/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>53049378
Anything IT. Data entry, front end dev, system admin, Helpdesk rep.

>>53049420
I applied to about 50 of these jobs but nothing, what gives?

>>53049420
I dont have any exp and i dont want anything programming related, but I am quite computer savvy, I understand the basic jist of computers and networks, along with the hardware and software side of them..
Helpdesk sounds comfy, is that helping boomers with their computer problems?

>>53049378
NEET is already a comfy WFH job

>>53049439
You probably have no skills, education, certs, contacts, person skills, interview skills, references, resume skills, or any of the aforementioned.
I've hired a few times in my life and most resumes from people below 25 are dogshit. I don't even bother reading them anymore.
>H-h-hey. Can I have, uh, a job?

>>53049378
Do you have a degree? thats a big one..

>>53049439
Damn.. That's demoralizing. You have a better resume then me.. Mine is literally nothing

What would you guys recommend me to do for a resume? Is there a fake resume generator or something?
I had a fast food job in hs and a car technician job thats it

>>53049492
I am 27 years old, i don't have any experience or ever had a job so i guess you're right but how do i find a job?

>>53049470
>Helpdesk sounds comfy, is that helping boomers with their computer problems?
Not really. Helpdesk is for large organizations with many employees that deals with
>Can I have access to this application?
>My timesheet glitched, can you resubmit it for me?
>My Word license expired, can you renew it?
>Webcam is broken, can you put in an order for a new one?
No programming or tech capability required.

>>53049513
No mine is actually nothing aswell, i've been a NEET and never had a job. I think we should do certs and then try applying for help desk, although a lot of helpdesk jobs are on-site and not WFH but it's a stepping stone until we do the harder certs and have 6-12 months of experience so we can get a real WFH job that actually pays well. Atleast that's the plan and i hope it works.

>>53049518
Start lower Anon.
You can't ask for competitive/valuable jobs because more qualified people also want those positions. You aren't the only one who wants to work from home and make money.
The problem is your mentality. You think it's easy and straightforward to get a nice WFH job with just a few simple steps. (Hiring managers hate this one trick!)
I'm sorry to burst your bubble but it doesn't work that way. Quit being a lazy faggot and out the work into getting what you want.

>>53049504
Ofcourse I dont.. Why would that be needed for basic stuff any computer literate person can do..

>>53049488
I know.. I need to have kids with my gf and have my real life begin though. Atleast I spent the best years of my life retired

>>53049492
>You probably have no skills, education, certs, contacts, person skills, interview skills, references, resume skills, or any of the aforementioned.
Yup
>I've hired a few times in my life and most resumes from people below 25 are dogshit. I don't even bother reading them anymore.
im 29

>>53049540
You will need to know the ins and outs of computers/computer parts and office/etc. They won't hire osmeone who doesn't know how a PC is put together or has any knowledge about windows or something. What really sucks is that these jobs are supposed to be entry level but every single one i have seen wants atleast 1y of experience.

>>53049378
>no skills neet
>comfy wfh job
kek. that's a good one. you might be able to get a wfh customer service job or something to that effect but it won't be comfy, they'll be tracking you to the minute and bitching at you if you miss metrics. you need actual skills and knowledge to get a comfy wfh job.

t. wfh accountant (i'm "working" right now)

>>53049577
Entry level jobs that pay minimum wage are asking for 1-3y of experience, it's over.

>>53049573
Damn we should start a neet recovery general on /biz/.. Im sure a lot of us are being forced to capitulate our neetdom due to the bear market.
My only other option is to sell stuff on ebay.. Or become a trade wagie and do construction..
I would rather be inside comfy though..

Anyone have experience with bring a "virtual assistant" ? Wtf does this job do

You get one of those hybrid jobs first and then when they notice you are decent, you can ask for full remote or something like popping in the office few times a year. Many jobs in at least here in Finland are like that, they are very open to negotiating once you have proven that you are not a total idiot. Also don’t make it seem that the only reason you want the job is because it’s remote.

I have had a WFH job in Finland for a while and traveled months every year. I am now relocating to Hong Kong for a new job because mainly so that I get the 0% capital gains taxes as I become resident, salary about the same

>>53049592
It's true though. Gen Y/Z being lazy and entitled is very much a cliche. But there is some truth in it.
Most of us just expect shit to fall in our laps. And the world slaps us each time.
Learn the lesson and grow up. You'll be better off in the long run. There's no free lunch. And there's no substitute for hard work, discipline, and luck.

>>53049592
Im about to be 28.. Lmao
I think we have to make a fake resume

>>53049602
>They won't hire osmeone who doesn't know how a PC is put together
Wrong. Helpdesk has nothing to do with hardware engineering. Your interview will focus on your communication capabilities and troubleshooting. Some boomer might create a ticket for you that is marked as urgent priority and you will have to investigate to determine if the boomer is just using the software wrong in which case you will have to walk them through the process, if there is an underlying infrastructure issue that is affecting applications which then you will route to the infrastructure ops team, or if there is a genuine bug in the application where then you will be the bridge and point of contact between the vendor that supplied the software and the boomer.

The annoying part is being on-call for European hours some times.

>>53049625
Stop asking other people to do your life for you.
Lie. Make up experience. Do what you need to do to survive. Your boss/superiors weren't honest in their climb to the top. So why should you?
Grow a thicker skin and put yourself out there. Stop being such a helpless bitch.

>>53049612
How much of your shift do you spend actually working? Im guessing they send you a company laptop that tracks everything you do?

>>53049692
The problem i see for that though, if you get the job that needs experience it might be very obvious when you have no clue what to do

>>53049700
some times i do 4 hours of work in an entire week. other times i'm pushing 40-45. on average i probably do 25-30 hours a week.

i have the same corporate spyware shit on my laptop as the wfh customer service wagies but no one has ever bothered me for doing jack shit if i have jack shit to do. my responsibilities are very different than theirs. i have a lot of long-reaching and complex deadlines that i'm responsible for. a customer service wagie is paid to take call after call after call after call for 8 continuous hours.

>>53049736
Of course. That's why I said he has no skills.
He can't even practice deception because he never tried.
Which is exactly why no one should hire him for any WFH job. He'll just shirk his responsibilities and not get any work done.
Most people's potential is retail anon.

>>53049650
People pay phillipinos 500 bucks a month to be their VA, it's not feasible for us. I don't think there's a lot of us 25+ year olds in this situation but there are some. Our road to recovery will be very difficult and painful but we must try.

>>53049689
kek your picture is exactly why i refuse to do nightshift security, yh it may be "comfy" but your health ain't going to be comfy.
Anyways the helpdesk jobs almost all require experience so i don't see how it's classed as an entry level job. But that's the thing with most jobs now, entry level and paying min wage or slgihtly above it and yet want experience and long list of skills and things, the jobs are demanding so much and giving so little. Where's the incentive for us NEETs to improve and change?

>>53049854
Yeah fuck that. Not gonna fuck up my sleep schedule.
Id prefer to work 7-3 M-F

Most of the entry jobs im seeing is fucking warehouse jobs im guessing theyre all for amazon.. Its over

>>53049736

If you were a virgin talking to some hot chick on your first date would you tell her you’re a clueless retard that’s never done this before? She’d leave. No you go to the bathroom and wikihow “sex” and “pleasing a woman”. You’ll still be clueless but not totally clueless. So you’d play it cool and ask her “how do you like it baby?”. She’ll fucking tell you. She will hold your hand, but only under the assumption that you’re being considerate, not that you’re a lying retard. Same way with jobs, just lie but not outrageously. Watch some YouTube videos, start some fucking thread on Reddit asking advice from people in that field. Offer to pay someone on fiverr to give you a QRD. Literally take drugs to cope with the fact that you’re an autistic mess and can’t survive or adapt on your own. But really just kill yourself, learned helplessness is unforgivable

>>53049945
Getting a good job naively as an average person is just as hard as getting some good girl to be your gf naively by just being yourself.
Thing about being a shut-in hiki neet is that you lose touch with people and you are not a regular somewhere.
Without being somewhere on the regular and being connected to some faction or person or group or "company" you have slim chances of getting anywhere.

The only way to be the beach night shift security is to get the job from the chief manager of the beach on an internal reallocation move from another job at the beach that is lower than security detail.
So if you want to work as security you have to "prove" yourself as garbage collector and disposal or bartender or waiter or misc staff.
The only way to do personal security detail is to be internally reallocated from other security positions by the boos owner or general manager.
(The only way to fuck random tourist girls at night on that specific private beach is to be on good terms or to be the security night shift personnel)
The only ay to be chief of security is to have years of experience as one unit security leader without incidents(disastrous failures not small random irrelevant shit).

>>53050051
Gonna fake my way into making 500k a year it google now, thanks!

>>53050091

You wouldn’t even be able to get a job at McDonalds. You’re a babyback bitch with a dipping wet pussy who takes a daily loss before you even get out of bed

>>53050084
I basically live a hikki neet lifestyle but Ive had a gf for a long time.
I was supposed to make it from link but the meme failed

>>53050121
I already worked at a fast food place. It was based cause everyone was a teenager and we fucked around and smoked weed in the back all day.
Cant do that now as a 30 year old boomer.

Before covid i was making 2-4k a month selling on ebay, being my own boss and working at my own pace, I might have to start doing that again cause all these basic jobs have fucked up conditions like working totally random days and hours, you know its bad when all of them say "thc friendly" cause without that theres no way amazon could get enough labor for their hellscape warehouses and delivery trucks

>>53049945
Yep, it's over man. Any jobs worth applying to will ask for a long list of skills that we don't have and years of experience. I guess i'll do Net+ certification to pass the time and resume applying in the new year.

>>53050084
This is very true and it sucks that things are this way. A NEET who has been out of employment for a significant amount of time is going to face a lot of difficulty trying to get back into employment unless it's soulcrushingly bad wagie jobs like amazon.

>>53050201
Not American but where do you source products? Alibaba? A lot of the chinese who sell on AliBaba in bulk also sell on Ebay for prices you can't compete with.

>>53049794
>>53049700
Man from what I hear (and I don't even work from home) they put fuck tons of corporate spyware on these work computers, even the one I'm using right now. Hey wagies who monitor our computers, if you're reading this, I don't give a shit hahahaha

>>53050201
Lol i woke up one morning and god just says to me "work for amazon". It was just really funny cuz amazon has like the worst reputation. He tells me jokes like that all the time. He said im a chosen jew and im the best and youre all my slaves lol. Fuckin rats.

>>53050389
hey ask god to give me some more money lol

>>53050459
You have to steal it, lol. God will be the first to tell you stealing still earns his kingdom money. You eat the stolen food, you grt a bit stronger, and you keep doing things and producing things. Just dont get caught, lol.

>>53049674
Fake resume is such easy shit. You make up 3 good previous jobs, then you find 3 friends who you know won't backstab you for giggles (it doesn't hurt to do a favor for them or even throw them a $20 for their time). List their numbers as the employer contact information. The recruiter or HR roastie calls your friend and will ask "Did anon work for you? Was he there between date/month and date/month?" All your buddy has to do is say "Yes Anon worked here, yes those were the dates". They aren't allowed to say anything else.

It's not illegal. It's the HR whore's own fault for not realizing the contact info you provided from your old job is a fucking normie cell phone number. Maybe if the whore wasn't so lazy she'd look up the phone number herself.

>>53050507
I know you guys are scared, but no help is coming =(

>>53050582
That's alright, I think god just kinda watches us and expects us to do what we have to anyways, kinda like how he just lets animals kill and eat each other because they have no other choice

>>53049518
Make up a resume and get some online certifications. I made six figures doing customer support with no real experience since it is easy to learn. Now I want to shift towards being a Zendesk Administrator and possibly double my income there. Just need to redo my resume, say I did this job in a contract role for years and use my previous employer who laid me off as a reference for being able to say I know the platform well enough.

>>53050640
Everyone says "just make it up dude" but it's not that simple. Especially when you're starting out and have never had a job. I can see how it would be doable if you already worked a job or multiple jobs and just increased the amount of experience you have but doing it at the beginning isn't really going to work, you will get found out. I'm working on the online certifications now but all decent jobs require atleast 1y experience so i dunno how i'm going to get that or lie somehow.

>>53049650
Make it happen.

>>53050920
I'd be down, we can pool our limited knowledge together and hopefully get out of this blackhole.

>>53050302
>>53050302
i can attest to this. i've been a NEET for years and could only get hired by Amazon. That said I've gotten used to the night shift and crushing loneliness.

>>53049492
based, zoomers are too busy collecting funko pops to want to work

>>53050841
Well in my case I got two jobs this year and the one that laid me off never asked for a reference. The second one did but my mom’s fiancé let me use him since he likes me and has his own side gig doing renovation work for kitchens and stuff. The most important thing is confidence in interviews and knowing most of the skills before you start. Email based support is easy since they teach you whatever this product is and you learn who to escalate technicals issues to while following policies laid out in the companies online support centers. Coding can take a lot longer but also pays more if you are good enough to land a job with all the recent competition in that area. Personally I think you always need to embellish yourself at least a little bit to stand out in since everyone usually does as well.

>>53050549
Is this true? All the fake contact has to do is say you worked there? They cant ask how their performance was or what they did etc?

Sad to see this faggot OP getting good replies and just replying with blackpilled retarded cope.

>>53051645
If he wasn't a helpless blackpilled retard he wouldn't need the thread. It's useful for people who aren't as pathetic as him but are in a similar situation and lurking.

>>53050841
Find some bankrupt companies that were based in the field you're trying to get a job in, put down skills on your resume that jobs you want to get list in their job description, use OpenAI to write a description for the jobs you "worked" at

>>53049492
Anyone have tips on what makes a good resume? I use Goldman Sachs sample cv and it looks good but I want to get to Jean Michel Basquiat level resume.

>>53051032
Shut up, retard. Nobody buys funkopops anymore. That's autistic millennial shit.

>>53050252
You are wrong. Definitely go for a cert but I've managed to totally circumvent all of those entry level experience requests by not being an autistic moron.

>>53052548
Dunno how you circumvented the requirement of x amount of years experience when you are a total newbie and only done certifications. It's tough but i'll see where it goes.

>>53049612
How's the accounting job?
Graduated with an accounting degree a year and a half ago but almost all accountants from /biz/ told me the job was miserable. So I kept my shitty paying but slightly comfy state park job

>>53052736
I just applied and didn't worry about it. My resume at the time had a single job for less than a year, but still got hired for 1-2 year experience req if I remember correctly.

Interview was cake. Perhaps I got lucky. Also, it wasn't a WFH come so maybe not as meaningful in this thread. Did have lots of certifications but they were bullshit from high school, irrelevant for work so I didn't even list them.

Getting a job can certainly be a challenging experience but I believe in you.

>>53052891
Well i guess i'll find out, not sure if i will go the lying route but maybe i'll have to if i apply to 200 jobs and don't get anywhere, thanks for the advice.

>>53052987
Lying is risky and immoral, even if it's to an institution, and even if both parties can profit from it immensely (assuming you try your best and do a good job).

However, God has witnessed all sin and Christ still hung. Do what you will.

>>53052839
my first accounting job was pure hell (audit at EY.) my second accounting job was much better. my third (current) accounting job is comfy.

>>53049378
self employed youtuber. just gotta find content bruh

>>53053142
The algorithm sucks and it's pure luck whether your content gets shown to people or not.

>>53053142
is there an audience for a 24/7 live stream of nature?

>>53049504
Not if you've got years of experience. I've only got a GED but I've got a comfy WFH job. It became WFH after COVID though so idk if it counts.