/biz/ - Business & Finance

BOTTOM IS IN!

>>52938025

We're far from the bottom.

>>52938036
I'M
NOT
BULLISH
ENOUGH

>>52938053
INSANITY MEANS OPPORTUNITY

>>52938053
I'm not bearish enough.

Fight the urge to slurp, frens.

366 EOY

>>52938063

>>52938069
I did anyway.

learn from the best /smg/

Santa Rally starting tomorrow.
BUY BUY BUY

If GME is doing fine why do they need to shill their general here?

I am going to buy the bottom in BOIL

>>52938093
I'M FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKINNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGG HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG

>>52938099
The heck is GME? As in the stock?

>SI dumping 10%
I should’ve shorted harder

>>52938018
Explain this camels thing

Santa is coming to town. he will just be extremely drunk and wasted, and his rally will be small.

Look at the VIX, DXY, 10 YEAR TREASURY, TLT. This is not realllllllllllllllll

Oil companies will violently recover early 2023. Next week is a prime slurping opportunity.

>>52938082
325 eoy

>>52938130

>>52938128

I genuinely think bears are wrong. Only time will tell but I think Big Money has been buying the bottom since October and bobo is going to be whining about "but muh recession! muh inflation!" before long

>>52938130
you mean a good opportunity to get cheap drip calls

>>52938118
Oops!

>>52938046
>>52938093
If Cathie Wood were a stock what would she be valued at?

is the exchange closed next Monday?

>>52938147
Just IMAGINE every oil producer making huge cuts right when sleepy Joe pledges to refill the SPR. The massive power move to wreck that oil trade. Oil back to 100/bbl and all the majors rally 25%.

>>52938188
Yes. And also the Monday afterwards for New Years: https://www.nyse.com/markets/hours-calendars

Damn. 5 losing sessions in a row.

I bought BBBY today and I'm already up 7 dollars.

>>52938208
yeah I looked at that I just wanted a second opinion

Did you miss the memo?

>>52938128
Please remind what happens when VIX is low. Where does it go after reaching a floor? Also are you actually so dumb as to think DXY, and bonds are always inverse correlated with stocks?

>>52938186
she would be an electric car company that is valued at more than the entire conventional automotive industry combined while producing a single digit percentage fraction of the cars, with a cult following of baggies who get dumped on by the CEO until the stock valuation dumps 95% from ATH during a recession

>>52938118
CAMELS is a regulatory rating for banks. there is a score given to every bank based on those 6 factors. the score is secret to avoid a run on banks with potential issues.
in the first quarter of 2022 the total number of banks on the problem bank list went down as a net number, but the net total assets belonging to problem banks surged 120b. Meaning a bank with 120b in assets got added to the list.
the number of banks with ~120b in assets that also have risky business models is basically one. SBNY.
when it comes out that SBNY is on the problem bank list its going to be bad for them. but it also means they have issues that arent out yet that could affect their business

>>52938231
>I'm already up 7 dollars.
per share?

>>52938082
0 EOY JOJ

>>52938248
If it’s secret, how would it ever get out?

>>52938186
Same value as all women. I will leave that up to you to figure out.

>>52938219
Are there calls for emergency rate cuts and limitless QE already?

>>52938240
lawlz/10

>>52938248
If the number of banks went down, doesn’t that mean the net total assets would have dropped by the amount of those bank’s holdings? So it would need to be a bank with more than 120 in assets?

I've been bagholding $30k cost basis of SQQQ for 40 days now. I went from -$7,500 loss at the lowest point to breaking even today.
Dubs decides if I continue to hold or close the position.

>>52938238
A...a second opinion? Whatever. These are the CME's hours for >futures: https://www.cmegroup.com/trading-hours.html

>>52938314
has been all year, have you been paying attention?
boomer portfolios have been -30%'d so far

>>52938333
trips means you decide

>>52938314
I've given up on making those posts.

>>52938333
just close it bro play it safe

>>52938314
>emergency rate cuts
Powell has absolutely hinted at "slowing the pace or pausing" more than once. Read between the lines
>limitless QE
The printers never turned off, just continued under different names

>>52938314
IM FOOOOOOOOOOOOOKIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVVVVVVVVVVVVVOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

>>52938333
we're literally on the next leg down bro

>>52938257
No total investment, now im 9 dollars up. Couple more dollars and maybe I'll buy a pizza with my new found fortune.

>>52938046
Cathie Would more like it amirite fellas

>>52938345

God, shorting the market with max leverage after the FOMC release last wednesday was the easiest short in the history of shorts. Literally the fed announcing they don't give a FUCK about good economic prints anymore, they want to see unemployment hit 5% and until it does they're just going to keep choking out the economy until they get what they want. CPI came in soft? Don't care. GDP declining? lol w/e. The best part of the presser was when Jerome took pains to make it as clear as possible that the FOMC unanimously bumped up their dot plot by half a percent even with FULL KNOWLEDGE of the day before's rosy CPI print.

Look, this is easy. You know 6 months ago when bad news was good news because it meant the fed would have to pivot sooner? Well now all good news is bad news because the fed has made clear they DO. NOT. FUCKING. CARE. about good news any more. Not until there are bread lines in the street again at the very least. At a bare minimum we're going to see at least 10% beneath previous lows on all the major indices in H1 23. Just short it all and come back in 6 months to free money.

Damn the fuck happened with natty gas?

>>52938082
3738 eoy, the power of digits will confirm.

>>52938365

>>52938291
the score wont come out, but the factors that caused the bad score will come out. it could be breaching anti money laundering regulations and risk management. which is what i suspect due to their crypto horseshit.
>>52938332
its impossible to know. it just means that a bank with ~120b got added. the net number dropping could mean that 2 banks both with $60b got added while 4 with 0 got dropped.
this is just guess work. if the information was out, this wouldnt be as good of a potential trade.

>>52938333
Close it until spring and buy into something with a dividend

>>52938241
Are you so dumb to think i would think that? The bond market was crashing with the market this entire year...

DXY was trading inversely to the markets this entire year you faggot....

Markets are worried about recession and the bond market doesn't believe the Fed will continue raising interest rates. They are playing CHICKEN with the FED.

>>52938366
Cathie Wood count have fucking GOT it in 1980

FUCK
I told ChatGPT to write a script to ask my female broker on a date, and it said that was inappropriate
>It would be inappropriate to ask your broker on a date through a voicemail message, as it could make her feel uncomfortable or put her in an awkward position. It's important to maintain professional boundaries in the workplace, and asking someone out on a date is a personal matter that should be done in person or through a more private form of communication.

>>52938395
Yeah bonds are crashing today tardo (after a dead kot bounce)

IT'S OVER

>>52938384

>>52938414

>>52938414
>into year end
do they think the new year will make things bullish again?

>>52938399
ChatGPT confirmed to be a bitch ass pussy and also confirms AI is NOT the future.

>>52938414
OH SHIT WE'RE BACK.

>>52938414
sounds bullish

>>52938151
Markets factually bottomed in september. S and P will pump back to 4100 by week's end. /smg/ is genuinely one of the worst threads on 4chan because people see number go down and they're like "IT GO DOWN FOREVER" and short the bottom.

But markets will retest the bottom in january.

This is not different than any other recession.

I'll buy in at 3750 and nobody can stop me.

Fuck u Skywalker shills. Jfc Asts shills too. I’ve lost so much money

>>52938344
your dubs confirms!
I will... KEEP IT OPEN BABAAAAAAY

Are we limited in how much AMC we can buy?
I can't buy anymore for some reason

Luv me kornhesier posting, hate the gook poster simple as

>>52938416

I FUCKING CAPITULATE

FUCK THESE SPY CALLS

>>52938449

>>52938466
Same I just sold, down 300 for the day. Fuck me

>>52938437
>Factually bottomed
According to what metric(s)? And what would even be the catalyst for a retest in January?

Vix is still down

>>52938437
is this factual bottom (not your bf) in the room with us right now?

>>52938484
According to the price. Just open a chart.

>>52938477
at least you arent holding DRIP puts. I tried to sell Friday and robinnigger wouldnt fill my order.

Oooooooooo

>>52938466
bottom is in kek

>it goes red
>dont sell
>wait for it to turn green
>sell

>>52938502
calls, im a retard.

Damn, we toasted 4 weeks of S&P gainz in 1 week.

>>52938507
>powell
whats funny is powell literally said "i am raising rates" and then bulls were shocked he raised rates

I kept trying to tell you that SOXL was going to 8.30.

>>52938399
Correct. Ask her in person or personally.

>>52938527
20 years of unlimited QE has made the investor class retards

>>52938484
>>52938497
Because the market historically bottoms in october. All you retarded niggerfaggots are constantly calling for the Infinite Recession where markets just keep going down forever until you have to pay money to keep holding bleeding bags. There is no reason for the recession to be different this time, besides what you think makes sense in your head.

>>52938399
damn the ai do really be less autistic than me

>>52938545
my favorite band of retard are the bulls warning of deflation and saying they need the printer turned back on to save us from it

>>52938414
Why would they let retail goyim know this? Is this a counter signal or is this genuine?

>>52938554
i't b-bb-bottomes in o-ctober because it just does ok, ugh, it just does!

>still dropping
what the FFFUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!

>>52938536
to be fair it did kind of melt up in the short term right after that post

>>52938535
bro one of her toes not looking so good...

>>52938554
The recession hasn't even started getting priced in. This year was all about rates.

>>52938554
The bear's thesis is simple. Inflation has peaked. I don't know anything about October lunar cycles but we'll see how it works out

>>52938560
>band of retard
How many of them are there like small garage band (3) or Ska Band (18) ? what are we talking?

>>52938554
Your mom historically bottoms when I'm over at your house

And just like that, I'm losing all of my money again!

say it with me folks
HIGHER

I was promised power hour.

>>52938584
>Inflation has peaked
that's cute... You know how many artificial variables and changed definitions they have done to "halt" inflation?

>2022 trusting any govt. statistics. Have fun and good luck sweet summer child.

FOR

>>52938389
That chart is also pretty old. Any updates?

Warner bros..

>>52938579
I think you are a gay.

>>52938589
boom- roasted.

LONGER

Why is VIX down today?

>>52938602
CRAB-ER

>>52938631
THEY NEED ANOTHER 5 BILLION DOLLAR MOVIE WITH BLACK TRANS LEAD CHARACTERS NOW!

>>52938643
Comfy combo deal ngl

>>52938647
because VIX isn't an inverse spy ETF you monkey
the lower VIX goes the closer we are to a big volatility spike event

>>52938647
look up how VIX is computed

>>52938613
We'll have power hour as soon as I sell my calls (I wont today)

>>52938025
WHERE THE FUCK IS POWER HOUR!?WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU SANTA!? HOW THE FUCK DO WE HAVE A WEEKS WORTH OF RED DAYS?! FUCK YOU JEROME. FUCK YOU SPY CALLERS WHO SOLD TODAY. IM HOLDING FOR A BOUNCE. GIVE ME A BOUNCE JPOW!

lets see cathys do-

I will never financially recover from MVIS

>>52938671
Anon pls.

>>52938613

>>52938623
yes, the 120b is still on there as of 2Q which is the most recent data

hello? yes I would like to speak to George SPY about getting a refund.....

>>52938686
Cancelled this year, better luck next time

>don't get married to your stocks
but I was told buy & hold is best

I just went red for the first time this year. I am straight up not having a good time

>>52938701

slow crawl downward = bearish sentiment losing strength. rest of the week we’re green.

>>52938692
Wtf, imagine not making money on MVIS last year

>>52938725
>a week+ straight of blood red
BOTTOM IS IN SANTA RALLY ATH EOY

>>52938527
Literally no one was shocked that he raised rates, that's the most retarded thing I've heard. The lack of shock is why it's bullshit that we're dumping.

>>52938720

>>52938718
>dude weed lmao

VVIX. They don't understand.

They wind stops. The air goes still. The trees stop moving entirely.

The birds stop chirping.

VVIX. Look at VVIX.

And keep an eye on it.

should i sell my tesla puts? i was up bigly at one point then got hit with 2 scam pumps.

>>52938725
I hope you're right

>>52938620
Bro the metric everyone loved to use to define inflation (muh gas prices) has very clearly been tanking over the last couple months

>>52938708
Interesting. It’s been there for a while now. What makes you think this earnings will be the big reveal?

>>52938757
Prakesh, I gotta know, have you *actually* made money trading VIX?

>>52938749
Last week we were at $410, how it has not even tried to bounce is what I don’t get.

>>52938757
The Forest Is Literally Too Dark To See Anything

>>52938749
50 bepis was obvious
what was not obvious was the dot plot showing no cuts planned until 2024, and a 50 bepis higher terminal rate
you permabull niggers are so fucking dumb its unreal

>>52938755

>>52938758
I am 90% sure tomorrow will snap back these losses because reasons

>>52938778
Yeah I bought some calls midway through today figuring we’d rally afternoon session but nah no dice got stopped out lol I’m sure overnight it will now

>>52938535
we both know it's going much lower

>>52938781
Yeah okay cool story - and since when has the Fed kept their word? Bears suck Fed cock when it goes with their narrative but forget that the Fed changes course all the fucking time

>>52938804
im sure the fed will pivoot any day now

>>52938771
the earnings will not be the big reveal. their camels issue is eventually going to show itself - which i said my hunch is its a bsa/aml issue.
their 4Q earnings are just going to be trash.
i just hate this bank. theyve done retarded risky shit before

>>52938687
Who would buy this?

>>52938517
Simple As.

>>52938837
>it's down 90% that means it can now only go down 10% max from here.

The stock market will never go up again

>>52938820
So that’s why you’re getting long dated puts

It’s an interesting story but I want more to go on. Like all their partners collapsing and putting an endorsement from a known fraudulent actor on their webpage.

The stock market will never go down again

>>52938813
See you Feb 1st lol

How does /smg/ think FDX is going to do tomorrow? Shitty enough to affect AMZN?

>>52938861

>amc is going to zero
I really expected more from the moas crowd, lol they cant even hold positions for a couple of years it just goes to show you how fucking new they are

>>52938686
Just wait until like Tuesday or something man.

>>52938899
>amc
literally the niggers of the moass crowd

>>52938871

>>52938864
i think this is more attractive than silvergate because you can get (pretty much) in front of the death spiral and theres way more room on the way down.
also theyve been linked to retarded stable coins - which probably makes up more than 25%+ of their total deposits.

for a bank if you have no deposits growth you cant fund loans other than borrowing from the FDIC which is WAY more expensive than funding loans through deposits. their growth is fucked. their other major loan growth driver besides CRE is PE/VC which is also dying as no one is using capital call lines right now

>>52938861
it's literally straight dumping for days no relief nothing fucking joke

>>52938647
A controlled demolition isn't volatile at all

>>52938804
>and since when has the Fed kept their word?
This whole year? Your "feds are faggots they won't do shit" narrative collapsed a long time ago.

I hope the shabbos goy, anon got heemed today. I'm thinking I'll purchase some leaps before close or should I wait?

>>52938923
A month of gains gone like tears in the rain.

This market is uninvestable. Until that changes I'll keep my money in safe, reliable 6 month treasury bills.

Nasdaq is down almost 10% in the past 5 days. Can they ease up a bit and let us catch our breath? I'm getting scared.

>>52938757
I kind of miss farty pony anon

>>52938774
I'm not saying to trade VIX. I'm saying look at VVIX as a trigger to determine if SPY puts are catching a bid or not.

I have made, and lost money, by trading SPY put spreads on this basis.

The forest isn't VIX. or VVIX.

It's SPY/SPX.

The stock market will never do anything again.

>>52938951

my sources have informed me it is likely not time to slurp quite yet

>>52938923
and SPX is still flat over the past 6 months. wooptie-doo

>>52938725
People have realized the only figure that matters is weekly jobs and the last few reports have been red hot. People are going to keep selling off through wednesday as their assholes pucker up in anticipation of another hot report. They'll probably keep selling the rest of the week too after the report is as bad as they expected and real doom starts to set in, but through wednesday is a guarantee at least.

How are they still in business????

>>52938951
pretty wild

Someone I know told me to buy MDGL calls and I didn't listen to him. I want to die.

he has a literal phd in pharmacology and i still didn't listen to him because i dont trust going long on bioshits as much as going short

>>52938951
Good.

>>52938951
>I'm getting scared

>american stocks are falling harder than international stocks
>emerging markets are actually up

>DCA
>stocks keep going down

I almost have no cash left to DCA and I'm still in deep red. I think I chose some wrong stocks but selling now seems so bad. HELLUP

>>52938951
They didn't do it in 2007 and they won't do it in 2022 either.

>>52938974
Are you withholding insider info?

Am dumb, what do slurp mean?

>>52939025
n...no sir not at all haha

>>52939012
Consider buying SPY then, it'll recover eventually.

>>52938897
>>52938912
Thanks, bro. I know that video has some croppable quotes, but was too lazy to do it myself. They will come in handy.

>tfw you open the fridge and find a Cherry KO Zero you forgot about

>>52939030
going long basically

>>52939030
it's like schlop but more sucky

>>52939030
It's a racist slur against burp-anon. You shouldn't say it...

>>52938951
It should be worse, if only you knew how bad things really are
Also, happy Hanukah.

>>52939030
Buying after a drop, lowering your average hoping that the price recovers. Basically, DCA

>>52938984
What weekly job numbers?
Initial jobless claims?

>>52939030
It's what you have to do behind burger king after you lose all your money

>>52939036
I'm in a 2x leveraged SPY ETF but I'm retarded and thought I could long it.

>japan is doubling its military budget
>going to the NATO standard of 2% gdp

>>52939040
Stop drinking goyslop.

>>52939040
Gross, but pump my KO bags anyway.

3:30 scam pump’s here. Yep, I’m thinking tomorrow’s down even more.

based market shitting itself just to please my temporary hedge shorts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba2k6n-R2cU

>>52939069
With what fucking money?

>>52939071
No
It's the only thing I have to look forward to

>>52939037

>If you are down less than 20% you are outperforming the market

>>52938991
I can't believe I actually left that shipwreck (see what I did there?) early for once and even made some profit from it.

>>52939030
Top signal

The moment I try to go short is the moment this market will turn around so I have to just keep holding.

>>52939061
Ooooh, I do this whenever the prices drop in stocks I like! Thanks!

>>52939069
One rape of Nanking wasn't enough.

>>52939030
Here's an example

>>52939082
protective puts best puts

>>52938991
most other shipping stocks (their competitors) are of even lower than ZIM, and don't think any of them will have a realistic chance of going out of business anyway

>XLE will end the day green

>>52939091
i'd like to top your signal if you know what i mean

>>52939111
that's animal cruelty

>>52939087
I am down 23% this year, thank you very much.

>>52939134
Man I wish she was pale and white.

>>52939134
What emotion does that facial expression convey?

>>52939134
>I am down 23% this year
roughly in the same ball park. DCA is the only thing I can do I suppose

>>52939111
>>52939130
Trips say otherwise

>>52938951
>noo sir
>i want to pay more for my shares
???

>>52939150
thats the face you make when it goes in your butt the first time

>>52939083
>With what fucking money?

Do you think it matters if anyone has money anymore?

resume the dumping

Hedgefond Chads are buying into China

>>52939162
23% isn't too painful, so long as you're holding good companies
>>52939182
>knows what its like to be bumfucked
Lmao faggots amongst us, bois

>>52938692
I love this cow. Post more

we are going to blast through the lows of june and november at this rate

>>52939206
>doesn't know the difference between the word you and the word I

octobers bottom will be nothing compared to 2023

>>52939206
I’m convinced that half the general is gay and half of them are unabashed transexuals (men).

So what was the root cause behind today's dump ?

>>52939119
yeah just dont ride them too long, this market gathering bullish Energy

faang is dead, long live the faaang.

for long term investors. New boomer techies stocks will bost likely be AI stonks and much more Robotics. As birth rates collapse around the world and we will have quickly shrinking human population, human-type robots have to be developed do to all the dumb jobs for humans. fusion energy stonks (billy gatse and other billionaires are already bying in fusion non-listed fusion energy companies by billions dollars) and then there will be always non-suspected techies that
nobody suspected become very big like what happened with social media companies 15 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt38LPYt_eg

>>52939252
not what but WHO???

>>52939252
Probably continued reaction to the Fed's new interest rate.

I was up 30% ytd on sept 13
Now I am down 40% ytd
70% swing because I'm smart enough to use options as a hedge but retarded enough to close at a loss right before they print hardcore

>>52939252
Cool it with the antisemitism, anon

>>52939252
I think MM just wanted to torch anyone who bought over the last month.

Tomorrow we start the Santa Rally

>>52939252

>>52939226
Lmao are you really so retarded?
Your exact words:
"thats the face you make when it goes in your butt the first time"
>knows what its like
Lmfao faggot buttmad that he got called out on being a fucking faggot
>>52939239
Wrong. I'm not gay or a tranny. You're just mad that people don't like faggots.
>>52939252
Tax loss harvesting. Big normie thing, you wouldn't know about it

>>52939226
Isnt blackface super racist wtf

>>52939252
More sellers than buyers. Simple.

>>52939287
no blackface isn't racist what are you some kind of bigot? get with the times anon

3d printer companies will run the future economy from 3d printed organs to 3d printed meat... Why aren't you investing???

Santa Rally incoming and it's gonna be glorious

>>52938444

>>52939318
because it's getting shilled by a gook poster

>>52938297
"all women" do not have the same value. Some are worth more camels, goats, and sheep than others depending on an array of factors like beauty, agreeability, quality of example for children, skill at food prep, quality of in laws, etc.

>>52939318
what are some 3rd printer companies I can invest into

>>52939285
You most not be on here during rocker/scoops-hours. It’s all “bussy” this and “boi-pucci” that.

>>52938541
Put your arms around her waist and say
>listen honey, we’re tangoing tonight

>>52939318
2010 called they want their meme industry back

>>52938444
WEW lad.

>>52939340
>>52939342
>>52939347
You will eat bugs. you will take 3d fake organs. you will eat 3d fake meat. you will be happy.

We will be going back to 30K and 3500.

You will use FAKE 3d furniture and you will be happy.

>>52939378
That actually would make me pretty happy

>>52938502
What is the reasoning and frequency of issues like this?

>>52938602
For Longer

Invest in 3d printing. Invest in the future you plebs!!

>>52938046

>>52939359
god that faggot is cringe

>buy puts
>EoD pump starts
good thing I also have some calls

>>52939378
I could go for this. 3d printing is dope and furniture is fucking expensive.

This market is so fucked I'm actually looking into buying bonds.

>>52939378
Particle board sucks ass. Fuck off with this popsci shit.

>>52939206
>23% isn't too painful, so long as you're holding good companies
100% AAPL in brokerage

100% JEPI in Roth IRA

>>52939433
You will live in 3d printed houses!

>>52939226

And just like that something will never be something again

>>52939447
I mean, that's probably fine for equatorial shitholes, but anywhere white people live it's probably inadequate.

The bottom is in! Shit&Piss 500 to the moon!

BUY BUY BUY!

>>52939447
I'm..... ok with this?
Then I won't need to hire any Mexicans to put it up

>>52939402
He’s so cringe that it’s actually kind of cool. I wouldn’t have enough balls to dress like a 50s-era hot-rodder in 1997

>>52939447
>3d printed mud huts
kek so theyre finally moving up in the world

>Power 10 minutes
Uh, thanks, Jews. Happy Hanukah.

New

>>52939489
>>52939489

>>52939447
There's no way that shit remains standing after a light breeze.

>>52938749
terminal rate

>>52939206
'Good' companies that can pull cool -30% just like the rest of the market aren't good companies. Or maybe they are, but that would imply there's no reason to invest in 'good' companies in the first place.

>>52939474
no, i watched food network back then and he ushered in the faggots - that's when it changed and went to shit

>>52939150
autism mostly