/biz/ - Business & Finance

I boughted my first golb.

First for old German silver.

nothing ever happens

>>52827111
repeating digits observed
What did you get, fren?

>>52827122
>nothing ever happens
You say that now, but just wait a couple weeks.

>>52827080
>(((VENEZUELAN FINANCIAL COLLAPSE)))
>TWO MORE WEEKS

>>52827111
>digits
>111 for first gold
This is only the beginning...

>>52827080
Realistically, where are we going from here guys?
It seems our only hope is BRICS nations breaking away from the West and instituting their own competing currency backed by PM's. Our handlers won't relinquish their power unless it's taken from them.

>>52827173
Nice glowie post

What month will Comex break during next year?
I'm betting on March

>>52827118
Basedutentag

How much Silver for women like these?

>>52827080
I hope that, if anything, prices per ounce just climb and it isn't a case of having to pay with PMs. I don't want to deal with people sucking up because I have a stack.

>>52827277
If spot moons. I'll some some PMS for a tidy sum of profits. and promptly use that fiat paper to spend on buying land, property, and real estate

>>52827338
This.

If spot moons fast enough it can btfo the ponyfuckers

So far I have sone 2023 britts that I got off JM's sale.
Is it a good strategy to just pay premiums on sovereign coins or should I be buying junk silver, rounds, bullions as cheap as I can get them?

I know silver is silver but like in OP post isn't it alot easier to liquidate security feature coins than junk?

>the thrill of buying pmgs are going away

>>52827374
Can I interest you in numismatic booba quarter? Only $250 and she can be yours.

>>52827404
>404 Pic not found

>>52827215
>german silver

>>52827255
Why would you want such an evil succubus?

>>52827338
It would be nice to be more prepared for potential (natural) disasters.

>>52827173
PMs have never depended on any particular historical event to give them value in the long run.
And I don't have "handlers", so speak for yourself on that shit. It's really disgusting and cowardly.

>>52827132
A king Leopold II. I like it a lot. I need moar.
>>52827118
>sei
I have never seen Gott mit uns with sei. What's that about?

>>52827373
Silver bullion and coins are easy to liquidate. Try it and see.

>>52827370
It will have to double in 3 days, and even then Snowpity Inc has 76k to make 1275 coins. 59 dollars each with zero overhead cost because they are a non-profit. And everyday closer to the middle of the month is a day shorter for it to moon past $55. But, I guess anything is possible, so you never know. ^:)

>>52827466
I'd literally give most things I own to have that, anon

We got some tampage happening!

>>52827496
God is with us.
It's a German "sweetheart pendant" that German soldiers used to give their ladies before they went off to fight in WWI.

>>52827558
>>52827466
Can you imagine having a loving wife and family of 10 kids, 30 grandkids and with her for the rest of your life? And at the end
when you both die together in each other arms in your 90s, she dies knowing this secret.

That fucking bitch!

crypto nerds will seethe

>>52827631
Heartless whores. Remember the good ol' days when women just wanted dick? Now it's all babies and happy marriages. I hate holes so fucking much. They can't have my silber!

>>52827255
>things get so bad you need to use your silver
>getting your wife pregnant
I dunno man. All it takes is one slip-up for someone to turn her, the little one or both of them into bargaining chips for your PMs. Better off waiting until things stabilize and you can sell part of your horde for the new fiat (while resuming stacking).

>>52827603
Too late. Cheapies never ever again. Only moon from here lads.

Soon

>>52827143
I do get sold fake shit, for example >>52817286 that's a kilo of who knows what ground into the shape of quartz points. but I'm only out $25, which I could contest if I wanted but it's not enough for me to bother. most companies give me a mix of fake and genuine, so I still have to sample what I want in larger amounts first anyway. those opals are good and so are the smokies and fluorite octahedrons and a few other things, so I know that supplier probably won't screw me over on the same exact product if I order larger. order too large and you risk an exit scam, it's fucking china. I've never spent more than $3k on an order and I haven't been screwed over on a large one, though one of them was shorted by about 10%. instead of going to a different supplier I ordered again from the same and shook them over the missing 10% figuring they would give it over and the next order was only 5% shorted. welcome to dealing with chinese. about 80% of my experience has been good and that's enough to make good money.

>>52827196
Wife material.

>>52827196
May
28th

>>52827781
Anon.. that's a man.

>still no images of Silvertowne's new rounds
I think something's going to happen this month after all

>>52827833
>>52827781
>>52827724
>>52827713
I think you all found your answer.

Not the Apu poster though, he was just collateral damage in the links

>>52827864
>Silvertowne's new rounds
I've not heard of this before
what is known about them so far?

>>52827173
Russia and Saudi Arabia are considering trading gold for oil instead of US dollars. It will basically kill the petro-dollar. Gold and silver will be considered money again.

>>52827080
>this is the future that gold and silver bugs want

>>52827889
I just want to see what the peace hope love angel round looks like. I thought it might be a re-release from a previous year but research brings up no results about that.

Hey guys i found this cool vendor on eBay and i ordered 5 random rounds and got this cool little guy with them
One ounce and it’s gold plated on top
Just thought I’d share, their prices aren’t bad either on their site. https://bullionexchanges.com/buy-silver/coins/1-oz-silver-coins

>>52827603
cool but i highly doubt we'll ever see sub $20 cheapies again
it is ogre, frens

>>52827255
wmn r evil

Do you guys ever see nice variety at the LCS? I guess I don't go too frequently, but I do see a lot of interesting things beyond Morgans and ASEs. I wish they'd get more coins over rounds.

>>52828178
my LCS is full of "variety". i.e., mostly ancient coins that are all priced $1000+. count your blessings, young man.

>>52828055
Becoming a coin collector would be fun. Right now I just snag some more expensive rounds here and there if there's room leftover in my monthly budget.

>>52828178
Closest coin shop to me is mostly stocked with US currency, and a panda, a monarch, or a Krug here or there as far as silver goes. Pretty disappointed. The only gold I remember them having were these half or quarter gram rounds that I couldn't even get a good look at because they'd already been sold. Besides that, all the pawnshops nearby have gold pesos, gold Krugs, and Morgans with massive markups. I mostly stick to buying online. There was a pawnshop I visited going through Oklahoma that had a good selection, picked up a couple RMs and a Swiss franc. Just depends on where you're at.

>>52827080
How does it feel that the average Venezuelan has more gold than almost everybody reading this post?

>>52828397
Feels bad. I had money, I just didn't know about any this line of reasoning until a month ago.

Are there any good videos that explain in a retard friendly way the concept of how money works? Specifically this:
So when people say the value of the dollar is decreasing. A dollar is a dollar, why would it change? (This is asked in a stupid way, I sorta understand but not really)

And how the price of silver coin varies constantly, despite it being the same silver coin. Also how different designs can change the value of it.

I understand it is a market thing, but I don't REALLY understand. It's such a basic concept that I really need to understand it. I haven't found anything that explains it in a way that really clicks with my brain.

>>52828481
https://youtu.be/DyV0OfU3-FU

>>52828443
...he's on the loose

>>52828502
Thanks for this. Almost a decade old, wow.

>>52827631
>Dying old in someone's arms
Fuck that, ima bleed out over my stack like a pirate

>>52828543
Watch every episode, it is exactly what you are looking for fren.

>>52827496
neat, didnt know there were ian mccollum coins

>>52827196
Literally impossible to predict, as (((they))) managed to not bleed a single oz from registered since October. Now most (probably north of 95%) deliveries are settled OTC between participants to not disturb the numbers, as the banksters noticed a lot of attention was drawn by the public on their vaults' reserves.

By muddying the waters they are hoping for ppl to get bored eventually. That's a bold bet, as most stackers are here to play the long game. What we need is a banksters' war. For example if one of the participants (almost all of them being big banks) decide to go rogue and refuse to settle OTC and require on-the-book deliveries from registered vaults, we could see some movements.

But alas, we know all banks are owned by the same rabbis, so this is quite unlikely to happen. The other option would be for the CFTC and SEC to do their fucking job for once, and prosecute them all for manipulation and conspiracy, but i can't think of a single entity more corrupt than them (and i've instutions in mind where corruption is basically 99% of their business), so once again, not very optimistic.

But in a sense, comex don't have to break for the price to go up, because something changed on a fundamental level with the PMs market : ppl don't trust paper anymore, they want the real deal in their hand. And no matter how much IOUs the banks swing back and forth, at some point it have to end in our paws.

>>52827255
Children are the most precious thing you can have under your roof

>>52827504
So should I be stacking sovereigns bullions or rounds?

Also it's RIP in pepperoni on egay france for silver stuff. I spent literally hours upon hours trying to scope some silver scrap; and out of approx 100 auctions, not a single one ended below 19-20€/oz.
And it's x10 worse for .999 bars/coins, it's selling for minimum 30-35€/oz. Which i find ridiculous considering even the LCS are less expensive (27-30€/oz for the cheaper end of the spectrum).

Pic related, recently ended auctions on ebay. And i took the cheapest ones. Almost tempted to sell few coins for 35€ a pop and wait for cheapies to slurp them back again at my LCS.

>>52827111
checked, my next purchase will be gold

>adore compass-themed round
>but coins are also important
it's a vain kind of pain

Everytime I walk into the store it's full of old rich people, are there any fellow poor stackers?

>>52828367
There’s this pawn shop near me that has a bucket of “culls” in the back that i can buy for 28 a Morgan or peace dollar
Not a bad deal I’ve got some good years out of that. I also got a silver Eagle for 28 once in there. Idk if it was a mixup or something
Also got a $6 Franklin proof half there once
They don’t have things like that often though

>>52829025
I can only shell out 10K at most, which is barely over 200 troy ounces of silver

>>52828397
My next buy is a shotgun To protect my silber with
Then I’ll focus on gold

>>52829025
Me. I'm way below the poverty line due to total fuck-this-shit-i'm-outism post scamdemic. But if i learned something over time, is that it's not about how much you make, but rather how little you can spend.
I still manage to grow my stack (granted, not by much) even though most US hobos probably earn x2-x3 as much as i do by just doing some panhandling.
But contrary to them, i don't spend a penny in booze, meth and street food. My last restaurant was in 2019. And it was a pizza.

>>52828502
Hey thanks for this fren
We love us some education

Has anybody here ever gone through the process of getting their coins graded by PCGS or NGC?
What's the best way to go about doing so and is there any sort of technique to getting the grades that you want on your coins?

for me, it's .900-.916 fine

>>52829264
for me, its dingleberries

>>52829253
Generally you need to have a membership. Coin shops will often have a membership and you can send them off to get graded through them.
Turn around varies. Rates vary. The website will outline the variations. It costs more to get more valuable coins graded, evem if you think they are more valuable and they turn out not to be.
I think NGC has different rates for coins pre-1964. It's been a while since I checked.

>>52827196
>>52828635
haven't visited /pmg/ for many months now because I don't have much extra stacking money these days. Seems like a lot of the cool stuff we talked about over the years still hasn't happened, goldbros... Cheapies aren't doing much for me when I don't have spare cash to pick up anymore
Not like my generic stocks allocations have done any better this year desu

any tips on good books on gold, economy? my own suggestions: the big reset, history of central banking and the enslavement of mankind

>>52827138
> but just wait a couple weeks.
You say that now, and you will keep saying that in a couple of weeks.

>>52827733
SOON.
>TFW ordered a few American Prospectors to go with it
>TFW USPS delivered me an empty cardboard sleeve
>Still waiting for the store to send out a new order

>>52829126
Nigger how low skill do you have to be
I’m 22 and make $34 an hour sitting on my ass and all i do is make sure machines keep running. If they break i fix them, and it’s easy shit. I see 60 year old line workers and stuff (granted they do it probably for the health benefits) and it just makes me wonder how you ended up there

>>52830141
The 60 year old line workers never had to think about what they were doing when they were in their 20s so they stayed on autopilot their entire lives.

I finally made it to the coinvivor tier. Will probably stop stacking for now. Feels good.

Frens my brother is asking me if its a good idea to sink $100,000 into bitcoin right now think it will be worth millions in 5 years.
I've told him it's not a good idea to buy bitcoin right now, and that he should buy gold and silver.
He just doesn't think it will ever make him enough money to be rich.
Don't judge him too harshly please, he's a hard normie worker, with 3 kids, just wants to be rich I guess, like us all.
I live abroad but I'm going home for Christmas, I'll have to try and convince him gold and silver is the way.

>>52830329
Could split it. Just fully alert him to all the ways bitcoin can fail him or suddenly get pulled out from under him. If anything, impress upon him the PMs as a reserve of another kind.

remember to research your local wealth! The land can be rich and you can access it!

>>52830329
Honestly? Fuck it, he's got enough money to burn and Bitcoin may get another pump. Convince him to get some (like, at least 50k) actual gold to go with his digital gold though; bet he wouldn't be too hard to convince to buy silver either, just don't let him sell the metal if line no go up.

>>52830378
I've been on track to do just that since I have the time with my work hours

It seems the LME isn't going to do shit over the their nickel scandal, they're just going to let the thing roll on and hope for everyone to forget about it.

>>52830343
>>52830384
True, could always do a 50/50 or something along those lines.
I guess it's not exactly great giving advice to family either incase I don't give the correct advice and it goes tits up. But he clearly wants to invest into something since he's always asking.

>>52830433
Checked. I guess the best angle is to just educate him about the pros and cons of both and let him decide.
Also depending on where he lives, talk to him about being prepared to bug-in or bug-out even for just a month.
Food, water collection/filtration, portable power, etc. See if where he lives is prone to earthquakes or a fault zone where, if one does happen, it could be bad.
With that much money it's smarter to be prepared just in case. Would be a shame to die to something that could've been prepared for, while he was waiting for any kind of investment to pay off.
I'd love not to think about the stuff myself. Maybe where he lives it's really not going to be a concern. Anyway think about it.

>>52830273
Congrats! I'd probably be a salamander if platinum were included

>>52830423
>Because the Chinese government only allows domestic companies to trade it
I can practically hear Pooh vibrating in anticipation. The dominoes keep lining up for the Chinks.

>>52830433
True, giving advice that doesn't pay off to family could bite you. I guess you can always just make a case for metal and leave it as an alternative.

>>52830141
Pretty simple : i don't want to be a wagie anymore, and i was ready to sacrifice my standards of living to achieve this goal.
It has nothing to do with skills, idk how you ended up with this conclusion. Maybe you are assuming i'm currently employed? Because i'm not, thus the limited capital availible.

>>52830329
>good idea to sink $100,000 into bitcoin right now
I guess some people never learn lol. And if he's a normie, i guess he have no clue about how to cold wallet and metamask? He's the kind of goy to let it all on coinbase to then patiently wait to get rugpulled?

Tell him the free QE monies era is over. Tell him the BRICS are in war against the USD, and they want to tame (((speculative finance))) and revalue hard assets. Tell him the overlords are preparing the bail-in of big banks with HIS money. Tell him now is not the time to play casino with his savings when he have a family who count on him to be the provider. Tell him CBDCs are coming and the only way to escape this dystopia where you can see all your bank accounts seized for a bad tweet posted a decade ago is to own untraceable assets not tied to internet. Tell him silver is the most undervalued commodity on earth and among the most important material for the future of mankind. Then show him this pic.

>>52830329
Rant about the comex

>>52830329
>Frens my brother is asking me if its a good idea to sink $100,000 into bitcoin right now think it will be worth millions in 5 years.

No not right now, it still has a change of a significant downturn and if he really want to get into crypto he should get some ETH too and I agree what >>52830674 says, cold storage only as the exchange right are a dangerous place to put your money in. Also tell him to diversify, don't sink in the $100k into crypto as hit has never endured real recession, buy silver, buy gold

>>52830329
10k silver, 1 oz of gold for each family member in case they need to buy their way out of something in a bad shtf situation. Else than that let him fuck with bitcoin sometime next month or so. Have a nice time with him, and get him to do only 10-100 oz silver bars, no need for rounds or 1 oz for him.

>>52830329
>make him enough money to be rich.
this is the whole problem with peoples thinking rn.
everybody literally wants to get extremely wealthy by doing literally nothing.
these kind of people deserve do lose everything and end up with nothing.
its literally as bad as an anime character like Jahy or Futaba Anzu
"how can I get rich by doing no work?"

>>52830423
>and hope for everyone to forget about it.
Wish them good luck with this one. Trust is gone, 2/3rd of the nickel traders left the LME platform out of disgust and fear. Those customers are lost forever.

What's interesting about this fiasco is how the contagion slowly spread to others high-leveraged commodities traded on the LME. Nickel is far from being the most leveraged commodity, but since the market is so tiny, and thus lack hedging mechanisms, it was the first to implode.
The traders knew this was the canary in the coal mine, and sooner or later, each overleveraged metal will end up facing the same scenario. So they quietly started to leave during the summer, seeking for greener pastures where hopefully giga-rabbis wont retroactively cancel your trades to save their house of card.

You know the situation is critical when british traders prefer to exchange on the Shanghai exchange rather than London lol. This is where extreme corruption of all our institutions leads to. Eventually people flee.

The movement of precious metals prices are no longer coupled to crypto prices. Metals are recovering very well while crypto continues to dump. The commodities super cycle and movement into real tangible assets instead of digital ponzi schemes has begun.

>>52830876
I'm super bummed, at the opening silver started to crash so i thought we could get some cheapies today. But it went back up right after that..

DO YOUR FUCKING JOB RABBI RABBINOVITZ. WHERE ARE MY CHEAPS'??

>>52830876
>>52830905
The spot price for silver is near to the level it was when Russia invaded Ukraine. Hard to say if it will go down again in the next few months, but the trend says otherwise. £19 and $23 could be the new average for 2023.

>>52827080
Anyone here got contacts within UK customs? These coins are gifts for Christmas... I hate my life.

>>52830378
i live in pennsylvania. maybe i can pan for coal

>>52830876
ftx happened, thats why people are cold on crypto

>>52831104
Monero is still the one to watch (and hold)

>>52830932
>gbp
Use USD, silver's chart looks vastly different depending on the currency.

>>52831111
Checked

>>52831111
I use GBP because it's my currency as well as other regulars here.

>>52831126
My currency is teabags, fellow bong

>>52828661
How much do they cost?

>>52831161
Everything

>>52831054
Fucking thieves... Expect to be raped by not only custom fees, but also by the royal mail for "paperwork fees" (ie simply beeping the fucking parcel). Last time i received something from GB, it has 20 bux of declared value within, and i had to pay 22 bux in various fees (4€ of customs, 16€ of purely invented fees from the post office). I said fuck it, refused the parcel and it was sent back to the seller. It sucks for him, but i can't accept this racket.
It's just EU vs GB politikikes trying to soft-boycott each other over the brexit, as some kafkaian retribution, but in the end it's always the pleb who pay for their petty game.

>>52831168
>It's just EU vs GB politikikes trying to soft-boycott each other over the brexit, as some kafkaian retribution

Man I really hope the Reform Party gets in and we sort out no import taxes across the Anglosphere countries, or even the Commonwealth. That would literally fuck the EU project hard, or even collapse it as we would be in the position to offer them to join the British Union.

>>52831126
What i'm trying to say is we need a fix benchmark itt to see the performance of PMs, and since 90% of the anons are americans, it's normal we use their standard.
The pound have been extremely volatile (in a shitty way) this year. For you and me (€) it looks like silver did a +15%, but in USD term it barely moved.
But in a sense, it's like we held our savings in dollars, thus avoided a 15% haircut compared to anybody else locally, which is pretty comfy. But it's pretty grim for the outcome of our currencies, even short term. We are dying bongbro. Not sure we have long left before our monies go to the shitter.

>>52831122
checked back fren

>>52827080
i know you are using the OP pic as a way to shill gold, but consider
the gold in venzuela only has value cuz the world economy which gives value to gold is still standing, if civilization collapses it wont be the same

>>52831252
Even if civilization collapsed, individuals will still value gold, probably more than ever since government approved standardized medium of exchanges (currencies) would be gone, so your point is moot.

>>52831168
Thanks for the prep talk anon
>>52831218
>Reform Party
For me it's Patriotic Alternative

>>52831111
>>52831088
>>52830844
>>52830433
>>52829377
Checked and wagmi.

>>52831252
No that is wrong, like >>52831276 said gold has intrinsic value and people will still value it after civilization collapses, ofcourse water food etc. are more important but assume people get those covered soon after SHTF. Gold can does not decay, stays shiny (people like shiny things because it reminds of water) and can be used to build advanced electronics and medicine

>>52831299
I love gold too but silver has antibacterial properties and will be sought by those of us who know this fact in a SHTF scenario

>>52831309
How do I split my kilo bars in the post-grid apocalypse?

>>52831354
Don't
Use them for tanks of water (and as weapons)

>>52831168
>>52831054
IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING GET THE FUCK IN HERE ANONS

>>52831309
>I love gold too but silver has antibacterial properties and will be sought by those of us who know this fact in a SHTF scenario
That is certainly true, people that hate silver are fucking stupid

>>52831374
But I’d lose precious electrons.

>>52831442
Do we need em?

>>52830273
>Stacklet tier
>Stacked as soon as it came to my attention, never sold, took it seriously
Welp, guess I'm gonna be a highway man, cause fuck being mid

Its over for crypto nerds.

>>52831662
Has it only just begun? I don't see many rad faces on the catalog page.

>>52831731
Yanks are asleep. I hope it turns out alright for the crypto bros.

Wake up yanks, will I get cheapies on 15th Dec? Please tell yes.

>>52831662
>>52831731
>>52831739
it's fake sadly

>>52831783
That's good to hear.

>>52828718
It depends on your budget. (It also might depend on tax issues which vary depending on your location). If you are on a limited budget, get the cheapest silver you can find FROM RELIABLE SOURCES!. Forget about liquidity and security features and SHTF scenarios. People have been sorting real silver from fake silver for a VERY long time with far more primitive tools than we have now. Your job is to stack as many ounces as possible for the least money.

If you have more breathing room in your budget, buy things you like. You might be interested in the artistry of the design, the history, the nationality, the symbolism, etc. I like to have some diversity but you can just find one item you like and go all in on it.

>>52829596
The first 200 pages of picrel is an excellent history of gold as money. The rest of the book is outdated info on mining stocks.

>>52830329
Tell him to have a safety net of gold and other than that tell him you do not give advice on putting money into gambling schemes.

>>52831252
Gold has been valuable for most of humanity for most of history, through economic prosperity and collapse. Gold has been money ever since money was invented for reasons that relate to how money functions - fungibility, protability, scarcity, durability, storability, etc.

Gold is the LEAST likely store of wealth to be confiscated, taxed, or lose its value in a serious economic crisis.

>>52827080
>>52827111
gold is going to crash you dumbasses. Study some macro economics, retards.

>>52832081
I really hope you are right desu. I want my cheapies.

>>52832081
Thank you for your concern. I know you have our interest at heart. Usually people charge for this kind of insightful investing advice, but here you are giving it out for free. I hope anons will listen to you and realize that the three thousand year run of PMs as a store of wealth is over and that now is the time to go all in on stocks, crypto, and real estate.

when people talk about gold silver rario in history i get confused as to whether they are talking about price, or availability of physical ounces, and sometimes i think they dont even know either. and then they wax poetic about how it was 15 to 1 for hundreds of years, didnt the govt codify the ratio into law? and the wild discrepencies only started after we went ofd bimetallic standard

>>52832107
If you bought at the end of the bull run in 2011, you are still down on gold.... If you believe the FED will pivot (it won't), gold will go up, but you would gain way more buying stocks. You will lose less buying gold than buying stocks, congrats.

>>52831823
>tfw someone actually took my pic to post with
I am the one the only real Saori anon here

>>52831406
man sauce on that book? sounds really interesting

>>52832229
I'm not the real one, I really like your picture, my pictures suck ass and I don't have animu figurines.

>>52832255
checked, I would also like the know found the pic here actually

>>52832224
So your argument consists of cherry-picking a price off a gold chart, declaring a loss, and then betting on a debt-dependent, government-manipulated paper casino? Somebody is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

>>52832340
Yes, I believe the FED will try to save the Dollar from hyperinflation at all costs.

>>52832340
buying gold is betting on total societal collapse. In which case you're better of "investing" in guns and grains.

>>52832356
>>52832376
>>52832224

>>52832280
looks like I gained a fan.
I was recently thinking about doing an updated picture to post with. Though I have been busy due to work.

>>52832437
>looks like I gained a fan.
Yep.
>I was recently thinking about doing an updated picture to post with. Though I have been busy due to work.
I'll wait for the new pics anon.

>>52831493
Man I love karl, and loath ricky and steve.

>>52832356
they can try
but at this point, it's impossible to stop

>>52832518
I think I only made into one of the /pmg/ collages.
pic related
Was looking forward into making it into the new one that was going to be made for this year.
wanted to show some progress made compared to last time.

>>52832426
already down another 0,1% since I made my posts

>>52832376
>you can't buy all of these things

>>52832780

>>52832081
>>52832224
>>52832356
>>52832376
>all the same retarded shit people were saying before the past two major crises were done unfolding
love to watch midwits get blown the fuck out. love it. lovin' it every day of the week, month after month, year after year, decade after decade. that's three times.

>>52832081
Nobody cares about your opinion, they just have to look at charts to find out other commodities to store wealth in. Gold is the bankster's favourite commodity, and they do prefer to give people paper rather than gold.

>>52832376
Is that what China and all of the Central Banks in the world are betting on? I doubt it. More likely betting on remonetization of gold when the USD eats it.

>>52832376
>buying gold is betting on total societal collapse
No, just financial. Societal collapse will be nuclear war mutual destruction scenario.

>>52832750
Well, fuck me. I made it into the compilation! Under /k/, no less.
If anyone is doing a new one, you must include prospecting!

>>52827781
with fingers like that?
No way. Bitch does no work.

proverbs 31:13, schwartz.

>>52828661
>Children are the most precious thing you can have under your roof
What if they are under your barn?

>>52832856
gold already had a 750% move since april 2002. nice double top too. You're too late

>>52832962
meant to tag >>52832789

>>52831988
checked.
200 pages, eh? How long is the fuggen book?

The guy on the Krugerrand looks like Xi the chinese leader wearing a fake beard disguise. How do I profit from this?

>>52828213
don't do it, anon!!
Just stack.
Collecting gets expensive and your interests wander, and God forbid, if you ever have to sell, you you cannot choose the circumstances, you're probably gonna loose your ass.

If you must "collect", I suggest you start with your nation's old silver coins exclusively.

>>52830329
>Frens my brother is asking me if its a good idea to sink $100,000 into bitcoin right now think it will be worth millions in 5 years.
>I've told him it's not a good idea to buy bitcoin right now, and that he should buy gold and silver.
He should be DCAing into Bitcoin gold, and TQQQ, in addition to just enough in a normie IRA/401K to not be on the street when you're old

The best investment strategy is to have redundancy in case your "brilliant ideas" turn out to be fucking retarded

>>52832789
Interesting chart. Thanks for posting.

>>52827196
That's a hand

>>52832987
Actually, the history of gold section is 250 pages. Book total is 574. Includes about 20 pages of interesting historical photos relating to gold mining and money. It is really worth the read.

>>52832987
If you want something a little less lengthy, the history section in this book is also excellent and only 117 pages. Many interesting photos relating to gold coins. This book was written at a time when gold was still illegal to hold for proles in the USA and so focused on using the numismatic exception to invest in gold.

How do you all sleep at night knowing your stupid coins were mined by children with guns to their head, who's mothers were raped and fathers murdered by the cartels who own the mines?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvi1RAKF0sI

>>52833451
kinda based desu

>>52832224
You don't understand why we buy gold or what the nature of this investment is. There's a reason why dragons hoard gold and not stock certificates.

>>52833451
>How do you all sleep
On top of a pile of gold, furiously masturbating to hentai.

>>52833451
Whatever horrors might be associated with gold mining, they are as nothing compared to the unimaginable horrors that have been, and continue to be, perpetrated in service of, and funded by, the global fiat banking system that we fervently hope to see ended. Wake up, fool. PMs are by far the most moral monetary system. That's why evil, violent men hate them.

>>52833483
Yup

>>52831252
Anon, gold became a store of value when were still in the neolithic i.e stone age and has endured mutliple civilizational collapses all over the globe.

>>52833483
>You don't understand why we hoard gold and not stock certificates.
true. my best guess is autism.

>>52833593
Incredibly based desu. Evil souls will never grasp the concept of sound money.

>decide to get rich of stocks
>buys gold futures
Truly a magnificent mind.

>>52833624
Yes, and China and most of the Central Banks of the world share our autism. Funny how the fuds can never respond to this fact.

>>52833686
guess Indian house wives share that autism too

https://www.financialexpress.com/market/commodities/shining-bright-indias-household-gold-reserves-touches-25k-tonne-over-40-of-gdp/1583058/

Treasure hunt

>>52832176
>didnt the govt codify the ratio into law?
Yes.
To me the only two that matter are the AISC ratio (1:60) and the extraction ratio (1:8). True valuation is somewhere between those two.

>>52833726
Keep me posted

>>52833726
Jeez, how long does it takes to check a box like this?

>>52833624
>pictured, two men who privately hoard gold
>probably because they're autistic or something

>>52833726
Treasure hunt?
I bet it's in the box.

>>52833835
>two men who privately hoard gold
libel

>>52833717
I think it will be funny if Indian housewives are suddenly all driving Lambos after remonetization of gold.

>>52833624
>true. my best guess is autism.
The reason for central banks is it allows the regional banks more ability to inflate. On the gold standard and before the central bank was created, bank runs were devastating and they were localized to individuals and the last man in line got burned. Banks today also run out of capital, but instead of shifting losses to the last in line, we all collectively eat the losses as they can be monetized and spread out via dollar dilution. As we sit on a massive pile of bogus IOUs that can never be repaid, we have a situation to where we are all collectively broke as our insurance companies are under capitalized, our pensions own bogus IOUs. There is a severe shortage of real capital as we are all pretending that $46TN of bonds are actual valid claims. A massive collapse is all but a guarantee at this point, regardless of the timeframe. There is no accounting/finance trick to conjure up free wealth. All we can do is spread out the losses, which is why we are living under 10%+ inflation right now. Those who make a B-Line for the real capital will be those who profit handsomely. The paper-ponzi is stalling out, and it retrospect it was nothing but a wealth extraction scheme. The whole system is trying to maintain itself, so there is still time to make your exit while you still can.

>>52832356
There's trillions in dollar denominated debt. If anything, it will strengthen.

>>52833483
comfy picrel

>>52833593
im violent but i wouldnt consider myself evil

>>52833922
Checked, but in that case they wouldn't be enough gold going around right? So it will create other problems

>>52833995
All men worth talking about are dangerous. Women in particular have no idea how fine the separation is in a man between civilized behavior and savagery. But being potentially dangerous is not the same as being violent in my vocabulary. A violent man chooses violence preferentially as an MO. Most men, in particular those who are capable of inflicting tremendous damage, choose peace if they can.

>>52834107
Sometimes I wonder if I will trade my acog (ta31rco) for some gold when I'm old. That's the good ending.

>>52834093
Gold must be spent in order to purchase goods and services and to invest in businesses. You can't just keep it in a room in bags like Scrooge McDuck. No matter how much you have, it will be spent into circulation. Fiat, on the other hand, pours out of an endless fountain owned by some elite bankers. They can replenish whatever they spend and much of what they spend can vanish at any time.

>>52833796
Halfway through. Nothing yet.

>>52833801
20-30 minutes maybe. Just edge check.

>>52833851
I once pulled a half dollar sized 'good luck' token from a roll. No gold elephants, yet.

Got my forge in.. Time to melt shit. I have about 400 old candy bar phones, gonna take all the plastic off and melt the PCB. If the interweb is right about 100 phones should equal 2-3 grams of Au.

>>52832945
I think someone did a new one around mid 2022. I wanted a updated picture in it, sadly mine didnt make it in.

>>52827080
how retarded would it be to buy pic related.

>>52834195
nice forge but gold recovery from cellphones is a pajeet slum tier waste of time

>>52834297
Are you a cartel member? If not, pass on this.

>>52834297
>buy overpriced money clip
>the hold fiat

Bruh

>>52834349
kek. i just think it would be cool to flex on a summer day when the sun is shining and you're out for lunch with people you want to impress.

>>52834366
it's canadian dollars. It's only 2x spot which isn't that bad for something that has diamonds and good finishing.

>>52834369
With all due respect, if someone I knew pulled that out of their pocket, I'd have to stifle a laugh. Price/value is irrelevant-it's just hideous and classless.

>>52834369
I rarely think about what other people think about me. But selling shiny things to people who do, seems to be easy money...
>2x spot

>>52834425
I have zero interest in being classy.

>>52834388
Checked
>It's only 2x spot
that goes against my instincts as a stacker that want to get the most grams cheapest

>>52834479
yeah, but some things you want to just enjoy. I truly think it is the pinnacle of money clips and a better one could never be found.

>>52834297
Is 10k gold ever even worth it (outside of a wild deal)?

My last pickup. Trying to decide between Pamp and Perth mint bars next. So many options.

>>52834519
depends how it looks in person. the shop is local and i can go check it out first. i'm generally not a huge fan of 10k because it's too red for my taste. the pictures are too yellow for 10k so i have a worry it is 10k plated over to look higher carat which is done with lots of 10k chains. they get plated over to look more yellow to make them easier to sell.

>>52834456
In that case, go hog wild. Buy it and post pics.

>>52834193
$500 of zinc. Womp womp.

>>52834513
Well go for it fren

>>52834571
heh. there's three that I want but I only have the cash on hand for one at the moment. pic related also looks pretty cool.

>>52833578

>>52827255
1kg after the collapse

>>52830674
>>52830739
>>52830785
>>52830792
>>52830823
>>52833246
Thank you for the replies.
I will try and convince him it's best for him and his family's future right now to invest in hardassets like gold and silver. I such as a 100/1 silver gold ratio?
I'm sure he could dump a little into crypto, just to make himself happy.
By the way to the anon who said everyone wants to be rich with no effort, as much as my brother pisses me off, he has worked his ass off since he was 16 in the construction industry and started his own business. He might not deserve to win the crypto lottery, but who does? The way governments fuck over the middleclass now its not exactly easy to make it through just hard work anymore.
Thanks again anons

>buy ASE for $40
>check the coin
>only worth $1
>already down 97% on my investment

>>52834896

Anons, cheapies soon.

>>52834994
14 December right?

>>52835010
Yeah, waiting for the rate hike. Planning for 3 kilos.

>>52835048
when nothing happens, know it all anons will claim the rate hike was "already baked in". never fails

>>52833451
The device you used to write that post was made with cheap labor in China and works thanks to minerals extracted from the same mines in Africa. Hypocrite

>>52833483
At first i thought that was an octopus.

>>52835066
>"already baked in"
Well it could be actually

>>52835066
It'll probably jump like last time

How will I buy food with gold once everything crashes?

>>52833018
Yeah, true enough. I said something about leftover budget, but I'm new so I've only had so much in the way of leftover money. It'll add up if I keep doing it, so I can't.

>>52835364
you can probably use nail clippers to clip off a little peice of a coin

>>52832176
Thw GSR is simply how many ounces of silver to equak the valur of a single ounce of gold.

As you notes, the 15:1 ratio was set by law. In ancient egypt the ratio was 1:1. In ancieny Rome it was 4:1. In the US it was 15:1 at the founding then congress revised it to 16:1 a few years later.

Bimetalism was abandoned because it was impossible to maintain the ratio and not end up with either a glut of gold or silver depending on which was more abundant.

Peope talk about the gold rush but forget that at one point the US had so much silver we started making trade dollars out of silver thar could only be spent over seas and take advantage in arbitrage.

The tldr is dont pay attention to the 15 to 1 ratio its not reflective of silver and gold demamd as it exists today.

Post bretton woods anytime silver geys under 60 its relatively expensive compared to gold.

>>52832630
Based

>A voluntary coporate action has been submitted for your frozen Russian stock, by JP Morgan.

>You can exchange your ADRs, for ordinary Russian stocks.

>Please note, your brokerage cannot guarantee delivery of these ADRs, or delivery of ordinary shares.

>Please note, you must have a Russian brokerage to receive these ordinary shares.

>Please note, per Russian law, only Russian citizen may participate in the sale of ordinary shares.

>Please note, US sanctions still apply, and you may not buy, sell, or transact with Russian equities.

At least I still have my PMs...

Anon with the yotsuba coin with the serial # 428 PM me. I will trade you.

>>52834513
Wrong. My Dad carried this money clip everyday of his adult life and wore that Morgan down from AU to slick with his hard-working hands. Picrel is the pinnacle of money clips.

>>52835364
If you didn't bother to stack anything smaller, you trade gold for silver (it's called making change) and use the silver to buy food. It's a relatively new innovation - only three thousand years old now.

>>52835364
Either:
1) gold flakes
2) or you know, get some junk silver to barter

>>52834915
Thats pretty funny do you mind if I save it

Mail just came
>mail just came
Mail just came
>mail just came
5oz state quarter oh fuck yes

>>52836475
I posted a pic of the 5oz and said
“Damn is this what they meant by inflation”
My humor is lame

>>52836475
>5oz state quarter oh fuck yes
Showing wrong side.

>>52836540
Here you go McNegro

>>52832081
Gold cannot crash, because it's priced in American $ that cannot keep its value and keep losing 10% per year!

>>52835915
Karl seems like the kind of guy that would invest in PMs, and ricky and steve would give him endless shit about it while investing in crypto at its peak and losing all thier money. Then after finally losing it all they will pitch PMs and deny Karl ever had anything to do with them.

pmg slow today..

>>52833891
Only if it's false.
Show me your vault, Warren.

>>52836681
USD is up this year

Mailman came!
And I'm very sorry, but I gotta post this here meme.

>>52836875
but damn, that subtle off black color!
That embossing!

>>52836915
Seriously! It's embossed!

>>52836949
Also, very hard to open. Had to use some tools to slide it open.

>>52836971
The tasteful thickness of it.
Oh my god, it even has certificate!

>>52836647
Mucho bettero.

>>52837018
thick.

>>52834297
Whatever makes you happy. Personally I'd rather buy something more practical. If I ever saw someone drinking Mountain Dew from this cup and eating tendies off this plate would be the biggest flex of my life.(But they're not microwave or dishwasher safe.)

>>52837018
Oh my god, it even has a hologram!

>>52837124
And speaking of holograms, I'm now also part of Brittania Gang.

>>52837149
Also got me this little birb (kooks where impossible to get).
Gotta say, this thing really is amazing! Guess I gotta get me the kook too, but damn, that thing is nice!
Why's no one talking about the emu here?

>>52837124
That's pretty cool, I'm a fan of kilos

>>52837171
Apparently, I'm very stupid.
>>52837172
Yeah, feels really nice in the hand. I'm afraid I gotta get it a pal, so it won't feel lonely in the safe. Oddly, this was the cheapest kilo I could get, and it's very well made! Who does the minting for Niue?

>>52837286
not a cheap kilo, but a kilo bird is pretty nice.

>>52837124
>>52837149
>holograms
Not really a hologram. It's a lenticular printing.
Still cool.

>>52833451
Euphoric.

If you pay more for gold because it is in coin form with a pretty picture you are dumb. If you want to invest in art buy art. If you want to invest in Gold buy the cheapest gold you can find.
Don't buy NFT gold.

>>52834369
Money doesn't buy taste
>>52834349
This was my exact thought

Should I buy gold plated silver?

Feels like a double whammy, I prefer silver and get some free gold dust with it

>>52837801
What kind of gold do you buy?

>>52837801
And you should always fuck the cheapest whore you can find and eat the cheapest food you can find and drive the cheapest car you can find. Etc. Because aesthetics is for pussies. Think how much you would save if you just neck yourself now.

>>52833451
I only buy african gold

>>52837801
Part of the coinage is it is easily recognizable and difficult to counterfeit. Also generally easier to trade with.

As for the rounds, I just think they're neat

>>52837801
>T. Crass pedestrian

>>52838050
I like junk jewelry. You can also just buy spot gold at most any pawn shop.
Meling down gold scraps and making ones own pure bars isn't hard. Gold melts fast.

>>52838385
Image board retard, post pics of your homemade bars

>>52838385
>gold melts fast
In what? I'd honestly love to cast a few silver bullets for handloads but silver melts at a much higher temp than lead. I think gold is higher even than that.
Not something you can do on a campfire or stove like with lead.

How to turn junk old gold into pure gold
https://youtu.be/37Kn-kIsVu8

How to make a gold bar
https://youtu.be/CNOBLqAs2Uc

>>52827118
seconded

>>52834195
Those double burner furnaces burn through propane at an almost insane rate. Burning pcbs to nothing takes alot - and I mean A LOT - of gas. You'd honestly be better off stripping the silkscreen and insulation layers off with acetone, then soaking the pcbs in a 2:1 mixture of HCL and H2O2 to dissolve anything non-pm. You will burn through more gas than you will recover in pms otherwise.
If you do elect to go the burn method, get a quality respirator. The fumes from the burning pcbs are very toxic. Do you have a welding shield to protect your eyes?

>>52836686
Absolutely
They are pseudo intellectuals, Karl can talk to himself in a room and prove people with both laughter and insight, hee a layman's philosopher

>>52839298
>Prove
Provide
>hee
He's

I am at 120 ounces of silver currently with no gold.
I can fill my jars that are missing bring me up to over 180 ounces or finally buy that ounce of gold.
if gold which one? A Buffalo or Eagle?
Been stacking ASEs so an Eagle?

>>52838522
Just buy a chingchong electric melting furnace on ebay or amazon. They work great.

I REALLY like this Israeli mint coin and nobody here can change my mind
Wish I had the cash for it

>>52838522
>>52839364
It takes 20 mins to melt a kilo of scrap sterling in this one.

>>52839318
Can't go wrong with an eagle

>>52839364
>Just buy a chingchong electric melting furnace on ebay or amazon. They work great.
Guess the Great Leap Forward had some benefits

>>52839318
i like 1/10 oz perth mint coins

>>52839515
If you cant beat them join them.

Over a month waiting on this

>>52839566
It was a Great Leap Forward peasant pig iron joke. Mao wanted Iron production, and what better way to make Iron then using the Noble peasant to make some, like a good communist. So all these peasants are building backyard furnaces to make iron for the great leap forward, and if they don't make the quotas they'd be shot for being a Nationalist sympathizer or whatever. So in a panic these peasants do whatever they can to make those quotas, to include melting there farm equipment for scrap metal. This of course cause a massive famine since they couldn't really farm anymore, the insect population was exploding (Another funny story that) along with all the usual efficiencies of central planning meant that up to 60 million Chinese died of famine. The Iron they did make was shit btw

>>52839697
Like killing all the sparrows etc. Commies are retarded.

Over a month waiting for this

>>52839742
If I were to buy that now direct from the mint via CC, it’d cost 872 USD

>>52839841
I panicked and bought that and a gold wiener day of the last rate hike. I'm not sure stuff is going to dump like it did all year this next fed meeting. I figure if we get 50bp, it pumps, if it's 75, we dump.

>>52839464
>Can't go wrong with an eagle
I was thinking maybe getting two eagles and then after that buffalos.
>>52839564
if I was going to do fractional gold, I would put that money towards buying some silver eagles really.
>>52839863
>50bp
thats what they are planning on doing, then a pause...

>>52833451
Gives me stack more value eh

>>52839908
Consensus is 50, and then the pause, but I think they'll keep on hiking higher until something breaks.

>>52833451
>How do you all sleep at night knowing your stupid coins were mined by children with guns to their head, who's mothers were raped and fathers murdered by the cartels who own the mines?
Pic related.

>>52839963
if they do go higher they will break something.
financial channels opinions are they are going to pivot

>>52839564
Why? Them shits are tiny, and high premium. I bought a gold sovereign last week and that shits tiny too, probably won't buy more. 1oz Krugs only for me and mine.

>>52840348
>financial channels opinions are they are going to pivot

Bank of America economist Michael Gapen anticipates that the Fed will raise interest rates by another 50 bps in December, 50 bps in February and 25 bps in March 2023 to reach a terminal rate range of between 5% and 5.25%.

“We think risks to our revised FOMC rate path continue to lie to the upside and upcoming prints on CPI inflation and the November employment report will weigh heavily on the near-term path for Fed policy,” Gapen says.

In addition, he says a Fed pivot is likely still more than a year away.

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/fed-pivot/

in the time that i was thinking about buying it and trying to figure out tariff, LPM has gone out of stock on reverse proof libertads. i decided i wanted a tiddy gf too late

>>52840715
>reverse proof libertads.
What the fuck even would be the price tag on one of these?

Good morning sirs.

>>52840791
they had them on sale for $2,300 americans. This isnt much more expensive than a regular finish libertad.

>>52840831
Now you've got me wanting a gold one. Not reverse proof though, too rich for my blood.

Ftm baggies, never change.

Nationwide Coins called me today. Maybe I misunderstood what the guy was saying but it sounded like he was trying to sell me a MS70 quarter ounce American eagle for $1950

>>52841044
>quarter ounce
>$1950

I can't into baking. Any bakers out there?

>>52838801
Noob question here, why does the centre one look a different colour from the others? They’re all originals, just more tarnished or dirty than the others?

>>52841288
checked. new threads up. Baker tonight sucks.

NEXT
>>52841007

>>52841007

>>52833451
Says the faggot using a computer

>>52833451
nobody cares, every problem in africa is a direct result from africans themselves.