/biz/ - Business & Finance

Just realized the new kook is out

Toastin' in a shiny bread

State of the stack: 10.4 ounces of gold, 206 ounces of silver, 1.5 ounces of platinum. Over $22,000 in fiat.

>>53025683
Why is it at a bank anon? Not bein' snarky. Genuinely curious.

>>53025699
For safety. It isn't technically a bank, but it is a very safe and secure place. I don't want to keep it at home in case I get robbed.

>>53025683
>206 ounces of silver

>>53025683
>(((safety deposit box)))
NGMI

>>53025763
What is an ideal amount of silver?

>>53025765
What's a better alternative?

>>53025779
Me personally? If im sitting on 10 ounces of gold id trade/sell 5 of them and pump the silver number up to 500

>>53025800
No way. Have you seen the price charts of gold and silver for the past 20/30/50 years? Gold outperforms silver almost every year.

>>53025787
A secret place. When the time comes where you need your metal the bank jews won't let you have it.

the thumbnail looked like that image of a bunch of women blowing an airhorn into that guys ear

>>53025822
Those 20/30/50 years have been a fake ponzi which is now ending, charts mean shit, where we are going, there are no roads.

>>53025800
I have thought about trading in my kilos and ten ounce bars are converting them into 100oz bars though.

>>53025787
Don't live in a neighborhood you have to worry about getting robbed or hide it better. You wouldn't keep a generator in a safety deposit box, or emergency rations, or your ammo, so why would you keep your gold, silver, and cash. Its doesn't make any sense, if you can't reach out and touch it when you need it then it may as well not exist. Your stack, your cash though so you do you.

>>53025861
Way more dodgy shit goes on with silver. Do dodgy things go on with gold? Sure. However, silver is manipulated so much. It would take an astronomical amount of people buying physical silver for their to be change. Considering we had two years of record demand for it and nothing changed, it is extremely unlikely that the future will be different for silver.

>>53025866
If I am away for a few weeks from home, criminals can break in and spend days trying to find my safe. I guarantee you, if someone threatened you with a gun and demanded to open your safe, you would open it. I live in a safe neighborhood, but sometimes a person with bad intentions stumbles into the area.

>>53025472
Anybody else concerned about the future of gold? Ever since Trump introduced the Digital Trump Card Game I've seen boomers entering my local coin shop daily and selling of their gold and silver collections. They all say the same thing; Imma buy those groovy new Trump cards! Imma buy some bitcoin too! Trump didn't want gold for his cards so why should I stack?"

Trump wanted cash and bitcoin for his cards so all Trump fans have lost faith in gold and they're all selling their gold now.

I'm seeing that it's accelerating and soon gold will go down to 800 dollars an oz and stay there while Digital Trump Cards will become the new gold.

>>53025909
The price of gold is dictated more by institutional investors, not people like you or I. It would be very difficult to get gold down to $800 an ounce. The Trump digital cards are a fad so I wouldn't be concerned about them. With that being said, I have heard bullion dealers are seeing boomers selling their collections to buy cryptocurrency. Unfortunately for them, most will lose a lot of money.

>>53025909
Not concerned about Gold one bit when you see what the Russians and Chinese and the rest of the brics+ are doing with it, im more concerned with anons still thinking Trump isn't controlled opposition especially after telling people to take the genocide jab.

>>53025909

>>53025905
If someone can break in and spend days in your house with no one noticing or caring you live in crackhead central in a city or you live in meth head central in the country either way not a good area. Find a nicer area with better neighbors, a good community goes a long way. If someone threatened you with a gun to open your safe you didn't hide it well enough or you are talking to much for your own good and you let word get out where it was and what is in it. Not trying to rag on you but I just think keeping something that could be life changing in case of an emergency, shouldn't be kept across town, locked up, where you access is restricted by the whims of others.

>>53025888 checked
>it is extremely unlikely that the future will be different for silver.
Gold intrinsically linked to silver. BRICS hoarding gold. Dollar circling the drain. Yeah, nothing to see here.

>>53025970
>Russians
Dying in Ukraine
>Chinese
Still dying from Covid in 2023 KEK
>rest of the brics+
IQ India: 81
IQ South Africa: 70
IQ Brasil: 83

Wow! These countries are a total threat to the US hegemony of the planet!

>>53025991
Let's face it, it is always in the media of people losing their valuables in a break-in. I have never heard of anyone losing their valuables in a safety deposit box. It is more likely to be stolen by a thief than a business/institution.

crypto nerds will seethe

>>53026018
>Russians
Doing just fine
>Chinese
Faking virus to close ports to further fuck the west in 2023 KEK
>rest of the brics+
Smart enough to hoard gold in preparation of the USD shitting the bed.

Wow! You're a paid shill wasting your time and are no threat to those of us who will continue to stack until we're priced out of the PM market.

Not sure if this is the right thread, but I’m starting to get into buying precious metals. Is there any recommended safe styles or brands to store things? Thanks.

>>53026057
https://www.usgoldbureau.com/news/fbi-seized-safe-deposit-boxes

The people that lose valuables to break ins are the people who have jewelry boxes on thier dressers and gun safes sitting, unbolted, in the living room. There are thousands of ways to hide a safe in a home that no one would think of checking.

>>53026057
>I have never heard of anyone losing their valuables in a safety deposit box. It is more likely to be stolen by a thief than a business/institution.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-09-30/judge-backs-fbi-beverly-hills-safe-deposit-box-raid

Ended up with a 10oz round from a mine for Christmas. Got the wife 2 sunflower earrings from mene, she was wearing them today so I put these in their place for photo.

>>53026117
Generally, you get what you pay for. I'd buy something with fire protection that can be bolted to the floor and put it somewhere hidden. Under your bed or in your closet is not hidden. You'll have to be craftier than that.

>>53026136
>>53026143
I don't live in America though. Secondly, if people are storing illegal items in them, of course the police will take it away.

>>53026167
>sorry anon but your silver and gold hoarding is a terrorist act that threatens the sovereignty of the state

>>53026167
>storing illegal items in them, of course the police will take it away.
You didn't read the articles.
>Your stack, grease down the drain jpeg.

>>53026207
1) How does the institution know I store gold and silver in my safety deposit box? They can't open it.

2) That rule you mention would also be applicable to people who own a safe at home and store their gold there.

>>53025472
Lads, many threads ago I asked which coin I should keep in my wallet for good luck and I finally found one I like, so here it is. Merry Christmas brothers

>>53026229
>institution knows you store valuables with them
>opens box
>lookyatwhatwehavehere

Why would anybody know I have a safe and store anything in it at my house?

>>53026222
I did. It literally states in the article that the business were conspiring to launder money and drugs.

>>53026229
Stop typing stupid shit and read the fucking articles.
This is the last (You) you're getting from me, fuckstick.

>>53026246
Valuables can mean many things other than gold and silver. Secondly, the institution can't even open my box. Only I can. You assert that gold and silver would be illegal in your previous comment. If that is the case, even the gold you have would be illegal. How could you sell it if it is illegal? It would affect everyone, regardless of where you store it.

>>53026235
A man of taste.

>>53026271
Unfortunately the antique milan coin was sold out but I got the shiny milan one and the Jesus Christ one. Very pretty coins

>>53026247
If you read the article you would know they "suspected" some clients and maybe some employees where doing something illegal, they didn't have proof, so they opened over 700 boxes and confiscated the contents of every box worth more than 5000 dollars regardless if the box was owned by one of the people they thought might have, maybe done something illegal. At the end of the day though its your stack and your money, so you do what you want with it, it doesn't have any effect on me I just don't agree with it, doesn't seem smart to me.

>>53026252
No, you read the article. The business was literally a front for criminals to launder drugs, money, and stolen goods.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-04-02/fbi-beverly-hills-vault-search-seizure

>>53026266
>oh gee wiz only I have the keys to a box located on a bank's property, that means it's literally impossible for them to get in!
Who says I'm selling it in such a scenario?

Your naivete is going to bite you hard one day.

2.5 gram bar of au looks so pretty I’m just gonna say it

>>53026284
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-04-02/fbi-beverly-hills-vault-search-seizure

There was no 'suspicion'. They were literally a front for criminal activity.

>>53026143
The bankruptcy caused by the bond market collapse is going to have governments DESPERATE to plunder anything not locked down.
Trust no one. It looks to me like the system is literally built on Ponzi-scheming the masses. We give them real labor/resources and they give us IOUs tucked away until we are 65. EL OH FUCKING EL.
Everyone and their mother is going to be stealing EVERYTHING once we all learn that every single thing we call "wealth" just crumbles to dust in the face of scarcity and inflation. The only way so many of us ever had a "free lunch" was leverage sloshing around in stocks and real estate. Your wages are nothing more than arcade tickets to be spent at the prize-booth. Do you own capital? Do you own gold? Do you own real estate, heavy machinery, factories, tractors, backhoes? How about oil, copper and silver? I bet much of your "wealth" you imagined being spent on arcade-ticket tier spending. Consumption, services, vacations?
Guys, don;'t you see? Our whole lives are being rented to us! And the capital we do buy via stocks is so overleveraged that they're all guaranteed losses! 17x P/E ratios?! People buy that TRASH for their future??
Uhh. wat?

>>53026289
1) It's not stored at a bank

2) Storing goods at a vault is undeniably safer than keeping it at home.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-01/wheelie-bin-used-to-steal-bullion-from-a-brisbane-home/5181294

>>53026310
semantics
And if you store your valuables in an easily accessible place in your bedroom, you have nobody to blame but yourself.

>>53026292
To be fair thats not the article I linked, the one I linked stated they only had proof on one person for criminal activity everyone else was just them taking a wild guess.

>>53026310
>Trust us goyim, the media says so!
Also,
>Aussie
AAAHAHAHAHAAHAAA

>>53026310
Doesn't matter how "safe" it is if you can't access it when you need it, it may as well have been stolen or not have ever existed to begin with.

>>53025909
>never happened
>terrible bait
Please kys your stupidity is a detriment to my existence

>>53026299 checked
I try to tell people this sort of thing. Just like I tried to tell them the plague was bullshit. Most are NPCs. I store my labor in hard assets that I physically hold. Fuck the idiots that can't think of anything beyond the next sportsball game.

>Instantly up 10 cents upon opening
We're not done yet this year, are we?

>>53025683
>Safety deposit box
Still counter party risk. I suggest splitting your holdings just in case the building gets robbed by the FBI.

>>53026310
If you have a metric fuckton of PMs and people may know about your holdings, your #1 safety measure is keeping it stored in MANY locations.
Bank vaults are a viable solution for diversification, but I would NEVER trust a bank. Banks are undercapitalized and they WILL recapitalize themselves with gold revaluation.
I don't think this will be a minor event. I bet it's more akin to a smash-and-grab.
Guys, I literally can't stress enough how MASSIVE the liabilties are. The system, and not even the entire WORLD can make good on these bogus promises.
Trust yourself. We'll all look back on these posts and actually be amazed at how spot-on we all were on the situation, but then still dangerously naive in other regards. The normalcy bias is what is going to give us the WORST whiplash.

>>53026167
You can be put on a terrorist watchlist by Asio (cia) in Australia for having more than two weeks worth if food in your house or using a VPN. They can make up whatever laws they want. Recently the Canadian government restricted access to personal bank accounts of non violent non threatening people who didn't agree with the government.

>>53026299
>Your wages are nothing more than arcade tickets to be spent at the prize-booth

The savage truth in it all. They are very pretty receipts though, like goldbacks.

>>53026465
Really? Putting people on a terrorist watch-list for having two weeks worth of food in your house? What world do you live in?

>>53026470
This is something that has my head spinning. I work my ass off and barely get 1 ounce of gold's worth of money per paycheck. Most of that goes towards bills, etc. But the actual "savings" I accumulate on a weekly basis is so marginal that it need'nt be considered capital at all. It literally is "arcade tokens". I can have food, dining experiences, alcohol, maybe a nicer car or a piece of furniture or whatever. All of it lands within the realm of "consumption". I do not actually acquire capital, but simply produce work and labor to consume.
The NPCs do not understand this. They acquire capital only passively via retirement programs. And even then that "capital' is ponzi tier payments. No one is expected to extract their retirement and ask for it in commodity form.
I feel like there should be a more concise word for what I am saying here. We are being pinned between poverty and meaningful savers to foster us as a consumer-slaves.

>>53026495
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LTtripsg5U

>>53026532
wow you're a richfag

>>53026532
It’s called working class. You work.

>>53026495
Pretty sure they used hoarding food as an excuse to kill people under the Soviet Union
"Hoarding" gold (as in people cautiously saving in the utter shit economy the stock market crash caused) was the pretense FDR used to criminalize private gold ownership
Tyrannical states hate based hoarders because they prepare ahead and won't be dependent on bread lines to comply, which is precisely why you should hoard God's money (Gold and Silver)
>>53026465
Geez, I didn't realize Australia was THAT totalitarian. VPNs are one thing (you know, ignoring the nearly limitless legitimate uses most VPN usage is used for) but having food in your basement? I know some boomers that have an entire room of their house for preserved food, you absolutely need it here in Florida because sometimes Hurricanes can knock out power for weeks at a time.

>>53026562
It's not just working class. I have friends who are doctors whose schooling put them almost a million dollars into debt. So even the upper middle classes are being deferred into this "working class" for possibly decades while they pay off overpriced houses, cars, student loans, etc before they ever begin to accumulate capital. Even upper middle class are pulled into the tar of "working class".
Any thoughts to add?

>>53026532
Lets be real here anon, there's nothing wrong with fiat currencies until the greedy and corrupt get their hands on the printing machine. Unfortunately this happens every fucking time throughout human history because it's in man's nature to take more than what is needed. NPC's are not interested because they are of good nature, plus most people today live really comfortable lives than they did in the past so just ignore the criminality at the high level. The reality of the situation is that for honest money to prevail there has to be comfortable societal systems for it to thrive. That means providing examples of off grid living standards that are better than the ones that come from the state or multinational corporations. If you don't do that then what does honest money have to really offer. Also you'll be surprised how many people prefer security over uncertainty, it's the sad reality of it all.

>>53026601
Just stop paying for shit you don't need, it's literally that simple.
Stop paying for those monthly subscriptions, your carnote for a 5 year old shitbox vehicle when you'll be much better off with a 20 year old Toyota that literally just works, your $1500 phone that society brainwashed you to update to the latest version every single year, and all the other consoomer shit that Hollywood nigger culture embraces the masses with and you'll be suprised how much you can stretch that paycheck.

>>53026011
>Gold intrinsically linked to silver
I've never had a satisfactory answer to why this is a thing. Maybe when currency was commonly made from both metals there was a relationship, but there is no reason they have to be related today.

>>53026651
I'm extremely frugal. I have acquired capital through sheer grit and the view from up here is astounding.
>>53026619
The problem is the whole nation is running by creating an IOU that is twice the size of the U.S. GDP. We're all about to be burned big time. Not just, like, a depression, but literal collapse. The world is pivoting away from America and the paper ponzi can't work without nonstop goods flowing into the economy.

r8 my stack
just started in November

>>53026714
Don't let those wieners get milky...

>>53026405
This. If I were desperate enough to use a safety deposit box, I'd just buy SLV.
They can't seize your metals if they don't actually exist.

>>53026689
They are related in their use as monetary metals.
They have an existing above ground supply. They have in-ground deposits, we have annual production numbers, we have demand figures etc.
There are plenty of ways to look at the relationship between the two. If we said silver comes out of the ground at 8:1 compared to gold that could illuminate some factors as to a fair price.
I think the big thing you are hinting at is the increase of industrial demand for silver. It is unprecedented the technological advances made during the last debt bubble.So there is a good case to be made that past valuations of silver no longer apply. The puny price tag it has now is literal peanuts compared to going to the grocery store to buy eggs for $4 per dozen. THAT comparison sort of bends reality.

>>53026495
The real one. The one that is Australia. I have to read legislation for my job.
Fucking basic google skills evade you I see. I won't spoon feed you. Or you could be happy in your ignorance and believe I went on the internet and just told lies. Inconvenient truths or satisfying lies. It's your choice.

>>53026754
The question he asked was perfectly fair, you just sound like one of those shitty "Google the forum relevant question dumbass" forums

>>53026747
Yeah, but no major governments use them as monetary metals anymore. There's no reason gold and silver have to be linked anymore.
>$4/dozen eggs
Hey, I'm not saying the silver price isn't suppressed, I'm just saying that there's no reason it has to follow gold anymore.

>dood safety deposit lol

>>53026601
Capitalism works for the rich. Not for you.

>>53026780
>Yeah, but no major governments use them as monetary metals anymore.

>>53026582
Australia maintains some of the most restrictive Internet policies of any Western country and over the past two years has taken steps toward a nationwide mandatory Internet filtering scheme. Its neighbor, New Zealand, regulates the Internet considerably less rigorously. Australia’s constitution does not explicitly give the right to free speech,1 and in fact contains a clause giving the Australian government ‘‘communications power,’’ allowing it to regulate ‘‘postal, telegraphic, telephonic, and other like services,’’ including the Internet.2 A number of state and territorial governments in Australia have passed legislation making the distribution of offensive material a criminal offense, as the constitution does not afford that power to the national government.

from the open net initiative

>>53026821
Could be the same group or a different one, said Australian government censorship of the internet rivals chinas

>>53026767
Fucking learn english cunt

>>53026799
Okay, I'll trade you four quarters for one of those dollars. I'll even give you silver quarters. Just because a major government PRODUCES a monetary metals, doesn't mean it USES them.
Kind of like how your body produces sperm?

>>53026849
>Fucking learn english cunt
You first retard, you forgot the apostrophe between "english" and "cunt".
Calm down.

How long until our revenge /pmg/?

>>53026860
1209600 seconds

>>53026799
Oh, and since you are so smart and not a nigger, can you explain that, since we're taking about the relationship of silver to gold, how the gold eagle is fifty to one silver eagle, but the GSR is over seventy? If you even had a point, then wouldn't the GSR be fixed at fifty? Or are you just a Dunning Kruger retard who needs to find people on the internet who he thinks is wrong so he can feel smart?

>>53026858
>apostrophe
Those are commas, spic.

>Okay, I'll trade you four quarters for one of those dollars. I'll even give you silver quarters. Just because a major government PRODUCES a monetary metals, doesn't mean it USES them.
Kind of like how your body produces sperm?
>Oh, and since you are so smart and not a nigger, can you explain that, since we're taking about the relationship of silver to gold, how the gold eagle is fifty to one silver eagle, but the GSR is over seventy? If you even had a point, then wouldn't the GSR be fixed at fifty? Or are you just a Dunning Kruger retard who needs to find people on the internet who he thinks is wrong so he can feel smart?

I got hundreds of these. People used to sell them for next to nothing because they didn’t like the emblem and people didn’t want to buy them

>>53026885
so 2 more weeks?

>>53026470
My wife just said about the note's design, "They've been very kind to him."

>>53026922
Based, have a pile picture?
And funny about the premiums, now they're some of the priciest circulated 20th century silver out there because people want them for that reason, lol

>JUNK SILVER UNDER x20 FACE VALUE
>GET IT WHILE YOU STILL CAN

>>53027040
is that actually a good deal on 90% ?

>>53027070
Anything under 22x has been a pretty good deal for a whilenow, anything under 20x is a VERY good deal. 90% used to be the cheapest way to stack silver in bulk, now it's one of the most expensive ways. I'd absolutely jump on that.

>>53027017
BoE did the same with Elizabeth.

>>53027111
>I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of one pound
Pay in what? Pot Metal coins? Why do they use this language on their banknotes if it doesn't mean anything?
Or is there something about British Money that I don't know?

>>53027145
For the record, that's a really old BoE note, like the first of its kind since decimalization in 1971.

>>53027145
You're right, that's the same language US gold and silver certificates used to "promise" the actually good coins the notes substituted. Now federal reserve liabilities just say "this is legal tender" as in "please don't question it".
I guess maybe a pound of apples or bananas at the supermarket?

>>53026271
Man, I love the great wave.

saw the small discussion about colloidal silver in the previous thread and it got me wondering, is there any reason for using silver rods instead of coins?

Silver be bussin’ frfr no cap

>>53027236

>>53027237

>>53026714
not bad but trust me when I say coins > bars
the only reason I don't regret buying my plain bars is that I got them at a good price pre-covid, I'd rather be all in on coins
If you're Austrian as your choice of bullion suggests, you have nice gold restrikes to choose from that should be widely available at a low premium (the coronas/ducats)

>>53027070
>a good deal
Relative to the prices it has recently commanded, yes. In terms of silver, no.
One dollar of worn ('junk') coinage yields about 0.715 ozt. At $24.00/ozt spot, that would be $17 and some change. So the markup here is about 15%. Not horrible, but I'm not running out to load up on it.

Look I want to buy some gold, but I just don't know about stashing it away like some jew. (I have 3k to invest a month)

>>53026714
>Weiners
Wake me up when Austria starts making Jew-proof coins again.

Hello boys

>>53026651
This can help a lot. I but a new phone maybe every 2-3 years if not longer. I pay for Hulu but that’s for my mom. Starting to eat in a lot more. Find shit to watch online when I want to see something. Smoking is chewing up my cash that’s not good or guns and ammo.

>>53026383
Elaborate on the plague thing please

>>53027545
it was poisoning from recent volcanic activity
pathology isnt real

>>53027412
all but the silver ones have ridges so get a gold or platinum one instead of complaining.

>>53027412
i don't get it

>>53027632
Google 'coin clipping'

>>53027676
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/2013-11-17/ty-article/.premium/1278-all-english-jews-arrested-by-crown/0000017f-db8e-db5a-a57f-dbee03bf0002
lmao

>>53027632
Long story short kike nigs would clip or shave coins made out of shines to make a whole new coin.
>TLDR Jews being shifty kikes as per normal

>>53027584
Personally, I believe both the germ theory of disease and terrain theory of disease have great merit.
After all, living in a dirty and unhealthy environment is an incredibly obvious way to get sick. We've all seen and experienced it in some form.
But on the other hand, I've gotten weird viruses from being around my kid nephew after he went on a cruise ship or being around family that had a sickness despite no other apparent changes in my lifestyle. This bizarre happening is very adequately described by the germ theory of disease.
It's too limiting and dangerous to assume only one can be true. And thus, I believe working out, having a healthy diet, and staying clean with anitbacterial silver-based hygiene is a manner to stay in high health.

Sooo.. nobody gonna mention silver violently breached 24 right at the opening and is alrdy at 24.20?

£20 broken, the bull run begins

>>53028430
To a point it is, but the real breakthrough is £21.15 which is currently the highest the price silver has been in recent times. The highest was back in 2011 over £28 an ounce.

>>53028430
Lets not be too cocky yet, fren. The moment of truth will happen at the end of the month once the december deliveries are settled. So in 3 days we should see some big price action, and it could be in both directions.. but if it's on the upside? We might witness 28 bux within a week.

>>53028221
Sudden drop and then cheepies fren

>>53028502
I know, also the pound was worth a fair bit more 2 years ago as well. So inflation adjusted it would need to be ~ £24-25 to beat its pandemic high.

>>53025909
Now that’s a new kind of FUD.
Problem is: even trump fans disliked his stupid NFT money grab, so you gotta redo it in a more plausible way. All in all:
5/10, shows promise, but try again.

Anons, I need you advice: I’m tempted to fomo into some more silver, and the lowest premiums I can get are 5 DM commemorative coins. Problem is: they’re 625. Is that even silver anymore? I suspect that’s the reason they’re so cheap. Probably the more modern 925 ones are better.

>>53026136
Really, though?
I’d be interested in some data on that. Generally, it seems that security by obscurity never works. If you think
>hey, that’s a good spot no one will find!
There’s a good chance that someone else will also have had this thought process. And ready made products like your pic related? I’m pretty sure any pro thief has all safe manufacturers catalogs at home and will probably check this specific mirror first.
Not saying that it’s impossible to hide something, but I’d guess most top secret locations are anything but.

>>53028545
It's a poor guy's inflation. Imo only retail prices are affected. I will call it an real inflation when gold, silver and farming lang is affected. Also MSM is pushing the inflation narrative way to strong.
The reality is that retail runs out of money dueto artificially created high prices.

>>53028970
I would give maximum 3/10 regarding the slaughtered crypto prices atm. Good intention but way too late.

>>53025585
Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree
Merry, merry king of the bush is he

>>53027410
Is this a question or just some stupid fud? If it is a legitimate question, try to articulate it in an intelligible way.

>>53029001
If you can't outsmart a smash-and-grab crackhead, you probably are not going too make it anyway. It is WAY easier to protect against theft by street criminals than by institutions like government and banks. Your home, your securities, your bank account, your pension, your registered vehicles, all can be confiscated with the stroke of a pen and you can't do a damn thing about it.

>>53026229
they totally spaz out when you mention a bank box here. its a good choice imo.
https://youtu.be/F-fFXdCWLkI

>>53029001
>I’d be interested in some data on that. Generally, it seems that security by obscurity never works. If you think
>>hey, that’s a good spot no one will find!
>There’s a good chance that someone else will also have had this thought process
Just put it under the floor or under the loft insulation. They're usually aiming to be in and out in minutes with xboxes etc or might check cupboards for guns, empty drawers out onto the floor. Taking the house apart in the hopes there might be a stash of gold under a floorboard is way too much.

Bonus points, leave some fake bars somewhere obvious, like a bedside or office desk drawer.

>>53029438
>mentions schtick

>>53029438
>they totally spaz out when you mention a bank box here. its a good choice imo.
Female wording choice, bank boxes have been opened in the past by for example law enforcement and in event of an emergency your PM's are now unreachable. Don't hold it don't own it

holy fuck the autism on this board
>>53026229
>>53025683
look man, we don't need to keep posting up news articles or debate the security of crackhead home invasion vs shitbag government faggotry. you're sticking your fiat/pmgs in a box that's not in your control. period. the government can do whatever the fuck they want. they can seize your tin box without reason and make up some half baked one later. the company that has your tin box has zero loyalty to you and will turn their back on you the moment it's in their best interest to do so. what are the chances of this happening? pretty low. until it happens. and I guarantee they're not gonna be blasting news articles about it. it speaks a lot about your character as an adult if you're continuing to trust an institution after they've proven to be untrustworthy since the dawn of civilization.

>>53026601

>>53026229
lol
lmao even

>>53026780
They're linked because silver is physically 15x more common than gold, or at least it was until recently, it's a physical matter, not one decided by the governments.
Now silver is mined in 8x higher quantities than gold, and the above ground reserve ratio is unknown, currently there could be only 5x more silver than gold considering all the industrial usage of silver that cannot be recovered at all.

>>53029569
Based. They really did pull a 'switcheroo' on us. Luckily it is all coming to an end as the exponential nature of the IOUs has to be paid back plus interest and the ponzi is going to be too obvious as the years plow ahead. The tax cattle are tapped out, the states and government are tapped out. There is little else to steal at this point.

>>53029379
> If you can't outsmart a smash-and-grab crackhead, you probably are not going too make it anyway
True. However, if you’re living somewhere where crackheads are an issue, neither are you!
Those are already stopped by a good, locked door. It’s the folks that can open that door I’m worried about.
>>53029457
Yes, easy to protect against those. But what about professionals? Those that scope out when the house is empty (like now, I’m on family vacation) and have a guy outside, watching out if someone’s approaching? Probably won’t take hours, but I’d guess those guys check all those obvious spots.

>>53029622
>currently there could be only 5x more silver than gold considering all the industrial usage of silver that cannot be recovered at all.
but still the price is currently around 1:80 in G:S ratio. People say that is because of there is more demand for gold, but even then. Have counterarguments for that?

>>53029624
>There is little else to steal at this point.
And that's the point when the reaction comes hitting back and one way to get rid of it is to literally get rid of the creditors (the ones who are giving their wealth to the system). That's why wars are happening, that's why they invented some plandemic and are using an injection to kill lots of people, that's why they're trying to manufacture a famine.

>>53029760
Because the paper silver price is manipulated and the manipulation ends when they have no physical silver anymore to back the price they're imposing.
That's the whole point behind hoarding lots of physical silver, to break the manipulation and you'll also have massive gains.

>>53029762
I believe it. It is obvious that unfunded liabilities are ungodly in size and the elite would LOVE for every person over 100 just drop dead IMMEDIATELY. Ideally they want you dead the second you stop working. They stole it all and assumed control over shit they can't deliver.
Knowing the state of the fiscal health of the globe had me refuse the vax on its face. The people in charge started two world wars, did 9/11, bankrupted America spending trillions to slaughter people in the Middle East. They wouldn't think twice about killing all of us the second they think they can get away with it.

>>53029641
I'm not going to spend much time on this because you have obviously made up your mind. But Home security is a multi-layered affair. You start by living in a good neighborhood where people are on the lookout for folks who don't belong. Then you get to know your neighbors so they will notice and respond to something like strangers casing the house or standing watch. Get a house-sitter for extended absences. Harden your perimeter. Implement surveillance. Shut your mouth. Be creative. Seriously, if real professionals have targeted you and have hours to spend in your home trashing everything unmolested, YOU did something wrong along the way.

Is now a good time to buy palladium? Seems just a tad over gold spot now, and I remember it being 25-30% more expensive just a few months ago. Worth it? I know the premiums are trash, but I really want a palladium eagle

First thing I'm gonna do when my stack moons is get a St Kitts and Nevis passport

>>53029641
lol anyone approaching my rural property would have to have balls of steel, I've intentionally made it pretty scary.

>>53029641
In what world are you living that robbers have hours to just meander around your home unmolested, and not just any robbers but professional safe crackers that have had days or weeks to sit in your neighborhood scoping out and planning a heist on your home unnoticed? I mean do you believe you are James bond? Do you have an arch nemesis? Is your name Dr. Venture by chance? I mean what is going on where you live? Oh and follow on question I meant to ask earlier, you said your safety deposit box isn't at a bank so what business are you trusting it with?

Ok I grabbed a picture of the sunflowers from mene today. Are the other mene anons still on here?

Lmao fuck deposit boxes, just bury your silver like 2 feet deep in an obscure and hard to access location, if you have a healthy BMI this should be well within possiblity.

>>53025585
already ordered lile 1-2 weeks ago but 30 WORKING DAYS expected delivery is killing me

>>53030245
nice sunflowers anon. he's my Pt.

>>53030321
Is platinum Anon? I really need to take more new photos but my old stock will have to do

>>53030110
>In what world are you living that robbers have hours to just meander around your home unmolested
america

>>53030368
beauty! yeah its platinum. i wore it for a while but its a mite too delicate for me. switched to pic related, .925 silver.

happy CHRISTmas and new years anons. I just wanted to say thanks for getting me into PMs. Also thank you to Yukari poster for being the reminder I needed to get GuP off my backlog and finally watch it earlier this year. Such a comfy series.

>>53030386
Very nice, I'm not big on wearing minus my ring but I've thought about getting a gold chain for the fuck of it

>>53030369
I'm American, I've lived in the city, in the country and in multiple states, I've never once been concerned with professional safe crackers, staking out my home, planning a heist, and wandering around my home for hours on end all while never noticing any of it. So again where do they live and what kind of life are they living that they not only have professional safe crackers around but being targeted by them is a legitimate concern for them.

>>53025472
where do you buy golld in a third world shithole

TOP G IS MOONING

>>53030606
Go team Venture!

>>53030746
Fuck, I should have brought a sovereign a few weeks ago instead of just holding out for the new design at the end of January.

first time poster in pmg, which should I start stacking, coins or bars?

>>53030871
henlo, depends which country you are from because of VAT

>>53030888
USA, are the online stores in OP's post legit?

>>53030871

>>53030932
>USA, are the online stores in OP's post legit?
Ah you are lucky then, some states do have some weird laws regarding PM tax so watch out though. The links in the OP are legit, use https://findbullionprices.com/ to compare and find the best prices for you. Don't go all in, remember to dollar cost average in.

>>53030836

>>53030888
>>53031111
Checked

>>53031110
>PM tax
is that for when I do my taxes at the beginning of the year? or is it like a sales tax?

i hate banks

>>53031258
>is that for when I do my taxes at the beginning of the year? or is it like a sales tax?
Oh I have no idea about that, what I meant that as an American you for most states you don't have a sales tax (VAT) added to your purchase, so it should be cheaper compared to buying in Europe for example, but ask the other Americans here how it works

my quarter came
going to go get a torch this afternoon and see if i can burn off the red spot
pretty good deal anyway

>>53031258
Some states charge sales tax on all orders, others charge under a certain amount (usually 1 or 1.5k). And some states are based and don’t charge sales tax on any bullion.

not quite a quarter size
i have the gold merc, now i have to get the standing liberty i guess

>>53031502
*walking

Just bought my first hardcore numisfag piece at 350% over spot
What am I doing

>>53031399
>>53031502
Nice coin

>>53031652
Post a pic, or at tell us what it is.
Here's a recent one for me...

>>53031652
Post coin? If it NIUE shit kys

>>53031682
>NIUE shit
Whats wrong with NIEU? :|

>>53031682
>>53031672
prooflike 20 zlotych

>>53031721
Very nice - Congratulations, Anon!

>>53031404
>>53031393
So I did find out that Florida has a 6% sales tax on any coins/bars transactions that are 500$ or less

>>53031742
thanks m8, will post pics once I get it

>>53031721
You haven't got shit on me, I paid €200 for this 1 ounce of silver.

>>53025472
Where can I buy PM's with (((crypto))) in the UK? Chards is (((KYC))) unfortunately.

>>53026286
It doesn't matter whether it was or wasn't. What matters is what evidence the police had before conducting the search. According to that article, the evidence they had was from unnamed sources and an undercover cop who asked about the business. If such little evidence is needed to steal every safe deposit box in a bank, what makes you think the government can't find a couple of unnamed witnesses to say your bank does the same?

Store your bullion however you want, but I see it is a form of savings outside government control. That stops working the second the government can control your bullion, as they can when it's in a bank.

>2023 mints still have queen Elizabeth on it

>>53031875
It's like cars. They start production the previous year. There's going to be a 2nd issuing of 2023 coins with Charles on them.

>>53030871
Only stack bullion coin bars or you will regret it.

t. veteran stacker

>>53031721
Holy shit, thats a handsome coin!

>>53031704
It is the funko pops of silver. Some look ok but idt 3x spot price is at all reasonable for this POS
>picrel

That said, if they release silver 40k coins I might buy ._.

>jewelry?

>>53031704
>Whats wrong with NIEU?
Alot of their designs are beautiful and desirable. Except for the fact that they insist on putting a Lizard on every single one.
For some of us burgers in particular, the Lizard is not something we want to have on a bullion bar, or round.

>>53030871
My copypasta answer responds with, "Here are some options to consider" so you can decide for yourself.
- When a new series of artful or themed bullion (especially coins) is issued, the first of the series are usually missed by later collectors. They will pay high premiums to fill in the series. Consider the potential for series' popularity: generic and/or cringeworthy-themed series are less likely to appreciate above spot.
- Low-mintage series are often priced very high, but may increase in price the most (consider design popularity!).
- Gov't-issued coins cost least while minted. Once the mintage stops and dealers run out of stock, the prices jump then rise more slowly but still faster than generic silver. Maples, Eagles, Wieners, Britannias, etc. are all nice but boring. The mint may add a privy to add novelty thereby ginning up the price. Stuff that changes overall designs from year to year become series (Somali elephants, Canadian Wildlife, Australian kookaburras or koalas, island nations' series, etc.).
- If you buy pieces that appeal to your sense of art, taste, and interests, you will still appreciate them even if the price or value of the PM goes nowhere. Caveat: if you go to sell, it's harder to part with them.
- Some beautiful generics are priced comically high (Germanias, GSM special editions, e.g.) - they don't follow the market trends as readily, garnering peak price only while fashionable. Be aware: dealers may categorize and price these as "generic" (meaning below spot) when buying them from you. Or the gamble might pay off as they become very popular (Englehard, PAMP, antique miners/refiners, e.g.).
- For new generic bars, watch the markups over spot: premiums (added charges) go up for smaller pieces.
- Shipping is an added premium. Many vendors offer free shipping for purchasing a minimum amount (commonly $200).
- Keeping a spreadsheet of your purchases to track profit/loss is quite revealing and will help you make future decisions.

>>53031994
>jewelry
Yea speaking of I’ve been trying to find a decent deal on a gold chain with a bar pendant and I’m having no luck and making my own pendant would be a pain in the asshole
>Pic related

>>53031875
>2024 mints should have Lizzie on them

>>53032161
2nd Liz best Liz

>>53026465
What if I just have a shitload of rice.
I mean you can't last longer than 2 weeks on that regardless of how much you store.

Gold fingers - 8lbs worth
Gold connectors - 2 lbs worth
Gold corner bgas - 620g worth
Gold plated heat sinks - 20lbs worth (still in shipping though, should be here by Saturday)
Total yield should be on the order of 12 - 20g after processing. Going to rain the next few days. As soon as it clears up, I'll start processing. Will try to keep the thread updated as it goes along.

>>53032559
Aqua Regia? Ive got 300 old candy bar cell phones ive stripped down to PCB and fingers. Only prob is I can only find Muriatic Acid here, so Im gonna start by doing a heated nitric soak for several days and then leave it to soak for couple weeks after that. Filter and go Aqua Regia after that. Keep us updated on how its going.

>>53030955
Tempted by these low premium coronas... Want to start my gold stack but unsure if I should premium max or just get a single type of coin like AGEs. I remember an anon recommending stacking one single type of gold if he had to do it again. Have a good variety of coins in the form of silver. Gold stackers any thoughts on variety?

>>53026229
I made the mistake of vaulting my PMs in college.
BullionDirect.com. Owner stole all the bullion and vault was emptied. I lost only 4 Libertads. But know of people that lost 100s of Oz of Au. They got back pennies on the dollar in the settlement.

I use
>picrelated
I have 2, one being a dummy safe behind a picture hanging in the office. The other I wont tell you, but its hard to get to and 24 inches behind a wall (all my walls have foam filling and BBs sprinkled in the foam to throw off metal detectors.) You should have a dummy safe like, I filled it with bars of Nordic Gold and Aluminum, polished to look like Ag and Au bars with some reams of $1 bills ($300 to be exact). .

>>53032717
Low premium when buy means under spot when sell (usually)

>>53032723
forgot pic

>>53032717
Premiums should carry through regardless of spot fluctuations. Buy what you like. Build the stack *you* like. If gold moons, the few extra bucks you paid will be chump change.

>>53032717
Well this is the thing when it comes to coins, premiums vary and different regions of the world have different benefits. I'm not the best person to ask if your pick is the best, but at a glance it looks like you've gone for a solid choice for your first coin.

>>53032742
>I will ever sell my PMs outside of SHTF scenario
Makes sense though - I like the idea of having some smaller fractional gold but it’s hard to stomach the premiums on 1/4 AGEs.

>>53025991
>If someone threatened you with a gun to open your safe you didn't hide it well enough or you are talking to much for your own good and you let word get out where it was and what is in it.
So just speaking from second hand experience, my father grew up in a nice neighborhood. One day, when he was a kid, some socioeconomic-factor-Americans stalked his brother back to the home and took the entire family captive for about 6 hours. The entire time they kept asking "Where's the safe?" My family was really confused because they didn't have one.
You see, basketball Americans believe that if you are white and have a clean house that you basically live in a mansion, and movies taught them that mansions have safes in them. So they tore all the paintings off the walls. Then they ripped up all the carpets. They moved all the furniture. Bashed holes into the floors and walls. Basically just destroyed the house looking for something that wasn't there.
It's difficult to imagine what a criminal would do because they're generally idiots and emotionally imbalanced people. This is a concept called "donkey space." You think you're being clever because you hid your gold in a tricky spot. It doesn't occur to you that they'd set you're entire house on fire to steal 1 ounce of gold.

>>53032717
P.S. - It's usually worth it to check out silvergoldbull before actually buying from JMB.
Their inventory fluctuates a lot, but when they have the goods, they almost always beat JMB.

>>53032868
So have two safes - a dummy and the real one?

>>53032623
The fingers, connectors and bgas are gonna start with HCL and H202 to dissolve all non pms and separate the foils from the substrates. After that the foils will be collected, the stripped fingers discarded, and the bodies and substrates of the bgas put into my furnace to be ashed. The ashes will be processed via another hydrochloric wash, drained, filtered and washed with water. All of these products will be added together into a 2l beaker, and AR will be added to dissolve the gold.
I haven't decided whether to do electrolysis or chemical stripping on the heatsinks yet. I need to receive them to determinevthe generations of cpu they came off of, thus telling me the relative thickness of the plating.

>>53032723
>dummy safe
>dummy stash
brilliant

>>53032723
Don't feel bad anon. I lost almost 10 full bitcoins in the gox debacle. I had been a solid cryptomining advocate prior to that. It's what changed my mind and had me reevaluate the value of physical holdings.

>>53032868
store the safe key in a different place then and have a backup 'dummy' safe with some pocket change and convincing fake gold to give away the content so they get the dopamine hit of actually getting something. Just like a lizard losing its tail when treatend

>>53032804
>>53032819
Im probably just overthinking it. Will likely just do AGEs and diversify my coinage with silver.
>>53032882
I usually go with JMB because I’ve bought most of my stack through them but will check this out.

>>53032912
This is the part about gold and silverbugs in general that just drives me fucking crazy.
>buy $1000 worth of silver
>Oh man how do I protect this investment?
>Get a $400 safe, then a second $400 "dummy" safe
>use neither of them, instead buy a second home and store it in some random part of the walls
>your $1000 worth of silver is now worth $700 because this is a highly volatile commodity
>die of a heart attack at a casino table and your family sells the house with the silver in the walls anyway
Can we just be real for a minute?

>>53033038
>4chinz arguing
the assumption is you have close friends or famry members that know where the goods are at

>>53033038
Yes let's be real for a second, first if you are living in an area that has groups of robbers roaming around its not a nice neighborhood full stop, your father grew up in a shit neighborhood end of story get over it. Second if you can't notice that said group of robbers is following you around you are a fucking moron. Third if the robbers break into your house and are able to take you and your whole family hostage for hours while they tear your house apart and no one notices or cares, you are in a bad neighborhood. Why didn't they have the door and windows locked, why didn't they shoot them when they tried breaking in, why didn't they call the cops, why didn't anyone in the neighborhood call the cops, etc, etc. It sounds to me like every single step along the way and every excuse you come up with boils down to two things, live in a better area, and don't be a fucking moron. If you have the spare cash to buy tens of thousands in PMs you have the cash to move and to buy a gun, now quite being purposely moronic.

>>53033038
>Get a $400 safe, then a second $400 "dummy" safe
False, a dummy safe should cost you just $30 - $50 like a harbour freight one. The expensive safe should be dual purpose, like protecting against fire so you store emergency, cash or your seed phrase of your crypto

>>53033038
I'm not really sure what you're trying to suggest as the best option.
My two-safe idea was rather facetious. If you have a dummy safe that stops them searching, you shouldn't need a second one - just a decent hidey hole.
So what ARE you saying - don't hold PMs? That's avoiding the question. It's, "If you have PMs, how do you best store them?"

>>53033374
>>53033252
this guys, by the why this is the price you pay for freedom from the banks, eternal vigilence and responsibility. Only sojaboys and betamen are afraid of this responsibility and if you do unironically KYS remove yourself from the genepool, you are the reason why there are roaming hords of ferals here

>>53031721
Very nice!

>>53033252
Normally I'd be willing to offer a retort as there are reasonable responses to your inquiries, but they would be lost on you because you are a moron.

Verification not required.

>>53031939
What is a coin bar?

>>53033597
A bar shaped coin made out of precious metals that is done so for tax purposes in Europe. Real bars are taxed higher then coins because we have a tyrannical government and no guns

>>53033374
In my honest view you should keep at least some of your PMs in a safe deposit box. Some you should keep at home in the event that you somehow lose access to this box.
>but what about that one incredibly specific incident where the FBI took stuff from a bank and people----
I don’t care. There are millions and millions of safe deposit boxes in this country that this did not happen to so it is a shit example. Stop using it. You are far more likely to lose your stuff because of theft or natural disaster than lose it because the FBI confiscated an entire bank.

>>53033585
Says the "smart" guy living in an area so full of roaming packs of professional safe crackers and basketball Americans taking families hostage that he can't keep the things he owns in his own house.

>>53032749
Don’t use those they can literally be opened by smacking the top and turning the knob at the same time
https://youtu.be/Y6cZrieFw-k

>>53033684
>In my honest view you should keep at least some of your PMs in a safe deposit box.
Yeah that is fine, but I rather keep it at family I trust

>muh I don't have family I trust money with

Well sucks to be you then, Americans really need to fix this shit.

>>53033740
>Don’t use those they can literally be opened by smacking the top and turning the knob at the same time

Great as distraction dummy safe, nothing else

>>53033773
In that case put a dragon dildo in it so it smacks them in the face when opening it.
>give them the ol postage stamp

>>53033758
People are maleable. Trust is irrelevant. Knowledge is power and information is a liability.
>have family member you trusted
>at age 29 they develop schizophrenia
>this can happen to anyone at anytime without warning
>they kill you for your silver because they think it will give them super powers
>Better yet YOU develop schizophrenia and throw all your PM away because you think the Devil is sending you coded messages from it
Life is just a series of risks and rewards. Some risks you need to accept.

>>53025779
>What is an ideal amount of silver?
zero

>>53033865
>In that case put a dragon dildo in it so it smacks them in the face when opening it.
You should not do that, you should give a small 'reward' so the fuck off happily and don't shoot your family out of frustration. So put real looking fake gold and silver coins inside with some 1 dollar bill stacks for example

>>53033038
Stop stalking me

>>53034014
Again risk reward, what are the chances of 'suddenly' developing schizophrenia? Let look it up shall we:

>Affecting up to 1% of the global population, schizophrenia is a chronic, disabling psychiatric disorder that has profound effects on patients, families, and caretakers due to its tremendous personal, social, and economic burdens.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25180705/

So literally 1%

>>53033684
This is reasonable. My one objection would be that boxes cost rent, and depending on how much is in the box, that can make the effective premiums stupid high. You can insure PMs as part of the household goods. So I would store the hard-to-replace items in the box and allow my home to store the bulk generic crap.
And I agree, the one confiscation incident is statistically miniscule, but the fact that it's recent means it is a data point to be stowed. If something like this happens again, it might be a portent of things to come.

>>53027070
>>53027093
i posted this a couple threads ago... am thinking about it , it's around 28 per ounce which is honestly fantastic compared to what US junk was selling for just a week or so ago.

I've bought a ton of 999 for 28 over a year ago so i feel like it's a pretty good buy. I was stacking canadian 80% to avoid US Constitutional premiums, but this MM price is about the same cost as canadian so it's kind of a no brainer. dunno how long this sale price will last

i'm glad to see it too because monument metals has all their products "on sale" pretty much no matter what , so it's nice to see an actual sale price once in a while

>>53031982
If that IP was still in good hands it'd be a round with the UNSC/DF logo and/or the S-II program symbol.

>>53034122
Man, 28 per ounce with a spot price of 24 is great for any silver right now, especially something as good as US 90%
I'd get on it too but I just had to spend all of my emergency cash on a $900 car repair, just fuck my shit up

Lads, did anyone see the tweets based mad lad Dmitry Medvedev (Former Russian President and Putins right hand Man) put out?

This is his 10 predictions for 2023

>>53034236

>>53025585
based Kooks. Need to get me some

>>53034248

>>53034263

>>53034248
>>53034263
What did he smoke

>>53034275

>>53034295

>>53034316
Digital roubles are the fuuuuutureee

>>53034236
>>53034248
>>53034263
>>53034275
>>53034295
>>53034316
God all of this except for 10 are gigabased, please happen.
I'm terribly bored at a social level, nothing is actually progressing at a societal scale.

>>53025779
n+1

>>53032124
i think sarraf has decent prices for higher purity gold. i wouldn't get 24 k for wearing but some people like it

Does someone have the silverprices between 1866 and 1886? Just discovered that the goldprice stayed the same during this time while the amount of dollars was reduced immense by the banks. Now it would be interesting to see what the silverprice did in this period.

>>53032311
agree

>>53025765
>>53025787
>>53025839
Friendly reminder that the Feds have an extensive and well documented history of mass raiding safety deposit boxes just to get the loot and they lie to judges about it.

https://nypost.com/2022/09/24/feds-misled-judge-who-okd-warrant-for-86m-safety-deposit-raid-in-beverly-hills/

Always keep your metal unnaground

>The FBI and US Attorney’s Office misled a judge who issued a warrant for a controversial raid on a Beverly Hills safety deposit company that uncovered $86 million in cash and millions more other assets, according to a new report.

>A senior FBI agent recently testified that central to the plan, and not disclosed to the judge, was the permanent confiscation of the contents of every box that contained at least $5,000 in cash or goods, the Los Angeles Times reported.

>>53034077
>1% chance
Significantly higher than the likelihood the FBI is going to raid your safe deposit box and yet there you are.

>>53034466
>fbi
jesus christ take L loser or back it up with stats

>>53034501
Stats are obvious. There are millions of safe deposit boxes which have sat unmolested for decades longer than you have been alive. The L is yours to keep, good sir.

As a consolation prize, here's a picture of a manatee playing John Adam's crystal flute while twerking.

>>53032717
you may be able to find coronas for cheaper elsewhere, check SD , gainesville coins and other places too.. Jm has decent prices though for sure.

I have a few of these coronas, all restrikes. they are cheaper because they have no numismatic value, they are basically like rounds. they say its harder to unload them because people don't want them but i don't give a fuck, they're more 'secure' than bars and the price is basically the same so fuck boomie advice on buying overpriced eagles. i do like brits though

>>53034466
Just as likely to be kidnapped for hours by a pack of undesirables while they deconstruct the house and the neighbors don't question it? Just as likely for a group of professional safe crackers to stake out your home and plan a heist while you are on vacation?

>>53034371
>except for 10

I dont see any digital currency getting used by anyone after this trainwreck goes down, especially with crypto collapsing now and the incoming failure of the cbdc's.

The world bank and imf crashing sounds glorius to me though.

>>53026167
>illegal items in safety deposit box
>storing gold and silver in safety deposit box

>>53034581
>Just as likely to be kidnapped for hours by a pack of undesirables while they deconstruct the house and the neighbors don't question it? Just as likely for a group of professional safe crackers to stake out your home and plan a heist while you are on vacation?
yeah... that guy can't take L's

>>53034554
>fuck boomie advice on buying overpriced eagles
What no 60% premium why not?

>>53034581
I'm genuinely curious where you live that's so incredibly nice that it's obviously not urban (not densely populated), but where people have so much free time that your neighbors are checking on you every 6 hours, including after midnight. And how are your neighbors making all these casual housecalls? Aren't you afraid they'll trip into one of your Burmese tiger pits? Did you configure ALL of your neighbors faces for the automated turret system to ignore them or just a handful?

As much as I laff at the GiF let's be real, he's one McRib away from getting clapped by cardiac arrest. I wouldn't have to break into his house. Just send a cheese basket and wait.

>>53034671
>8pbid
>zero stack pics

post stack of GTFO

>>53034671
I live in a good community, I've gotten phone calls day and night when a neighbor saw or drove by and noticed a vehicle they didn't recognize. You know how many robberies there have been in the town I live in in the past decade? ONE you read that right one robbery in ten fucking years, it was the town moron, he broke into the gas station, didn't wear a mask, stole six hundred bucks in smokes and got caught the next day because everyone in town knew he fucking did it. You know why he robbed the gas station and not someone's home? He would have gotten blown the fuck in half thats why.. Getting robbed isn't just bad fucking luck and an unavoidable part of life, take some responsibility for yourself and the environment you choose to live in, take some of that money you have and move to a nicer place instead of making excuses for your shitty neighborhood.

>>53026117
Buy a used safe and save major $$$. Safes are rated by UL. The rating is the only thing that matters. TL-15 will stop most burglars. Make sure it's bolted to something if light enough to be wheeled away. You can add fire resistance to a safe later (on the outside, or via a smaller fire-resistant container inside) so focus on getting the highest TL rating you can afford. Europe has a different rating system but the principles still apply.

>>53034651
well i meant gold eagles in this case but i also don't buy ASE

>>53034642
Right? If you aren't holding your PMs why not just buy crypto or mining stocks, why even spend the money on PMs at all when access could be cut off with zero notice and at random.

premiums going down, supply is getting better. comez is filling is it over?

>>53034741
Nice try glowie

>>53034840
That sounds like a nice town, I am happy for you. The story I related to you is from several decades ago, probably before you were born. My father (on social security now) was an elementary school student at the time. I don't know why my uncle (who was probably 15) specifically was targeted and suspect no one ever will. It was the only home invasion in that neighborhood that I know of and hasn't happened again there since.

The original point of our conversation was you were saying no one who breaks into a house would look for a safe unless the home owner was blabbing about a safe. My retort is simply that crooks don't need to know, they are idiots and will generally assume these things. If you're keeping things in a safe because you're afraid someone is going to break into your house I find it strange you would be so incredibly resistant to the idea that sometimes houses are indeed broken into, sometimes with occupants at home.

>>53035048
It never began

>>53035020
the whole point of holding PM's is that you don't have counterparty risk, you are your own bank. The same concept in crypto actually, not your keys not your coins, don't hold it don't own it

>>53035048
i don't know, but maybe just don't buy when the WSS tards are 'squeezing' this high premium nonsense started in october when they were 'raiding'

besides the MM deal that some may pounce on, is anyone actually purchasing anything right now or is everyone burnt out from blackfriday/holiday spending.

i know i've taken a big break

>>53035058
>Nice try glowie
Based

>>53035075
Generally speaking the contents of a safe deposit box are at zero risk if a bank becomes insolvent. The only risk anyone here is talking about is confiscation, which is hundreds of times less likely than any number of things that threaten PMs in your personal possession in your home.

>>53035058
I'm not afraid someone is going to break into my house, I don't have a safe, all my gold and silver are on a shelf under my desk because I live in an area I don't have to be afraid in my own home

>>53035075
I agree with you, the anon i was talking to keeps his in a safe deposit box I think he may as well not have any PMs and just buy stocks and crypto if he isn't going to hold it himself.

>>53034295
Imagine. Independent Texas. A buccees empire.
Let's hope that alliance with Mexico doesn't bring too much more beaners to the great nation of Texas.

>>53035215
lmao fuck off larpie

>>53035281
where is the larp?

seethe niggers

>>53035234
I am also not saying that you shouldnt have *some* in saftety deposit box just in case, but you main stack should be with you in your own house

>>53035281

>>53034393
I was thinking 14k would be sweet problem is the pendent I want to put on it is pretty feminine so a more masculine chain probably won’t fit.
>never heard or sarraf I was looking at apmex

>>53034581
Based Alabama boss poster

>>53035352
>14k
ewww

get at least 18k mate

>>53035348
based photoshop skills

>>53033032
Nice stack

Any updates from MintAnon?

>>53035215
It's fine if you "feel safe," I just simply think you haven't done an honest risk assessment. This stack is hundreds of times more likely to get stolen when you're on vacation (probably by one of those super duper neighbors of yours who keep checking to see if your still home every six hours for totally altruistic reasons) than by some once in a generation raid on a random bank. However, this looks to be mostly silver so it may not be worth the investment in a deposit box.

Anyone that doesn't post stack, hell even a single fucking coin has no skin in the game and is lying and concern trolling

>>53035516

>>53035437
Individuals die, communities survive, I am part of one, I trust them and they trust me. You should find one for yourself.

>>53034014
You seem to be the schizo here.

>>53035568
>CTRL+F ID: qrIGjgDC
>Not a single usefull post
>only FUD

the guy is clearly trolling, not a single coin was posted and he calls us glowies

>>53035568
homes get broken into all the time. in good neighborhoods. Every day, in fact. You have zero concerns about any of this, its borderline npc behaviour.

>>53035673
my shit is also just out in the open, i don't give a fuck

>>53035681
thats kind of my point. zero respect for any of your opinions.

>>53035665
>Literally asking for data to mine
Yeah nah you're a cunt. Posting your stacks is a little less dumb than posting your guns. You get nothing from me. Thankfully I don't get personal validation from anonymous people on the internet so idgaf

>>53035681
>my shit is also just out in the open, i don't give a fuck
that is not the smartest idea, even if your are lucky to live in a high trust neighbourhood, someone can come from the outside and steal your shit. Happens here too

>>53035708
sorry don't care lol

the bait is getting worse

not antifa perse, but same tactics

>>53035811
you guys are such schizo drama queens. someone says they don't put their shit in a safe and you draw the big brained conclusion that it's an organized effort to demoralize /pmg/. get a real life and you will begin to realize that nobody gives a shit what you do or don't do with your pms, least of which on the himalayan basket weaving forum

>>53035791
>accuse the other party of that which you are guilty of
Here's the problem champ: I didn't call everyone here glowies. Just you. And wow it struck a nerve innit?
>Post images of your stacks and the insides of your houses
>ideally your hands should also be in the photo so we can estimate your race, gender, vascular structure, age, marital status, possibly fingerprints too
The absolute state of this

>>53035851
>that reading comprehension

Like I said before that guy is a concern troll, probably for the laughs, but if it works it works

>>53035920
>>53035920
>>53035920
>>53035920
new

>>53035887
If you are posting on here "they" already know all of that. We don't know if you have any PMs, just post one coin.

>>53035961
for those that are longer /pmg/, "post stack or gtfo" is a sure way to out shills/trolls immediatly it never fails.

>>53033645
Thanks.

>>53034671
I can tell you that if a pack of brown people followed a kid home in my neighborhood, calls would be made and guns would be drawn. Maybe if they came in a very stealthy way in the middle of the night and could somehow break in without alerting the dogs or armed occupants, MAYBE it could happen. But pretty damn unlikely and a VERY risky strategy in a place where it is estimated that 3/4ths of home owners are armed. There is a reason burglary of occupied homes is rare in the USA.

>>53034275
Elon Mush cannot run for president.

>>53034408
At the start of the civil war, silver was about $3/ozt. By 1890 it had dropped to $0.50/ozt.

>>53035048
where tf is is premiums going down? This must be a FUD post, but a extremally retarded one.

>>53025779
The answer is always more than you have so keep on stackin

>>53025472
Here’s some metal from the trenches, play verdun, tannenberg, or more recently, isonzo and have a merry Christmas anons, keep stacking shiny rocks

>>53036848
Thanks fren.
So one could say that the price of silver dropped with the shrinking money supply while the banks who had most of the gold turned out to be richer because they could declare gold as money, right?
The amount of gold institutions hold is also a risk I see nowadays. A goldbacked currency would be still easy to control for them but the impacts of shrinking and increasing the supply would be not as huge as with fiat due to the scarcity of gold imho.

>>53034236
>1
Almost certainly correct
>2
I don't think there's the political will in Britain on either side of the Aisle to rejoin the EU, but Britain has always surprised me with its retardation.
>3
Again, almost guaranteed at this point.
>4
I hope this happens, Hungary and Poland deserve the lands that were historically theirs.
>5
I really doubt Germany in its current form could create anything resembling a 4th Reich.
>6
I don't see why France would fight Germany under any circumstances, the former is a puppet of the latter. But I can think of several scenarios in which Poland is repartitioned.
>7
This will happen at some point, but probably not in 2023.
>8
The US will have a Civil War at some point in the future and will likely result in a Military Dictatorship of some sort. I don't really see a post-Civil War American Regime allowing Texas and Cali to exist as separate States from it, though.
As for Elon Musk, he's controlled opposition, I guess he could be installed at some point under some circumstances.
>9
The financial world will become Multipolar, there won't be a dominant market. Commodities will be traded at different prices in different countries.
>10
Bretton Woods Collapsed in 1971, so I assume he meant Post-Bretton Woods. Besides that little error, I think this one is pretty accurate, I've been hearing even as far back as 2017 that the USD will be replaced by various SDR derived CBDCs.