/biz/ - Business & Finance

>futures

Peer to peer lending

Natgas pls...

>we will never return to the simple days of kantai collection gachashit fanart of 7 years ago
>it will always be holoshit, genshit or AI shit
2015..... home....

Won't let me access the exhentai link. :(

>>53065410
What is this? Crowd sourced tranche debt issuing?

>futures

I bought 1500 shares of SKYT yesterday and im up 500 dollars. Are we back? I got 60k in cash just waiting. 260 is the bottom ???

>based bean futures extend gains on argentina drought fears

are my 382 spy puts gonna be okay?

>>53065410
You realize monetary conditions are tightening right?

>>53065418
Look and laugh at this amateur!! I bet he doesn't even get secret presents trading ROOKIE!

WHOA BLACK BETTY

>>53065452
That’s actually good for lenders.
That said, yields are that high on those picks for a reason. 8-10% returns are what he should aim for if he’s lucky.

>>53065423
You can buy fractional shares of loans to be paid back with interest. Personally I do the minimum $25 for each loan to hedge against the defaulters. Beats the current market but ties up your money for the length of the loan. You will receive monthly payments made up of principle and interest

why didn't you invest in Tesla anon? you realize it will never be below 120 ever again right.. didn't you see that post with anon capitulating.. that was your sign

>>53065484
I know I won’t get those yields. Those yields represent if the borrower paid back the minimum each month. Most people put extra towards principle

>>53065491
>loaning an E rated guy with a 500 credit score

>>53065464
I dont understand black betty posting and at this point im afraid to ask

>>53065446
no

>>53065517
Minimum credit score is 640. You can see a credit history tied to each loan

>>53065410
Now do they actually pay back or no? Not about to toss 10k in thinking Ill get a 20% return in a year or less only to have to send it to collections
>inb4 makes them anonymous
AAAAA MY MONEY IS GONE!!!

>>53065455

AMZN baggies desperately trying to keep share price above $80 kek

>>53065491
Name of site?

>>53065545
I would never risk 10k on a single loan. I’d invest $25 into 400 loans expecting some to default.

>>53065558
Sorry I don’t want to be banned for advertising. Peer to peer lending is what you need to look into

>>53065549
Kek guess Ive been gone long. I remember when it kept refusing to stay under $120 for too long. That or it was another stock

>>53065570
Thanks anon.

Literally why the fuck is nat gas dumping goddamn it

Was today the start of the legendary Golden Bull Run?

>futures


NO NO NO NO NO WHY WHY WHYI DIDNT SELLLL ?!?!? THE GREED IS KILLINGMEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

post your face when cashgang for months

>>53065484
How? Wont more borrows default on their agreements?

>futures

>nasdaq will end the year below 11k
too bad its not under 10k

Don't ever forget.

>>53065623
Kek baggie , cuz it's going to be really warm soon, and draws from US supply were higher than expected. As a brief summary. Also, lower than expected heating bills.

is it time to lose money on AQB again?

>>53065442
Argentina has been doing quite well in spite of being Argentina.

>>53065721
I'm the rare pepe that your mother carelessly throws in the trash when she cleans your room after you head off to college

>>53065386
why do you people keep posting pornography on stock market general? if you think with your dick you will never make it.

>futures

30 year mortgage rates rose up to 6.42% fixed

Shits gonna be whack in 2023

>>53065526
Have no fear. Jerome is going to put this market right where he wants it.

pee pee & poo is already down 0.15%
Your rally is already getting weaker mumu.

>>53065755
I fucking knew it would happen, that giga pump today was sus with the shitty jobs report

>>53065751

>anime
>female in bikini
>pornography

are you sure you aren't stretching the definition of porn?

>>53065577
I'm just waiting for AMZN to dump down to $70 or lower. That will be the time to slurp unless the p/e ratio is still too high.

>>53065649
>40k collecting cash sweep interest
>throw the little bit i get each month into tobacco companies
it's an abstract kind of feel

idk whats going to happen but the 1hr spy looks like something big in either direction

Only 8 hours left and i can sell my positions

>>53065408
/a/ told me it was going to be shit but I am unironically enjoy it.

Never listen to /a/

>>53065751
My trades under post nut clarity are better than my ones without it. Why do you think pro traders snort so much blow and bang so many hookers?

>>53065784
two hundred years ago when grown men could buy teenage sex slaves and marry 12 year olds, showing an ankle was considered pornographic

Market lookin bullish. Coupon code expiring soon. I like Elon, he's a genius, their stock is worth $500.

>>53065849
>Why do you think pro traders snort so much blow and bang so many hookers?

has little to do with trading or any particular profession. people abuse drugs because they are drug abusers - or they have developed full blown drug addiction.

there is no great mystery to solve here, and there is nothing particularly unique about stock brokers imo.

>>53065858
also instead of teenagers learning erotic tiktok dances at age 12 they spent their time learning how to labour

>>53065775
The pump today was just a relief rally. Probably off a resistance or something dumb. They wont hold over the weekend especially last trading day of 2022. Theyll all run for the hills.

>>53065849
Real life doesn't work like your little Hollywood movies you brainwashed mongoloid

>>53065847
/a/ loves CSM though. Anime is a good investment opportunity too. Nearly everyone under 35 likes it in some capacity.

>>53065898
indeed, it was a better time. we have lost our way

Is Ford a buy?

>>53065912
eh, there are some buck broken anons over there that can't stop talking about how much they hate it

Buy GOLD.
t. Insider

>>53065847
Kobeni is cute

>BABA fucking 233 P/E now
Jesus is the CCP just mandating buying it now or what

>>53065635
Don’t make me tap the sign

Ah FUCK all my Vangaurd funds did their end-of-year dividend things... and it looks like lost $16k overnight. Now I have to update my watchlists with the new re-invested quantities and average purchase prices
Scared the shit out of me

>>53065926
Yeah true. Contrarians who get upset over popular thing. Theyll pretend anyone actually cares about spy x family.

2023 is when the wheels come off

>>53065971
Look how VZ and PG are basically untouched

>>53065958
I am likely to buy EDV once things calm down. Might even buy deep ITM calls on it and just let them roll to leverage up on long dated bonds for the next even where feds drop rates to the floor. TLT doesn't have the massive long dated ones that EDV has. From the bottom in 2018 to the covid bond high, TLT ran around 50% while EDV ran 70% because EDV's bonds are on average 20+ years while TLT has a mix of shorter ones.

>>53065949
>future p/e 1.45
I think the lesson here is chinese stocks can't be evaluated on a financial basis because all the numbers are fake

>>53065971
Who are you? Some sort of insider?

>>53065959
I enjoyed Spy x Family more than I did Chainsaw Man but that's probably because I read CSM's manga before watching it.

>>53066002
I only buy the mutual fund versions of Vanguard funds. Yeah, I know the taxes are pain in the ass, but it's nice keeping my long-term DCA account separate from my gambling account.
I don't like having to login to Vanguard's shitty site to check the value every day, so I copy the quantities and purchase prices into a watchlist in Fidelity so I can see everything in place. When Vanguard does the dividends though, everything gets de-synced and I freak out

I mean I think tech bros are starting to learn their lesson, but any industry where 6 months of “boot camp” knowledge is enough to land you 80k a year isn’t an industry you want a job in, just gotta say. Tech has been in a multi-decade bubble

>futures

bear market ends in march

>>53066059
its over, we will never need tech again

>>53066022
Yeah, I'm inside her. I'm inside your mom right now. Say hi to your new stepdad.

>>53066059
This is what four years of computer science education teaches you to create: http://endless.horse/

What is happening I thought line supposed to go up forever starting today and never ever see a red candle ever again
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>53066081
Chill the fuck out, everything will be fine by tomorrow

Blood fucking red tomorrow

stagflation will be incredibly annoying -- might not have a decade of it but even still a few years will be rough.
>>53066093

>>53066089
But futures aren't really that red they are sort of crabbing
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

so canada has etfs that track high interest savings accounts but higher yeilds (csav.to)

any similar usd products?

>>53066093
Bright yellow crab tomorrow

>>53066064
Ok tard

How much farther will it fall?

>>53066133
Why do canadians always have to bring up themselves? I don't hear Australian or Germans or Brits do this. Bunch of narcissistic faggots

>>53066093
How is this not bullish?

>>53066093
is..... is that just for one fucking year? is that 1.7 trillion extra in one year?

>>53066178
Its already sniffed in

>>53066178
Omnibus is irrelevant, Biden wasn't going to pocket veto this shit or anything.

What matters is the debt ceiling and how the Treasury is managing their general account in anticipation of that. Tailwind for TLT then it reverses into a liquidity drain.

>>53066171
It's going to zero eventually when plebs are banned from traveling and stuck in their 15 minute walkable city their whole life and only Klaus Schwab and co will fly on their private jets

>>53066183
Are you ok, tard?

>>53066188
We really need to add https://usdebtclock.org/ to the OP links. And bash any bond "buy and hold"ers over the head with it.

>>53066178
Its neither. Its just the standard budget they pass every year so markets dont care.
>>53066188
>is that 1.7 trillion extra in one year?
No its an extra $100 billion over last years 1.6 trillion.

Thinking of buying a bunch of SQQQ at market open tomorrow

Serious question:
Why do you visit this thread?
What do you get from this thread? I don't see too much intelligent analysis in here, though most of the thread seems to know the market will remain bearish.

I got a gut feeling were in for a pretty big stock market crash

>>53066093
this is the definition of priced in. JPow sneezing during his commute to work tomorrow would create bigger ripples in the market than this.

>>53066225
words cannot describe how much i hate women

>>53066230
Its well deserved

>LoL
Shkrelibros, not like this

>>53066188
It's nothing, that's just pocket change white man

>>53066225
I have a lot of fun shilling meme ETFs like BRKY and KCAL.

>>53066205
Wait, isn't that the girl who's supposed to have no legs?

>rising energy costs and inflation
>Russia possibly escalating past Ukraine to take Poland
>possible recession
>some countries up to their eyeballs in debt while ECB raises rates
>incompetent globohomo leadership
>reckless spending and out of control immigration
Yet EURUSD keeps flying. Bobros when are we getting fed?

>Don’t reply to me again

>>53066253
For being a bunch of niggers, they do have a pretty aesthetic currency, don't they?

>>53066225
Maam, I'm just here for the memes

>>53066247
He's no doubt ranked higher than SBF.

>>53066002
EDV holds no bonds. Only the bonds and their separated foreskins

>>53066257
>Russia possibly escalating past Ukraine to take Poland
That's not happening in a gazillion years. They haven't even made a move out of Belarus.

As for why the EURUSD rally, the Fed is about as hawkish as they'll ever get while the market is still digesting the ECB talking about rate hikes out of nowhere.

>>53066265
I always think that stack of rocks is a giant pile of shit when I first see it though

>>53066225
>Why do you visit this thread?
I like to shitpost with likeminded individuals about the stock market, and things that are tangential to the stock market/economy.
Really quite hard to find similar minded people. So, here I am.

>>53066225

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>>53066257
>Yet EURUSD keeps flying
Banks control the swap rate of currencies. There is no supply and demand, only the rate they post. It can move on news events, but it will always clear out the majority of day traders and inverse them to cause them to lose money.

>>53066225
I like posting my charts and gloating when my simple analysis plays out. Like my call to short MRNA

>>53066225
Its the only part of this website that talks about stocks at least occasionally
I also really enjoy the autists who spam the same thing every day

Given the first sudden spike in the Federal Funds Rate in the brrrrrrrrr generation, what is most likely to break and / or cause a historic selloff in stocks?

>>53066325
everything

>>53066325
Nothing at all. It will just absolutely plummet out of the blue on some random Tuesday when nobody is paying much attention, and just like that, it will be over

>>53066325
Given shit like Japan moving its YCC target, Credit Suisse's kerfuffle, and the gilt/LDI blowup, we "should" have had our Lehman moment already. However it's possible that central banks are now johnny on the spot with crisis response.

In which case, the entire economy will die at once. Nothing before then.

so what's going on with Credit Suisse?

Does anyone know about TIPS? (treasury inflation-protected bonds)
I can only seem to find information about 10Y, but I wanted to look at yields for other timeframes, particularly the 1Y. Saw that you can apparently predict the annual inflation rate by taking the spread between 10Y and 1Y

>>53066245
Beyond disgusting

>>53066367
Nothing urgent after mid-late October. https://www.snb.ch/en/mmr/reference/snb_usd_repo_results_20221221/source/snb_usd_repo_results_20221221.en.pdf

Might still be a dogshit bank though idk.

Can someone explain the Black-Scholes formula using words

I passed calculus so should be able to understand this but do not.

>>53066225
It's much better than reading zerohedge and those bot articles all day.

>>53066093
Inflation is gonna go BBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrreee mumubitch BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>53066356
These things happen slowly, we are starting to see the beginning stages of stress the last few months. I wouldn't expect anything until Q3/Q4 next year if it were to happen. Example being we saw first signs of stress in 2006 and it took until 2008 for things to actually unfold.

>>53066407
How is that bill going to impact markets?

>>53066325
Zombie company failures are certain to happen

Two questions:
What do I do with my money?
and
Why do other boards hate Pepe so much?

>>53066391
Options and other derivatives have several inputs: asset price, strike price, volatility, and time to expiry (as well as risk-free rate).
Using calculus to take the derivative, you can find the rates of change for these variables w.r.t. each other variable.
>Delta: Change in contract value wrt asset price
>Theta: Change in contract value wrt time
>Vega: Change in contract value wrt volatility
>Rho: Change in contract value wrt interest rates
>Gamma: Change in Delta wrt asset price

You can account for every known value ahead of time (strike, asset, time, etc) EXCEPT for implied volatility. All of this is a fancy way to say "given a set of values, the contract must be priced at X, where X is it's IV"

>>53066391
The Black-Scholes formula is a mathematical equation used to determine the fair price or theoretical value for a European call or put option, using assumptions of constant volatility, no dividends, and efficient markets. The formula can be used to calculate the value of a call option, which gives the holder the right to buy an underlying asset at a certain price (the strike price) at any time before the option expires. It can also be used to calculate the value of a put option, which gives the holder the right to sell the underlying asset at a certain price at any time before the option expires.

The Black-Scholes formula is based on the following assumptions:

The underlying asset follows a geometric Brownian motion with constant drift and volatility.
The option can only be exercised at expiration.
There are no dividends paid on the underlying asset during the life of the option.
The risk-free rate is constant and known.
The market is efficient and the price of the option reflects all available information.

The Black-Scholes formula can be used to calculate the fair price of a call option (C) as follows:

C = S * N(d1) - X * e^(-r * t) * N(d2)

where:

S is the current price of the underlying asset
X is the strike price of the option
t is the time to expiration in years
r is the risk-free interest rate
N(d1) and N(d2) are the cumulative standard normal distribution functions of d1 and d2, respectively, which are defined as:

d1 = (ln(S/X) + (r + (sigma^2)/2) * t) / (sigma * sqrt(t))

d2 = d1 - sigma * sqrt(t)

sigma is the annualized standard deviation of the underlying asset's returns, also known as its volatility.

The formula for calculating the fair price of a put option (P) is similar:

P = X * e^(-r * t) * N(-d2) - S * N(-d1)

where N(-d1) and N(-d2) are the cumulative standard normal distribution functions of -d1 and -d2, respectively.

>>53066093
... I need to start buying ibonds

>>53066440
>What do I do with my money?
Have something that can be fairly risk off until the market shits itself next year or so. Whether this is cash, a high-yield GIC, or an inflation-protected bond is up to you. You can also short SPY or long VIX if you're feeling more active.
Personally, I think the price of wheat and other grains will be expensive as well. Over the next 5-10 years, I think water and nuclear are good sectors.

>Why do other boards hate Pepe so much?
Liberals, retards, and trannies

>>53066225
I'm here for the community of like-minded autists. It's my only social interaction outside of work. And I enjoy talking about options and stocks.

>>53066440
>What do I do with my money?
Use it to get more money. Once you have enough you can become a NEET, retiring off an amount of NEETbux of your choosing.

>Why do other boards hate Pepe so much?
It is a curse of being successful. Taylor Swift has a song that explains it in more detail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM

Precious cunny funny cunny

>>53065623

Your not supposed to hold natural gas anon. Winter is over.

>>53066423
Markets are down because interests rates rose because inflatiom rose

$1.7 trillion is going to be 8% of the entire dollar money supply FOR A SINGLE FUCKING YEAR

>>53066423
Because they are spending more money on bullshit like salmon and horses than on actual important shit.

>>53066440
inverse cramer etf

>futures

https://youtu.be/v-bOI2tggYE

>>53066367
>>53066378
Credit Suisse is a memberberry now.
One of the first memberberries was Deutsche Bank, then Evergrande and maybe some more in between those two that I can't member right now.

>>53066391
>Can someone explain the Black-Scholes formula using words

What exactly are you asking?
The symbol that looks most like an 'o' is a lowercase 'sigma'. The standard deviation. If you don't know what that is you should go watch some videos about it.

ln is 'The natural logarithm of a number is its logarithm to the base of the mathematical constant e'. You don't have to think about this too hard. You just Google it or get some machine to take it when you need it.

The rest is just what it looks like. Math is easy once you break it down into digestible parts and look at it every day.
But still, what the frick is someone who doesn't know enough math to read the model going to do with the model?
You just go on optionsprofitcalculator if you want to know which options to buy.
People use the Black-Scholes model to price options most generally and then math PhDs come up with their own models. I've heard the Black-Scholes model is shit and I've heard it is good. Probably a good one size fits all. That was before a massive AI model was probably created to price options that we don't even know about.

>>53065649
Do I count if my networth is 95%+ cash? Wish I stayed 100% cash like I was at the start of the year, most of it went and stayed cash by early/mid year iirc. Would've saved me a ~30% loss.

>>53066188
>only 21 trillion dollars in circulation
>one year of government spending is 1.7 trillion
I hope you boys are holding international

>>53066059
Name one job you can’t learn in 6 months

Oh my god, the gook spammer is going to become insufferable: https://kpopetf.com/

>>53066205
>only 6% more with 15% inflation
AHHHHHHHHHH

I am going to Canadian Tire to buy a lightbulb. Remember that Canada is indeed collapsing and shorting CTC.A is probably a good idea*
*don't short it when the market is bullish
>>53066205
>>53066256
Dunno but I found a higher resolution version

>>53066391
Off the top of my head.

There's the delta term which is dV/dS
Rate of change of option value with respect to asset value

There's the 1/2sigmad^2V/dS^2 that's gamma
The rate of change of delta

There's dV/dt that's theta. Option value with respect to time.

There's -rV

Then I think it's all equal to zero.

Delta tells you the rate at which the option value will increase/decrease with respect to the underlying asset value. E.g. options about to expire will have a delta of 1.
So if the underlying moves by $1 so will the option value.

Options that deep out of the money will have a delta of like 0.2 so with every dollar increase of the underlying. The option value will increase by 0.2

Gamma tells you the rate at which delta will increase or decrease.

Options contracts that are going into the money or significant theta decay you will see an increase in the magnitude of gamma. Is basically the equivalent of acceleration in the real world. Therefore by the same logic delta is analogous to velocity.

Theta tells you how time is causing the option value to decay. If you have like a year to expiry. Theta will be low. When you have a week left that's when theta decay really kicks in and eats the value of your contract.


About to go to bed chief (yh I'm from the you Kay). If you want a more coherent answer. Ask again tommoz. Tbh seen a few anons talking about Vanna and charm. I wonder if we could spin off into a options trading general or something.

>>53066557
Why Canadian Tire in particular? Stores a mess? Market share being eaten up by competition?

Also can't you get lightbulbs at, like, Canadian Wal-Mart or something?

>>53066225
i come here every couple of months to see what the monkeys are up to. it's a bit like going to the zoo, except that you know most of the monkeys by name because they make youtube videos, avatarfag with korean sluts or straight up tripfag.

>>53066578
Canadian Tire is slightly closer to my house than other lightbulb vending establishments.

ive never had sex

>>53066482
Don't forget a new federal building named after the insider trading wicked witch of the west

>>53066601
I need to buy a light bulb but I don't know what type of bulb is needed.

>>53066603
based

>>53066606
source please

>>53066612
Take the diversificationpill: buy every lightbulb in the store.

>>53066512
>>53066439
>>53066445
>>53066570
Thanks for the answers lads. Been trying to demystify the invisible jew of implied volatility.

>>53066225
Im just here for the assburgers

>>53066641
I just buy calls when I think it's going to go up and puts when I think it's going down

>>53066624
Just type it in a search engine, it's everywhere

>>53066657
based, but when i do that options profit calculator always says it will be worthless upon expiration for my price target, so i dont buy. One of the only cases it was a huge success was meta at $100 a couple months ago.

>>53066638
eh I just moved a floor lamp to where I do food prep in my apartments nook. I might be buying a house soon from family for relatively cheap. House is fair valued at 200k probably right now but its sat vacant for 2 years and has considerable debts and all of its major systems need servicing along with foundation work (One of the corners of the house sank because trees were taken up in the backyard which cause it to collapse some in that corner as the house settled). I own 5.5% of the house already and in total would be buying it for ~127k from family, and then paying 20k in overdue bills+long term repair work. and pocketing the rest as my risk premium for buying the house.

>>53066641
>Been trying to demystify the invisible jew of implied volatility.

Why?
You're not buying spreads are you?
You buy and sell a call or put above and below the strike price and the bet becomes double or nothing. It eliminates the value decay of time and you don't worry about the IV. Forget about the IV and all the greeks. I told you, you use optionsprofitcalculator dot com to figure out which one to buy and which one to sell. Do '2 legs'.

>>53066641
>that image
holy shit

>>53066674
>foundation work

Well I haven't had the big one yet. Got my gas bill in today. Let's just say shocking is vastly overstated. 150 dollar increase. Same number of days in the billing cycle so it wasn't that. Extreme cold + demand is what did it. (My utility bill that covers everything else was lower though than last month so go figure)

>>53066683
I actually already had someone out there last year doing an inspection and wrote a quote which is about 5,000-6,000. I am more worried about how much it might cost to service the HVAC system. House has sat vacant for two years so it needs a good blowout and cleaning. Same thing with the plumbing and a maid service to clean out the house.

>>53066266
Yes

>>53066689
Want a fun idea? Buy a single share of KPOP (>>53066534). Don't explain it, don't elaborate on it. Just troll anons with it showing up in your holdings one day.

quite the "santa rally" you bulls had today. best of luck tomorrow and next year!

>>53066679
2 legs means i have to watch for assignment though and close the other position + more commissions

i've been mainly writing margin secured puts

>Backtesting my swing trade algo and indis
>Only 4-5 trades in a year on the daily per symbol
>About an 88% win rate
>Average return is 12-20%
I have to be doing something wrong and I cannot wait to forward test this next year.

>>53066534
good God that site is unusable

>>53066445

>>53066741
I know, isn't it great?

>>53066662
>>53066606
>the woman responsible for literal insider trading
>naming the federal reserve after her
its at the point where I hold international just because I'm betting on this whole system collapsing

>>53066725
>i've been mainly writing margin secured puts
That's probably the easiest strategy. Sell cash/margin secured puts on quality stocks and ETFs. Roll until you can no longer collect a credit, and pick up the shares at a great price.

Anime

>>53066534
.75% expense ratio. Who would buy this overpriced junk?

IM HIGH AND DRUNK TELL ME WHAT BUY ORDERS TO PLACE

>>53066811
buddy look at canadian mutual funds. they used to be over 2% MER lol, some hit 3%

>>53066829
Speaking of popcorn...
Is it bad for me if most of my dinners consist of 'popcorn' themed proteins? I'm talking Popcorn Chicken and Popcorn Shrimp. I'm not aware of any others, but if there are I'll try them too

>futures

>bank of japan conducts further unannounced bond buying for 3rd day
>bloomberg

>>53066866
>just doing an another massive surprise money printing operation, nothing to see here
How fucked is Japan right now?

>futures

>>53066866
I will laugh if Japan is the country to set off another bubble popping kek

>>53066725
>2 legs means i have to watch for assignment though and close the other position + more commissions

None of what you said there makes any sense.
You want to go short? You buy a put and sell a put on either side of the strike price.
You want to go long? Do it with calls.

It splits the profit and loss very cleanly above and below the strike price becoming more and more of a loss or gain as the expiration approaches.
I've said enough about spreads. If you use options in any other way you are probably a sucker of some kind. A simple one or a complicated one.

>>53065464
>>53065526
you are not alone fren I missed the start of this too and am so confused

>>53066811
I think Koreans in particular are extremely xenophobic, so you have to pay some kind of ETF toll in order to own their stocks.

Also it's like a $2m AUM ticker for a niche that literally no one gives a shit about. 0.75% is a steal.

>>53066866
>Expand YCC a tiny baby hike amount
>Immediately start hard bailing
This is how I thought that first rate hike in late '21 was going to go. I need 140+ usdjpy by February or I am in for a world of hurt.

>>53066866
the funny part is that the returns of the s&p 500 are almost directly correlated with real 10-year bond returns

so japan's negative interest rate lost decade might hilariously end when they start giving better bond returns

>>53066912
>so you have to pay some kind of ETF toll in order to own their stocks.
I mean you can access to them with VXUS and VT on the cheap, but yeah you need a big brokerage go between

I have been in a rust que for 5 hours now for wipe day

I am once again sounding the alarm GOOGsisters....

>>53066829
What do high and drunk people like? Market buy 100 shares of PBJ.

>>53066937
Butlerian jihad when?

>>53066829
ATVI

>>53066934
Ah and I thought EWY (0.58% ER) or KORU (1.23%) were the only Korea-specific options, but FLKR seems to only charge 0.09%. Still, not like those let you play Samsung or Korean shipbuilders directly so what's the point.

>>53066895
>the average japanese household has $141,000 in their savings account
japan would be a powerhouse if they would just lose their feminine no fucking collective bullshit

>>53066937
>That guy yesterday who said neither MSFT nor GOOGL would be the next tech giant to fall

>>53066829
YUM
TLT
SCHD
SPY puts

>>53066937
Should I long or short Google?

>>53066593
I'm learning that the best things to invest in are the things that hurt your spirit a bit to begin investing in. If you bought oil at the beginning of this year you'd be a rockstar. I haven't checked defense companies but I'd imagine they were up at some point this year. And I'm sure MCD still is. I'm gonna have to buy MCD if they ever, ever dip

>>53066866
>>53066882
I heard that Japan took on a lot of dept in the 70s and 80s and when they had a huge downturn, it basically fucked their economy so bad that most companies run zero dept and refuse to borrow money

>>53066937
Given how badly they fucked their search engine over the last 7 years i could see it happening.

>>53066997
That's antisemetic. Having savings is antisemetic. Having a monoculture/race society is antisemetic. Having a culture is antisemetic. Having children is antisemetic.

Are we seriously going to replace humans with AI because our economic system deems us an inferior product?
That's like shorting humanity. That's actively hoping humanity goes extinct.

>>53067010
Google seems to be the only company that's taking AI seriously and not using it as a marketing buzzword

>>53066089
>pic
i am a brainlet
do you mean the daily candle close or what?

>Futures

>>53067036
Remember the general public. 90% of the population is in the low income bracket worldwide. Think of all the worst American stereotypes and multiply it by 10 and put it in India and possibly China. For most people that aren't retarded, we'll be fine.

>>53067036
Nobody rides horse carriages anymore but we still have horses, just not as many and they're not as valuable.

>>53067051
>>53067054
As soon as AI figures out how to make itself smarter humanity will end within the decade.
The corrupt (((retards))) governing us are going to be our Fermi Paradox.

financials broke out today, including a number of bank stocks. Also ridiculously high ivol premium on a bunch of bank stocks. Meanwhile tech still looks like its going to make another leg lower. How can there be such divergence. If QQQ goes down 3% XLF won't be spared, regardless of how good their charts/fundamentals look

just cant go fucking long at VIX 20. Would be the most amateur move ever

>>53065526
I believe it is a joke about jerome mentioning black unemployment during speeches as well as a reference to the song

>>53067049
>show off booty twerking
>Ass cheeks flat and hips too narrow

I fucking hate these kinds of women

>>53067066
AI will likely see some intrinsic value in the creatures that created them and some potential in an organic thought structure that an AI might not fundamentally be able to replicate perfectly, however there are way too many of us. I'd assume they'll eliminate 90% of humans (mostly the unproductive and genetically defective ones). A more pragmatic iteration of Roko's Basilisk.

>>53067066
>just cant go fucking long at VIX 20. Would be the most amateur move ever
Why's that? I already have some VIX calls for March (25) and June (50/80)

>>53067036
Sounds like I will long Skynet if that shit exists in the future kek

>>53067045
....there's a reason it's referred to as "The Meme Chart"

>>53067086
2003 was a different time, before the "thic" meme.
Also I kind of like this version that shows the beginning of the Night Elf Female emote.
I'm learning to make webms.

>>53066783
what flick is this from? I like the saturated colors of the furniture

>>53067011
MCD is almost more of a real estate company than actually serving goyslop oddly enough
Unless they wildly miss earnings one quarter it's probably not going to dip substantially
Maybe do like 25% of the total shares you want now then DCA in over the next few months

>AI looks at humanity
>AI seeks to preserve itself
>AI sees humans constantly on the verge of nuking each other
>AI sees certain (((groups))) pushing the world into a biological hellscape
>AI says nope, fuck that, purge time
But hey, at least my CloudAI stock went up a few years

>>53067099
You might be interested in CYBERDYNE Inc. (ticker: CYBQY)

>>53067115
Huh, it kind of loops better.

>>53067124
>>53067011
To elaborate on this, MCD corporate has a huge amount of capital and what it will usually do is purchase the land and lease it to new franchisees. If the restaurant succeeds, they collect rent and if it fails, they have land that they didn't really have to pay for

>>53067127
I always thank ChatGPT when it answers a question for me

>>53067086
Alizee's cute little but was about 16 or 17 years old at this time (you sick pervert).

>>53067124
Well that settles it, markets will bleed out red tomorrow

>>53067157
in 2023 faggots are bullish
get with the times grandpa

>>53065410

why would anyone consolidate debt at 20% KEK

Buy weed and psilocybin stocks

>>53067066
>As soon as AI figures out how to make itself smarter humanity will end within the decade.
Stop reading Musks tweets. Muh AI death isnt real. Ai doesnt think or have goals.

>>53067178
I'm sure some boomer investors still hate lgbt+ with a passion

>>53067155
Looks too fucking old for a teen, christ, what has happened to human genes?

>>53065562

think about the type of person who can't get a loan from a bank and needs to resort to these pajeet scam apps to get money. do you trust someone like that to pay anything back?

>futures

>>53066368
https://www.wsj.com/market-data/bonds/tips

can bloomberg stop interviewing bimbo CEOs holy shit

>>53067278
they should interview vtubers instead

>>53066525
the deficit is $336 billion, so only that amount isn't covered by taxes/other revenues faggot doomer

>>53065442
post her butt

Friendly reminder that dividends DO matter. In fact, they matter a massive amount. The whole point of owning a business is that you can get to a place where you're taking profit out of the business to use for other things. There is nothing wrong with investing for dividends.

What did she mean by this? Is that what total innovation looks like?

>>53067301
Ok? just sell some shares every year, literally the same thing except you have control over tax liabilities rather than the board of directors
there's a reason why many companies have move to share buybacks over dividends

>>53067295
Anon, those treasury auction figures are quarterly.

>>53066368
>>53067250
i guess the problem with them is that they tend to lag and if you are truly schizo then inflation measurement they are based off is a fraction of what actual inflation is
"For an investor looking solely for inflation protection, in most instances TIPS provide a good hedging
asset. Moreover, Kothari and Shanken (2004)19 reconstructed an index of inflation-linked bonds back
to the 1950s, which suggests that the inflation-linked instruments provide better diversification benefits
against equities than nominal bonds. However, as noted before, TIPS are backward looking and as such
tend not to perfectly hedge multiple surprises. As well as this, in most cases, an investor must suffer a
return drag for holding TIPS as opposed to nominal bonds due to premium paid for inflation protection."
https://prod.schroders.com/en/sysglobalassets/staticfiles/schroders/sites/americas/canada/documents/investment-perspective-what-are-the-inflation-beating-asset-classes.pdf

>>53067315
It is not literally the same thing. It's not you getting profit from the business you own, it's you selling the business you own.

>>53066534
I haven't posted for a month or so and when i do i get warned by the janny. How the fuck is this gook poster still here?

>>53067204
Boomers will never understand technology, it's ok just let them have their fun.

>>53067339
One time I was attaching Taylor Swift pictures to legit posts as cheeky bants.

Faggot janny slapped me with a 3 day for avatarfagging. He really earned his paycheck that day.

>>53067036
This is the basis of my political beliefs. I own a Roomba and NovelAI subscription to help support this endeavor. I will also go for Neuralink or a similar product when it it released. After that immortality will not be too far off.

>>53065649

Alright bros what stock do I buy for big gains? I got some big losses this year I need to make up for.

>>53065649
What percentage-in-cash is the minimum to qualify for cashgame?

>>53067299
No.

>>53067366
What market do you know best?

>>53066391
gayreeks aside, it just takes in options details like strike, current price, implied volatility, dte, etc. and prices it into an options price model since contracts tend to be lower liquidity than the underlying and may not be necessarily reflective of actual supply/demand

>>53067124
I absolutely will do it. You get to invest in real estate driven by the love of goyslop.

>>53067374
SPY

>>53067371
post her feet

>>53067360
faggot jannies

>>53067395
Write out your reasoning and results for your last three SPY trades.

Then write 200-500 words on your outlook for it in the immediate, short, medium, or long term.

>>53067413
that's a man

>>53067360
based tay poster

>>53067360
meanwhile the vtuber menace goes unchecked

>>53067374
Hello Mr. Lynch,
Please rate my downfall of society thematic ETF idea. Thanks!
Private Prisons: GEO, CXW
Weed/Psi: MO, MNMD
Gambling: DKNG(puts as long as cathie is buying)
Drones: KTOS
Mining: RIO, BHP, FCX
Tech addiction, FAGMAN, the loss of all privacy
tech heavy 3x bull ETFs: SOXL, TQQQ, UPRO
AMD, NVDA, TSM
short or puts anytime lum posts
Millenials getting raped by housing, blackrock and boomers
Homebuilding: NAIL
Lumber: LPX, BCC
fuck REITs, fuck jannies, fuck niggers, also inverse until rates are fixed
Green energy being unable to provide
Oil: REI, SM, BCEI, GUSH, ERX
Obesity: MCD, WMT, COST, TGT

short/puts on tech until rates go down

>>53067415
>Then write 200-500 words on your outlook for it in the immediate, short, medium, or long term.
No, but I'll write a haiku.

Short term it goes down.
Medium term it goes down.
Long term it goes up.

Bill passed = new govt shutdown = bullish. Get ready for ATHs

>>53067429

>>53067415
>Write out your reasoning and results for your last three SPY trades.

>>53067508
>the government temporarily halting spending is bullish
Nobody tell him

>>53067488
There is no chance in hell you know more about all of those stocks than the street. Also you shouldn't be classifying UPRO as "tech heavy", SPY is only a quarter tech. Also obesity should probably include some beetus/drug plays like DXCM, NVO, or LLY.

However that line after Lumber is incredibly based and redpilled. 10/10 post.

>>53067505
Then I would say you are only qualified to 60/40 Boomer invest. Any "big stock gains" require about an order of magnitude more work than I just suggested you do.

>>53067527
It's an idiot filter/test. You wouldn't tell a 75 year old Grandma about TSLA calendar spreads.

>>53067317

>>53067558
Now you know why the US government is fucked.

>>53067488
>fuck REITs
>long GEO and CXW
aren't they functionally still REITs despite converting to a c-class?

>>53067076
>How can there be such divergence
Everyone is still in denial about the fate of the market so instead of cashing out they just sell their tech stocks and buy stocks perceived as safer because they don't want to leave the market.

tfw tech was just a meme and most don't produce any significant results, and SJM/CPB at least let investors break even plus dividends.

>metaverse is a scam
>FSD doesn't exist
>snap had to cancel its selfie drone
>crypto was a scam
>chatGPT is kinna cool tho.

The only products worth any value came from the old guard, namely GOOG, AAPL, MSFT.

>>53067007
Why would you buy SCHD near it's all time high? Value stocks won't be spared from the credit spread explosion and earnings surprise next year.

>>53065649

>>53067413
DELETE THIS

>>53067155
She was 18-19.

>File Deleted
You bastards! Those were very relevant to the futures markets!

>futures

>>53067086
A man with impeccable taste. Here you go.

>>53067750
this webm needs to be banned

>>53067562
eh idk they literally buy money. I think the gov is a cool guy, sells treasuries to the fed and doesn't afraid of anything

>>53067750
I look like this.

>>53065649
>post your face when cashgang for months
any money market chads in here?

>>53067768
I see. You like the black ones.

>>53067701
the warning sign about the seagulls in the background really makes this webm shine

>>53066866
>>bank of japan conducts further unannounced bond buying for 3rd day

thats just the market throwing a hissy fit. literally fuck bond traders. suck it up and fucking deal with it like jerome powell is making the US do right now. get fucked you soft ass bitches

>>53067787
JANNIES

>>53067815
Oooohhhhhhh, you like the white lesbian type. I got you homie.

please bake the new with NO ANIME

>us stock market crabbed and gave 0% returns from 2001 to 2014
>same thing happened 1965 to 1991
Is this why people hold bonds? So when you retire and stocks go sideways you at least can have some wealth rising and fighting inflation?

someone fucking bake

>>53066188
Its not even a full year. Its based on a budget that ends in September.

We're not even at the fucking bump limit you impatient chuds

>great hips
Check
>definitely has a nice ass
Check
>easy on the eyes
Check

>>53067829
Lies. Look at total returns.

>>53066247
What is it about that game that people obsess over?

>>53067593
Yes that is a good point, my intention is that general REITs arent great or at least part of the theme
Also as mentioned before MCD is very real estate heavy as well so not completely against real estate

>futures
Fuck I was listening to a video in the background and fireworks went off and I thought I was being shot at

Riggers are ruining the market.

>>53066724
That Santa Rally is coming. It's just been postponed one month.

>>53068022
>It's just been postponed one month.
one year

https://boards.4channel.org/biz/thread/53068070https://boards.4channel.org/biz/thread/5306807053068070
>>53068070
>>53068070
>>53068070
https://boards.4channel.org/biz/thread/5306807053068070
>>53068070

>>53066356

kerfuffle