/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>52995882
Yeah well I tried dealing drugs and that either resulted in me owing a dope dealer money or getting arrest.
So I'm stuck working these shitty jobs.

>>52995882
Your capacity to learn is only as large as your ability to seek out understanding. You can learn a lot from McDonalds, but most people aren't willing to look at the particulars.

For instance, have you ever just watched your boss to see what he does, what he wears, what is effective, what isn't? Work is like college, most of the studying is done independently outside of lectures if you're smart and engaged. So while slinging burgers, you are making money and in a place where you can learn everything about the industry that you're in. Other people will try to stop or interrupt you and bring you down to earth, but those people are fudders and you have to learn to cater to their norminess. Your coworkers need to feel satisfied that you are also shit and going nowhere so you need to convince them of that while doing your job and learning as much as you can.

You only stand to learn more about business if you are looking for it.

>>52996636
spbp
All the skills I learned about the warehouse industry was from paying attention to people in operations. When I got my first job as a developer for a logistics company my knowledge of warehouse workflows was easily what set me above the other applicants.

>>52995947
my ex gf's friend's brother tried drug dealing. it culminated in his father paying off his supplier when the supplier threatened to kill him. kek.

>>52996636
>Your capacity to learn is only as large as your ability to seek out understanding. You can learn a lot from McDonalds, but most people aren't willing to look at the particulars.
truth
looking from the businesses side.McD is great profit making venture. and it works in different political systems. at can also be localized. and things that you can learn how to not conduct businesses and treat employees and customers even outweigh benefits of learning about logistics and organization. it is great place to learn about businesses.

>>52995882
I disagree completely, I learned more about life and my own capabilities from busting my ass behind the grill at a busy greasy sub shop than from any other job I've had. Personally it helped my earning capabilities as well because later on when I made money I was aware of how bad things could become, how hard I had to work for so little. It's about your mindset and how you approach it. To me it sounds like you have an unwarranted sense of self importance if you find it humiliating. There should be nothing humiliating about doing honest work.

>>52996883
He finds it humiliating because yeah, ego.
He thinks he's "too good" for McDonald's and that he's so much smarter than everyone else there
Here's the thing, prove it. You have skills the rest of them do not? Prove it. If you are so far and beyond the other wagies you should have no issue becoming a manager, and once you have management experience you can walk into any goyslop joint and get a manager job.
>No I'm better than that
Well, it sounds like the only skill you have is breathing and reasoning skills, and the ability to lift 50 pounds. I don't see a college degree, I don't see certifications, I don't see previous professional experience.
So to me, and everyone else out there, OP is completely deserving of a McDonald's job, as it is within his skillset and experience level. There is nothing that proves otherwise other than his own word. Which is no better than a dropout homeless person saying they deserve an engineering position, yeah well homeless Joe, prove it.

>>52996883
It depends if you come from affluence either real or perceived. My mother scolded me the first time i went out with the neighbors kids to collect soda cans for money, shovel snow for neighbors etc

I was taught that because my parents had earned some level of respect that i could not ruin it by doing things that i didn't have to do because of their sacrifices/good fortune/prosperity etc

Some of us have parents who worked with their hands and tolerated so much that they feel their kids are entitled to not have to go through that humiliation first hand. It's different for everyone.

One thing is for sure. They should make a robot that cleans public bathrooms. Nobody should have to do that shit. Absolutely nothing to gain from doing that unless you really are a shithead that needs to really go through it to learn.

>>52997256
The issue is that they clearly never valued the work they did. They had the same attitude they projected on their kids and that OP has. "I shouldn't have to do this, I'm better than this" and they seemingly don't correlate that the reason they have such a high work ethic and are successful now is because of where they started from. Hard work and scraping by built them into better people.
If you teach your kids that certain tasks are beneath them or that certain items or jobs are beneath them, you are raising a sociopath who will expect the rest of the world to respect their outlook, which as many of us know, doesn't happen, and this child you raised may not be able to handle this reality and will lash out as an adult.

Hard work and scraping by sure as fuck didn't improve my work ethics
All it did was steal my youth and give me shit in return.
The ethics where already there and those where the problem.
I believed the work hard and you'll be rewarded meme, this only counts if you're getting a cut or own the business

>>52997328
I agree. You have to make your kids do things they don't want to do. I for example did all the grunt work at home. Taking out the trash twice a week for all ten apartments where we lived. Helping out at the family business. My parents just had a huge problem with me fraternizing with actual poor people in the streets who were trying to get a couple bucks.

You should protect your kids from humiliation while also teaching them to value their own and other people's hard work. It's not a bad thing if your kids never have to work for anyone else or put their trust in others at a young age. Shit, men used to hate the idea of their wives having to go out into the cold world and compete with sociopaths. The wives weren't lazy but they also didn't have to deal with humiliation or put themselves in position to be taken advantage of back when they were home makers. Like i said it's different for everybody.

>>52995882
people who actually go to mcdonalds for food should be much more humiliated than anyone working there