/biz/ - Business & Finance

WHOA BLACK BETTY

>mfw waiting for Jerome to tell me when he's raising rates again.

My new years resolution is to respect women even less than I currently do.

>he bought calls

I haven't made a trade all month

they didn't know about the jheqx collar unwinding...

>>53075225
Not possible for me.

another day when i lose money. cool. i should have never listened to buy and hold boomers. this is what i get for believing "time in the market beats timing the market!"

now i have to just sit and wait. i know i'll make money eventually but it's probably gonna take a few years and i hate this.

Which is better: to lose less than the index on a red day or gain more than the index on a green day?

>>53075242
what happens after the JPM collar ends?

My Lumber orders are ready

I should've bought 380ps like I wanted to, why do I do this to myself.

What’s the best options strategy on the SPY?

>>53075255
might be awhile

>>53075229
>>he bought calls
I figured I'd make a better decision after jacking off to Sara Jay, than making a decision with full nuts. That's why I bought the calls. It's Sara's fault!
>>53075235
/cashgang/?
>>53075260
I'm not keen on wearing collars, myself. I'm not a faggot.
You do you, though :)

Gookfu's new Vacuum Cleaner isn't going to be here until the fucking 9th. She's going to be over her flu by then. Fuck Bed Bath and Beyond, short these fuckers to the grave.

It’s gonna rally into the close

>>53075260
>>53075242
we'll see what the strikes are on the new collar
then we will move the next season, til it expires, so that it pins the upside or downside
it may be possible to see it right now, as the contracts may be so outsized by this time of day that you could easily distinguish it
but I'm lazy, and it's New Years Eve Eve, and I don't feel like looking through all the OI and OI changes, when someone will publish it all in a neat report over the weekend for me to read

>>53075275
filtered.

>>53075242
I made a new version

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH WITH AN H

>>53075271
can you afford assignment? if not bto/stc long puts

I bought into AQB. We're making fish great again.

>>53075302
YOURE MAKING THE FISH GAY

>>53075302
>AQB
>fish

anon.......................................

>>53075259
Think about it. Your portfolio is just a x.x% leverage of the index at that point. There is no price discovery of anything you picked, so your due diligence was worthless.

>>53075205
I only have 1000 dollars and can buy covered options. What do i buy?

>>53075314
that's called Beta

BUY GME CALLS!

>>53075330

>>53075287
What happened to her hair?

>REVERSE REPO MEANS NOTHING!!!
>hey guys wheres the volume though lol why is the market going down lol
High risk free rates > still overpriced equities. Banks will watch the market bleed out then swoop in when the FED cuts.

>>53075217
Pam Ballam

>>53075317
April 21 145 MRNA put

>when it just keeps dipping

>>53075330
man why you post this

tfw bought bitcoin at $100 and sold at $1000 and never touched it again

>>53075242
>Not knowing about the jelq collar

Another year of not blowing up my account, down about 14%

>great year

>>53075205
Good bake, good timing.

>>53075339
Listen to this anon

>>53075339
>REVERSE REPO MEANS NOTHING!!!
Yes, at the very least it has nothing to do with stock liquidity dumbass and volume is always low on the last trading week during holidays.

Anons any good resources on portfolio construction? Hopefully something more involved than boomer 60/40 bonds/stocks..

>>53075388
Look up the permanent portfolio.

who sold off banks

>>53075339
/GME/ has been watching RREPO since it started mooning in 2021.

>>53075411
Because they are retards.

Too late to short?

>>53075273
not really comparable at all, anon. idk why people keep trying to do this sort of comparison.

what's for dinner this friday night bros?

I told you about yields bro.

I warned you dog.

>>53075411
Must be a bunch of very smart guys over there huh

>>53075449
Definitely not chickenfried, after this weeks market.
Probably saltines and water.
>>53075455
>I warned you dog.
checked
I got hooked, bro. I didn't listen...

>>53075449
chicken parm calzone from the local house of pizza, with french fries (they make really good ones) and a $20 bottle of merlot and some dank weed.

gonna have myself a time, anon.

>>53075449
>>53075470
post body

>>53075388
>anime girl smug
>dot png
Man I just feel like it's some kind of blasphemy to label Ryoko as some "anime girl", even if it is from the reboot.

say there was a draft in the west some time next year for a war with say someone like russia or something
what tickers would be best to pick to profit from it?
again this is just a hypothetical situation since the threads pretty much dead anyways

>>53075350
you outperformed every single person that bought bitcoin after november 2017

>>53075449
I'm thinking of treating myself and going to either McDonald's or taco bell for some top tier goyslop. I'm also visiting a fired later who unfortunately had just been hospitalized for Crohn's so he cant drink beer or eat goyslop so I feel bad for him.

>>53075470
sounds p fucking good rn

Good afternoon.

I hate niggers and jews. That is all.

>>53075449
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4ujS1er1r0

Fried chicken and cold beer

Check out QTNT as a SHORT (do not buy this trash milkbreaths)
$0.41 a share right now, but being delisted tonight and zero'd out in a pre-pack bankruptcy (feb 15th effective date for the bk)

Penny stock cultists are pumping this crap, im gonna short it.

You won't listen. You'll ignore this post. I will remember it. And come back to you guys about this when It Happens.

Oh. You don't know what I mean when I say "It"?

Lol. QTNT. Shitco. Short

>>53075495
How many times do you think she was raped by Jews before the age of 10?

>>53075385
>at least 2.5 trillion and counting not in equities sitting on the sidelines
>not a liquidity falloff
Damn you're right. Those trillions of dollars were never in equities. Could hit 5 trillion it won't matter! SPX 5000 Q1.

>>53075503
The post that saved /smg/

Why is Dollar going down?

>>53075255
>Be an investor, not a trader

>>53075205
Having been severely depressed for several years really helped me to keep holding on to stocks when they crash and not to sell out of panic. There's an upside to everything.

How do I invest in Midjourney AI?

>>53075470
i just ate this white clam za from this wood fire joint, shit was fire with tons of clams and olive oil with some fresh basil, parsley and lemon.

I've caught a mild cold, should I make pizza and get drunk on cheap apple cider or make a tea and go to bed?

Today's the last day for tax loss harvesting btw, take your losses baggies and write them off

>>53075554
oh yeah and garlic, this shit was loaded with the roasted garlic.

>>53075559
Get drunk on cheap apple cider but also drink tea. do not make pizza, make some soup or stew. with veggies and whole meats

>>53075229
>last day to take losses
>market volume lower than yesterday
>new quarter on monday
If you are short then you are doing it wrong.

>>53075554
>>53075565

Just scored this gem from an hole in the wall local mom and pop za joint pretty hecking epic

VIX is moving this time

>>53075573
will do, thanks

>>53075539
The rate hike squeeze ended. When long duration bond yields rise now, it's because expectations of longterm inflation are setting in.
Rate manipulation alone cannot make the dollar strong.

There's also been a realization that Euro will not collapse this winter, although personally I think Eurocuck buyers that see the rebound as anything more than a quick trade are making a mistake.

>>53075564
I don't even earn enough to have to pay capital gains tax

(1.17%) today
guys.. this is a bad omen

>>53075578
lol wednesday was for settlement good luck bull bro

I shorted the bottom..

>>53075599

Nobody could have seen this coming, absolutely nobody…

>>53075590
please tell me what kind of soup or stew you will be making.

I want to go long UPRO, what do I get? May? June?

Do anons know you’re bascially playing with algos this entire week? All the human beans are away and the books have already been closed for the year.

Seeing as most of us here believe 2023/4 is gonna be a giant shitshow, I'm thinking of shorting SBUX and other high-tier/premium goyslop chains.
SBUX has been on a rip and if roasties and normies start getting their discretionary income raped because of a recession next year, it's not going to go well for them.
Not really sure of other premium goyslop chains, that's why I mentioned Starbucks. There may be others. Don't want to target luxury chains because richcucks will still be around. Just think the middle class is gonna get fucked.

>>53075617
>the bottom

Neh bro, not even close. How does SPY 50% lower sound to you?

Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks.

>>53075629
Yes, it's been a week of barcoding faggotry.

>>53075559
Alcohol is literally a cure all.

>>53075633
I don't like it as much as SPY 50% higher, so we'll do higher instead.

>>53075636
Nice boots.

>>53075621
line must go up, this is the most important thing in the world and the brightest minds on the planet are working on line go up

>>53075625
I've never really made soup, I'll take whatever I can find.

>>53075658
Thanks, anon. Footwear makes an outfit.

>>53075612
>nothing ever happens
What's happening is that volume is higher on green days than red days. I realize this is the permabear "it's going down because it's been going down all month, so it must go down next month when we change quarters/years too!" thread, but the reality is there's simply nothing indicating this is anything more than a local bottom and loss harvesting.

>>53075630
>Seeing as most of us here believe 2023/4 is gonna be a giant shitshow
Even if it is there is no way the YTD is worse than 2022

>>53074164
>they have $128 million in cash
>their market cap is now $57M
Problem with these analytical approach is always the same, none of these companies EVER disband and give their cash value to the shareholder. It's always the same those at the top of these kinds of companies want power. Even they owned a ton of shares they don't care, they want power and self perceived prestige over others. Seriously give any anon in this general a position as CEO for 10 years. How many wouldn't retire after all that cash? This isn't about money to those people. I have no interest in their self perceived power and prestige when anyone off the street can do it. I want freedom from the wage cage and to never have to go back to it.

Which is better:
3 month or 6 month T-Bills @ 4.4-4.65 interest rate
Money market @ 3.5 interest rate

If I keep money in MM, I have a better opportunity to jump on something that may come up in 3-6 months.

>make a post about possible alpha
>/Smg/ troons would rather talk about soup and shoes

>>53075691
>raising interest rates into a global stagflationary recession with 100000 trillion in global debt

bruh

>>53075704
Nobody replied to your speculation because it is retarded and wrong.

>>53075653
Zero chance of meaningfully higher in the next six to ten months.

If SPY finishes 2023 even close to 380 it would be a miracle. We are going, dramatically, shockingly lower. VIX is still under 30. PEs are still high. Layoffs haven’t even really kicked off. Inflation is still 3x+ the FEDs target. The risk is to the downside; obviously.

If we bounce off 350 in any meaningful way consider it a massive selling opportunity. Every rally remains a sale for the foreseeable future.

LMAO he's never fucking made soup. Imagine never making SOUP.

>>53075700
You can sell t-bills and there's essentially zero duration risk.

>>53075718
it's officially over for chudco

>>53075704
/smg/ has been burned by you the CRBPajeet too many times to bite the hook again
>fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again

>>53075691
I actually agree even though it may seem counterintuitive.
The first half is gonna be everything burning down because of the lagged effect of over tightening/rape hikes.
The 2nd half will involve a pivot so we'll be rich on paper at least. The economy itself may be long gone by then so idk.

>>53075687
keep ignoring the dot plot by all means

>>53075712
Kill keynesianism, it's that simple

>>53075621
use log scale for large time periods or really just always would be fine too

>>53075621
>people will look at this chart and still spout the retarded past performance argument

On an unrelated note I'm gonna load up on calls and go long.

>>53075722
Oh well, what's another three years. I guess that means it'll recover in time for my 40th birthday.

>2022 worst year in the market since 2008
>America voted for this in 2020 and 2022
This ride will never end, guys.

>>53075691
You think a bad year has never been followed by a worse year before?
Go check the 70s charts again.

>>53075738
Not me, idk who that even is

>>53075731
I make it all the time,i just don't need to be a estrogen-charged troon and tell people about it

>>53075772
>allowing women and minorities to vote

>>53075700
Tbill etf, better yield than MM, nearly as liquid

>>53075753
>use log scale
Why?

>>53075579
what the fuck is this shit? this za looks like some fucking stoner from the reddit put a buncha goyslop ontop of a fucking store bought pre-baked boboli crust. is that even tomato sauce? it could be fucking ketchup for all i know.

>>53075782
oh sorry, thought you were
>>53075517
he too writes this way
>make a post about possible alpha

>>53075718
Speculation is like asking a question, the act itself can't be wrong you fucking idiot

>>53075593
I was wondering because as an eurocuck i wanted to buy some more dollars but the euro rally stopped me, i think it's the china reopening copium driving that because inflation for sure isn't going down anytime soon.

Another year and still not rich. Maybe I should give up on stocks. I've been semi obsessed with them for over 2.5 years now. The longer I go like this, the more it looks like I've wasted my time on stocks whether it was worrying about my positions or spending hours researching stocks or doing other stock stuff. Crypto seems very high risk so unlikely I'll even touch it. That only leaves me with one other potential avenue of getting rich and it's a gamble of whether I succeed or fail. It's really starting to feel like I may be stuck waging into my 60s

>>53075796
It makes the line look like it has gone up less.

>>53075704
No one here cares to speculate about "possible" alpha on a 2 year timeframe.
We'd rather get rich swinging beta in this eternal crab market, extracting alpha from the theta.

When you start thinking in years, anything could fucking happen. So many people have lost their ass betting on the next recession/depression forever. The big one is coming any day now, I can feel it in my bones..

I don't know what movie to watch tonight. I need something to make me forget about this awful year.

>>53075687
>What's happening is that volume is higher on green days than red days
Hmmmmmmmmm

>>53075813
it's been a tough couple of years

>>53075806
>post about possible alpha
Kek, I was in shitcoin telegram for too long, still have some bad habits that I picked up from jeets/jews
Idk what else to call it
Possible opportunity ig

>>53075779
I guess it's possible but the market is so used to hikes I doubt it will be worse. Even a recession will offset the gains made imo, say +15% YTD and a 25% crash later = -10% YTD

>>53075825
I recommend Lesbian Babysitters 9.

>>53075809
Nice cop out, retard.

>>53075813
35%schd 35%jepi 25%voo 4%gush 1%sqqq drip on

>>53075825
Watch Amsterdam, one of the worst movies I've seen in years.

>>53075691
The last recession we were down like 40-50%. Hell in a few weeks of Covid we hit those levels in 2020 briefly. Now we’re less than halfway there with more guaranteed bad news coming in 2023, (more rate hikes across the world, more global conflicts, inflation continuing to come down slowly and later revamping a year from now thanks to the recent inflated spending bill, reduced earnings for most companies from consumers becoming unemployed and tightening their wallets, split US government getting nothing done, etc.).

>>53075330
I think I will short GME.

>there's no way the market can go down TWO years in a row
Is this what QE infinity does to the market?

>>53075806
>>make a post about possible alpha
Bro me telling everyone to short QTNT, a literal bankrupcty shitco, is just for shits and giggles.

in fact, no one should ever use /smg/ for actual alpha. just for screaming and shitposting and writing out theses
>>53075738
Why Won't You Listen To The ShitCos I Want To Short

ORMP is a hilarious pharma shitco to short too

>>53075796
Investing is not linear or rather arithmetic particularly for long time periods
Using an arithmetic scale makes it look like the percentage gains of the past aren't as significant as the percentage gains of the present
Every doomer calling for a giant crash will never use log scale because they are trying to manipulate you or are dumb or both
Don't get me wrong though, shit is still gonna go down until JPow says otherwise

>>53075255
>i should have never listened to buy and hold boomers
I purposefully bought and held some stocks to teach myself a lesson on that meme. So far it has proven I am better off playing the market like I did before, buy a ton of shares/options cause I'm super sure a stock will pump or dump and second panic selling. At least then it resulted in me being profitable. None of those were holds for longer than a year so it doesn't count as the buy and hold stock meme. What better way to test this meme by doing it on a stock that either gains a ton or loses a ton, SOXL. The good part is I only bought 100 shares rather than go all in, I'd be devastated if I went all in.

>>53075825
In Bruges is good.
There's a Netflix show called Alice in Borderland. Season 1 is pretty good.
Chainsaw Man is good (if you like anime)
Band of Brothers is good, and will likely keep you busy for a while.
>>53075882
Very doubtful. Hasn't it only ever happened once?

>>53075798
>he doesn't know

>>53075516

>>53075882
Exactly. But that's also the reason it won't go down in nominal terms forever, the Fed is going to end up printing when everything starts burning.
Even then it won't really solve the problem. Shits fucked and central banking is gay.

>>53075474
healthier than yours. this is my cheat day. ever heard of a concept2 rowing machine?

>>53075825
Knives Out Glass Onion was pretty good actually. Easy to watch mystery movie that actually does well with dropping hints and clues through dialogue and subliminal camera shots

>>53075897
Baggot will never understand what it's like to be a superior hamchad, don't waste your time.

>>53075908
Wall Street is pricing in 7% earnings growth for next year.

If you get an actual recession and negative earning growth the S&P will go to 2000 min and that is not a joke. In a recession market valuations are like 10 p/e near lows and that's assuming a "normal" recession. So if you think this is a buying opp you are basically betting on pretty substantial economic growth

>>53075811
Are you trying to buy treasuries? or stocks?
If stocks, I wouldn't worry so much about exchange rate. Any DXY pump is typically matched by a simultaneous market crash. They tend to neutralize because a lot of the meta caps are essentially global businesses.
If you just wanna be lazy and sit in dollars, I think 1.10 is the level to watch. At least camp in something with yield though. This is the first time in a decade you can get paid to wait - although arguably its really just an inflationary penalty if you don't take that small payout. There is no true yield.

>>53075903
>>53075516
>>53075449
if you know, you know

>>53075516
I love God and Jesus but holy fucking shit do I hate country music.

>>53075922

The more I see Niko the more I start to realize how much of an underrated genius he is. A man that is way too ahead of his time.

>>53075931
It's alright bro doesn't say in the Bible you have to love country music.

>>53075862
Let's be honest though, the market has consistently undermined FUD and news that would in any other time lead to hard crashes. If it weren't for retard rallies we'd be at -35% YTD easily.
If nothing shits the bed too hard I can easily see a year better than 2022 albeit still in the negatives

>>53075910
>concept2 rowing machine
The Goodlife gym I go to has these. They're based as fuck to use as a warmup/cooldown on back days.
You own one, or just like using them?
>>53075930
>if you know, you know

>>53075898
>Very doubtful. Hasn't it only ever happened once?
It also happened in the 1930s. I forget what was going on then but it must've been bad.

40s too.. and 2000.

I'm 35 years old. 36 in Jan. KHHV. 90K to my name. I have no more New Year's Resolutions. I failed at life. If I had 500K at least I could stop waging. If I had 1MM, I'd get surgery to looksmax. But nothing can fix autism.

Why try at this point? Maybe there's happiness in giving up.

>>53075951
That avatar doesn't belong to you

>>53075932
He was always based, got rich off of just eating goyslop on camera.

>>53075922
>hamchad
are you one of those people that when people see you walking down the street they go, "G_d damn that's a big fat ass!"

>>53075961

>>53075888
Why short small shitcos when there is a long list of massive ones like CHWY or SPOT or RBLX?

>>53075951
own one. full body low impact workout while sitting down, both cardio and muscle training, it's basically perfect.

>>53075958
>KHHV
Ouch that's rough. You aren't a failure though, having 90k means you could literally fly to SEA and get yourself a cutie bug woman. Baggot literally bought his gookfu off a shipping crate. There are ways out of this anon. Don't give up.

EOD scam pump, or just trending til close?

>>53075961
>That avatar doesn't belong to you
Looks like I posted it, chief. Makes it rightfully mine.
>>53075957
Nothing has changed since those times.

>>53075990

>>53075980
Because small shitcos are likely to go to zero?

>>53075927
I don't think you understood what I was saying or I wasn't clear
I'm saying we'll get hell in H1 and then maybe some kind of recovery in H1 once the printer comes back on, even though by that point, commodities will cost 100x what they cost now (precisely because of the printing)

Of course, there's always the possibility that Powell knows he can't turn on the printer without causing inflation all over again and then we'll end up in some insane hyper-depression
Idk what will happen, this is the kind of shit where preppers will be telling everyone "we told you so"

>>53075969
People fear me because of my mass baggot

>>53075969
Hamchads are basically ppl like Tony Soprano who don't care about their looks. Except no one on here has any social proof in comparison.

>>53076011
Nothing will happen like always

>>53075980
I am shorting large cap shitcos too. I am shorting SHOP, DKNG, HOOD, etc.

Dude, can you imagine that HOOD has a fucking market cap of 5 billion still.

Lol. Lmao.
>>53076010
His point is valid, small cap shitcos have liquidity issues and are harder to short.

It's best to short both large caps and small cap shitcos

>>53076011
That's a fair point I think we may have reached the logical end of QE though with possible systematic embedded inflation

>>53076031
How bout Carvana and Silvergate and coinbase?

Btw
FUCK CARVANA

>>53076031
It really boggles the mind how retardedly overvalued some companies are still.

>>53075986
I only row twice a week (back days), but I agree. Awesome pieces of equipment. Basically essential, next to a rack.
>>53076023
>Tony Soprano
Someone told me to watch this show, and it was a waste of my time.
>>53076038
QE will always be a tool that the federal banks use, from now on. It'll just be turned on/off at their will

>>53076046
20 years of QE is a hell of a drug

>>53076031
>HOOD
why the fuck can't this company make a profit

what is so wrong with their business model compared to any other stock broker

>>53076044
I am actively shorting COIN, and have shorted CVNA (plainly shorting stock) since it was $300. I recognize you as FUCK CARVANA anon. I agree, the Garcias need jail time. The CapEx fraud with drivetime across the street from CVNA offices in Arizona is insane

SI seems like a good short


Thank you for bringing up COIN actually....that is a MEGA shitco. Short COIN on leverage. So many convert bonds underwater rn

>>53076044
Why would you short COIN at this point? Cathie is committed buying the dip forever. It's also still a good on ramp for cyrpto, and they have had organic growth unlike FTX.

>>53076059
>doesn't like the sopranos
I regret to inform you that you have shit taste. Sorry you had to find out this way

>>53075980
>chewy
>shitco
Overvalued yeah, but Chewy is probably going to be one of the best growth stocks in the next few years (if they're not bought out). They've eaten so much of B&M stores market cap. I'm early awaiting them to dip into the $20s so I can slurp.

>>53075931
uhh, keep this anon away from Vegas, ok. Don't get too comped.

>>53075698
>none of these companies EVER disband and give their cash value to the shareholder.
Disbanding is unlikely, but they do occasionally get bought up.

We're about to enter a golden age for buyouts with all the spac scams that've come out and raised fuckloads from of nothing in 2021, only to crash back down to nothing.

>>53075988
>Baggot literally bought his gookfu off a shipping crate.
Kek that's never a good idea if you have assets like real estate because the whore will just come over and divorce rape you on easy mode
You could always put them into a trust or whatever I guess, and put your money into offshores
I'd never trust a gook as a wife
Girlfriend, fine, especially if she's already resident but those ones are already on the carousel or married
The other thing to do is just buy a cheapass little home in some shithole, wife her there in an unofficial ceremony, and then pump her and then fly back home and say you have to look after your parent/sibling and let her take care of the kids and talk to them over skype
(Why yes I was divorce-raped how could you tell)

>>53076046
Lots of money - nowhere to put it - ppl debtmaxing using their stocks as collateral and praying for a recovery, holding on for dear life.

>>53076011
we hike rates for awhile
market goes down, slowly, crabbily
big woop
well unless you invested in a certain thematic semiconductor ETF, then you will never make it
not the end of the world, retard

>>53076068
Are you insane? Do you not know about all the convertible bonds COIN has to facilitate? SHORT COIN BHENCHODE BASTARDS

>>53076046
Japanification of the world economy, nothing to worry about

>>53076068
isn't COIN just essentially a leveraged play on Bitcoin going up?

>>53076061
Because their customer base is drying up. Think of all the degenerate gamblers who were using Robinhood to daytrade GME and AMC and other high beta growth shitcos and imagine how wiped out they are right now

Those were ALL Robinhood customers

>>53076090
How many?

I have 1000 USD to throw in the wind before the stock market closes in an hour. throwing dices between MSFT, AMD and NVDA or forsake common sense and buy the TSLA dip?

>>53076090
Go on…
I don’t actually know how to find and evaluate debt and I’d like to learn before the distressed debt opportunity next year that gundlach spoke of.

>>53075928
I wanted to grab short term bonds, 1/2 years max.

>>53076109
Didn't HOOD make all of their cash selling order flow? Basically the survival of the company is getting every normie to trade, pretty tough when all the meme growth names are down 99% kek

>>53076038
I agree I just think at this point it will have extremely negative consequences (not that it hasn't already) and people won't be able to just ignore how their lives are being ruined by inflation like they have been.
I mean shits looking very very bad for the lower middle class as it is right now, energy costs aren't going to improve the more the Fed prints, it's a real catch 22, so yes I think we're heading into some unpredictable times and hopefully the end of the 110 year long central banking experiment.

>>53075988
to be fair, that guy got laid and you're still a virgin, so who's winning ultimately?

>>53076074
>Overvalued
mate they have only this year started making a meager profit. "Overvalued" does not cut it, this shit is ridiculously overpriced relative to earnings. IBKR shows their P/E as -741.57. That's right, NEGATIVE 741.57. There's gotta be some incredible growth coming up to make that $16B valuation justifiable

>>53076088
N

>>53076084
Honestly baggot's gookfu deserves at least half of his shit once he inevitably marries her and she inevitably divorces him. Let this sink in. She literally escaped a brutal dictatorship I'm north Korea, only to end up living with a tripfag from /smg/. Its no wonder she is clawing to try to get back to north Korea.

>>53076067
I was looking at SI puts today, they're pretty cheap considering how horrible the company is

>>53076112
381 0dte spy calls or 378 spy 0dte puts. Go for broke, anon.

>>53076100
Yes and that's why I'm long it. Only a tard would short it when btc has shown this much resilience.

>>53075625
>beef with flour and peppered, browned, removed
>onions, celery, garlic, mushrooms
>red wine deglaze
>chopped herbs of your choice
>add beef back, simmer low for an hour
>add carrots, radishes, and potatos for thirty minutes
>last 15 minutes add some cabbage
Boil the meat on minimum, and use fatty chunks they will reduce a lot if you cut them bite sized to start

>>53076132
Not a virgin, but I can understand why you'd think I was. I mean, look where we are after all.

>>53076112
Tech is dead. It's in perma-crab mode for new few years. Buy oil or natgas. Buy GUSH, BOIL or OIH specifically. Keep buying it for next couple of months while it consolidates. By the summer, it's going to explode.

>>53076143
>north
lucky bastard
probably the one place I'd wife some gook up from on principle

the bottom is not in until uber and the rest go bankrupt.

>>53076182
when having hapa sons with a gook isn't effiminate enough, have hapa sons with a permanently malnourished gook instead!

>>53076132
I'm unironically going to pack things up and leave the states in June / July. I've been planning it for a while. The only thing I don't like is the US is 1 of only 2 countries in the world that taxes its citizens no matter where they live. But I've already fixed that to an extent, by naturalizing myself to an income-tax free state. Hint: AK, TX, NV, SD, FL. The trick is to create a home-base there, while living outside of the US.

>>53075485
>since the threads pretty much dead anyways
buy signal

>>53076117
>>53076110
COIN has dilute shareholders (through raising equity) in order to raise cash to pay off their stupid multi billion convertible bonds that are super deep underwater.

https://voca.ro/1hSMVsVajB4f

^ here is me trying to realllyyyy simply explain what a convertible bond is. I explained about 75% of it but stopped since i dont wanna ramble

>>53075485
>draft
there is no reason for america ot have a draft
unless its fucking china and we are doing somethign insane like a land invasion, it'll just be the navy and airforce dunking on them

>>53076200
my god fuck i didn't even explain the important part involving COIN and how they are still on the hook to pay out bond payments to their bond holders since the "convertible" part of their bond is the equity which is wayyyy below the "strike" that bond issuers have for COIN's debt tranche

Convertible bond is like a combo of call option and debt tranche

>>53076147
Why do you think realized volatility will outsize implied volatility for SI? Do you think that IV is cheap on SI?

>>53076173
I was in SU for too long this past year to buy in on oil or similar again although I was about to buy BP or SHELL before that

If you incorporate and transfer all of your assets to the corporation before getting married, can you still get divorce raped?

>>53076125
Yeah I think so, most of HOOD's money was because of degenerate retards gambling on stocks (like /smg/) so most of those guys got wiped out and HOOD now has no customers because line dont keep going up

>>53076244
SU will probably go to $60 USD

>>53076246
Your ownership in the corp is up for debate probably. A trust would be better protection I think.

Bears in this house
There's some Bobos in this house
There's some Bobos in this house
I said certified crash, seven days a week
Wet ass market make that pullout game weak, woo! (Ah)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, you fucking with some crashing ass markets
Bring a bucket and a mop for these mumu tears
Give me everything you got for this weak ass market
Beat it up, nigga, catch a charge
Extra large, and extra hard
Put this falling candle right in yo chart
Swipe your nose like a credit card
Hop on top, watch it drop
I do a kegel while it's going down
This market is crashing, come take a dive
Let's role-play, I wear a disguise
I want you to park that big red Mack truck right in this market
Make those bulls cream and scream
Out in public, make a scene
I don't buy, I don't go long
But let me tell you, I got these gains(ayy, ayy)
Gobble this market up, swallow it, drip down it down to red
Quick, jump out and sell out

There's some Bobos in this house
There's some Bobos in this house
There's some Bobos in this house
There's some Bobos in this house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsm4poTWjMs

>>53076136
...anon you can't look at p/e for growth stocks kek. That's what they'll all look like. Maybe IBKR bugged out because Chewy did post a profitable quarter at some point.

>>53076147
>>53076241
I’m just shorting SI outright, I read puts are expensive and the risk/return on credit call spreads doesn’t look great.

Hopefully it bounces big and we get another chance to short.

>>53076266
dakota trust

I’ve been saying this for a while but Brian Sullivan needs his own prime slot show on CNBC, the 5am slot is horrible... Maybe they’ve got him in the bullpen for when Tyler Mattson retires from power lunch he’s pretty entertaining and has a good duo with Kelly Evans

>>53076253
That and having predatory order routing practices (see that massive SEC fine this year) and people bailing due to FTX exposure. It's a good short. An obvious one, but it all makes sense.

Rolled my novavax short calls for a nifty $1.5k profit

>>53076278
CNBC is noise and propaganda

Rare oil pump going on this afternoon.

ALL I AM ALL I KNOW
IS HANGING BY THE THINNEST THREAD
IF YOU LEAVE IF YOU GO
I MIGHT AS WELL BE GONE BE DEAD

https://youtu.be/MUvmaVgslqA

>>53076276
...is that a type of trust?

>>53076265
the last time I checked it was priced at the exact amount when I sold in April. I was one of them who repeated to themselves that SU will go above 60 CAD is the barrel of raw oil reaches a price X USD

>>53076241
How do you know what the strike is? Can these bonds be rolled at the bond holders expense or something of the like?

380 smack down or bounce. Place your bets!

>>53076298
It’s more entertaining than Bloomberg which is dry and dull as fuck, and FBN is just like watching Fox News with a constant ticker... Yeah I know CNBC shills for the left and ESG bullshit but it’s still my favorite option of the 3

>>53076275
How the fuck have you managed to find a borrow on SI stock? SI options are not super expensive though...IV has cooled off

>>53076325
Wyoming lets you make 1000 year trusts.

>>53076275
I wrote LEAP calls on SI last month, ez money

>>53076340
Schwab. Doesn’t even have a borrow cost. Meanwhile Carvana is 8% and was recently double digits.

Just bought 10 FUTU call contracts expiry Jan 6.

Easy money baby!

>>53076273

>>53076356
Thanks for the tip, I'm going to write some more for you buddy

>cryptoniggers: bankrupt and living out of their car
>/smg/: consistent gains

Slow and steady wins the race.

>>53076335
Use this website to look at bond data for le stocks. Had convert bond strikes and everything. https://finra-markets.morningstar.com/BondCenter/Default.jsp

>Can these bonds be rolled at the bond holders expense or something of the like?

I'm not sure, it would totally depend on the bond covenants. Sounds like something bond holders would do to issuers

>>53076375
Huh?

>>53076345
Nice, i've been told to look at a spendthrift trust for myself. Apparently you can have your business pay your salary into it & store assets while only paying out whatever you set.

How do scamwicks occur?

>loss about 70% of my initial investment
>if i somehow make it this year i'll be taxed up the ass
they don't want us to win

>>53076353
Loool on TD Ameritrade CVNA has zero borrow cost and SI is not even available to borrow. Funny

>>53076387
You're not very good at this are you

OOOOOOOOOOOOOooooOOOOOOOO POWER HOUR

What's weird about Robinhood is they have a great UI, good mobile app, very competitive cash sweep rate, basically did all the small things right.

Then on the other hand they're very limited on equity options, will auto sell options contracts on your behalf (lol), can't short or sell naked, etc. Unironically if they get bought out and have the latter things added they could be the best broker on the market.

>>53075449
idk some combination of wings/pizza/vodka prob

>>53076317
Juicy. If I was sophisticated and fast and non lazy I would play the lag in oil and gas company prices following oil

>>53075205

Ginger or potato?

>>53076417
Every broker auto sells unexercisable options at expiry.

>>53075922
wow he's literally me

>>53076434
And they charge extra for it

>>53076417
Nah, it's more complex than that. Sorry. HOOD is a big giant short.

Let me just say that developing a brokerage platform software, maintaining it, and keeping order flow infrastructure altogether is a VERY tough task.

t. back end engineer homie works for one of HOOD's competitors

Life is pain.

>>53076434
Robinhood auto sells 0dte at 3:00, not expiry

I am purchasing January Apple puts. The new iphone is shitty and doesn’t even have 5G. Their products are overpriced luxury status symbols that people aren’t going to be able to afford going into the new year amid runaway inflation and stagnant wages. Apple isn’t even really much for a “growth” stock. It has done fuck all in terms of innovation the past few years. It is way overvalued.

DO and BORR trade places intraday, weird

Scam pump?

>>53076446
anon you had enough contracts to scale out

>>53076450
Damn that is criminal. Fidelity will sometimes sell at 3:30. 5 minutes till close seems reasonable. Maybe it is due to liquidity?

>>53076469
Fidelity did it to me once at like 2:55, and charged like 3X the usual commission

>>53076445
In no way making a bull case, just pointing out how HOOD for some reason chose to put 20 herbs and spices on a plate of shit.

>>53076452
>Their products are overpriced luxury status symbols that people aren’t going to be able to afford going into the new year amid runaway inflation and stagnant wages.
Hello 2011. Apple has proven that their products are a necessity rather than a luxury. Millennials, Boomers, Zoomers cannot live without their stupid fucking phones and that is the norm.

>>53076461
I was expecting a smack down at 380 or crab at 380.

>>53076481
Think about the kind of clientele HOOD has versus IBKR. Avg account size for HOOD is literally miniscule, while IBKR guys are trading pretty big money

IBKR = low volume high account NW clientele
HOOD = high volume low account NW clientele who all got wiped out by ShitCo's and gamma squeezes unwinding

>>53076431
There's just something unappealing about forcing a day trade on Dec 30th, knowing I'll immediately owe taxes.

>>53076452
They are tackling affordability via financing. Becoming a finance company is every company's end game. The bean babies NEED the new iPhone so the idea of leasing the phone for $25/month and then getting the newest one appeals to those dummies. I hate AAPL but they seem impossible to touch.

I fucking love the FUCK CARVANA poster kek always gets me

>>53076402
Keep hating loser.
I’ll let you hold my bags for me next week. Fucking bitch.

>>53076542
I actually was that poster over the summer, then I learned my lesson. Glad to see someone else picked up where I left off

>>53076492
happens to all of us gg for the try

>>53075927
7% earnings growth during ~7% inflation doesn’t seem ridiculous on the face of it.
But now there’s less stimulus money and loans are more expensive. Ok.

>>53076524
Also, so many companies are using ipads/iphones in their workflow it's insane. It's a business flex too, "I bought all my daycare workers an ipad for their room so they can use it to teach better!, look how well my business is doing!"

>>53076486
Phones are a necessity, but there are many cheaper options that offer equivalent performance besides Apple. The mid priced Samsung phones are cheaper than the cheapest iphone and offer similar performance. Apple also made many downright stupid design choices lately. I owned an iphone 5s in the past and loved it, then I went through a period of android phones until I got an iphone 11. It’s complete shit. I hate how the changed the UI and removed the aux jack. Apple is also not only a phone company, they make laptops. These laptops are also extremely overpriced and are shit value because their specs are weak compared to competitors and they’re harder to repair by design. If we are entering a recession (or in one already and going deeper) then most consumers will avoid apple products unless apple overhauls their product line to be more affordable and offer something other electronic manufacturers do not.

>>53076000
>AMD
>>53076112
>buy the TSLA dip?
No.

>>53076379
I liked this show
>consistent gains
Hahahahaha

>>53076395
Damn. I don’t want to cover and realize the gains, was hoping to hold for a year to get better tax treatment. I’m not even sure if that works for shorts.

>>53076559
Nonsense

throw dat boi pussy
lemme see ya pop it
smack smack smack smack smack smack

all in JNUG and SILX, see you on the other side frens

Damn that thread went fast

I think I'm gonna long into new years week from mega leverage bearish

>>53076575
Yeah, now go back in a few months and ask those companies how they like the planned obsolescence apple is famous for. I don’t know where you work, but at my job half the people still have 10+ year old laptops with windows 7 installed. Businesses are greedy, they don’t want to buy the new product every year. They prefer to repair or upgrade existing equipment wherever possible. Apple also likes to trap users in their own proprietary software ecosystems, which nobody likes or wants to pay for.

>>53076602
finna say no on dat

>>53076637
I think the advantage of apple for a business is that's it's more idiot proof when locked down

>>53076637
I hope tech companies adopt that frugality. Buying everyone a 4000 dollar laptop every 5 years does not seem like a good use of capital. Consumers have not caught onto the whole planned obsolescence thing yet (see rental post from earlier).

>>53076653
why do applecucks always say this?

BUY CSCO CALLS

Retard pump

>>53076637
I mean, I very begrudgingly bought them. Owner was adamant they needed these so we didn't "look shady" and to "appear trendy and attract customers". Any discussion about buying another option was immediately shut down. Not my monkeys, I just saved all the emails for when it's time to upgrade and he's asking me why we need to, we just bought them.

Shorted the bottom, now im down 80%

>>53075830
This isn't even a daily chart, this is a cope chart.

I'm buying call spreads

My puts are being heemed

>>53076699
>>53076699
>>53076699

>>53076561
make it stop bro, my phantom gains!

>>53076701
>>53076710
buy low sell high

>>53076729
there's always next year

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

woah

>>53076200
blows my mind how $COIN doesn't make money hand over fist

>>53075988
Going to SEA and getting some jungle monkey is failure though, sexpats are the worst people

>>53076580
Normies don't buy apple for their quality, it's a status symbol

what a FINISHHHH OOOOOOOOOOH

>>53075388
>>53075478
aye seconded, you beat me to it