/biz/ - Business & Finance

TSLA is dumping because this is the "dump" phase of the pump-and-dump

>>52961836
Because of democrats

>>52961836
>Is Tesla dumping so hard because of the massive electric truck blunder or ecause of twitter?

explain what the electric truck blunder was other than it being impossible to have electric trucks that can carry any real load any real distance

>>52961836
>electric truck blunder
Nice try. It was a literal success. Hes likely selling stock to fund the lawsuits that come his way for what his next trick is.

tesla enjoyed having no real competition for years. now the traditional automotive giants are investing big in ev. seems like prices are just normalizing.

>>52962645

>>52961836
Neither. The bubble has popped. Simple as.

>>52962645
>PepsiCo’s new Semis can haul Frito-Lay food products for around 425 miles (684 km), but for heavier loads of sodas, the trucks will do shorter trips of around 100 miles (160 km), O’Connell said.

>O’Connell reportedly stated that the company’s Tesla Semi trucks still have 20% charge after carrying loads of chips over 425 miles.

But it’s unclear why the trucks only do 100-mile trips with loads of sodas.

>>52962724
This doesn't say they ONLY do 100 miles, it says that's their use case. And either way, it's the first iteration of the tech. No matter what, this is a win-win for Tesla/Pepsi

>>52961836
Both

>have to spend excess of $100,000 every two years to change battery
>doesn't function in -30 degree weather
Do Teslatruckcels really?

>>52962735
for innovations to have a significant impact you would need better batteries (factor 2-3) and that shit ain't nowhere in sight so don't give me this "first iteration" bullshit

>>52962724
>But it’s unclear why the trucks only do 100-mile trips with loads of sodas.

i dont think it was even sodas, it was boxes of fucking tortilla chips

It's a car company that is worth several times more than the combined value of the top US car companies and they don't so actually make any money so yeah what a surprise

>>52962724
Probably because soda is far heavier than bags of crisps that are mostly air.

>>52963096
The tech doesn’t need to work, did the vaccine teach you nothing? Pfizer didn’t care that none of their claims were true because governments bought the shots. The same will happen with Tesla trucks in at least Europe and probably the USA if democrats win the 2024 presidential election.

Enron 2.0?
Did he go scorched earth recently because he knows the jig is up?

>>52961836
Because it is under a short and distort attack

>>52961836
It's a globohomo shitcorp.

>>52961836
>Tesla down
>Xpeng and nio up

Is the switch about to flip?

>>52961836
because they just announced hiring freezes and layoffs next quarter.

>>52963096
All tech builds on previous innovation. You won't get better batteries if there isn't a strong demand.

>>52963289
>china building anything that actually works
Anon tesla is a giant tax fraud but china? Anon I...

>>52963341
China builds everyyhing on the planet you fucking retard

>>52961836

>>52962645
It was a literal flop that anyone with a brain already knew it would be. Renault have been making electric trucks for years without lying about payload or withholding weight figures. There is absolutely nothing new or inovative about hundred year old electric vehicle technology or even electric trucks. He's left his fanboys to tell us how amazing it is while he stays silent with the only information that actually matters with a truck - what can it haul and how far.

>>52961836
Tesla is dumping because it was over evaluated.
There was no explanation to the fact that Tesla was worth more than all American car maker combined.
Musk did the right thing selling his shares ATH, now he can wait for the real price, and just buy back and keep the change. In the end, he will own more of Tesla than he did before, and the Tesla cars are not going anywhere...

>>52963390
It doesn’t matter how efficient it is when governments make it the only legal type of truck

>>52962735
>Buy my vapourware truck. It doesn't work but maybe the next model will, or maybe the one after that but you need to buy this one that doesn't work so I can "research" how to make the next one work.
Meanwhile Renault have been selling electric trucks that work for years. Because they know the limitations of the tech and made a product that would fill that niche without lying to their customers and overstating it's ability.

>>52963425

Musk is busy ruining his brand's image with the sort of people who would buy his cars though.

>>52963131
Nah mate, we won't be buying them. We'll be buying the Volvo, Mercedes, Daf or Scania electric trucks if the battery life works for the particular job the truck is on. If not, we'll stick to diesel until they crack the hydrogen fuel cell truck which seems a better option all round.

>>52963124
They're the next generation of automaker, their value is performing Cars as a Service, you can't work on your own vehicle, every vehicle has an internet shutdown backdoor, premium features are behind a monlthy pay wall and the battery shits out after 5 years (once you've finished paying your loan). They say the extra market cap value is in AI driving but it's because you never truely own a Tesla.

>>52963454
They're already trying it in Europe and UK but they've found charging diesel trucks £100 a day for the ULEZ (ultra low emission zone) and £25 a day for the congestion charge still isn't enough to make us buy electric trucks from the big manufacturer's (Merc, Daf, Renault, Scania) because it's still cheaper to take a diesel truck into the zone. The amount of tax they have to charge diesel trucks to make electric look even equal is mind boggling.
Don't forget - we only transport the shit, it's you, the consoomer that has to pay the increased costs.

>>52963457
The Renault trucks need to be able to answer netflix and games. There is a segment of drivers who want that, and Tesla is providing. I fell for the technically superior meme once, when in reality its always a popularity contest.

>>52963303
>You won't get better batteries if there isn't a strong demand.

there is massive demand for batteries with several times the capacity of current ones.

>>52963528
Have you seen how futuristic the Tesla trucks look though? You’re giving the EU way too much credit

>>52963828
It could look like a massive fleshlight for all we care. Owner operators and mega carriers care about one thing - cost. Cost to operate, cost to service, cost to run and depreciation cost.
Trucking is a cut throat business with razor thin margins and if you fuck up buying a truck, or a hundred trucks you're dead. Seriously, it's that bad.
Will operators trust Tesla right out of the gate? No. It takes decades to build that trust and one wrong move and you'll be dropped. Have a look at Truck of the Year and see how fierce the competition is. Trucks win orders if they can shave less than 1% of fuel costs or increase service intervals by a few hundred kilometres. Every single penny counts especially if you're running multiple trucks.
It's not like buying a car where it's down to taste and looks. We don't even call them trucks, we call them equipment. They are tools to do a job.
Scania is the king of trucks in Europe because of their longevity and bullet proof residuals. Mercedes is second for it's class leading fuel economy. Third is Volvo for it's driving comfort and all round build quality with good residuals.
They all made electric trucks.
Tesla thinking they're going to 'disrupt' Scania is laughable. It'll take a decade of solid build quality and strong residuals before any carrier takes the plunge.

>>52961836
>uses his stockholders money to buy a shitty garbage company just to own the libs
I'm just surprised this guy is still alive at all.

>>52964063
>cost
How about “cost to break EU and California law?” I didn’t read the rest of your post since you can’t seem to understand the basic fundamental power dynamics at play. You’ll do what the government says or you won’t work.

>>52964257
Haha what?

>>52961836
Musk himself is dumping it to pay for his Twitter boondoggle.

>>52963618
>drivers
Drivers are equipment just like the truck. You think operators give two fucks about them? Unless you're an owner operator you'll drive whatever the company gives you to drive, you have no say in the matter. Owner operators are business owners. They care more about the bottom line than you or Elon seem to think.
We are not rednecks who roll coal and drive trucks like some sort of old timey cowboy. We're just trying to make a living and take money home to our families like any business owner. Long gone are the days of seeing the country while helping damsels in distress. We are pressured the moment we step inside the truck. Can I make collection in time? Will I make the rest stop for my break? Can I make the delivery before they close? Where can I park tonight? I need to find a job for tomorrow. We have televisions and internet in trucks so we just plug in a firestick and watch Netflix or use scammy apps to watch any TV or film we want. The Tesla semi may turn out to be a good truck that fills a niche. Problem is, Elon has started off at the launch with lies and very limited information. This won't fill buyers with confidence when you've got million of dollars at stake.

>>52964369
Isn't that what he did? And now he's going to do it again just to bail out because Twitter is just a huge hole now. Probably going to close the service. All because he wanted to own the libs...

>>52961836
its dumping because elons selling

The Elon bubble is bursting. Everyone is starting to realize that he was a scammer all along, and that all his companies are essentially worthless.

>>52964352
You missed the point. Scania, Daf, Renault, Volvo Mercedes all make electric trucks and are delivering long range electric trucks now, today.
If governments force us to buy electric trucks then our costs will rise. YOU pay that, not me. I only carry the shit and I need to make a living.

soon enough Musk will be worthless and people will finally realize the extent of his fraud/SEC violations.
10 years later, he'll be in jail, just like that woman that pretended to be steve jobs and "invented" a blood test that works off 1 drop of blood.
well, he'll be in jail, assuming Ukraine doesn't assasinate him.
they put him on their kill list after he suggested Ukraine surrendering and then threatening to pull starlink.

>>52964501
Maybe so but do we really want another African in jail?

>>52964352
And you won't get your avocado for your toast. This is actually happening in London where they have the ULEZ. Carriers simply don't go into London or add the cost of the ULEZ plus a percentage for administration to the quote. The cost is passed to the shipper who passes it to the receiver who passes it to the end customer. Londoners pay more for everything and have empty shelves far more than any other part of the country. I'm not against electric or a fan of diesel. It makes fuck all difference to me. It's a truck. It's just a tool to make a living. Electric trucks just don't work for the vast majority of situations. Hydrogen might and there's several big truck companies looking at it. I think hydrogen is the way forward personally.

>>52961836
Tesla is losing half their customers because of the Twitter fight.

>>52961836
Because the retard sold off a lot of his stock in order to fund his disastrous twitter buyout and the ongoing debt he's created as a result. Tesla shareholders no longer have any faith in this faggot.

>>52964539
>Maybe so but do we really want another African in jail?
well then, like, slava ukraini bro!
they'll keep him out of jail.

>>52961836
>/biz/ - Business & Finance
>OP hasn't realized that nearly every tech company has lost close to 50% or more of their stock value in the past year because of the recession that democrats pretend isn't real

>>52961836
Plenty more to go. It's just a car company that elon (a negative asset) loaded with a bunch of hot air projects to trade like a tech stock and not a car manufacture (projects including his bankrupt solar panel roofs that he offloaded onto tesla, human robot 20 year behinds the industry, the truck that can only go more than 100 miles if its only carrying literal fucking air and self driving which will not be viable any time soon and probably not regulatory possible for decades)

>>52964936
>hyperloop
>self driving cars
>boring company
>dancing robot man
>roadways underground
>starlink
>Tesla semi
>solar panels
The man is a visionary. All hail Elon

>>52964936
When will he release the Tesla shitcoin?

>"I know I've been selling 10s of millions of dollars in my shitty worthless company, but for you dumb goys it's a buying opportunity!!"
eloncucks:
>"yes massa thank you massa"

>>52961836
It's an overvalued piece of shit that doesn't hold up in a high interest rate environment.

>>52965623
>Data I'm seeing says we're in deflation already

Lol.... excuse me?

Amazon is dumping because Bezos is a chud

>>52961870
Kek. This. Still don't understand how even after all these years people still believe it has strong fundamentals.

>>52961836
Tesla is dumping because it's been disgustingly overvalued for several years. Remember when they had an Mcap in excess of fucking $1T? A fucking mcap that FORD, A CENTURY-OLD AUTO MANUFACTURER THAT PRODUCES ROUGHLY 10% OF ALL VEHICLES FOR MANY USES ACROSS MANY INDUSTRIES has never attained.

It's simply time to discover Teslas actual price, without the elon dweebs preaching their cultish bullshit propping it up with cope.

>>52961836

his faggy cars are overpriced death traps that will crash you into the median at 120 mph because you didn't sub to tesla +, what else does he even really have going for him, not shit, he's a pro scam artist.

>>52965854
Technology growth stock companies have compressed life cycles. Tesla has been public for 10 years as we now know it which fits precisely with the downfall it's having. It's literally not going to recover. Neither will any of the high flying growth stock techshit mega monsters like Facebook.

>>52963772
Yes, a large part of that is the emerging ev market. If you don't have first generation you won't ever have future generations because research is driven by money.

>>52961872
This is it, really.
Elon is a god damn hero for unveiling all the corrupt shit we knew/suspected was there. But heroes don't make money. He's probably going to get suicided within 2 years.

>>52962735
lmfao they are better off paying a driver and using a diesel tractor then the money spent on these first run of tesla trucks. Hopefully pepsi has someone like musk and agreed to a lease and will stiff him on it in someway.

>>52964445
Why don't we send freight through his hyper loop? Oh yea, he rugged us on that too.
>no hyper loop
>no moon
>no mars
and now he wants to put a chip in your brain. He likes getting a pat on the back for what he says he can/will do to build up hype the bait and switch you with something else when he's ready to try it. He's got great rocket tech, an electric car, and has a bunch of trash floating around the earth's orbit. That's it. And he burned all that cash into twitter.

>>52964445
SpaceX is cool though

>>52965623
>fellow americans please support inflationary economic policies that keep my companies afloat while destroying your purchasing power!!!! it's actually a good thing!

>>52966709
Falcon 9 was good yes, but I think it only represents something like a 10-20% price reduction compared to the dozen or so other launchers on the market. It did not revolutionise the market as promised and did not lead to more launches when you remove the bloatware starlink launches.
I don't think they are anywhere near sorting any of the problems with starship, and some scientists I have read seem to think they wont ever sort them but I am too brainlet to make a judgement on that (something about pressure within the fuel tanks and them being too big and not strong enough and that adding the strength would lead to too much weight gain, something like that).
Starlink is a total waste economically because there will never be enough African farmers who want an internet connection to make it profitable to run an array of 50k satellites compared to laying a wire, which is exactly why every other satellite internet provider just uses a few satellites in higher orbit.

His clown projects are gonna get scrapped and the good bits divvied up among the arabs who were stupid enough to invest in him

>>52967001
>laying a wire is cheap
The fuck? Fiber optic cables and construction work in general is expensive as fuck. Not only is there the physical labor involved, but there's the annoying expensive legal work required to get easements and whatnot. That's why laying down new cable is priced in the 7-9 figures. Compare this to satellite launches which number in the millions per launch (and they launch dozens with every flight), and which provide GLOBAL coverage.

>>52967001
Why are all redditors this fucking retarded? No, laying down cable is not cheaper than starlink. Actually understand what the fuck you're talking about and realize WHY the man is a multibillionaire.

>>52965903
>Technology growth stock companies have compressed life cycles
what does it mean compressed life cycles?

>>52967276
where are you getting these customers from to pay for launching 5-10k satellites a year to maintain his proposed array? 90% of the world who could afford starlink already has a better wired connection at a cheaper price. farmers in african villages don't know what a starlink is

>>52967319
>WHY
a good salesman born rich, trod over anyone in his way and managed to build a devoted following to slurp up his every drop of semen

>>52967361
>90% of the world who could afford starlink already has a better wired connection at a cheaper price. farmers in african villages don't know what a starlink is
First off, 14 mil Americans don't have any internet access and 25 million don't have high speed internet. Without some Congressional bill approving hundreds of billions in spending, there is no way they can "last mile" those customers either. 25 million alone is a pretty good market, considering the price tag (1200 a year, so a ~30 billion market).

Some studies claim that up to half the American population don't use high speed internet, but I find these dubious:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-great-broadband-divide-living-without-high-speed-internet-access/

That said, over half the world doesn't have broadband speeds and have no way other than satellite to get those speeds. How can you not see the scalability problem here? You're not going to build data centers and lay down fiber optic in rural China/India. Are you fucking stupid?

>>52967430
>Everyone who defends starlink must be an Elon dickrider
>implying
You don't have to love the man to know that starlink is a brilliant idea and that you're fucking economically illiterate for not seeing it.

>>52963492
Musk made a really massive mistake with twitter, but realistically you couldn't forsee this kind of thing. IMO he did everything right. I approve of just about every decision he made since purchasing twitter. It kind of makes me seethe that people are dumping on Musk-sama.

The fact is he fired a lot of people. and I think he did so with the intention of getting Twitter to work like a well oiled machine, only tolerating the rightest employees for the job, illuminating slack. It wasn't like a Red Wedding, it was more like a part refurbishing. I don't hold it against him, I think that's how people should more or less treat their businesses. If you own a company and want to hold it to a global standard you hire the best employees.

I am wagie scum, but at least I acknowledge that a 44billion dollar company needs to function differently from a gas station kiosk.

>>52967449
You can divide your 14 million by 2 or 3, because households won't ever be buying multiple starlink connections. Most who needed or even wanted a good internet would probably gave moved, in the rural areas you got older farmers and you're really grasping at straws for a market here. Half the world makes $2/day and China already said they will NEVER approve starlink so you can scrub half the world and 1.4billion from your dumb calculations. More intelligent people than you already did the calculations than you, idiot. It will never profit

>>52967449
and I live rural in western europe with a comparably good connection that has been in place atleast a decade so you may aswell cross off half of the half of the world who could potentially have afforded it

>>52961836
people saw for the first time how Musk runs a company.
like a cringy 12 year old who makes it up as he goes along. and with zero business discipline.
they also saw him tweet all day while his other company's stock crashes like the Hindenburg, refusing to do anything (other than post more LOTR tweets and make fun of his shareholders)
the emotional attachment to the Musk brand is gone forever.

>>52967449
>Literal cletus is going to pay for a global satellite array to get internet to his ranch in alabama
I swear crossover from ZH killed this place

>>52967526
This. I think he is overrated in general, but Elon's initial actions with Twitter have been superb.

The reason he's so hated right now is because he has single-handedly proven that tech companies are horrendously over-staffed (and just as ZIRP ends and VC money dries up!), and has provided a case study in smashing the white-collar cartels controlling major companies and institutions. Any leftist with half a brain is fully aware of what Elon has just done, and realises that his success at Twitter is an existential risk to them. This Elon template could be readily applied to any of FAGMAN, universities, huge swathes of government, the media... Companies and institutions running out of funds, that would have previously turned to investors or the government respectively with outstretched hands to fund their massive payroll, can now be asked "why can't you do what Elon did at Twitter?" Elon broke the leftist omerta operating on American institutions and businesses in front of the whole world, and right as a recession is kicking in

>>52963341
>Steals your (((Tesla)))
>makes it better
Nutting personruu

>>52961836
both. elon sold 22 million shares and drove the price down. he was raising cash for twitter.

>>52963131
>The tech doesn’t need to work
you huffing a lot of copium m8?

>>52966433
Pepsi is installing solar panels at their factories, their use case makes sense and saves money. Not seeing the part that doesn't make sense about this.

>>52961875
Electric trucks perform better, carry more, go farther, for cheaper.

>>52970673
LMAO especially with those ultra light batteries.

someone in a tesla thread a few days ago laughed at me when i said they would never maintain 50% year of year growth, but it turns out today they're freezing hiring and starting layoffs. this must be one of the dumbest boards on 4chan which is kinda funny for "business and finance"

>>52961836
Everything is dumbing right now you fucking NIGGER

>>52970819
my INDEX FUND is barely -5% ytd you fucking spastic

>>52967449
tmobile now has wireless broadband for $25/month. No way would anyone choose the much more expensive Starlink if they have a choice. There will always be some remote rural areas that have poor cellular coverage but that market is constantly shrinking in the usa.

>>52970795
everyone is freezing hiring and laying off people.
its just not covered by the news media because it'll hurt biden.
like the fact that there was like only 10K jobs made when they reported 1 million.
the economy is REALLY bad right now.
like way worse than most know or being reported.

>>52970908
it's just more relevant for tesla because their entire value is still just hot air of "growth" that will never exist

>>52970754
Diesel engines are pretty fucking heavy.

>>52970960
nigga, just pay the $8.

>>52970977
btw half of tesla's cars are made in china. all the tech (if any) they ever had has been passed to chinese companies by their chinese employees years ago. it wont be long before the CCP find a technicality or for him to trip up on the qanon and CCP dicksucking political tightrope he built himself, to shut him down so you may aswell write anything tesla has in china down to 0 already

>>52961836
meh. twitter is obviously a tax write off. musk sold a fuckton of his TSLA shares. he'll file for bankruptcy, hire a new CEO and be done with it. i think he really had a vendetta against the democrats when biden ignored tesla and thought he could redpill all his democrat followers and turn them into republicans, but obviously it didn't work lol

>>52961870
on boomer stonk tv they cope that its just him who dumps stonk for a year now.
>hehehe its just this one paperhands g-guuys once he has enough we regain everything we l-lost

>>52970960
kinda like china dont u think? there will never come the day when people want to drive a Chanfang instead of an Audi.

>>52971408
man I love this slut

>>52961836
It was way overvalued relative to its earnings, and the entire speculative asset market has been dumping for a year.

>>52963126
>Fill pop with more carbonation, ergo, more air
>Bottles lighter
>Less pop
Figured it out

>>52963354
Everything is not corncobcrete

tesla is up like 1 million percent in the last few years, I dont think shaving a bit off the top is too severe

>>52961870
Elons a scammer no wonder he appeals to the right wing all their leaders are Jewish con men

>>52965854
>muh Ford
>muh PanAm
>muh Compaq
>muh Kodak

Keep seething you left handed faggots.

>>52972858
Numbers scare the anti Tesla shills off. They have to make a new thread now to keep the narrative going.

>>52972858
>>52973030
Meanwhile in reality Chevy is set to outsell Tesla in EVs 10 to 1

>>52972858
kek imagine buying an american "car"

>>52970975
not as heavy as even an Electric Sedan, let alone SUV. Meds now.

>>52973291
>$102,000 Base
>Slower than baseline $47,000 Tesla Model 3
>AMG version starts at $147,000
>Slower than $63,000 Tesla Model 3 Performance
>Slow EQS has same range as fast Tesla
>Fast EQS has same shit range as slow Tesla

Where do I sign up?

>>52973436
Missed the good one.
>$102,000 EQS goes 0-60 in the same 6.4 seconds as the $27,000 Bolt EV

>>52973436
You clearly never owned one of these cars.
I sold my Tesla S for comfyness long range in my eqs580 and sporty funny goodness in my Taycan.
My third car is pic related. Now fuck off you little zoomer faggot.

>>52973466
Post car that isn't from Google image search larper.

>>52973490
Post hands on Tesla S steering wheel faggot.
Maybe i will consider.

>>52973500
I don't own a Tesla, or an EQS, or a Jag.

You claim to have an E-Type, an EQS, and a Taycan, but only produce images from blog posts and ads.

>>52973519
>I don't own a Tesla, or an EQS, or a Jag.
Of course you dont. You are just a whiny bitch ass zoomer simping for a scammer.

>>52973528
You are just a whiny bitch larper who's crying because his fantasy cars are just fantasies.

>>52962735
That's such a fucking joke. Pepsi, a company that has a net negative impact on society due to 1) the cost of obesity on healthcare and drop in output by fatties and 2) pollution due to their cans, is moving into a "green" fleet to "help save the planet". Nevermind the fact that the electricity used by that fleet still comes overwhelmingly from gas or coal, the chemicals used in its batteries cause more harm than producing a combustion vehicle and running it for hundreds of thousands of miles and when said batteries reach the end of their lives recycling them will be basically impossible, thus leading to more pollution. Not to mention the fact that the time wasted charging such fleet will result in supply chain whipsaw effects, ultimately leading to higher prices.

The whole thing is a disgrace. This world is hopeless.

When you need collateral and cash fast; you pamp with fake rental car contracts, then damp when you need money.

>>52971760

Who is she? I like Asians with slitty eyes.

>>52973555
How can a company be net positive in your view?

>>52973680
Sharon Lee

>>52961836
the best lesson elon gave me is that you don't need to be a genius to fuck up absolutely everything, it's time to go back to my dext bags and see if I get to starve this time, or live another month

>>52961836
All tech shittery is dumping. It's called a bear market. And it will keep on going down. Should have sold last year like the rest of us.

>>52973684
ugh gay book title

IM GONNA FREEEEEEEZEPEACHHHHH

>>52961872
>>52961875
>>52962645
>>52963615
>>52972947

>>52961836

It's hilarious the moment that Musk starts to become obviously right wing, is the moment he starts collapsing. Right wingers can only grift and attempt to to take over already popular things. Conservatism is by default, against human nature to want to constantly seek new things out and change. They literally go against human nature with their ideology. It's a party that's entirely based on people that are scared of change, and they wrap this basic fear up in things like religion and morality and every excuse in the book, when at the end of the day, it's simply: "I used to be with 'it', but what 'it' was changed, and now what's 'it' is new and scary to me."

They will forever be coping, and it's kind of sad.

>>52979676
>I'm a plebbitor
>rocket man bad
kys, faggot.

>>52963354
>China builds everyyhing on the planet you fucking retard

Because they are the biggest blackmarket counterfeiters in the world. Bad to do business with for a lot of industries.

>>52979676
>It's hilarious the moment that Musk starts to become obviously right wing
That was forever ago. This was the moment he finished.

>>52961836
Ah it warms my heart knowing Elon is throwing away his net worth. I hope he does something more stupider than Kanye.

>>52979984
turning everything you don't like into memes is a coping mechanism.

>>52961875
Strange comment. Here's a Tesla Semi travelling 500 miles on a single charge weighing in at a total of 81,000 lbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtgaYEh-qSk

>>52973291
>mercedes

>>52967449
a good chunk of those 14mil are probably boomers who don't know how to start up a computer and never will. And I doubt farmers in the middle of the grand canyon care much for it either.

Someone explain dumping and why imaginary value dropping is bad news to me. I've never dealt with stocks.

>>52961836
electric cars a meme and trucks even more far fetched

>>52962724
Maybe because they have to run refrigeration units on the soda which saps power? Not sure desu

So... Is this the time to start buying tesla stonk?

>>52962705
This. Tesla poomped hard when the money printer was on. Now that they’re off, the real value will be shown. I’m expecting it to be like 10-20 dollars.

>>52961836
If Tesla had the same mcap as Ford, the stock would be less than $20

We're in for a wild ride.

>>52967602
There are people that unironically think that rural farmers and injuns in the desert are excited to pay for starlink lmao

>>52985873
No. See the chart in >>52964936
This is the beginning of Tesla's value being on par with the other companies shown.

>>52983402
That's a 2 minute marketing video which proves nothing. Elon is famous for pushing misleading marketing or even flat out lies. Nobody believes his shit except retards now. The range either gets tested by independent third parties or it's fake.

>>52966431
Elon is a faggot
He needs to pull a MCafee soon

>>52970673
pick one of the 4, cant have it all

>>52964936
>It's just a car company
It's not even a car company. Telsa's long term business model was always to push for adoption of electric vehicles as fast as possible (a market they can't win in because other manufacturers are gonna shitcan them once they get in in force), then use that as a pretense to get their investors to fund building up a massive charging stations network at a loss, then using profits from that shit and adapters (until they get forced to standardize by regulators) to rake in long term profits.

They're a fucking outlet company.

>>52987990
it's more expensive upfront. And the battery cycles have considerable degradation leading to extremely short usage life

>>52979676
The left chases away talent with psychosis and then needs to gaslight and humiliate them to keep others in line.

Only the amount leaving is getting higher so the extent of the lies and kinetic actovities is as well.

>>52962724
a case of soda and a case of chips have a similar volume but a family size bag of doritos weighs 10.5oz and a 2 liter of soda weighs 4.5 lbs
now multiply the difference in weight by the entire volume of the truck

>>52961836
What are you talking about? Tesla is still extremely undervalued.

>>52983402
How much is the load? And isn’t the limit 80k in most states? How did this convince you of anything?

Musk went full chudcel. He unbanned drumpf, who was found guilty of you know, inciting an insurrection. Kind of a big deal..
Then he decided to charge a massive amount of money for blue checkmarks. Which in an era of misinformation makes it that much harder to know who the trustworthy journalists are..
Then he even banned some of these journalists! He is a danger to our democracy.

>>52973291
I prefer Japanese.

>>52988661
That's not chudcel. That's believing in free speech. You are just the average NPC who would do the bidding for any authoritarian ruler in any country.

>>52966508
>He's got great rocket tech
>>52966508

no he doesnt

>>52963354
my nation ACTIVELY spends BILLIONS of dollars trying to avoid buying chinese goods because of all the safety violations, to which chinese businessmen form shell companies in other nations to try to offload their fraudulent garbage.

>>52966508
>>no mars

Are you going to fight everyone who didn't send people to Mars now?

>massively overvalued stonk

AAAAAA this must be because of twitter!!!1one!!1!1111¡!!!

>>52967449
i remember years ago i read Starlink internet was supposed to be free(or close to it)? did i read bullshit or Elon lied about that too?

Because it was severely overbought and due for a correction, which it got once the economy started to turn.

Literally just look at the chart.

>>52967001
>Starlink is a total waste economically because there will never be enough African farmers who want an internet connection to make it profitable to run an array of 50k satellites compared to laying a wire, which is exactly why every other satellite internet provider just uses a few satellites in higher orbit
The use case and primary paypigs for Starlink are meant to be the big banks, institutions that will pay literally billions to shave 1ms off the latency between London and New York for trading purposes. Low latency, lower than ground-based fiber is their killer feature.

>>52989558
That's what retards say until they start buying the top again and call everything scam. It's better you start buying low cap coins with utility. Maybe some ALT, ORE and mid caps like Metis.

>>52966508
>and now he wants to put a chip in your brain.

thats just more bullshit. it will never happen.

>>52962735
>And either way, it's the first iteration of the tech.

and future iterations will be no better unless a whole new revolutionary battery is invented which there is no sign of

>>52961836
Demand for EVs is collapsing. Tesla already slowed production in Shanghai, cut prices in China and now offers big discounts in the US and Europe.

>>52989937
>Low latency
>lower than ground-based fiber
H-how is that possible?

>>52990072
Essentially a straight line vs the mess that the undersea cables exist in. Starlink satellites fly low enough that the total effective latency from ground to satellite to ground is lower than the less direct path the cables take. It's a small improvement, but it's also one worth trillions to the right bidders.

>>52988661
back to pleb bit with you

>>52967001
Well, you're wrong, Falcon 9 did in fact revolutionize spaceflight. The data is even on fucking Wikipedia. There is no excuse.
As for Starlink, you have no idea how much the military and any kind of company that operates in remote areas, sea, and air is creaming their pants. Military and glowniggers were all over that shit from the start so much SpaceX now offers a national security version. That alone guarantees it will be loaded with cash. Airliners and cruisers coming up next. Fleet operations. People who can only think of rednecks niggers in bumfuck nowhere as customers of Starlink are about as retarded as those. That's only the shilling to sell it to bleeding heart shitlibs.
Starship? All the obstacles they face are because they're trying to harden it for rapid reuse. If SpaceX gives up on reusability of Starship they could launch pretty much today and still completely demolish SLS for example for which US gov pays billions a pop for single launch every 1+ years.
All competition is quite literally at least 15 years behind and the gap is not getting smaller. They spent too long ignoring SpaceX with copes similar to yours and now they're fucked. So many years yet nobody is even close to matching Falcon 9 reusability of even 5 years ago.

>>52973291
>nu-mercedes
no

>>52961836
"Elon's" compensation already kicked in so there's no need to keep pumping the fraud stock

>>52991067
>dd0SzW67
I can see it says something but I am not easily deciphering it.

>>52961836
Its all a show biz bro;
I' so far down on this shit stock I might as well by the dip.

>>52961870
This. Its bear market time they're lying to not alert the masses

>>52961836
Like the 5 times before this, theyre crashing it so they can ride the wave back to the top. Jesus christ the Jews really are right about the Goyim, you have the memory of a goldfish and foresight of a nigger.

>>52991218
This

>>52973555
checked and based

>>52971746
when I was a kid 'made in japan' was synonymous with complete crap
much later, the fiirst japanese cars to come over were plagued with unacceptable levels of rusting; really shit
sometimes things change
and sometimes you get what you pay for

>>52973223
xd gets recalled for LITERALLY catching on fires

>>52967319
That's due to stuff like extremely steep business regulations, hell work regulations, not having a kind of industrial setup to do the lay down too.
If people actually started investing in it, the price would go down a lot.

>>52990148
Undersea cables aren't the problem. Starlink adds a lot of complexity and every single complexity adds time

>>52961836

Honestly it's down 70% YTD and it would be stupid not to throw some money at it long-term.

Elon is definitely being punished for turning Twitter into a shitshow the other elites hate. They will keep busting his balls until he either knocks it off or is out of the picture.

But whatever happens to Elon doesn't matter, Tesla will survive him and rebound going sooner or later.

I'm fucking buying. No regrets.

I like that those who know will never say it because it took them 10-20 years to realize... Ull never understand why some got billions and why the rest got nothing

They will never tell never explain and cover it with timed news

Do you think the meltdown has anything to do with his son's transition?

>>52961836
Twitter is the catalyst. As many have said, stock was priced at tech levels of growth, well overvalued. Twitter was the trigger to let some air out, but biggest problem Twitter highlighted is that Musk is not a god anymore to, in essence, his customer base. It's more complicated than that, as his customers are about showing you care, rather than actually caring (what used to be Lexus market), and if the people you're trying to impress do not care about the shit you bought, well, better buy something else.
Kind of ironic, really.
Plus, he is pissing off people with political power through twitter, and his "twitter files", and while it does highlight hypocrisy, it also means he is facing political opposition, rather than having laws bent for him.

>>52964879
we have one recession per presidential administration at minimum now, wingcuckery on a business board is retareded

>>52983402
No one gives a shit about the total weight, what matters is how much you can haul. The Tesla semi can haul about half as much as a diesel. They both hit the weight limit but the batteries on the semi are so heavy they take up a huge portion of the weight limit