/biz/ - Business & Finance

there will be no pivot
market is wrong and retarded as always

i shouldn't have sold those naked spy calls

EVERY PREMARKET PUMP BEFORE CPI HAS BEEN FOLLOWED BY A MEGA DUMP
TREAD LIGHTLY ANONS

oh no you bought a lot of options? best we can do for you is an ultra crab.

>futures
Its over bobo

>>52846068 how to short oneself?

has anyone tried calling jerome powell and asking him if he will pivot?

european mumu here , should i sell right now and go short ? Pls respond

>>52846179
life insurance or disability policy, duh

Anyone not buying FTSE 0dte puts here hates money

>>52846184
go long oil

DAX shorter bros... How you holding up

>>52846242
anyone who buys 0dte options hates money actually, retard-kun

Everyday the yield curve looks more gay.

Fucking hell futures are pumped, CPI leaks already?

>>52846257
Why? I heard oil was going down to 65

>>52846257
Why should i long oil?

did CPI leak?

>>52846261
Eventually I'll care enough to find out what that is. Not anytime soon, but at some time in the mid to distant future maybe

Even if CPI is low, the market will not rally because fed is tomorrow

>>52846317

>>52846259
Imagine saying this a month ago

>>52846284
>>52846295
China reopening

>>52846295
because the forecast for industrial production is negative

Bought XLK straddles cuz too poor for QQQ's

>>52846301
>>52846276
yes. this is what's being passed around financial twitter

The Fed will raise 75bps
The Fed will raise 75bps
The Fed will raise 75bps
The Fed will raise 75bps
The Fed will raise 75bps

>>52846325
ive been saying this since september when i came to this thread

nobody makes money reliably daytrading except scalpers. it's impossible to predict day to day price movements over a long term basis. 0dte is a hugely degenerate strategy that people martingale on because they are gamblers 100%. still less stupid than actually gambling though, it's just not investing in my opinion.

>>52846341 now wait a moment anon...

FTSE 0dte puts are priced at 0.3% of the index.
It's a 5:1 payoff but odds are 66%

>>52846359
I can't believe non-insiders actually trade 0dte and think its not gambling. Its literally a slot machine. I used to wonder how so many people would trade options when there's so much to know and I don't even feel confident doing it yet after watching 5 hrs+ of youtube tutorials but its just because they're irredeemable degenerates with no actual strategy.

are you ready for this?
>pic related

>>52844614
keep going anon, i'm interested

>>52846389
Yup, basically flip a coin. I used to be a vanguard boomer investor and after today whatever happens I'm going back to that boomer life. Trading daily is stressful and I suck at it

btw ULTRAKEK at AMD troons

Us Intelsisters also got raped but not nearly as bad - so we WON.

>>52846389
yes options are only for when you are REALLY right, and i doubt anyone can be REALLY right in a 1 day time period.
for earnings i guess it's less stupid, but any other day it seems like complete statistical noise whether a stock goes up or not

>>52846182
Ya he just laughed, quite rude desu

>>52846439
Or very wrong. You have fixed losses for options plays

FTSE 7470 puts are currently 25.

Buying vix also extremely smart here

>>52846370
gonna be me in a few days when my vacation starts

>>52846451
that is true, i tend to buy it when i expect a huge upward spike or nothing. i am in SWBI and POWW because i expect guns to boom again when elections heat up again with assholes pushing gun control

>>52846473
Lol stupidest thing you can do right now.
ATM 0DTE strangle pricing over 100 points move.

>>52846504
Imagine believing that it won't move 100

If crude oil doesn't go sub 70 in the next 4 hours im hanging myself

>>52846524
Iv crush will still hit you

>>52846525
>betting against oil
w

>Futures

>>52846556
bearish

>>52846564
What a bunch of freaks. Didn't they warn everyone about a 4% drop last cpi.

>futures

https://youtu.be/zd7c5tQCs1I

>>52846415
45 minutes until

>>52846564
why dont they make the probabilities look like they actually made a calculation instead of guessing and arbitrarily assigning a value lol

>>52846595
>screen caps spread inorganically over social media
filename, check it

>>52846595
DELETE THIS

>>52846564
> Up 10%
Holy shit, then again we're half way there before the release. I truely don't understand the market

>>52846564
>5% chance
why people seething at this so much?

Vix computer

Who is shorting right now ?

MDB is above 205 now.

I guessed every cpi correctly, but this was one is hard to predict.

>>52846670
Da bears did on Friday.

>>52846679
what's your guess then?

>>52846564
I will laugh if we hit the 5% nuke across the board

>>52846564
They really think there is a 75% chance of a green day?

>>52846564
it dropped prev. month from 8.2% to 7.7% we going up to 7.9% again, the big drop was a fluke
30 min. remaining

I guessed every cpi incorrectly, but this was one is easy to predict.

>>52846682
your imageposting is impeccable, man

I'd say there is a 66% chance we drop 5%

>>52846694
t.

>>52846415
30 minutes

when CPI?

>>52846696
Thanks, anon. I'll be here. I'm always here. You can check out, but you can never leave.

>>52846686
I feel like inflation hasn't moved whatsoever this past month. So I'm guessing 7.7. Idk why people are expecting inflation to drop drastically. We barely got the unemployment to move higher after heavy rate increases.

>>52846723
i've been on and off for the past few weeks or so. Are you the switch army knife anon that rocker interviewed recently? Your posting has this kind of aura

>>52846722
tomorrow go back to sleep

I hope it's a kino day.

>>52846742
wtf no tell me

Hey buddy, I got your CPI leak right here!
>*pisses on u*

>>52846750
how about you scroll up one (1) post you dumb nigger
can't believe you iq monkey even have money to put into the market

>>52846740
Nah, I wouldn't talk to that freak. I do enjoy a good Leatherman, though.

>>52846759
Buloish

I just went short on s&p500 with a x40 leverage. Wish me luck , maybe this time i will make it

>>52846765
you're still cool, keep it up mate

>>52846737
Mostly cuz energy is cheaper (lower oil and shit) also cheaper hotels, medical care and airlines or something

>>52846777
You're gonna make it.

>>52846737
frozen, canned, and processed food is still expensive as fuck.

>>52846777
nice digit's frog. Good luck

BREAKING: CPI HOTTER THAN EXPECTED!

Bot spam intensifies

>>52846831
Proofs?

>>52846855
Maybe proof deez nuts?

>>52846118
>2018
The joke is that if I could go back to 12/07/2018 my life would probably be better.

>>52846777
Checked. This is stupid, but good luck. Kek has smiled upon you.
t. have been x1 short since January.

everything except oil is more expensive and energy is 7.5% of CPI
can't really drop big, even with oil down in Nov.

>>52846881
Meat has been cheaper, but a lot of other grocery items are still expensive.
Eggs are still high, and anything with a long shelf life is still expensive.

There's still time to close your degenerate gambling positions and not get ruined

>>52846881
Rent prices have stalled and come down a bit.

Who else wants to short yesterday's rally this morning?

Playing with about $80k of my $500k liquidity.

>>52846910
How? Besides jews who else can trade during the premarket?
I wanna take profit on my TQQQ

CPI 7.9%

>>52846910
>There's still time to close your degenerate gambling positions and not get ruined
You're saying this for people playing the CPI in ways like rent money options, all-in leverage, etc?

>>52846881
Cpi is coming in HOT AS FUUUUCK

>>52846916
I dunno, man. Shelter is a big piece of the CPI pie, and rent prices have been going down according to articles I've seen.
How are house prices?

VIX will be over 30

>>52846257
Cramer wills it

Can somebody shut down his bots.

The fiat ponzi scheme is collapsing as the FED is unable to control inflation

So if CPI down... stocks and crypto go up?

You fuckers have no idea how short I am

>>52846855

>>52846910
Learn from my mistakes. Made 200 to 140k over 3 months only to loose it in 1 day with 0dte puts

>>52846934
Since he knows people are inversing him, could Cramer being saying the opposite of what he believes these days? Maybe to truly inverse Cramer we must not inverse Cramer.

>>52846963
5'10 king of manlets

Bobos assemble
Waiting for that 7.9% print to open my 100x short to 3300

>>52846963
Burry just confirmed he's a midget. nothing stock related

>>52846955
Only if it's down by as much as the market expects.

CRUDE OIL IS GOING TO GO DOWN RIGHT GUYS I CANT TAKE IT MUCH LONGER

>>52846919
Ask your rabbi for premarket trading. Worked on my machine.

>>52846967
>Already has it better than most.
>Tries to "make it" anyway.
Many such cases.

>>52846415
>5 minutes before CPI
S&P500: 4016
Nasdaq: 11,787
Dow: 34,203
DXY: 104.412
10yr: 3.579%
2yr: 4.365%
WTI Jan: 73.81
Natty gas Jan: 6.91
BTC: 17515

>>52846564
Imagine betting all your money on this with a long
70% chance you win
30% chance you lose
Meaning that there is a 70% chance to get a good ending
But I don't trust this and probably would end up going short,cause it never works out like this

Powell came out 2 weeks ago saying he doesn't want to crash markets, don't be surprised if he gives us 25 bps.

>>52846993
>doesn’t post the VIX
Can someone please escort this house nigga off of my fucking thread?

How many hours till CPI drop?

>>52846359
I got interviewed for a reality show where they were trying to find millionaire day traders betting large sums.

I said good luck and tried to explain to the retarded gorilla negress that these people don’t exist because daytraders are fucking poor losers

Last call predictions? 7.1% for me

>>52846998
25 bepis would be an alpha centari mission.

>>52847008
Literally 3 minutes

>>52846993

7.9%
>7.9%

Here it comes bobos the big short of the year

>>52846998
>Powell
Literally has no power. Just a stooge for zionists.

I CANT TAKE THE SUSPENSE

>>52846963
Listen here little baby, you are gonna get a lot of hurtful comments from the chuds here. I always knew you were a manlet. If anything it will be me that will be in the kitchen. Shorting is great until the bear market rally fucks you over. Stay safe bb.

Cool or Hot /SMG/?

>>52846995
>>52846564
If you are a gambler you will want to all in on long
There is no downside
70% chance to win
And you win big, 5% of hitting 8-10% with the probability of only losing 5% at 5%

Will it do anything to my Oats (March 2023)?

>>52847013
7.4%?

Buy the OIL dip.

I love reporting
you just know the shitposter is going to seeth over it

>>52847038
hot hot hot

Just bought a shit load of vix

T-minus 10 seconds

SPY is mooning holy shit
wtf was that

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?!

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>>52847040
High CPI = more hikes = stronger dollar = lower paper oat price.

HOLY SHIT INFLATION IS GONE

who cares about cpi

IT'S OVER
>for my shorts

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WTFWT

>COOL
Cool
>COOL
Cool
>COOL
Cool
>COOL
Cool
>COOL
Cool
>COOL
Cool

OMG

AMC is about to moon for no reason today, isn't it?
fuck, shoulda bought calls yesterday

German numbers were a foreshadow

lol

BOBO ARE YOU OKAY

im the anon who went short with a x40 leverage

This is is cool posting zone

CPI (YoY) (Nov) 7.1% 7.3% 7.7%

BIDEN FIXED INFLATION
THANK YOU MR BIDEN

my puts...

>>52847011
Maybe they just meant someone watches the market every day professionally, and not someone who enters and closes all their positions day to day (or at least never holds over a weekend).

But yeah there were studies 90% of daytraders never beat the market. And the larger your networth is the harder it is to trade your sum of cash daily without getting fucked by spreads

Reminder

Bottle rocket

>>52847100
lmao

>>52846993
>2 minutes after CPI
S&P500: 4,112
Nasdaq: 12,160
Dow: 34,839
DXY: 103.425
10yr: 3.555%
2yr: 4.197%
WTI Jan: 74.27
Natty gas Jan: 6.941
BTC: 17,842

>The Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) rose 0.1 percent in November on a seasonally adjusted basis, after increasing 0.4 percent in October, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Over the last 12 months, the all items index increased 7.1 percent before seasonal adjustment.

>The index for shelter was by far the largest contributor to the monthly all items increase, more than offsetting decreases in energy indexes. The food index increased 0.5 percent over the month with the food at home index also rising 0.5 percent. The energy index decreased 1.6 percent over the month as the gasoline index, the natural gas index, and the electricity index all declined.

>The index for all items less food and energy rose 0.2 percent in November, after rising 0.3 percent in October. The indexes for shelter, communication, recreation, motor vehicle insurance, education, and apparel were among those that increased over the month. Indexes which declined in November include the used cars and trucks, medical care, and airline fares indexes.

-https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cpi.pdf

I JUST NEED 400 AGAIN TODAY TO EXIT MY PUTS

>>52847103
Dam rip

>>52847013
ding ding ding
guess I was right

Meh another day another liquidation.. things seem to never work out as a career bear, tired of this shit.

>>52847108
>>52847106
>>52847110
>>52847121
AHHHHH MY EYES BROTHERS IT'S SO FUCKING GREEEEEEEEEEEEEN

The dip in OIL is what keep inflation steady. Good luck in January when we are at all time low for inventory

>>52846118

>>52847156
Inventory not needed. We're doing an inflation-free recession.

>only 0.2% lower
>after fastest hikes in history
HAHAHAHA

>>52847149
it really is easier being a bull fren... the line does always go up, eventually.. sorry for your loss

>cant even hold above 4100
KEK mumus

THEY RIGGRD THE NUMBER
THEY RIGGED THE NUMBERs

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FUCKING OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GONNA FUCK MY FIDELITY WAIFU BROKER(FEMALE) SO HARD
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Do I go all in now?

>>52847156
Oil and gas prices are lower in Dec so far

OUT MY WAY BOBO FUCKING SHITS

soxl at 15 holy shit

>>52847169
>>52847136
>>52846993
take your meds

>>52847165

Go long oil mid January. Thank me later

santa rally

MDB is at 214

>>52846118
>cpi down
>stocks down

lmao

bot spam gets filtered and reported
if you want to shitpost
>>>/b/iz

so means 25 basis points tomorrow?

mumubros, where are we wining and dining?
Are we gonna continue to pump post fomc?

so fucking rigged holy fuck

Holy molly that's a good CPI print. Never speculate based on Cleveland Fed forecasts.

>>52847174
They don't know whether to FOMO in or to get out before the next leg of the bear market.
I don't either.

SOXL +10% PREMARKET
LOOOOOOOOL
BOBOS ARE YOU OK?

>>52847215
i have never even seen a bot post ITT so far, what the fuck are you talking about lad

Now traders will be worried about deflation

>>52847216
Nah, 50 is too baked in: https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html

But considering the meeting after that is right at the beginning of February, tomorrow could be the last hike.

>>52847156
OILs going back up but housing will be plummeting. The metrics they use for housing don’t react quickly.

7.1%
7.1%
7.1%
7.1%
7.1%

BETTER FROM EXPECTION

WHY IS THE PUMP FADING

>>52846524
I hope nobody takes your advice usually

>>52847228
FUCK YOU

>>52847144
i sold with a 50% loss and went long at 4100 . lost 6k .

havent seen green like this since lst month. rip bobo

>>52847246
Time to sell the news, anon.

>>52847238
true but 25 hike tomorrow would be an insane surprise pump tho

>>52847246
probably cause inflation is still fucking high kek

WE BEAT INFLATION
ECONOMY SOLVED
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>52847134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S9fRYaF4wA

>>52847241
Yeah, by like fucking 0.1%, after fastest hikes in history.

>>52846974
I think too many boomer still do what he says

>>52847240

I agree, the housing calculations are total bullshit. OIL is going to bounce around in December but take off in January.

i told you not to overstay your welcome

>>52847230
bot post = shitpost
there is no way to say if they are bots or just shiposter, so trolling outside of /b/ works most of the time

I hope every single unironic bear kills themselves

retail puts getting heemed

joe biden is the best president of all time solved inflation without a hard landing and is destroying russia in ukraine

>>52846327
Iron ore is the smart man china opening bet

>>52847156
Oil doesn’t seem to care about inventory, inventory has proven to be a total meme

>>52847228
I-It's a chance for me to p-pick up more SOXS, right?

>>52847267
0.2% BETTER FROM EXPECTION
0.6% BETTER FROM PREVUOS MOTH

ITS TIME HIBERNATION IS OVER

Seems like it will take a while to get back down to 2%, higher for longer.

fuck it im no longer bull
OIL 100 EOY

>>52847287
>gambling against FOMC and santa rally
There is no longer any catalyst for the market to dump

>>52847247
>>52847128

It's going to be a good day :)

>>52847281

>bought puts instead of selling them

ISHYGDDT

max pain looks like it was true
all those puts yesterday getting absolutely HEEMED
holy shit this is fucking wild
i can't even right now, wtf

>>52847260
Remember Jackson Hole? The Fed wants to keep a lid on wealth effect rallies in order to minimize the inflation fighting it has to do through destroying the real economy. They won't hike 25 and, hell, would go 75 if we start tomorrow at SPY 420.

>>52847299
bear*

i went long on oil at least so i can cope kek . but yeah -6k , that hurts .

>wanted to load up on spy 415 12/13 calls for $6 each yesterday morning
>missed opportunity waited for it to go down
>ended up getting priced out at $31
>looks like we're heading to $415 today
I'm so mad

Reminder that I told you all the market would be LIMIT UP today. The bear market is OVER.

>>52847318
cucked by jpow

deflation bros...

so are we buying today?

>>52847271
The housing numbers are just heavily smoothed. The official statistic is still ticking up slowly while the market plummets.

>>52847287
yeah bro, cheapies
totally, just double down

Fed meeting tomorrow.
Risk off

>>52847331
4150? try 4300 today 4600 tomorrow.

>CPI COOLER than expected
>DYX dropped below 104
Holy shit
There is no recovery for bobos today

>>52847137
Housing is still fucking INCREASING?

>>52847330
Same bro, stay comfy and dont give up

>>52847340
No, sell this scam pump. We're dumping hard tomorrow.

>>52847360
Ah, I see you're not familiar with the gay, lying fuckery that is OER.

>>52847354
FOMC is risk on. Last hike of the cycle will be confirmed tomorrow, return to 2% rates from here, economy is still strong. UP ONLY.

>>52847340
no you were supposed to buy in october

So if one wants to take profits. Where to put that cash?

>>52847336
This is damned if you do damned if you don't
Pivot before the recession, you might actually cause overhiring and a bounce on inflation
Don't pivot, and you risk a dead decade
It's not looking good

>>52847348

Are we headed towards stagflation?

>>52847083
I'm happy that my shorts are a tiny fraction of my portfolio. I was already up on a lot of my longs.
Now I just have to decide what to sell.

>>52847340
you should've bought yesterday

>>52847353
Ok, got it

>>52847361
ngl he probably should give up. 40x leverage on a gamble over unpredictable complicated numbers is degenerate behavior

>>52847356
$410 now

Good bye my money, better get to work soon

>>52847336
They'll cut rates next year when we're in a recession and SPY is at 280

>>52847379
JEPI?

>>52847375
Look at history. The market tanks after pivot

>>52847390
JPOW is more likely to say nice things tomorrow, so now we pump through the rest of the year.

>>52847367
>We're dumping hard tomorrow.
How so?
50bps is already priced in and the market will pump off it
If it is 25bps we will have another limit up
Inflation is literally over, october was the bottom
China is opening up
War is over soon
Energy crisis is over
I don't see any catalyst left that will crash the market unless we get another black swan

>>52847330
oh shit didnt realise that was the same poster lol thought it was just a fellow oil bobo who fucked up

>>52847399
Market hasn't opened yet. Give it time. LIMIT UP.

>>52847367
>>52847380
thanks im buying

>>52847360
own nothing plan still in effect
sorry young millennials and zoom zooms
priced out

>>52847379
money market funds for absolute safety

NOOO STOP GOING UP
THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING
I'M IN CHARGE HERE

guess someone did get the leak early yesterday kek

>>52847416
Usually because those are cycles ending in the face of economic weakness. If this one ends with a strong economy but "defeated" inflation, then This Time Is Different.

if china is ending their zero covid policy and participating more in the global economy again then wont this increase inflation?

>>52847416
It won't be a pivot but a return to normalcy (2% rates). Inflation is over. The economy is strong. UP ONLY. SOFT LANDING.

>>52847431
Can you shill me one?

>>52847419
>Inflation is literally over, october was the bottom
and now you have a collapsing housing market whose data is lagging 6 months coming at you at 100mph, while inflation is dropping *without that*

>>52847360
>>52847371
>>52847424
TRUST
THE
PLAN

So if the put/call ratio was so high, it should pump even more at open due short covering right?

>>52847442
Yes

>>52847408
I have my whole account in JEPI right now. Feels fantastic, as long as it keeps working.

why are we pumping? Im so tired of this shit

Real estate numbers looking sus fr fr no cap

We will close at 34372

>bought a 4.8% CD
>they now have 4.95% CDs

>>52847444
i like using BIL or ICSH etfs

>>52847451
>That mega deflation that'll finally be reported in OER mid 2024
wew lad

NEXT
>>52847469
>>52847469
>>52847469
>>52847469

>>52847397
i gave up and sold at the mini dip and went long .

>>52847467
that's impossible to know

>>52847467
You cannot be serious
CPI came in lower; it was obvious, though

>>52847444
i mean it's literally just the rate of interest for money lad, go put it into interactive brokers and they do it just when you hold cash.

>>52847450
What are you implying? Housing doesn't cause a recession, the market just got overvalued and was successfully brought under control by the Fed.

>>52847467
Bobo found dead of a dildo overdose
line only go up now

>>52847475
>>52847496
Thanks. Can you explain it to me though? Is it buying the "dip" in yields so to speak?

>>52847501
I'm implying that housing is in a recession as we speak and it's getting worse by the day

SOXL is going to 20.
Nothing can stop it now.
JPOW is going to say nice things tomorrow and Bobo will hang himself.
Cancel your shorts.

>>52847419
Years more of elevated interest rates + all that stuff you said = 2003 crab party

>>52847524
if you dont even know what moneymarkets are dont try and time the market. just keep your money in the s&p 500 dude. you will make more holding trust me

moneymarkets use short term treasury notes and other safe near-zero risk. It's not timing anything, it's just giving you a near risk free rate of return. It usually barely beats inflation, and right now is not.

>SOXL +14% premarket
jesus fucking christ