/biz/ - Business & Finance

I'm sorry you zoomers have to go through this. It's like 2010 all over again, except way more gay. If you survive, you will be invincible.

>>52834914
if you don't hear back just apply again with the exact same information but mark "black woman".
If you get questioned just play dumb and there's a chance HR will think someone messed up on their end since your first application is in the system

>>52834914
In my last 10 years of job interviews, I've had only 2 come back with a rejection.
Most never answer. Just apply a lot.

>>52834914
If you don't send 1000 position-taylorer resumes every month, yngmi. You want a job, right? Then work full time on sending job applications, even to stuff you don't really want.

>>52834914
actually better than wasting time for interviews

>>52837699
>"even to stuff you don't really want."

But what if I get the job? Then I have to spend at least a year or two there to not look like a total job-hopping jackass. Wouldn't it be better to prolong the search by a couple months than work a crummy job for a couple years (assuming money isn't an immediate concern i.e. falling behind on mortgage)?

>>52834914
Did u go to the office and give the hr roasties a firmed handshake?

>>52839033
In the era of work-from-home you have to drive straight to their house. Preferably after working hours so they have time to talk.

>>52839009
Nobody cares anymore, my startup company had 3 periods of layoffs this year. Average tenure for a lot of these companies now is like 9 months according to LinkedIn stats.

>>52839194
this didn't work for me, but i get an interview with the police department shortly thereafter

>>52839235
well they hired you?

>>52834914
>Spend money to go to college to get a piece of paper.
>Can't even get hired for an entry level job.
Kek degrees are an absolute meme when you and everyone else has one. Good luck competing for entry level jobs against 150+ other people.

>>52834914
>He went to a college
Zoomers are laughing at you anon.

>>52839194
You have to suck them off and take them in your ass, or they won't let you in.

>>52834914
Being the first three applicants is crucial.

>>52834914
Just apply to everything. It really is that bad that you have to send hundreds of apps out unless you have some rare skill. Bachelors are dime a dozen.

>>52839407
>DEGREES ARE A MEME!
>ask biz anons how to get a job
>GO TO COLLEGE YOU FUCKING IDIOT

>>52834914
you have to WOW the interviewer.

>>52834914
You get used to it
t. 50 applications, 2 interviews, 1 offer

>>52839268
yes, i now gather forensic evidence on furries

>>52839489
Those anons telling people to go to college are those that went to college, got the degree and are still unemployed. They're only saying this because they want to reduce the number of applicants on the overall job market. It's an endless cycle.

Try falsifying your resume with five extra years of experience in the exact job you're looking for.

>>52839544
How do I get into a business setting without a degree?

>>52839571
does this actually work?

>>52839583
It depends where you live. I never went to university for a degree. I left school at 18 in the UK and started applying for apprenticeships. I got hired at a global fintech company with no experience or a degree. I'm still at the same company and I worked there for more than five years now.

Apprenticeships are a viable option. I started from the bottom and earned just above minimum wage. I worked full time and studied part-time to earn my qualifications. The company I'm with isn't a small or medium sized business, so they had a full apprenticeship scheme that allowed us to get a bachelor's degree at the company's expense. Each year I rotated teams and gained experience in various departments. I learnt mostly on the job and I had maybe 2-3 promotions since starting.

>>52835000
Kek

>>52834914
My CHE professor said grades don't matter and that companies want graduates with work experiance.
>Interview for five interships out of cohort of 20+ companies that had dozens of positions reserved for university students
>get humilated everytime
Great, now I lost almost all my motivation to study and get As in my classes, I don't care anymore, I just wanted a job

>>52839583
You have a friend in the business that recommends you for the job. That's how it works. That's how it has always worked.

>>52839571
but im 23 and i graduated last year

>>52840102
You can lie about your age. Harder to do if you look young though.

>>52839842
Solution: lie about work experience. Companies do not check that shit, if they do apply for somewhere else. Trust me bro.

It's literally easier to get a gf than a job

>>52839571
>>52840129
>>52840140
Lmfao this is shit advice. I'm pretty sure it's a common practice for employers to do a background check to verify your employment history. Even if you managed to land a job at a shit company, you're not going to last very long if you said on your resume you have five years of experience and can't even do the basic shit. You will be fired before or at the end of your probationary period.

>>52834914
Just get a Master's degree lol

I applied for a job that required no degree or experience and had terrible pay and once I got past the recruiter and was talking to HR I tell them about my actual qualifications and they transferred me to the job I wanted

>>52834914
Don’t be mad that you’re not passing the slave test.

>>52840207
Companies rarely do a background check on work history unless it's like security clearance level stuff. Background checks are for criminal records. At most they call references.

>>52840076
And yeah op, this poster is right. The best way to get a job is a reference. So many job postings are for legal requirements of the company, and they already have someone they are gonna hire.
If you don't have any connections your best bet is to contact a couple temp agencies. They can get you in the door, but you usually have no benefits for 3-6 months until hired on after the temp contract.

>>52840207
They might add a clause in contract that if you lie, they will demand compensation
So even better for them, you will work for free after they get their money back

>>52834914
I'm a zoomer and I can't get a job either. No reason to LARP, but I have 170k rn. (Got very lucky with crypto). I live alone and rent for $1600 a month. Yes, I know that's a waste of money, but I don't own a car so I guess it evens out. I'm in school, and I've also gotten rejected/ghosted by around 100 places. Debated joining the military, but I'll never do it. Not that desperate. Just gotta get lucky on crypto again. That's all I gotta do.

>>52842588
similar position or plan to me except age. I am 30yo, made a little less on crypto but honestly anon I am looking at side hustles and starting a brand or something. You need something you actually create to put your money into that can produce something more real than crypto and less of a liability than a stupid house.

>>52839489
The redpill is that there are no jobs.

>>52839484
Bachelors aren't a dime a dozen, that's the thing. All of this comes from the insane credential inflation which makes no sense going hand in hand with boomer bullshit.

>>52834914
Your a cuck

>>52839235
if that interview goes well you can get a free place to live with free meals. corporate perks!!

degrees are just one piece of the pie. everyone has a degree now so you need other stuff to stand out. degree + certs + work exp + personal projects. it's honestly becoming ridiculous and its going to become even worse for future generations and fucking boomers are talking shit about the work ethic of millenials and gen z when they got jobs just by walking into a place and chatting to the manager. FUCK this gay earth

>>52840944
Can confirm. I’ve been the guy that watched some poor suckers show up for an interview for a job that was guaranteed mine. They only did the whole process for legal reasons. Felt terrible for the people who wasted their time but I sure as shit wasn’t going to turn down the offer.

>>52837699
This never works. It's a complete time waste.
Just find literally the worst job you can think of and do it for six months. Then ask a cousin or friend to recommend you for something in their company that is vaguely aligned with your career goals. Do that job for 12 solid months. Then post some gay shit on LinkedIn and within 30 days you will hear from a recruiter. It's that simple.

If you apply to 1000x random places you will get 999 disappointments. 1 will hire you for 5 months and then fire you and you won't even be able to use the referral and it will stunt your career for a decade because you will look unhireable due to a weird gap in your resume.

what an unfulfilling existence

There's less competition for hiring paying jobs. Aim higher.

>>52834914
Damn, shame you weren't an older zoomer. Looks like you new zoomers are graduating into an economy equal to or worse than what existed from 2008 to 2014. Get ready, pretty soon millenials and genx are gonna be applying to fast food jobs en masse (not memeing) and zoomers are going to be shut out from the job market. You won't even be able to get a job with benefits until 2024 and even then it'll probably only pay you $17 or $18 per hour starting wage, if you're really lucky

>>52834914
>applying for entry level jobs with a bachelor's degree
Found your problem.

>>52834914
I sent like 150+ applications to entrey level jobs.
Heard back from 3.

1. One had me record interview answers in a video. Never heard back after sending it.

2.Another one was a "heheh you actually will have to work 13hrs a day but we'll only pay you 8hrs hehehehe"

3.Third one the people were actual humans so I took the job

>>52834914
>bachelor's degree
you can use it to wipe your ass while you pursue actual credentials
try knee pads, OP

>>52835000
this but keep a tape recorder in your pocket and sue them for discrimination after you dont pass the interview

>>52844482
>zoomers think real life is a project veritas larp
they just email you standard rejection
and you're 100% going to be rejected for falsifying basic personal information because it shows you're unhinged
and you're also probably going straight to junk for applying twice in a short period of time
nice try though, NEETbro

it's never been easier to get a job

>>52839489
The problem isn't that college isn't important. It's that you HAVE to go there to stand chance.

Boomers ruined this world and Covid was their punishment.

Working is for plebs in any case, but you're a dumb dog if you believe in "work hard" meme at some big company. You're that weird ugly guy who gets all the work because you failed to grasp that IRL is not a meritocracy (it actually is, but you'd have to have a very high IQ to understand how).

Unless working for yourself or following some real passion, here's the guide to working:
>show up, do fuck all day
>try to look like you are doing something though
>social standing matters more than if you're a good worker
>take your time to gauge how much is the bare minimum and stick with it
>never do a great job because then the expectation is to deliver
>put as much work as possible on others
>call in sick as much as possible
>take as many days off as legally possible
>be as selfish as legally possible without being fired

If you care about "hard work" start your own firm and stop being a cuck.

I work for a few months in a year, do nothing but save up, and then have no work for the remainder of the year to pursue things I care about. I don't have a career, and normoids are quick to point that out, but they're also envious of my lifestyle and wish they had the guts to do the same

>>52844631
t.Larping NEET

>he went to college
>he obeyed the commands
>he didn't see the writing on the wall and intrinsically rebel
>he didn't see school as an obvious scam since 8th grade
>he didn't believe in his own vision instead of picking a "major" to get programmed
>he will still fret about this thinking he was wronged, yet the solution was obvious

should have been a fucking delivery driver or lived with your parents and worked at mcdonalds, unironically

I'm signing up for instacart and doordash and I started my own farm, things that literally take 0 credentials to get into, which is based and redpilled

your last chance is to buy monero

>>52844708
>literal cab driver stock tips
growing weed in your mom's closet is not "starting a farm" either

>>52844722
my farm is legit and should make me 150k in a year from now

temporarily it's not big enough to sell to wholesalers, but just a few minor modifications that would take less than 1000 dollars to install would make it capable of that

instacart is literally a way to scam stupid people, it's one of the easiest jobs on earth yet you can still get 25 dollars an hour from it with no "experience"

>>52834914
You should just go to a construction site and ask for a labouring job, sorted

>>52837699
>just prostrate yourself infront of me goy
>pin yourself up on the cross infront of me

>>52844686
LMAO.
If that helps you cope with being a bottom feeder, go for it. Same way a Medieval serf was at least doing "honest work".

I can guarantee you're either a complete dupe in your workplace or you've never worked a day in your life and have naive ideals about what it really is like.

>>52834914
Maybe dont gt a worthless degree retard?
I get about 15-25 offers through headhunters and shit per month.

>>52840918
If this is actually true I want to test it myself. I want to see if I can get one of the rare remote jobs in my shit cuntry where everyone has some sort of technology-related degree by lying about everything.

What do I put on my CV?
What do I tell them if they call me or I have to meet them in person first? What if they get suspicious if I say I worked for some company that doesn't exist anymore or whatever?

Just work for the government, they take anyone remotely qualified

>>52834914
I lied about having a degree and I'm 2 years in at a 90k/year job that's WFH, zoomer.

>>52845108
what kind of degree

>>52845186
Bachelors in CS, they never cared to check. I don't even write code anymore, just send and reply to emails.

>>52845195
did you even meet up for an interview or did the process all happen over phone/net?

>Hundreds of applications
>Tailored CV's for each job position type
>Well written cover letters addressing key criteria relating it back to my skillset
>0 interviews or callbacks
>Lucky to receive an email saying my application was unsuccessful

I'm currently employed as a full stack dev, I wont be by the end of the year, I genuinely don't understand. The tech market has completely shit the bed here. Last year I was flooded with offers and now its complete radio silence, like I've been put on a do not hire list. I've started applying for entry level positions. I'm going from $140k/yr to $0/yr, I'm worried I'll slip back into NEETdom if I'm long term out of work

>>52845589
Tech cut all the fat, it was long overdue.
Learn to… I dunno. Weld?

Wageslavery is so demoralising and humiliating, feels good being a retired NEET living off staking income.

Are data entry and analyst wfh jobs any good? A lot of these look like they're very basic "ask questions or look at data" or freelance shit, with probably very basic pay. Should I take several of them?

>>52845589
where the FUCK are you. or do we assume it's ameriburga when you don't say

>>52834998
this

>>52834914
kek

The next step is getting offers that are only 50k/year when you have a STEM degree and 4 years experience

>>52834914
You are supposed to get an internship

>>52834914
Lie about your experience

>>52844828
>I get [...] offers through headhunters
wanna know how I know you're completely full of shit?

>>52837699

If your labour is so worthless that you have to work this hard to land an undesirable job it's basically over. Starting at the bottom with no human capital from a job nobody else wanted, it's virtually impossible to move up the ladder. Either claim disability and get max neetbux or find a way of earning money online or you're fucked basically.

>>52846110

Sounds comfy enough but boring and WFH always nice as it means minimal NPC interaction. Yeah if you don't have a job and that's your best option definitely take it.

>>52834998
>If you survive, you will be invincible.
Is that a good thing? I have ended up growing out a giant beard and hardly ever smile anymore except during family birthdays and holidays — I'm starting to look like pic related.

>>52845213
Kek
>why yes anon we will pay you 80k after only texting and email

>>52847487
Unironically me too :( except shits going well and I already have a job lined up after I graduate. Shits just been a grind

Took me six months after finishing uni.

>>52834914
I thought there was a labour shortage in nearly everything these days

>>52847533
I'm secured in my nepotism corporate job that I have had for over 2 years now and have gotten all my friends positions as well, but I certainly don't feel good. At best it is boring, at worst I get days that feel like a humiliation ritual.

>>52847526
Well how the fuck should I know? burger anons just post constantly about how easy it is without giving any details, so I have to assume they can get away with anything

>>52847571
There’s always a shortage of suckers.

Just be handsome and funny

>>52847651
Naw maybe if you’re applying to Wendy’s. Everyone on 4chan is larping btw

>>52847641
Fag. I worked hard for my position. I’m a first gen Latino and I’m going to get into Investment Banking on my own. Daddy’s money kids make me sick.

>>52847641
Btw you should feel humiliated. Imagine daddy having to baby sit you and your friends. KEK. Laughable

>>52835000
I never put down my skin color on resumes seems like a stupid idea.

>>52834914
get used to it bucko. keep on trucking.

>>52834914
Put that you’re a black trans woman in the application you’ll get a call within the same day.

>>52834914
>entry level jobs

You're full of it. You just too proud to apply for jobs you can actually get.

>>52835000
>>52848799
checked & this
don't fake work experience or age though, they'll shit you out immediatly

>>52847641
Nepotism - kek what a faggot - I’m sure everyone around you laughs at you but you just don’t realize it

>>52849047
Lmao - f2m black tranny Is even better - biological women with grafted on BWC - what better way to become employable

>>52844554
You don’t have to go to college, it is for fucking retards. Sorry brainlets, but I’m soaking up a valuable 90k/year finance job working at a hedge fund and I never completed a single semester of college, all because I actually have passion for the industry and learned everything about it.

>>52847526

I had one video call before receiving 110 euro / h, about 200k euro per year.

>have bachelors degree in [field] only apply for jobs related to [field]

NGMI

Thats called life man

>>52849187
I just got declined for a fucking $18 per hour customer service job at a fintech company and I have a financial services degree

>>52851583
Next time leave your degree out of the resume, you are overqualified for the job. No I'm not kidding.

>>52851792
Man I hate clown world

>>52837745
>>52839009
>>52837699
>>52836190
>>52835000
>>52834998
>>52839439
>>52839453

Apply for restaurant jobs, They're always hiring

>>52852038
Just include your work referrals and a brief list of things you did in your other job.
DO NOT INCLUDE:
race
Sex
Ethnicity
Religious background
Political stance.
Do include:
Work history
Community service
Charities
Certificates (related to the job).

Any non salary job that you include your degree you will be passed on for being overqualified.

>>52845589
This is the reality for the next few years
The thing about rapid changing salaries like this is that it will affect everything else like dominos. You aren't alone, there's hundreds of SWE/full stack devs that are already being faced with $0 or salary cuts to the tune of $100k, most recently saw a post on /g/ where a guy who was paid $250k was offered, get laid off, or take a salary cut down to $165k.

The thing is, that guy has probably built himself around that salary, so now he is faced with the dangerous decision of seeking other work during a recession for similar pay, or taking the L. He'll probably have to sell his house, and overall downsize his life. This is how the real estate market will begin it's spiral, when people like this are forced to downsize their lives because they took salary hits.
And on top of all this, it's amazing that chatGPT was introduced during these tumultuous times, normally I'd say "yeah the sector could bounce back by 2025" but anymore it seems like AI is significantly raising the bar of entry, so these salary cuts could honestly be permanent and I don't think tech workers are ready for that truth either.
Not to mention that this will curb consumer spending by a lot, you think people are gonna take salary hits and continue spending the way they did? No, I think most of these tech workers will try to sustain their lives as long as possible to try and "wait out the recession" and only the strongest among them will make it out the other side.

Been in the financial sector for over a decade , so if this hits tech like it hit us in 08 when I first started, consider the above.

>>52845600
A.Is have taken most of those jobs too.
A.I has taken the jobs of many labor workers and tech field too. Only jobs not being affected are medical but once people learn that theres untapped potential in that field itll be oversaturated and be worthless exactly the same as that tech anon is right now.

>>52852101
Thanks anon I'll try this out

>>52852138
B00kmarked

>>52852101
I keep all the fluff on my LinkedIn
All my volunteer work, freelance work, etc, if they want to dive deep on me I encourage them to look at my LinkedIn, but for the actual raw resume this is good advice. You should only submit simple and clean 1 page CVs.
No they don't care about your time spent working with homeless outreach on the surface, but maybe by the third round of interviews they might be. So keep it in a place to find it, but not the first thing you send them. If that makes sense.

>>52834914
Need work experience to get work experience.
>look for internships as a way to escape the doom loop
>internship requires experience
>internship job posted 22hrs ago
>113 applicants on LinkedIn
>all pajeets and chinks
Welcome to leafland, the epicenter of clown world.

>>52850948
how did you break in? Did you know someone in the inside? I'm thinking of starting to message a bunch of people on linkedIn to learn more about the industry and hopefully click with them

>>52850948
Anon, did you forget your meds again? You're slipping back into your alt reality again.

>>52834914
Went through that for the last 10 months, finally landed a job but they're having me start low because they only promote from within.

It is what it is, I'm just glad to have money again.

>>52848696
>Daddy's money kid

Says the affirmative action and diversity hire kid.

>>52842890
They really are, anon. Unless you made connections at university, you wasted your time.

>>52845589
Why does someone with this kind of earning potential need to beg and grovel for a job? That's shit middle class corporate wagies like myself do. I would think SWEs are creative/intelligent enough to start a business

>>52854085
Anon, most people in the workforce are retards myself included. It's why it's called being a wagie because you have no other alternative. Even being a neet is starting to get hard to get into.

>>52834914
You are doing it wrong. Keep trying and you will figure it out.

>>52834914
1. Your degree is worthless, does't mean you will dobetter work
2. With a higher degree, they'll expect you want more pay. So you can fuck right off
Why not get a job more your "level"? Too afraid your degree is actually worthless and you have shit for brains?

>>52834914
Try internships
I got really lucky with an internship for a state government agency and got direct hired on the spot straight out of college. I literally have none of the qualifications for it either but my friend that works a coffee bar at a hotel still makes more than me

>>52850948
$90k is minimum wage and i say this as someone who makes $95k

>>52852375
I picked up an internship level job at a small wealth management firm with 5 employees and rolled that into different positions related to WM and then rolled that into investment banking now. I interview extremely well which helps, but I also have an extremely in-depth knowledge of finance and I work hard to grow it everyday. Lie if you have to because 99% of jobs will train you on the job. Not everyone will bite, but you’re only looking for that 1 out of 100 small business that will bite and give you a title upgrade on your resume because they need your labor, then you wow them and turn it into a lifelong referral.

>>52853407
I swear up and down. I’m not doxxing myself for obvious reasons, but you do not need college. There’s a reason some of the smartest people of the modern age hate school, universities are not a place where you learn knowledge they are a place where you learn compliance. This is because knowledge is something that you need to capitalize on, nobody will capitalize on your knowledge for you, however they will gladly capitalize on your compliance.

>>52854012
daddy’s money daddy’s money!!

>>52854480
I don’t disagree, but it’s also a pretty decent salary for how much debt I don’t have and how young I am. I know my potential is higher though you’re right

How come nobody here starts their own business or hustle and instead chooses to wait for a corporate wagie job?

I mean we have hundreds of anons with decently high IQ
In olden days people created software companies in their basement with less people

>>52854074
They are statistically not, talk about having wasted your time at university.

>>52854861
>In olden days people created software companies in their basement with less people
All of those stories were fake.

>>52854861
It takes a lot of capital to start a business. Gotta start somewhere

>>52854940
No it doesn't
It just takes a product

>>52839009
Those are for last resort and to make you feel validated. I didn't say you should accept them. View them as "practice girlfriend" if you are familiar with that r9k meme.
Better 999 disappointments and a job, than few disappointments and no job. And it does work.
>>52844764
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
>>52847351
What you miss is the fact that the moment you have 2 years of experience, recruiters will be coming to YOU. How many times do people have to repeat the example of no girls wanting you as a virgin, and then girls drooling over you once they see you have a girlfriend?

I got my first job by cold e-mailing.

>>52834914
It's been like that for at least 20 - 25 years.

What you really need is to get someone in the market or job you want to apply into and get them to help write (or better yet actually write) your resume. Hopefully they aren't shit wankers.

The last job I had, which is similar to what I have now, a manager that took over my team just came off a stint as a hiring officer within the business (I personally asked for them to run a "how to apply to jobs within the business" workshop for the team) I took lots of notes and asked a lot of questions.

Ever since then I have never been knocked back for a job. The problem is there is a lot of language, and points to hit for a lot of job types and they're not all logical.

You practically have to say you've done the job (or something very similar). Coming out of uni you would expect a level of onboarding but that just doesn't exist anymore.

>>52839009
nobody cares anymore, they expect you to go after opportunity, improve yourself, move to the next challenge, etc.

>>52854955
Explain how you would do it then

You have a product (whatever the fuck that is)
You have 0 money invested in any sort of website, promotion or visibility
You have 0 knowledge of how to run a business or anything
You live in a shitty rented basement
???
profit?

>>52855249
If you're talking about me specifically?

I make porn games
I have some money invested, and I use patreon to get more money, and f95 for visibility
I have some knowledge in how to run a business and I create invoices to show constant flow of wealth
>You live in a shitty rented basement
It's comfy as heck

I’m graduating from Uni this week for mech. Engineering with a good GPA and past internships.
Hundreds of applications sent out the past month, maybe half a dozen interviews. One had the gall to wait until the interview to say the position was $18/hr.
This fucking sucks brehs. Waiting to hear back from 2 places that had good interviews, wish me luck.

>>52852058
>They're always hiring
Because they're always firing.

>>52855942
Personally, I would never hire a phoneposter

>>52852138
>Finance sector
>Thinks AI auto correct for basic tasks will any way replace even a semi-competent SWE.
Checks out. It's funny to see people who have obviously never coded a large project claim that AI will inevitably replace the average programmer. There are way too many complexities in real world problems that AI won't be able to scale to solve for a long time. Even then, adding the context for your company's very specific domain knowledge to a program won't work well with a generalized AI model trained on open source GitHub repos and public stack overflow questions.

I mostly agree with the rest of your post though. Many SWE had been paid too much for too long and the fat was needed to be trimmed eventually. If there's ever another strong bull market these people probably won't have trouble finding jobs again. But as you said that probably won't happen for at least a few years.

>>52856192
Ok, will you hire me now?

>>52856302
I don’t know man, I already shitted out a project I’ve been waiting forever to finish but didn’t want to learn HTML for, I had the AI do all my HTML and file setups. It seems like an extremely strong tool for filling in little areas you may not be strong it.

>>52854955
Yeah, let me just take my knowledge and experience and go do a garage-band brokerage app with no money (pic is for you)

>>52854977
Make it 1 year.

Now that I've hit 1 year in my job (switched industries) I have recruiters spamming me with job opportunities. Same level of job, but paying 60% more in one case.

Am in the final round of one company already. Dunno if I'll get it, but quite funny regardless since their actual advert says they want 3-6 years of experience in this specific industry

>>52854861
i'm not sure about software specifically, but boomers and mega corps have created so much red tape that it is impossible to start businesses. im sure if you started a software company with 3 of your buddies you would get sued for not having any black women on your team

>>52844631
You just need to do the important shit and that's it. Too many people try to go the extra mile for no reason.

Calling off though is pretty bad. Better to WFH and do jack shit all day imo. Otherwise you will seriously damage your social reputation

>>52846655
I get at least 10 a month and I dropped out of ui FAGGOT

>>52854861
I am trying to do this with a Caves of Qud like video game. Also doing IT consulting with a few friends but the hard part there is finding clients.

>>52834914
yeah this market is probably rough. I'm employed and I'm still in demand, but it would suck to not be. You're competing with experienced fat that got trimmed. But someone's fat is another's entry level muscle to train.

If it makes you feel better, all this faggotry should be over soon. By March we'll have at the very least a pause in interest rate hikes.

Unless something actually breaks and we hit a recession. And by recession I mean a recession recession, not the recession we're in right now.

What field you in anyways?

I know that this is depressed whiteboi cope, but I am here to tell you as a niggerfaggot that being black and/or queer doesn't help you get a job at all. Sorry dudes, everyone is fucked, you're just a part of "everyone" for the first time in living memory.

>>52834914
Stem degrees are a high risk investment.

>>52856575
I found that thread in the archives before it was deleted, half the comments we're saying the restrictions and certifications are good things as it helps build character.

>>52852058
>apply for the bottom of the barrel
I'd rather kill myself.

seriously why dont they respond. Just say I didnt get the job you HR roastie whores

>>52857085
They toss your application in the garbage.

I make 17 an hour as a food delivery driver, there is no room for advancement

>>52857420
Damn that's sad lol
Why did it come to this anon?

>>52844631
this is unironically the way to do it. or simply work part time. normies can't into this thinking. they'll happily trade off 5 days of their week for extra money they waste on shit they don't need.

make no mistake, you are giving your life time away to someone else.

Sorry chud. we're only hiring rockstars and team players. You just aren't what we're looking for.

>>52859237
team player is semi reasonable (just means they want someone who isn't an asshole) but anyone who uses the word rockstar as a requirement and not a compliment should be shot

Apply for a gov job. Easy.

>>52834914
It’s because you have a bachelors degree, entry level jobs don’t want educated people they want idiots because they know idiots will stay whereas educated people will leave thinking they are better then doing an entry level job

>>52856495
Anon I just want to say I'm very happy to see my OC from almost 10 years ago get posted. That image brought back many memories.

>>52854977
The game ends if people stop playing it, that's the tricky part there anon

>>52834914
See >>52853216

>>52857029
God I can't wait for power hungry bureaucratic boomers to die off. But Clintons, Pelosi, and Soros have sacrificed lots of babies to Moloch to ensure they can reign supreme until a hundred years of age regardless of vices taking a toll on their bodies.

>>52834998
>except way more gay
kek
>captcha: NVG8RR

>>52842588
>$1600/mo
You know you’re paying the price of a mortgage, right? If you don’t live in a big city you’re getting absolutely fleeced paying your landlords ARM. Also if you join the military, go officer.
t. Ex military Goy.

>>52844631
As someone who worked in the military and am currently in the private sector making 100k/yr. It’s all about how well you are liked, you can be a hard worker but complete not good at communication and awkward and bosses could hate you. It’s all about as I like to say “play the game”, know the right things to say and how to act. It’s about working smart, not working hard.

>>52845589
Just learn to weld

>>52845589
Tech bubble has popped. AI is getting to the point where it will make the average tech worker, dev, code monkey completely redundant. Time to learn the trades or go back to school for engineers.

>>52834914
There's still life at the crypto world despite the terrible bear market. Staking atom and juno on the loop dex makes life easier for me, pajeets.

>>52837699
I'd rather farm internet money on a cosmos related dex than waste my time on that

Bump

>>52834914
Have openGPT write you the perfect resume for the job posting.

>>52834914
>he thinks a bachelors degree means a thing

>>52842588
Old fag here anon, unfortunately thos has been the norm since 2007 if you wetent connected, a superstar or ina high demand field.

All you can do is keep grinding away.

>>52842890
Bachelors are a penny a dozen. Colleges are just adult daycares/indoctrination centers now.

>>52834914
one of mine replied after 5 months wtf.

Add several years of fake experience.

>>52834914
I know how you feel. I have an MSc and nearly a decade of working experience, and all I can say is it’s brutal out there. It takes months of nonstop applications to get a job these days, and even then it’s no guarantee. The worst part is a lot of companies will purposely hold interviews with zero intention of hiring anyone. That way they can justify either hiring internally or snagging an H1b. And it looks like I may need to head back out there and apply for a new job.
Good luck out there Anon.

Bump.

Would you rather
>Have a job where you know you enjoy it but the pay isn't that great
Or
>Go for another job where you're not sure about it but €250 per month extra and a bit more benefits

>>52855942
Update: better paying job wants me back for a second interview.
Wish me luck & pray for me bros...

>>52870384
You got this anon

>>52834914
>Looking for a job for 3+ years handing out resumes every week
>Everyone would rather hire indians and foreigners
>All my friends are having the same issues
>Have to constantly listen to my family bitch at me on how I am a lazy shit and a leech

>>52870578
What job?

>>52871836
Literally anything

>>52872001
That explains it.

>overqualified is a thing in EU/US
do mutts/eurocucks really?
SA chads, we can't stop winning.

>inb4 Sam Bankfraud used Brazilian firm to launder money
GOOD. I fucking love LATAM tax havens and you niggers will die poor while seething at "muh third world shithole" schizoposting.

>>52870167
>Have a job where you know you enjoy it but the pay isn't that great
Literally not a single job in existence that qualifies for this is available. If you have every single degree and qualification possible after schoolcucking for like 5 years you might have a slim chance at landing an ok job with good pay in whatever least-retarded field you picked.

>>52834914
I thought it was a meme until I starte'd taking a look at the job market after not getting promoted this year. I've seen 'entry level' jobs with a requirement of 5 years experience. Mind blowing.

>>52852058
>work together with druggies, serving drinks to raging alcoholics and bottom of the barrel scum
No thanks.

This seems like an American thing.
I graduated from a local uni with a kind of shitty degree (Economics) and managed to get offered entry level positions offered before I graduated - and this is in the UK where the economy is the worst in the western world at the moment (in my opinion).

Aren't you required to do a placement for your degrees over there? Also, I got emails every week on career networking events through my uni email

>>52872676
I got into a job like that recently on my six years of experience, now I'm doing entry-level work for L3 pay. It's pretty based

>>52872116
I'm finishing up an internship and they offered me a contract however, it's a bit underpaid compared to other offers I've received.

BS, MS, second MS here. 3 months of applying ~300 applications and only a few interviews. Every interviewer basically centers on what I DONT know. Last one wanted 5 years Python experience for entry level and paid like 50k/yr. Planning to ESL in asia if my savings runs out. Nothing left.

>>52834914
I recommend adding some color to your resume.

>>52840197
It's actually the other way, at least when it comes to the securing the bag part of a job. During the peak of the bullrun, I saw someone post how it's unironically easier to become a millionaire than get a gf

>>52848696
Dirty, stinky spic mutt, ewww! To even think of all the diseases you harbour, you disgusting monkey, go home!

>>52840207
Not true, I was working two jobs until a third round of layoffs hit my first employer last week. My second employer asked for references months after I started the first job and I used my previously laid off manager and a friend who put in a good word and pretended I worked for him in the past. I've never been called out and even attended meetings in both jobs at the same time before. Some people apparently hold up to 5 jobs at once as software engineers.

>>52834914
OP just walk in to the jobs you want and ask to speak to the manager. Your odds of getting that job will go up 90%

>>52845589
Similar story in Australia, my LinkedIn is suddenly dead, all these faggots think that the work is plentiful but they're cruising in their full time positions from the good times

yeah unemployment is at historic lows, and there's lots of jobs in retail and min wage services. the "middle class" high pay nice condition tech job market is getting gutted

>>52875554
ahh shit Im a leaf thats been applying in aus

>>52834914
Go to building and ask to speak to manager. Personability is at a premium in current year.

>>52852138
>Not to mention that this will curb consumer spending by a lot, you think people are gonna take salary hits and continue spending the way they did?
the end of twitchsluts and onlyfans and other creepy tech virgin wastes of money

been there

>>52837699
>>52834914
this does not work at all. Getting a job that you're qualified for is mostly luck. Just send as many as you can and one will get back to you