus soon as his kids inherit it the darkies will sell it all off to buy sneakers.

>>53086155
Imagine if they self reflecting a little and realize they are creating the propaganda.

>>53086223
which stocks are they talking about?

>>53086202
Nice Dark Souls AI art

>>53086125
>The chart shows all four possible timelines from one year to the next.
That's presumably derived from a snapshot of a time series and they just looked at what happened from one year to the next in that snapshot. Their numbers are all wacky if they truely believe that a bad year is only followed by a good year with 18% probability. Think about what woud happen if that were true. You'd have less than a 1/7 chance of a good year following a bad year. Having one bad year would set off a streak of red that'd easily last the better part of a decade. Even if the initial bad year was unlikely to happen, if it ever did happen, you'd get a big sweaty ballsack on the table right in the middle of your time series. It's just not likely to play out the way they're saying it would. What ever snapshot they took for the time series would have to be very lucky at not getting bad years or getting out of bad streaks abnormally quickly.

>>53086225
>Every year since the early 2010s has been worse than the next
Occupy Wall Street?
>>53086202
>Armor from imaginary 80s AI prompts is more kino than whatever's in modern films
WAKE ME UP

>>53086206

Again, you are repeating memes. The market can do ANYTHING. The more people think it won't do something, the more likely it is to do exactly that. The POINT of the stock market is to remove excess capital from the hands of EVERYBODY. Even hedge funds - because normfags are the invested in said funds. Never EVER think that "the market cant/wont/should/could..." because you can bet urmoms fat arse it will do the worst fucking thing - if only in a flash - because that is how excess capital is transferred back to the central banks that created it.

>>53086248
Motley fool focuses on high beta tech stocks. Similar to cathie wood

>>53086149
Yeah, that is kinda funny

>>53086214

Some anon wanted more so I came here to deliver

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>>53086231
Net Income 45-50
Net Worth 50-75
Liquid Net Worth 20-50

>>53086213
The the Gates family will end up like the Vanderbilt’s in how fast they can piss away the family fortune. Sad really. Can you imagine how openly racist you could be having that much money?

>>53086225
Eh, food is all domestic in the US but pretty much all plastic junk will go up. Good news is companies have been moving production to mexico, specially after the 2020 shit show.

>>53086117
I believe this one is elden ring AI art? im not as familiar with it as Dark Souls 1

>>53086261
There are plenty on bear doomers saying he same thing

>>53086001
>central banking overthrow of Earth is COMPLETE
Thought every tyrant, just before they were no longer a tyrant
We're in hugely unprecedented times, not sure how you're this certain something won't start blowing up soon
If anything their grip is looking weaker than ever. Central banks rely on credibility, that's been totally destroyed globally, and for the 1st time in human history people can talk and send ideas globally.
Of course, it's not impossible things may just be can-kicked a bit longer but things are so unpredictable right now that only a dumb person is certain of anything.

>>53086284
thats not really that much. just say you got it through working a regular job

>>53086275
Nice anon thanks. Any with lofi/nighttime vibe ones?

>>53084295
Does SOXL have hold defense/terrorism companies?

>>53086230
When I wanted to level up my options trading account with etrade I just said I only wanted it to paper trade.

>>53086261
>The more people think it won't do something, the more likely it is to do exactly that.
In most years everyone thinks the market will go up and it goes up (bull markets).
>The POINT of the stock market is to remove excess capital from the hands of EVERYBODY.
No it isn't. You are dumb. Remove your money from the market before you go broke.

>>53086287
>Good news is companies have been moving production to mexico
Will our taco friends go back down South then?
>>53086292
Filename, bro.

>>53086275
>red haired girl has red charts in the background
>green hair girl has GAINS

>>53086275
>https://files.catbox.moe/ntnnwl.png
This one is a naughty broker.

>>53086228
I see, so you avoided the stock market losses by cashing out. Why not go short, and when will you start buying back in? I personally believe we saw the market low in autumn. We’ll see if that will be correct

>>53086287
we get a lot of ingredients for goyslop from china, especially oils, it will absolutely cause more supply chian shocks and food price inflation. shit like car parts, small motors, hvac parts and all sorts of parts of factories come mainly out of china so you'll see shit like we already have, where you have to wait months or years to get a 1000 dollar part to get a multi million dollar piece of machinery running again, get 10x worse at least. My guess is that will be the main disruptor of production and supply chains and setting up all the individual factories to make all those parts elsewhere or to swap out machinery that relies on those parts will be a 5+ year ordeal

>>53086323
>Will our taco friends go back down South then?
lol nah, they just make more beans.

>No TMV equivalent for Canadian bonds
There is nothing good in this country

>>53086323
Shit you're right. at least i got it purely on my own i guess

>>53086285
That's the case for pretty much every family. The wealth and prestige goes away after 3-4 generations. Most dynasties only last because they're tied to things that are difficult to liquidate for your retarded offspring to waste away

>>53086310
Any SOXL holders here

>>53086208
>ignores my main point then starts screeching like an autistic troon
LMFAO

>>53086366
they are always here lurking

>beginning of December
>invest $4k into Vanguard funds
>end of December
>lost $4,259 for the month
oof...

>>53086345
The goyslop must flow...

But yea I hear you, i'm a contractor and have been dealing with supply chain issues for years now. I'm stocking as well, have a freezer full of chicken and a pantry full of rice, lentils, scanned goods, spices, ect.

>>53086340
In my eyes, holding mostly cash is a short position. It's an unleveraged bet, but a bet nonetheless. I knew the market was in trouble way before I took my holdings out but I was STILL early. I can't time the market. The best position at the start of 2021 was short, the 2nd best was cash (funny saying that when inflation was out of control kek). I'm happy with that.

I'll buy back in when rates collapse and I can't make 4% having cash sit in a savings account. Until that happens I don't think we've seen a bottom. We shall see though indeed.

>>53086378
>"I said PRIMARILY"
>I point out that you are 180-degrees wrong and that it is in fact primarily used in industry
>cope and deflection follows
sasuga silver chud. Silver is demonstrably, factually, primarily an INDUSTRIAL COMMODITY

cope
seethe
dial 8

>>53085361
also unrelated to stocks but based on gambling with yakuza in squid game like events, Kaiji
>>53085678
kurumi chan is gmi

Any good Chinese stocks?

>>53086467
>kurumi chan is gmi
With those assets? Most definitely... OF when?

>>53086480
No, always no.

>>53084659
Short VIX, harvest contango. If you short front VIX futures now at 23.15 and spot VIX doesn't move that means your futures go from 23.15 now to 21.67 on Jan 17th so you win by having VIX not even move.

>>53086480
>That one fat black bitch
How did she pass bootcamp?

>idiot takes the idea from Office Space to steal $300k from employer
>blows that money on GME options
wtf
https://www.geekwire.com/2022/office-space-movie-plot-gave-zulily-engineer-a-blueprint-for-financial-fraud-prosecutors-allege/

>>53086419
>In my eyes, holding mostly cash is a short position
Wouldn’t this being in cash is short every market you are not in, but clearly that is not the case, because to be short you’d have to profit from the market going down. You don’t profit from markets going down when in cash.

>>53086480
I would stay away from those until geopolitics has settled down. So until 2030s most likely

>>53086001
the federal reserve international settlements cbdc will be backed by silver look into it

>>53084676
Many such cases. Try listening to us, Mumu.

The waffle house girl is a disgusting wigger mud shark. It hurts. How do I short waffle house?

>>53086480
jesus

>>53086508
Meal team six.

>>53086513
I profited from DXY going up.

>>53086480
Most people don't understand the demographic shift that's happening yet. They still look at demographic stats that include boomers, which are 90% white. When you look at the birth rates it's way worse than the average person thinks

is it too late to request a refund for this year's bad trades from my female broker?

>>53086584
>anon your refund has been deployed

>>53086584
maybe you can get paid $10/day for cunnilingus under the table while she is making millions trading

>>53086308
Here
Basically only OLs, didn't really hit that aesthetic close, might try another day with image2image

I'm already salivating over AI models/systems in the year 2040, might cost a pretty penny but my god

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>>53084526
>>53084506
>>53084295
>>53084727
I love these they are amazing

>>53086572
My city uk is literally <50% white and the worst part is that a lot of cities in Europe are like this. Its gotten to the point where the foreigners make everyone feel bad for disliking them and they also hate the new foreigners. Poor white kids are the worst off demographic because they will never get any help from the diversity squad

>>53086517
it aint settling down then, thats when it goes into overdrive

>>53086572
yeah, once the boomers are gone white millennials and gen z are going to be slaughtered

>>53084303
takes one to know one

>>53086609
Yeah seems like its far from that image but these are pretty good too. Ai 3D waifu bots are looking more and more realistic in our life times. Keep posting some of your experiments here. Biz needs some new reaction images.

>>53086480
Short answer is no

>>53086480
I'm holding OBOR, just have a feeling.

>>53086602
What is she even typing?

>>53086679
Was my thought exactly, who the fuck types that much

>>53086480
i held VIPS all the way down from $18 to $7 and got out now that it hit $13
i dont even know why its going up, their last quarter had much higher EPS but they also lost revenue so thats not very promising

What are some stock market companies I can invest in that have little to no relation to Jews?

>>53086679
a very long ticker

>>53086623
You're just a couple decades behind the average American east coast city. Every city in the west will meet the same fate just on slightly different timelines.

>>53086687
porn is so unrealistic
competely unfappable

>>53086510
>https://www.geekwire.com/2022/office-space-movie-plot-gave-zulily-engineer-a-blueprint-for-financial-fraud-prosecutors-allege/

why doesn't scoops do something cool like this.. unless?

>>53086480
Nobody with a brain is going to join a Military like this:

>>53086687
If she had an /smg/ thread on one of those scenes it would have been more realistic.

>>53086729
>He clarified that he had used the money to invest in stock options, particularly GameStop stock options, and reiterated that all the money was now gone.
kek baggies

>>53086729
>smart enough to pull of a scam
>stupid enough to blow it on meme
lol
>>53086737
>shitposting on /smg/
>cropping and posting charts
Yeah, that sounds about right.

>>53086602
I can't fault her, I too sit in my underwear behind my pc

>>53086734
the only reason to ever join the military is to blow shit up or fly really fast jets. if you can't do that, there's no fucking point because everything else is boring shit

>>53086679
hdfaskljhdafgsjkhasgjhsadfgsdfkjlasdfj

>>53086734
In other countries, they don't have a fucking choice. National service is required if you're male, of age and a citizen.

USA relies on a very dedicated (and very pro-trump) elite troop squad and incredible tech (procured through generous defense spending) as their force multiplier; it only relies on enlisted for maintenance and logistics not as shock troopers. A draft wont be in the cards even in dire circumstances, also because if they do draft then enlisted complaints and morale would go through the bottom because of, well your post.

>>53086734
imo the military should be disbanded to pave the way for universal stimulus checks, it would be anti inflationary since the military wastes so much money losing wars

>>53086881
>In other countries, they don't have a fucking choice. National service is required if you're male, of age and a citizen.
This is true, I served my time as well

>>53086881
I'm not serving a country that hates me for $20k a year.

>dividend stocks are bad because you get taxed on the dividends!

I don't get it? Can someone explain this logic to me? A growth stock might not get taxed in the short term but EVENTUALLY you will have to sell the stock and pay taxes on it. You are just pushing your tax liability to the future instead of the short term. Am I missing something?

>>53086927
I can only reinvest half of the dividend if its taxed whereas without a divvy it should go up what a full divvy was

>>53086927
Long term capital gains is 0% in the first bracket.

>>53086927
You don't understand what happens in flat/lost decades.

>>53086962
>>53086962
>>53086962

>>53086962
>>53086962
>>53086962

>>53086927
The argument is that instead of the company paying the divvies and therefore reducing its cash position, the company's value will remain higher and they can use that money to invest and further grow the business. Divvies reduce the company's growth and are subject to immediate taxation while growth is faster when taxes/cash payouts are delayed.

That's the argument anyways, but a steady stream of income from divvies even if it is less efficient is at least less worrisome and requires less work so it's not a bad choice for a retired boomer who just wants to lay back and chill

is there a universally acclaimed textbook for business fundamentals? what can i read and get a good grasp on in order to understand balance sheets and various metrics confidently and quickly?

>>53086927
Theyre retarded baggies grasping at straws. Dividens are a good play in clown market. Ideal strategy is to ride them while the market sucks ass (theyre usually pretty stable) then swapping to growths at the bottom.

>>53086989
This is also true, divvie stocks usually do better in bear markets than growth

>>53086960
This is the only argument I see against dividends, but I like to think when I'm retired and no longer bringing in an income, I won't be in the first bracket.

>>53085992
In that case you should just YOLO all your money
Either you get rich or get gibs

>>53085181
Jpow is giving equities a struggle with a snuggle

>>53086449
Ywnbaw

Are there some AI art related stocks?

Happy new Year, In russia 2023 right now, Make gains fuck people in theirs wholes, I'm drunk as hell, and WANNA MAKE MONEY IN THIS YEAR LETS GO BITCHES, happy new year