/biz/ - Business & Finance

the hour was power after all

>>52836962
santa crab edition

why is stockmarket.com computer pumping my basterds?

Great
3 active /smg/s

whats up with the vix? Are we dumping tomorrow?

whats being priced in? looks like a scam pump to shake out puts leading in to a horrible CPI miss if you ask me

Who else here loves Dividend stocks? My ultimate goal is to have so many dividend stock investments that I can just live off of the dividends themselves.

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

KUSO GEIMU

>>52836994
if 2y goes over 5, no reason to keep anything in equities

>>52836962
SEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXX

>>52836962
Goddamb niggers I hate this market

>he bought puts
oh nonononoono BAHAHAHAHHA

>>52836962
Is /smg/ an Idolmaster general?

>>52836962
Here comes the melt up!

You retards thought we were going down but I tried to tell you.

It’s higher, way higher, into year end.

I really hate all of you. It's because of you fags that I'm still not a millionaire yet.

WHOA BLACK BETTY

How do I invest in AI art?

is it unironically going into power hour after one massive crab day?

>>52836996
Case in point, the Chad NOBL ticker

>>52836996
I do. I make over $1 every day of the year by doing nothing.

>>52837016
SEXSEXSEXSEX

>>52837015
i always wait until the very last minute going into CPI
thinking a 60-40 put/call spy straddle with NO STOP LOSSES

>>52837024
>>52837030
heed the warnings next time doofus
>>52835029

Golden Bullrun Locked!

>>52837016
pretty much

>>52837030
How is ramping higher literally all night and day a crab day?

>>52837027
NVDA/AMD since the end viewers are usually gamers

>>52837036
Based. With more investment, it becomes even more, then just live off of dividends.

Equities are pumping, yet Mumu is hedging. Are equities pumping because shorts are covering to avoid gettin rugged tomorrow?

>>52837054
so , sicne you "knew" the market was going to pump you must've went all in and made a killing
right?

why would it pump before CPI? hmmmmmmmm

>>52837073
that is what it looks like

DO YOU GOYS THINK THIS MARKET IS YOUR PERSONAL PLAYGROUND?
well you have another thing coming:
https://voca.ro/1ddYmSRz5yJl

>>52837082
Energy prices have been plunging?

I shouild've sold my puts, i lost everything including rent money

OMG THE NEW MATT LEVINE NEWSLETTER JUST ARRIVED IN MY INBOX I MUST READ IT RIGHT NOW

>>52837063
Bulltrap

>>52837082
CPI is an ultra bullish event. Inflation is over while the economy is still strong. The soft landing has unironically been achieved and you'd better not get caught short. ATH Q1 '23.

Come here mumu you still down from ATH? Need some love? Boba honey will cheer you up.

excuse me sers where is my pajeet financial advisor i must know how to feed the village from the VIX

>>52837097
Bruh, never put into the market what you can't afford to lose.

>>52837107
meanwhile ppi was hot and so was employment
and we're pumping going into it

i...sold my soxl for 1k...not gonna gamble on cpi again.

>assume crab day before cpi
>plan to buy spy calls at close
>market is on a fucking rocketship
my plans are fucked I don't even know what to do now

BULLBROS ARE WE BACK??????

>>52836996
I do. My 'make it' number is based on a very achievable divvy rate to supplement and ultimately replace my yearly salary.

>>52837112
I don't feel bad for him as he's a goblina poster

>>52837109
would

>Thanksgiving tier volume

lol

>>52837123
if you expect violent movement in either direction but dont want to gamble one way do a straddle
then it will crab and you lose both ways at once

>>52837107
fueled by unironically this time retail shorts getting squeezed. gme tards get what they want, while they hold puts

>>52837123
Buy higher sell higher

>>52837118
PPI is irrelevant. Employment being hot is good, that's what a soft landing looks like - inflation back towards 2% with a red-hot labor market.

can some enlightened financial advisor philosopher explain this pump without resort to conspiracy theories

>>52837127
Nice, what stocks do you like? I really like REATs like O, STAG and AGNC since they pay monthly but I'm looking into some high dividend ETFs lately.

>>52837118
Let him make his bullish bets. Who the fuck knows what’s going to happen at this point? This market is absolutely, irrevocably divorced from reality. No amount of analysis will tell us what will happen. I’m guessing we just continue to crab until we head down a bit more.

>>52836996
>just live off of the dividends themselves
The goal is this, plus having money left over to reinvest. You always want to be adding more. This is in case of a dividend cut. Another cheat code is to move to a country with a lower standard of living.

>>52837065
I get the idea, but I'm not entirely convinced that computation load is the limiting factor with these things. It tends to be a few key individuals training models which they then share publicly.
Regardless, chip makers just seem too obvious. I wonder if there's some niche that hasn't been uncovered yet? For example, art is a major cost in video game production. If sprite generation was largely automated perhaps some existing IPs can be infinitely monetized at low cost by churning out low-effort expansions. AI text generation has also seen great strides recently, and could be tied in.
This is the line of thinking I'd like to contemplate, at least - these sorts of potential 2nd order winners that'll profit off the cost savings.

>>52837162
cooler C Pee I data leaked out of yellens granny asshole

dammit, soxl kept pumping. sold at 12.73.

>>52837162
Bull market has resumed. There's no conspiracy needed, the economy is great and inflation is rapidly rolling over. Soft landing.

>>52836996
O is my favorite divi stock

>>52837154
If employment is good then the Fed will feel emboldened to raise interest rates. They’ll push interest rates as hard as possible until it starts to break something.

My TQQQ Dec 16 $50 calls might actually pay off

>>52837080
That's tomorrow.

>didn't break 390
>retesting 400
>gigagreen day
>possible xmas rally
i wish i could predict the future

>>52837164
The market isn't divorced from reality, it's reacting to fundamentals which I've outlined numerous times already ITT.

Today I talked at length with my extended family what I do as an investors. After two hours they barely grasped what shares are.

Is there money to be made teaching to normies? I love talking about investing.

>>52837184
Nothing will break and the 10y will be 8%+ by the end of the decade.

This power hour is definitely organic and in no way an obvious set up for short covering going into tomorrows CPI news.

Really, though, what the fuck?

so if i buy calls expiring tomorrow this flips back around today right?

>>52837184
The Fed doesn't WANT to raise rates, they have to because of inflation. But inflation is over. This means it'll be safe to cut to 2% in short order with a great labor market and strong economy. Sounds like a soft landing to me. Don't get caught short.

>>52837204
let 2y reach 5, then we see

>>52837184
>until it starts to break something.
Anon have you been outside lately?

god i fkn hate days like today

>>52837207

>>52837212
nobody knows, but I was going to buy a 50/50 put/call straddle at close and now im doing a 70/30 based off this scam pump

>>52837167
>This is in case of a dividend cut.
I mean, Ideally you'd diversify to a wide range of Dividend stocks so that if one cuts its payout, you won't be significantly affected.

>>52837216
>let 2y reach 5, then we see
We'd see nothing breaking then either.

>>52837221
Nothing is broken. The US economy is great and can handle 5+% just fine. The "indicators" people are using to call a recession are basically just voodoo (muh yield curve) or garbage data (muh consumer sentiment, PMIs etc.)

>imagine thinking this massively oversold market was gonna dump going into a bullish news week during the most seasonally bullish time with a historically high put call ration


Most predictable rally ever.

If you didnt make loads of money coming into this week being leveraged long this you are literally never gonna make it.

>>52836996
I prefer buyback stocks. For example, AZO.
Dividends kinda suck because you're forced to pay taxes every single year. I'd rather only pay taxes on precisely the amount of money I require for my annual living expenses.
That said, dividend stocks can make for nice trades since you get the lower-tax qualified div after a mere 60 day hold.

>>52837163
I'll have to change the strategy as my account grows but right now really liking MVO & OKE. I have ~12k of JEPI but still weary that the divvy will change.

MELT UP

Jerome is going to slowly inch the interest rate cock into place. First he will prep the market by talking about it or having the other Fed heads mention it in interviews. His growing erection straining to be released from his pleated pants. The market will whimper a little and start to produce lubrication, maybe say to stop and try to push him away. At that point it's too late to resist, there's no running away from Jerome's bedroom. With lust in his eyes, nothing will deter Jerome from his task. He has come to put our financial woes to rest. To do that he'll have to take the market to a place it's never been before, a place of pain but also pleasure. He will open the market up with a small interest rate hike, just a teaser to the full event. Rub it around the outside and push gently at the entrance. There will be a yelp of pain and maybe a moan or kick. Soon the whole tip, a 0.5% hike thrust into the market prodding and stretching the first few inches. Probing deeper until there's a slight resistance of the market's hymen giving way. This is where the majority of the pain occurs, a little blood but Jerome can't stop now, he must finish this task. Pushing farther in each time, he finally feels himself bottom out the market with an eye rolling groan. Quickly, thrust after thrust will go fully in and out with load smacks as pelvis collides with pelvis, no whimpers or pleading will stop him. It will seem to the market like this period lasts forever, both parties will start to perspire and become desperate, panting and gasping for breath. Relief can only happen if the act is fully completed. Finally Jerome will explode deep into those depths with a loud final bestial grunt. The market will scream as stars dance across it's vision in simultaneous agony and ecstasy then promptly pass out, drooling and still twitching from aftershocks. Jerome will delve the market's nethers so thoroughly that it will feel empty after the final interest rate hike.

>>52837240
lets see your positions, you read like so many trolls on here trying to lose anons money as a hobby

>>52837198
Yeah man. If you can carve our a niche, try a youtube channel.

Yo did someone say something? I just checked my portfolio for the day

>>52837198
You either have morons for extended family or you’re not very good at explaining this stuff.

now we dump

>>52837240
And I'm saying those numbers are fugazi, too, but goddamn I've never seen so many homeless and the cost of food, not even Whole Foods organic horse shit, is outrageous. People just look beat down and tattered, too.

>>52837214
>inflation is over
yep those .6% wage gains monthly just going to deflate things

>>52837239
Nothing ever happens, that is implied
but 2y at 5% that is where the flow from equity to bond can become really interesting

>>52837243
>-0.3% MoM

my mcdonalds portfolio is doing better than my real one

Trying to check if Joe Biden is giving remarks tomorrow about CPI but can't find anything. Remember this?

>>52837268
You DO NOT want deflation, faggotretard; you want DIS-INFLATION.
UHH DUUHHHH DUHH DUHHH *drools*

>>52837243
imagine not going long VIX at 19 last week which predictably pumped during this "rally"

>big pump before fomc/cpi
its joever lmao

BUY BUY BUY

>>52837281
What can you get with that many points?

>>52837266
Homeless don't matter to the market. Most consumption is done by the top 20% of Americans and we have tons of money from the stock market pump last year, tech jobs, etc. As long as the rich are fine the economy will be strong and the market will move up (which will keep the economy strong via the wealth effect).

>>52837240
Basically sort of this.
Employment is strong and there is no indication of it not remaining strong.
Tech layoffs will be absorbed partly by record job openings and partly by foreigners losing there jobs and having to move back to their countries of origin.
Unemoyment numbers will remain stable und unaffected by tech layoffs.
Inflation has been resoundingly accepted by business and consumers. The 8% y/y gains we've seen over the past year have literally been priced in.
The consumer will remain strong as it's a Burgerland tradition to simply gorge on more debt when money should get tight.
And finance will be more than happy to lend.

>>52837311
You're missing the point: the Fed DID break something.

>>52837182
O and NNN are hands down the best commercial reits. Insanely consistent at beating the S&P 500

>>52837325
What broke? Europe?

>>52837198
"Shares are basically pieces of a company. In other words, if a company has 100 shares, and you own one share, you own 1%, or one one-hundredth of the company. Owning shares means you are entitled to some of the profits the company makes, either by making your piece more valuable, or by giving you a small portion of the profit (called a dividend)."

That is a pretty simple explanation I can imagine most humans understanding, and it they don't, draw a pie chart on some paper, point to a slice and say "that's a share,"

Answer deeper questions from there.

How did you explain it?

>>52837325
>on purpose, like they said they were going to do

>>52837325
what did it break? Your hymen when it fucked you?

>>52837238
Definitely diversify but always be adding shares. Even if it’s just a few. Also sell covered calls on what you own to buy more as well. (And don’t DRIP)

>>52837310

>>52837347
>covered calls in a 12 year bull market

>>52837347
why not DRIP?

GIMME AN OOO
> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>52837328
I have O in my portfolio but not NNN, what makes them special?

>>52837325
Nothing was broken.

>this random pump

data leaked?

>Dumped into last CPI
>Gapped up the next day
>Mooning into this one
Oh no

>>52837370
GIMME AN AAA
> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>52837385
Short covering for the dump tomorrow.

>>52837386
DON'T TELL THEM

If you people think this is "mooning" just wait until the actual CPI gets released. LIMIT UP CPI day into LIMIT UP FOMC.

>>52837386
>Oh no
you're not supposed to notice

What's the bear case for higher than expected inflation? Wages?
Whats the case for lower? oil and energy coming down

>>52837387
WHAT'S THAT SPELL?
https://youtu.be/dsK3oaJ4-ks?t=30

>>52837366
You're asking your broker to provide a service when you sign up for DRIP.
You should expect them to charge you a premium. :^)

>>52837243
>oversold
All market indicators say we’re overbought right now.

>>52837400
pretty evil to feed wrong advice to autists bro
karma gonna get you eventually

Shit. I was levered long to the tits this morning but now I'm wondering if I should just TP and sit the cpi out. wasn't expecting a power hour on this of all days

>>52837410
huh?

>>52837415
Did you SEE what happened last CPI day?

>>52837377
Well, continue to believe your hypothetics about the rich portion of the country carrying everything. I'll believe what I see around me.

>>52837244
If you compare what is taken out of your paycheck in taxes and other involuntary deductions compared to what your dividends are taxed at, you will see that you keep more of you dividend income then your earned income. Also your dividends are taxed at the tax bracket you are in. Kind of a good incentive to get as much dividend income as possible while keeping your earned income low.

>>52836425
I'll say it again

THE MELTUP IS REAL

> +1.22%

>>52837432
The rich carried everything from 2008 onward via the wealth effect.

>>52837256
Even if I were, which I am not, I still kept them engaged for two hours.
>>52837334
I explained it like that, but the follow up questions showed they still didn't understand. It was baffling.

>Yeah, but it's not real.
>But who is the loser?
>So the company took your money?

>>52837424
Have you thought about that you ask them to provide you with shares at literally any price?
Literally any price. ;^)

>>52837436

this is getting scary - sensing a fkn rugpull - is this when it's good to hedge?

>>52837405
It won't show up this month, but wage growth is too fast for these low CPI prints to be sustainable in the next 3 months. PPI and nonfarms already showed this.
However its the oil market that should be concerning you. Future supplies are constrained, yet prices are still going down? Chinese PPI is also showing slowdowns.
Oil inflation could be falling because of a recession.

and that's the real risk mumu is oblivious of. if the fed pivots its already too late, unless they start buying up bonds & mbs again.

LET'S FUCKING GOOOO

>>52837443
no. that were 0% public guaranteed loans, that were supposed to spark a capex boom but did spark an equity and real estate bubble

>>52837449
DRIP allows for fractional shares tho which you can't buy normally

>>52837436
Austin Theory is more Lex Luger than John Cena.

>>52837433
I no longer have a paycheck. I trade full time.
Dividends are low tax, but that's still more tax than no tax.

>>52837463
>unless they start buying up bonds & mbs
and/or ZIRP which is the only way out this but something "theyve" said isnt coming in 2023

>>52837468
The equity and real estate bubble caused the wealth effect. I am literally a beneficiary of the Fed blowing a massive equity bubble and misallocating my capital (by any rational, pre-2008 standard) accordingly.

>>52837463
Hahahahahaha oh shit this is great. The bear narrative is starting to shift from "the fed will NEVER pivot bulltards!" to "when the fed pivots they'll already be too late!"

Lmao

>>52837471
>fractional shares
Another service you expect to receive free of charge? :^)

RIP that anon who needed 395 to exit his puts

>>52837486
you and everybody itt most likely. Doesnt mean that there was no wealth effect, just complete misalocation of capital that has yet failed to produce anything that can generate real growth - on the opposite, gen alpha are even less than zoomers

>>52837494
alright milkbreath go shoot up a school with your misplaced impotent rage lol
>Verification not required.

>>52837494

Only need to make 46k more to break even

>>52837475
He definitely has that anger that lex had back in the late 80s. Kind of hope he gets a good heel run

>>52837457
No. Read my lips

WE. RAMP. TILL. THE. END. OF. THE. YEAR.

We are breaking out of the downtrend this month, going for new highs in Jan/feb 23 then the bottom falls out and we go to new lows. This will fuck the maximum amount of people and so it’s exactly what will happen. There is. HUGE opex coming up and it’s mostly puts. Obviously we are ramping significantly higher

>>52837445
>Yeah, but it's not real
What do they mean by this? It's just as real as money in your bank account, or the deed to your car or paperwork saying you own your home.

>But who is the loser?
I don't actually know what that means

>So the company took your money?
Yes, and in return they owe me, the investor, a return on my investment, usually in the form of increasing value or dividends, a portion of their profits.

>>52837486
I was, too, and I'm by no means rich.

>>52837471
I don't know about you but I can buy Fractional shares on Webull, and I can buy Fractional shares for my buddy on RobinHood too.

>>52837373
NNN is just as good as O just smaller. (11700 vs 3350 properties)
Just an example of diversifying

>>52837538
gone be good

>>52837488
>Bears said fed would never pivot
In your fucking dreams mum lmao we told you it wasn't happening this year

>>52837328
>>52837373
>>52837558
NNN was only posted here as a joke, but maybe it's actually good?
I'm NNN+11 fyi

>>52837477
>I trade full time

Legitimate question: How is that profitable? Like, what do you do to turn out an equivalent day's wage profit?

>>52837488
Raising 50 is not a pivot. and the worst crashes happen after the fed starts cutting because they realize they overdid it. look at july 2007. they started cutting a few months before the collapse.

SOXX is so fucking close to the 200 dma

>>52837557
oh sorry, I meant on a real broker

>>52837538

>dude we're just gonna keep going up even though liquidity via TGA/RRP is going to dry up into Q1 next year and there's a 93% correlation between asset prices and liquidity

>they don't believe in santa

>>52837506
>>52837510
Alright you fucking dimwits.
I'll funking ram that heap of knowledge down your throats and spoon-feed you.
Your brokers will indirectly charge you for their "DRIP services" by selling you shares (or fractions thereof) for a higher price than what they have bought themselves.
Do you really expect them to do this shit for you free of charge?
You literally will get the shares (or fractions thereof) above market price.
This is how they charge you.

Fucking imbeciles the lot of you.

>>52837558
Nice! I may check it out!

how much u fuckers risking tmw? i barely have any in, so tempted to go more

>>52837366
With DRIP you wind up with a fractional share that will only pay a fraction of a dividend. Best to just purchase as many whole shares as you can and keep the extra cash on hand for the next investment. When we were paying commissions for buying shares DRIP made some sense but now with no commissions it really is unnecessary. If you are going to DRIP, make sure you get at least one whole share of stock along with the fractional share.

>>52837581
Ah, I see.
What is the benefit of a real broker though over a service like Webull or Robinhood where you can do it yourself though? Is it really worth it just for their financial advice?

>>52837596
>>52837603
I get that I just would be surprised if the pennies they're jewing you out of on the marketprice is a loss compared the increased dividend you'd accrue from just rolling with the fractional shares
JEPI chad BTW

>imagine not taking this exit liquidity pump
>There’s anon’s ITT who won’t be selling by the close today

>>52837601
makes more sense for me personally to have nothing on the line, and then wait to see the outcome after the dust settles, and then go very heavy all in long, or very heavy all in short
would rather have the certainty of the outcome and miss out on some profit than bet a little and lose a little

>>52837601
Only like 2% (or 1k), Im skittish

>>52837578
we going all in soxl leaps or sticking to shares when it hits the magic line?

>exit liquidity pump

Apple is valued at a 2.5 trillion dollar company. Two point five trillion. The bottom hasn't even come close to being in.

>>52837596
You really care about that? Shit, I guess there's a reason Indians like you get called the Jews of the east.

>Oh no, my fractional share cost $0.02 more than if I had logged in and bought the share with cash manually!
Fucking lol

Nothing is worth buying besides energy stocks

>>52837632
We could still rally here on good inflation data though, it would just make 2023 all the more nasty however

>>52837622
SPY's, what, 10 points away from the Jackson Hole smackdown zone?

>Going green into CPI day

This doesn't feel right.

t. permabull

>>52837603
Yes. DRIP is so Boomer.

thanks for giving me a good entry bobo

>>52837601
>tmw
is this zoomer for "tomorrow"?
im probably going 700 in puts and 300 in calls, depending on if they dump into close or not
only gamble what you're comfortable losing is my motto

market pump extremely fake and gay we dump the last 10 minutes to flat close

>>52837634
They're going to keep hammering down energy because it and boomer home prices are the only ways they can feasibly lower inflation. And OIL barons don't have nearly as many votes as boomers.

>>52837365
I sell way out of the money and set a strike price that would give me at least a 50% profit for my shares. Yes a lot of times the payout may not be worth it but sometimes it is.

>>52837672
i'm always and never comfortable at the same time

>>52837672
>im probably going 700 in puts and 300 in calls, depending on if they dump into close or not
HOLY FUCK THOSE PREMIUMS WHAT THE FUCK BROS THIS IS STRAIGHT UP GARBAGE

>>52837601
0 because this is what happens on CPI/FOMC days
pump into dump into gigapump into gigadump into giganiggapump into next week being trippleniggagiggadump

OH FUCK

>>52837633
You'll greatly miss that two cents when you might have to sell at a loss(+2 cents).

>>52837573
>Legitimate question: How is that profitable?
Mostly I just do nothing. Then something like TWTR buyout comes along and I collect a bunch of money.
I'm not relying on a daily wage. If I didn't have a decent stack and a paid off house then it'd be too stressful. I do make some profit off daytrades and random swings, but it's not like I'm looking to find a solid entry I can scalp every single day.

Really though, the hardest part is doing nothing. By doing nothing, I avoid avoiding doing something stupid.

>>52837632
My zoomer employee is over $5000 In debt because he spent it all on apple products. Buying an iphone isn't a choice to the mindless consoomer, it's a necessity. Every 6 months they need the new one.

So I fucked up last year by not placing limit orders. What stocks do I sell, what ones do i DCA?

>>52837678
>Sour quarter hour confirmed

>>52837704
>HOLY FUCK THOSE PREMIUMS WHAT THE FUCK BROS THIS IS STRAIGHT UP GARBAGE
Its literally over isnt it, premiums so fucking high on 1de SPY options I can't see any profitability anymore
make a strategy and its already ruined in the course of a couple months?

they are playing 4d chess with us. they know that we think its too good to be true that cpi will be low and FOMC will be dovish AND it pumps right before, so they are going to do all that.

>>52837708
Oh fair. So your strategy is just, cast a wide net, check to see if anything explodes, and then cash in?

>>52837601
Got about $6,000 in puts for 380 expiring in the middle of February. Will probably sell well before then but better safe than sorry.

>this pump is fake and gay

>>52837724
dance with me bruh

>>52837729
but they also know that we know that they know

im going to start trading natural gas

oil should be having now temp recovery as predicted and traded.

rates are still going lower as predicted, they are having recovery

eur/usd may still push little higher before new slope for euro. HOWEVER japanese yen is looking to have good time with dollar so dxy will not get that much stronger anymore

NASDAQ is looking to starting to wake up. many tech stock like tesla and faang are now approaching bottom levels

>>52837729
JPM just put out analysis showing SPY is likely to pump another 10% into the end of DEC after CPI and FOMC almost no matter what comes out.

>>52836962
What are everyone's thoughts on PBR? The dividends seem very lucrative

A soft CPI tomrrow and miner stocks could get a bit squeezy. Anyone else been watching these?

>>52837740
how deep does it goooooooooooooo

bulls, we leakin

>>52837724
perhaps there is an event occurring tomorrow that is jacking up the IV

>>52837754
why would they tell this to retail?

>>52837749
proof?

>>52837758
I am the 'Good morning I hate bitfarms (BITF)' anon so yes I've been watching this absolute dogshit do nothing

>>52837758
fuck forgot pic rel

>>52837744
be prepared for a steep learning curve
the toughest thing with learning to trade natural gas is dealing with your emotions with the big swings
do not buy too early, do not fade too early
use this website and read every single article, to stay on top of the news:
https://www.naturalgasintel.com/
use this to circumvent the paywall
https://archive.. ph/ (remove the space)
expect to have some huge 10%+ losses - it's inevitable
there's a reason why it's called the widowmaker
with that said, I have made around $5 grand in the last month swinging it long and short
but it took a long time, maybe 12 months, before I started to feel confident trading it

>>52837744
It's not a coincidence: Eagles blow out the Giants and the markets start pumping the next day
Cramer is an Eagles fan too... but I don't know how to factor that in

>>52837776
how are you positioned right now

>>52837767
Yeah it's been crazy watching these stocks get so low. I just know that when the bounce happens it's going to be quick. Hopefully this week.

CPI leaked (again)

>>52837766
no proof. just 15 years of trading experience and algorithms say. i dont draw lines or
anything i just do what algorithms say very objectively

>>52837789
I shorted this morning, made $940 on the trade - 2,000 shares of KOLD
now I'm flat - I am now waiting until after the Fed to position anything long / short
it doesn't make sense to me risk:reward to position beforehand, when I can just wait til there is more clarity and not be wrong
I may even wait until Thursday natural gas report before I trade natural gas again
although I may make some scalping trades over the next several days in tech long/short

>>52837798
is that why vix is still going up no matter what spy does

>>52837798
>(again)
Didn't last time, buddy.

>>52837784
My lions are going to win out the season, and kick all of you teams asses in the playoffs.

>BTC BUY on Dec 07, 2022
>Available to send in 1 day
>It's just 20 dollars for my pass.
I don't think I'll ever get back into Crypto.

>inb4 CPI prints negative, market fucking roars untl J-Pow speech where he goes ultra-bearish by dooming the entire economy and we end limit low on the day

Screencap this.

>>52837766
Cause they already bought the dip and sold retail an assload of puts that are going to zero?

>>52836962
did she have a side effect from the pfizer and/or moderna shot(s)? Worried here.

>VIX 25
>there are people itt who think that's bullish

Looks like Market's gonna close higher than where we opened boys.

>>52837837
This seems like the kind of gay bullshit that would happen.

>>52837825
I put 25$ on the lions winning the super bowl kek. Pays out $3500. They're playing really fucking well right now.

>>52837842
The reason it's going up is because big boys with puts are hedging.

>leak
>shorts covering

>futures are ending

fuck this shit

Are we santa rallying?

>>52837897
maybe

SOXL 13 short squeeze tommorow

*pssst anon, there's still time to make up the devastating losses what you had this year, you surely don't wanna end this year at a loss, don't you?

>>52837897
Wednesday is the big day.

>>52837005
can you explain this please. im trying to learn how bond markets correlate with equity markets.

>soxl closed 2 cents below 13
market manipulation, hedgecucks fear SOXL

Ding ding ding! How did it go today anon?

Also, most 2s we'll ever have in a date until 12/22/2222! make it special!

i saw mommy kissing santa claus

>>52837928
+$1800 yay

>>52837909
for me its "there's still time to lose your gains bro, just gamble this last CPI/FOMC cmon do it"
welp im in 70/30 puts to calls lets do this

>>52837928
Down another 2200 thanks to my broker's bug

>>52837928
nice

>>52837928
Line went up.

>>52837754
This is the best article ever, it lists the chance of the headline happening at less than 5%. Meanwhile, they're talking quite a bit about the -10% drop expected if inflation comes in even a little bit hot.

Pay attention kids, this is what insider sell flagging looks like:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jpmorgan-trading-desk-sees-p-201500788.html

>SOX close to testing the 200 SMA again
>SPY close to testing the 200 SMA again

>>52837951
>>52837952
you "people" need to post positions so other "people" here can get useful information

>>52837928
>How did it go today anon?

Snagged some COST, SPFF and NOBL since my paycheck was cashed Saturday and I had some cash to throw into the market.

>>52837966
I was/am short rivian and hedged my long bear positions with TQQQ expecting some kind of retarded niggerpump this week

>Verification not required.

LMAO that was such a stupid FOMO rally into close. Perfect setup for bulls to get slaughtered tomorrow. you see the same thing again and again and they still fall for it.

>>52837961
Wtf is this? Did they remake that shitty anime? Fuck lum

>>52837959
>Pay attention kids, this is what insider sell flagging looks like:
yeah the fake and gay pump starting exactly 1 hour before close today instructed my overnight holds to be counter-intuition
anyone else just see a 5 point red candle on spy that insta-reversed?

>>52837928
>0% after daily inflation

>>52837621
It’s not necessary a loss. For value investing DRIP is fine. But dividend investing is a different approach. You’re always chasing a high yield. I would rather have the cash dividend ready to purchase whole shares when the yield is high rather then have it automatically invested at a time when the yield is low.

>>52837984
Ultra high IV day on flat open, spiky erratic tard pump, classic pump and dump pattern. Beautiful, mumu trapped again.

>>52837961
This breakout and year end rally will be historic.

SPY 450 calls gonna print EOY

>>52837984
>LMAO that was such a stupid FOMO rally into close. Perfect setup for bulls to get slaughtered tomorrow. you see the same thing again and again and they still fall for it.

>>52837928
+1%

>>52837914
average return on shit and piss 500 over the last 50 years, about 10%. If the US money printer gives me save 5% while the shit and piss is doing a -10% return this year and maybe doing his 10% next year or not, its better risk wise to go with the US money printer than the pee pee poo poo 500

>>52837928

>12/22/2022

dope

>>52837966
I shall gloat about my wins and hide my losses like a true /smg/ger.

>>52837993
post something like that about my wife again and i will rape you (in real life)
>>52838012
>SPY 450 calls
if you actually own these i salute your appetite for risk

>>52837529

>bulls euphoric

I made back 1.5k of the 3k i lost. I have 2 calls for 398 for tomorrow though (worth 600). Hopefully it prints.

>>52837828
The worst part is, I just checked, and I can sell this 20 bucks, but I can't pay for shit with it. Why does Bitcoin even fucking exist if it can't be used for the one thing it was advertised for. THIS IS SO SHIT.

>>52838024
Makes a lot of sense, thanks.

>>52837894
Where did his father fail?

>>52838073
you're mistaken anon
they aren't waiting for the bitcoin to arrive, they're holding it for a day and making money off your purchase.

How come that retarded image of green day plus red futures = crab day and shit like that never ever gets posted anymore?

>>52837426
You're a fucking retard hahahaha.

tomorrows price action leaked

ok why is it crashing after hours? did i just throw away $300 that i desperately need?

>>52838121
Anon, if you desperately need it you REALLY shouldn't put it in the market.

>>52838104
Tomorrow needs to pump so that we can do the powell dump wednesday.

What caused VIX to plummet and then do a double top? I'm still pretty new to stocks and VIX action is something I'm still learning about

>>52838131
this anon is right

>>52837710
Apple has reached cult status without needing to be a MLM. Good for investors. Bad for zoomers but who really cares? I will enslave their wimens and they will thank me for it.

>>52838121
enjoy your ramen and water, maybe your roommate will let you hit their delta vape.

>>52838009
it's a gorgeous set up. mumus (and bobos) are always rugged when you see these kinds of FOMO pumps (or FOMO dumps) into close before a big event day.

>>52838142
Buying lots of puts on open and then buying more puts into retail paychecks

>>52838175
if it pumps or dumps tomorrow im good, if it crabs ill lose both legs of my straddle
so itll probably crab

Haven't traded In months but bought SPXS at 20 in anticipation of tomorrow and Wednesday let's get it boys

>>52838153

>apparent winner

>>52838131
how else can i make any substantial gain?

>>52838200

>VIX

>>52838065
>le has to stay in this pattern forever

>>52838205
getting a raise? minimizing debt? minimizing cost of living?

Found a big pile of Lego by some abandoned RR tracks over the weekend. I guess I does pay to get outside every now and then. WAGMI frens.

>>52838065
the market is going to break out of this line just to make you stop posting this all the time

>>52838223
not an option, i must stay indoors and only eat twice a day as is

>>52838205
Avoid poor people. They offer nothing of value.

>>52838205
produce something for cheap and sell it for more.

>>52838259
then only put in what you can afford to lose bud, not 300 when you're broke as shit. I hate to say it and you'll probably deny it anyway but the fact that you did something so foolish speaks a lot about how you may be in the position you are in to begin with, if you ever want to break out of that you should start doing a lot of self reflection on your decisions and your ability to judge risk/reward.

>>52838315
Holy shit based fatherly anon.

>>52838237
make a dildo

SQQQ BROS

>>52838315
opposite really - played things too safe through life and got me nowhere, now i'm trying the opposite with a lot of weight to carry

>>52838351
>he didn't buy SOXL for the CPI rally
oh no

>>52837756
Pretty risky, cause of that commie retard

Post your CPI predictions:

I'm looking at 0.4% MoM

>>52837310
diabetes

>oil down
>used car prices which for some reason make a large part of the cpi down
>rent stalling

>>52838408
5.8 yoy. mom who cares

>>52838298
agreed.
>>52838313
buy low sell high

i need lots of gold, that's the only way i'll feel accomplished.. everything else is over.

>>52838423
>almost 2 full percent below consensus
lol
lmao

>>52838205
Gradual long term investment with minimal risk. Seriously, rushing things for the sake of short term "substantial gain" will lead to serious issues if you need the money you just spent in the short term. When it comes to the stock market, the rule is "Never invest money you'll need within 5-6 years."

well i had a vocaroo but baker is taking too long so fuck yas

>bullish

>>52838439

>>52838362
Well taking massive financial risks you can't afford isn't going to get you out of it. If you're a wagie who makes, say, 2,000 a month, then I recommend investing around 200-400 per month, MAX, unless you are financially stable. Put these investments in companies/ETFs with proven histories and regular growth, and if you want your gains to be a little more tangible, invest in stocks and ETFs that pay regular dividends to make real passive income.

>>52838408
CPI hot. Cost of services rising, goods lowering. Wage price spiral starting. Higher for longer.

>>52838408
under 6.9 YoY for a funny nice meme pump

>>52838423
>he doesn't know about the Second Wave™ of inflation

>>52838328
Lego Group frowns on that sort of thing.

>>52838409
Buying NVO.

>>52838473
So just DCA every month instead of trying to bust my ass every day?

>>52838531

>>52838531

>>52838531
New bread.

>>52838382
HHHHNNNNGGGHHHH

>>52838507
I'm not sure what you mean by "Bust your ass every day," but if that means trying to get rich fast through day trading, with funds you can't afford to lose, it's a bad idea. Invest small, but invest FREQUENTLY. A consistant investor beats an investor who only invests at the bottom of the market regularly, and even an investor who buys at the absolute top every year, but lets his money ride, still makes a profit.

Invest with what you can afford to lose, do it regularly, make it a habit, and don't touch the money. Let it grow, let it make money for you. Otherwise it's like planting a seed and then immediately digging it up.

Good luck anon.

I got rejected from my internship at RBC and lost 1.5k today. What an amazing day

>>52836962
What caused the huge pump today?

Tesla got fucked up lmao

>>52838554
>"Bust your ass every day," but if that means trying to get rich fast through day trading, with funds you can't afford to lose
yeah, day trading options... it's an awful job in this insane market.. ok thanks, not sure if i learned anything but it feels like i did

>>52838652
I'm rooting for you Anon. Trust me, none of what I said was meant to put you down, just offer solid advice I wish I had sooner.

>>52838733
ty

>>52837197
Faggot