/biz/ - Business & Finance

Green Boi

Ummmm yeah I'll buy SOXS calls today thank you very much

when is the rest of the world going to get its shit together

>>53060914
>/smg/
>>53060914
>Bagholding
yup

Does everybody think TSLA is bagholding their own ticker or what?

>>53060897
>Draining the SPR is a clear signal the US doesn't want to start WW3. Showing incapability and weakness after years of strength.
I present to you the possibility that certain political elements will want to lose it, because that is more profitable.

bobo i don't feel so good...

Ok, I'm officially putting out an /smg/ missing person report on scoopsies. It's been over a week since he's last been seen and i'm worried sick that something has happened to my bb boy. Any sightings should be promptly reported to jrocker829@gmail.com

>>53060914
baggu

Anyone not shorting this rally deserves to lose money

>>53060946
Hire one of the 9 Seattle anons to go find him

>tfw natgas baggie

I how can it drop so fast

>>53060944
you should be shorting shitcos like MRNA

>>53060914
Just sign right here, bobo. This will confirm your apology to mumu. I know it's embarrassing, humiliating even, but you must do it if you don't want to go to bear jail and be raped by tyrone. Just sign right here. Yes. Good. I knew you were smart, despite what everyone says about you! Hahaha, sorry bobo, only kidding, it's a joke! Forget I said anything.

TSLA is about to go down
I'm yelling "Timber"
You better move

>>53060954
Bruh
You just gonna short vicious rallies like CVNA up 15%?

God damn should I short again? Or maybe just add to my SI short…

>>53060960
I kneel.

Cashbros, I rule everything around me

>>53060956
Poem anon is already on my payroll. He's pretty much my officer K for scoopsies. Unfortunately scoopsies WFH and literally never leaves his apartment which makes him nearly impossible to find.

>presents

What etfs are you guys dcaing?

>>53060981
That sounds like a "can't do" Zoomer attitude. I know you're better and more schizophrenically obsessed than that.

>>53060958
same way it went up so fast

>>53060946
Scoops blew up his port. He has no reason to continue posting here.

>>53060999
JNUG

>>53060999
PNC Bank 4% savings account

‘Twas the night before MOASS
And all through the thread
Not a creatura was posted
Not even that Netflix one with the huge head

>>53060969
Think macro not micro, and I mainly trade SPY but I just opened a call spread on Tesla

>>53060935
iktfb, starting to make a turn though

>>53060960

>TFW you bought the generational bottom

SPY will never ever trade below 385 again.

>>53060926
honestly fascinating to be watching the battle of the giants going on as a sidelines spectator. the Right is getting more intense, i wonder if they'll ever be able to break through (((their))) control? What do you guys think? Will (((they))) win or will the righteous win? Ye got cancelled already, right?

>>53060980
>Wants to be cream'd
Based cream chad
>>53060999
checked
I'm buying more QQQ

>>53061023
>will the righteous win
everyone has a price

I went all cash days ago and invested in this, am I gmi?

>>53061001
You're right, i'm showing weakness and should be ashamed of myself.
>>53061005
>leaving /smg/ ever
There is only one way out of here and it's in a pine box

>>53060999
AMD.

>Anon... that's not...

AMD. Next question.

>>53061004
IT SHOULD BOUNCE AT LEAST ONCE RIGHT

>>53061022
Lol delusional niggers like you are why there is still money to be made in the market

once again another fun day for cocky mumus and then a dump for no reason tomorrow
then a dead /smg/ for a week

Reminder that bears use bullying tactics because they don't have good arguments.

>>53061023
>Ye got cancelled already, right?
A bipolar nigger has a lot more chains and a lot less planning ability than the rocket autist. His odds aren't great, but they're better.

>>53061036
keys too small

>>53060939
will think some more of that

>Up 5% yesterday
>Down 15% today

>>53060999
SPXL

>>53061043
kek, baggies

>>53061036
>didn't get an ancient digital synth with midi in/out while also being made out of metal and built like a fucking tank instead of shitty plastic that will break in a year

NGMI

>>53061051
The keys are full size though, like on a real piano.

>>53061036
>not a keytar
Recession hitting hard. Goods inflation plummeting.

>>53060999
forgot to say, I'm building up VT

>>53061050
every time a billionaire names the Jew, it's a win. who will win, idk, but you gotta appreciate the victories when you get 'em.

Hey buttheads. I posted earlier about my spreads getting assigned early. Well it all worked out in the end. Check ‘em

>>53061049
rape hikes aren't done, shit&piss500 pe is still over valued, earnings are going to be shit, there's a lot more to be made to the down side so the eventual ride above ath will have more to be made as well. also pivots historically don't happen until vix 40 so there's that. at worst we're both wrong and crab wins

This might be my favorite image this year.

OMG ARE WE FINALLY PIVOTING?!

>>53061107
>at worst we're both wrong and crab wins
if bulls are wrong then they just sit and wait. if bears are wrong they have to switch sides at the right time. sounds risky to me.

>>53061120
hope you bought, anon. this was the bottom. 10 year bullrun on the horizon. remember to buy and hold.

>>53061129
fookin heck

>>53061105
who??

>>53061011
I was the guy in the last thread asking about dividend ETFs. I bank with PNC but just have a checking and their cashrewards visa CC. is this savings acc worth it?

>>53061016
The thesis on used cars is macro
And I like to short things that have a good shot at going to zero

>>53061113
ape sissies!

>>53061147
That’s right fellow. I’m done with options fuckin smell ya later

>>53061113
this is my favorite image. there was a time and place to get in on the tulip mania. when the news was talking about it, when there legitimately was a short squeeze to end all short squeezes going on, that honestly would have been successful if (((they))) didn't LITERALLY MADE IT ILLEGAL TO BUY THE STOCKS IN QUESTION, LITERALLY, L I T E R A L L Y.

now is not that time. it's been over since that day, when i sold near the top, in the premarket, like an absolute fucking boss. i would have kept hodling if they didn't cheat. i bet if you look at a chart it confirms this.

>>53061159
when it comes to etfs always, and I mean always, go with vanguard
they will be the cheapest every single time

>>53060999
ETFs are shit. You're paying a 0.5% fee for the privilege of a public list of stocks you could just buy yourself w/ zero commissions, and a set of publicly posted composition changes that get frontrun every year.. if not more frequently.

>>53061113
>letting the scale go to -120% thus diminishing the visual meaning of a -85% drawdown

>>53061180
>0.5%
what shit etfs are you buying

>>53060999
JEPI

>>53061180
>0.5%
Lol are you new here?
ETF fees are low. SPY is 0.09%. VTI is 0.03%.

>>53061199
>He's never bagheld a stock worth negative dollars.

>>53061159
Up until like 2 months ago, PNC's rate was 0.05%. Then they suddenly cranked the dial up to 3.5%, then 4.0%. It's even beating my Marcus account (3.30%). If you have cash sitting around somewhere, it wouldn't be a bad place to park it. I have like $30k in there and make about $100/mo. Nothing amazing, but better than $0 and better than -$2000/mo in the market

>>53060883
is the loan secured by anything worthwhile though
i think most of his loans are secured by TWTR stake, meaning these margin calls are worse for the issuer than for him, like what are they gonna do, take ownership of that dumpster fire?

to be fair this year bears have just had to wait too

>>53061204
perfect body

who is this?

>>53061127
i guess you guys are in for a reminder. i'll do the hard thing and explain:

>the market goes up much more than it goes down historically
>bear markets never last that long regardless of circumstances
>JPow literally has to pivot at some point, as soon as possible in all honesty, for a "soft landing"
>AMD is a fantastic company in the most important sector in the economy with a bright future and perfect management

i mean, just buy and hold good semiconductor companies. it's free money at this point. the only way it fails is if the nukes drop and then, who cares about your portfolio? those are literally the two options. we all die, or you at least double your money in AMD. those are your choices. i know what side im betting on.

>>53061204
i just want a white girl with an ugly face and big ass and titties. is that so much to ask?

>ugly face: they'll be loyal and appreciate you more
>big tits and ass: for you to enjoy

>>53061252
patrician

>>53061221
>buy TWTR on margin
>have fun with it, fire all the cunts, dig into their secrets
>run it into the ground
>this makes TSLA take a dump
>oops guess I can't keep Twitter then, it's yours now
>banks get worthless dead company
>Musk goes back to focusing on TSLA making it and his bags go back up
4D chess

>>53061203
Look at QYLD, kek. Look at SOXL, or GUSH, or BOIL.
JEPI isn't much better, to be clear.

>>53061209
VTI is a decent ETF. One of the few.

Even then, as an S&P tracking ETF, you got to enjoy getting TSLA dumped on your ass at a 1 trillion valuation after a 5x runup into the index inclusion news. That singular index composition change created a 1% performance drag on all S&P 500 tracking ETFs.

Pick your own stocks, folks. If you're incapable of this, why are you even here?

>>53061252
Characters in porn games I jack off to have more personality than this. Amazing.

Reminder that worrying about expense ratios or commissions is extremely semitic.

>SANTA RALLY

>>53061269
>pick your own

>>53061269
>If you're incapable of this, why are you even here?
Because ETFs are a part of the market, regardless of how hurt your troon feefees are.

>>53061265
you're so dumb you probably feel physical pain watching Jeopardy

WWIII is vatnik or vatnik cum-chugger hopium, but shit is actually fucked. Last warning for bulls, you have until the collar at 3835-3850 fails.

>>53061252
>ugly face: they'll be loyal and appreciate you more
hahahaha that is so not how it works. Loyalty correlates inversely with body count, not with looks. An ugly bitch with complexes will jump from dick to dick for egoboost hits.

>>53061296
no u

>>53061294
ETFs are a scam to extract fees for zero effort.

>>53061265
did he even get any secrets? is anything even happening as a result of what "secrets" he got?

honest question btw, i actually don't know. i assume even if he got anything legitimately damning, the MSM would never cover it, correct?

>Bros the JPM Collar
>I saw it on FinTwit™ !!

What’s Mark to Market?

>>53061315
I wish I knew what the fuck they’re talking about.
>gamma and charm!

>>53061305
>Loyalty correlates inversely with body count, not with looks.

even if i take the bait: how do you know what a woman's body count is? im trying to find the high probability bet of a loyal white wife here anon, help me out. the best i can come up with is to unironically become amish, and no im not even kidding. you gotta give up electricity and internet but at least you get a loyal white wife who will bear you lots of white babies and won't cheat on you with tyrone guaranteed. might be worth it.

HERE COMES THE DROP!

>>53061296
I’m gonna stop watching and see if my nose bleeds go away

Bottom is in. Rally starts now.

>>53061332
If it's 0 a girl will tell you that. Honestly most nice girls are pretty honest about it, don't believe the fear-mongering on here that every girl has had a million cocks in her by the time she's 25. For some girls it's certainly true but it's a distribution like most things.

>>53061269
>Pick your own stocks, folks.
People generally aren’t very good at it, and you have time sales too. Case TSLA has been unfortunate for all the index etf’s but you’re conveniently forgotting all the stellar multi-decade performers index investors have gotten to enjoy.

>>53061311
Lol
>extract 0.03%-0.09% in fees
LMFAO yoooooo you're really retarded, huh?

>>53061311
With etf’s you get the market gains with zero effort and almost zero fees.

>>53061269
>why are you even here?
To shitpost and lurk, while I ignore most advice on here and just DCA into my positions.

>>53061332
just multiply whatever they tell you by 3

https://twitter.com/kevinolearytv/status/1608490975147741185
The FTX simp got hacked
... maybe, it's hard to tell

>>53061312
Yep, "Twitter files" uncovered how the FBI would ask them to ban/shadowban joke accounts or boost failed propaganda accounts (like, pro-"democracy" accounts in Yemen or Venezuela or whatever). It's stuff that everybody suspected but now we have evidence and can see all the details of what happened and who said what to whom.

>>53061332
Women talk, it's not hard to make a woman talk about her history. But it might not be the best way to go about it, because some pretend to be more conservative and pure than they really are, the best way is to talk about things like how you want a woman who doesn't work, doesn't use contraceptives and just makes babies, a roastie will get mad or talk about how anyone can be whatever they want, so you can quickly tell the different between the roastie mentality or not. Contraception is the key topic because even crypto-roasties won't hide that it's essential to them.

>>53061363
Some are pretty honest about it. I’ve seen them compare body count like it’s a competition.
>386 EOD

OKAY BROS REPORT IN

What did we think of this years Santa rally?

>>53061354
just keep your finger outta there

>>53061397
The reality is that for nasty girls that are going to lie about it, they will also have other red flags that should cause you to avoid them. Whores are whores not just because of their body count but because of their whorish behaviour. It's not that hard to tell.

>Verification not required.

>>53061400
im jewish now

>>53061366
TSLA is representative of the frontrunning issue. It tends to be a much larger issue in the niche ETFs everyone loves to shill.
You're correct that most people shouldn't try to pick stocks unless they're willing to put in some effort to learn, but they shouldn't be trying to pick ETFs either. Just stick with VOO, VT, or VTI.

>>53061392
gummy fu?

>>53061269
>Pick your own stocks, folks. If you're incapable of this, why are you even here?
John Direxion does it for me so that I don't have to. Sometimes he makes a mistake, but he's human and we all make mistakes sometimes. Are you going to tell me you never made a mistake in a stock pick, not even once?

>>53061409
i put it in all the way every day and i never have nosebleeds
its just like the gym, your nose wont be strong if you dont train it

>>53061265
>Yes he lost billions of dollars on purpose because of how smart he is lol he was just going broke for fun

>>53060883
Did cucklon really just get margin called and then try to dig himself out of the twtr hole by dumping TSLA which was pumping?
He's really /oneofus/ as much as that feels bad to admit

>>53061470

>>53061381
>I ignore most advice on here and just DCA into my positions.
that's cheating

Good +10% day on SOXLadies. I think I'm gonna play some vidya now.

>>53061311
>ETFs are a scam to extract fees for zero effort.

>"Vanguard is scamming you buy charging $300 for $1000000 of investments!"

I hate millenials so fucking much

>>53061467
>>53061470
I was just shitposting, it doesn't work like that
https://archive.vn/hbVCj

>>53061475
Yeah I already saw that one.
Glad I dumped most of TSLA earlier at the pump. Now tempted to slurp even though I know now is a bad time to slurp.

>>53061392
>>53061312
Not even just that, there were like 12 fbi agents working at twitter that had private chat set up with fbi.
The biden laptop story is friggin remarkable, fbi knew (because they had the laptop) what was on it and groomed twatter staff into believing the russians would release similar stuff. So basically when the laptop story came out it was all suppressed and the groundwork was already laid to make it look like russian intervention. Literally fbi interfering with an election and being partisan.

>>53061489
>I hate millenials
H-hey! Stop right there, criminal scum!
Not every millenial is a shitdick >:(

>>53061505
>MRNA

>>53061505
> Literally fbi interfering with an election and being partisan.
As opposed to allowing a different state to control the narrative in your most important popularity contest? The case of undermining democracy to pursue an idealized version of democracy is a touch untarded, no?

>>53061533
>>53061505
didn't mean to reply to you with that, but FBI is a terrorist organization.

>>53061505
>>>53061392
>>>53061312
>Not even just that, there were like 12 fbi agents working at twitter that had private chat set up with fbi.
>The biden laptop story is friggin remarkable, fbi knew (because they had the laptop) what was on it and groomed twatter staff into believing the russians would release similar stuff. So basically when the laptop story came out it was all suppressed and the groundwork was already laid to make it look like russian intervention. Literally fbi interfering with an election and being partisan.
Honestly the whole fbi shit is extremely based and how the kosher cunt Trump should have learned to apply state power.
Why is it only the left who know how power works?
This is why I never feel bad when I see whites fail, they deserve it for being gigacucks and sucking state dick so hard
The state exists to increase its own power

>natgas

Im ruined

>>53061505
>He doesn't know that the US government has been controlled by various alphabet organizations since the 60's
If the CIA blowing JFKs head off wasn't a big enough of a hint I really don't know what to tell ya. It's a shame the average us citizen is too blind and stupid to realize that every election cycle is just bread and circus for the plebians.

>>53061545
>a different state
...there is no other state you retard. Three years of investigations later and you still believe that nonsense? It was literally made up by the hillary campaign.

>>53061555
>Why is it only the left who know how power works?
True, they get many things right, such as intolerance and non-personing for their ideological opponents, it's just that they're going in the wrong ideological direction so it's hard to praise them. The "right" is basically just retards who are going in the same direction but dragging their feet, and since they're retarded they concluded that since their enemies using power properly is bad that means that using power properly itself is bad.

>>53061581
The irony of calling someone a retard while making the claim that Russia and China are not actively trying to come out on top. Leaf mayo, my fellow anon. What a funny meemee.

>>53061575
Where exactly the fuck did I imply that?!

Point is there is cold hard evidence on the table...again.

>>53061420
good point. nice 420 btw.

is this living room worth $2,500,000 ?

>>53061392
>But it might not be the best way to go about it, because some pretend to be more conservative and pure than they really are, the best way is to talk about things like how you want a woman who doesn't work, doesn't use contraceptives and just makes babies, a roastie will get mad or talk about how anyone can be whatever they want, so you can quickly tell the different between the roastie mentality or not. Contraception is the key topic because even crypto-roasties won't hide that it's essential to them.

honestly this is pretty good advice and i'll heed it in the future.

>>53061489
This is the retard level thinking that allow this ETF proliferation, and allowed all the generic mutual funds that came before them.
>short term treasuries yielded 1.5%
>sort term treasury ETF fee charge 0.15%
1.5% / 0.15% = 10%.
There's billions of dollars sitting in an ETF that purely purchases these risk free treasuries, something any individual can easily buy themselves, and these ETFs are taking upwards of 10% of the profits. How is this not a scam?

You look at the fee and imagine you're paying a small portion of your holdings, but you have to account for that against your gains. This is performance drag. You're compounding slower than someone who just buys the same shit outright. You're paying for nothing.
As I've said, the broad Vanguard indexes are a few of the only worthwhile ETFs, A small investor can't reasonably be expected to purchase 1000+ companies. However, when you guys talk about niche sector/country/leveraged/covered-call ETFs, it's almost entirely dogshit.

>>53061607
>while making the claim that Russia and China are not actively trying to come out on top
What is this milktoast argument? Sure thats fucking true you retard but has nothing to do with what I said.

>>53061598
>>53061555
There is no "right" in the western hemisphere
It is all just left vs left autism all the way through
What is called the right is are just the leftist of 5-10 years ago, so of course they will always lose because they are less radical.

>>53061626
Looks like it’s in Alaska, so no

APOLOGIZE.

>>53061632
For the last few years I made a habit of talking about stuff like this with everyone, basically I tell everyone early on that I want a wife with whom to make 7 children. The least suitable women for this are also the ones who insist the most that I'll never find anyone like that, the more suitable ones think it's possible think you can make it. There's just a problem though: the most suitable ones also enter long-term/lifelong relationships around the age of 18-19.

>>53061641
Basically agree, but fuck, the migatards really turned out to be all-talk pussies

>>53061639
>.there is no other state
> Sure thats fucking true
You have to pick one, friend.. Do you (as the head glowie) make the decision to forfeit the notion that you're actively engaged in state to state fuckery and take steps towards making sure your side doesn't get fucked or do you let it ride and allow every piece of information to be weaponized at all points? You clearly can't have both without yoyoing between different realities.

>>53061681
OVERBOUGHT
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>>53061637
>ETFs are taking upwards of 10% of the profits
They take the fee, I think you should check the math

I sold . I dont want to get heemed tomorrow

>-60%
>OVERBOUGHT

suck my dick bobo

>>53061637
3x leverage for 1% fee = 9 trillion dollars

>>53061692
Read the rest of the statement you room temperature iq retard. They already proved it was the hillary campaign that made it up the whole 'russia tampered with the election' so they could derail the trump administration for 3 years.

>>53061329
>What’s Mark to Market?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wahlberg#Music

>>53061689
no problem. just Be Like Leo.

>>53061745
He's banging a 34 year old now btw

>>53061728

>>53061745
Must be tough having an endless line of hot women throwing themselves at you.

>>53061735
>conversation starts at laptop
>conversation teleports to hillary
>room temperature iq
I don't even have to be here. A mirror would yield this exact same conversation.

>>53060999
SARK

>>53061663
It doesn't have to be in Alaska if you don't like Alaska, it's a boat, I just wanted opinions on the styling

>>53061637
I have never in my life seen anyone talk about or buy a short term treasury ETF. Long duration treasuries are amazing ETFs.

>>53061036
>>53061051
>>53061070
>>53061072
>not buying a Jupiter or Juno
>not buying a dx7
>the anon who bought an Alesis
Small midi keyboards are a meme. They fucking suck. The keys are trash and I really don’t see the point unless you can play with both hands multiple octaves. I have a Jupiter X and im looking at getting a Arturia mk2 88 key next. Bought an arturia keystep 37 for traveling and even that isn’t enough.

>family got sick from Christmas again
so annoying

I’m scared

>China getting absolutely fucked by Kung Flu
>Chinese stocks still pumping

Why?

>>53061297
i can't believe nobody is talking about this
this shit could easily be a black swan signal

>>53061769
oh look it was that ugly face chick with big tits i was talking about!

Shits about to dump. Was obvious as fuck based on yield/VIX price action. Let’s see who’s the last to get out

>>53061786
I didn’t realize it was a boat. Doesn’t look good at all, but then again it’s a boat.

>>53061819
Just take your meds you'll be fine. If it gets to be too much, ask mommy to put the leash on for safety

>>53061798
I have an Alesis too and I agree its kind of shitty. Keys too stiff

>>53061637
> You're paying for nothing.

Have fun rebalancing hundreds and hundreds of positions.

By the way, how much you reckon that is going to cost?

Don't answer, retard. Filtered

How are you doing little wolfies? Did recession happen yet? Is Lemon moment happening tomorrow?

of course the fucking santa clause rally starts the day after my calls expire. fuck this market!

>>53061558
I'm bemused, befuddled, and baffled by BOILbarons. What on Earth is your market edge? You're just flipping coins based on the weather. What did you expect?

Why are my calls down but the market is up

>>53061860
STOP

>>53061731
Ah, so that's how the Rothschilds made their money.

>>53061860
still up 30% from last year

>>53061297
>random meme lines with no context

Wow really showed me

>>53061773
Jesus fuck you fucking retard...
>hillary campaign makes up story about RUSSIAN intervention in trump campaign
>3 years of investigations prove fuck all
>fbi uses twitter to subvert laptop story saying its the RUSSIANS
>>53061545
>a different state to control the narrative
>>53061581
>...there is no other state you retard. Three years of investigations later and you still believe that nonsense? It was literally made up by the hillary campaign.

Thats how we got to hillary, and since im convinced your two remaining brain cells are fighting for third place, im out. Please subscribe and click the like icon.

>>53061875
Probably something to do with time value

>>53061875
IV crush, theta burn, shit delta too far otm, or it's a 0dte

>>53061851
>1PBTID
lmao

>>53061796
BIL and SHY are hilarious because of their daily charts. BIL's also hilarious on monthly scales.

>>53060999
VOO

>>53061796
i've got some money parked in ICSH

>>53061819
'bout what? If it's the market, consider shifting some of your portfolio into cash, commodity index ETFs, or I-Bonds.

>>53061712
You're missing my point. Perhaps the concept is too difficult to understand. Putting the fee in context of asset value is retarded. The fee is pure performance drag.

>>53061894
>put-call ratio making absurd new highs this month
>meme line
either big money knows something or the entire planet is short and about to get rugpulled
I think the big money buying up an absurd amount of hedge puts is more likely than retail shorting in absurdly record amounts

>>53061875
Please stop buying options if you don't even know how they work.

>>53061637
Sorry mate, I don't have the fucking time to do daily rebalancing or the know how to do swap agreements. Also broad index etfs even more a meme because you're better off just buying the top ten holdings which make up 90% of the index.

>>53061821
Disruption will last less than expected. Think about it: if literally every single Celestial has caught it either this week or last, what does the future hold?

>>53061798
the QS7.1 is great, anon. semi-weighted keys. built like a tank. cheap as fuck too, got it used in perfect condition for like $100 a few years ago. way better than hammer-weighted plastic that sells for over a grand, idk what you're talking about.

>Jupiter or Juno

okay, if you're willing to spend 10-20x the price. i bought mine for $100. i was just looking for a great MIDI controller. the built-in sounds are just a bonus.

>>53061875
what strike/expiration date?

>>53061954
>Sorry mate, I don't have the fucking time to do daily rebalancing or the know how to do swap agreements.
Chop. Chop. Chop.

>>53061936
Needs to go back to 10%

>>53061899
I understand you're upset because you think that big brother isn't playing fair, friend. My point pierces beyond that, which is why I said it was ironic when I found out how liberal you are with the word retard. Your conviction that you're not the one struggling to keep the lights on is where the irony lies. I hope that helps.

>>53061978
Chop is only a problem if you hold long term like retard

>>53061973
bros whats the answer to this math

what's the point of holding overnight? if the price action is the same whether day trading or swing trading, what's the point of taking on the risk of gapping and lack of stop loss support (stop losses only work during the day)?

and before you respond, i feel like the answer is already going to be along the lines of "well it's easier to tell where price is going on the larger time frames", but i feel like that's a fucking lie. the charts look the same as highly active intraday charts. the price action and moving averages move the same way, except overnight there are gaps whereas intraday there are not. seems foolish unless you're gambling with time instead of with stop losses.

>>53061994
>Chop is only a problem if you hold long term like retard
I remember Scoops was holding all his leveraged ETFs longterm

>>53062002
0 = 26

>>53062002
bro no don't fall for the meme

>>53062002
>-7 + x = 19 + x
x clearly does not give a fuck about your puny human integers.

T S L A
K W E B

went all in on blackberry ($bb) at $3.50 am i gonna make it brahs?

>>53062017
Still waiting on the soxl baggies to post.

>>53062017
Kek, diamond hands

>>53062004
In the past month, SPY is down 6%. NSPY is only down 2%.

>>53062044
They never do anymore, but I know the true path.
>>53061056

>>53062017
>I remember Scoops was holding all his leveraged ETFs longterm
They all were. SOXL_Shill and the gang. It was backtested, foolproof. Then suddenly...

>>53061944
The fee on spy is just under 0.1% and the performance drag should be 1% over ten years (1-0.001)^10

>>53061993
your point was dumb you psued

>>53062056
...they secured profit by bailing as it crossed below the 200 DMA?

My Stinky fish bags are up 9% today. Still down 60 tho

>>53060962
Up ~5% today. Was it a correction?

Oopsie poopsie

>>53061798
I'm not a keyboard player, I'm a programmer and gonna make a software synth, so I just need a small keyboard with aftertouch and a bunch of features that I can make sure to support. If I wanted something to actually play I'd buy a Linnstrument.

Can someone explain this JPM 8385 collar meme to me

>>53062063
Right, and given that I already have openly challenged your perception what do you think my response to the claim that you perceived my point to be dumb is going to be, big IQ genius man? Also, show don't tell, dumbfuck.

>>53061204
How do I get a 2/10 like this?

>>53062070
Today is a short squeeze/dead cat bounce. My financial advisor (Mr. "Pitbull" Worldwide) advised me to short as it finished plateauing and began rolling back over.

>>53062094
>>53062063
I didn't read the IDs. That one is my bad. Still fuck you, guy.

>>53062080
Wall Street is big on BDSM and collars are a part of that.

>>53062096
Buy jepi apperently.

>>53062094
literally oozing pseud

Pump or dump tomorrow ?

>>53062031
Clearly x is a variable

>>53062056
to be fair, it's gonna be nice buying up SOXL with every dollar i own as soon as the Ukraine war ends and QE is back on the menu. idk when that will happen, of course, but when it does... buy all the SOXL you can afford.

this is a weird episode of /smg/

>>53062098
And then the buying came back in

And now back to your regularly scheduled Tesla seppuku. Brought to you by BLACKROCK!

>>53062112
Cool, will you be my reference? I am trying to impress a couple of debate philosophy discords

>in text group with Mexican co-workers
>Boss texts order to group
>Co-worker responded "dale"
>I ask who TF is dale?
>He meant "dalè" like Mr worldwide
I'm too white for this shit

>>53061505
They won the battle and lost the war. They showed their hand to elect the worst president in US history

>>53062071
>women just have to look good... not even look good, just like, reasonable
>men have to... and... and also... also they need to... and.......

>>53062117
Yeah, letters can totally identify as numbers. Sure thing, tranny.

OH MY GOD ITS SO FUCKING GREEEEEEEEEN

>>53062138
Respond “no mames guey”

>>53062132
This is the generational bottom, frfr
>>53062138
And you replied with "Speak English, please", right??

>>53062098
>Mr. "Pitbull" Worldwide

i never got into this meme when it was current. what happened? why was a short balding manlet so popular for a time in the mainstream? he just sounds and looks like a smug faggot. i don't get it.

>>53062080
They have about a trillion dollars tied up in options in such a manner as to basically pin SPX exactly where they want it. That expires soon and the put/call ratio for the markets (which I posted a screencap of earlier that only two people even noticed and only one person realized the significance of) is at an all-time high which means the amount of money betting the market will go down soon is immense, bigger than it ever has been before, bigger than anything non-institutional traders could ever do. When you couple that with some massive stock selloffs filed by congressmen recently and some other news that's come out (FDIC meeting last year where they basically out-and-out said they have less faith in the banking and financial sector than the people that use it and questioned the legitimacy of making that information known to the public so as to prevent panic or a bank run) well - bulls are fucked. Hopelessly fucked unless they're longing something that would be profitable in a major pants-shitting market downturn.
But hey just call me a fucking schizo permabear if you can't handle the truth or make some dumb joke about not being able to read something longer than the instructions on a box of hotpockets as a backup. I don't give a shit. This is a warning.

>>53062154
Why does anyone ever care about Self Portrait by Rainbow? Timber's a good bear song.

Don't know about the mainstream though. That's all forced memes.

>>53062153
>>53062151
This was a few years back, the pitbull poster just reminded me of the story.

>>53062117
hurr durr, try to think about it

>>53062126
Sure, leverage looks great on the way up. You don't need an ETF to achieve that though.

>>53062138
i did that too and my cuban friend made fun of me :(

>>53061786
My grandpa used to tell me when I was younger that "if it floats, fucks, or flies, rent it" and I have yet to be lead astray by this advice. He also told me that he used to light Vietcong on fire and take bets on how long they would dance for though so take that as you will.

>>53062154
If I recall he did a concert in Anchorage, Alaska after 4chan rigged a voting contest for where his next performance should be - absolute Chad went and did it anyway. Then the internet figured out he's not a piece of shit and does a lot of philanthropic work with his money and it kinda blew up from there.

>>53062154
>i don't get it.
You will never be a chick magnet

>>53061877
>thumb_pepe-wanted-do-any-of-you-guys-have-the-pepe-71410240.png

>>53061545
Nigger they fabricated a strawman about election interference to gaslight and project about their own election interference. They were 100% conscious of the shit they were doing.

>>53062174
Sweet, i shorted with half at 395 and the other half at 403, up 30% currently. Crash the market jpm

>>53062174
So the most profitable trade will be to inverse that the massive short bets are all long. The Big Long or meltup so to speak.

>>53062174
You gotta love the only argument against the massive imbalance is "LE INVERSE THE SENTIMENT" retards.

>YOU NEED TO LEAVE THERE'S A BOMB IN THE CAR
>heh all these FBI agents think there's a bomb in my car, there's just no way

Its almost time to recall all our fun we had this year

>>53062174
JPM isnt even valued at a trillion dollars you fucking bear fuck they cant have a trillion in one play. LMAO

>>53062216
And do you think the fact that you don't trust your government is better or worse for someone seeking to capitalize at state-level game of thrones larping? Also, at no point did I attempt to absolve the fuckery. All of you retards are doing a lot of assuming.

>>53062230
You can hedge if you want to, you can leave your balls friends behind. Because your friends don't hedge and if they don't hedge then they're no friends of mine ;)

>>53062262
You need to look up the values of the equities market vs the bond market vs the derivatives market

>>53062230
Youre 100% correct, anon.
Theyll make a movie about us, naturally you'll be the Michael Burry type positon; played by Danny Devito
I'll be in the Jared Vennett type position, played by Henry Cavill.
OP will be in the Ted Jiang position, played by Jackie Chan (Broken English included)
>>53062262
Please just let the retards have their toys, they lash out less often.

>>53062272
and how does that change the fact that JPM does not have even close to a trillion dollars.

One nice thing about living in a tech industry focused city is that I'm often reminded that no matter how autistic I think I might be.... there are people around, even in my apartment building, who are definitely actually autistic

>>53062284
Because the derivatives market is valued at more dollars than exist. Something in the quadrillions

>>53062257
>everyone is long
bullish
>everyone is short
bullish, short squeeze, meltup

>>53062293
>who are definitely actually autistic
I live across from a guy (fat, older gentleman), who harasses the neighborhood new age shop. He writes on their door, and takes rocks from their outdoor rock garden. Absolutely autistic, of course.
Quite based, if I say.
>>53062309
>everything is pointing to greener pastures (markets)
Based.
Here's to you, lad
*raises cup*

>>53062284
>anon learns about fractional reserve banking and leveraged derivatives

>>53062343
cool it with the antisemitic remarks

>>53062306
The value of everything between bonds, stocks, and derivatives is about 2.4 quadrillion dollars for companies listed on american exchanges.
>>53062262
Kek, go pull up the options chain dumbass. They're balls deep in it and others are too. There's more money betting it do go down than ever before, MMTLP is going to resume trading on January 3rd and that's gonna cause about 300 billion up to a trillion in liquidations, the bonds market is actually burning to the ground, but hey bust my balls for trying. Lol, lmao.

>>53062342
>everything is pointing to greener pastures (markets)
Yes, it is. The market is down way too much and it isn't reflective of the underlying strength of the economy, the only thing justifying bearishness is dumb bobo rules of thumb that don't mean anything. Once the Fed backs off in Q1 the market will rip and then some - 5000 SPX Q2 '23, 6000 EoY '23.

>>53062262
>>53062280
>they think market cap has anything to do with fucking ANYTHING in banking
>what is delta
LOL yes JPM is using a cash account to take positions in the market.

Yeah but if everyone bets on the winning horse with good odds no one comes one really comes out that far ahead.

>>53062371
>cost of debt doubles
>wtf why market go down

>>53062414
Markets are forward looking they just over-reacted to the Fed. Look past the higher cost of borrowing now to rates back at 0-2% by EoY and don't miss the GENERATIONAL bottom

VIX just bottomed. Prepare your anus.

>>53062257
kek

>>53062423
Thanks for the laugh anon

>>53062423
Nice cope. Its a little stale 3 months later, but its still delicious

>most popular tickers
>all scam pumps 50%+ on tiny microcaps
>bioshits etc
Ive got a bad feeling

let the music guide you
https://youtu.be/n4QlmudB5yo

>>53062452
>Non-argument
So you're willing to concede to the fact that the tightening is nearing the end. And that, while a pivot might not be near, a huge rally definitely is?
Because we are NOT going to continue to dump. Feb23 will see a huge rally, when JPow talks down future hikes.
Cap this post, so you can look back on it and weep (for being wrong).

>>53062452
Yeah and the generational bottom was a month after that at 3500 SPX. Everyone knows the pivot is coming, the economy is strong, everyone knows higher for longer is fake news, only thing wrong with that post is that they thought the pivot was coming sooner than it did. It should've come in December but the Fed is dumb.

1m treaury still isn't 4.25.
The Fed lies to you.
When they actually start this latest hike things will go down farther.

>>53062494
If the market is future looking wouldnt it rally now believeing jpowbe forced to kneel? Hmmm??? Yet y
Instead its been stuck crabbing down

>>53062512
FRESH COPE! FRESH COPE!
See you at 330. Feel free to cap this

>>53062512
>The fed is dumb for not cutting interest rates to 0 while inflation is 7%
There's really something wrong with you people

I can feel the melt up in my bones

My framework for the oil market is simple. If there are giant red candles, that is the nigger Joe Setpoint Market Biden manipulating it with the SPR.

If there are giant green candles, that is the healthy, efficient functioning of a free market.

>>53062489
>ARKK +4.7%
everything is fine, just buy buy buy

>>53062538
Who gave cathie a gun??

>>53062494
We’re making a lower low, be in this thread when that happens because ill be looking for you

>>53062531
Annualize the MoM rate. It's well below 7% you dumb bobo.

>>53062531
Same thing that's wrong with the rest of the market at the institutional level and has been meme'd onto dipshits that listen to their interns in finance forums - it would be preferable to them for line to go up so they make more money regardless what the side effects are.

>>53062538
It is an end-of-year "fuck you" to bobo and the Fed. Will likely continue rallying defiantly tomorrow. Then dump in Jan next year when mumu realizes that gravity exists.

>>53062565
there is no helping you people

>>53062565
The rate was wrong to begin with.

>CHOPCHOPCHOP
wen chop sers?

>>53062577
Annualize it and tell me what number you get. It's well on its way to 2% already. Inflation is over, economy's strong, rate cuts inevitable. LOOK FORWARD.

OH GAAAAAWWWWD I'M GONNNA
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>>53062521
Actually a great point

>>53062306
retard
>>53062369
retard

>>53062556
>be in this thread when that happens because ill be looking for you
I'll be waiting for your cope post, come Feb 1st ^_~
>>53062565
They aren't willing to concede and be wrong. We know MoM inflation is dropping, and will lead to ~2.4% by this time next year.

>>53062565
> 2022, Biden- trusting government metrics

YNGTMI

Can we just pretend this didn't happen next thread?

>>53062592
only trade the first hour of the day, anon. that's when most of the volume is traded and therefore it has the highest probability of trending (i.e. actually going in a single direction).

>>53062423
>to rates back at 0-2% by EoY
pure cope. we won't have even begun loosing by eo23. It's this mismatch between market expectations and very clear fed guidance that guarantees we have a lot more to fall as people realize in waves that powell means business.

>>53062606
>by this time
Try by Q2. Again the fundamentals have been super bullish since the CPI print in October or so I would say. Should've been buying every dip since then.

>>53062512
It’s not that the economy is strong. It’s that companies are not responding to the hikes like they should. They think Fed is bluffing, or they think their market share is more valuable than it is (because years of free money habit). Rent and food inflation is still serious. I noticed food inflation resurgence in second half of December too.

>>53062619
Market expectations are right, Fed guidance is wrong and will change just like they changed in 2019. Rates are rapidly headed to 2% or 0% (recessionary case) either one is bullish.

>>53062593
Ah yes, you want me to annualize the last 5 months, like everyone else?

Just don't look at the past 6 or 7 months annualized

Or the last 4 or 3

fucking retarded nigger

There's a reason they look at YOY values instead of whatever cherrypicked values will cause your stocks to go up

>>53062634
Alternatively companies are right and the Fed (which fucks up constantly) is wrong, which seems more probable to you?

weekly flyer just dropped. inflation confirmed over

>>53062646
>lets focus on past trends instead of current ones
retard

>>53062647

>>53062647
No milkers today

>>53062646
>YOUR #S ARE CHERRY PICKED!
>NOT MINE!!!
retard
retard
retard

>>53062646
Just last month. It was like 0.1% in core MoM no? The trend is DOWN.

>>53062654
Tell me, what is the past 4 or 3 months annualized, isn't that a more recent trend?

>>53062656
>No milkers today
YOU HAD ONE JOB!

>>53062634
Consumer credit usage is also rapidly expanding as they believe the economy is still tight providing plenty of opportunity to negiotate wage increases. They are right. Its why higher for longer is needed. To restrain wage demand spiral.

>>53062654
Costco muffins are still over 6 dollars

>>53062654
I saw one item go up over 50% then back down to 0%. But a bunch of items up over 30% this past year, some over 50%, some 20%, some (produce) fluctuate a lot but seem up little overall.