/biz/ - Business & Finance

When do I buy TLT?

>>53038462
Hmm... I was born in the year of the rabbit too
What does this mean for my portfolio?
For my love life?

is it safe to have anime booby op's again without getting jannied? did that change?

>>53038462
It will be 4 years until the next bull run

Haven't been here in a while. You guys losing money on anything interesting? (siga lol)

>>53038453
>Im a bit scared , its crabbing and oil cant hold $80 .
We will make it oil bro. Oil producers are already showing diminishing production. Cant find people, cant find materials. Oil is gonna be scarce for a while.

>>53038462
>rabbit edition.

I didnt sold my nvda puts cuz iam a based bobo .

>>53038462
Be nice to KO boomer or else

>>53038453
The freeze fucked over all kinds of refining and pipeline capacity. Brent is a more reliable indicator of fundamentals than WTI for now.

>>53038493
>siga
Oh hey, it made its way back to the "mpox nothingburger" price target. Neat!

Still waiting for AMZN stock price to dip down to $70 or lower before I buy those slurps. Looks like it might happen in Q1 2023 maybe.

Tesla is the greatest company to exist. I invested $15 million into Tesla at $540 per share and holding strong. I’m down $12 million and doubling down. I mortgaged my house and convinced my parents to dump their life saving retirement in the stock today. Price target is $2,000.

There are 7.8 billion people in the world. If each one of them bought a $80,000 Tesla that equals $626,960,000,000,000 in revenues. Tesla can easily take 100% of the car market share. Multi-trillion valuation baby. Shorts are going to get squeezed so freaking hard.

Tesla market cap in 2025 will be worth more than the US GDP and China GDP combined. Get ready longs. Tesla is the King stock. No better company to ever exist.

Put your kids college fund into Tesla and thank me 3 months from now.

>>53038475
Remember how the CEOs of GME and AMC worked to dump on delusional baggies with share issuance after share issuance?

The US treasury is doing that with bond auctions right now.

well buying natgas has been my biggest mistake of the month

>>53038526
Russia wont be allowed to buy tesla cars. how does this affect your valuation?

>>53038508
T boomer lost be $400 after months of that weak WBD shilling. But I was young and naive back then.

>futures

Natty Gas is shitting itself, so is the VIX what the fuck is going on?

How many eggs per day should I be eating?

>>53038548
his logic was WBD had Discovery and he liked Discovery television

>>53038524
The big boy stocks like amzn, msft and such all have further to drop. Lot of the big tech names will be even lower in Q1. We are still getting big drops despite inflation relaxing.

>>53038526
Hey Grimes. You look like you smell of mayonnaise. That is all.

>>53038548
That's ok, I've shilled plays here that would have lost people money. Except RESN. That company was bought out for a good price
>>53038526
Shit.

>>53038548
No, YOU lost you $400. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and take some responsibility for your own choices.

>>53038557
Bears were fucking wrong

>>53038559
50

>futures

>>53038588
Can you point on the chart where Biden sniffed your child?

>>53038559
5

Any real estate stocks I should be shorting?

https://youtu.be/-YWNipc3K80

>>53038561
Well I think television SUCKS. NXST has been a much better TV investment for me. They air lots of schlock that old boomers with miserable lives and nothing to do will consume.
>>53038587
Never. All my mistakes are someone else's fault and all my wins were of my own volition. Sorry ya gotta suck BUBBY.

>>53038536
It's just weather modeling plus, if you want an edge, standing outside Freeport and shouting at the workers to give you updates.

>>53038618
Redfin

>>53038603

How badass would it be if /smg/ had our own hedge fund?

>>53038655
Best TA i have seen here in yesrs

>>53038669
>badass
It would perform like ass

>Futures green again for some reason
Billie Jean is not my lover
She's just a girl who claims that I am the one
But the kid is not my son
She says I am the one, but the kid is not my son

>>53038559
Ooh, look at Richie Rich here, buyin' eggs.

Go fuck yourself.

>>53038669

>>53038228
Ukraine is rich in natural resources and fertile farmland. Most of world's neon gas is produced in Ukraine.

>>53038680
Lol, cope and seethe that orange man lost to that sniffer. Also, Donald said he wanted to date his own daughter.

>>53038669
About three years ago I made a watchlist for smg recommendations and a third of them have since been delisted. Most are down silly percents like 70%+ and one or two are even to slightly lower. None are big winners.

>>53038697
Hilariously enough a triple reverse gme, bbby, amc, tesla would have you rolling in cash

>>53038699
>Most of world's neon gas is produced in Ukraine.
The rest comes from Anita Sarkisian.

>>53038681
Its totally cool. Even if it performs like ass, Catherine has already lead the way. We just need to write a sternly worded letter and all investors would be ok with that.

>>53038699
And that neon gas is used for making lasers that are used for making computer chips.

>>53038699
Samsies with child porn and human trafficking.

>>53038699
>>53038722
The neon facilities have already been replaced. They were only in Ukraine because it was a really cheap area that already had a ton of steel production. TSMC they ain't.

>>53038587
when i was brand new to investing i was 20 years old and taking advice in a slack server of traders that seemed intelligent. i eventually learned that one of the guys i was kind of copying trade ideas from was a fat brown kid barely older than me. he shilled me a roll up biotech firm and lost me 10 grand in one day on earnings. In hindsight a harsh but cheap lesson to never trust anyone's advice and only yourself.

Who else going all in on puts for TSLA tomorrow? Free money here I come

How about investing in houses?

https://youtu.be/O4abw7JhYpE

>>53038743
yeah why dont you go buy some bonds too you pussy ass bitch. OPTIONS OR FUCK OFF

>>53038739
You are going to have to walk me through the logic of getting puts after a -11% day. I mean, yeah, it could continue tomorrow but...

Anyone know a broker that has lookback options?

>>53038701
I voted Democrat. I really wanted to see the democrats fall on the sword with inflation as we all know they have zero policies that actually help the average American. Its good that Trump was not the winner, one less thing they are able to blame on Trump. This is gonna be a fun 2 years ;)

>>53038736
They're not replaced yet. TSMC is only planning to find local neon sources.

https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/10/tsmc_neon_gas/

>>53038757
Check 1 month chart, it's been drilling down everyday. The start of everyday is the peak at this point lmao. I've been telling myself, "It's gonna bounce back hard any moment now". It's been 20 days and TSLA is down 80 dollaridoos in those 20 days.

>>5303654
This anecdote fits my view that TSLA decline is mostly dip buyers failing to catch the knife, becoming bagholders and capitulating into other dip buyers.
This could theoretically continue all the way down, although it's more likely we'll see a small dead cat bounce at some point before spiraling the rest of the way. There's simply no fundamental basis for TSLA trading where it was. There never was. It was all just bullshit flows and momentum propping it up as "passive" tried to force tesla into everything to leech the outperformance.
The true believer space god Elon cultists are irrelevant - they rode the whole way up and they'll ride the whole way back down, but now Elon's selling created a $20+ billion gap. Swing traders can no longer pull off their gamma squeezes. It's just dead money.

What's the play for tomorrow ? Should i keep shorting MRNA?

TSLA was doomed the moment Elon outed himself as a far right nazi chud.

OH SHIT BOYS

LOCKDOWNS ARE COMING BACK??

>>53038829
that's racist
like PLTR investors

>>53038778
I stand corrected. However everyone's had months to adjust, ordering liquefaction equipment, and it's trivial to stockpile the shit. Grain, slaves, and money laundering are the big parts of the global economy that Ukraine disrupts.

>>53038829
lol Biden doesn't like Xi unleashing tourist inflation.

>>53038829
Very xenophobic of Biden.

Lmao Tesla "bears" are such transparent short selling ignorant assholes. I'm not some Tesla fan boy or anything but damn you guys are ridiculous

I am surprised CMG has held up OK this year. You'd think with how expensive it is and how little you keep getting people would stop going there.

>>53038462

>futures

>>53038875
Kek baggy

>>53038883
I've heard and read a lot of people complaining about their local chipotles going to shit recently.

>>53038883
This post smells a little anti-Semitic. Can anyone confirm?

>>53038899
I hold zero TSLA. I just think the people talking shit on Tesla in 2022 are just as ignorant as people talking shit on Ford in 1922. It's so clearly retarded unless you're some brainwashed polarized dumbass.

>>53038897
Please don't objectify anime girls

>futures

What’s your new year resolutions, /smg/?
>invest $1,000/mo in mutual funds
>save an additional $2,000/mo
>no fap
>lift weights 6x/week
>establish a better skin care routine (moisturize + exfoliate)
>level up my wardrobe and dress better
>pamper myself with face, scalp & back massages 2x/mo
>invest in exploring different fragrances to find my signature scent
>take my wife to a date at a fine dining restaurant at least once per quarter

>>53038913
Im slurping some at a 4 handle. Definitely at a 2 handle

>>53038930
why mutual funds

>>53038829
Dumb idea. Whichever country gets the initial Chinese tourist wave will fare well in a 2023 recession.

>>53038930
buy a home at the absolute bottom.

>>53038883
They need to go the "fully automated McDonald's" route. Bots may be hard to train but they're easier to find than wagies.

>futures

>>53038913
Ford wasn't outclassed by cheaper alternatives in 1922 you dumb faggot

>>53038961
Every fast food restaurant, and probably even some higher end places, will completely switch to automated services as soon as they can afford to do it. It's an inevitability.


Oh and those automated services need a shit ton of semiconductors

>>53038462
I hope all the giant tech firms collapse to the fucking ground in one last mega crash like Tesla just for all these arrogant ETF faggots to get fucked in their fucking asses.
>umm sweaty there's no reason to pick good and solid companies just buy the market lmao

>>53038938
I’m following Dave Ramsey’s investing strategy of investing equally in 4 mutual funds which are large cap, mid cap, small cap, and international. He’s successful, so I’m copying him.

>>53038978
>Tesla is outclassed
>The competition is cheaper
Jfc you aren't even trying come on man

>>53038978
I love it when nazis defend other nazis while bashing another nazi. Very 4channy.

>>53038992
you aren't supposed to copy what people do after they are successful, you are supposed to copy what they did before they were successful

>>53038997
Imagine that tongue in your ass

Sorry about the markets bros. I just can't stop myself from jerking off multiple times a day to anime porn

>>53039011
I worked my ass off last year and I increased my income by 40k, but it took a toll on my health. So this year I’m focused on turning down the dial on my workaholism and focusing more on my well being

>>53038994
It's true. Teslas have shitty chink build quality and don't perform superior to competitors. The only feature Teslas have that other electric cars don't is that you turn on a feature where the car might randomly decide to kill you.

>>53038956
I don't think homes will bottom in 2023, pretty sure it takes years

>>53039028
it appears to be working for my MRNA puts, keep it up champ

>>53039032
Go one post without saying something clearly biased and I'll start to pay attention to you

>>53039037
the bottom will be caused by me, turning the screws on a desperate homeowner looking to get out of their underwater house and me being their last line of hope.

>>53038526

>>53039056
It's stock analysis. Everyone is biased you asshole.

>>53038557
It's cause I bought

>>53038476
Dont worry anon, this year you'll finally get a gf

Expeditiously.

>>53039103
Doomposting about Tesla isn't stock analysis, it's retarded shortsighted bullshit. I don't even think half the people talking shit are actually bearish on the stock.

>>53038978
Ford was the cheaper alternative in 1922, put all the artisan auto makers out of business

>>53039137
Exactly. I want to know what the argument is for Tesla dramatically increasing sales over current numbers

>>53039129
stfu elon

>>53039129
>retarded shortsighted bullshit
It's not Teslas have horrible quality control and the stock was at one point evaluated to be worth all of the other auto makers combined. TSLA is just a gamma squeeze stock and many have known this for a long time. Many aren't short because the upside is just as risky as the downside. But it's evaluation cannot be justified with it being some tech company spin-off that makes an auto pilot that kills people.

>>53039109
I hope so, but I can't even find a therapist

>>53039154
Have you noticed how, despite enormous cynical pushback and outright market manipulation, they are the only all-electric car company that is legitimately competing with legacy manufacturers? Bears are so fucking stupid, it's like you ignore this shit on purpose

>>53039177
whats your average buy in baggot?

>>53039177
>all-electric car company
lmao who cares if other companies don't JUST make electric cars

>>53039177
>they are the only all-electric car company that is legitimately competing with legacy manufacturers
>all-electric car company
and how many of those are there, exactly?

>>53039196
>>53039191
>>53039187
Lmfao look at you dumb motherfuckers pile on hahahahahaha

>>53039177
Why should I care that they don't sell gas cars? Just answer the question. What makes you think they're going to dramatically increase sales? It's not like their market share is growing.

>>53039200
I'm here to make money. It looks like you're losing money and trying to convince others that your decision to lose money was good.
It's not working.

>>53039177
>>53039200
I think you would enjoy wallstreetbets more than here. Like all other tesla owners and plebbiters, they enjoy sniffing there own farts more than thinking about how a company can have downside and how it grew so big in the first place. Also, you obviously can't handle the bants and it's killing the vibe.

>>53039201
Jfc are you serious? Are you either 14 or 80? Because otherwise I just have no idea how you've missed the inevitable shift to electric vehicles barreling towards you. Fucking luddites.

>>53038992
You should be stockpicking like Zoomer Buffett. He only invests in no cap stocks.

>>53039210
You have no "bants" you dumb fucking faggot bear, you idiots have shit up every thread for the better part of a year and it's getting really fucking old.

>>53039212
>$50k starting
>replace your battery every 7 years
>so you can impress your friends with how much debt you have
electrics may gain market share, but not mid-high end prices like teslas.

post. your. average. buy. in. faggot

>>53039201
>>53039226
Uh, aren't gas cars being made illegal in the dopey rich areas like California and Brussels? Normally I'd say they'll delay the bans further but we've seen how retarded they've been with the energy crisis this year.

>>53039226
Lol what kind of cognitive dissonance is it when you continuously accuse someone of...owning a stock that they don't own???

>all bulls are plebbitors
>all plebbitors deserve to lose their money
>all bulls deserve to lose their money, QED

>>53039212
>I just have no idea how you've missed the inevitable shift to electric vehicles barreling towards you
I laughed. Thanks.

>>53039252
Oh shit bears are way too far gone. Damn dude.

>>53039220
Wanna know whats getting old? Mumutards. Simple as. 31' 79' the other two years where the stonk market did as bad. Bobo won the year and mumutards will windowjump in 2023.

>>53039240
california also dropped $2 trillion into railways that still don't exist. you can ignore california legislation they'll never accomplish it in reality.
>>53039244
Was that so hard to say? You are awfully defensive for someone with no position in the stock.

> oil barely green

oil sissies i dont feel so good

>>53039226
>50k starting
>prices going up 15% a year on them due to cost of materials
cars are a luxury reserved for you know who

>>53039272
>The board’s new rules would also set interim quotas for zero-emission vehicles, focusing on new models. Starting with 2026 models, 35% of new cars, SUVs and small pickups sold in California would be required to be zero-emission vehicles. That quota would increase each year and is expected to reach 51% of all new car sales in 2028, 68% in 2030 and 100% in 2035. The quotas also would allow 20% of zero-emission cars sold to be plug-in hybrids.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/25/us/california-ban-new-gas-cars-vote/index.html

That's a hell of a lot of captive buyers. And this is the ultimate in cheap signaling for rich greens, not a NIMBY nightmare.

>>53039137
Fords YTD is almost as bad as tesla lol

>>53039272
Yeah and bears are awfully retarded about a company that is FINALLY trying to do something different instead of just building faggot Boomer mobiles. The bear case is so illogical and shortsighted it's honestly hard for me to take it seriously one bit.

>>53039290
Im just excited to see all the woke democrats sell their shares so i can buy them on the slurp. Nom nom nom

>>53039276
All will be well. Here, have a higher res.

>>53039304
we should be focusing our energy on creating the perfect AI for generating apus

>>53039303
That's a good point. A silver lining, if you will. Bunch of reactionary faggots.

>>53039251
Retail is bearish Bobo, consensus are bearish

bilichads we rise

>>53039312
There's no need to rush. Perfection is unattainable anyway. Simply enjoy what the world provides.

And long oil.

>>53039320
Any new certificate that enters my portfolio needs the blood of at least 3 retail traders on them before i buy them. My guess is i will start to slurp in August/September

>>53039303
If a good chunk of tesla sales are to woke tech workers, we could also see sales collapse.
I might pick some up at $60 but I'm not interested in trading falling knives.

>>53039289
is their government going to subsidize these purchases for the illegal immigrants who currently own $2000 honda civics?
the government can not legislate prosperity. Why not just buy a used gas car for 20% of the price from Nevada on the border and drive it to LA?

>>53039370
Already happened in the used markets for Tesla. Niggers are buying them as status symbols like they used to buy beamers.

>>53039370
>is their government going to subsidize these purchases for the illegal immigrants who currently own $2000 honda civics?
Well why wouldn't they? You're not a racist against Undocumented Americans, are you?

>Why not just buy a used gas car for 20% of the price from Nevada on the border and drive it to LA?
Plenty can, but guess what the increasing gas taxes and decreasing ICE customer base will do to gas stations?

I remember when QS was $100. It's $5 now.
Is battery innovation dead?

>>53039312
>>53039304
>>53039327
Buy silber

>>53039403
>but guess what the increasing gas taxes and decreasing ICE customer base do to gas stations?
Probably destroy california's economy and encourage more emmigration rather than their expectation of forcing everyone to triple their spending on electric cars.

They're simply going to push back the date 5 years when it finally gets to 2025. california does this stupid shit all the time, they never follow through.

test

>>53039429
pregnant

>>53039370
Cummiesfornia does not believe that poor people exist. It's the nation with 6th largest economy, how can poor people live in a place like that!? I've been using the poors point to anyone that shills electric cars. The most broke ass person you know would have to be able to buy one if you want mass adoption. Unfortunately the CA assembly don't know any poor asses so they keep pushing their drivel everywhere while the homeless ghetto near where I live gets larger and larger.

>>53039420
>they never follow through
San Francisco is an open air slum, woke shit is actually breaking the entertainment industry, and the world now has paper straws. California can do plenty of damage.

i'd like to be
covered in pee
with an olsen sister's booba
over me

>>53039443
We can go deeper
maybe weed bros will get salvation when san fran provides recreational weed free to all at no charge

>>53039444
Checked
Stick with minors. Miners.*

>>53039444
Where's poem anon?

>>53039304
Thanks anon

HIGHER

>>53039474
went to bed with an asian hooker working for the CCCP and they got him

>>53039462
conceptualize the aroma of onions and wussy

how to get cute Avatar gf?
all in RDA?

>>53039406
I personally knew a guy that put almost 6 figures into QS calls in late 2020. Everytime I've asked about him to people that know him they say he got evicted and haven't talked to him since.

>>53039444
Word Porn

>>53039513
lol damn that sucks

>>53039510
I WANT TO FUCK AN ALIEN! URGH I WANT TO BUST A NUT IN THAT BLUEBERRY! DONUT!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Peer to peer lending. Yeah

Is TMDX anon still around? Looks like they've been doing pretty well. I sold around 24 for a 15% gain. Should have held out.

>>53039533
I sold out of MAXR earlier this year :(

>>53039531
>Providing a bank a CD
>Except there is no bankruptcy protection for you
>and you are exposing yourself to both contagion risk to the bank
>and lendee default

>>53039559
Those aren’t realistic risks at all.

>>53039531
The only reason jews are letting you lend to niggers is because its a shit time to lend to niggers because they're going to renege (renig) on their debts in 2023.

Peer to peer lending wouldn't be allowed if the market were in good shape and you'd better bet your ass that once this economic catastrophe is over (2026 or maybe even later) that the kikes will take back the exclusive right to petty usury

P.s. fuck jannies for banning me. Also, I've got 75 0dte puts on SPY at 375 tomorrow. I think we break down hard at open and continue down past 370 at some point tomorrow.

>>53039562
on the risk curve prosper is one step below payday lending crack to inter-city blacks
and it doesn't pay like that endeavor would

>>53039563
jannies are in fine form lately

>>53039563
But they’ve been doing it for 15 years now. I simply done believe you

What do I invest in to respark joy in my life?

>>53039577
I’m sorry your prosper experience wasn’t good. Have you tried becoming a better investor?

>>53039580
What do you think about the $37k I am going to make tomorrow on my 0dte spy puts?

>>53039591
if we work hard enough we could pop the thot bubble

>futures

>>53038697
i need this

>>53039603
How are you viewing the futures? I dont see shit from s and p 500 futures when I google them.

Seems just like the normal crab.

>>53039591
Go to Brazil and buy a fart pass. Basically you go in a room and like 8 Brazilian girls come in and fart in your face. They are continually pumped full of air with a turkey baster thing so you have a line of farting asses continuously farting. When 2 are farting 6 are airing themselves up. I spent $3000 on it and it was worth every every minute. (30 minutes)

>>53039563
I think you just guaranteed we close above 375

ALL IS QUIET ON NEW YEAR'S DAY
A WORLD IN WHITE GETS UNDERWAY
I WANT TO BE WITH YOU BE WITH YOU NIGHT AND DAY
NOTHING CHANGES ON NEW YEAR'S DAY

https://youtu.be/Vvnm5tt4R4I

>>53038992
>Dave ramsey
>mutual funds
He shills mutual funds because he runs one. Just invest indexes that have a lower expense ratio and outperform mutual funds. Also that boomer ramsey will only make you rich if you yourself are already making a decent amount of money.

>>53038738
i don't think that's the whole lesson. it's good to have mentors you can learn from. but i wouldn't do that online. i wish i could find some trader types in my area now

>>53039615
>futures
is just an excuse to post a random image

>>53039638
>futures

>>53039420
>california does this stupid shit all the time

California made shoplifting de facto legal. They're handing out free drug needles and providing free places for people to do drugs safely. They're giving black and pacific islander women free money every month just for having babies. Now they're planning to give black people $230,000 each as reparations.

>>53039615
There's a link in the op
>futures

>>53038992
Mutual funds are completely retarded compared to etfs

>>53039655
You just have to pick the right ones. FXAIX has an expense ratio of like .01% compared to SPY's .09%. There are a lot of trash ones with high expenses and low returns but the really basic ones should be superior to their ETF equivalents.

>>53038743
have you been in other /smg/ thread today asking this? no, it isn't good

>>53039615
All i need to know that your puts are expiring useless tomorrow LMAO

>futures

>>53039725
>futures

Also how to into sexy tan line investing

I learned this holiday that now all of my siblings are trying to be influencers...

>>53038767
not me, google it i guess

Sigh age 40 edges ever closer. Under a week to go now. Could be worse. I could be a 400lb bald fat fuck who's almost 40. So there's that anyway. Guess its about that time to start liking the "rabbet food" they all push on you. (nasty) Kiss my pizza and burgers goodbye. (and bacon). Fuck. (I've never ate a salad, not once in 39 years)

>>53039756
how much to shit on your sisters chest? i'm not in dubai but i live in the desert, she won't be able to tell the difference

>>53038462
Holy fuck tesla. At this point an inverse reddit etf would beat an inverse kramer

>>53039783
She's not doing that kind of thing... that I'm aware of
She has a podcast about her career field now, or something... idk, I wasn't able to find it online
But honestly, our parents fucked us all up enough that I could probably get you a quote

>MFW I am year of the rabbit
I'll remember you guys when I get my billions this year

>>53039756
This is why we need a global depression. Everyone got too greedy and weird and it has to stop. People got so greedy that becoming an "influencer" is the top life goal of kids nowadays

>>53039781
One meal a day. No alcohol weekdays. Burgers every day.

>>53039718
Thats cool bro. Literally from now til mid feb its actually a viable strat to spend $1000 before close each day buying 1.5% OTM puts that expire the following day.

There are around 40 trading days between now and mid feb and we should see a retracement of the S and P to 340 or so.

This leads to a high likelihood of at least two 3% down days within that 40 day period. Meaning you will make over $30k USD at least twice ($60k), while spending only $40k, netting you a $20k gain.

What stock broker do you guys recommend for newfags? I want to get into options

I'm currently using Charles schwab for my boomer roth ira but I dont like the UI for options that much

How do I short Chinese demographics?

>>53039806

>>53038829
let's just nuke it from orbit

stocks will gongo up tomorrow screen cap this.

>>53039814
>I want to get into options
anon trust me on this, you're playing with fire, you don't want to get into options

>>53039683
Covered calls > piss in the bucket difference in expense ratios

>>53039813
SEXOOOOOO

But nah, if it were that simple everyone would be rich lol.

>>53038931
what's a handle?

>>53039832
I dont want to wait till I'm 60 to make it with my boomerfolio etfs

I want to give it a shot

>>53039813
Oh and yeah if there's a 5% or 6% down day you make like $100k on your $1000 bet. Certainly could happen.

>>53039806
In her defense, she has a good job. She's just trying to.... be influential about it.... idk why really. I didn't ask.
My brother on the other hand: he's been working incredibly hard for 10 years at trying to do anything other than normal work... and failing

>>53039814
Read the OP.

Remember whem Tesla's p/e ratio was 200 and boomers said it was overvalued? How long before zoomers learn to listen to fundamentals?

>>53039847
I read the op I'm just after anon insight too

>>53039814
not vanguard,

Their phone app is ass, and their new web interface is even more ass (especially on phones). Also they charge like a dollar per contract which is kind of high

>>53039838
Being a bobo is that simple right now anon. It really is. Once youve got the direction right, it's terribly easy to make money.

>futures

>>53039844
You're essentially basing it on, "yes it could possibly go down the next day". So it's not a strat, it's literally hoping you're right.

>>53039814
>newfags
>options
Don't gamble

>>53039855
The OP is made from anon insight

>>53039843
Buy as many spy puts dated to late january as you can at a 375 strike price.

>>53039856
The best part about Vangaurd is their etfs, which you can just buy from fidelity for free

>>53039852
I think never. they're still sperging out about NVDA dumping

>>53039822
I never thought I would, but I've come to completely agree with that quote. Everyone is a jerk nowadays and greed has a big part to play in that. Thankfully the Fed is dead set on crashing the world economy.

>>53039531
Isn't that just staking crypto? :^)

>>53039803
how much does she want to let you shit on her chest
get me a quote

>>53039871
I haven't read most of those links. I added ones that made sense and were more useful than some of the pastebins. I already has a broker when I arrived here so I don't know what any of those say.
>>53039814
As for brokers I have found that Schwab's options page is the best of the ones I have used. Hold out for thinkorswim.

>>53039863
It's a strat because you have an extremely high probability of 2+ days at a -3% drop in the s and p 500 over the next two months. Probably as many as 4, given retracements and re dumps. That makes it an excellent strategy, unless your retarded ass thinks that if you hope your position increases in value your strategy is invalid.

>>53039865
Let him, I had insane beginner's luck. I was up 400% within my first 2 weeks of trading options. Take it from me, once you're bigly up like that. Walk away, this shit has ruined my relationships and my life.

>>53039875
pretty much, but I like to think their stupid rules about not letting people buy leveraged and inverse etfs probably saved my portfolio

Pls stop coomposting bros. I want to make it.

>>53039886
>company is doing layoffs
>we have optional "training" we can do
>I take all the classes I can
>I turn in all my reports on time
>fags that got let did no training and were late
I literally talked with a coworker saying i'm going out of my way to look valuable and he just said fuck it, he'd take unemployment for a bit

Recessions cull the fat

Looking to do some trend trading more seriously next year using NNFX.
Still looking for a decent exit indicator. Might be able to fuck with a momentum or reversal indicator, but not sure what a good one might be

>>53039832
>even when I am right
>take a less degen option (deep itm)
>still get fucked
I bought $13 puts on mpw expiring january and its down 50c from when I shorted it last week and I am STILL DOWN.

>>53039873
>>53039899
You said OTM puts expiring the next day, if you're talking about longer dated puts that's completely rational

>>53039903
I'm at fidelity and don't have a single complaint, their customer service is actually insanely good, and if you want to trade options or leveraged ETFs they give you these massive warning pages telling you not to. They still let you but they try to scare the shit out of out not to do it.

>>53039909
Id rather take UI too. Fuck paying into this kike ridden system.

I wish I could get laid off.

>futures

>>53039907
You're ngmi. I've realized, nofap makes me very bad at trading. I fapped my dick off last night, and today I am 10% up. I haven't fapped tonight tho, so I will lose money tomorrow.

>>53039907
top right of webpage, go to settings
somewhere in there you can turn images off
you won't miss anything important

>>53039926
Super methhead cook vs zero tipper

>>53039501
He was the best of us. Lets find that bitch.

>>53039886
>>53039909
I've been working a PT job at Walmart for 7 years and I'm among the top 15% of the staff there, though it's admittedly a pretty low bar. I can show up late by a bit a few times a week and they're just thankful I didn't call off, and I can support most of the staff. I even got first aid and forklift certifications for free, which eventually led to a $0.40 raise. I work in Ontario and get about $17.20/hr, which isn't a ton but it's consistent the stock program has been good to me during that time. I'd say 99% of the coworkers live paycheck to paycheck, even some of the assistants have families and rely on the stock as a nest egg to go on vacations, instead of just compounding it for years. I have 70 shares at $90 cost basis

>>53039926
Epic catch.

>>53039563
gl nigger
i got 12 350 feb puts right now

>>53039926
can the nigresses at least have some class at the fucking waffle house? An American institution deserves more respect.

>>53039926
>that block
bros im in love

>>53039615
your brokerage should give you that data

>>53039944
this nigga forklift certified and he working at wally world instead of slaying pussy on the streets, what the fuck is wrong with you
>these are the people giving you financial advice

Issue with lotto tickets is the cost of contract creation. You end up paying a 10% fee

>>53039955
Just be thankful that webm doesnt have sound.

>>53039822
>just crash the economy bro

>>53039844
how often do +/- 5% days happen

>>53039212
next you'll try to tell me there is a climate catastrophy going on and that the world will end in ten years unless we strip mine half of Latin America and enslave all of Congo.

>>53039962
Hold on, anon. I'm not universally certified. I can only use Raymond-Johnson equipment, including a sitdown frontload counterbalance truck

Scoopsies owes me sex

>>53039919
Either works except you are more vulnerable with a large position in longer term puts.

If Jerome comes out and says its pivoot time, or Brandon fires him to put some pivoot kike in there, then you lose a lot in your held overnight long term puts with high premiums.

The 1dte option eliminates the large risk to your initial position and merely relies on there being at least a big down day or two at some point during a worsening recession.

Not a bad idea from that perspective. In fact it is a fairly strong one from a risk-reward standpoint. Low risk, high reward. I suppose after 40 days of no dips over 2% on spy that would kill your account balance but.. lets be honest... how likely is that?

It turns out, you can tell by looking at the history and volatility numbers. Guess what, I am going to make fortune ;)

>>53039944
Checked... Keep at it anon I have a cousin who has worked at Walmart for like 30 years and he’s pretty high up now and for what some people say the people that stick with it end up getting paid in the end. His wife (my real cousin) is a some high level radiation technician and they make bank combined like over $400k a year together and bought a new construction house with cash last year and are always going on weeks long vacations

>>53039972
yes

>>53039981
You owe us an update

>>53039985
You can move up pretty high and quickly at shit companies like McDonald's and Walmart if you aren't a complete fucking idiot. Generally those types of places are staffed entirely by retards.

god, if we ever go back to 0% interest rates, I'm going to debtmaxx myself to hell and go all in on SOXL or something

will it ever happen again in our lifetimes? or is the 0% interest rate experiment over

>>53039910
Don't overcomplicate it. You need intuition but use a simple guideline like pivot points, moving averages, RSI, or if you catch the same pips as the ATR. Some may do 2x ATR.

>>53039973
3% is all you need. And it should happen at least twice in the next two months.

If one of them is over 5% youll get yourself a 100x bagger.

Captcha M4SDXY more money in spanish bros

>>53039997
You're probably right. /smg/ has sunk so low we are reaching the point of it being oversold. Thats when the content gets good again

>>53040010
The Fed just swings wildly between the two extremes. We'll be back at 0% (or even lower!) by the end of 2025. Once savings account interests rates start going under 1% again, that's your signal. Until then, you're going to have to gamble on the fluctuations of the crab market...

>>53039984
You might be onto something. Smaller position size, but martingale it.
>1 contract, misses (11$)
>3 contracts (33$)
>9 contracts ($99)
>27 contracts (270+)
Etc but a 3x might ramp too fast.

>>53040010
Son, when we end up being forced to use the forbidden technique you'll be screaming when we get to 0% rates

>>53040004
lmao. Doesn't mean they promote based on merit. It's the same political nepotistic environment you see at any other workplace. You have to play the social manipulation games to move up the ladder

>>53040021
i'd almost consider buying calls 1dte before a cpi report, the way the last two were played

>>53040010
next comes the negative rate experiment

>>53040010
we have been having a few too many once in a lifetime events in the past few decades, I think we are doing the economic equivalent of a vehicle continuously overcorrecting until one direction and the other resulting in wider and wider oscillations.

What I am trying to say is, all those jokes I made about the fed using negative rates in 2020 are probably going to be reality at sometime in our future.

>>53040010
It will come back. The kikes always hyperinflate when the move hosts. This time, they're leaving the West and moving to China.

>>53040031
That's largely true for any company though. It's just way easier at low tier places. There is really no "merit" at McDonald's or Walmart. Your are either competent or not. One of my good friends literally was in special ed in school and has been offered a promotion at sam's club many times. He turns it down because he's apparently perfectly fine making $17 an hour. I've considered getting a job at McDonald's and climbing the ladder just to dab on complaining zoomer NEETs.

>>53040028
Yeah that would work. Especially during crabs... like right now.

>>53040021
You're right, if there is any 3-5% movement, it's only gonna be towards the downside. Might aswell keep playing puts until you just land it since it should theoretically recoup your losses on wrong bets which has low likelihood anyways. Might do puts tomorrow, was thinking TSLA but will look into SPY now.

>>53040004
>>53039985
It's true, we had some young guy who moved to our province from California about 3 years ago, and within one year, he was being trained to be an assistant manager. I'm an INTJ and like being creative, so I find trading and such more engaging than overseeing a bunch of idiots running around. I've lost my temper a few times too, and I think it would reflect very poorly if I was in a managerial role and it happened, so I never really pursued it. I do try to help out with odd jobs like backroom and admin stuff, but those roles are fairly well covered, though I do get along with everyone.

>>53040017
The NNFX system was designed for forex/CFDs but can be applied to other markets as well. It uses ATR, has a baseline, two confirmation indicators, a volume, and exit indicator. Roughly, I've found that using SSL (semaphore signal levels) with ATR and Hull MA to be a really strong starting point. Just need to filter out bad trades on backtesting, tweak it for a few different asset classes, and then I can start forward testing it for a few months.
Side note: it also risks 2% account size on a trade, SL at 1.5x ATR, TP at 1.0x ATR (where you sell half and let the win continue to go).

But from what I've tested, it will usually miss the entire peak/valley (picrel) and exit way later than it needs to. Eg, from entry to peak was 46%, but when my exit finally triggered, it was back down to only 18% profit on that trade, which is not ideal. I don't want to call the top/bottom, but I want a reasonable exit where I don't just lose half my profit because it's slow. I'll take a look at the ones you suggested and see if they're useful in my system

>>53040030
>>53040044
>>53040053
I must prep my credit score for the debtmaxxing then

>>53040076
>more engaging than overseeing a bunch of idiots running around. I've lost my temper a few times too
The worst part of management is dealing with the bottom feeding dregs of society you have to manage. We need to bring back beatings in the workplace

>futures

>>53039902
What do you do now? Just swing trade and long term hodl?

>>53039781
>I've never ate a salad, not once in 39 years

>>53040030
Historically, when were negative interest rates used? What happened, and how do you trade it?

>>53040053
Likewise, why is the US no longer the best place for them to dig their greasy talons into? I wouldn't mind investing in China, were it not for the substantial jurisdiction risk. I don't even want to touch YINN or YANG half the time

>>53039781
I'd rather be a hamchad that dies younger than a lanklet that clings to life munching on kale.

>>53039860
What level of male astrology do you use to pick your strike price?

>>53039907
I'M COOOOMMIIIIIINNGGGGG
AAAAHHHHHHH

>>53039932
NAMES NOW!!

>>53040112
They've already subverted our culture and stolen our wealth and ruined our demographics.

There will be no more growth in the US. Only more and more crime and worse and worse taxes and administration as we descend into a cross between Brazil and South Africa. And oh yeah, that's all after a hyperinflationary collapse.

The kikes just won't want to live through what they've done here.

>>53040143
Anon those are 2 dudes...

>>53039933
I would rather be a wagie working at Kohl's or Walmart before I miss a single cartoon frog posted here.

>>53040156
GIVE ME THE NAMES OF THOSE 2 STRAPPING YOUNG MEN

>>53040112
Japan and many EU countries have employed negative interest rates for a while. You only go there when shit is giga fucked. At that point you'd be better off going all in on intl markets because the US market would be dead if it went negative after being this high.

>>53039902
>>53040101
NTA obviously, but I got approved for options this year and signed up for level 4 options (eg ability to write uncovered contracts, need $25k minimum balance). I was generally fairly careful with those, but most of the time I ended up pissing away like $3k this year (a good chunk of that was from trading fees, as well). I'd suggest trying to get a broker that doesn't fucking charge $10/trade plus $1/contract.
I understand the greeks and how you accept risk on some to receive reward on others (eg shorting delta but long theta while being gamma neutral or whatever), but I often just used it to trade on leverage and made stupid trades that I had no business trading (0dte, ERs, etc etc). I think looking at option flow and volume can be useful as well. Most of my gains were from selling covered calls on UUUU while it ranged between $6-9 this year.

One thing I might try doing is when I swing trade stocks, I could buy eg 200 shares and when I hit my TP, instead of selling 100, I'd just write a deep ITM CC for the extra premium. Not sure how that's pan out, since swing trading is supposed to be trend-based and you wouldn't hold it for a long time.

>>53040146
>There will be no more growth in the US
Most countries have declining birthrates, though. This was a huge factor for economic expansion during the 70s and 00s if I remember correctly, so if there's a general population, stagnation, decline, or idiocracy-tier failure, then we'll crab at best for the next decade, or just slowly bleed off value. Not sure how long-term holds will do.

baking !!

>>53040124
You maximise profit by buying around -1.5% down from the current price on 1dte puts because if you see a 3% leg down in a day, you make roughly 1.5% of the S and P 500 price in a day per contract, so around $500 per contract. And if you bought those contracts at EOD the prior day, you probably spent around $20 per contract. 50 contracts costs $1000.

This means you make roughly $25000 off a $1000 investment in 1dte calls. The return is bretty good.

>>53039933
you'll miss my amazing charts

>>53040172
I ought to read up on some more financial history, then. I know Japan has had negative interest rates for a while and it forms the basis of carry trades on forex (specifically yen/kiwi pairs) which is what, 3-4% on the interest rate spread historically? Of course, you'd have to hedge the exrate with a forward contract so you're net neutral and can enjoy the spread for the duration.

>>53040182
Puts. I meant to say puts not calls.

>>53040101
I just scalp during big moves, I used to be more about it but after fucking myself over and over again. I keep a hard cap limit on myself to only operate within a certain time frame within the day, make profits by then and just not even look at the charts until everything closes.
>>53040131
Cupkatez on ig

>>53040173
>>53040173
>>53040173
>>53040173
baked !!

>>53040156
damn surgeon's got game

>>53039563
> Spy puts

Based , gl bobro